How does BND fit in with the rest of the Marvel Universe?

[Darth Dizzt]

I've been reading ASM for about a year now. I'm fairly new to the comic book scene - and I just can't quite figure out how this whole OMD BND stuff is supposed to fit in with the rest of the Marvel universe - particularly the avengers.

Now with the whole Secret Invasion craze I'm wondering if all of this ASM craziness is somehow skrull related - but I find it hard to believe they would go so long in a weekly setting it up for that. We'll see - kinda confused but sticking with it....

I'm new btw - first post here....

[Mister Mets]

Welcome to the board, Darth Dizzt

BND's pretty much supposed to occur in the present day Marvel Universe. Spider-Man's appearances in New Avengers since he started wearing the red & blue costume again should be post-BND.

I doubt the ASM craziness is Skrull related due to the inflexibility of the book's schedule, which makes tie-ins to crossovers difficult to manage. Spider-Man's role in Secret Invasion will be explored outside of Amazing Spider-Man in a separate mini-series (called Spider-Man: Secret Invasion).

[dademan]

Welcome to the board, Darth Dizzt

BND's pretty much supposed to occur in the present day Marvel Universe. Spider-Man's appearances in New Avengers since he started wearing the red & blue costume again should be post-BND.

I doubt the ASM craziness is Skrull related due to the inflexibility of the book's schedule, which makes tie-ins to crossovers difficult to manage. Spider-Man's role in Secret Invasion will be explored outside of Amazing Spider-Man in a separate mini-series (called Spider-Man: Secret Invasion).

Acually its Spider-Man: Secret Invasion - Brand New Day...though its just a minor difference.

[littlemaths]

I they've said that the continuity will be filled in, though, haven't they?

[BlackToe]

I they've said that the continuity will be filled in, though, haven't they?

Its in the process now throughout each arc of the individual writers.

[Mister Mets]

I they've said that the continuity will be filled in, though, haven't they?
But that's still not going to explain how Spider-Man's 100 day absence tied into the New Avengers. Or how One More Day Part 1 occurred a few days after Civil War, despite all the stories in between (including every New Avengers story with the black costume).

Those will most likely remain strings you're not supposed to pull.

[ZT4]

But ought to for the sake of respecting the fans and maintaining creativi...OOOOOOHHH:rolleyes:

[mikekerr3]

BND's timeline is post-Secret Invasion, the real Spider-Man is inactive during this period

Mainly the fans are learning more and more that any good ideas for plot twists that can restore the credibility of every character tarnished over the past ten years has been skipped over in favour of the same old shit for your hard-earned money.


Then what is spidey doing it the Savage land?

BND doesn't fit well because the writers and editors were too incompetent or too lazy to try to make it fit.

They put in months of Spidey being off and still have him in int avengers and tying into the Skrull invasion which is about Three months after the civil war. This was suposedly all planed out well in advance and the still goofed it up.

[DeadXMan]

the only thing that was in continuity was nextwave, everything else are skrulls and lies.

[Will.S]

Since BND is planned way more in advance than when Spider-Man had a monthly schedule there doesn't seem to be any allowances to tie into major events or reference very current continuity from other books.

Instead they put out specials or mini's to deal with them such as with the Secret Invasion Brand New Day issues. It seems like a good middle ground but it's still really hard to place the exact continuity between the Spider-Man books and the New Avengers given the gap in months. It's best to treat Spider-Man as it's own stand alone thing from the NA stuff and not to worry too much about it fitting with other books although it can get potentially confusing if it went out of hand.

[DeadXMan]

don't worry about it
Spidey is nowhere near wolverine level of continuity problems

[Dr. Chaos]

I've been reading ASM for about a year now. I'm fairly new to the comic book scene - and I just can't quite figure out how this whole OMD BND stuff is supposed to fit in with the rest of the Marvel universe - particularly the avengers.

Now with the whole Secret Invasion craze I'm wondering if all of this ASM craziness is somehow skrull related - but I find it hard to believe they would go so long in a weekly setting it up for that. We'll see - kinda confused but sticking with it....

I'm new btw - first post here....
I don't know why you would think that, my friend.

Like Captain America, it's just following the beat of it's own drum, telling it's own story. You don't think that book is skrully, do you? :wink:

Right now, the writers are concentrated on making an effort to rebuild the core spidey universe and it's supporting cast. Though like with the upcoming Daredevil appearance and mention of JJJ's heart attack in Ms. Marvel and mention of the "DB" in Avengers/Invaders, you'll still be seeing Spidey acting within the greater marvel universe like he did with Wolverine a couple of months ago. And like every super hero thats been a part of an all star team with his own ongoing, he just finds time for it. Thats the best comic book explanation you'll ever get about that.

It's really quite simple.

[Mister Mets]

don't worry about it
Spidey is nowhere near wolverine level of continuity problemsThis is true. No one asked how the two months Wolverine spent getting tortured in Wolverine #56 (great standalone issue for the character btw) tie into New Avengers or the rest of the X-books.

[yadadaimhollaing]

This is true. No one asked how the two months Wolverine spent getting tortured in Wolverine #56 (great standalone issue for the character btw) tie into New Avengers or the rest of the X-books.

Or when he was tortured in russia with collossus and night crawler during the current uncanny xmen arc :) unless that's the same thing ;).

[Cyclopsj316]

This is true. No one asked how the two months Wolverine spent getting tortured in Wolverine #56 (great standalone issue for the character btw) tie into New Avengers or the rest of the X-books.

perhaps fans don't care as much about wolvies continuity mess, as they do with spidermans mess. Perhaps, this time they went to far, and more fans are up in arms over spideys never ending BND continuity mess. Yeah. that sounds about right.

[Cyclopsj316]

Question: How does BND fit in with the rest of the Marvel Universe?

Answer: It doesn't. It's as simple, and sad as that. Fans, and writers have tried to make sense, and nobody can make it stick. You'd think writers would have a handle on the books, but alas...

" This is Spart... * i mean * BND !!! "

[mikekerr3]

I don't know why you would think that, my friend.

Like Captain America, it's just following the beat of it's own drum, telling it's own story. You don't think that book is skrully, do you? :wink:

Right now, the writers are concentrated on making an effort to rebuild the core spidey universe and it's supporting cast. Though like with the upcoming Daredevil appearance and mention of JJJ's heart attack in Ms. Marvel and mention of the "DB" in Avengers/Invaders, you'll still be seeing Spidey acting within the greater marvel universe like he did with Wolverine a couple of months ago. And like every super hero thats been a part of an all star team with his own ongoing, he just finds time for it. Thats the best comic book explanation you'll ever get about that.

It's really quite simple.

It's quite simple that Spider-man if fighting Srull in the SI and will be on vacation for months, before BND starts and after the SI ends but will be fighting Skrulls in a BND tie-in. I

ts not finding time for it ASM 545 said he was not doing it and that he had not been in the uniform. It's having many issues in uniform in Marvels biggest Event and having his own book say he was on vaction during that time. Quite simply stupidity.

It is quite simple Dan Slott and the "Brain Trust" messed up big time, They can't even explain why a sudden unknown is now trusted in the NA, or how Strange could be PWND so easily. Quite simply a lead writer that does not care about continuity in the least and no editor editing.

Slot Continuty in the Initiative is worse though, 1 year of training and a graduation in less than 3 weeks MU time.