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sabongero
07-08-2007, 07:03 PM
If you were the writer for the weekly upcoming Spider-Man, what would you write about ? Would you have a four-story arc to encompass the whole month ? Or stand alone issues ?
What aspects of Spider-Man stories would you write and why ?
gorthon616
07-08-2007, 09:27 PM
lol. god i'm actually tempted to just out-right write a spider-man story.
i don't read spider-man (curiously, while i enjoy the character conceptually, i've rarely ever enjoyed his stories... Spidey-Loves-MJ and the early USM are the only ones that I have honestly cared for), so i don't have much to say about what is going on continuity-wise.
honestly, i'd try to move the character along and actually TRY to develop some sort of substantive relationship between MJ and Peter besides the typical caption box at the bottom of the page "Editor's Note: Peter and MJ are madly and truly in love with each other. Seriously."
i would place him in stories for 2 reasons, personal vendetta villains or location villains. i do not like spidey "greatest hero of all time" or "savior of the omniverse." he's just a guy with some skills trying to do the right thing. keep it low-key and quiet but with heart.
rockgrant
07-08-2007, 10:17 PM
honestly, i'd try to move the character along and actually TRY to develop some sort of substantive relationship between MJ and Peter besides the typical caption box at the bottom of the page "Editor's Note: Peter and MJ are madly and truly in love with each other. Seriously."
No clue what you are talking about here. MJ is one of the best written characters in comics. Of course, you don't read Spider-Man, so you wouldn't know that...;)
PunkPoserStyle
07-08-2007, 10:54 PM
I'd pay Matt Fraction to tell me what to do.
:D
sabongero
07-09-2007, 12:06 AM
I'd pay Matt Fraction to tell me what to do.
:D
What would you ask Matt Fraction ? How would he write a story ? Better yet, how do you think Matt would write a story on one of those weekly's ?
paulski
07-09-2007, 02:21 AM
Jeez, some of his classic villains might be a good place to start. I might not have enjoyed PAD's FNSM run much, but at least he made use of the greatest rogues gallery in comics. Same with the SSM writer to some degree.
666andahalf
07-09-2007, 03:17 AM
1: Bring Hobgoblin back.
2: Fix Brock's motivations and set him up to return as Venom
3: Renew the threat of many of Spidey's villains, especially Electro.
4: Create all-new, arch-enemies for Spidey to chew on. As good as the classics are, face it, we need some fresh baddies.
5: Bring Kaine back and set him up to be the one to kill Norman Osborn (when the time is right).
Chris Nowlin
07-09-2007, 03:23 AM
I'd deal with his reaction to learning Aunt May is a skrull. Also his reaction to learning that Norman and the lame, powerless Judas Traveller are Skrulls.
Magneto Rocks
07-09-2007, 03:23 AM
1. Bring Hobgoblin back
2. Kill Eddie Brock, gruesomely and on-panel.
3. Establish Gargan Venom as a proper threat.
4. Bring back the Stacies- Jill and Arthur.
5. Build a supporting cast
6. Give the Daily Bugle staff a more interactive and consistent role in the book.
7. Revamp the Spider Rogue Gallery.
But that's the same, weekly or not.
I'd probably have a very brutal Venom arc up front, then start telling an overarching story arc. SOMEONE is re-arming and resupplying all of spidey's villains. New Vulture armour, new Rhino suit, revamp 'em villain by villain, try to make Spider-Man's rogue gallery more of a threat again. The big test will be making the Rhino into an actual threat again.
Albert
07-09-2007, 03:37 AM
I'd explore the inner workings of the Bugle alot more, maybe even have MJ working there as a fashion columnist. The Bugle has always been my primary interest with the books, and I'd like to see it take and keep center stage. I always thought there was a missed opportunity with Brock and the Bugle as well: what if Spidey and one of his rogues both worked at the same paper, and knew each other's identity? There'd be unbelievable tension, manipulations, and yet one couldn't expose the other without being outed himself.
Oh, and my editor would chew me out for having too many Manwolf stories.:D
Magneto Rocks
07-09-2007, 03:49 AM
Oh, and my editor would chew me out for having too many Manwolf stories.:D
One Manwolf story is too many Manwolf stories!
1) Revisit the clone saga in some form (yeah i said it..)
2) Bring sarah and gabriel stacy back into the spotlight whilst norman is around
3) Give the daily bugle a bigger role in peters life (his supporting cast will fill itself)
4) Bring back cletus =(
Labman
07-09-2007, 08:38 AM
Cletus is gone! However, that symbiote is still out in space somewhere....that would make an okay story line, even though maximum carnage has been a bit overdone.
Theophilus
07-09-2007, 10:05 AM
Definitely a one-shot type Spidey/Human Torch teamup.
Some stories that focus more on the humorous aspects of Spidey as New York's most misunderstood superhero.
In case anyone didn't notice, I grew up on Spidey in the 80s, and yes, that's my model of the perfect Spider-Man stories.
Some "out of time" stories weaved into Spidey's glory days, without the excess baggage he's accumulated in recent years.
A real Green Goblin/Hobgoblin throwdown.
And on a serious note, an Eddie Brock/Venom story where the symbiote is able to dispense with the whole fire/sound weakness. Now how do you beat Venom? Incidentally, I have an answer.
Venom
07-09-2007, 10:13 AM
1. Bring Brock back as Venom and write a 6-part arc that'll be one of his most definitive stories.
2. Bring back Carnage and write a cool 4-part story about him.
3. Bring back Hobgoblin.
4. Use classic foes and create 6-10 new ones. I've already come up with six new ones.
5. Bring back old supporting characters and create new ones too.
6. Write a "Deadly Foes Of Spider-Man" style story.
Mister Mets
07-09-2007, 01:03 PM
If I was one of the writers on Amazing Spider-Man.........
1. J Jonah Jameson would be put through hell. Because I love the character, and want people to care about him. That's why he might be framed for murder (and other nasty things.)
2. Fusion (from Paul Jenkins's run) would return in a big way, in a longer mega-arc composed of smaller tales. Hell, I might even do several Fusion stories in a row, relying on the other 2-3 writers to do other types of stories in between.
3. Peter Parker would meet new family members (ie- his mother's side of the family.)
4. I'd try to tell more "experimental" Spider-Man stories, inspired by stories which don't usually influence Spider-Man comics (ie- All-Star Superman, Will Eisner's The Spirit) although I'd ensure that it all remains appropriate for the character.
5. Carnage would probably die (again) but he'd go out with a bang, and hopefully after several good stories.
6. There would be some new supporting cast members, and villains, some of whom I'll kill off.
7. Story length would vary. I have ideas for single issue stories, 6 part epics and everything in between.
8. I'd try to tell the definitive Lizard story. Shame he doesn't have one.
9. There would be a mega-arc (lasting an year or two) with Doctor Octopus becoming as major a recurring character as Norman Osborn.
10. I'd try to tell kickass stories with "minor" villains (the Jury, the Chameleon, the Spot, etc) and some Marvel villains hasn't fought before (following Roger Stern's example.)
Mister Mets
07-09-2007, 01:11 PM
I'd explore the inner workings of the Bugle alot more, maybe even have MJ working there as a fashion columnist. The Bugle has always been my primary interest with the books, and I'd like to see it take and keep center stage. I always thought there was a missed opportunity with Brock and the Bugle as well: what if Spidey and one of his rogues both worked at the same paper, and knew each other's identity? There'd be unbelievable tension, manipulations, and yet one couldn't expose the other without being outed himself.
Oh, and my editor would chew me out for having too many Manwolf stories.:D
Honestly MJ working as a fashion consultant might be a good idea.
Especially if she & Peter break up for some reason. :D
I'd pay Matt Fraction to tell me what to do.
:D
You could lobby for him to be one of your fellow writers.
And then ask him for his leftover ideas.
Albert
07-09-2007, 09:27 PM
Honestly MJ working as a fashion consultant might be a good idea.
Especially if she & Peter break up for some reason. :D
Why Hecubus, you're positively evil. But I like it.
Essentially, my overall goal as a writer would be to make things as claustrophobic as possible. Spidey's supporting cast tends to become so compartmentalized, that you don't get a chance to see the friction and interaction between the "minor" players.
Dr. Chaos
07-10-2007, 01:04 AM
I'd probably write alot of symbiote stories that people would get tired of pretty fast, give Brock back Venom and turn Gargan into Carnage which would lead to me turning in my resignation to Marvel after realizing I must have been high when I wrote that.
Oh and I'd write a really bad universally reviled out of continuity story about how the Demogoblin was Harry and ate MJ's baby.
Chris Nowlin
07-10-2007, 01:05 AM
I'd probably write alot of symbiote stories that people would get tired of pretty fast, give Brock back Venom and turn Gargan into Carnage which would lead to me turning in my resignation to Marvel after realizing I must have been high when I wrote that.
Oh and I'd write a really bad universally reviled out of continuity story about how the Demogoblin was Harry and ate MJ's baby.
Better ideas than a lot of actual writers...
Albert
07-10-2007, 01:09 AM
Oh and I'd write a really bad universally reviled out of continuity story about how the Demogoblin was Harry and ate MJ's baby.
Harry Osborn as The Dingo!
Enter_Address_Here
07-10-2007, 09:30 AM
I love MJ with all my heart. I really do, but I would have to do something about them. Get either some stress between them or find a reason to break them up without them actually breaking up.
Maybe being on the run from the law forces him to break it off with her. Maybe MJ gets caught, and Peter breaks her out and she leaves the nation. Maybe have him meet a new crew. Later on we can bring her back, but they fell apart from each other and they are just friends.
I would need some love triangles. I wish to bring Harry back, and make him a friend again. Spidey needs friends.
That's my main concern with the series.
666andahalf
07-10-2007, 12:10 PM
I would need some love triangles. I wish to bring Harry back, and make him a friend again. Spidey needs friends.
Love triangles have been done to DEATH! Marvel needs to learn how to write the marriage better, not try to go back to the past. I do agree that Peter needs more close friends though...
sabongero
07-11-2007, 02:59 AM
1] Sins Past was already done in AS-M, and revisited in Spectacular S-M. How about Sins Past Going Forward. This way all the comic book message boards will flame up again just like back when JMS did that storyarc.
2] Back from the Dead, the story of Ben Reilly's return.
3] Triumvirate Death-Trap, I am sure this is being done sometime in a future Spidey book or in Avengers Initiative. The Three Iron Spiders corner Spider-Man Back in Black.
4] I won't stop until you are just a smear on my fist! The final death of Norman Osborn in the 616 Universe.
sabongero
07-11-2007, 03:00 AM
double post.
SnakeEater
07-15-2007, 07:11 AM
i've defended spiderman a lot but lately ive just grown board of this two years long megacrap they are taking on him right now. He hasnt rested in two years when suddenly BAM WHAM POW!?!?!?! someone or something is kicking his keister all over the place. But anyhow im not defending this weekly thing. What was wrong with having three titles a month? Now we hav them gone (because marvel cant keep any other spiderman books running for some reason) but we have to sit through different writers telling a different story every week? What the hell? Why cant marvel find someone who can do for spidey what claremont did for xmen in the 70's - WRITE SPIDEY FOR !& YEARS? Why do they constantly change the writer and just make him dwell deeper and deeper in this crap?
Wild Card13
07-15-2007, 08:39 AM
Were I to write Spidey weekly, there are a couple ideas I'd toy with:
1. More strongly show Spidey as NYC's established protector. Yeah, there's DD and the Avengers, but really, when it comes to New York's superhero community none is more recongizable or down-to-Earth as Spidey. I'd show the kind of effect he has on the common man.
2. Bring the supporting cast closer together. Like someone else said, Spidey has multiple supporting casts: his family, his work cast, his school cast, his friends in the superhero community...why segregate them all? Let's see J. Jonah Jameson get verbally bitchslapped by Aunt May.
3. Introduce new villains. I love Spidey's rogues gallery, but I think that by using the same villains for decades we might just fall into a rut where Story A has to be a Venom story, etc. I've got a couple ideas for enemies stewing in my head.
Dark Soul # 7
07-15-2007, 09:40 AM
Stories: Start with 2-3 two parter stories that re-vamps some of Spider-man's minor main villains, Shocker and the like, while a dark figure with a link to Spider-man is fleeing for his/her life as a subplot that will be wrapped up by the end of the first year.
A confrontation between Spider-man and the current Thunderbolts.
A big storyline with a mob war between super-powered gangsters like the Hood and Black Tarantula.
Have one big Dr.Octopus story that shows that he's a real threat in Marvel, and at the same time try. It would also include Carolyn Trainner and Stunner.
A continuing plot with Mysterio having a mysterious agenda.
Villains: Create at least two new villains and use at least two exisiting villains that are not associated with Spider-man. I would also use villains that haven't been used in years, like Alistair Smythe.
Give Eddie Brock a dignified death and make Gargan a definite threat.
Make Carnage scary and a real threat, in some new form.
Make Sandman a good guy again.
Supporting cast: Establish a supporting cast fromt he Bugle, the school, the remaining Stacy's and some new ones. Make them all more involved in Peter's life. The more the merrier, and the more ways Peter can be attacked. Kill of somebody of Peter's supporting, not MJ, cast after making that person likeable. :evilsmile
I love MJ with all my heart. I really do, but I would have to do something about them. Get either some stress between them or find a reason to break them up without them actually breaking up.I like this, it's good. I'd use his neighbour Caryn and her dog Barker for the task, and Jill Stacy.
JBKWaka
07-16-2007, 08:19 AM
Honestly MJ working as a fashion consultant might be a good idea.Especially if she & Peter break up for some reason. :D
Yeah if that can work in the MC2 universe I'm pretty sure it can work here also except for the part of them breaking up :D
Labman
07-16-2007, 10:39 AM
I would like to go into deeper stories for the lesser known or under-rated villains.
Toku King
07-16-2007, 10:44 AM
1. Bring back Hobgoblin.
2. Make Doc Ock a long time villain again.
3. Erase the IUnmasked story for good.
4. Keep Aunt May alive, later to die of old age.
5. Take away Gargan Venom, make him the Scorpion again, and give back Brock the symbiote and ready to kill Spiderman again.
6. Give him new threats that actually become long time enemies.
7. Keep Peter as a school teacher.
8. Pit many villains against eachother, like Venom vs. Scorpion, or Green Goblin vs. Dr. Octopus.
9. No special abilities. Spider-Man is Spider-Man.
10. Crossovers galore!
Ult. Fireboy
07-16-2007, 11:59 AM
I would write a four part story about Spider-Man fighting Venom to the death.
matthewaos
07-08-2008, 02:18 PM
OK, everyone's dream: Marvel has decided to make you the nextSpider-Man writer, and for some unknown reason you have been given free reign. What do you do?
Speaking for myself, I would establish Hobgoblin as a Kingpin kind of villain and let Osborn rest for a while. Mysterio would sure be back having a big and great story. Generally I would like to write about classic villains and maybe two or three new ones. I would like to use the supporting cast a lot, and maybe bring back a forgotten one. The tone of the book would be in the classic Stern or DeFalco stories, but with DeMatteis' characterization and storytelling.
Oh yeah... I would retcon OMD, after a big story.
Mister Mets
07-08-2008, 02:39 PM
Depends on what Quesada (or whoever happens to be EIC) wants.
I'd prefer to keep Spider-Man single, but if asked I could restore the marriage in a single issue. If that were to happen, Vin Gonzalez & Carlie would suddenly become a married couple, in addition to friends and neighbors with the Parkers. Peter and MJ would have a few months of happiness, before it's time to shake that up somehow. At least for a little while.
Otherwise, I'd have Peter get a girlfriend for a few months. And then have her dump him the moment she learns his secret identity, and realizes that there's now a possibility that a supervillain may endanger her nephews to get to Spider-Man. Peter would eventually remember what happened in One More Day, but decide not to tell MJ.
The Lizard, Chameleon, Doctor Octopus, Fusion and Carnage would all have major storylines. A new villain would use the Spot's technology to commit more serious crimes (IE- breaking Carnage out of jail.) A mysterious mastermind would form a new supervillain group composed of obscure Spider-Man villains (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=227769) And there would be some new villains.
Oh, and Peter Parker would get some new relatives, in the guise of a cousin on his mother's side, unaware that the guy is a SHIELD agent sent to keep tabs on him.
The official approach would be the Spider-Man version of All-Star Superman. I'd do my best to introduce new concepts/ characters, and shake up the status quo every now and then, while also remembering that I'd be borrowing Spider-Man from Brubaker, Fraction and Morrison.
I'd just do my own, finite story, add my own things here and there (keep Gwen alive and not unaltered/cloned/ressurected/date-raped), and organicly evovle Peter and MJ through that, have him age and die....a definitive timeline, as I beleive Spidey is meant to be precisly this in order to work properly.
CyberHubbs
07-08-2008, 03:18 PM
Depends on what Quesada (or whoever happens to be EIC) wants.
I'd prefer to keep Spider-Man single, but if asked I could restore the marriage in a single issue. If that were to happen, Vin Gonzalez & Carlie would suddenly become a married couple, in addition to friends and neighbors with the Parkers. Peter and MJ would have a few months of happiness, before it's time to shake that up somehow. At least for a little while.
Otherwise, I'd have Peter get a girlfriend for a few months. And then have her dump him the moment she learns his secret identity, and realizes that there's now a possibility that a supervillain may endanger her nephews to get to Spider-Man. Peter would eventually remember what happened in One More Day, but decide not to tell MJ.
The Lizard, Chameleon, Doctor Octopus, Fusion and Carnage would all have major storylines. A new villain would use the Spot's technology to commit more serious crimes (IE- breaking Carnage out of jail.) A mysterious mastermind would form a new supervillain group composed of obscure Spider-Man villains (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=227769) And there would be some new villains.
Oh, and Peter Parker would get some new relatives, in the guise of a cousin on his mother's side, unaware that the guy is a SHIELD agent sent to keep tabs on him.
The official approach would be the Spider-Man version of All-Star Superman. I'd do my best to introduce new concepts/ characters, and shake up the status quo every now and then, while also remembering that I'd be borrowing Spider-Man from Brubaker, Fraction and Morrison.
Just a side note: Didn't Sentry kill Carnage at the beginning of New Avengers: Breakout? Tore Cletus in half and tossed the remains into the sun. Not that death is much of a hindrance, of course...
I'd have Peter caught in the middle of a power struggle between The Hood and Mr. Negative. Hood has an ensemble of super-powered villains, but his resources are limited. Mr. Negative, on the other hand, has far more influence both within the criminal underworld and several key political circles (Li, also, would have been running for Mayor and winning!).
Peter ends up infiltrating Mr. Negative's group, posing as a replacement for the recently fired Overdrive. He shows "promise", and starts climbing the ranks, but then draws the attention of The Hood and his gang who want to lure him over to their team. The entire time, of course, he's working both sides against each other.
Then Mr. Osborn and the Thunderbolts are called in to take care of The Hood, which is just a reason to capture and fill Thunderbolt Mountain with some fresh recruits. Norman, now, is on the side of the law against an undercover Peter Parker. He gets caught during a raid, and this leads to a confrontation between Norman and Parker...
I'd just do my own, finite story, add my own things here and there
What?! ZT4's "own, finite story, with his own things here and there" is a re-tread! I'm sure I saw that somewhere else during the 40+ year history of Spider-Man! Is that the best you can do?
(keep Gwen alive and not unaltered/cloned/ressurected/date-raped),
No way! You just retconned the last 30 years of history! BOYCOTT!!! I refuse to read ASM until you put everything back where it was-- including Gwen Stacy back in her grave! Where does Marvel find these guys?!!
and organicly evovle Peter and MJ through that, have him age and die....a definitive timeline, as I beleive Spidey is meant to be precisly this in order to work properly.
Oh no he didn't!!! Peter and MJ aging? That's what MC2 is for! Why are they dragging that into 616?!!! This SUCKS! This is a slap in the face to everything 616 Spider-Man is all about! You're in for it now, ZT4! 'Cause I and all the other "ANTI-ZT4 crowd" plan on clogging up all your message boards and threads with bitter tantrums and tirades for 6 months... maybe more! Reverse it! Reverse it!
Just kidding. :biggrin:
I'll use my own user name as the status quoe, put you on the braintrust, and you can make a jackass out of us all at conventions dicking off the fans:tongue:
TF_loki
07-08-2008, 03:36 PM
I'd just do my own, finite story, add my own things here and there (keep Gwen alive and not unaltered/cloned/ressurected/date-raped), and organicly evovle Peter and MJ through that, have him age and die....a definitive timeline, as I beleive Spidey is meant to be precisly this in order to work properly.
Thanks for killing off spider-man. I guess nobody gets to read him now....
stillanerd
07-08-2008, 03:40 PM
Couple things about the status quo I'd set up:
Peter and MJ are a couple once again, but still remain unmarried. Because of her career as an actress, she still has to work in Los Angeles so theirs is a long-distance relationship. This, of course, drives Peter nuts because he'd really like to spend more time with MJ when they're trying to patch together their relationship. And, of course, a new complication arises...
The Black Cat is back! And since she's just broken up with Puma, she's set her sights on Spider-Man once again. Plus, as Felicia Hardy, she's also posing as Vin Gonzales' new girlfriend, which makes things even more complicated.
Flash Thompson is also back in the books and so is Liz Allen, and the two of them are dating and occassionally hang out with Peter. One of the stories involves Peter having to babysit Normie while Flash and Liz go out on a date.
After Dexter Bennet was exposed as collaborating with Menace, the Bugle is bought back by Jameson. Joe Robertson becomes the new editor while Jolly Jonah ends up running for Mayor of New York city, with Lily Hollister as his campaign manager.
Where's Carlie Cooper in all of this? Well, she's in prision after being caught as the Green Goblin inspired Menace. And where's Harry? It's been earlier revealed that he was actually Mephisto. Officially, however, Harry has been declared a missing person.
Taking a cue from the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon, Tombstone now becomes a major player to take over organized crime, and a war starts between him and Mr. Negative.
Couple other stories could involve what's left of the Sinister Six--Doc Ock, Vulture, Sandman, Electro, and the Daniel Beckhart Mysterio--trying to recruit a new member via supervillain tryouts, the debut of a couple of new villains, and Aunt May becoming a twisted evil version of herself after being possessed by one of Venom's symbiotes.
Jim Thompson
07-08-2008, 03:42 PM
Thanks for killing off spider-man. I guess nobody gets to read him now....Just remember what some of the pro-BNDers have said -- you can always enjoy back issues. :biggrin:
Mister Mets
07-08-2008, 04:35 PM
Couple things about the status quo I'd set up:
Peter and MJ are a couple once again, but still remain unmarried. Because of her career as an actress, she still has to work in Los Angeles so theirs is a long-distance relationship. This, of course, drives Peter nuts because he'd really like to spend more time with MJ when they're trying to patch together their relationship. And, of course, a new complication arises...
The Black Cat is back! And since she's just broken up with Puma, she's set her sights on Spider-Man once again. Plus, as Felicia Hardy, she's also posing as Vin Gonzales' new girlfriend, which makes things even more complicated.
Flash Thompson is also back in the books and so is Liz Allen, and the two of them are dating and occassionally hang out with Peter. One of the stories involves Peter having to babysit Normie while Flash and Liz go out on a date.
After Dexter Bennet was exposed as collaborating with Menace, the Bugle is bought back by Jameson. Joe Robertson becomes the new editor while Jolly Jonah ends up running for Mayor of New York city, with Lily Hollister as his campaign manager.
Where's Carlie Cooper in all of this? Well, she's in prision after being caught as the Green Goblin inspired Menace. And where's Harry? It's been earlier revealed that he was actually Mephisto. Officially, however, Harry has been declared a missing person.
Taking a cue from the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon, Tombstone now becomes a major player to take over organized crime, and a war starts between him and Mr. Negative.
Couple other stories could involve what's left of the Sinister Six--Doc Ock, Vulture, Sandman, Electro, and the Daniel Beckhart Mysterio--trying to recruit a new member via supervillain tryouts, the debut of a couple of new villains, and Aunt May becoming a twisted evil version of herself after being possessed by one of Venom's symbiotes.So you're taking the Auntie Venom joke seriously?
Incidentally, those are some good ideas.
Just a side note: Didn't Sentry kill Carnage at the beginning of New Avengers: Breakout? Tore Cletus in half and tossed the remains into the sun. Not that death is much of a hindrance, of course...It should still be pretty easy to bring back Carnage. Just reveal that Cletus Kassidy wasn't hooked up to the symbiote.
Cyclopsj316
07-08-2008, 05:09 PM
This would be how BND ends, setting back up the original status qou, and allowing growth in peters life once more...
copy and pasted from an earlier post of course...
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Have Peter finally realize that he broke his promise to be with his wife, "through better or worse". Have him realize that His aunt May would never have allowed this. Have Pete figure out about the mephisto deal through M.J., who actually remembers.
After a long hard fought battle, we go back to the original choice. This time, Aunt May's astral projection is there with peter, m.j., and mephisto... thanks to doctor strange's help.. She tells peter that she has lived a long life, and that she does not want him giving up his marriage for her. she won't allow it. Pete of course says
"I can't do that Aunt May."
Aunt May says, " I know Peter. I love you."
Aunt May's astral form then arrives at the hospital, and pulls the plug on her body. Peter follows her, but is too late. His astral form arrives just in time to see may being welcomed and comforted in uncle ben's arms !! Ben says
"It's o.k. son. She's home now. Now the rest is up to you. Make her proud Peter... make us both proud. Remember your responsibilities, and make the right choice... "
after may and ben leave into the light, pete is left alone with m.j. and mephisto. With tears in his eyes, he realizes that Aunt May was the only one strong enough to make the decision for all of them. He recognizes what she was trying to do for him, and honors that decision by making one of his own, as he speaks...
"Theres no way I'm leaving my wife devil. I let you take her away the first time... I won't let you take her away again... I understand now. Aunt May was devastated when she lost uncle ben. She couldnt stand to watch her nephew lose his wife in any way, shape or form. You lose Mephisto. You can't have our love..."
after a climactic battle on the astral plane, and with the help of dr. strange, mephisto is beaten back, and peter and M.J. are left with a second chance at life. The BND is removed, and everyones memories pre BND are restored, although everyones memories during BND are in a state of confusion, regarding peters identity, and marriage for those close to him. Peter and M.J. are the only ones left with memories of BND. It is a gift, M.J. thinks, as it serves as a reminder of the power of their love, and how valuable it is. Peter ends that thought with this sentence.
"For better of for worse..."
The End. Aunt May has a proper and honorable send off, and she leaves behind the greatest gift she can give her nephew. Love...
Chiasm
07-08-2008, 06:09 PM
I would fix the mess that is Brand New Day and I'd so in a way that would still leave Peter single since thats what Joe Q wants.
Here is how I would do it.
1) Reveal that MJ remembers everything. This was sorta hinted at a couple issues ago depending on how you interpret her statements and reading of Faust. When MJ was whispering to Mephisto she cut a deal where she would remember it all but she can't tell or the deal comes undone and May dies. Mephisto would go for it because this would heighten MJ's pain.
2) MJ is trying to somehow undo the deal without hurting May.
3) Create some big arc where MJ finally makes her move to undo the deal without May dying.
4) At the climax of the arc Peter gets his memories back but MJ ends up dying. And while Peter remembers everything the real world doesn't remember the marriage. If the editors won't let me kill MJ then I send her into comic book limbo by making Peter decide he can't be with MJ for making the deal with Mephisto without his consent. Either way for the world at large Peter is single and only he and maybe MJ know they were ever married.
Now we have a Peter who remembers everything. The marriage again counts for something. Peter is still single but the real world still remembers that he was never married.
This way the marriage fans have the marriage matter again and Joe Q still gets his precious single Spidey.
As to Aunt May I'd want her die but the editors probably wouldn't let me do that so she would have to live. I'd like her to get her memories back too since I loved the storylines that ensued after May found out about Peter.
Thanks for killing off spider-man. I guess nobody gets to read him now....
You clearly didnt read a lick of what I posted.
Besides, Harras and Quesada killed Spidey.
stillanerd
07-08-2008, 08:39 PM
So you're taking the Auntie Venom joke seriously?
Well, maybe not TOO seriously. (Heh, "Auntie Venom," nice pun). Basically I'm envisioning a darkly humorous take off on the frail and sugary sweet Aunt May Stan Lee and Steve Ditko had before going full bore Venom for a couple of issues before going back to normal.
Incidentally, those are some good ideas.
Thank you.
Alan2099
07-08-2008, 08:54 PM
Tore Cletus in half and tossed the remains into the sun. Not that death is much of a hindrance, of course...
Yeah, and he also completley messed up when describing what Carnage actually was, there was no sign of Cletus in the symbite, the characterization seemed off, and the prison had quite a few characters in it that were supposedly dead.
You want Carnage back, Just do what Bendis himself does, ignore anything that gets in the way of the story you actually want to tell.
CyberHubbs
07-08-2008, 09:45 PM
So you're taking the Auntie Venom joke seriously?
Incidentally, those are some good ideas.
It should still be pretty easy to bring back Carnage. Just reveal that Cletus Kassidy wasn't hooked up to the symbiote.
It could have been the Carnage symbiote possessing another inmate that got killed, leaving Cletus to slip away quietly during all the commotion. I'd rather see him come back as a plain human serial killer. I'd even use an old idea of having him offing villains in a crazed attempt to restore his super-powered status by trying to take theirs.
matthewaos
07-09-2008, 02:58 AM
This would be how BND ends, setting back up the original status qou, and allowing growth in peters life once more...
copy and pasted from an earlier post of course...
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Have Peter finally realize that he broke his promise to be with his wife, "through better or worse". Have him realize that His aunt May would never have allowed this. Have Pete figure out about the mephisto deal through M.J., who actually remembers.
After a long hard fought battle, we go back to the original choice. This time, Aunt May's astral projection is there with peter, m.j., and mephisto... thanks to doctor strange's help.. She tells peter that she has lived a long life, and that she does not want him giving up his marriage for her. she won't allow it. Pete of course says
"I can't do that Aunt May."
Aunt May says, " I know Peter. I love you."
Aunt May's astral form then arrives at the hospital, and pulls the plug on her body. Peter follows her, but is too late. His astral form arrives just in time to see may being welcomed and comforted in uncle ben's arms !! Ben says
"It's o.k. son. She's home now. Now the rest is up to you. Make her proud Peter... make us both proud. Remember your responsibilities, and make the right choice... "
after may and ben leave into the light, pete is left alone with m.j. and mephisto. With tears in his eyes, he realizes that Aunt May was the only one strong enough to make the decision for all of them. He recognizes what she was trying to do for him, and honors that decision by making one of his own, as he speaks...
"Theres no way I'm leaving my wife devil. I let you take her away the first time... I won't let you take her away again... I understand now. Aunt May was devastated when she lost uncle ben. She couldnt stand to watch her nephew lose his wife in any way, shape or form. You lose Mephisto. You can't have our love..."
after a climactic battle on the astral plane, and with the help of dr. strange, mephisto is beaten back, and peter and M.J. are left with a second chance at life. The BND is removed, and everyones memories pre BND are restored, although everyones memories during BND are in a state of confusion, regarding peters identity, and marriage for those close to him. Peter and M.J. are the only ones left with memories of BND. It is a gift, M.J. thinks, as it serves as a reminder of the power of their love, and how valuable it is. Peter ends that thought with this sentence.
"For better of for worse..."
The End. Aunt May has a proper and honorable send off, and she leaves behind the greatest gift she can give her nephew. Love...
Hey, that sounds like a great idea!! Actually my idea was kind of like yours, but with an other magical entity helping MJ find the truth. I guess in the end I would break them up though, cause MJ can't stand the whole thing. Also, I like when a writer brings back characters that no one like, but he does magic with them. So I think I would bring back Demogoblin, Vengeance, the Scrier, etc...
Venom
07-09-2008, 06:15 AM
If I was writer on The Amazing Spider-Man I'd write 50-60 issues worth of stories. I have ideas for about six to nine new super villains. I'd try and do a defining story for Venom, but not before reuniting the Symbiote with Eddie Brock. I also have the perfect idea for a brilliant Carnage story. I'd definitely use the classic villains as well, but after I've introduced the new villains. The thing is I know how to start off my run, but I can't think of a way to end it.
Mister Mets
07-09-2008, 08:34 AM
If I was writer on The Amazing Spider-Man I'd write 50-60 issues worth of stories. I have ideas for about six to nine new super villains. I'd try and do a defining story for Venom, but not before reuniting the Symbiote with Eddie Brock. I also have the perfect idea for a brilliant Carnage story. I'd definitely use the classic villains as well, but after I've introduced the new villains. The thing is I know how to start off my run, but I can't think of a way to end it.You'd have five years to come up with an ending. :biggrin:
Unless they decide to replace the braintrust with you. Then, you're screwed.
Joe Acro
07-09-2008, 08:36 AM
I'd have to request to be the writer of Doctor Strange as well. I have an idea for large story involving him that would lead to an epic story involving Peter.
matthewaos
07-09-2008, 09:34 AM
No More Doc Strange/Spider-Man team ups!!!!!:mad:
Endless Flight
07-09-2008, 09:39 AM
I'd get rid of the marriage and bring back the 70s.
Oh, wait...:biggrin:
hunter_peterson
07-09-2008, 11:26 PM
I'd make use of some new villains... maybe a new hero who appears to be perfect but really causes great devestation to those around him, y'know cancer or something.
And I would use a corporation that is doing super soldier research by taking "samples" from super-powered folk. Perhaps Spidey could cause a scientist to inject himself with something to save his life, ruining his life.
And I would bring in a super villain team of guys wearing sandwitch boards, who throw sandwitches. Just so Spidey can complain on how he gets the lame ones.
Tobias Drake
07-10-2008, 07:59 AM
Two words: The Hood. Peter needs a competent crimelord villain, but I don't see the need to invent a brand new never-before-heard-of character and expect everyone to take him as seriously as Kingpin. I have no problem with new villains, but there are some roles that are better served by characters that don't make you compelled to ask, "Who is this guy and why should I care?" The Hood is up and coming in the crimelord business and really needs to start making more appearances in the MU New York if he wants to be taken as a serious threat. I'd have Negative ousted by Hood's supervillain army and, after a brief power struggle, sign on with Hood and be given territorial control over a part of the city's underworld, answering to Hood.
CMBMOOL
07-10-2008, 08:06 AM
I would...
1. Undo BND and allow Aunt May to die.
2. Have the BND characters still exist but have different memories.
3. Have Harry and Menace be a part of Mephisto's plan to corrupt Spidey and his morals.
4. Have some of the BND females be a part of MJ's soul, which Mephisto splits up in pieces in order for her to keep an eye out for "Peter."
5. With everyone memories restored, have a massive Supervillain/Spider-man and friends attack NY, with Spidey and MJ supposed to be killed.
6. When it is later revealed that was an LMD, and the real Spider-man and MJ are now in the Witness Protection Program, couresty of Tony Stark and S.H.I.E.L.D, as they try to start a new life away from New York City.
7. Renamed the series the new adventures of MR. and MRS. Spider-man, just for kicks.
And finished. :tongue:
hawkeye comeback
07-10-2008, 10:33 AM
hmmm
i'd have spider-man get beaten by a brand new villain who works for a company who blackmails him to steal stuff from oscorp so we get a spidey and green gobbo fight then they team up destroy the evidence and then fight the new super baddie the norman calls the Tbolts and spidey calls the new avengers so we have a big fight.
Mj gonna be telling Peter about OMD deal but then mephisto stops her by manipulating the venom symboite to bind with her.
Mj reveals herself to be Jackpot
Arachne and Spidey team-up
Sabertooth vs Spidey fight
Gang war Mr.negative and the Hood trying to become the new crimelord while kingpin try's to re-assert his control. ends with a 4 way brawl : negatives guys, hoods army of supes, the kingpins troops and spidey, Daredevil, Black cat, Human Torch, Ronin, Luke cage, Ironfist
HopeLantern
07-10-2008, 12:39 PM
Some ideas for Spidey...
1) I would write a 4 issue story arc that would be a team up with New Cap. We know that Spidey loves Cap, and it would be nice to see how he interacts with a new version of Cap. Will he respect him? Will he dislike him? Will they fight at first? How will Bucky react to the larger Marvel Universe? How would teaming with Marvel's flagship character feel? I just feel that that would be a great story to explore, especially with Spidey being in the "Depressed" chapter of the 5 stages of Death story arc.
2) Re: OMD/BND. I don't like Retcons. But then retconning a retcon just makes you seem like you didn't know what you were doing in the first place. So instead of undoing BND, I would make it so that yes MJ does remember everything. Also though, what if Mephisto underestimated the strength of the love that MJ and Peter had? MJ had that cryptic line in the end of OMD where she says that nothing is stronger than their love. She's right. Mephisto said there's one part of Peter that will always remember thier love, too? What if that part started haunting him nightly? Nightmares, dreams of this married life that supposedly never happened? Waking up to fears of Aunt May dying? I think I would play that out over the course of the next year which would end up with Pete asking MJ to marry him. This sets up a final showdown between Spidey and Mephisto. I hate adding mystical stuff to Spider-Man titles, but w/ Mephisto that's what you get. Spidey wins but barely, but the cost is Aunt May. She dies. But the death is treated honorably. There's no way for Peter not to carry the responsibility of her death. He needs that, but I'd write a one shot celebrating the life of Aunt May as well. I guess a la Final Crisis: Requiem.
3) I'd keep all the new villians except Freak. Menace is a completely new character, but it is revealed that she (yes, she) had been exposed to the Goblin formula.
4) The venom symbiote is supposed to have one more spawn in it. That's never been touched on. I think it's time for that spawn to be delivered. Does anybody remember Toxin? How about Hybrid? I might bring them back for another arc. It would be an arc to clear the MU of all other Symbiotes except Venom. During the arc, MJ bonds with a symbiote to become the new Scream. The biological hatred for Spidey in the symbiote (born from Venom) combines with the overwhelming sadness and anger MJ has for Parker making the deal with Mephisto in the first place and makes her the perfect killing machine. She beats Spidey w/in an inch of his life and it takes Venom, Toxin, Hybrid and the new Symbiote to take her down. They all fail, (dramatically). Carnage makes his surprise return to the MU, and murders Toxin, and Hybrid. Spidey in a last ditch effort has to bond with the Venom symbiote to beat MJ/Scream. This sets up a chain of events that ultimately result in "death of all symbiotes" except Venom.
5) Jackpot is revealed to be the little girl in OMD, brought backwards in time. No one knew this but Mephisto. Don't forget, we don't know all of JP's powers yet.
6) I would like another Spidey / X-Men cross over, too. Not sure what this would be though. But no, he wouldn't be carrying babies and jumping forward through time. :biggrin:
I guess that's all my ideas right now...
stillanerd
07-10-2008, 12:58 PM
Some ideas for Spidey...
1) I would write a 4 issue story arc that would be a team up with New Cap. We know that Spidey loves Cap, and it would be nice to see how he interacts with a new version of Cap. Will he respect him? Will he dislike him? Will they fight at first? How will Bucky react to the larger Marvel Universe? How would teaming with Marvel's flagship character feel? I just feel that that would be a great story to explore, especially with Spidey being in the "Depressed" chapter of the 5 stages of Death story arc.
That's a great idea for a team-up.
2) Re: OMD/BND. I don't like Retcons. But then retconning a retcon just makes you seem like you didn't know what you were doing in the first place. So instead of undoing BND, I would make it so that yes MJ does remember everything. Also though, what if Mephisto underestimated the strength of the love that MJ and Peter had? MJ had that cryptic line in the end of OMD where she says that nothing is stronger than their love. She's right. Mephisto said there's one part of Peter that will always remember thier love, too? What if that part started haunting him nightly? Nightmares, dreams of this married life that supposedly never happened? Waking up to fears of Aunt May dying? I think I would play that out over the course of the next year which would end up with Pete asking MJ to marry him. This sets up a final showdown between Spidey and Mephisto. I hate adding mystical stuff to Spider-Man titles, but w/ Mephisto that's what you get. Spidey wins but barely, but the cost is Aunt May. She dies. But the death is treated honorably. There's no way for Peter not to carry the responsibility of her death. He needs that, but I'd write a one shot celebrating the life of Aunt May as well. I guess a la Final Crisis: Requiem.
That would be a good way to start bringing some kind of resolution to OMD, although I doubt Marvel would have Aunt May be killed off.
5) Jackpot is revealed to be the little girl in OMD, brought backwards in time. No one knew this but Mephisto. Don't forget, we don't know all of JP's powers yet.
I've been recently theorizing something similar with regards to Jackpot as well. I'm thinking that Jackpot is MJ but not MJ and Sara Erhet but not Sara Erhet. She's the memory of what Peter and MJ used to have personified, with the powers and intellect of Peter but the appearance and personality of MJ, then transplanted into the soul of Sara Erhet, a rapid MJ fan, courtesy of Mephisto. Sara knows she becomes Jackpot, but has no idea how or why this happened, nor does have any memories of being Jackpot. This explains why Jackpot looks similair to MJ but is not identical to her and why Sara appeared not to know what Spidey was talking about when he talked to her at the end of ASM #551.
HopeLantern
07-10-2008, 02:19 PM
I'd have to request to be the writer of Doctor Strange as well. I have an idea for large story involving him that would lead to an epic story involving Peter.
What's the story you have in mind? I'm interested...:confused:
Joe Acro
07-10-2008, 05:34 PM
No More Doc Strange/Spider-Man team ups!!!!!:mad:It wouldn't be a team-up.
What's the story you have in mind? I'm interested...:confused:Can't say. I'm a bit paranoid like that.
Forgetting all this BND nonsense, I would actually go as far back as before Spidey left the Registration side. I don't think all the stuff that could have come along for Peter was explained. I also think that the pro-Reg side was made out to be the bad guys, when Marvel should have presented it as an even playing field. We saw all the crap that Spidey had to go through with Chameleon trying to kill Aunt May, Peter regretting his decision, and, oh yeah...Aunt May getting shot...but lets give Peter a break. Which is why I present to you a story called The Good Life.
Basically, its Peter accepting his newfound celebrity status. I think that would be a fun topic to explore. How does he react? What kind of things happen? What about MJ?
MJ, now being known as "The Woman who Married Spider-Man", sees her acting career skyrocket. She gets all these amazing roles alongside greats like Robert Downey Jr., Christian Bale, and even Tobey Maguire (they all played superheroes...in case you didnt know :) ). We see things like Peter on the red carpet, fighting villains in LA on said red carpet, and him interacting with superheroes and celebrities as a world famous guy.
Personally, I think that would be cool.
Matt Linton
07-12-2008, 11:56 AM
As I mentioned in another thread, I'd have JJJ enter the mayoral race, and win. He'd start a Spider-Man task force headed by Bill Hollister, headed up by Jackpot. Vin would be opposed to the task force, not because he likes Spider-Man, but because he sees it as a waste of time and money, and as something that just gives Spidey the attention he wants.
I'd have Mr. Negative make a move to consolidate the NY gangs. The Hood would find out that Lily Hollister is really Menace, and send her after Mr. Negative. During a huge battle involving Menace, Mr. Negative, and Spider-Man, Lily would be killed, and Harry would swear to take down Mr. Negative, not as a villain, but as a hero, taking over the Menace identity (and making Peter really, really nervous about where this would be headed).
Oh, and Vin and Carlie would finally start dating (with her keeping secret the fact that she's Jackpot), and Peter would call MJ to come help him console Harry after Lily's death, only for Harry and MJ to start dating again.
JJJ's administration would have to deal with the scandal of the daughter of the head of his SMTF being a supervillain.
Peter would decide to go back and finish his Master's (finally tired of working dead-end jobs).
And Vin would get a new partner - rookie cop Flash Thompson.
Robbie would leave the DB to be JJJ's press secretary, and Bennett would promote Betty Brant to his old position.
And I'd maybe have Aunt May start dating Dexter Bennett.
Jeremi
07-12-2008, 01:23 PM
End Brand New Day, but not before I'd do a major storyline with Blackheart, finally gaining a upper hand over his father and undo Peters wish against his consent, which would finally kill off Aunt May and reunite MJ & Peter as a couple, though they wouldn't be married. Bring back Quentin Beck Mysterio, and having him work for Blackheart.
Venom
07-12-2008, 04:01 PM
You'd have five years to come up with an ending. :biggrin:
Unless they decide to replace the braintrust with you. Then, you're screwed.
Joe Quesada: Aaron I'm terribly sorry, but we want you to end your run early.
Me: But I've only done three years. I've still got two years left till I want to end my run.
Joe Quesada: I know, but we want to bring back the braintrust.
Me: And who are they gonna be this time?
Joe Quesda: Ed Brubaker.
Me: Loved his Captain America.
Joe Quesada: Matt Fraction.
Me: He did a good run on Invincible Iron Man.
Joe Quesada: Peter David.
Me: Cool!
Joe Quesada: And Bob Gale.
Me: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
ReggieWhiteJr
07-12-2008, 05:00 PM
I'll keep it short it sweet. OMD never would have happened and Peter never would have unmasked. Since OMD never occurred, there would be no BND. I would move the series forward and hope to please the majority of the fans. MJ would be an off broad way actress, but she'd also continue to be a psychology major (remember that interesting little bit that was dropped during the '98 reboot). We'd see a lot more of Flash and Randy. They'd make regular appearances. I also like to do some stories where Peter gets to interact with some of his fans, some being teens.
Matt Linton
07-12-2008, 05:03 PM
I'll keep it short it sweet. OMD never would have happened and Peter never would have unmasked. Since OMD never occurred, there would be no BND. I would move the series forward and hope to please the majority of the fans. MJ would be an off broad way actress, but she'd also continue to be a psychology major (remember that interesting little bit that was dropped during the '98 reboot). We'd see a lot more of Flash and Randy. They'd make regular appearances. I also like to do some stories where Peter gets to interact with some of his fans, some being teens.
I don't think the writing gig comes with a time machine. :tongue:
ReggieWhiteJr
07-12-2008, 05:08 PM
I don't think the writing gig comes with a time machine. :tongue:
Time machine? Who needs that? I'll just dial up my old buddy Mephisto! :biggrin:
Mister Mets
07-15-2008, 01:56 PM
As for what I'd do with current stories, if I was a member of the Brain Trust. This assumes that the ideas the others have aren't better
Menace could be revealed as Carlie Cooper, who gained access to Osborn's weapons VIA Harry. There'd be some misdirection, and Harry might be framed for a while. The reveal would likely cause havoc for a couple of relationships (Harry and Norman, Harry and Lily, Vin and Harry, Vin and Peter, etc.)
Jackpot could be revealed as a slightly schizophrenic Sara Ehret. Mary Jane would essentially for whatever reason briefly don the Jackpot suit.
J Jonah Jameson would enter the mayoral race as a primary challenger against Crowne. He'd win the nomination, but I'm not quite sure he'd win the mayorality.
Joe Quesada: Aaron I'm terribly sorry, but we want you to end your run early.
Me: But I've only done three years. I've still got two years left till I want to end my run.
Joe Quesada: I know, but we want to bring back the braintrust.
Me: And who are they gonna be this time?
Joe Quesda: Ed Brubaker.
Me: Loved his Captain America.
Joe Quesada: Matt Fraction.
Me: He did a good run on Invincible Iron Man.
Joe Quesada: Peter David.
Me: Cool!
Joe Quesada: And Bob Gale.
Me: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!In that case you wouldn't have to worry about an ending, so it all works out.
Mister Mets
11-25-2008, 02:12 PM
Bump, because this is a topic that comes up every now and then.
If you were the writer for the weekly upcoming Spider-Man, what would you write about ? Would you have a four-story arc to encompass the whole month ? Or stand alone issues ?
What aspects of Spider-Man stories would you write and why ?I think the majority of my stories would be 3-5 issues.
I posted this elsewhere (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=215138&highlight=Manifesto), but some guidelines I'd follow...
Don't Break Anything: Spider-Man's adventures in the Marvel Universe have continued for more than 45 years, so I can't assume his adventures here will be over within the next generation. As a result, I'd be mindful of the consequences my developments can have on the comics a decade from now. I may get a great story by killing Aunt May (though it's happened so many times I doubt readers would really care) or ending the Spider-Man VS Jonah conflict, but both those options will close doors for future writers decades from now in ways I may not be able to appreciate (and some that I can). Future writers didn't inherit Spider-Man from JMS, or the current Brain Trust. They borrowed him from Brubaker, Fraction, Simone and everyone else who has the potential to have a great Spider-Man run in the future. This wouldn't stop me from introducing new villains, supporting cast members, etc. In addition, the illusion of change is surprisingly versatile and covers anything from Spider-Man joining the Avengers to Peter Parker getting a job as a teacher (in addition to a variety of romantic entanglements.) I might have Peter Parker get a job for a shady company for an year or two, instantly providing a mega-arc that shakes up the status quo.
It's About Peter Parker, Stupid: Peter Parker may just be the best character in comics, and his private life is one of the things that keeps readers coming back. I'd do my best to keep it interesting and in a state of flux. And remember that while Spider-Man has a great supporting cast, this is not an ensemble. The interesting lives of Flash Thompson, Harry Osborn, J Jonah Jameson and Aunt May should not overshadow Peter Parker's adventures.
Regarding the Villains: Spider-Man's probably got the best rogues gallery of any superhero, so I'd try to do them justice, while remembering that not all of them can or should become A-listers. I'd use the developments of recent writers and artists, to create the sense that their work is more significant (which will make my own work seem more important, too as a continuation of their stories.) The most under-appreciated villains are the newer ones, so it will be worth exploring them. Hell, even Hobgoblin, Venom and Carnage have been underused in the Spider-Man books lately. Rather than writing the 79th Spider-Man VS Electro fight, I could probably do more with the third Spider-Man VS Fusion encounter or a rematch between Spider-Man and Calimari. I'd still do the Doctor Octopus VS Spider-Man story that I really want to use, but I just make sure it stands out amongst the dozens of previous encounters the two have had.
Venom
11-25-2008, 02:43 PM
In all honesty I think Carnage has always been under used. He appeared a lot in the 90s, but that was around the time and era that he was created. And what villain didn't appear a lot when they were first made?
Venom appeared every once a year in Amazing Spider-Man during David Michelinie's run. Look how many times Stan Lee used Doc Ock. And the Hobgoblin was appearing nearly every single issue during the Roger Stern and Tom DeFalco era.
New villains always appear a lot when they're first made because they're something fresh, exciting and interesting to play with. Look at how much Mr Negative and Menace have appeared during this “Brand New Day” era. All the excuses people say about Carnage being over exposed during the 90s are what you could say about other Spidey villains. I'm pretty sure that other major villains' all together appearances have counted up to more than Carnage‘s overall appearances. Especially with how he's practically been non existent this decade.
Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but when they say Carnage was over exposed I think it's lame and pathetic. Look how regularly the Joker appears in Batman comics, but nobody complains about him being over exposed. Hell, I'm pretty sure he's appeared more frequently than Norman Osborn this past decade.
I’m sorry if I’ve offended anyone in this post.
ShaggyB
11-25-2008, 02:57 PM
I'd deal with his reaction to learning Aunt May is a skrull. Also his reaction to learning that Norman and the lame, powerless Judas Traveller are Skrulls.
lets leave Judas Traveller out of this and future books......
Lunal
11-25-2008, 03:12 PM
For the BND timeline, I'd add an evil inventor into the mix, ala Alastair Smythe. Revamp the Spider Slayer type of villians, with updated technology. The new Spiderman seems to have a somewhat reduced power level - either that or he just has more psychological inhibitors on using it to its full extent - so take advantage of that by giving him "training" villians that ramp up in effectiveness. Eventually, Spiderman finds out who is behind the slayers and this ends with a big confrontation. Then he finds out who funded the slayers - and maybe its his current employer. It would be somewhat of a retelling of a classic storyline, but I think it could be modernized and still have widespread appeal.
Endless Flight
11-25-2008, 04:18 PM
If I were the writer, I'd probably want to break all kinds of things.
CyberHubbs
11-25-2008, 04:18 PM
Spider-Man gets his back broken by a Fear Alien-Monster, then travels to Japan where a wise, old blind man helps him to rediscover the Spider Within. While he's gone, three Spider-Men surface in New York. One is a Doombot disguised as an android Spider-Man after losing control of its artificial intelligence; the second is Doc Ock's estranged son using a modified tentacle harness to try and right the wrongs of the father; and the third is Spi dur El, last son of the Arachnid Empire, jettisoned to Earth by caring parents, a humanoid spider just trying to get by in the city while living in an apartment building full of strange and colorful characters.
Dr. Chaos
11-25-2008, 04:30 PM
We'll...lets see.
First off, I would do everything in my power to damage Watson beyond repair for my own amusement.
-Turn her into a cheap callgirl.
-Have her bust a beer bottle over Peter's head in one of her now trademark drunken rages.
-Have her date The Rhino until he breaks up with her over various STDs which he suspects are a plot by Spider-Man to defeat him.
-Long running arc where The new Demogoblin is revealed to be her in disguise, Spider-Man fights her off to save his latest beau, swears revenge and a white coat if she ever comes back.
-Have Harry and Peter team up to throw her off a bridge like they should have twenty years ago.
Then I would probably just do a years worth of symbiote stories, give Spider-Man an annoying female sidekick, bring back Shriek and cash in on some cheap event tie-in issues while having Mr. Negative kill off Aunt May after finding out she's been stealing money from the register.
CyberHubbs
11-25-2008, 04:33 PM
We'll...lets see.
First off, I would do everything in my power to damage Watson beyond repair for my own amusement.
-Turn her into a cheap callgirl.
-Have her bust a beer bottle over Peter's head in one of her now trademark drunken rages.
-Have her date The Rhino until he breaks up with her over various STDs which he suspects are a plot by Spider-Man to defeat him.
-Long running arc where The new Demogoblin is revealed to be her in disguise, Spider-Man fights her off to save his latest beau, swears revenge and a white coat if she ever comes back.
-Have Harry and Peter team up to throw her off a bridge like they should have twenty years ago.
Then I would probably just do a years worth of symbiote stories, give Spider-Man an annoying female sidekick, bring back Shriek and cash in on some cheap event tie-in issues while having Mr. Negative kill off Aunt May after finding out she's been stealing money from the register.
Garth Ennis?
Dr. Chaos
11-25-2008, 05:54 PM
Garth Ennis?
Frank Miller, actually.
RDMacQ
11-25-2008, 09:24 PM
I'd try to get Spider-Man out of New York for a while. Take him other major American cities like Chicago, Miami, Washington, Houston. Have him leave the states and visit places like Tokyo, London, Madrid, Paris, Prague, and other cities all over Europe, South America and Asia. I'd make it a big world tour Spider-Man story, maybe tie it into an unsolved case that his parents were involved in, have him tangle with bad guys from other parts from the Marvel Universe that he doesn't meet with usually, like Baron Strucker, Baron Zemo, A.I.M, Modok, and other heavy players. Meanwhile, back in New York, the crime rate is sky rocketing leading to a major gang war between multiple factions. Eventually, after Spider-Man is finished with his world tour, he comes racing home to stop the crime wave and face off against the worst of Marvel's criminal underground in a huge battle royal.
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