Claremont/Jim Lee's X-Men team from UXM #274-280

[david r]

Any fans of the interesting X-Men lineup that we saw from Uncanny X-Men #274-280? This lineup included:

Storm
Gambit
Wolverine
Jubilee
Psylocke
Banshee
Forge

I liked how this lineup came about. The main X-Men had disbanded and spread out over the whole world. And yet, these mutants slowly came together over difficult circumstances. I have always wished this group had stayed together longer and gone on more adventures. But 1991's X-Men #1 broke this exotic little group up.

So........anyone kind of wished this ragtag band of mutants had stayed together longer? I sure do.

[david r]

This is the lineup I am speaking of:

http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/4images/data/media/188/uxmen275.jpg

[booga]

any lineup with remy and betsy gains my much fluctuating interest

[DDM]

Chris Claremont seemed to want to keep this line-up for some time given the X-Men was in a state of flux since the Outback team was dismantled. I would have liked to have seen more from this group. Jubilee still not trust Psylocke & Wolverine was going insane. Storm is back in her leadership position. And this mysterious new member, Gambit, is a wild card...

Storm's relationship with Forge strengthened & I would have like to seen more of them together as well.

[psycwave]

Yea that team kicked ass it even had some "Outback" elements....

[HeckBoy]

I remember the matching uniforms but I don't remember their adventures so I chose option 3. I like a lot of those characters individually, but I think I'd have to read about them together first b4 deciding whether I want to see them.

[DDM]

I remember the matching uniforms but I don't remember their adventures so I chose option 3. I like a lot of those characters individually, but I think I'd have to read about them together first b4 deciding whether I want to see them.

The team only had two adventures together; the first being against the Warskrulls & rescuing Xavier from them; the second is the Shadow King storyline in which Claremont left as of Uncanny X-Men #278.

[Kage Kisaragi]

I remember as a kid buying an issue that had Storm and Forge kissing on a almost entirely white cover? Does anyone remember this issue? Was it from this particular era?

[Omega Alpha]

Nah, not interested in this line-up at all. Forge & Storm are already boring alone, but together they make Thunderbird III look cool in comparison. Jubilee didn't helped either, and the stories weren't that impressive, IMO.

[Joe Franklin]

I voted yes. But it could be Jim Lee's art that endured me to this lineup of characters, more then the characters themselves. This was also the time when Gambit was the best he's ever been as a character, and Claremont's version of Forge was interesting to me.

[Charybdis4]

Liked this team, with the exception of Jubilee.

She was seriously grade A+ annoying at this time. I just remember that scene during the Skrull arc where her mouth his flapping whilst Gambit is trying to save their backsides. He should have just gift wrapped her for the Super Skrull & be done with it.

Plus this was around the time Betsy constantly said "my psychic knife....focused totality.....etc etc."

[booga]

jim lee makes my dick hard

[psycwave]

jim lee makes my dick hard

okay.....the actual person or his art

[LordAllMighty]

I thought this was a pretty interesting team, which would have been even cooler with Rogue, Havok and Colossus.

[tornshattered]

Storm should have had married Forge instead of that Black Pussycat.

[Omega Alpha]

Storm should have had married Forge instead of that Black Pussycat.

Yeah, and the two of them should remain in Limbo forever...

[tornshattered]

Living happily ever after raising a bunch of kids.

[booga]

okay.....the actual person or his art
wait..he's an artist?

[DDM]

I thought this was a pretty interesting team, which would have been even cooler with Rogue, Havok and Colossus.

Colossus & Rogue became pawns of the Shadow King; however, I believe they would have rejoined the X-Men after being freed from the Shadow King's influence.

[tornshattered]

And Havoc, I think, was on X-Force

[Joe Franklin]

And Havoc, I think, was on X-Force

He led X-Factor, but was never in X-Force.

[DDM]

And Havoc, I think, was on X-Force

Havok remained a Genoshan Magistrate in Genosha; he never rejoined the X-Men, although he did come back to the United States to join X-Factor as its leader. He help rebuild the government & free the remaining mutate slaves.

[Mystique25]

I remember as a kid buying an issue that had Storm and Forge kissing on a almost entirely white cover? Does anyone remember this issue? Was it from this particular era?

I want to say the issue was Uncanny X-men 289, and it was like Scott Lobdell's first or second issue.

[Peeps]

i voted i liked them, it was just after xmen 15 or so that i quit collecting comics, but lee's outter space scenes and drawing of technology was/is amazing

plus he drew one mean colossus

forge sorta took xaviers place as far as a mentor went, and he co-chaired that with banshee. wolverine did not trust gambit and for good reason, and while he did trust betsy, jubilee did not, and she also had a good reason for not trusting her. throw in the adult storm to be the leader of the action and i thought all the angles were covered as far as team dynamics.

i know its cool to say how claremont sucks at characterization, but you will be hardpressed to find any writer out there develope and tell stories over such a period as he did

[B. Kuwanger]

I'd rather the creative team from 274-280 stayed together, but eh, why not.

[Quinnhop]

Never read them, but wish I had been around back then.

*looks at New Warriors*

Oh, Jubes...

[KiplingKat]

Lee and Claremont seemed to have a similar sort of dynamic tension between them that Claremont and Bryne had. You could tell that the two men had different ideas about which way the stories should go and each played off the other resulting in some really great work. (Of course, it also resulting in Claremont losing trust in artists and over explaining everything...but, oh well.)

It makes me think that for Claremont to truly be great, he need less of a collaborator than he does a foil.

[KiplingKat]

Storm should have had married Forge instead of that Black Pussycat.

Totally with you on that. That was the weirdest break up I have ever seen.

[MarvelGirlBoy]

I never liked Jubilee, but I just don't think I'll ever understand Armor as Jubes Mk. 2. I used to hate Banshee, too, but after his death I read him up more and grew love. This team would be nang. Mostly, though, I just want to see Storm leading a team again. With that haircut.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Storm should have had married Forge instead of that Black Pussycat.

oh brother, not this again. Would you marry a woman or man (whatever your preference is) who listened to other people rather than his or her own heart when it came to the matter of whatever or not they think he or she should marry you?

You could blame Jean for their break up, but if you ask me Jean obtained precog powers for a second and realized that Storm could do 10x better and guess what she did...That's one reason why I love Jean, she knew what wouldn't or shouldn't work.

[Kage Kisaragi]

I want to say the issue was Uncanny X-men 289, and it was like Scott Lobdell's first or second issue.

yeah you're absolutely right. ^_^ I wasn't really big into buying comic books back then, but I saw that cover and was like "Wow, thats hot!" *bought* Then I saw the Hulk vs X-Factor with him and Havok going at it, and was like... "That's nice." *bought* ... of course I wouldn't buy another comic until I was in high school but reminiscing is fun.

[Sentou Ryoku]

Those issues brought upon the hotness that was Savage Land Rogue...I was 10 when #274 came out and damn, that cover was light years ahead of it's time in terms of fantastic.

Speaking of which, anyone happen to have a bigger version of this:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa221/SentouRyoku/jlxmasxmen.jpg

[jarrod]

That's one reason why I love Jean, she knew what wouldn't or shouldn't work.
Funny then that she didn't manage to avoid her own epic failure of a marriage. :biggrin:

[psycwave]

Funny then that she didn't manage to avoid her own epic failure of a marriage. :biggrin:

Whoa...BURN PHOENIX BURN!!!!

[For the Good of X]

That team was great, but I'm still partial to the more adult Outback era team. The Claremont/Smith/Romita Jr era team was a family...but the Outback era team was more dynamic, more...adult and I liked it best.

[streator]

this group was okay, but the gold/blue teams that followed were better.

[psycwave]

That team was great, but I'm still partial to the more adult Outback era team. The Claremont/Smith/Romita Jr era team was a family...but the Outback era team was more dynamic, more...adult and I liked it best.

quoted for truth

this group was okay, but the gold/blue teams that followed were better.

The blue team comes in 2nd after the Outback

[tornshattered]

He led X-Factor, but was never in X-Force.

Sorry, the X-titles sometimes confuse me. X-Factor, X-Force and all the other X-F@#k.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Funny then that she didn't manage to avoid her own epic failure of a marriage. :biggrin:

Jean knew that wouldn't either hence Emma is still alive, and she told Scott to move, more like step off.. but none the less. Jeanie is a precog when it comes to relationships.

[Peeps]

oh brother, not this again. Would you marry a woman or man (whatever your preference is) who listened to other people rather than his or her own heart when it came to the matter of whatever or not they think he or she should marry you?

You could blame Jean for their break up, but if you ask me Jean obtained precog powers for a second and realized that Storm could do 10x better and guess what she did...That's one reason why I love Jean, she knew what wouldn't or shouldn't work.

if i recall, forge left before storm actually had the chance, and im picturing it in my mind, so i may be wrong, but it was a white background and she is crying, saying, i was going to say yes

[Colossus77]

I remember as a kid buying an issue that had Storm and Forge kissing on a almost entirely white cover? Does anyone remember this issue? Was it from this particular era?
It was after this period. The one you're talking about is the Blue and Gold teams period.
http://milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=97792366288%20289

[Kage Kisaragi]

if i recall, forge left before storm actually had the chance, and im picturing it in my mind, so i may be wrong, but it was a white background and she is crying, saying, i was going to say yes

yes Forge left because he asked Jean if she thought Storm would accept his marriage proposal and Jean basically said.. No! Forge loses confidence and circumstantially the girl too. Yes Storm would have said yes, but do you think Storm should have eventually run after Forge and propose to him? No, beautiful women don't do things like that to get insecure guys. (trust me I know stuff.)

[Push You Down]

That was my team when I first started really getting into the X-books.... therefore it's one of my favorite lineups.. I would say, the art does play a signifigant part of it.

Forge and Banshee are two of my favorite b-list X-men so having them there was pretty awesome.

[LordAllMighty]

That team was great, but I'm still partial to the more adult Outback era team. The Claremont/Smith/Romita Jr era team was a family...but the Outback era team was more dynamic, more...adult and I liked it best.

The Outback team was a strike team and perhaps the most powerful X-Team without the Phoenix Force on it

You had.....

Storm
Wolverine
Havok
Rogue (Ms. Marvel Powers)
Colossue
Dazzler
Longshot
Psylocke

Bad ass team

[Kage Kisaragi]

The Outback team was a strike team and perhaps the most powerful X-Team without the Phoenix Force on it

You had.....

Storm
Wolverine
Havok
Rogue (Ms. Marvel Powers)
Colossue
Dazzler
Longshot
Psylocke

Bad ass team

would drop Colossus for someone with little bit of vapid motor mouth persona. It's what every team eventually ends up having. Kitty, Jubes, Boom Boom, Surge, you know one of those over opinionated people.

[jarrod]

would drop Colossus for someone with little bit of vapid motor mouth persona. It's what every team eventually ends up having. Kitty, Jubes, Boom Boom, Surge, you know one of those over opinionated people.
Claremont kinda pushed Dazz into this role, with her prima donna persona.


Outback team is still my fave, but I really loved the dynamics of this group too. Just add Rogue and Guido and it'd have been perfect.

[brundlefly]

That team was great, but I'm still partial to the more adult Outback era team. The Claremont/Smith/Romita Jr era team was a family...but the Outback era team was more dynamic, more...adult and I liked it best.

Same here. Overall, I liked the #274-280 era team, with a pair of exceptions (the matching costumes, Jubilee), but I preferred the previous Outback team. A mash-up of the two, essentially adding Gambit, Forge, & Banshee to the Aussie team (minus Longshot, who'd be made redundant by Gambit's inclusion) and then letting them all keep their individual outfits, would have been ideal. Particularly so as the lone X-Men team in the pre-"two or three separate teams of X-Men" days:

Storm
Wolverine
Psylocke
Dazzler
Colossus
Havok
Rogue
Banshee
Forge
Gambit

[knightrunner]

The very first issue of Uncanny I ever read was #273 so I have a very special place in my heart for this team.

On a semi-related note, anyone remember waiting forever for 275 to come out?

[Joe Franklin]

Storm
Wolverine
Psylocke
Dazzler
Colossus
Havok
Rogue
Banshee
Forge
Gambit

This team would be awesome.:cool:

[psycwave]

That team was great, but I'm still partial to the more adult Outback era team. The Claremont/Smith/Romita Jr era team was a family...but the Outback era team was more dynamic, more...adult and I liked it best.

Same here. Overall, I liked the #274-280 era team, with a pair of exceptions (the matching costumes, Jubilee), but I preferred the previous Outback team. A mash-up of the two, essentially adding Gambit, Forge, & Banshee to the Aussie team (minus Longshot, who'd be made redundant by Gambit's inclusion) and then letting them all keep their individual outfits, would have been ideal. Particularly so as the lone X-Men team in the pre-"two or three separate teams of X-Men" days:

Storm
Wolverine
Psylocke
Dazzler
Colossus
Havok
Rogue
Banshee
Forge
Gambit[/QUOTE]

Substitute Jesse Bedlam for Havok and we've got a deal

[For the Good of X]

I think the Outback team worked so well because it was a good mix of personalities, of old favorites and newer characters, old members and new members. There wasn't the Kitty/Jubes/Pixie kid character. It was more adult, more suited to the darker times. Add to that changing up the home base and the whole pro-active stance (going after the Brood finally, Genosha, busting the Reavers and the Marauders, etc.) It was definitely breaking the X-plot mold. I really liked Silversti's work back then, esp. when inked by Rubenstein, Wiacek or Hilary Barta in 243 which I thought was one of his best art issues ever.

[Joe Franklin]

I really liked Silversti's work back then, esp. when inked by Rubenstein, Wiacek or Hilary Barta in 243 which I thought was one of his best art issues ever.

I didn't like any of those inkers over Silvestri's pencils.

Dan Green was the man to ink Silvestri the best on Uncanny.:cool: