Uncanny 500 Preview

[lockerogue]

http://comics.ign.com/articles/883/883853p1.html

It looks like a welcoming/costume party. Is that really Magneto or not?

[Askani's Flame]

http://comics.ign.com/articles/883/883853p1.html

It looks like a welcoming/costume party. Is that really Magneto or not?

It sure looks like him, or someone imitating both his look and powers.

I like the idea of the welcome/costume party though. They're being celebrated for a change.

[RafiShai]

I hope that's Mags, 'cause it seems like a cool moment. But it is a costume party, so that isn't really Colossus, which means it could also be any random TK.

Also, I've already counted two Phoenix Endsongs tracings in Emma, and one in costumed Psylocke. Way to go Land!!!

[Hi-Fi]

Looks to me like Scott and Emma are in the subway and San Fran is having a mutant costume party. But Magneto is the real deal! I love it!

[Mr.EZ]

Nothing like showing respect for the fallen by having a bunch of partygoers dress up like your dead friends, eh Scotty?

If that really is Magneto, I wish him well in his destruction.

[Flameworthy]

Wow, the costumes look so much better when drawn by Land.

[La Fea]

I think this looks pretty awesome.

Its a bit stiff but there's a fierceness to it that'll keep me staying tuned.

I wonder how Land's art would benefit with some moodier coloring and inking.

[jester1436]

Complete LOL at the costumed Marvel Girl.

[darknessatnoon]

Nothing like showing respect for the fallen by having a bunch of partygoers dress up like your dead friends, eh Scotty?

If that really is Magneto, I wish him well in his destruction.

I doubt he assigned people outfits.

[La Fea]

Colossus needs a belt.

[Slyfer]

Surprised I was at Land getting the costume to look so awesome, although his female faces all look the same from far back as Ultimate Fantastic Four and UItimate Power, what did he do cut and paste Emma's head lol. Still I hope this kicks ass!, A MUSS BUY!!!

[frog]

Cyclops is the life of the party, as always!


And Angel most definitely is not blue.

[Gene M.]

I think this looks pretty awesome.

Its a bit stiff but there's a fierceness to it that'll keep me staying tuned.

I wonder how Land's art would benefit with some moodier coloring and inking.
I was gonna Photoshop something together to help answer your question, but I couldn't find a gross enough looking piece of dog crap on Google image search to stand in for Greg Land's "art."

[AcesX1X]

OMG these people have no CLASS!

Jean Grey, Banshee?? It is disrespectful to dress as them! Mockery!

Lord Magnus has returned. May he destroy them all.

[Brett P]

Wow Angel looks fug. The white headpiece is a big no-no.

Are all the random X-Men really well known enough to the general public for people to have full blown costumes? Banshee? Psylocke? The scene is quite amusing anyhow. LOL at the Jubilee...

[rZi]

Looks okay....i just can't help but look at every panel and think "so what did Land steal from this time?"

[Slung]

Is Warren Archangel now...or what? SOOOO confused by that.

And Jean needs to be in this book and kick Magneto's ass.

[Omega Alpha]

I doubt he assigned people outfits.

Oh, you're wrong. Don't you know Cyke is the cause of all problems? He was responsible for the worst tragedies ever: Chernobyl, the Holocaust, The Inquisition, OMD...

[Flameworthy]

I love how it was a man who dressed as Jubilee.

[Askani's Flame]

Is Warren Archangel now...or what? SOOOO confused by that.

I don't know where X-Force falls in continuity with #500. Could be before, could be after.


And Jean needs to be in this book and kick Magneto's ass.

For true!

[Slyfer]

Thats not Warren still.

[timbox]

I hope it's the real Magneto and those 2 at the end are Mystique disguised as Angel, and Omega Sentinel disguised as Nightcrawler!

[tetragene]

that's actually really cool to see a party being thrown where the humans are so enamored with the X-Men that they're actually dressing up as them--very nice change from what we're used to in NYC. I'm really looking forward to the book now--Land based Angel off a hunk, didn't he? :wink:

[Beast]

Makes me wonder if the party is related to some sorta 'X-Men Exhibit' or 'Movie'.

So great though. Colossus compliments an "actor" on his Magneto costume, and then gets punked. :biggrin:

[pryde15]

Oh that looks awesome.

I wish Land would use the costume that Bianchi designed for Angel though, that was my favorite. :frown:

[Novaya Havoc]

Oh that looks awesome.

I wish Land would use the costume that Bianchi designed for Angel though, that was my favorite. :frown:

That IS Bianchi's Angel costume.

Colossus and Angel look like the actual heroes because they have their Bianchi suits.

I am going to die if I don't get moar Dazzler news!

[pryde15]

That IS Bianchi's Angel costume.

Colossus and Angel look like the actual heroes because they have their Bianchi suits.

I am going to die if I don't get moar Dazzler news!

I thought Bianchi's Angel had an oversized Halo on the front? It just looks different lol.

[tetragene]

I thought Bianchi's Angel had an oversized Halo on the front? It just looks different lol.

the sketch did--but the costume in AXM 500 is basically the exact same except no halo and instead there's an "X" badge like everyone else

[lockerogue]

Angel's X badge needs to be white and blue. LOL at guy as Banshee taking the picture.

[MuhollandDriver]

Is that Dazzler next to Colossus? It looks like her outfit..the collar at least.

[Daithi]

that's actually really cool to see a party being thrown where the humans are so enamored with the X-Men that they're actually dressing up as them--very nice change from what we're used to in NYC.

Didn't Claremont do the same thing on his last Uncanny run? Unless you're just talking post M-day with all the doom and gloom stuff for mutants.

[Lucky Luciano]

http://comics.ign.com/articles/883/883853p1.html

It looks like a welcoming/costume party. Is that really Magneto or not?

The return of Magneto at long last. July can't get here fast enough.:evilsmile: :evilsmile: :evilsmile: :

[Will J.]

Is Warren Archangel now...or what? SOOOO confused by that.

According to Lowe and Fraction, X-Force is where that'll be answered for the time being.
(Lord, why do I even post when I keep editing the damn thing?)

[tetragene]

Is that Dazzler next to Colossus? It looks like her outfit..the collar at least.
nah--Fraction said she wouldn't actually appear in the book until #501, but they will discuss her in #500.


Didn't Claremont do the same thing on his last Uncanny run? Unless you're just talking post M-day with all the doom and gloom stuff for mutants.

I wouldn't know--I avoided most of that run like the plague. In any case--I like the X-Men being celebrated instead of hated and slandered

[Lucky Luciano]

Is Warren Archangel now...or what? SOOOO confused by that.

And Jean needs to be in this book and kick Magneto's ass.

She needs to avenge her loss to Xorn before she deals with the real thing. Until then..I wish her well in her adventures in the dark abyss while Magnus makes mincement out of those who ostracized him. Great days are ahead.

[Naela]

At first glance I've only managed to catch the rehashed pose from Endsong with Emma and the Psylocke chick. I'm sure somewhere out there, bloggers are busily going through their scans so they can make comparison gifs.

[Flâneur]

I've just realised something ...

Thanks to X-force, Dazzler and Angel can't hook up. :frown:

[Peter F.]

I've just realised something ...

Thanks to X-force, Dazzler and Angel can't hook up. :frown:

I think he's still making appearances in Uncanny... somehow. So maybe they still can

[fitditz]

I think he's still making appearances in Uncanny... somehow. So maybe they still can
Love should be blind...besides, Dazz has always had an attraction to blue....

[rilokyle]

Oooh the art is pretty.

Are Land and Dodson sharing art duties for the entire story arc? Or just this issue?

[darknessatnoon]

The return of Magneto at long last. July can't get here fast enough.:evilsmile: :evilsmile: :evilsmile: :

Magneto was depowered. That is probably Xorn.

[Lucky Luciano]

Magneto was depowered. That is probably Xorn.

Preview wins.

[Pyro]

I like how there is a picture of a sentinel toy just inserted into the page. Land didn't even bother tracing it.

[brundlefly]

http://comics.ign.com/articles/883/883853p1.html

It looks like a welcoming/costume party. Is that really Magneto or not?

Given the IGN preview's reference to Master Mold & Sentinels and with "Magneto" being both dressed in his classic outfit and inexplicably repowered, maybe its an X-Sentinel. Haven't seen any of those since X-Men #100 in the 70s, so it would be a nice callback to the X-Men's past.

[CmX]

That IS Bianchi's Angel costume.

Colossus and Angel look like the actual heroes because they have their Bianchi suits.

I am going to die if I don't get moar Dazzler news!

Dazz isn't appearing until #501 right? It woulda been so awesome to see her perform for the party! Oh well :(

[DeadXMan]

Didn't Claremont do the same thing on his last Uncanny run? Unless you're just talking post M-day with all the doom and gloom stuff for mutants.

Ah yes Wanabe's.

I seem to remember people hating the idea.
and that's when Davis was drawing it.

and after seeing people doing that the memories of the fallen and missing I too pray Lord Magneto will finsh what Namor started.

[The Black Guardian]

There's no disrespect in dressing like Banshee or Phoenix. That's an honour!

I'm doubtful that's really Our Lord Magneto.

[Bamf25]

They are not showing any of the Dodson pages. I have a direct response from him saying he penciled part of issue 500. It will be interested in how these 2 vastly different styles coexist.

[cgar]

i hope thats the real psylocke. it would be awesome if fraction and bru stole her back to 616 without them knowing lol

[DeniseXfrost]

That actually looks good.

LOL who the eff would dress up as Banshee and Marvel girl?!?!

[ClanAskani]

Yuck. I hate Land's art, and it looks massively decompressed.

[Beast]

i hope thats the real psylocke. it would be awesome if fraction and bru stole her back to 616 without them knowing lol
It can guarentee you 100 percent that it's not.

[Will.S]

Looks decent although I wished Land had a different colorist for once.

[cgar]

It can guarentee you 100 percent that it's not.

i know but thanks for being a buzzkill

[Dazzler]

You know what? I like it! I'm surprised.

And thank GOD there's another SF landmark besides the Golden Gate Bridge.

Colossus is crashing into the Museum of Modern Art, which I just happen to live next door to! :biggrin: Super Hero battle in my backyard!

--Dazz

[Brett P]

Looks decent although I wished Land had a different colorist for once.

On checking the cover to #500 and the Bianchi sketchbook, Warrens head piece is supposed to be blue still, with white piping, not white with blue piping as we have here. So yes, I also wish he had a different colorist! It's sloppy mistakes like this that really make me question quality control...

[Affinity]

LOVE IT. Looks like fun and after weeks of muddy, soiled, stained Bianchi in these costumes, seeing Land do them is fun in the sun.

I could really do without all the piping though. It's so UGLY.

[frog]

I'm just not enamored of Land's art at all. I'm sure it's colored by what I know about where it springs from, but also the espressions on everyone's faces are just ridiculous.

Is Warren supposed to be screaming in excitement or laughing?

[HeckBoy]

And Angel most definitely is not blue.This gives me hope that he will be able to switch back and forth b/w metals and feathers. Of course, it could still be an image inducer but let's hope it isn't.

[steve2275]

lands COLOSSUS looks better than i expected :cool:
and theres nuthing wrong with a classic look on magneto either :tongue:

[Bamf25]

I still struggle with how I feel about Land. I actually think he has talent (covers head), but go look at the stuff he was doing 5 years ago. It is very very different. I just puzzles me why someone that has some talent would go this tracing, bj face route stuff. It is his faces that really bug me, he does this realistic style, then throws these ultra exagerated expressions on them. I just do not know.

[Pach!]

Clearly that's not magneto. It's a costume/welcoming party for the X-men. So obviously some nerd with money got himself a Magneto costume + metal controlling technology to play the villain.

*refuses to believe it's Magneto*

[La Fea]

WHINEWHINEWHINEWHINE.

Wind Dancer rocks!

[Pach!]

WHINEWHINEWHINEWHINE.

Wind Dancer rocks!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/134148-133123-wind-dancer_super.jpg

[CyberHubbs]

I eagerly await the day that you rot in comic book Hell, Land!

That said, I doubt it is Magneto. That's obviously Colossus, though. Or it might even be a dream sequence of some sort.

It is creepy that a few party-goers are dressed up as dead X-Men, but I suppose you could say it's a homage to the departed. Still, who the hell outside of the X-Men knows about Jubilee? I'm surprised they don't have someone dressed as Fishboy.

[Psycwave]

I think the art is rather....decent. I dont hate it but at the same time I dont love it. Idk Land's art has always been a bit touch and go for me.

[La Fea]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/134148-133123-wind-dancer_super.jpg

PLZZZZ GURL regress to not using contractions!

[Pyro]

I thought the real Magneto couldn't control Pete's organic metal anywayz....:confused: Am I wrong?

[ProfeZZor X]

Hands down, I'm going with Cover C...

[steve2275]

the part of emma frost tonight will be played by carmen electra :tongue:

[Pyro]

PLZZZZ GURL regress to not using contractions!"Needn't" is a contraction. An uncommon one, but a contraction, nonetheless.

[La Fea]

"Needn't" is a contraction. An uncommon one, but a contraction, nonetheless.

LOL! I did not even notice that one!

Okay well...Sofia...just start being you again!

[creaky]

There is just no bigger turn-off than Land's art. :frown:

[Novaya Havoc]

As long as Dazzler is smoking hot I do not care what Land traces.

My principles disappear in the presence of a hot Dazzler.

I just request a little Kylie Minogue action.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Gotta love how Cyke seems to have so much fun, lol.

Life of the party indeed.

[CyberHubbs]

Gotta love how Cyke seems to have so much fun, lol.

Life of the party indeed.

He's probably calculating the placement of waiters and when one will be by with a fresh platter of cocktail shrimp.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

He's probably calculating the placement of waiters and when one will be by with a fresh platter of cocktail shrimp.

Actually, current Cyke would probably just wave/holler one over. OR ELSE.

[frog]

I think Cyclops is contemplating blasting the Xavier masquerader who is hitting on Emma.

[jarrod]

Land's work is actually way more palatable than I was expecting... I'm mildly hopeful now.


Still, the Dodsons can't come soon enough... I just wish they were doing Fraction's arcs. :(

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I think Cyclops is contemplating blasting the Xavier masquerader who is hitting on Emma.

He's probably trying to figure out whether he's going to beat up him for dressing up like Xavier or hitting on Ems.

[CyberHubbs]

Actually, current Cyke would probably just wave/holler one over. OR ELSE.

He'd send X-Force after them.

"Finger sandwiches, people. And don't forget to bring the explosives, X-23."

[steve2275]

covers a and c for me
and maybe d

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I want it on the record that I'm still laughing my ass off at Cyke wearing the cowl/hood at a party, lol.

We know he can take off, but he's just *that* devoted to looking like hardassed aloof psycho.

Pure awesome.

[protogarrett]

Nothing like showing respect for the fallen by having a bunch of partygoers dress up like your dead friends, eh Scotty?

If that really is Magneto, I wish him well in his destruction.

Totally agreed.

[LawGiver]

This preview was pretty looking. I know all about Land's art, frankly, I don't care. Does it bother me he overly references/blanatly copies other panels he's done or use other people's pictures/art ... yes, but again, I don't freaking care. I have a life and I have better things to worry about. I hope we don't drift every Uncanny/Land issue into a debate about his art.

I look forward to this issue, looks fun.

Also someone tell me how you can blame Cyclops for the costume designs of some of the guests?

[Optic Rage!]

Also someone tell me how you can blame Cyclops for the costume designs of some of the guests?

Because some people are idiots?

[LawGiver]

Because some people are idiots?

I just think if anything, it's Land showing a lack of respect to the fans of said characters. Course how you can show a lack of respect for a fictional character dying is another thing althought.

[frog]

This preview was pretty looking. I know all about Land's art, frankly, I don't care. Does it bother me he overly references/blanatly copies other panels he's done or use other people's pictures/art ... yes, but again, I don't freaking care. I have a life and I have better things to worry about. I hope we don't drift every Uncanny/Land issue into a debate about his art.



Please don't think that so many of us do not have lives, I can assure you that we do. We also have plenty of deeper concerns but as this forum is not about our families, work, religion, etc., we tend to talk about issues relating to comics, such as an artist coasting on his reputation.

[nikbackm]

I just think if anything, it's Land showing a lack of respect to the fans of said characters. Course how you can show a lack of respect for a fictional character dying is another thing althought.

I think they had to find SOME way to include Banshee (and the other dead X-Men) in #500 since they are on the covers after all.

[LawGiver]

Please don't think that so many of us do not have lives, I can assure you that we do. We also have plenty of deeper concerns but as this forum is not about our families, work, religion, etc., we tend to talk about issues relating to comics, such as an artist coasting on his reputation.

I did not mean to say you do not have a life outside of comics, forgive me. I see no point however in continueing to point out the same flaw over and over again. At some point, like with Brand New Day/Spider-Man, you have to just get over it and discuss the story. How long can we complain about Land?


I think they had to find SOME way to include Banshee (and the other dead X-Men) in #500 since they are on the covers after all.

I feel bad for those few Jubilee fans. That was a guy.

[frog]

I did not mean to say you do not have a life outside of comics, forgive me. I see no point however in continueing to point out the same flaw over and over again. At some point, like with Brand New Day/Spider-Man, you have to just get over it and discuss the story. How long can we complain about Land?





Okay, I accept that. However, paying Land for what others could do so much better irks me, and I will most likely continue to complain. I will discuss the story as well, though.

[nikbackm]

I did not mean to say you do not have a life outside of comics, forgive me. I see no point however in continueing to point out the same flaw over and over again. At some point, like with Brand New Day/Spider-Man, you have to just get over it and discuss the story. How long can we complain about Land?

I guess the the idea is to continue complaining until he stops tracing or someone else stops him?



I feel bad for those few Jubilee fans. That was a guy.

There's simply no pleasing some people. But I am certain the writers (and artists) gave it their best shot.

[LawGiver]

I guess the the idea is to continue complaining until he stops tracing or someone else stops him?



There's simply no pleasing some people. But I am certain the writers (and artists) gave it their best shot.

Joe Q addressed the "issue" on MySpace Cup of Joe, he doesn't care. I just don't want to see this place turn into the Spider-Man board, that's all. Can't his art just be the 800lb elephant in the room no one talks about b/c we all know it's there?

[Pixie_Solanas]

All I can say is that #500 better blow my mind or else i'm dropping Uncanny like a hot sack of cowpatty.

And that would be a shame, since i've stuck with this for so long.

I may be moving onto Legacy, which has been billed as the thinking man's x-book.

[La Fea]

Land's Colossus looks so much better than it did in Endsong. He looks more...approachable? LOL I don't know how to describe it.

[frog]

Joe Q addressed the "issue" on MySpace Cup of Joe, he doesn't care. I just don't want to see this place turn into the Spider-Man board, that's all. Can't his art just be the 800lb elephant in the room no one talks about b/c we all know it's there?
The topic of this thread is the preview pages so really all we have that actually pertains to those pages is the art.

[LawGiver]

The topic of this thread is the preview pages so really all we have that actually pertains to those pages is the art.

Yea I got that part.

I was talking in more general terms. Long term idea.

[darknessatnoon]

Yea I got that part.

I was talking in more general terms. Long term idea.

No one is arguing about Land except for you. Why?

There is even less point in arguing about whether or not we should argue about Land.

[LawGiver]

No one is arguing about Land except for you. Why?

There is even less point in arguing about whether or not we should argue about Land.

Now we're arguing about whether or not I should be arguing about arguing about Land's art.

Any more twists ?

[frog]

I'm sure we'll discuss other things than Land when the issues come out, but Land will be discussed. It's inevitable.

[Joe Franklin]

Okay, I accept that. However, paying Land for what others could do so much better irks me, and I will most likely continue to complain. I will discuss the story as well, though.

For all of the complaints on message boards about Lands art style, his stuff sure sells very well. I wonder why this is? I don't mind his light board drawing style, so I buy his stuff, but 1000's of others must not mind it either because the buy Land's projects like they are going to be collectors items. Go figure?:confused:

[darknessatnoon]

For all of the complaints on message boards about Lands art style, his stuff sure sells very well. I wonder why this is? I don't mind his light board drawing style, so I buy his stuff, but 1000's of others must not mind it either because the buy Land's projects like they are going to be collectors items. Go figure?:confused:

Because it's convenient to masturbate at.

[frog]

For all of the complaints on message boards about Lands art style, his stuff sure sells very well. I wonder why this is? I don't mind his light board drawing style, so I buy his stuff, but 1000's of others must not mind it either because the buy Land's projects like they are going to be collectors items. Go figure?:confused:

Land's art is pretty at first glance. It's only after you look at it for a little while that you start to realize the poses are either static or inappropriate and the expression are incongrous. We, the more serious fans, notice this things quicker than the casual browser. Most of the sales are probably to newer readers.

[tetragene]

I hope future UXM don't turn into a typical Land image witch hunt, lol. It can be good for a laugh--and really, Joe Q should put his foot down about it (particularly the direct copying of other artists and PORN poses/faces)--but he won't and Land's work sells--so no use cryin' of spilt milk.

Also... if Legacy is a "thinking man's" comic book then I am King of Wakanda...

SNOREFEST!!!

[Joe Franklin]

Land's art is pretty at first glance. It's only after you look at it for a little while that you start to realize the poses are either static or inappropriate and the expression are incongrous. We, the more serious fans, notice this things quicker than the casual browser. Most of the sales are probably to newer readers.

I think most comic book fans know that Land uses a light box when drawing his pages, but I don't think they care. Land does a decent job with his page layouts and storytelling, and I think this is the only thing that most fans care about in the end.

[darknessatnoon]

I think most comic book fans know that Land uses a light box when drawing his pages, but I don't think they care. Land does a decent job with his page layouts and storytelling, and I think this is the only thing that most fans care about in the end.

It is also cheaper than buying porn. And more convenient since you can get porn+comic at the same time.

VIVA LAND!

[brundlefly]

Because it's convenient to masturbate at.

Sounds like that could get fairly messy....



if Legacy is a "thinking man's" comic book then I am King of Wakanda...

For real? Nice to meet you then, T'Challa. I sure wish your book had a better creative team. :biggrin:

[Pixie_Solanas]

I hope future UXM don't turn into a typical Land image witch hunt, lol. It can be good for a laugh--and really, Joe Q should put his foot down about it (particularly the direct copying of other artists and PORN poses/faces)--but he won't and Land's work sells--so no use cryin' of spilt milk.

Also... if Legacy is a "thinking man's" comic book then I am King of Wakanda...

SNOREFEST!!!

Hello T'Challa!

Well, I may be a bit generous with that "thinking man's" terms. How about the best of a sorry lot?

Uncanny's doing nothing but padding time. And i'm sick of it.

[streator]

looks okay. i'm assuming that the x-men are blending in to a costume party that's celebrating their arrival in san francisco for whatever reason.i'm not crazy about land or the new looks, though.

[Omega Alpha]

Also someone tell me how you can blame Cyclops for the costume designs of some of the guests?

Like I said before, Scott is to blame for all the big tragedies that ever happened, such as Chernobyl, the Holocaust and OMD.


Because some people are idiots?

This answer is also accurate.

[Cruelly_Innocent]

the Emma on the cover looks quite different from the one on the inside pages but at least the "Emmas" from those pages look similar and have the same hair

but I must admit I just adore San Francisco Now..finally we can leave that whole "everyone hate us" thing..

Oh and while I don't like colossus new costume I do like Angel's..and maybe it will look somewhat better with a different artist


I'm so psyched for the (possible) return of powered Eric :biggrin:

[steve2275]

Land's Colossus looks so much better than it did in Endsong. He looks more...approachable? LOL I don't know how to describe it.sounds good ta me

[ClanAskani]

Ummm, something isn't making sense to me.

The X-Men leave Westchester since it has a big bullseye on it, all their enemies keep attacking them and killing them. So, they head to San Francisco---- where everyone knows they are there, they live in the open and the public throws them a big party????

What exactly does this accomplish? I understand the X-Men going into hiding and pretending to have disbanded so that mutants can be protected. But it's ridiculously stupid for them to give their forwarding address to their enemies.

X-Force may be going after the Purifiers, but if San Francisco is a mutant sanctuary city, wouldn't that move the bullseye from Westchester to San Francisco? I doubt the Purifiers or anyone wanting to target the X-Men are going to worry about taking out a whole city of mutant sympathizers.

[Pro]

So, they head to San Francisco---- where everyone knows they are there, they live in the open and the public throws them a big party????

Yup, exactly what strikes me as rather idiotic about this move as well. I wonder how long it will be before the people of san francisco will have second doubts about rejecting the Initiative once the first mutant battle takes place in their backyard.

Personally i was rather hoping that if they had to go through with the whole struggle for survival thing that we'd get something more akin to the Outback era with the x-men holed up in some hard to find location rather than participate in a parade and publically give the SHRA the middle finger. Doesn't make sense to me at all.

[Askani's Flame]

Yup, exactly what strikes me as rather idiotic about this move as well. I wonder how long it will be before the people of san francisco will have second doubts about rejecting the Initiative once the first mutant battle takes place in their backyard.

Personally i was rather hoping that if they had to go through with the whole struggle for survival thing that we'd get something more akin to the Outback era with the x-men holed up in some hard to find location rather than participate in a parade and publically give the SHRA the middle finger. Doesn't make sense to me at all.

Yup. Also isn't the fact that they are in San Fran an unknown entity that the Skrulls have to deal with in the upcoming mini? How would they not be prepared if it's all over the news that they haved moved to San Fran? Am I missing something?

[Psycwave]

Yup, exactly what strikes me as rather idiotic about this move as well. I wonder how long it will be before the people of san francisco will have second doubts about rejecting the Initiative once the first mutant battle takes place in their backyard.

Personally i was rather hoping that if they had to go through with the whole struggle for survival thing that we'd get something more akin to the Outback era with the x-men holed up in some hard to find location rather than participate in a parade and publically give the SHRA the middle finger. Doesn't make sense to me at all.

The Outback days*drools*those were some of the best days in x men history IMO

[Slung]

Ummm, something isn't making sense to me.

The X-Men leave Westchester since it has a big bullseye on it, all their enemies keep attacking them and killing them. So, they head to San Francisco---- where everyone knows they are there, they live in the open and the public throws them a big party????

What exactly does this accomplish? I understand the X-Men going into hiding and pretending to have disbanded so that mutants can be protected. But it's ridiculously stupid for them to give their forwarding address to their enemies.

X-Force may be going after the Purifiers, but if San Francisco is a mutant sanctuary city, wouldn't that move the bullseye from Westchester to San Francisco? I doubt the Purifiers or anyone wanting to target the X-Men are going to worry about taking out a whole city of mutant sympathizers.


Yup, exactly what strikes me as rather idiotic about this move as well. I wonder how long it will be before the people of san francisco will have second doubts about rejecting the Initiative once the first mutant battle takes place in their backyard.

Personally i was rather hoping that if they had to go through with the whole struggle for survival thing that we'd get something more akin to the Outback era with the x-men holed up in some hard to find location rather than participate in a parade and publically give the SHRA the middle finger. Doesn't make sense to me at all.

Stop using logic! It ruins it for the rest of us!

[Imraith Nimphais]

hmmm...now that you've mentioned it...I very much liked the "outback" X-men, quite, and their reason for their isolationist stance made much sense back then, as opposed to thier current MO...which almost-kinda-sorta-but-not-really make as much sense (depends on where the writer's are taking this)...as for the Land issue goes...I'm more or less resigned to the fact...(as graphicartist/designer, I do understand...to an extent...I have been INSPIRED by the works of other artists...but I have traced MY OWN previous work)...my peeve with Land is mainly about the details...yes you are tracing, but Emma is very different from Ororo, why give them BOTH the same just-got-out-of-bed-after-a-hot-night-with-my-man hair? They are all vastly different characters with different features...why use the same expressions/face throughout from one character to the next?...yes you are tracing, but, for God's sake re-position the head, the arms, a leg, a finger...re-position SOMEthing so that it looks different and not just a rote, mindless copy...it's all in the DETAILS and how you execute them.

[KiplingKat]

A. Guy in Banshee costume: Muy tacky! How would you react to that if you were an X-Man? Not all smiles, I can guarantee that.

B. That had better NOT be Magneto.

Not only would retuning Mags stock villainy go against all of his distant and recent characterization and continuity ("My own daughter ripped my entire life from me and and created my worst nightmare...so I think I'll go beat up on the X-Men like the Silver Age doofus I was 30+ years ago", tell me how much sense that makes?) but that isn't even how he acts when he is playing the villain.

He would not wander into a party unannounced and then beat up on Petey, he would rip the roof off the building and make a huge pronouncement.

Then he would beat up on anyone who came at him.

Given Lady M is still out there, I'm still calling this for: "Illusion".

It had better be.

(If worse comes to worse I suppose, and Bru-Fact have decided to be dorks about it, then we have Bendis as our ace in the hole. Him, I trust with the character, and he can make this Magneto a skrull.)

[Novaya Havoc]

Bah. Haters.

Mutants being popular in San Francisco is a part of the DAZZLEANCHE we will all experience going into 2009. She's going to Grand Marshall the gay pride parade. Trust.

It's going to be so fabulous. Pixie is going to be such the little yuppie! I hope she gets a tiny dog and names it "Wolvie"!

[steve2275]

The Outback days*drools*those were some of the best days in x men history IMO
i will agree with said opinion