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Nefarius
06-05-2008, 01:08 PM
I mean,we have respect threads for Goblins and symbiotes,but no love for our good doctor.:frown:

Dr. Ghost
06-05-2008, 01:31 PM
you could start by spelling his name correctly.

RazorBats79
06-05-2008, 01:56 PM
I respect his intelligence. I even feel bad for him after reading what happened to his father in Spectacular Spidey. Truly f*cked up!

Darkhalen
06-05-2008, 02:51 PM
He tried to marry aunt may for what he belived to be her money....respect to the only Spider-Man villain who dares force Peter to call him uncle.

AbdulAziz
06-05-2008, 03:00 PM
Dr. Octopus deserve thousand times the respect the symbiotes get.
Go Gunther (Otto Gunther Octavius)

Darkhalen
06-05-2008, 03:08 PM
Dr. Octopus deserve thousand times the respect the symbiotes get.
Go Gunther (Otto Gunther Octavius)

Not really, as in symbiotes only one deserves more respect then Ock, that would be Venom the other symbiotes

Carnage
Scream
Agony
Lasher
Phage
Riot
Toxin
and if you want to include Dreadface

yeah them not so much.

Alan2099
06-05-2008, 03:38 PM
I wouldn't say Venom deserves as much respect as Ock either. Close manybe, but not quite.

If nothing else, Dr. octopus has come closer to conqoruingnthe world than any other Spider-man villian multiple times.

Nefarius
06-05-2008, 03:39 PM
Not really, as in symbiotes only one deserves more respect then Ock, that would be Venom the other symbiotes

Carnage
Scream
Agony
Lasher
Phage
Riot
Toxin
and if you want to include Dreadface

yeah them not so much.
Venom is lame compared to our dear doctor.:cool:

Nefarius
06-05-2008, 03:40 PM
you could start by spelling his name correctly.

Touche:rolleyes:

JonniRandom
06-05-2008, 03:44 PM
I LOVE Doc Ock, he cool.

matthewaos
06-05-2008, 03:53 PM
Not really, as in symbiotes only one deserves more respect then Ock, that would be Venom the other symbiotes

Carnage
Scream
Agony
Lasher
Phage
Riot
Toxin
and if you want to include Dreadface

yeah them not so much.

I am surprised that I don't know who those guys are, between Scream and Toxin, and I really don't wanna know...

To be honest I never really was a Doc Ock fan. I think he is just OK. Though I loved when Larsen got to draw him with that white suit, and I loved the Year One mini (just referring it cause I maybe the only one that loved it). But overall I don't really care about him.

HeckBoy
06-05-2008, 03:58 PM
you could start by spelling his name correctly.Oh the irony. The good Doc really doesn't get any respect. :tongue:

Nefarius
06-05-2008, 04:01 PM
I am surprised that I don't know who those guys are, between Scream and Toxin, and I really don't wanna know...

To be honest I never really was a Doc Ock fan. I think he is just OK. Though I loved when Larsen got to draw him with that white suit, and I loved the Year One mini (just referring it cause I maybe the only one that loved it). But overall I don't really care about him.

I love Larsen's Ock.He was so cool in his white business suit.I believe that Ock is truly the anti-spiderman in terms that he's self-centered,paranoid and he use science for selfish reasons,while Spidey loves science and wants to be usefull for the society.But,the best think about him is that he can go toe to toe with Spiderman.His battles with webhead are my favourites beside the original Hobgoblin/Spidey battles.

RazorBats79
06-05-2008, 04:14 PM
Not really, as in symbiotes only one deserves more respect then Ock, that would be Venom the other symbiotes

Carnage
Scream
Agony
Lasher
Phage
Riot
Toxin
and if you want to include Dreadface

yeah them not so much.

WTF?! I know only 2 off that list! Are those some of the funky colored ones?
(I would settle for any symbiote though, even if it was pink!)

DeadXMan
06-05-2008, 04:39 PM
I mean,we have respect threads for Goblins and symbiotes,but no love for our good doctor.:frown:

I refuse to respect anyone who trades in a bowl cut for a mullet

Cody H
06-05-2008, 05:24 PM
I mean,we have respect threads for Goblins and symbiotes,but no love for our good doctor.:frown:I'm pretty sure we actually do have a respect thread for Dr. Ock. Pretty sure I remember one from a few years back. Might be hard to dig it up though. Then again, it might not.

RhynoWoody
06-05-2008, 05:50 PM
I refuse to respect anyone who trades in a bowl cut for a mullet

What's more villainous than a bowl haircut? That's right...A MULLET. Mullets demand both fear and respect from it's wearer opponents.

DeadXMan
06-05-2008, 05:54 PM
A mullet isn't villainous

Both Tonk Stark and Bishop have had mullets and they're.....not......., never mind:redface:

ReggieWhiteJr
06-05-2008, 06:04 PM
I respect the Doc. He's my 2nd fav Spidey villain. And he got one of the best lines in Spectacular Spider-Man when he went nuts and snapped at Osborn. "SILENCE, you imperious moron!!" Thanks to Ock, I can now call people imperious morons!! :biggrin:

DeadXMan
06-05-2008, 06:09 PM
Hair style aside, I must respect anyone who bag Aunt May and not go blind

Both Doc Ock and Skrullvais are hardcore Players

Cody H
06-05-2008, 06:11 PM
I respect the Doc. He's my 2nd fav Spidey villain. And he got one of the best lines in Spectacular Spider-Man when he went nuts and snapped at Osborn. "SILENCE, you imperious moron!!" Thanks to Ock, I can now call people imperious morons!! :biggrin:I enjoy his use of the term troglodyte.

RhynoWoody
06-05-2008, 09:35 PM
Hair style aside, I must respect anyone who bag Aunt May and not go blind

May is sexy. I bet she's wild in the sack. Very knowledgeable.

All that aside, I give my respek to Doc Ock. He's a nefarious individual, and hands down one of Spidey's more dangerous adversaries. I wouldn't put much past him.

yadadaimhollaing
06-05-2008, 10:49 PM
No other villian has bitch slapped spiderman as many times as doc ock

Doc ock marrying aunt may was awesome. Nothing like trying to marry a chick, taking possesion of her property and killing her.

Mister Mets
06-05-2008, 11:20 PM
The tentacles are iconic. He's been in a lot of great stories. And he may just be the definitive comic book mad scientist. So he deserves some props.

RedRonin
06-06-2008, 01:31 AM
Hopefully, he's next appearance is something big. Doc Ock needs a real big kick ass moment, that he hasn't gotten in some time.

Rahul
06-06-2008, 04:03 AM
I could never take Doctor Octopus seriously (on appearance) because his mechanical tentacles werent really drawn very menacingly. Only the movie has had the best visual adaptaion of Doctor Octopus, 'cause you know he's one dangerous fellow, with the big crushing arms rather than the pinky sized claws the tentacles in the comics had that could only push and hug people.

So obviously the strengths of Doc came from his personality and achievements as opposed to his powers. I mean, having nearly married Aunt May, having nearly killed Black Cat, having killed Captain Stacy . He's one greasy, arrogant criminal who cares only about himself most of the time, and only a select few when it suits him, thats the Octopus I like.

Darkhalen
06-06-2008, 08:29 AM
Ock is a great villain, i really enjoy watching him in the spectacular Spider-Man series...also he's the best villain out of the Spider-Man movies
He also tried to marry aunt may so +1 for that!

And just to clear this up
Scream and Agony are Venom's daughters
Lasher, Phage, Riot are his other son's
Carnage and Toxin...well we all know of them
Dreadface is a symbiote that attacked the FF and was killed.

Mister Mets
06-06-2008, 09:16 AM
I could never take Doctor Octopus seriously (on appearance) because his mechanical tentacles werent really drawn very menacingly. Only the movie has had the best visual adaptaion of Doctor Octopus, 'cause you know he's one dangerous fellow, with the big crushing arms rather than the pinky sized claws the tentacles in the comics had that could only push and hug people.

So obviously the strengths of Doc came from his personality and achievements as opposed to his powers. I mean, having nearly married Aunt May, having nearly killed Black Cat, having killed Captain Stacy . He's one greasy, arrogant criminal who cares only about himself most of the time, and only a select few when it suits him, thats the Octopus I like.

He's arrogant, and also somewhat pathetic, which helps make him an interesting character.

Plus the octopus motif makes him a logical for for Spider-Man (the "eight" motif.)

ZT4
06-06-2008, 09:28 AM
I remember that awesome Spidey story Peter mistook a kid for Doc Ock and nearly killed him...and Ock's seen in the closing pages hardly flattered by the impersonation.

Rahul
06-06-2008, 10:04 AM
He's arrogant, and also somewhat pathetic, which helps make him an interesting character.

Plus the octopus motif makes him a logical for for Spider-Man (the "eight" motif.)
Thats what I said, his personality and achievements make him one of the major Spider-Villains. Not the way he's drawn though. I'm actually one of the few who likes the post movie makeover he got minus the mullet.

Mister Mets
06-06-2008, 10:07 AM
I remember that awesome Spidey story Peter mistook a kid for Doc Ock and nearly killed him...and Ock's seen in the closing pages hardly flattered by the impersonation.
Peter Parker the Spectacular Spider-Man #72.

The prologue to the Octopus/ Owl gang war story, which itself led into possibly the best Spider-Man VS Doctor Octopus story in issues 78-79.

matthewaos
06-06-2008, 02:30 PM
This that I liked:

Larsen white suit
Zeb Wells's Year One
Jenkins spectacular story
Revenge of the Sinister Six
Sacasa's one shot in Spectacular
The Lee "unmasking" issue
Master Planner saga

This I didn't like:
More or less the rest, but specifically--

The "real" unmasking in clone saga and his death after that
His resurrection
Lady Octopus
Master Programmer (tragically lame)
His outfit (a green jumpsuit)
Chapter One outfit (a green outfit of a cult priest or something)

EDIT: I think it's not necessary to point my general disgust over Chapter One)

Jim Thompson
06-06-2008, 02:32 PM
Personally, I think it's Doc Ock, not the Green Goblin, who's Spider-Man's number one enemy.

matthewaos
06-06-2008, 02:45 PM
Personally, I think it's Doc Ock, not the Green Goblin, who's Spider-Man's number one enemy.

No

:wink:

Cody H
06-06-2008, 03:57 PM
This I didn't like:
More or less the rest, but specifically--

The "real" unmasking in clone saga and his death after thatI'm surprised, I actually thought that was a great moment. I thought Ock's rationale for wanting to save Spider-Man was excellent and it was only fair that he got to see who was really behind the mask before his "death."

Alan2099
06-06-2008, 04:19 PM
No

:wink:

Yes. Green Goblin is far overrated. Far far FAR overrated. really, he wasn't that special to begin with and he's only gotten worse since being brought back from the dead.

Dr. Octopus is Peter's opposite in all the ways that really count.

ViciousX
06-06-2008, 04:24 PM
Yes. Green Goblin is far overrated. Far far FAR overrated. really, he wasn't that special to begin with and he's only gotten worse since being brought back from the dead.

Dr. Octopus is Peter's opposite in all the ways that really count.

Ahem...

http://www.spideykicksbutt.com/GreenwithEvil/goblinlegacy.html
http://www.spideykicksbutt.com/GreenwithEvil/NormansReturn.html
http://www.spideykicksbutt.com/GreenwithEvil/goblinmysteries.html

Alan2099
06-06-2008, 04:25 PM
Yeah. I've read those. I stand by my point. For the most part, Green Goblin's status as the number 1 badguy happened in the story that killed him and people didn't start to think of him as number 1 until far after he was gone. Kind of a lousey way to have a rivalry.

lonewolf23k
06-06-2008, 04:33 PM
On a slight tangent, I think the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon's version of Doc Ock is one of the best I've seen in years. He's intelligent, aggressive, and an effective combatant.

ViciousX
06-06-2008, 04:35 PM
On a slight tangent, I think the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon's version of Doc Ock is one of the best I've seen in years. He's intelligent, aggressive, and an effective combatant.

Agreed. I enjoyed his first appearance, but his Sinister Six appearance really sold him.

"Impaling."

Nefarius
06-06-2008, 04:44 PM
On a slight tangent, I think the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon's version of Doc Ock is one of the best I've seen in years. He's intelligent, aggressive, and an effective combatant.

This cartoon renew my respect for him.

Venom
06-07-2008, 07:59 AM
Doctor Octopus is a fantastic villain and definitely one of Spidey's best rouges out there. It's been a while since we've had a good Doc Ock story and I think that it's about time he had one again. I wouldn't be surprised if Dan Slott uses him next after his "New Ways To Die" arc. Hell, I'm hoping Dan Slott will eventually use Doc Ock.

matthewaos
06-07-2008, 08:26 AM
I'm surprised, I actually thought that was a great moment. I thought Ock's rationale for wanting to save Spider-Man was excellent and it was only fair that he got to see who was really behind the mask before his "death."

Actually I think that he should not have died, that was for no reason. And also, I liked his reaction better in Sensational Spider-Man (during CW), rather than the sympathetic villain thing. I just don't imagine Doc Ock as something like that.

Yes. Green Goblin is far overrated. Far far FAR overrated. really, he wasn't that special to begin with and he's only gotten worse since being brought back from the dead.

Dr. Octopus is Peter's opposite in all the ways that really count.

OK, I'm not sure I can disagree more...

Ahem...

http://www.spideykicksbutt.com/GreenwithEvil/goblinlegacy.html
http://www.spideykicksbutt.com/GreenwithEvil/NormansReturn.html
http://www.spideykicksbutt.com/GreenwithEvil/goblinmysteries.html

I love that guy, I think his articles are awesome!

Cody H
06-07-2008, 01:34 PM
Actually I think that he should not have died, that was for no reason. And also, I liked his reaction better in Sensational Spider-Man (during CW), rather than the sympathetic villain thing. I just don't imagine Doc Ock as something like that.I thought his death in Web of Death (i.e., during the Clone Saga) actually made sense because he finally found out that Peter was Spider-Man. That is, if he had lived, I think he would've been a little too dangerous in that he could easily fall back on using his knowledge of Spider-Man's identity to kill him in any number of ways. Kind of like, catch Ock on a good day, and he'd scheme youinto a trap or something but catch him on a bad day and he'd walk into your apartment and beat you to death while you slept.

I also thought Ock's attempts to save Spidey made and his relationship with Stunner sense, adding a somewhat human side to the character, which is where the sympathetic part comes in, I guess (though I didn't feel particularly sympathetic to him). Actually come to think of it, I guess it kind of means Ock really does need a girlfriend.

matthewaos
06-07-2008, 02:17 PM
Well, I think that the megalomaniac and egocentric man he is would notwant to cure Peter, after learning who he is. He would probably freak out, for letting him escape so many years before. That's what I think at least. By the way the story is really well written (at least the ASM parts). And although I am a huge DeMatteis fan, I think it's the only time that he is trying to add depth in a character and it does not fit right. I don't know, maybe it was also editorial.

ReggieWhiteJr
06-07-2008, 05:33 PM
I would never dis a man who has four metal arms and can break stuff with said arms. Unless I could shoot webs in his face.

spiderman_rj
06-07-2008, 08:02 PM
last i've read,he was killed by a DEFECTIVE clone of his foe,so no respect from me.

Nick MB
06-08-2008, 04:13 AM
Doc Ock is a great character design but never seemed to be able to get enough big time respect due to a lack of coherent characterisation. Is he a ranting lunatic? A world-conquering megalomaniac? Hell bent on revenge on Spidey? Vaguely sympathetic and misunderstood? He could easily be all of the above, I suppose, but whenever Ock appears, he seems like a different guy to his previous appearances.

Quite liking Ultimate Doc Ock so far, if only because being written by the same guy every time he appears makes him a little bit more coherent.

Dark Soul # 7
06-08-2008, 04:32 AM
Doc Ock is a great character design but never seemed to be able to get enough big time respect due to a lack of coherent characterisation. Is he a ranting lunatic? A world-conquering megalomaniac? Hell bent on revenge on Spidey? Vaguely sympathetic and misunderstood? He could easily be all of the above, I suppose, but whenever Ock appears, he seems like a different guy to his previous appearances.He could very well be all of the above. IIRC he's clinically insane so some amount of incoherence is to be expected, and really those options are pretty close to each other.

I do love Otto. He's a great supervillain mastermind that can match Spider-man in physically and verbally. And while he doesn't have the same advantaged as the Green Gobli of knowing Spidey's identity he is able to focus on something besides making Spider-man's life miserable.

Alan2099
06-08-2008, 08:40 AM
last i've read,he was killed by a DEFECTIVE clone of his foe,so no respect from me.

A defective clone that repeatedly beat the tar out of the real guy with no effort on several occassions. The only reason he was defective was because of some scar tissue on his face.

Toku King
06-09-2008, 03:27 PM
you could start by spelling his name correctly.

1) He did.
2) You should start by using proper grammar.

Toku King
06-09-2008, 03:29 PM
last i've read,he was killed by a DEFECTIVE clone of his foe,so no respect from me.

Defective was used for the moral status of Kaine, not physical or skillful.