OT: The Goon CGI Movie

[Jake Capps]

If the rights just got optioned this movie is years away.

THEGOON.COM is proud to announce that The Goon has been optioned by acclaimed director and producer David Fincher and Academy-Award nominated Blur Studio with Dark Horse Entertainment to develop as a CG animated feature film.

The story link-
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37318

The link to the films of director David Fincher-
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000399/

He seems like a pretty heavy hitter!

[Ambassador Curt]

Jake... you sir... have made my day.

[Pangaea]

I don't know how I feel about this.

I love The Goon, and it will take a lot to live up to the comic.

[Angilas-Man]

F*** YEAH!!!

:biggrin:
I remember a few years ago, when I was in high school, buying up a dozen copies of The Goon 25 cent issue and giving 'em away. Good times.

[Angilas-Man]

....wait, the guy who directed Fight Club and Se7en?!?!


*has heart attack*

[Ambassador Curt]

I don't know how I feel about this.

I love The Goon, and it will take a lot to live up to the comic.

If it gets even close to as good as the comic, it will be a huge success in my book. I'm pretty stoked for it.

[pimpernel]

Oh this is fantasitc news! I love Goon. I love Fincher. Win/win. :biggrin:

[Mack]

* faints *

[Pumpkin King]

Awesome news!

[Jankenstein]

....wait, the guy who directed Fight Club and Se7en?!?!

And Alien 3. :rolleyes:


I'm one of very few people that really doesn't like Fight Club.

[Zombie!!]

not sure how I feel about this. since it's cgi makes me feel tad bit better about it, but i'll hold my judgement.

[InAdia]

Meh, I'd rather see a live action semi-stylized feature, ala Sin City meets Speed Racer, Meets the Spirit. I for one am hoping this project doesn't get off the ground.

The Real Inadia

[MaskedMan]

if there are zombie guts everywhere and knives to the eyes of there enemies i think i will be pleased.

[Todd H]

Meh, I'd rather see a live action semi-stylized feature, ala Sin City meets Speed Racer, Meets the Spirit. I for one am hoping this project doesn't get off the ground.

The Real Inadia

Yeah let's destroy it ala Frank Miller and "The Sinful Spirits City"! Wooohoooo!

Now who to cast for Franky's voice. Danny Devito or Joe Peschi?

[Agent Helix]

Spectacular.

[InAdia]

Yeah let's destroy it ala Frank Miller and "The Sinful Spirits City"! Wooohoooo!

Say what you will but Sin City was more true to the source material than any comic or graphic novel adaptation to date. The Goon is as much about deep interpersonal relationships as it is action and guts. I can't fathom a CGI film being able to replicate the emotional content found in works like Chinatown and The Origin Story unless the CG is top notch, which it most likely won't be (small property = less money thrown in on it). In the end I just don't see how an R- rated, most likely PG-13 version of Monster House is going to convey the complexity of Goon's world.

I will reserve judgment, but when this movie flops it will 86 any chance of ever getting a live action version of The Goon.

Sorry to be a pisser, but that is just how I feel.

The Real Inadia

[Ken O]

Yeah let's destroy it ala Frank Miller and "The Sinful Spirits City"! Wooohoooo!


This made me laugh, but it also makes me very sad.

[Angilas-Man]

Since The Goon is basically Evil Dead meets Popeye the Sailor I think animation is the most natural way to do a movie version.

[petriacce]

Ha, that's great. They can certainly go a couple of ways with this one especially depending on what rating they want on the film.

[gdeo]

this cool news!!!:biggrin:

[InAdia]

Since The Goon is basically Evil Dead meets Popeye the Sailor I think animation is the most natural way to do a movie version.

Thats all fine and good but how many CGI driven films have been made that are Evil Dead at spirit? Last time I checked CGI spells PG-13/Family to the Hollywood execs, who will ultimately decide the fate of the film; and "kiddy" to the general movie going public. We saw what happened with TMNT, how it started off as being a project that would hold true to the tone of the 1980's comics, of which the original fan-base is now all adult, but was ultimately watered down to sell tickets.

Also, in this day and age comic book films go live action, that is what audiences are accustomed to. Do you think that Hellboy would have made the breakthrough that it did had it been entirely CG? Or how about Sin City? 300: anyone? Honestly think about that. The Goon is one of the best unknown comic properties out there and I would rather they go with a style that demonstrates the unique nature of the book (as seen in 300), and thusly creating a unique theater-going experience. I firmly believe that doing something off kilter is the route for them to travel. CGI ends up just being CGI all the way through, which can be boring, bland, generic;same goes for live action; but find a way to meld the two; with a distinct art style on their side; and The Goon will get the public introduction it deserves.


The Real Inadia

[Todd H]

Say what you will but Sin City was more true to the source material than any comic or graphic novel adaptation to date.


Oh no.. Sin City as a movie was great. Sin City as a comic was great. Unfortunately Frank Miller is a one trick pony and that one trick is...Sin City. Whether it's his upcoming butchering of The Spirit or Bat-marv I cringe whevener I hear his name attached to something.

The Goon likely will flop but I don't think it'll be due to the animation. It's just a small property and I'm sure whoever's putting it out won't promote it very well. I hope I'm wrong and it's a huge success.

I'd like to see a live action Goon shot like Sky Captain or even King Kong. Give it that 40's pulpy feel. This way it's got style...but it's not terribly over the top style.

[Kees_L]

Confession: (steady my son)
Have only familiarised ms a little with Eric Powells' Goon. Yet. (I'm not your son, not even your nephew)
But I feel it to be great stuff already and would like the prospect of a good CG movie.

Confession: I wager CG means computer generated?

I'm one of very few people that really doesn't like Fight Club.
'Cause you find the book is way better and one of your faves at that?

Meh, I'd rather see a live action semi-stylized feature, ala Sin City meets Speed Racer, Meets the Spirit. I for one am hoping this project doesn't get off the ground.
1 Confession: I haven't dared watch Sin City yet 'though think the world of mr. Miller (especially for art & feel)
2: Is there a less than real / opposite to real Inadia?

[InAdia]

I'd like to see a live action Goon shot like Sky Captain or even King Kong. Give it that 40's pulpy feel. This way it's got style...but it's not terribly over the top style.

Capital idea.

The Real Inadia

[InAdia]

2: Is there a less than real / opposite to real Inadia?


I have people, on message boards, committing grave acts in my name. The tag differentiates myself from the not to genuine article.

The Real Inadia

[Pangaea]

I don't want this to be CGI at all.

If it was any sort of animation, I'd rather it be stop-motion or claymation, which is beginning to be a lost art.

But I would rather it be live action above all else, pehaps with CGI and weird claymation elements; or as a stylized pulp as in InAdia's example.

It needs to be wacky, Adam's Family cooky, it also needs to be stylish, Stooge's slapstick, violent and filled with "mature content". Their target audience needs to be adults, college students, teens, and the Adult Swim crowd.

[Kees_L]

I have people, on message boards, committing grave acts in my name. The tag differentiates myself from the not to genuine article.

The Real Inadia

If you have them do that as in AI bots with their own avatars though twinned to yours then I am in awe.

If not and you mean annoying bastardy types who you may have trusted, then I ask: are they banned now? Or is it like computerized post-hogging or something? You see I'm like if I'd see such pass by I'd wanna get unfriendly with such, preferably without compromising my member status of course, but still: one should play nice, not? (my interest is genuine and not for vile amusement.)

Anyways pissers are needed, when the day is through and fire needs putting out :wink:.

On Sin City I cannot comment and the Goon I know only for its spectacularly spiffy imagery. And I don't know what CGI will necessarily stand for production-wise. I guess everything could be good both as potentially turn out as crap. But the internet and good promotion (or what I will call fan-participatively design) will have films be getting better and better. So budget cannot say all, can it? And I will now can it :tongue:.

[hellboyone]

You'll at least know that it'll look sensational. Blur does amazing work.

[grizzlelee]

I'm still waiting for someone to make a Hellboy movie that doesn't completely jettison everything that made the comics so damn cool. Let's start with some freakin' atmosphere!

[Kees_L]

I'm still waiting for someone to make a Hellboy movie that doesn't completely jettison everything that made the comics so damn cool. Let's start with some freakin' atmosphere!

Are you really? Well I cannot say that I am. Nope.
Del Toro, who has a new one coming up in two months time already:eek: . I saw some swell cartoons too - with just the right feel for me.

Now for a little holiday, all up north in the cozy town-like state I have for a country :smile:.

[Pangaea]

I'm still waiting for someone to make a Hellboy movie that doesn't completely jettison everything that made the comics so damn cool. Let's start with some freakin' atmosphere!

Numer one, if you say GDT and his team can't create an atmosphere, you my friend are blind. GDT is, if not one of THE best director's on the planet right now.

Number two, I think the film(s) on the Hellboy side of things are working out great. Granted it can't be exactly like the comics or it would be,well, the comic. However, I think it is enough like the comics; the imagery, the characters, the scope, the jargon, etc. to make it the best adaptation of a comic this side of the first Spider Man film. If the Goon film does half as good of a job at GDT's take at Hellboy, I'll be happy.

[grizzlelee]

I know Del Toro is the "hot" guy right now, but I personally don't care for his style of filmmaking. Whatever magic he has just doesn't come through in Hellboy. I also don't care for his "take" on the character (urbanized/modernized/ostracized). Sure, it's a movie and not the comic, but as proven with Sin City, translating the look and the feel of a comic can be done.

Having watched "The Others" last week, I can't help but wonder what a bit of its atmosphere would look like in a Hellboy movie.

[mattmanw54301]

Voice casting should be as follows:
Mickey Rourke as the Goon
Steve Buschemi as Frankie
Lance Henriksen as the Zombie Priest
Seth MacFarlane as Dr. Hieronimous Alloy

[Kees_L]

I know Del Toro is the "hot" guy right now, but I personally don't care for his style of filmmaking. Whatever magic he has just doesn't come through in Hellboy. I also don't care for his "take" on the character (urbanized/modernized/ostracized). Sure, it's a movie and not the comic, but as proven with Sin City, translating the look and the feel of a comic can be done.

Having watched "The Others" last week, I can't help but wonder what a bit of its atmosphere would look like in a Hellboy movie.

Ah, so you like "The Others". That is more positive than explaining how you not like Del Toro (all his movies or just HB). This in a thread on a possible Goon movie, in a thread where there possibly will be some Del Toro tree-huggers (dead ones - the trees I mean!)
Negative can of course be good (better than polaroids) but it sort of reads like 'let's cause a little stirr here with some juicy statementing'.

I watched the neighbour (like 73) mow the lawn one time. I mentioned to her she mowed 'like crap'. She undisturbedly ended the gardening chore without any apparent need for further conversation.
This not to be taken for a juicy statement. It is a porky :smile:.

[grizzlelee]

Sorry if my post came off as a Del Toro hater or a pot stirrer. I was just trying to say that a direct comic to movie translation (as with Sin City) is possible and I would have liked to see that with Hellboy. Guillermo and Mignola thought otherwise.

[Kees_L]

Sorry if my post came off as a Del Toro hater or a pot stirrer. I was just trying to say that a direct comic to movie translation (as with Sin City) is possible and I would have liked to see that with Hellboy. Guillermo and Mignola thought otherwise.

Thanks for posting this grizzlelee, meaning that all is good and thanks for understanding. :smile:

[Pangaea]

Sorry if my post came off as a Del Toro hater or a pot stirrer. I was just trying to say that a direct comic to movie translation (as with Sin City) is possible and I would have liked to see that with Hellboy. Guillermo and Mignola thought otherwise.

You also have to take into consideration; the comic jumps and leaps around. One issue Hellboy is underwater for two years, the other he is in Africa. This really wouldn't translate well to screen, and the american viewing audience is too dumb and won't pay attention if a movie jumps around too much. The reason the comic works is all this history and backstory that a movie only has time to barely touch on, so it must rely on a Cliff's Note re-hashing, imagery, atmosphere, dialogue and action. So when GDT had to make this movie, he needed to adapt it to the screen in the best way he could to stay true to a comic that he actually reads, and to make it palpable to a dumbass zombie american consumerist society.

I'm sorry, but a movie "true" to the comic would be a movie where Prof. Bruttenholm dies in the first thirty minutes, Hellboy goes to four different continents to fight a big monster in each one, multiple cameos by characters unknown to the public repetively calling Hellboy "the beast of the apocalypse", and *no love connection between Liz would not be any sort of success nor well-received.



*In addition to the American public being dumb, we are all also very homophobic; any male character, especially main, that is attached to a female in a movie, it needs to be shown, at the very least, that he is interested in some way or the audience sub-consciously labels him a homosexual and won't like the character or will fail to make a connection with him.

[InAdia]

You also have to take into consideration; the comic jumps and leaps around. One issue Hellboy is underwater for two years, the other he is in Africa. This really wouldn't translate well to screen, and the american viewing audience is too dumb and won't pay attention if a movie jumps around too much. The reason the comic works is all this history and backstory that a movie only has time to barely touch on, so it must rely on a Cliff's Note re-hashing, imagery, atmosphere, dialogue and action. So when GDT had to make this movie, he needed to adapt it to the screen in the best way he could to stay true to a comic that he actually reads, and to make it palpable to a dumbass zombie american consumerist society.

I'm sorry, but a movie "true" to the comic would be a movie where Prof. Bruttenholm dies in the first thirty minutes, Hellboy goes to four different continents to fight a big monster in each one, multiple cameos by characters unknown to the public repetively calling Hellboy "the beast of the apocalypse", and *no love connection between Liz would not be any sort of success nor well-received.



*In addition to the American public being dumb, we are all also very homophobic; any male character, especially main, that is attached to a female in a movie, it needs to be shown, at the very least, that he is interested in some way or the audience sub-consciously labels him a homosexual and won't like the character or will fail to make a connection with him.


All too true. I pray that I don't get a semi-brain dead crowd next week....at any of the showings I go to.


On a side note:

The first Hellboy film had plenty of atmosphere, it was simply a different tone; and since I enjoy both Hellboy and Prague it was a match made in heaven for me. The first 20 and last 30 minutes of the picture were very much true to the comic which in my summation is about half the feature. I can understand the need for direct translation on something like Sin City but Hellboy's world is so rich and bountiful, I wouldn't want the films to dwell on events in his life that have already been told in another medium.

The Real Inadia

[Pangaea]

All too true. I pray that I don't get a semi-brain dead crowd next week....at any of the showings I go to.


Yeah, I hope Hellboy is really well-received and lots of people go see it. However, I fear that a movie like Hancock will be more sucessful than Hellboy. I'm just glad that Hellboy comes out a week before The Dark Knight or NO ONE would see Hellboy, especially on opening night.

[InAdia]

Yeah, I hope Hellboy is really well-received and lots of people go see it. However, I fear that a movie like Hancock will be more sucessful than Hellboy. I'm just glad that Hellboy comes out a week before The Dark Knight or NO ONE would see Hellboy, especially on opening night.

I'm not worried so much about box office as whether or not the film turns out to be good. If it is grand then it will make back its budget and then some. My only worry, if you can call it one, is that the film may be too engaging for the general public who just want to see flicks like Iron Man and the Hulk (short on plot, big on action). Hellboy is about story and character and not so much huge special effects romps which seems to be all that this summer's movie audience cares about.

The Real Inadia

[hellboyone]

Sorry if my post came off as a Del Toro hater or a pot stirrer. I was just trying to say that a direct comic to movie translation (as with Sin City) is possible and I would have liked to see that with Hellboy. Guillermo and Mignola thought otherwise.

I find that direct translations are just...well, boring and unimaginative. Granted, since Sin City was partially directed by Frank Miller, it's fine that it looks so much like the comic book. But any artist, if they have an ounce of creativity in them, will put their own spin on things. If I want to see Hellboy as he is in the comics, I'll read the comics.

And I don't know what movies you've been watching, but Del Toro's movies are dripping with atmosphere. Unless you're being literal, then The Others does have a lot of atmosphere...if you consider atmosphere to be endless amounts of fog. ;)

[Kees_L]

Well Pangaea & Inadia, on American audiences being dumb + homophobic (one tends to result into the other - yelp for that 'unintended' pun; I must be a numbskull too :eek:!):
I don't get that vibe (of the public) on this Board luckily. Same could go for the general CBR forums too I guess, although one would have to read past the more juvenile "I'm way 16+: I f#ck and manage motor vehicles (though not simultaneously)!" posts.
And (remaining dumb myself some more:redface: ) I found myself thinking U.S. citizens - and maybe even Canadian ones - to NEVER cook but for burnt stuff on Thanksgiving... Then I found the beautiful HB recipe thread.
When you're not American it can be good to (re-)acknowledge the fact that dumbness both as any form of (nasty) -phobia can be found anywhere. And with that also 'that what / those who' may oppose to it. So thanks, for making me re-acknowledge once again.

[Pangaea]

Just for the record, I am indeed American, but I am not proud of it, as you could probably tell from my observations.

[InAdia]

Hancock made 185 million this weekend. Colored me worried for The Golden Army.

The Real Inadia

[Kees_L]

... but I am not proud of it, ...
Yes I could tell. And I replied by stating to think that both the (really) jerky as the (injustly) underappreciated will be found anywhere. (An easy answer since it'll be self-fulfilling - like: the bigger the fun, the bigger the spoiling. Still, I think it.

Hancock made 185 million this weekend.

The Real Inadia

Must be the gripping title... :eek: /:tongue:

[Angilas-Man]

Tom Waits for the voice of Buzzard!

[Kees_L]

I find that direct translations are just...well, boring and unimaginative. Granted, since Sin City was partially directed by Frank Miller, it's fine that it looks so much like the comic book. But any artist, if they have an ounce of creativity in them, will put their own spin on things. If I want to see Hellboy as he is in the comics, I'll read the comics.

For comic book movies I tend to think the Batman movie (with Jack Nicholson as the J) may serve as a blueprint, to say that with the rightly distilled / translated comic parts may prove a movie hit-formula.
To which Frank Miller has added by means of 300 especially - that a cool comic feel should be added into key scenes, by having them start of from emphasizedly well-compostitioned points.
If the above makes any or some sense, I might add to say I think GDT put the two together with HB, or his Hellboy trilogy to be precise.