View Full Version : Interesting theory on Sara Ehret
Eye Doc
06-05-2008, 08:27 AM
I must begin the post by stressing that the below theory is not mine. I found this on the link below while surfing the web.
I'm not buying BND, but it's pretty easy to stay informed thru forums such as this. After finding out that MJ showed up in AMZ 560 last month, I decided to scan thru AMZ 561 in the store yesterday. What this guy says is kind of interesting in regards to Sara's role in the new status quo.
---
http://www.marvel.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=120586&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10&sid=de58c200b8174e8f0163a49a50240d6f
It's now quite obvious that MJ remembers everything. It's also obvious part of her deal involves not being able to tell Peter. She realy doesn't think of him as a murderer; she just has to "front". If she doesn't, she gets a "visitor"...Sara Ehret. That last page was no coincidence. I thought, when Sara was first introduced, that she looked like the mysterious "lady in red" from OMD. I'm now convinced she is. I'm also convinced her role is to make sure MJ holds up to her part of the bargain.
This could also be the "way out". If the day comes that MJ does reveal the "deal" to Pete, it could set up a battle of all battles with Mephisto. This is just my opinion, based on nothing. But at this point, I'm looking for anything I can.
-----
After reading his theory, I became curious as to whether or not Sara appeared in any BND issues that didn't feature Jackpot or MJ. So far she hasn't. I learned that she appeared in AMZ 551 which featured Jackpot and again in AMZ 561 which featured MJ.
I repeat that this isn't my theory. But, I can't help but wonder if the guy who posted this is on to something. It'll be interesting to see if Sara always shows up just after MJ or Jackpot has an encounter with Peter or Spider-Man.
CMBMOOL
06-05-2008, 08:34 AM
You are not alone in thinking like this, for this is a good theory. :redface:
beachball8
06-05-2008, 09:16 AM
So Sara is Mephisto? Is this possible? IS that y she wears red?
mikerrrrr
06-05-2008, 09:26 AM
Sara does interrupt MJ right as she's about to call Peter.
Eye Doc
06-05-2008, 09:28 AM
You are not alone in thinking like this, for this is a good theory. :redface:
It seems like just before OMD concluded I read an interesting post on a website. It may, or may not, have been this one. The poster said that he was privy to some secrets about OMD #4. He said that MJ would be the one to make the deal with Mephisto. While Peter had to give the final OK, it was MJ who intially accepted the offer. So the poster was right in that regard.
The poster also said that once the deal was made, MJ could never tell Peter what happened. If she did there would be serious repurcussions for her, Peter, and possibly the MU as a whole. Well, we all know that MJ whispered something to Mephisto before the deal was consummated. That scene could've easily been left out of the issue without really affecting the story at all. It was put there for a reason. Time will tell whether or not the above theory is correct. I believe the deal needs to be revisited sometime down the road. Never acknowledging it again would be a huge copout.
I dont think Marvel have been making it any secret MJ's deal is to remember everything and suffer seperation, going through with adultery also fits Mephisto's ideals. They ARE going to explore this again, and Issue 600 is the pay-off to OMD no matter if it restores the marraige or the relationship.
Eye Doc
06-05-2008, 10:40 AM
I dont think Marvel have been making it any secret MJ's deal is to remember everything and suffer seperation, going through with adultery also fits Mephisto's ideals. They ARE going to explore this again, and Issue 600 is the pay-off to OMD no matter if it restores the marraige or the relationship.
I tend to agree with, especially after reading the Tom Brevoort quote below.
http://www.marvel.com/blogs/TomBrevoort/entry/1169
--Dan Slott and I talked through the storyline for AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #600 over lunch. It’ll either be one for the ages, or finito for the bunch of us.
You have to love Tom's warning people about "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" requiring you to leave your appreciation of the mythos at the door when you go in...
Hertz
06-05-2008, 11:17 AM
If this is correct, or at least close, then it gives the end of 551 an interesting twist.
Muscles Coleman
06-05-2008, 03:44 PM
I'm very much looking forward to where this is all going. I'm hoping that eventually we will get OMD payoff, although I don't necessarily want the marriage back. People must be clamoring for a Spidey/Mephisto throwdown.
Assassin Spider
06-05-2008, 04:18 PM
I'm very much looking forward to where this is all going. I'm hoping that eventually we will get OMD payoff, although I don't necessarily want the marriage back. People must be clamoring for a Spidey/Mephisto throwdown.
Damn straight we want a Spider-Man/Mephisto throwdown.
Mephisto took from Peter and Mary Jane the one constant good thing they had in their respective lives: each other. He manipulated their feelings for Peter's Aunt May so that he could take something from them that should have been the most priceless thing in the world. When Peter finds out, he is going to be in such a fury that he let himself be manipulated like that, that he let himself be so weak, and that Mephisto essentially took a piece of his soul, that Mephisto will truly know the meaning of the phrase "Hell hath no fury."
Sure, Spidey's outclassed. For all his capabilities, he's just a mortal . . . and Mephisto is a Hell Lord. But, Spidey has the one thing Mephisto does not, a soul, and maybe that will give him the strength to see this fight through and even triumph.
Eye Doc
06-06-2008, 10:27 AM
Damn straight we want a Spider-Man/Mephisto throwdown.
Mephisto took from Peter and Mary Jane the one constant good thing they had in their respective lives: each other. He manipulated their feelings for Peter's Aunt May so that he could take something from them that should have been the most priceless thing in the world. When Peter finds out, he is going to be in such a fury that he let himself be manipulated like that, that he let himself be so weak, and that Mephisto essentially took a piece of his soul, that Mephisto will truly know the meaning of the phrase "Hell hath no fury."
Sure, Spidey's outclassed. For all his capabilities, he's just a mortal . . . and Mephisto is a Hell Lord. But, Spidey has the one thing Mephisto does not, a soul, and maybe that will give him the strength to see this fight through and even triumph.
Hopefully we'll get a big confrontation down the road. I think the story would be even more complelling if the writer gave Mephisto more of a motivation for doing what he did. Why was peter's marriage so important to Jophisto....I mean Mephisto?
This thread got me to thinking about an old AMZ story from the 1980's. The issue was AMZ 274. It was a tie in to the Secret Wars II miniseries. Someone put a hit on the Kingpin. Spider-Man was trying to save his life. However, there was a huge obstacle in the way. Mephisto wanted to see Peter fail. In the story Mephisto used his powers to torment Peter phyiscally and mentally because he wanted to see Peter fail. The Beyonder and Mephisto watched the whole thing play out from the sidelines. The two of them sort of had a "cosmic bet" as to whether or not Peter would succeed or fail in his goal. The story seemed to be a take on the biblical account of Job. .
Mephisto did everything he could to make Peter give up. Peter never did (which is why I found the ending to OMD so appalling....but we've already been down that road ) He eventually saved the Kingpin's life. Even Mephisto seemed impressed by Peter's morality becasue he was going all out to save NY's most notorious crime boss while experiencing extreme mental and physical anguish.
I think it would be interesting to tie AMZ 274 and OMD together. Perhaps Mephisto's hatred of Peter began there.
Do any of you guys remember this tale? I think it's a very underrated story from Tom DeFalco and Ron Frenz and seems to be pretty much forgotten by most Spidey fans.
CMBMOOL
06-06-2008, 10:34 AM
Hopefully we'll get a big confrontation down the road. I think the story would be even more complelling if the writer gave Mephisto more of a motivation for doing what he did. Why was peter's marriage so important to Jophisto....I mean Mephisto?
This thread got me to thinking about an old AMZ story from the 1980's. The issue was AMZ 274. It was a tie in to the Secret Wars II miniseries. Someone put a hit on the Kingpin. Spider-Man was trying to save his life. However, there was a huge obstacle in the way. Mephisto wanted to see Peter fail. In the story Mephisto used his powers to torment Peter phyiscally and mentally because he wanted to see Peter fail. The Beyonder and Mephisto watched the whole thing play out from the sidelines. The two of them sort of had a "cosmic bet" as to whether or not Peter would succeed or fail in his goal. The story seemed to be a take on the biblical account of Job. .
Mephisto did everything he could to make Peter give up. Peter never did (which is why O found the ending to OMD so appalling....but we've already been down that road ) He eventually saved the Kingpin's life. Even Mephisto seemed impressed by Peter's morality becasue he was going all out to save NY's most notorious crime boss while experiencing extreme mental and physical anguish.
I think it would be interesting to tie AMZ 274 and OMD together. Perhaps Mephisto's hatred of Peter began there.
Do any of you guys remember this tale? I think it's a very underrated story from Tom DeFalco and Ron Frenz and seems to be pretty much forgotten by most Spidey fans.
You mean this story....:tongue:
http://spiderfan.org/comics/title/spiderman_amazing-12.html
Do any of you guys remember this tale? I think it's a very underrated story from Tom DeFalco and Ron Frenz and seems to be pretty much forgotten by most Spidey fans.
Tom and Ron already explored a Spidey/Mephisto deal and made it logical enough to not only happen, but anything that contradicts Peter in a similar situation looks stupid in comparison
CyberHubbs
06-06-2008, 10:42 AM
I must begin the post by stressing that the below theory is not mine. I found this on the link below while surfing the web.
I'm not buying BND, but it's pretty easy to stay informed thru forums such as this. After finding out that MJ showed up in AMZ 560 last month, I decided to scan thru AMZ 561 in the store yesterday. What this guy says is kind of interesting in regards to Sara's role in the new status quo.
---
http://www.marvel.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=120586&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10&sid=de58c200b8174e8f0163a49a50240d6f
It's now quite obvious that MJ remembers everything. It's also obvious part of her deal involves not being able to tell Peter. She realy doesn't think of him as a murderer; she just has to "front". If she doesn't, she gets a "visitor"...Sara Ehret. That last page was no coincidence. I thought, when Sara was first introduced, that she looked like the mysterious "lady in red" from OMD. I'm now convinced she is. I'm also convinced her role is to make sure MJ holds up to her part of the bargain.
This could also be the "way out". If the day comes that MJ does reveal the "deal" to Pete, it could set up a battle of all battles with Mephisto. This is just my opinion, based on nothing. But at this point, I'm looking for anything I can.
-----
After reading his theory, I became curious as to whether or not Sara appeared in any BND issues that didn't feature Jackpot or MJ. So far she hasn't. I learned that she appeared in AMZ 551 which featured Jackpot and again in AMZ 561 which featured MJ.
I repeat that this isn't my theory. But, I can't help but wonder if the guy who posted this is on to something. It'll be interesting to see if Sara always shows up just after MJ or Jackpot has an encounter with Peter or Spider-Man.
I think MJ 'remembering' is too obvious. At least her remembering OMD.
Sara is going to end up being Jackpot, but as the meeting in the airport terminal points out, there is a connection between her and MJ. Maybe MJ was the real Jackpot, but then she 'retired' because of Spidey's involvement in Civil War, and they had Sara come in to don the funky bell-bottoms afterward.
It's funny that people are seeing Mephisto everywhere. I don't think that's the case with these two, though. Sara is just going to end up being a new supporting character in Spidey's life. Maybe even a love interest in-costume because she reminds him of MJ.
Eye Doc
06-06-2008, 10:58 AM
Sara is going to end up being Jackpot, but as the meeting in the airport terminal points out, there is a connection between her and MJ. Maybe MJ was the real Jackpot, but then she 'retired' because of Spidey's involvement in Civil War, and they had Sara come in to don the funky bell-bottoms afterward.
It's funny that people are seeing Mephisto everywhere. I don't think that's the case with these two, though. Sara is just going to end up being a new supporting character in Spidey's life. Maybe even a love interest in-costume because she reminds him of MJ.
I hope they don't go that route. If Jackpot turns out to be anyone else but MJ it's not going to go over well. Saying that Peter has a red head exflame and a new red head superhero love interest that looks and talks like the former is corny. :rolleyes: Having male leads fall in love with chicks that look like their ex girlfriends is a formula for failure in the long run. Just look at the Jean Grey/Madleyne Pryor fiasco in the X-Verse. :frown:
CyberHubbs
06-06-2008, 11:03 AM
I hope they don't go that route. If Jackpot turns out to be anyone else but MJ it's not going to go over well. Saying that Peter has a red head exflame and a new red head superhero love interest that looks and talks like the former is corny. :rolleyes: Having male leads fall in love with chicks that look like their ex girlfriends is a formula for failure in the long run. Just look at the Jean Grey/Madleyne Pryor fiasco in the X-Verse. :frown:
Or Jackpot continues to have the 'sidekick' relationship with Spidey. Whichever.
At this point, unless there's some huge twist, I don't see MJ turning out to be Jackpot. But as Mister Mets said in another post, it could turn out that at some point MJ *does* wear the suit.
With Jackpot's enthuisam for Spidey, and her Secret Invasion spotlight showing her using camera work to take photographs (something Felicia was doing...almost scene-for-scene during the original Alien Coustume arc), who knows where she's getting her tips. If MJ is a mentor to Erhet, she's using everything she's learned from Peter to advice her, including to turn the other cheek where fugitives like Spidey are concerned and help him out if there alone together.
MJ may also want to eventually "bring in Peter" to her little group that she'd have with Sara, but is hard-pressed to do so for whatever reason (past history, afraid he'll hate her...a fear that's gripped her before etc)
Jim Thompson
06-06-2008, 11:44 AM
Just a quick aside here, but am I the only one out there who finds the whole Jackpot sub-story to be really uninteresting?
CyberHubbs
06-06-2008, 11:47 AM
Just a quick aside here, but am I the only one out there who finds the whole Jackpot sub-story to be really uninteresting?
Maybe? I'm sure there's different levels of importance which the fans assign to the sub-story. It's somewhere in the middle for me, but only because I like the sidekick angle. And because trying to figure out her identity is driving Peter a little crazy.
Stikman13
06-06-2008, 11:47 AM
Just a quick aside here, but am I the only one out there who finds the whole Jackpot sub-story to be really uninteresting?
I didn't find her interesting in the slightest...right up until MJ and Sara met face to face. Now, I'm very interested in where this is going.
Just a quick aside here, but am I the only one out there who finds the whole Jackpot sub-story to be really uninteresting?
It's definatly not entertaining or generally well-written. It's a good topic of conversation, but that's about it. Jackpot and MJ's current status doesnt fit Spider-Man at all.
SkinFromBone
06-06-2008, 04:25 PM
never mind ;p
Monty_Cristo
06-06-2008, 04:41 PM
is Sara Ehret an anagram? i ask because 'Ehret' is kind of an unusual last name. Sara 'There?' oh why can't it mean something so i'll seem smart?!! :frown:
Hertz
06-06-2008, 04:52 PM
is Sara Ehret an anagram? i ask because 'Ehret' is kind of an unusual last name. Sara 'There?' oh why can't it mean something so i'll seem smart?!! :frown:
only half way decent one i could think of is Ares heart. In any case, since they've given Sara similar facial structure and eye color, the possibility that they both are or have been Jackpot exists. But, I think that it's only going to be one of them and that the similarity is there to add to the "mystery"/"drama".
Matt Linton
06-06-2008, 08:11 PM
It's not an anagram. It's apparently a name that Guggenheim likes to use (he named a character in the TV show Jack and Bobby "Sara Ehret").
lazlo_toth
06-06-2008, 08:31 PM
It's now quite obvious that MJ remembers everything. It's also obvious part of her deal involves not being able to tell Peter. She realy doesn't think of him as a murderer; she just has to "front". If she doesn't, she gets a "visitor"...Sara Ehret. That last page was no coincidence. I thought, when Sara was first introduced, that she looked like the mysterious "lady in red" from OMD. I'm now convinced she is. I'm also convinced her role is to make sure MJ holds up to her part of the bargain.
This could also be the "way out". If the day comes that MJ does reveal the "deal" to Pete, it could set up a battle of all battles with Mephisto. This is just my opinion, based on nothing. But at this point, I'm looking for anything I can.
Hey, if we're gonna go down that road, if you read through the BND issues that have come out so far, Peter hasn't said or done anything that clearly shows that HE doesn't remember the marriage. Maybe that pesky Mephisto has Peter and MJ both thinking that the other has forgotten along with the rest of the world and that they can't say anything or Aunt May dies again or the sky falls in or a thousand kittens will die horribly or whatever. That kind of quasi-shakespearean irony is very much in character for Mephisto...
SkinFromBone
06-07-2008, 09:47 AM
I think I like the MJ is Menace and Sara is (a loon) Jackpot theory :cool:
StumboTheGiant
06-07-2008, 10:44 AM
only half way decent one i could think of is Ares heart. In any case, since they've given Sara similar facial structure and eye color, the possibility that they both are or have been Jackpot exists. But, I think that it's only going to be one of them and that the similarity is there to add to the "mystery"/"drama".
But you can move the s and make it "are hearts". Or what about adding a h to sara and making it sarah. Then you can get "Hear Hearts". Maybe hear your hearts desire. Hey I'm bored so dont shoot me.
What ever happened to the whole "I remember being married to my true love Gwen Stacy and having a son with her" from House of M......
What ever happened to the whole "I remember being married to my true love Gwen Stacy and having a son with her" from House of M......
That was Wanda making the decisions for Peter (he wanted ALL of his loved ones safe), MJ became a succesful actress anmd ended up playing Gwen in a series of Spider-Man movies.
Gwen isnt his true love, she's just his biggest guilt-trip. MJ is his true love. I suspect that if the House of M reality had continued, Gwen would have realized MJ and Peter were meant for each other (another reason I think the "legit" Gwen shagged Norman Osborn was out of despair over this very realization), and left him.
Maybe but there's still the fact that he lost his "son".
Maybe but there's still the fact that he lost his "son".
True...I dont know how Marvel can say that DIDNT age the character either...
God, we've got a LOT to clean up dont we?
Matt Linton
06-07-2008, 01:14 PM
Gwen was his true love. Then she died. Now MJ is his true love.
I wouldn't mind seeing spiderman beat on quicksilver again, that'd be fun
spiderman_rj
06-07-2008, 01:18 PM
dont waste your breath linton,some people will never get it.
dorknerdgeek
06-07-2008, 02:02 PM
I like the idea that MJ remembers. I like the Ehret character being the one who's there to make sure that she doesn't spill beans. I'm really looking forward to the gut-punch story, though...
"So, yes, Peter...you and MJ were very married and quite happy with one another. You don't remember that. You know what else you don't remember about that? Your pal Harry was dead. So you can have the marriage you don't remember back, but May AND Harry go into the ground."
Gut. Punch.
Gwen was his true love. Then she died. Now MJ is his true love.
MJ was always his true love, he just didnt realize it at the time.
Gwen was an obvious superficial bitch and an absolute guilt trip who couldnt look after herself (Peter even buried her in one memorable story comparing her to MJ).
I used to think a girl I knew for years was "the one"...then I realized who was always there when she wasnt. You dont know where your priorities are in life at that age, and with the baggage George's death brought Peter (I.E, "LOOK AFTER GWEN, OBEY, OBEY, HONOUR THY SURROGATE FATHER FIGURE"), he wasnt thinking straight.
dont waste your breath linton,some people will never get it.
More like you and Linton will never "get it". Don't waste my time until you do
I like the idea that MJ remembers. I like the Ehret character being the one who's there to make sure that she doesn't spill beans. I'm really looking forward to the gut-punch story, though...
"So, yes, Peter...you and MJ were very married and quite happy with one another. You don't remember that. You know what else you don't remember about that? Your pal Harry was dead. So you can have the marriage you don't remember back, but May AND Harry go into the ground."
Gut. Punch.
I see a stack of dominoes with that one...if Peter and MJ agree to seperate the next time, you get Gwen back...and then Mephisto demands the same thing AGAIN..and this time the prize is Uncle Ben.
That's when Peter should stop and realize how stupid he's being..but hey, this hasnt been Peter for years...he'll end up with his parents back by the time THIS lemming-admired corporate dumbass gets his priortiies straight
Thursaiz
06-09-2008, 08:01 AM
I'm sure its been explored by someone that maybe Mephisto is MJ in this timeline, and Sara is MJ but doesn't realize it?
SkinFromBone
06-09-2008, 08:29 AM
I'm sure its been explored by someone that maybe Mephisto is MJ in this timeline, and Sara is MJ but doesn't realize it?
That's a nice twist. I dig it :cool:
I'm sure its been explored by someone that maybe Mephisto is MJ in this timeline, and Sara is MJ but doesn't realize it?
That is beyond disturbing...but with Loki also a transexual, you never know.
JamesOliva
06-09-2008, 10:27 AM
dont waste your breath linton,some people will never get it.
Says the man who believes "MJ conspired to kill Gwen."
Mister Mets
06-09-2008, 10:40 PM
18 posts were moved to the Generic Quesada's Spider-Man megathread.
Mister Mets
06-09-2008, 10:43 PM
True...I dont know how Marvel can say that DIDNT age the character either...
God, we've got a LOT to clean up dont we?
It DIDN'T age the character because...
1) it didn't make him physically older.
2) it's only been mentioned in a guest appearance in a mini series.
3) other characters Peter interacts with don't know about it, and therefore aren't going to reference it.
It DIDN'T age the character because...
1) it didn't make him physically older.
2) it's only been mentioned in a guest appearance in a mini series.
3) other characters Peter interacts with don't know about it, and therefore aren't going to reference it.
It does age the character.
1. He remembers it
2. It still got a mention.
3. Peter would have eventually confided in MJ or May
Deny it all you will though
Cody H
06-09-2008, 11:10 PM
Gwen isnt his true love, she's just his biggest guilt-trip.Actually, I'd give Uncle Ben the nod on that one.It DIDN'T age the character because...
1) it didn't make him physically older.
2) it's only been mentioned in a guest appearance in a mini series.
3) other characters Peter interacts with don't know about it, and therefore aren't going to reference it.That, and it was happened in an alternate universe.
Actually, I'd give Uncle Ben the nod on that one.
Peter underestimates things. Uncle Ben will always come first, but Gwen's burden was the biggest he had to deal with (to honour his "third father" Captain Stacy)
That, and it was happened in an alternate universe.
An alternate universe Peter remembers experiancing.
Character aged. No denying it. NONE.
Cody H
06-10-2008, 12:01 AM
An alternate universe Peter remembers experiancing.
Character aged. No denying it. NONE.I'm not denying it. What I am denying is that it has a significant impact in terms of people perceiving Peter as older, which is what I believe we have been talking about.
That was Wanda making the decisions for Peter (he wanted ALL of his loved ones safe), MJ became a succesful actress anmd ended up playing Gwen in a series of Spider-Man movies.
Gwen isnt his true love, she's just his biggest guilt-trip. MJ is his true love. I suspect that if the House of M reality had continued, Gwen would have realized MJ and Peter were meant for each other (another reason I think the "legit" Gwen shagged Norman Osborn was out of despair over this very realization), and left him.
Yeah. Peter's wish wasn't to have married Gwen, it was to never have had to live through losing someone he cared about. That meant he ended up marrying Gwen, but it doesn't mean that he actually believed she was better for him than MJ.
sgt pepper
06-10-2008, 07:56 AM
It's not an anagram. It's apparently a name that Guggenheim likes to use (he named a character in the TV show Jack and Bobby "Sara Ehret").
That is weird, but it's such a weird name and the spelling of it is highlighted in such a way that it must be an anagram.
Three ideas:
Add the h back that Sara says to leave out and it becomes "share heart." Referencing MJ and Peter's metaphorical shared heart? Or maybe MJ's heart was fragmented into these two characters?
Or more simply, the last name could be "three." Again representing MJs fragmenting into these three characters (MJ, Sara, Jackpot)????
Or there's "erase" or "eraser" in there, but that leaves "ahrt" or "aht." So "erase hart" or "eraser hat"?????
If the name's not meant as a puzzle, then it sure was a weird way to present it.
Mister Mets
06-10-2008, 09:58 AM
I'm not denying it. What I am denying is that it has a significant impact in terms of people perceiving Peter as older, which is what I believe we have been talking about.Yup. Usually discussions with the word Age are more about perceptions than anything else. It's still true in this case, as Peter Parker didn't get physically older.
SkinFromBone
07-19-2008, 01:49 PM
Is it to much of a reach to think Sara has been MJ at times and MJ really is Jackpot?
They sure look a lot alike on the last page of ASM 561 and Sara seemed to want to know when MJ would be back around. Maybe she didn't want MJ to blow her act? Just wondering :confused:
Well ok maybe MJ isn't jackpot at all since Jackpot did give Sara's name to spider-man. If MJ was jackpot she would have acted differently once she signed the autograph. I still say they look to much alike for Sara not to be a freak trying to be MJ.
stillanerd
07-19-2008, 02:06 PM
How about this angle:
Jackpot is MJ but not MJ, and she's Sara Erhet but not Sara Erhet. She is the memory of Peter and MJ's former reality personified, with Peter's powers and intelligence but MJ's personality and appearance transplated into Sara Erhet's body, who just so happens to be an MJ fanatic. Sara has no memory of whenever she becomes Jackpot but she does know she becomes her. And has no idea how or why she becomes Jackpot or got these powers. (It's really because of Mephisto). Think Ghost Rider, only as a female celebrity impersonator with a passion for disco.
SkinFromBone
07-19-2008, 04:38 PM
How about this angle:
Jackpot is MJ but not MJ, and she's Sara Erhet but not Sara Erhet. She is the memory of Peter and MJ's former reality personified, with Peter's powers and intelligence but MJ's personality and appearance transplated into Sara Erhet's body, who just so happens to be an MJ fanatic. Sara has no memory of whenever she becomes Jackpot but she does know she becomes her. And has no idea how or why she becomes Jackpot or got these powers. (It's really because of Mephisto). Think Ghost Rider, only as a female celebrity impersonator with a passion for disco.
Yeah ok that's a good idea. :cool:
ShadowSonic
07-21-2008, 09:44 AM
Makes me wonder if the theory that Dexter Bennet is really Mephisto is also true. The whole "paparazzi" thing was just an attempt by him to further blacken Peter's soul which is why he was so mad over the failure.
CyberHubbs
07-21-2008, 09:52 AM
Makes me wonder if the theory that Dexter Bennet is really Mephisto is also true. The whole "paparazzi" thing was just an attempt by him to further blacken Peter's soul which is why he was so mad over the failure.
While I do agree that some paparazzi are total scumbags, snapping pictures of a celebrity's private life is not exactly the road blackened with sin and death. It's just a questionable career choice.
Bennet is just an opportunistic businessman. He wants money and power, and thought he could dangle enough cash in Peter's face to use as a pawn toward his own end.
AbdulAziz
07-21-2008, 11:05 AM
Why does some people still think that the Devil can make you a wish? That's too wrong.
Didn't that lady in red turn out to be Mepisto in disguise?
vBulletin® v3.6.4, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.