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Flash's Lightning
06-10-2008, 04:46 PM
You know, I don't understand why Strange doesn't get a good ongoing title. Does he really sell that poorly?

And I know he's appearing now a lot in the DCU, and I appreciate his appearances. He did 52, and then a stint in Mystery after the R/T War. But how about a good Adam Strange ongoing book?

I've been reading the JLA and JSA titles (the last ones that were cancelled before being relaunched, not the current ones) and there's some good stuff in them.

The JSA title got me interested in that (especially Doctor Midnight - what an awesome character) and the JLA has the story where it looks like Adam has gone nuts got me interested more into his character. Very good stuff, with the tragic "can't be with your wife you love" motif.

That story, plus the Adam Strange mini that came out just before 52 and the Rann/Thanagar War show me that he would be great as a central character in a book.

I'm going to track down some of the older issues now of his mini's and I think he had an ongoing back in the late 80's early 90's that I may be able to find on ebay or milehigh or something. With that and the JSA pre-crisis books I'm tracking I think I'm in for a lot of reading coming up. :biggrin:

Oh, and PS whoever told me the Rock of Ages was good? Wow. Good, but...hurt my head. I need to reread it. Thanks!

Pól Rua
06-10-2008, 06:24 PM
It would REALLY depend on who was doing it.
I loved the Planet Heist storyline. I thought Andy Diggle and Pasqual Ferry did a spectacular job encapsulating the kind of headlong, pedal-to-the-metal action of Adam Strange, while remaining true to his character and his supporting cast.
Countdown to Adventure, though, has been distinctly unimpressive, and to be honest, I just can't get past the awful 90's Image-style art. It doesn't read like Adam Strange. It reads like more disposable, interchangeable, tedious teeth-gritted superhero rubbish.

If there's one thing I've learned from the recent glut of moronic crossovers from both major comic companies, it's not to buy bad comics featuring good characters. There are more than enough good comics out there for you to spend your cash on.

So yeah, if DC can present me with a decent Adam Strange series, I'll snap it up, but if not, I won't lose any sleep.

Pól Rua
06-10-2008, 06:27 PM
Also, if you like Doctor Mid-Nite, I'd DEFINITELY recommend the 1999 miniseries that introduced the current version of the character, by Matt Wagner and John K. Snyder III.
It was a fantastic read.

4thHorseman
06-10-2008, 06:28 PM
I wouldn't buy an ongoing. I've never been all that interested in the character. Nothing I've ever read made me want to read more from him.

Dorsai
06-10-2008, 06:34 PM
If it is the same creative team as Planet Heist (Andy Diggle/Pascal Ferry) I would put it on my pull list sight unseen. That has been my only significant exposure to the character but I thought it was really well written and I enjoyed the art very much.

At the least, I would probably try the first arc to get the feel of it.

Jack Zodiac
06-10-2008, 06:50 PM
Ferry needs work anywhere in comics right now. What's he doing? Planet Heist was one of the best books of 2005, in no small part due to the amazing-ass art. And his Mr. Miracle was mind-blowingly awesome.

I'd buy an Adam Strange ongoing book if it were an anthology. I don't think he has the weight to carry a whole series by himself without it getting canceled inside of three years. A space anthology series for him, maybe the Omega Men and L.E.G.I.O.N., and your random Space Cabbie or Captain Comet story would be a more attractive book to me.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
06-10-2008, 07:01 PM
Put Robinson and Snjeberg on it, and I'd buy it!
I thought they nailed him in Starman.

A space anthology series for him, maybe the Omega Men and L.E.G.I.O.N., and your random Space Cabbie or Captain Comet story would be a more attractive book to me.

They also nailed all these guys, as well as Tommy Tomorrow and The MultiAlien.

I'd buy a solo Space Cabbie book, that's a great engine for stories, because you can just have him caught up in the adventures with his customers if nothing else - there'd be potential for him to become DC's Dr. Who.

Dorsai
06-10-2008, 07:05 PM
Ferry needs work anywhere in comics right now. What's he doing? Planet Heist was one of the best books of 2005, in no small part due to the amazing-ass art. And his Mr. Miracle was mind-blowingly awesome.



I was a pretty big Mr. Miracle fan as a kid but I have no idea of the state of the character. From what I have read, Scott Free is no longer Mr. Miracle. Is that correct? Is the story you referenced a Scott Free story? Was that a mini-series?

Since tomorrow is new comic book day, I'd like to see if my LCS might have that if it has been collected in trade.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
06-10-2008, 07:09 PM
I was a pretty big Mr. Miracle fan as a kid but I have no idea of the state of the character. From what I have read, Scott Free is no longer Mr. Miracle. Is that correct? Is the story you referenced a Scott Free story? Was that a mini-series?

Since tomorrow is new comic book day, I'd like to see if my LCS might have that if it has been collected in trade.

It was part of the Seven Soldiers series of mini's, and is collected in the Seven Soldiers collections.

Flash's Lightning
06-10-2008, 07:14 PM
I agree with those who say the Planet Heist team should do the book, if there were one. They had an incredible story.

I also agree that the stories that came after that with Strange were kind of weak - they're kind of going downhill. The R/T war was okay, but not great. 52 was good, but not all that "believe in her" mess. (With the exception of Pope Lobo, that was worth buying 52 in itself.)

I haven't enjoyed the latest Mystery book, but I haven't picked up the final issues yet either.

As for the Starman creators doing an Adam Strange book, I couldn't say yes or no. Haven't read Starman. Will have to put it on my to-read list, but it's a bit long at the moment. I don't see why we can't incorporate everyones idea if it's an anthology though...you can have multiple creators. :smile:

Flash's Lightning
06-10-2008, 07:17 PM
Oh, and that should be "Countdown to Adventure", not Mystery.

Getting my Countdowns mixed up - no great loss there though. :biggrin:

And by the way - the Mister Miracle 7 soldiers books is pretty good, but doesn't feature Scott Free. (In answer to someones question above.)

FunkyGreenJerusalem
06-10-2008, 07:28 PM
As for the Starman creators doing an Adam Strange book, I couldn't say yes or no. Haven't read Starman. Will have to put it on my to-read list, but it's a bit long at the moment. I don't see why we can't incorporate everyones idea if it's an anthology though...you can have multiple creators. :smile:

If you just want the Adam Strange Stuff, it's around #52-53, and he makes some appearances in the big climatic story of the book, although that's all set on Earth.

Pól Rua
06-10-2008, 08:40 PM
Ferry needs work anywhere in comics right now. What's he doing? Planet Heist was one of the best books of 2005, in no small part due to the amazing-ass art. And his Mr. Miracle was mind-blowingly awesome.

Unfortunately, Ferry is exclusive to Marvel these days, and has a regular gig grinding out uninspired generic superhero pap (which is shame) for ridiculous amounts of cash (which is not, talent should be rewarded).
DC editorial's decision to pitch a fit and remove him from the Seven Soldiers project was the one fly in some otherwise pretty sweet ointment.

CBikle
06-10-2008, 09:40 PM
The original Adam Strange stories were about the protagonist (a hybrid of Flash Gordon & Buck Rogers) thwarting strange menaces by creative applications of scientific trivia; plot & characterization were there, but they usually took a back seat to the "MacGuffin".

In that sense, Warren Ellis wouldn't be a bad choice to write an Adam Strange ongoing in that he could focus on the hard sci-fi aspects to the story with the story's science-based solution being delivered by Adam Strange.

Adam Strange really only has 3 other supporting characters (Alanna, his daughter and Sarnath), so Ellis could add more characters if he wanted to tell certain types of stories that wouldn't fit Adam and the main cast.

I do think that Ellis might be tempted to screw with the Adam Strange character the way he sometimes does with superhero characters, of course, Ellis might view Strange as more of a pulp sci-fi character in the Hugo Gernsbach mold as opposed to a licensed super-character.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
06-10-2008, 09:54 PM
The original Adam Strange stories were about the protagonist (a hybrid of Flash Gordon & Buck Rogers) thwarting strange menaces by creative applications of scientific trivia; plot & characterization were there, but they usually took a back seat to the "MacGuffin".

In that sense, Warren Ellis wouldn't be a bad choice to write an Adam Strange ongoing in that he could focus on the hard sci-fi aspects to the story with the story's science-based solution being delivered by Adam Strange.

Adam Strange really only has 3 other supporting characters (Alanna, his daughter and Sarnath), so Ellis could add more characters if he wanted to tell certain types of stories that wouldn't fit Adam and the main cast.

I do think that Ellis might be tempted to screw with the Adam Strange character the way he sometimes does with superhero characters, of course, Ellis might view Strange as more of a pulp sci-fi character in the Hugo Gernsbach mold as opposed to a licensed super-character.

No, no, no!
Hard sci-fi has nothing to do with Adam Strange, and nor should it.
It's more pulpy John Carter style stuff (ie no reality) and that's what makes it great.
I like Ellis, but wouldn't want him any where near Adam Strange, it's just not his thing.

Flash's Lightning
06-11-2008, 04:32 AM
If you just want the Adam Strange Stuff, it's around #52-53, and he makes some appearances in the big climatic story of the book, although that's all set on Earth.

Cool, that should be easy enough. Will I understand it fine without any other issues? I don't know much about Starman...other than what I learned from JSA, he has a rod that shoots stuff. :biggrin:

Pól Rua
06-11-2008, 06:16 AM
Cool, that should be easy enough. Will I understand it fine without any other issues? I don't know much about Starman...other than what I learned from JSA, he has a rod that shoots stuff. :biggrin:

Seriously, Starman is one of (if not THE) best ongoing superhero titles DC has put out in recent history.
Start with the first trade (or the omnibus, if you can afford it). You won't be sorry.

Ghost Shark
06-11-2008, 06:38 AM
Seriously, Starman is one of (if not THE) best ongoing superhero titles DC has put out in recent history.
Start with the first trade (or the omnibus, if you can afford it). You won't be sorry.

DITTO! Absolutely wonderful storytelling, and not your typical superhero stuff, either.

In regards to Adam Strange, I'd pick up an ongoing, as long as they put him back in his Planet Heist uniform. He's back in his original outfit for the Rann/Thanagar Holy War series, and it's just Godawful.

Pól Rua
06-11-2008, 06:50 AM
I do like Adam Strange's costume, so I've got no gripes either way.

But oh, one thing to ABSOLUTELY avoid. Do not get 'Adam Strange: Man of Two Worlds'. Just awful from start to finish. Horrible. It really struck me as someone trying to write Alan Moore-style deconstruction who has no idea how to do it.
Essentially, strips the character of everything cool, fun and interesting and submerges the whole thing in a black mire of misery, internal angst and relentless self-flagellation.

Bat-Reader
06-11-2008, 07:14 AM
The costume down there was great... i was really suprised when they started to draw him in his old costume again... and lost abit interest to character. Planet Heist was a great read by the way. well, it's actually the only Adam Strange story i have ever read. :biggrin:
http://www.andydiggle.com/assets/adamstrange.jpg

Flash's Lightning
06-11-2008, 01:07 PM
Seriously, Starman is one of (if not THE) best ongoing superhero titles DC has put out in recent history.
Start with the first trade (or the omnibus, if you can afford it). You won't be sorry.

It's really that good that you'd put it ahead of all other stories? Wow. I might have to put that on the top of my list.

Is that the majority consensus that it's the best story (or at least, say, top 5?)

Because if it is, I'll make it my priority above the other books.

Pól Rua
06-11-2008, 05:10 PM
It's really that good that you'd put it ahead of all other stories? Wow. I might have to put that on the top of my list.

Is that the majority consensus that it's the best story (or at least, say, top 5?)

Because if it is, I'll make it my priority above the other books.

I know I've already said my piece, but seriously.
Starman is just a fantastic comic book.
If you like ongoing superhero series, if you're a fan of DC comics, you are doing yourself a favour reading this one. It's a humdinger of a series.

K'Nort
06-11-2008, 06:32 PM
Yes, put Starman at the front of your list. (Not that I know what the rest of the list is.)


I've always liked Adam Strange. But a series would still need a good writer/artist. Reading a good character done poorly is not worth it. I've learned that one the hard way.

Flash's Lightning
06-11-2008, 06:40 PM
Yes, put Starman at the front of your list. (Not that I know what the rest of the list is.)


I've always liked Adam Strange. But a series would still need a good writer/artist. Reading a good character done poorly is not worth it. I've learned that one the hard way.

My list at the moment:

JLA and JSA (titles just before the current one, I am reading from the beginning, and it's taking a long while)

After that, I'm going to go into the JLA/JSA trades that are the classic team-ups, such as Crisis on Multiple Earths the team ups trade.

Then Adam Strange appearances, perhaps one or two pre-Crisis if they're good enough to warrant it, but mainly his current ones.

There's a few odds and ends other than that, but it keeps getting longer and longer...

FunkyGreenJerusalem
06-11-2008, 07:26 PM
Cool, that should be easy enough. Will I understand it fine without any other issues? I don't know much about Starman...other than what I learned from JSA, he has a rod that shoots stuff. :biggrin:

It's #52 and #53 that have an Adam Strange centered story.
I think it stands well enough on it's own.
At this point in the series Starman (Jack Knight) is in space searching for a previous Starman Will Payton, and he meets up with Strange along the way.
So it's part of the overall Space epic in Starman, but that was made up of several stand alone adventures ie the issue before had him sucked back in time to meet Superman's father (and inspires him to trust Earthlings), and the next part of the space journey involves Space Cabbie - so I'm pretty sure you could pick it up without knowing all the details.
I got into Starman through scattered back issues, and it was always easy to figure out.

That said, I'd put the Starman omnibus before the others on that list, it's just a great series.
There's a few stumbles in the early issue in the omninus, but before halfway through you can see Robinson and Harris both raise their game and click together for what was the best looking and written superhero series of the 90's.

Liberty Belle Fan
06-11-2008, 07:38 PM
I would at least give it a shot if it were a monthly.

Pól Rua
06-11-2008, 08:15 PM
My list at the moment:

JLA and JSA (titles just before the current one, I am reading from the beginning, and it's taking a long while)

After that, I'm going to go into the JLA/JSA trades that are the classic team-ups, such as Crisis on Multiple Earths the team ups trade.

Then Adam Strange appearances, perhaps one or two pre-Crisis if they're good enough to warrant it, but mainly his current ones.

There's a few odds and ends other than that, but it keeps getting longer and longer...

Hrm.
Yeah, Starman definitely goes first outta that lot.
If you're keen on the JLA and JSA, I'd definitely go from there to Robinson's 'The Golden Age' next. Maybe check out Mark Waid and Barry Kitson's 'JLA: Year One'.
'DC: The New Frontier' is a MUST.
After that, I'd go for Morrison's JLA stuff.
From there on in, you're on your own.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
06-11-2008, 08:29 PM
Hrm.
Yeah, Starman definitely goes first outta that lot.
If you're keen on the JLA and JSA, I'd definitely go from there to Robinson's 'The Golden Age' next. Maybe check out Mark Waid and Barry Kitson's 'JLA: Year One'.
'DC: The New Frontier' is a MUST.
After that, I'd go for Morrison's JLA stuff.
From there on in, you're on your own.

I'd disagree with the New Frontier recommendation - I got the first trade and was rather unimpressed (although Darwyn Cooke is an art god), and I'd probably put Morrison's JLA a little higher.
Is Waid's JLA: Year One in trade form?
And does it top Superman: Birthright, which I felt missed the mark, and had trouble seeing why it was necessary at all, let alone a big deal.

Babylon23
06-11-2008, 10:39 PM
It's really that good that you'd put it ahead of all other stories? Wow. I might have to put that on the top of my list.

Is that the majority consensus that it's the best story (or at least, say, top 5?)

Because if it is, I'll make it my priority above the other books.

Definitely put Starman at the top of your list. It's an amazing series, one of the best ever produced by DC. It's almost singlehandedly responsible for keeping me reading comics during the 90's.

I'd recommend the Omnibus if you can afford it. The trades are printed a little strangely, whereas the omnibuses will give you the entire series it's it's published order, as well as a bunch of extras, miniseries and short stories.

As for Adam Strange, well, he's one of my top 10 favourite DC characters. I'd check out any ongoing series he was featured in.

Gozwald73
06-12-2008, 12:44 AM
would I pick up an Adam Strange series?: Maybe.

would I pick up a L.E.G.I.O.N. series with Adam Strange in the line-up?: Definately.

Dr. Mid-Nite III
06-12-2008, 03:06 AM
Planet Heist was very very good.

I'd definitely buy an Adam Strange ongoing, if supported by a good creative team. DnA, for example, are doing wonders on Nova at Marvel, they'd know how to write a good Adam Strange book for sure, and Ferry (unfortunately now exclusive to Marvel) did a great job on Planet Heist. Or JMS, now that they have him on board! He'd be a great choice, maybe coupled with Ethan Van Sciver, I'd love to see his take on Adam on a regular basis.

I know, I know, I'm dreaming with my eyes open :biggrin:

echopryme
06-12-2008, 02:31 PM
DnA are gonna be a little busy with The Authority for a while, so I doubt they'd do it.


Otherwise, I'd like to see more of the anthology mini's like they've been giving us lately. Planet Heist led to Rann/Thanagar War, which led to IC, which led to 52, which led to Omega Men, Countdown to Adventure, and Mystery in Space (which was GREAT), which is now leading to Rann/Thanagar: Holy War.


This whole Lady Styx mega-arc going on is interesting as hell to me, and they have REALLY developed this well so far. I'm waiting for it to leak out into the open of the DCU. The fact that the major players know jack about Lady Styx is allowing her to really position as a power player in the near future. And I love that by the time the GLC figures this out... they'll be outnumbered by "The Lady's" followers.

By the way. The Black Lanterns represent Death. Lady Styx is a personification of Death... hmmmm. :rolleyes:

Wonder Dude
06-12-2008, 06:35 PM
I'd like to see a continuation of the grouping from Rann/Thanagar: Holy War.
All of those characters could use the exposure and they allow more story ideas for those writers who aren't quite with it. It might last.

CBikle
06-12-2008, 07:06 PM
No, no, no!
Hard sci-fi has nothing to do with Adam Strange, and nor should it.
It's more pulpy John Carter style stuff (ie no reality) and that's what makes it great.
I like Ellis, but wouldn't want him any where near Adam Strange, it's just not his thing.

I dunno, I think Adam Strange stories would play to Warren's strengths and might work, so long as Ellis doesn't try and get cute and make Adam into a crossdresser or whatever.

Pól Rua
06-12-2008, 08:00 PM
I dunno, I think Adam Strange stories would play to Warren's strengths and might work, so long as Ellis doesn't try and get cute and make Adam into a crossdresser or whatever.

Honestly, you'd just probably ending up with Ellis turning Adam Strange into yet another of his hardboiled, take-no-prisoners hardasses who all talk in clipped sentences and take no prisoners while delivering pithy badass dialogue.
I'm not seeing it, myself.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
06-12-2008, 10:57 PM
Honestly, you'd just probably ending up with Ellis turning Adam Strange into yet another of his hardboiled, take-no-prisoners hardasses who all talk in clipped sentences and take no prisoners while delivering pithy badass dialogue.
I'm not seeing it, myself.

And as shown with Ultimate FF, Ellis likes to use real-world science even in superhero stories, which I think worked well for that book, but Adam Strange has never tried to have real world science - it's a much more Flash Gordon approach, which isn't to Ellis' strengths or interests.

I could actually see him, for fun, doing a one off or a mini where he takes a shot at explaining the transportation between planets, but it really would get bogged down.
I can't see him having enough interest in the worlds or scenarios of Adam Strange either.
I think Ellis can be a great writer, I just don't think this book would work for him - too many fantasy elements.

A Garth Ennis X-Men would be amusing to see as well, but I don't think he'd enjoy it much, and neither would the franchise.

Ian J.N.
06-12-2008, 11:10 PM
Would I read an Adam Strange ongoing? I don't know... *points to avatar*

I'd like to see an Adam Strange series that's less space opera and more sword and sorcery (or raygun and "sufficiently advanced technology"). Today Rann is depicted as a scientifically-advanced planet gone stagnant, but that's not how it was introduced:

Sardath: "A thousand years ago we had great scientific knowledge! We lost most of it when a nuclear war broke out between nations."

Alanna: "Our whole civilization reverted back to barbarism. People lived in widely scattered communities which soon became city-states--city-states which continuously warred with each other. Since then we've made slow but steady scientific progress..."


Thanks to Adam (in his very first adventure!), Ranagar jumped to the head of the class:

Alanna: "After Samakand went into the fourth dimension, its [pre-apocalypse] scientists came to live in Ranagar! Knowing they had only short months to live--since the vitatron that had kept them alive was in the fourth dimension--they recorded all their scientific knowledge on tape. With their science, we fashioned useful devices! Many primitive city-states thought we were sorcerers."


Ranagar and adjoining cities are scientifically advanced. Rann isn't. Therein lies a great fantasy epic. You've got "primitive city-states," warring kingdoms where invading aliens are demons, science is sorcery, pre-apocalyptic technology is ancient magic. And you've got Adam Strange, archaeologist, outsider, a great tactician who's destined to be Rann's savior--in ways, perhaps, more significant than ever before.

Adam: "It seems everytime I come to Rann, there's always another, more bizarre, menace to fight."

Alanna: "That's why fate singled you out to come to us. You're our champion, darling."


I'd like to see Busiek or Johns write the series or a similar writer who can pick up the places and characters Fox created and do some awesome world-building. I mean, you've got characters like Jakarta, an intensely radioactive "Dust Devil" whose species Adam (indirectly) exterminated, and Xar, the would-be emperor who placed himself in suspended animation after triggering the war that shattered civilization, and Agran, the Bronze Age scientist (!) who created the "brazen giant" Borg, an impossibly-big, impossible robot, legendary wonder of the ancient world.

Agran is referenced in Alanna's exposition, but he has no role in the story; he's not even pictured. I want to know who he is. I want to know about Kamorak on the Abyx, and the Misty Lands, and War Hammers, and Xllas. I'm sorry Alan Moore, but Adam Strange as a planetary "stud horse" is ridiculous, and there's a whole wide world to be explored. Let's explore it.

kcekada
06-14-2008, 04:46 PM
If it was the version we saw in the mini-series, and it was by Diggle and Ferry -- yes!

If it was by the people who brought us Countdown and Rann/Thanagar Holy War, then no.

It's a shame he's gone back to wearing the Silver Age outfit -- looks like something out of a 50s TV show.

Lupek
06-14-2008, 05:52 PM
I would buy an Adam Stange book sure. But it's got to be better than the first two issues of Rann Thanagar Holy have been. I'm not digging the art. And so far the story hasn't grabbed me like Starlins Mystery in Space mini did.

So yeah, I am up for an ongoing Adam Strange book, But I want it to be on the same level as Mystery in Space and Planet Heist.

One of the things I really liked about Starlins MiS mini was the Weird backup story that eventually tied into the main story. I would prefer a double feature type book with Adam Stange sharing the bill with Captain Comet one month and Hawkman or Omega Men next. Also, I'd have prefered the Atom Ray Palmer had been added to the DC Cosmos line up before Animal Man.

Superboy-Prime
06-14-2008, 06:37 PM
mystery in space? no! planet heist yes!

andy Diggle did a really good job witht he book.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
06-15-2008, 07:30 PM
It's a shame he's gone back to wearing the Silver Age outfit -- looks like something out of a 50s TV show.

That's the point!

That's why he rules!

Lupek
07-26-2008, 10:02 PM
How about a JMS written Adam Strange book?

Jack Zodiac
07-27-2008, 12:31 AM
I'd probably find Strac's narrative style too boring to keep me interested in what should be some fun, crazy space adventures starring an archaeologist with a jet pack and a laser gun.

Sean Whitmore
07-27-2008, 12:59 AM
Funky makes a good point about Ellis' affinity for "real" sci fi not being a good fit for Strange.

However, Ellis also did Nextwave. Tone down the comedy and keep the matter-of-fact treatment of totally off-the-wall monsters, and you'e got the perfect springboard for Adam Strange adventures.

And I like JMS, but no, this is not for him. Maybe he could do a Hardcore Station mini series or an Omega Men revamp, but I wouldn't want him in charge of doling out the geeky joygasms.


SEAN

Jack Zodiac
07-27-2008, 04:11 AM
I think I'd rather like Strac at Hardcore Station. Or, definitely, with L.E.G.I.O.N. and Vril Dox. !@#$, I bet Ellis and his "real" sci-fi would be great for either, too. But yeah, definitely not Adam Strange.

Sean Whitmore
07-27-2008, 04:13 AM
Oh, Jesus. Ellis writing Vril Dox.

Excuse me, I gotta check my pants.

Yep. I pooped 'em.


SEAN

Jack Zodiac
07-27-2008, 04:15 AM
Nope, that was me. The thought's so badass, I actually crapped your pants.

Lupek
07-27-2008, 08:23 PM
How about an Adam Strange book written by Palmiotti and Gray?

Lupek
08-14-2008, 06:59 PM
I didn't read Countdown to Adventure. Was it any good?

How was the Champ Hazard character? I kinda dig the name.

echopryme
08-14-2008, 09:46 PM
What is all this talk of Ellis and "real" science?!?!


Has anyone read The Authority, with it's dimensional hopping, Bleed riding, Shiftships from Sliding Albion (an alternate England where Aliens and Sicilians interbred)? Or Planetary with it's Snowflake Multiverse? Or Doktor Sleepless with it's "Shrieky Girls" who all share the same physical experiences that an individual feels due to nerve implants that are tied to a collective neural net that is shered and broadcast by all of them?!?!?!



Anyone that thinks that Ellis is just a hard science guy, needs to read more than FF.



Ellis would OWN Adam Strange.


And, as for the dialog? Doktor Sleepless never shuts the fuck up... that character talks for HOURS.

Samy
08-18-2008, 05:08 PM
Adam Strange as a character is not a sufficient draw for me. But with good creators, I'd sure give it a try.

Hatut Zeraze
08-18-2008, 08:02 PM
Put Robinson and Snjeberg on it, and I'd buy it!


I just got done rereading the Preacher: One Man's War Special with art by Snjeberg. I think I would buy any ongoing by any writer with art by Snjeberg. Of course, the writing would have to be at least decent to get me coming back monthe after month, but I'd be automatically drawn to check out anything he draws.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
08-18-2008, 08:31 PM
I just got done rereading the Preacher: One Man's War Special with art by Snjeberg. I think I would buy any ongoing by any writer with art by Snjeberg. Of course, the writing would have to be at least decent to get me coming back monthe after month, but I'd be automatically drawn to check out anything he draws.

He's a very good artist, although he did use a slightly different style on that than on Starman.
Still noticeably him, just slightly different.

mightyness
08-18-2008, 08:50 PM
I'd buy an Adam Strange series is written by either Griffen or Andy Diggle. As far as art is concerned I love it if Pasqual did the art again he has a unique style him and Ariel Oveletti would depict Adam Strange nicely. But regardless it would have to be a very strong creative team to get me on board for a monthly series.

Pól Rua
08-19-2008, 01:53 AM
I think I'd rather like Strac at Hardcore Station. Or, definitely, with L.E.G.I.O.N. and Vril Dox. !@#$, I bet Ellis and his "real" sci-fi would be great for either, too. But yeah, definitely not Adam Strange.

Nice call. Especially with JMS being a MAJOR Anglophile and LEGION being heavily influenced by Blake's Seven.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
08-19-2008, 03:25 AM
What is all this talk of Ellis and "real" science?!?!


Because it seems he mostly bases his technology off of predictions, his own and those of others, of where technology is heading - or he uses futuristic technology to make comments of todays technology and culture.
Adam Strange is closer to fantasy than science fiction, as I doubt any thought was put into the technology, and as such, I just don't see Ellis sitting comfortably on it.

Sean Walsh
08-19-2008, 05:51 AM
If they use either the recent space religion stuff like they are in RANN/THANAGAR: HOLY WAR or Lady Styx, then absolutely not. That stuff just doesn't interest me at all.

If it was your standard space adventuring stuff, then I'd probably warm up to that a lot more....

carabas
08-19-2008, 09:26 AM
In a heart beat, provided it was more along the lines of Andy Diggle's Planet Heist, or even mor classic Adam Strange stoties, and a lot less like Jim Starlin reliving his glory days, and without this pseuso-religious mess.

Herr Mike
08-19-2008, 09:42 AM
I tried the Diggle/Ferry mini and found it to be a total bore, but I'd check it out if the right creators were attached.

Lupek
08-26-2008, 10:19 AM
I've just recently read Adam Strange Man of Two Worlds.

Spoiler warning activated...........................



It was pretty good. Adam seemed a bit douchey cheating on his pregnant wife but I am not against character flaws so I am ok with that. Then Alanna croaks, which was a bit of a shock. But I did like the idea of the Rannians being sterile and forced to search for other ways to reproduce. And I guess Alanna's death was really setting the stage for Adam to fufill his role as planetary stud service. I think it would have been more interesting to explore that with her alive, but it was still pretty good.

The art was terrific.


And I also liked the bit about Alanna's mother being exiled out of the city state. They really could have gotten a lot of mileage out of the infertility angle and explored further what that situation would do to relationships, marriages and society.Too bad they dumped this idea.

I know Alanna was back for Planet Heist but did they just ignore Man of Two Worlds or was there an issue of something, somewhere where they explained Alanna being alive again?

oh and Sardath is an incredible d!ck in this. I guess he is a always portrayed as a jerk but he seemed especially jerky leaving his daughter while she was about to give birth. And there is a never a followup scene with Sardath showing any remorse after Alanna dies. Jerk!

Stanlos
08-26-2008, 10:27 AM
You know, I don't understand why Strange doesn't get a good ongoing title. Does he really sell that poorly?

And I know he's appearing now a lot in the DCU, and I appreciate his appearances. He did 52, and then a stint in Mystery after the R/T War. But how about a good Adam Strange ongoing book?

I've been reading the JLA and JSA titles (the last ones that were cancelled before being relaunched, not the current ones) and there's some good stuff in them.

The JSA title got me interested in that (especially Doctor Midnight - what an awesome character) and the JLA has the story where it looks like Adam has gone nuts got me interested more into his character. Very good stuff, with the tragic "can't be with your wife you love" motif.

That story, plus the Adam Strange mini that came out just before 52 and the Rann/Thanagar War show me that he would be great as a central character in a book.

I'm going to track down some of the older issues now of his mini's and I think he had an ongoing back in the late 80's early 90's that I may be able to find on ebay or milehigh or something. With that and the JSA pre-crisis books I'm tracking I think I'm in for a lot of reading coming up. :biggrin:

Oh, and PS whoever told me the Rock of Ages was good? Wow. Good, but...hurt my head. I need to reread it. Thanks!

If by the same team and quality as that which brought us the awesome PLANET HEIST? Absolutely!

Lupek
09-14-2008, 08:25 PM
I was very dissapointed with the Adam Strange Special.

Oofah.