SUPERECWFAN1
07-08-2008, 07:14 AM
Its no shock many women aren't reading comics. And those who do must roll their eyes at how DC/Marvel treats them. Either their tortured , raped , made to look like fools , sluts or forced to be pregnet. There is no in between for most women in comics.
Both companies are at fault for this. And lets examine a couple of them.
DC Comics : Spoiler :
Spoiler really was Robin's girlfriend and someone he didn't want being a hero. But over time she managed to carve her own identity out. Fans took to Stephanie Brown since she was written as such a human character by Chuck Dixon and over the years even subbed for Robin at one time.
Then in 2004 DC decided to do the usual calling card that you see above. So she became :
A Fool.
Tortured to death.
She then was allowed to be killed off in such a lackluster turd way that it pissed many off. Chuck Dixon came back and in his run from #170-#174 brought Spoiler back and made it like she faked her death. Which pleased many fans.
Hawkgirl : From being Hawkman's partner to Roy Harper's bed buddy
Hawkgirl was always written well by Geoff Johns and others in the solo Hawkman title. For years she had gotten great treatment in JSA and took part in many of their biggest , toughest battles . Kendra had a daughter but it wasn't til Hawkman returned and saw her he claimed he had came back for his true love.
Kendra was a reincarnated Egyptian Princess who like Hawkman was reincarnated countless times over the decades . Their love was timeless and the 2 would meet , fall in love ect ect. Well this was a decent way to describe Hawkman's muddled origin .
Anyhow , back to Hawkgirl....after years DC decided to capitalize on the fact that Hawkgirl was in Justice League Unlimited. They revamped the 'Hawkman" series and made it "Hawkgirl" . They then started to change the whole destiny situation they had established.
It wasn't something fans were interested in. Hawkgirl died a quick death as a title and soon Kendra was placed in JLA. Its there she met Roy Harper. Panel time barely showed anything beyond him making a few flirting lines in battle and showing his daughter to her. Also to reflect that Kendra was a poor mother ...her daughter was killed "OFF PANEL". Also to reflect what a STUD Roy Harper was , Kendra became his woman ...being caught in a scene where as a male reader you were supposed to go BOOOYYYAAA you rock Roy Harper ! Way to score some ass.
Its very sad to see the Hawkgirl character done this way. Even as a member of JLA she's not so important and when she faces a bad guy , Roy yells about not hurting her or anything. Hard to believe this is a woman who was given her own title at one time. But its coming from DC. So she needs a powerful man to make him look good.
Mary-Jane Watson : Makes foolish deals with Satan !
Lets get this outta the way early....Marvel Comics does not like Mary-Jane Watson. You look at the past decades and you see a fan favorite character which wins most CBR Corries ect ect. As well as other fan awards for best supporting character and ask this..."why does Marvel not like her ?"
Because she is as popular as Peter Parker . And that pisses them off. They wanna sabatouge it somehow. They wanna make the character look as bad as possible and push Peter as a swinging single again and if MJ is there as his loving wife and ohhh so popular they can't. They are SCREWED.
So for 2 decades , fans of the character have seen her ...
Become Pregnet.
Die in a plane explosion.
Being held by a pyscho fan and possibly tortured for awhile.
And becoming a fool for making deals with the devil and sleeping with a character no one likes !
Is it any shock at this point many roll their eyes at the people in charge of Marvel Comics ? Why write a character so bad to make them look bad ? Is it some grand mission to put a female character in their place and make MJ not so important anymore to the Spiderman mythos ?
At this stage its kinda sad and silly really. Most companies would die to have a Mary-Jane Watson character thats so popular she inspires a title and has carried a Hollywood string of movies. Instead at Marvel this is considered a bad thing. She's a woman and she's hampering that swinging Peter Parker. BEST PUT HER IN HER PLACE !
In the end this is a few examples of badly written female characters. Its like the companies involved feel the characters should be treated as shit to prop the male characters up. And is it little shock that it doesn't inspire much female fans ?
Both companies are at fault for this. And lets examine a couple of them.
DC Comics : Spoiler :
Spoiler really was Robin's girlfriend and someone he didn't want being a hero. But over time she managed to carve her own identity out. Fans took to Stephanie Brown since she was written as such a human character by Chuck Dixon and over the years even subbed for Robin at one time.
Then in 2004 DC decided to do the usual calling card that you see above. So she became :
A Fool.
Tortured to death.
She then was allowed to be killed off in such a lackluster turd way that it pissed many off. Chuck Dixon came back and in his run from #170-#174 brought Spoiler back and made it like she faked her death. Which pleased many fans.
Hawkgirl : From being Hawkman's partner to Roy Harper's bed buddy
Hawkgirl was always written well by Geoff Johns and others in the solo Hawkman title. For years she had gotten great treatment in JSA and took part in many of their biggest , toughest battles . Kendra had a daughter but it wasn't til Hawkman returned and saw her he claimed he had came back for his true love.
Kendra was a reincarnated Egyptian Princess who like Hawkman was reincarnated countless times over the decades . Their love was timeless and the 2 would meet , fall in love ect ect. Well this was a decent way to describe Hawkman's muddled origin .
Anyhow , back to Hawkgirl....after years DC decided to capitalize on the fact that Hawkgirl was in Justice League Unlimited. They revamped the 'Hawkman" series and made it "Hawkgirl" . They then started to change the whole destiny situation they had established.
It wasn't something fans were interested in. Hawkgirl died a quick death as a title and soon Kendra was placed in JLA. Its there she met Roy Harper. Panel time barely showed anything beyond him making a few flirting lines in battle and showing his daughter to her. Also to reflect that Kendra was a poor mother ...her daughter was killed "OFF PANEL". Also to reflect what a STUD Roy Harper was , Kendra became his woman ...being caught in a scene where as a male reader you were supposed to go BOOOYYYAAA you rock Roy Harper ! Way to score some ass.
Its very sad to see the Hawkgirl character done this way. Even as a member of JLA she's not so important and when she faces a bad guy , Roy yells about not hurting her or anything. Hard to believe this is a woman who was given her own title at one time. But its coming from DC. So she needs a powerful man to make him look good.
Mary-Jane Watson : Makes foolish deals with Satan !
Lets get this outta the way early....Marvel Comics does not like Mary-Jane Watson. You look at the past decades and you see a fan favorite character which wins most CBR Corries ect ect. As well as other fan awards for best supporting character and ask this..."why does Marvel not like her ?"
Because she is as popular as Peter Parker . And that pisses them off. They wanna sabatouge it somehow. They wanna make the character look as bad as possible and push Peter as a swinging single again and if MJ is there as his loving wife and ohhh so popular they can't. They are SCREWED.
So for 2 decades , fans of the character have seen her ...
Become Pregnet.
Die in a plane explosion.
Being held by a pyscho fan and possibly tortured for awhile.
And becoming a fool for making deals with the devil and sleeping with a character no one likes !
Is it any shock at this point many roll their eyes at the people in charge of Marvel Comics ? Why write a character so bad to make them look bad ? Is it some grand mission to put a female character in their place and make MJ not so important anymore to the Spiderman mythos ?
At this stage its kinda sad and silly really. Most companies would die to have a Mary-Jane Watson character thats so popular she inspires a title and has carried a Hollywood string of movies. Instead at Marvel this is considered a bad thing. She's a woman and she's hampering that swinging Peter Parker. BEST PUT HER IN HER PLACE !
In the end this is a few examples of badly written female characters. Its like the companies involved feel the characters should be treated as shit to prop the male characters up. And is it little shock that it doesn't inspire much female fans ?