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andy khouri
06-11-2008, 11:05 AM
Writer Chuck Dixon announced last night he is no longer employed by DC Comics "in any capacity." The news comes just one day after Frank Tieri was announced as the writer of a two-issue story on "Batman and the Outsiders."

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=16759

Kid Kamikaze10
06-11-2008, 11:16 AM
All I want to know is what warranted something like this?

Was it something he did, or was it editorial. As a upcoming writer, some of this stuff scares and somewhat interests me (the fragility of a writing job, I mean), so if more is brought up, it'd be great to hear.

It's a shame such a good writer is leaving so abruptly.

reflecto
06-11-2008, 11:21 AM
Hell yes!! Great news!
Don't let the door hit ya on the the ass on your way out, Dixon!! See ya!!!
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CBR News
06-11-2008, 11:34 AM
Quick note -- apologies to asutton for deleting his post. Completely a mistake.

-- Jonah

Madrox84
06-11-2008, 11:37 AM
This is great news!

Provided of course that he isn't moving to Marvel...

He's a terrible writer.

CBikle
06-11-2008, 11:40 AM
I wonder if this could somehow be Countdown related ?

I know he wasn't involved on the book but, y'know...

Jack-In-The-Box
06-11-2008, 11:55 AM
Sorry to see him go. Robin has been consistently good lately.

JimmyDee
06-11-2008, 12:31 PM
I can't say I'm the biggest fan of Dixon's work, but that's not really the story here.

Dixon was a mainstay at DC, beloved by many fans. He clearly can sell more books than most other writers as he was brought on to replace Tony Bedard at the last second on Batman and the Outsiders. That's no slam on Tony, just a fact that Dixon must bring in another 25-30% in sales because of his long affiliation with DC's Bat-books. So, smart move ultimately for DC, even if it did mess with Tony.

When you hire Dixon, you know what you're getting -- a solid writer with a good reputation. He might have an ego, he might be opinionated, whatever, but you know what you're getting. So how is it almost six months later he ends up being fired off ALL of his books when he was brought in with such fan fare?

He's one of the few writers DC can point to with veteran cred who helps sell books. DC has lost too many veteran writers in recent years -- yes, they have Morrison and Johns and there's Busiek, but he's locked up with the weekly thing. Robinson's coming back, which is sorely needed. Outside of that, who do they have with veteran experience that sells books? (Note, I left Simone off this list only because she's a relatively new writer.)

This is a really bad sign, IMO.

Teh m0nk3y
06-11-2008, 12:39 PM
I found his Batman and the Outsiders to be an okay read, and the only current place where Batgirl is given a shred of her old personality. So if only for that reason, I find this news a bit sad.

wulfstone
06-11-2008, 02:31 PM
I presume this is because of RIP and a shakeup of books coming out of that

Agent_Torpor
06-11-2008, 03:16 PM
Ahh, too bad it wasn't Winick instead.

Flash's Lightning
06-11-2008, 04:23 PM
As I mentioned before, Dixon was an average writer who could have achieved a level of quality equal to the big leagues if he'd put his heart into it. It just never seemed as if he was into it really, just half-hearted stories that came out okay, but could have been outstanding.

Traf
06-11-2008, 04:31 PM
I'm very disappointed. I guess it's possible he left because he disagreed with the direction DC was going or something, which is fine, but I have a feeling he was fired. Anyway, it doesn't seem like they parted on good terms, and I doubt that Dixon will ever work for DC again. Of course, I don't know any details so this is just speculation.

DonEMC
06-11-2008, 06:22 PM
I'm a big fan of Chuck's work and I think he's one of the most solid writers to ever work at DC. I'd put him up there with guys like Roger Stern and Mike W. Barr, whose work was always enjoyable.
I was just commenting to Mr. Dixon on how much I am enjoying his Robin stories, how it's a return to the greatness of his first run on the series.
I'm truly disappointed, but I'll read whatever Mr. Dixon writes for whatever other companies he will work.
Sad, sad news. I just read the Robin Spoiler Special, which was great and now I get this news ...

SUPERECWFAN1
06-11-2008, 06:27 PM
Well there goes Robin back to the DROP PILE. Sorry DC. But losing Dixon who is a quality writer who doesn't need shock tactics like nudity and all to tell good stories. This should tell you the state of DC Comics. When they'd rather kick good talented writers who can tell stories in the meduim without that crazyness to the side.

Dixon will be back in DC when Dan Didio gets fired in 2011.

Johnny_Luck
06-11-2008, 06:46 PM
Dixon is a good writer, I liked his birds of prey stuff, but his outsiders was a mess from the get go. The team shake up sucked and basically made it so that Grace and Thunder were the only good people left on the team, yet thunder due to tony got stuck in the shit hole and has yet to get out of it. Overall the team and the overall writing of the book since Winick left has been a mess.

Dixon if he actually had a good cast from the get go and could use thunder like she should be used, would have actually had a chance to make the book good.

But losing Dixon who is a quality writer who doesn't need shock tactics like nudity and all to tell good stories. This should tell you the state of DC Comics. When they'd rather kick good talented writers who can tell stories in the medium without that crazyness to the side.


Yeah cause you know they by adding something normal people due on a regular basis never mind super strong, super stressed heroes they obviously are only doing it for shock value. The fact that most superhero comics don't have more sex is more of a shock then the fact that they are trying to be more realistic and add some sex scenes here and there.

But Hey just for you they should ignore reality and ya know remove all sex scenes from comics ever, while they are at it they might as well remove all blood gore and weapons and just have the 60s style bubbles from the batman show when people are fighting that way you can pretend the battles are less like fights are in real life.

Flash's Lightning
06-11-2008, 06:53 PM
Dixon is a good writer, I liked his birds of prey stuff, but his outsiders was a mess from the get go. The team shake up sucked and basically made it so that Grace and Thunder were the only good people left on the team, yet thunder due to tony got stuck in the shit hole and has yet to get out of it. Overall the team and the overall writing of the book since Winick left has been a mess.

Dixon if he actually had a good cast from the get go and could use thunder like she should be used, would have actually had a chance to make the book good.



Yeah cause you know they by adding something normal people due on a regular basis never mind super strong, super stressed heroes they obviously are only doing it for shock value. The fact that most superhero comics don't have more sex is more of a shock then the fact that they are trying to be more realistic and add some sex scenes here and there.

But Hey just for you they should ignore reality and ya know remove all sex scenes from comics ever, while they are at it they might as well remove all blood gore and weapons and just have the 60s style bubbles from the batman show when people are fighting that way you can pretend the battles are less like fights are in real life.

Okay, overreact much? Take a breath.

There's nothing wrong with sex in comics to fit a story. There IS something wrong if a story is in the comic to fit the sex. If the sex is there as a part of the story, it's fine. If it's there to shock, or because the writer is too lazy to come up with an actual story, then not so much.

In any case, whatever your belief on sexuality in comics, you're being non-sensical by bringing up violence. I don't know why those two subjects go together so often, but they're two completely separate things.

SUPERECWFAN1
06-11-2008, 07:08 PM
Yeah cause you know they by adding something normal people due on a regular basis never mind super strong, super stressed heroes they obviously are only doing it for shock value. The fact that most superhero comics don't have more sex is more of a shock then the fact that they are trying to be more realistic and add some sex scenes here and there.

But Hey just for you they should ignore reality and ya know remove all sex scenes from comics ever, while they are at it they might as well remove all blood gore and weapons and just have the 60s style bubbles from the batman show when people are fighting that way you can pretend the battles are less like fights are in real life.

Okay, overreact much? Take a breath.

There's nothing wrong with sex in comics to fit a story. There IS something wrong if a story is in the comic to fit the sex. If the sex is there as a part of the story, it's fine. If it's there to shock, or because the writer is too lazy to come up with an actual story, then not so much.

In any case, whatever your belief on sexuality in comics, you're being non-sensical by bringing up violence. I don't know why those two subjects go together so often, but they're two completely separate things.

Pretty much what you posted. Johnny you know yourself not many have problems with sex in comics. 90% of the people on this forum are adults. No ones saying do PG Rated SUPERFRIENDS now. Their saying...tell a good story where the sexual situation will be logical and add to the story. Where you can go elsewhere. But if your just tossing it in for senseless bullshit...it loses it dramatic effect pretty much.


To be honest DC Comics troubles me more and more. The decision making is becoming WCWish . The alienating your beloved hardcore writers from the earlier era's to appeal to todays crowd seems like something Bischoff would do.

Where he fired some old NWA/WCW guys and remade the promotion into WWF-Lite for awhile (1994-1996). Like Bichoff , Didio seems to prop his friends (cough Judd Winick) into good prime time spots on books. Handing them cushy gigs and watching as they epic fail.

In the end...I'm gonna say it...like Bischoff in WCW...Dan Didio will eventually lose unless he runs DC like a business again. And not handing cushing writing gigs to pals , chasing away talented writers ect ect. (essentially he let Brubaker go and now Brubaker is having a hell of a GOTCHA on DC Comics now)

Chuck Dixon screams Moon Night ..or hell hand him Young Avengers and let him do it. Eventually Dixon will be like a Brubaker I suppose. ANother talented guy Dan Didio chased away.

Liberty Belle Fan
06-11-2008, 07:46 PM
I don't know what to think, but I do hope someone interviews him and gets the details at some point.

Traf
06-11-2008, 08:46 PM
From the Dixonverse message board in response to someone's question about trades:

Posted by: Chuck Dixon (IP Logged)
Date: June 11, 2008 04:08PM

Not everyone at DC is a bastard.
DC is a fine institution that has been quite fair with freelancers on the question of participation and royalties.
http://dixonverse.net/board/read.php?2,6361,6423#msg-6423

ashez2ashes
06-11-2008, 10:20 PM
This is too bad. I really enjoyed his Robin/Spoiler special and had hoped he might pen the reunion between Cassandra Cain and Steph... He seems to at least give a crap about Batgirl. Instead I get Beechan... :frown:

SeritoNiN
06-11-2008, 10:41 PM
I REALLY hope Marvel gives him some work, more importantly that he accepts, ESEPCIALLY if they got rid of that flake, piece of sh*t writer matt fraction and put a real writer on Punisher War Journal that understands the character so well. PLEASE MARVEL. Oops...wrong forum to be begging Marvel. Thanks for letting another great talent go due to ego DC, and then they wonder why they're always # 2. :rolleyes:

Abrojo
06-12-2008, 02:53 AM
I REALLY hope Marvel gives him some work, more importantly that he accepts, ESEPCIALLY if they got rid of that flake, piece of sh*t writer matt fraction and put a real writer on Punisher War Journal that understands the character so well. PLEASE MARVEL. Oops...wrong forum to be begging Marvel. Thanks for letting another great talent go due to ego DC, and then they wonder why they're always # 2. :rolleyes:

heh, i agree he sucks in Punisher WJ, guess he wanted to push the furthest away from Ennis he could, and messed up big time trying.

Though his Invincible Iron Man is great so far, but with only 2 issues out, i guess its early to tell. But yeah, would love to see Dixon back to normal Punisher, Fraction could use the break.

Stephane Garrelie
06-12-2008, 02:56 PM
Too bad.
I enjoy his current Robin run.

Mia
06-12-2008, 08:40 PM
This is great news!

Provided of course that he isn't moving to Marvel...

He's a terrible writer.

That's a matter of opinion. And even if he is a 'terrible' writer. I don't see why it would be 'great news'. If you don't like the writers work. Then don't buy. :rolleyes:

There are many writers whose work I don't like, but I usually hope that they either leave the book I like or don't write a character or book I like. Gloating because someone lost their job is crass and in shows a lack of character. No wonder the general public think comic book readers are morons. Especially with someone like you to prove that to be true.

SUPERECWFAN1
06-12-2008, 08:54 PM
Oh so, your posts got deleted on the Batman board, so you come and post the same thing here? Cripes, how pathetic. You really are a looser.

He's on a mission to teach Chuck Dixon a lesson. Last I heard...Dixon doesn't care or know who he is...:tongue:

Seraku
06-13-2008, 11:56 PM
I REALLY hope Marvel gives him some work, more importantly that he accepts, ESEPCIALLY if they got rid of that flake, piece of sh*t writer matt fraction and put a real writer on Punisher War Journal that understands the character so well. PLEASE MARVEL. Oops...wrong forum to be begging Marvel. Thanks for letting another great talent go due to ego DC, and then they wonder why they're always # 2. :rolleyes:

You've obvious never read none of Fraction's non-Punisher related stuff or ya wouldn't be talking this way.

SeritoNiN
06-14-2008, 01:57 AM
You've obvious never read none of Fraction's non-Punisher related stuff or ya wouldn't be talking this way.

Like Order? Yeah, sucked. I got this funny feeling that's why no one read it and it got axed.

Maybe Iron Fist? Oh wait...doesn't Brubaker plot that so basically, he gets credit for something that isn't his brain child?

I just don't like him. He's not a good writer to me. But hey, to each his own.

Let him keep riding the coat tails of someone else and get credit for it, I hear he'll be riding that wave with Brubaker again on Uncanny X-men soon, more power to him. If he can surround himself in good writing, he may end up picking some of it up.

Capt USA
06-14-2008, 05:09 PM
this sucks, Dixon was doing a great job on Robin, and I loved the fact that unlike other writers who come onto a title, he didn't immediately throw away the supporting cast to shoehorn his own cast in the book. Sure he brought spoiler back, but so far he's kept Zo also.

Blueferret
06-15-2008, 07:55 AM
Pretty much what you posted. Johnny you know yourself not many have problems with sex in comics. 90% of the people on this forum are adults. No ones saying do PG Rated SUPERFRIENDS now. Their saying...tell a good story where the sexual situation will be logical and add to the story. Where you can go elsewhere. But if your just tossing it in for senseless bullshit...it loses it dramatic effect pretty much.


To be honest DC Comics troubles me more and more. The decision making is becoming WCWish . The alienating your beloved hardcore writers from the earlier era's to appeal to todays crowd seems like something Bischoff would do.

Where he fired some old NWA/WCW guys and remade the promotion into WWF-Lite for awhile (1994-1996). Like Bichoff , Didio seems to prop his friends (cough Judd Winick) into good prime time spots on books. Handing them cushy gigs and watching as they epic fail.

In the end...I'm gonna say it...like Bischoff in WCW...Dan Didio will eventually lose unless he runs DC like a business again. And not handing cushing writing gigs to pals , chasing away talented writers ect ect. (essentially he let Brubaker go and now Brubaker is having a hell of a GOTCHA on DC Comics now)

Chuck Dixon screams Moon Night ..or hell hand him Young Avengers and let him do it. Eventually Dixon will be like a Brubaker I suppose. ANother talented guy Dan Didio chased away.

Does this mean we can expect Supes, Bats, and Wonder Woman all hugging each other when Joey Q's face shows up on the Titantron screaming "YOU'RE FIRED!!!!!":biggrin:

Libaax
06-15-2008, 08:22 AM
This is bad news cause i like Dixon on Batman comics.

I was about to pick up Robin thanks to Dixon.

He is the one writer i trusted on NW,Robin etc :(

dancj
06-16-2008, 06:55 AM
I'd put him up there with guys like Roger Stern
Now there's damning with faint praise!

Flash's Lightning
06-16-2008, 09:27 AM
Looks like (http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/06/16/chuck-dixon-i-did-not-quit/) Chuck was fired, and he hints that it was Dan that did the deed.

I agree with Dixon - the DCU does feel directionless right now, very chaotic.

WorstThingUS
06-16-2008, 09:29 AM
I can only hope that firing a longtime comics workhorse like Chuck Dixon only hastens the end of the DiDio era, because it needs to be over now! Hasn't he all but pushed Mark Waid away too?

http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/06/16/chuck-dixon-i-did-not-quit/

Flash's Lightning
06-16-2008, 09:30 AM
I can only hope that firing a longtime comics workhorse like Chuck Dixon only hastens the end of the DiDio era, because it needs to be over now! Hasn't he all but pushed Mark Waid away too?

http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/06/16/chuck-dixon-i-did-not-quit/

Do we need another Chuck Dixon thread? :confused:

WorstThingUS
06-16-2008, 09:38 AM
Do we need another Chuck Dixon thread? :confused:

Do we need to remind people that visiting threads is voluntary? And if TPTB think it's redundant it'll just get folded into one of the other Chuck Dixon threads.

Xero
06-16-2008, 09:40 AM
I will repost here what I posted there anonymously.

Looks like it is time for some Editorial changes at DC, I did not like Dixon's politics, but he was the best f@cking straight up comic book writer they had. I actually started reading Robin in the store, and buying his Outsiders they were that good.

Add this to their inability to consistently edit the books, catch continuity gaffs or hold onto talent the past five years and you start to see a pattern forming. If it wasn't for the fact that Time Warner doesn't seem to care who runs DC Comics or how it is run, things might have changed before this.

This sucks because up until now I've given Dan Didio the benefit of the doubt, he has done a lot of good things for the company.

Flash's Lightning
06-16-2008, 09:44 AM
Do we need to remind people that visiting threads is voluntary? And if TPTB think it's redundant it'll just get folded into one of the other Chuck Dixon threads.

I don't mean it to be snarky, I'm just wondering what this thread offers the other one didn't, and if it's redundant?

I'm guilty of doing it too, making threads where others have done the exact same thing, so I'm not getting on a high horse or anything. :biggrin:

Was just wondering...

reflecto
06-16-2008, 09:45 AM
Do we need another Chuck Dixon thread? :confused:
Especially considering that no one is ever allowed to say anything remotely negative about Dixon without being wolf-packed.

K-DoG7p7
06-16-2008, 09:48 AM
The problem is from the top down..
But its not The Top (Paul) and its not the bottom (The Editors) that leaves Dan and Jann..

WorstThingUS
06-16-2008, 09:52 AM
Especially considering that no one is ever allowed to say anything remotely negative about Dixon without being wolf-packed.

It's not that, it's just that you keep saying the same thing over and over and over again. I'm a liberal democrat living in NYC and you even get on my nerves.

Flash's Lightning
06-16-2008, 09:59 AM
Hasn't he all but pushed Mark Waid away too?

Well, since we're using this thread then...

Show proof that Mark Waid is being pushed away by Dan DiDio, please, since you're making the claim.

reflecto
06-16-2008, 10:01 AM
It's not that, it's just that you keep saying the same thing over and over and over again. I'm a liberal democrat living in NYC and you even get on my nerves.Well how's this for something new? This latest bit of press talk from Dixon shows a previously unknown (to me, at least) side of Dixon that is grossly unprofessional and wholly motivated by a desire for sabotage. What is he going for here? Is he hoping that his legions of loyal fans boycott DC until DiDio is fired? How many of these exercises in spite are we going to have to sit through before Dixon somehow gets right with the fact that DC no longer requires his services?

WorstThingUS
06-16-2008, 10:10 AM
Well, since we're using this thread then...

Show proof that Mark Waid is being pushed away by Dan DiDio, please, since you're making the claim.

I honestly have nothing but a gut feeling based on things Waid says in interviews and his seeming withdrawal from DC. Which could just as easily be blamed on his BOOM duties as well, but in my mind DiDio's always the villain.

Well how's this for something new? This latest bit of press talk from Dixon shows a previously unknown (to me, at least) side of Dixon that is grossly unprofessional and wholly motivated by a desire for sabotage. What is he going for here? Is he hoping that his legions of loyal fans boycott DC until DiDio is fired? How many of these exercises in spite are we going to have to sit through before Dixon somehow gets right with the fact that DC no longer requires his services?

Yes, this is new. Thank you. And while it's not the height of professionalism, it's not unprecedented and validation of what many of us say here every day.

DonC
06-16-2008, 10:11 AM
Well how's this for something new? This latest bit of press talk from Dixon shows a previously unknown (to me, at least) side of Dixon that is grossly unprofessional and wholly motivated by a desire for sabotage. What is he going for here? Is he hoping that his legions of loyal fans boycott DC until DiDio is fired? How many of these exercises in spite are we going to have to sit through before Dixon somehow gets right with the fact that DC no longer requires his services?


When you go looking for something, I guess eventually you'll find it.

Fans don't need Chuck Dixon to tell us Dan DiDio's an insane nutjob slowly running DC into the ground with endless micromanagment.

CBikle
06-16-2008, 10:48 AM
Well how's this for something new? This latest bit of press talk from Dixon shows a previously unknown (to me, at least) side of Dixon that is grossly unprofessional and wholly motivated by a desire for sabotage. What is he going for here? Is he hoping that his legions of loyal fans boycott DC until DiDio is fired? How many of these exercises in spite are we going to have to sit through before Dixon somehow gets right with the fact that DC no longer requires his services?

All-in-all, his posts have been professional and he's been careful (even surgical) about making it clear that he's only got a problem with Didio.

Something else I've noticed: like John Byrne, Dixon's best writing seems to be wasted on internet postings instead of the books he's working on.

Or was working on.

Agent_Torpor
06-16-2008, 11:57 AM
I agree with the sentiment that Didio is a toolsack but this:

" Looks like it is time for some Editorial changes at DC, I did not like Dixon's politics, but he was the best f@cking straight up comic book writer they had..."

is flat-out laughable. Chuck Dixon?

Fatguy
06-16-2008, 12:20 PM
lol yea, Chuck is ok, but....best writer they have?? May be overstating :wink:

I wish Geoff Johns, Grant Morrison, etc would come out with comments like this though. I'm not one to bash the higher ups, since I as a consumer have no idea about the ins and outs of the DC editiorial process, but I think it's plenty clear that Dan D should probably be moved along.

Xero
06-16-2008, 12:38 PM
I agree with the sentiment that Didio is a toolsack but this:

" Looks like it is time for some Editorial changes at DC, I did not like Dixon's politics, but he was the best f@cking straight up comic book writer they had..."

is flat-out laughable. Chuck Dixon?

A good comic book writer, can step into unfamiliar territory on any book and make it their own. Pretty much all the old timers know how to do this, his only failings in my eyes, seemed to have occurred when he handled characters like Midnighter, Thunder and Grace who conflicted with his stated personal beliefs.

And unlike Geoff Johns he actually knows how to end a story.

Hawkman
06-16-2008, 12:56 PM
Looks like it is time for some Editorial changes at DC, I did not like Dixon's politics, but he was the best f@cking straight up comic book writer they had. I actually started reading Robin in the store, and buying his Outsiders they were that good.

Add this to their inability to consistently edit the books, catch continuity gaffs or hold onto talent the past five years and you start to see a pattern forming. If it wasn't for the fact that Time Warner doesn't seem to care who runs DC Comics or how it is run, things might have changed before this.

This sucks because up until now I've given Dan Didio the benefit of the doubt, he has done a lot of good things for the company.
Except for the politics part, I feel pretty much the same way you do. I've not been one of these people that have jumped all over DiDio every time something at DC has gone wrong, nor when something happened in a story that I wasn't especially happy about. But Dixon was one of the publisher's better writers, and he's also a noted workhorse in the industry. This isn't some young, up-and-comer who's upset because he's been fired from his first job. Quite the opposite, in fact.

That said, the impression I'm left with here is that Dixon, who's known to get ahead of his deadlines, was reprimanded because his stories weren't lining up with "Batman RIP" or Final Crisis or both. And to me, that's something that should fall squarely on editorial. It's their job to keep everyone on the same page, so if Dixon was handing in stuff that wasn't going to line up with everything else at DC, they should've told him ahead of time. Instead, sounds like DiDio was changing his mind every three seconds about how he wanted developments to unfold in the DCU at large, and it was Dixon that was put out as a result.

In other words, poor management from the top down.

The Cool Thatguy
06-16-2008, 01:00 PM
A good comic book writer, can step into unfamiliar territory on any book and make it their own. Pretty much all the old timers know how to do this, his only failings in my eyes, seemed to have occurred when he handled characters like Midnighter, Thunder and Grace who conflicted with his stated personal beliefs.

And unlike Geoff Johns he actually knows how to end a story.

I don't see where he failed with Thunder. The team was being revamped and kicking off a moderately skilled member like Thunder is a good way to show how it's a whole new ballgame. Heck, IIRC Benard was the one who originally booted Thunder off.

Jack Zodiac
06-16-2008, 01:14 PM
I agree, sort of. The DC Universe isn't too directionless. It's just that the direction it's going is being dictated by four or five people who aren't communicating entirely well. Hence bull!@#$ like Countdown.

The Cool Thatguy
06-16-2008, 01:23 PM
I agree, sort of. The DC Universe isn't too directionless. It's just that the direction it's going is being dictated by four or five people who aren't communicating entirely well. Hence bull!@#$ like Countdown.

And Death of the New Gods, Salvation Run, Countdown Arena (though people should have realized this mini was pointless when the writer admitted it didn't matter who won the matches), among others.

CBikle
06-16-2008, 01:27 PM
A good comic book writer, can step into unfamiliar territory on any book and make it their own. Pretty much all the old timers know how to do this, his only failings in my eyes, seemed to have occurred when he handled characters like Midnighter, Thunder and Grace who conflicted with his stated personal beliefs.

And unlike Geoff Johns he actually knows how to end a story.

That's debatable, because there's only a handful of people who've been able to make it through a full issue of anything Dixon's written without falling into a coma.

You're not doing Dixon any favors by comparing his work to Geoff John's...

WorstThingUS
06-16-2008, 01:38 PM
That's debatable, because there's only a handful of people who've been able to make it through a full issue of anything Dixon's written without falling into a coma.

You're not doing Dixon any favors by comparing his work to Geoff John's...

No, I'm with him. Dixon is a solid storyteller. He alone was responsible for the success of Nightwing, Robin and Birds of Prey and all at the same time. That requires more than a handful of people.

Jack Zodiac
06-16-2008, 01:40 PM
I lump all of that crap into the same turd pile as Countdown.

The Cool Thatguy
06-16-2008, 02:35 PM
I lump all of that crap into the same turd pile as Countdown.

But it's crap that we were promised would lead into Final Crisis, only to find out later (after money was spent) that it would be functionally ignored.

IMO, that's as close to theft as a comic book company can get.

Batman was taken
06-16-2008, 04:42 PM
Well, looks like Dixon's not coming back to DC any time soon.... At least until Dido's gone, anyways:mad:

ZT4
06-16-2008, 04:48 PM
The situation is so chaotic that he's imagining Jim Shooter in a hippie mini-van?:eek:

mattman
06-16-2008, 06:49 PM
Well, looks like Dixon's not coming back to DC any time soon.... At least until Dido's gone, anyways:mad:

I think we all would assume that it won't be long now......

MZ

Shaka
06-16-2008, 06:54 PM
I can only hope that firing a longtime comics workhorse like Chuck Dixon only hastens the end of the DiDio era, because it needs to be over now! Hasn't he all but pushed Mark Waid away too?

http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/06/16/chuck-dixon-i-did-not-quit/

Herald is that you?

Hokeyboy
06-16-2008, 09:50 PM
I think we all would assume that it won't be long now......

MZ
Is your bot gone? :confused:

Pól Rua
06-17-2008, 01:31 AM
But it's crap that we were promised would lead into Final Crisis, only to find out later (after money was spent) that it would be functionally ignored.

IMO, that's as close to theft as a comic book company can get.

Enh. There's theft and there's swampland in Florida.
I pegged Countdown as a turd going in.

And the moral of this story is, "Don't Buy Any Bridges Off Dan DiDio."

The Xenos
06-18-2008, 05:59 PM
Maybe it wasn't intentional false advertising and a bait and switch scam. Maybe it was incompetence that caused it. Then again, that really doesn't make the end result of people being sold something and then getting something else any better.

Hypestyle
06-19-2008, 12:12 PM
so who's going to be the snitch and reveal just exactly what went down?