If the next Marvel event involves Mephisto...

[Mister Mets]

There's been some speculation that the 2009 Marvel event might involve Mephisto. If so, what do you guys think the story will be?

And what creative team would you like to see handle it?

[Will.S]

I don't really care for anything involving Mephisto anymore.

[Samuraixsithlord]

Sounds interesting.


I'd like to see a supernatural type cross-over event

[Jimmy Holograph]

I heard that Marvel weren't planning on doing a massive event next year...

but sales will always change that. Mephisto? Yeah I'll pass.

[Monty_Cristo]

in other news, Dr.Doom has made alliances with Morgan LeFey and Loki.

[La Fea]

He should repower the mutant population.

Crossover of crossovers!

Creative team: C.B. Cebulski and David Yardin.

[Will.S]

in other news, Dr.Doom has made alliances with Morgan LeFey and Loki.
This on the other hand, I like.

As for what the event might be, I suppose with all that Mystic Arcana stuff and Magik coming back they're gearing up for some big magic event with some of these characters and Mephisto.

[yadadaimhollaing]

Well if there's a mephisto event next year how about jms penciled by jr jr :evilsmile:

[Titanium]

Logically the next event should be a supernatural one, and Mephisto would be best to be the main villain behind it.

Because who better than the friggin' devil?

And then friggin Doctor Doom will be the hero of the day due to his feud with the devil.

[Spiffy]

Mephisto has been kind of ruined for me, even if I haven't totally abandoned Spidey.

Joey is just looking to retroactively bolster his earlier direction with this, I think.

[steve2275]

Well if there's a mephisto event next year how about jms penciled by jr jr :evilsmile:
call me sold

[Abrojo]

About damn time Mephisto started taking a more hands on approach.
I would buy that.

Though i wouldnt buy another heroes against heroes again (be it by manipulation from Mephisto, etc). CW and SI already worked that approach hard.

[fudgekp]

There's a fair amount of mystic heroes that have taken somewhat of a back burner - or haven't been developed enough. I think something involving them would be pretty good.

Satana, for example. Daughter of Mephisto, high level mage, can kill with a kiss, gains power from weapons by absorbing their energy - she'd be great.

It could even be Mephisto bringing a supernatural army to bear against earth - Vampires, demons, the lot...I think it'd be good.

[Magneto Rocks]

I heavily, heaivly doubt it will and hope it doesn't.

If it did though, it should just consist of Doctor Doom beating the crap out of him repeatedly, because no-one but no-one- Spidey and friends included- has anywhere near as much to be pissed off at Mephisto about than Victor.

[drwho]

The problem with Mephisto is he is a cosmic level being. Why in the hell would he want to just take over Earth? He gets souls without even trying? Mephisto in my opinion does not have decent enough motivation. I could understand maybe messing around with a hero, or two, or maybe trying to collect heroes souls, but can not see why he would care about normal people that he gets an automatic supply of anyway. If anyone should be a villain it should be Dormammu cus he has a history of trying to take over the Earth.

[marshal99]

I heavily, heaivly doubt it will and hope it doesn't.

If it did though, it should just consist of Doctor Doom beating the crap out of him repeatedly, because no-one but no-one- Spidey and friends included- has anywhere near as much to be pissed off at Mephisto about than Victor.

Doom does get messed about a bit by supernatural entities , Mephisto used to mess with him when he had Doom's dear old mom's soul , Nightmare also in the past messed around with Doom by giving him nightmares.

If there's a marvel supernatural event ,let daimon hellstrom be the big evil. He has straddled between good and bad in the past , while helping some heroes with trying to solve some mystery of a supernatural nature , he would stabbed them in the back and killed 1 or 2 minor heroes , trapped dr. strange and announced himself as being his father's son , turning completely evil. :wink:

[Dark Soul # 7]

in other news, Dr.Doom has made alliances with Morgan LeFey and Loki.And Namor is living with Vic.

Just think of the parties they must have.

[HeckBoy]

Meh, magic/mystic-based characters have never been my particular cup of tea. Civil War and its aftermath brought me back into the wider Marvel U, but a magic-based event would likely drive me to hole up in the X-Universe again until it was over (excluding any tie-ins anyway).

[shades of eternity]

If they are going to do this cross over there are a number of characters that must play a prominant role:

1. Spidey (after this omd garbage, this would be a good way to use it effectively)
2. Dr. Doom (hell, I'd kinda prefer it to be him who ends up saving the day that is quinitisentially doom).
3. Ghost Rider (how can you have mephisto and not have the rider involved).

heck other characters that could play a prominant role are blackheart, doctor strange, and I'm sure we can find others.

As for a story arc, it's fairly simple to setup.

It was basically in contract that mephisto had a hands off dealing with earth, however, thanks to a certain percentage, he can now release hell on earth.

This could also be a great source of using those 50 state initiative people to set stuff up and see how well they work against a demonic invasion.

[CMBMOOL]

If the next event features Mephisto as the main villain, then I'll look into it on the fact that it connects back to OMD and can save Spidey from fallen graces. :frown:

[Nefarius]

If the next event features Mephisto as the main villain, then I'll look into it on the fact that it connects back to OMD and can save Spidey from fallen graces. :frown:

My thoughts exactly.A marvel-wide crossover involving Mephisto is a good chance to bring Spidey continuity back to its pre-OMD days.

[Magneto Rocks]

My thoughts exactly.A marvel-wide crossover involving Mephisto is a good chance to bring Spidey continuity back to its pre-OMD days.

"MWAHAHAHAHAHA! Back to sales still falling continuously but this time WITHOUT people scrutinising them and pretending they weren't falling before!"

[Britannic]

PAD on one of his last stories in his long Hulk run mentioned the Hell on Earth war. He mentioned it a few times actually. Maybe that is the Story for next year.

[Monty_Cristo]

I heavily, heaivly doubt it will and hope it doesn't.

If it did though, it should just consist of Doctor Doom beating the crap out of him repeatedly, because no-one but no-one- Spidey and friends included- has anywhere near as much to be pissed off at Mephisto about than Victor.

that's debatable. Mephisto didn't force his mother to deal in black magic. her soul rightfully belonged to him. Victor can cry about it all he wants. i'd say that Mephisto actually actually has the right the get some payback against Doom. no one cheats the devil.

[Chiasm]

I just hope it at the end somehow involves Spidey getting his memories back. They can kill MJ in the process for all I care if their single Spidey is so important just so long as I don't feel like my 30 years of Spidey fandom mean nothing now.

[StumboTheGiant]

I think the next big event will have Sentry go crazy and go agaist the heroes.

[marshal99]

With Joe Q in charge , you'll never know. He'll probably have a company wide event involving supernatural characters , superhero characters on earth , a event in outer space , a event in inner space , a event in negative space etc , he'll have 50 crossover event running at the same time , with every book crossovering with one of the multi-crossovers and marvel fantatics, being who they are , will just throw money at him and buy more books and Joe Q will be cackling in his office , counting his money.

[Abrojo]

will just throw money at him and buy more books and Joe Q will be cackling in his office , counting his money.

That would mean he is doing his job right, thats what they pay him for :)

[Hatut Zeraze]

I skipped Civil War. I am taking a pass on Secret Invasion. If Bendis or Millar write the next big event, I anticipate not being interested.

If the reins were turned over to Dan Slott or Matt Fraction, I'd buy whatever crossover those guys wanted to write. It is time for a new flavor.

[CyberHubbs]

I wouldn't be surprised if the next big event is a supernatural one. The pieces are all there: Magik looking to re-discover her soul; Mephisto picking up evil points from his deal in Spider-Man; Son of Satan in Last Defenders...

Be a good time for the Midnight Sons to get rollin' in the new millennium.

[Siddon]

I don't think Mephisto is going to wind up as the big bad for the Avengers I think Mephisto will tie into Eternals/Guardians/Runaways/Nova, those are going to be the titles that will need a boost, I can see that being the next Annhilation.

[mcgaffer]

I can see the scene now. Spider-Man's at home watching the supernatural events around the world unfold while outside the sky is burning. When Spider-Man's front door get blown off it's hinges. There in the doorframe, leaning on each other for support, are Dr.Strange and Dr.Doom. They've been practically beaten to death. Only getting away by sheer dumb luck. Strange looks Peter in the eye, 'Think very carefully how you answer this Peter! What did you do?'

There's a lot of loose ends magicwise in the Marvel Universe and a big event would tie them together nicely. Mephisto and Peter. Loki and Peter. Ghost Rider and satan. Strange is currently down for repairs. Doom's still got several Lords of hell after his blood. Thor needs a big event to get into.

That's the team for me.
Spider-Man.
Dr.Strange.
Ghost Rider.
Dr.Doom.
Thor.

There's lots of potential players to come into this one. Morgan Le Fay. Diablo. Hercules. Satanna. Scarlet Witch. Brother Voodoo. Daimon Hellstrom. Blackheart. Blade. Dracula. Dormammu. Margali Szardos. Amanda Sefton. Storm. Belasco. Magik. Lilith, Mother of all Demons. Surtur. Werewolf By Night. Morbius. Forge. Shaman. Selene. Juggernaut. Red Sonja. Papa Hogg. Baron Mordo. Loki.

But if they don't go with Mephisto, i would like my favourite magician to take center stage Kulan Gath.
Mind you, I think Selene could hold together a big event. And when does Loki get to be centre stage again? Im looking forward to a big mystical event. Bring on the Mystical Avengers.

[matthewaos]

I would like to see a magic/supernatural event, including Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, Demogoblin, Mephisto, Blackheart, Blade, Morbious and such. Sacasa had something he was working on. I wonder what it is.

[Kirayoshi]

I had a weird idea recently; What if Mephisto were to offer a deal similar to One More Day to other heroes?

What would Iron Man give up to save Happy Hogan?

What would Colossus give up to save Kitty?

What would Sharon Carter give up to save Steve?

What would Daredevil give up to save Milla?

I've maintained that there was more to Mephisto's screwing with Spider-Man than just getting off on some minor torture(and Joe Q's desire for for Peter to be single). That, plus last year's Mystic Arcanna mini and Marvel Tarot one-shot, Dr. Strange's powers going wonko, Ian McNee being postitioned as the new Sorcerer Supreme, the whole Doom/Morgana thing in that Iron Man mini, I can see that adding up to the next major event.

Whether it will be readable is another thing. The record thus far does not promise.

[shades of eternity]

a good crossover should have the following:
1. To tell a great story.
2. a chance of great character development. Some characters should be altered and be different then when it began.
3. A great oppertunity for repackaging characters. I'm not saying you should do the a-listers in such a manner, but this could be a great chance to develop and make a character who has been marginalized to the mainstream. For the above concept, this could be an excellent chance to make ghost rider more mainstream, and/or develop a more well known rogues gallery in the process.
4. be a great introduction to the marvel universe. I got hooked when they did AOA and
5. be a base for great stories for years to come. Not everything has to be resolved, and a few loose ends could help keep the story.

Another crazy idea for this crossover concept is a way to recycle elements of an old horror movie and/or take advantage of the 50 states initiative.

Have one of the less busy states (say nebraska or idaho) play a prominant part.

have the local 50 states initiative group be really green and inexperienced, and because of it, they mess up, but are ultimately responsible for dealing with containment of this situation.

This could have the feel of a horror movie as they have to search through a town that has become deserted and could really play up the creepiness.

plus develop a few new characters/repackage them in the processs.

[CyberHubbs]

a good crossover should have the following:
1. To tell a great story.
2. a chance of great character development. Some characters should be altered and be different then when it began.
3. A great oppertunity for repackaging characters. I'm not saying you should do the a-listers in such a manner, but this could be a great chance to develop and make a character who has been marginalized to the mainstream. For the above concept, this could be an excellent chance to make ghost rider more mainstream, and/or develop a more well known rogues gallery in the process.
4. be a great introduction to the marvel universe. I got hooked when they did AOA and
5. be a base for great stories for years to come. Not everything has to be resolved, and a few loose ends could help keep the story.

Another crazy idea for this crossover concept is a way to recycle elements of an old horror movie and/or take advantage of the 50 states initiative.

Have one of the less busy states (say nebraska or idaho) play a prominant part.

have the local 50 states initiative group be really green and inexperienced, and because of it, they mess up, but are ultimately responsible for dealing with containment of this situation.

This could have the feel of a horror movie as they have to search through a town that has become deserted and could really play up the creepiness.

plus develop a few new characters/repackage them in the processs.

Ghost Rider has been propped up several times over the years, but he just can't lead a Big Event these days. He can barely keep his own title afloat. I like me some Spirit of Vengeance, but he's not star material.

And there is something happening soon with Florida's Initiative team that has them opposing the Zombie-verse. Nexus of Realities an' all that.

[Trey]

Greg Pak and Fred Van Lente writing with art by Mike Deodato jr.

Mephisto is not happy with Dr. Doom, Morgan Le Fay, and Loki forming an alliance against the heroes. He gets Belasco to incite chaos (brings in Magik and some of the X-men into the event) and work with him. If the heroes are beaten by Doom's Cabal, Mephisto loses out on some very rich and noble souls, since a defeated soul is not as nourishing if you defeat it yourself.

Lurking around the edges, the spiritual form of Thanos and Death, waiting for the opportunity to strike.

Heroes with major roles: Thor and his Asgardian brethren, Dr. Strange and his magical allies, Iron Man (reconcilliation with Thor), Spiderman, Scarlet Witch (her return), Ms Marvel, Black Knight (along with Ian Mcnee and other magic-users from MI13), The F4, Magik, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, and a few of the younger X-men (Pixie and others from the Magik arc of last year by Kyle and Yost)

Others involvement: Ghost rider, Moon Knight, Ares, Hercules and Cho, other Marvel supernatural/horror heroes that are way cool, but have not made appearences. Subplot: Quest to Hell, where they encounter demons and devils, along with Pluto and Hela.

Wild card: Namor and his Atlanteans. Atlantean magic)

As you can see, its huge. SO we will go 7 issues. I would tie all these together. X-men, Thor/Loki, Dr. Strange, the trip to Hell and/or other dimensions, Doom and F4 (Maybe teaming up to repel Mephisto, and than Doom turning on everyone at the end)

Final battle: Doom, Morgan, Loki (reverts to man, maybe at the end?) and the return of Thanos vs. Thor, Dr. Strange and the Scarlett Witch and the F4, with an assist from IM and the avengers, and Spidey.

I would not retcon OMD here, I would move the story forward, hinting at those events. Even though its magic, it happened. And the story has to progress with that to make narrative sense and not invalidate the events prior to OMD. It can't be ignored.

[Ptrvc]

The problem with Mephisto is he is a cosmic level being. Why in the hell would he want to just take over Earth? He gets souls without even trying? Mephisto in my opinion does not have decent enough motivation. I could understand maybe messing around with a hero, or two, or maybe trying to collect heroes souls, but can not see why he would care about normal people that he gets an automatic supply of anyway. If anyone should be a villain it should be Dormammu cus he has a history of trying to take over the Earth.

Seriously, besides Mephisto is more caught up in the more Heaven/Hell type of supernatural, and less into the general supernatural. Dormammu would be a much better villain to represent the mystic world as a whole.

[SeritoNiN]

Mephisto being the center of an event doesn't interest me much. The whole supernatural thing in comics to me is rather :rolleyes:

But I seem to be in the minority. :biggrin:

[marshal99]

Well , Mephisto did try to invade the top cow universe in that top cow/marvel crossover. :biggrin:

If you want Mephisto as a badass , just read the mephisto vs mini series to learn all about mephisto kicking butt on the marvel heroes. :wink:

[mcgaffer]

The X-Men could be given lots of reason to participate in this event unlike Civil War and WWH (apart from his visit to the mansion, they did'nt get involved in the New York stuff). You could have the return of Madylene Pryor as the Goblin Queen. Belasco is a major thorn in their side. They have grudges with Dracula and Loki. There's also the fact that practically every mutant was wiped out by magic.

I don't know how many people remember this, but the X-Men were the guardians of something very important at the mansion. A cairn that was the portal to the N'Garai's realm. Without the X-Men present, an entire army could flood into the world.

[Monty_Cristo]

I had a weird idea recently; What if Mephisto were to offer a deal similar to One More Day to other heroes?

What would Iron Man give up to save Happy Hogan?

why would he want to do that now that he has Pepper all to himself?

What would Colossus give up to save Kitty?

not his balls. those were taken a long time ago.

What would Sharon Carter give up to save Steve?

sleeping with people who aren't super-soldiers?

What would Daredevil give up to save Milla?

i have no proof that he actually loved Milla.

[desanth]

Greg Pak and Fred Van Lente writing with art by Mike Deodato jr.

Mephisto is not happy with Dr. Doom, Morgan Le Fay, and Loki forming an alliance against the heroes. He gets Belasco to incite chaos (brings in Magik and some of the X-men into the event) and work with him. If the heroes are beaten by Doom's Cabal, Mephisto loses out on some very rich and noble souls, since a defeated soul is not as nourishing if you defeat it yourself.

Lurking around the edges, the spiritual form of Thanos and Death, waiting for the opportunity to strike.

Heroes with major roles: Thor and his Asgardian brethren, Dr. Strange and his magical allies, Iron Man (reconcilliation with Thor), Spiderman, Scarlet Witch (her return), Ms Marvel, Black Knight (along with Ian Mcnee and other magic-users from MI13), The F4, Magik, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, and a few of the younger X-men (Pixie and others from the Magik arc of last year by Kyle and Yost)

Others involvement: Ghost rider, Moon Knight, Ares, Hercules and Cho, other Marvel supernatural/horror heroes that are way cool, but have not made appearences. Subplot: Quest to Hell, where they encounter demons and devils, along with Pluto and Hela.

Wild card: Namor and his Atlanteans. Atlantean magic)

As you can see, its huge. SO we will go 7 issues. I would tie all these together. X-men, Thor/Loki, Dr. Strange, the trip to Hell and/or other dimensions, Doom and F4 (Maybe teaming up to repel Mephisto, and than Doom turning on everyone at the end)

Final battle: Doom, Morgan, Loki (reverts to man, maybe at the end?) and the return of Thanos vs. Thor, Dr. Strange and the Scarlett Witch and the F4, with an assist from IM and the avengers, and Spidey.

I would not retcon OMD here, I would move the story forward, hinting at those events. Even though its magic, it happened. And the story has to progress with that to make narrative sense and not invalidate the events prior to OMD. It can't be ignored.

Finally, someone mentioned the Scarlet Witch, first person I thought of in the next magical event! Surprised it took 3 pages before I saw her name.

As for OMD progressing and not being ignored, you haven't been reading Spiderman long have you? :wink:

[jeffmace]

If it involves Mephisto, then Spidey's gotta be thrown in, especially with the recent stuff that's gone on with him...

[Tanjint]

I love the "Peter...think hard. What did you do?" idea. awesome

-T