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Kid Impulse
10-20-2008, 04:51 PM
Yeah, but you send you were going to skip New Krypton and than gave in. Even getting a Jimmy Olsen special.
Jimmy Olsen is one of my favourite DC characters

Kerny
10-20-2008, 05:25 PM
I'm a dick who as offered you free comics and money back guarantees on comics. What a butthole I am.
You also had me banned, and let me on to think you jacked up my ebay bid.

Kerny
10-20-2008, 05:29 PM
I should get a picture of me in my Kid Flash shirt giving a Kerny style thumbs up for moments like this
I have a style of thumbs up named after me?

AWESOME. *thumbs up*

Kerny
10-20-2008, 05:34 PM
I don't think I'm getting any DC books :eek:

I'd like to say I will be getting GL and GLC, but nothing is in stone.

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 05:34 PM
I'm putting it in spoilers because I don't know if you're reading FC or how far you are with it, but I'll try to be vague

With Lois Lane's life on the line, a lady Monitor appears and offers Superman the oppurtunity to save her, if he comes with her to save the universe. Superman teams up with Ultraman from the Anti-Matter Earth, Captain Marvel from Earth-5, Overman, the Nazi-Superman of Earth 10 and Captain Adams, a Doc Manhatten analogue from Earth-4.

They travel through The Bleed (yay Ellis) which is revealed to be the universe's period or something (I wish I was joking) until they are attacked by a mysterious force. They crash in Earth 51, the dead universe from Countdown. They carry on through out of The Bleed and end up in Limbo from Grant's 'Animal Man'.

There they come across the book of all stories or something to that effect. There they discover, and here's the big part...

In the beginning, there was one Monitor. This Monitor discovered an infinitestmal coalescence called the Multiverse. Investigating the Multiverse, the Monitor dicovered that finite beings create meaning, conflicts and events - stories. Unprepared for this new concept, the Monitor's probe split in two. One half became the Orrery of Worlds, while the other became a colossal representation of the greatest hero - a massive golden Superman.

The Monitor created a progeny around himself, the Monitors of the 52 Universes of the Multiverse. They made their home in a vast city around the golden statue, which began to rust. The legend grew among the Monitors that the statue was a doomsday weapon intended to protect them from their ultimate enemy. It becomes attached to the story of Dax Novu the Radiant, first son of the original Monitor, who first explored the Multiverse, brought knowledge of the Bleed and eventually gave his life to contain the entity called Mandrakk, who is prophecied to someday rise against all of creation.

Superman then tries to ferry the denizens of Limbo back to reality but Mandrakk the Dark Monitor turns up, and has greater weapons at his command. Looking outside, they see the arrival of a colossal machine which shatters the sky of Limbo - and Ultraman, who is holding the library and shouting that he has read the end of the book and Evil wins at the end.

Phew, I had to look that up towards the end

Wow. Thanks.

That sounds like it would have been pure hell for me to read. It was tough enough just bothering to read your summary. I wonder who the hell thought it necessary to tell that story during FC? Seems like such a convoluted mess that just takes Superman off the grid for part of FC.

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 05:35 PM
You also had me banned, and let me on to think you jacked up my ebay bid.

He's also the reason you have diabetes.

REVELATIONS!

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 05:37 PM
The Witchblade anime isn't bad at all, if you accept and deal with the fact that it's a whole other bearer and setting than Sara/Dani and NYC. I had the series on my Netflix queue for awhile, and succumbed to the nigh-endless CBR banner ads for the 1st ep free on iTunes. It'll probably be the next anime series I watch, since I'm done with Death Note soon.

Kerny
10-20-2008, 05:44 PM
He's also the reason you have diabetes.

REVELATIONS!
That sounds like a decent plot for a movie/tv show/comic.

After finding out the origin to his mysterious illness, one man sets out to destroy the one who caused it all.

By season 3, I'd have a showdown with RR and his chimps of doom, and then it would flash forward 10 years later, carefully not showing who won the battle, till the end.

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 05:47 PM
That sounds like a decent plot for a movie/tv show/comic.

After finding out the origin to his mysterious illness, one man sets out to destroy the man who caused it all.

By season 3, I'd have a showdown with RR and his chimps of doom, and then it would flash forward 10 years later, carefully not showing who won the battle, till the end.

And RR runs around the whole time in a cheap IM mask, and smacks you with rolled up copies of Gale written ASM, whilst his chimps pepper you with feces. Then you say something insane to stun him, and use drunken NC strength to perform suplexes on the giant chimp leader.

While you're distracted, I stab you in the eye with stabby straw claws, and then you get put in a room, and are made to watch Fringe non stop for a whole year, Desolation Jones style.

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 06:00 PM
This James Jean guy should really get some more credit. He's gonna be big, I tells ya, BIG! :wink:

P.S. Damn you James Jean for not doing UA:Dallas covers.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/dccomics/200901/vert_ws/FABL-Cv80.jpg

Kerny
10-20-2008, 06:16 PM
And RR runs around the whole time in a cheap IM mask, and smacks you with rolled up copies of Gale written ASM, whilst his chimps pepper you with feces. Then you say something insane to stun him, and use drunken NC strength to perform suplexes on the giant chimp leader.

While you're distracted, I stab you in the eye with stabby straw claws, and then you get put in a room, and are made to watch Fringe non stop for a whole year, Desolation Jones style.
What happens to RR once I leave his chimp leader a broken chimp?

Kerny
10-20-2008, 06:22 PM
I used these two for something school related

http://www.photoshopsupport.com/inspiration/james-jean/james-jean-700.jpg

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/Dkernx4/SigurRosArt.jpg

Kid Impulse
10-20-2008, 06:28 PM
Wow. Thanks.

That sounds like it would have been pure hell for me to read. It was tough enough just bothering to read your summary. I wonder who the hell thought it necessary to tell that story during FC? Seems like such a convoluted mess that just takes Superman off the grid for part of FC.
It's actually vital. Future solicits indicate the big bad to actually be Mandrakk

If it wasn't for my friend who's even more into DC than me, I wouldn't understand a word of FC

Kid Impulse
10-20-2008, 06:30 PM
That sounds like a decent plot for a movie/tv show/comic.

After finding out the origin to his mysterious illness, one man sets out to destroy the one who caused it all.

By season 3, I'd have a showdown with RR and his chimps of doom, and then it would flash forward 10 years later, carefully not showing who won the battle, till the end.
Thank Xenu you don't make TV shows.

Kerny
10-20-2008, 06:37 PM
Thank Xenu you don't make TV shows.
I'm giving you a Kerny style thumbs down right now.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/Dkernx4/Picture8copy.jpg

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 06:59 PM
You also had me banned, and let me on to think you jacked up my ebay bid.

One was after you pulled your own dickish "trick". And the other was you letting your mind run wild.

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 07:01 PM
And RR runs around the whole time in a cheap IM mask, and smacks you with rolled up copies of Gale written ASM, whilst his chimps pepper you with feces. Then you say something insane to stun him, and use drunken NC strength to perform suplexes on the giant chimp leader.

While you're distracted, I stab you in the eye with stabby straw claws, and then you get put in a room, and are made to watch Fringe non stop for a whole year, Desolation Jones style.

Hurnslice get your girlfriend working on it!

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 07:03 PM
What happens to RR once I leave his chimp leader a broken chimp?

I get to watch Fringe too.

"This is better than I expected." *eats some popcorn as Kerny struggles while muttering something about Pacey*

Kerny
10-20-2008, 07:12 PM
One was after you pulled your own dickish "trick". And the other was you letting your mind run wild.
So we are two assholes, why can't we get along? :tongue:

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 07:45 PM
It's actually vital. Future solicits indicate the big bad to actually be Mandrakk

If it wasn't for my friend who's even more into DC than me, I wouldn't understand a word of FC

...I have no idea who the hell Mandrakk is.

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 07:50 PM
Got caught up on the Marz/Seijic run of Witchblade (#116-120...#121 is coming to me soon) -- really solid stuff. Glad to be back with the book, as I hadn't read it consistently since Turner and Wohl left post #25. I picked up the beginning of Marz' run, which was #80 back when it hit (Cho variant goodness), but neglected to pull it further...because naturally, I didn't read it until...uh...yesterday. Heh. Only 3 years late. I also read the Bachalo drawn #87 as well. Seriously debating picking up the 5 Witchblade trades of Marz' run that take me exactly up to #116, the first issue of the current Seijic run...and the Local HC too.

Kerny
10-20-2008, 07:51 PM
...I have no idea who the hell Mandrakk is.
Morrison creation.

He's the orginial bad Monitor I guess, what I gathered.

MANDRAKK THE DARK MONITOR.

I just wanted to see Darkseid kick ass :frown:

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 07:51 PM
I used these two for something school related


What exactly did you use them for? Art class thing?

Kerny
10-20-2008, 07:57 PM
What exactly did you use them for? Art class thing?
Computer Graphics II

We could use any images we wanted around the net as long as it was appropriate, so I thought of a cool artist and found those two.

Last year in Graphics 1, I used the Thunderbolts cover where the Green Goblin is standing over everything looking badass.

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 08:01 PM
It hit me as I was reading the other day that I wonder if there's gonna be some kind of mini centered on where the replaced heroes are/were and exactly what they went through and stuff. With what I assume is Jessica Drew starring in Spider-Woman: Agent of SWORD (Marvel is being cagey and asking who the Spider-Woman in question may be under the mask), and Black Bolt seeming to take a role in War of Kings, I think it's time to see what's up with them, and given the little ancillary slices of things SI proper has shown, it won't be enough to address there (plus there's the whole GIANT BATTLE THEY'VE FINALLY GOTTEN TO to take up the bulk of #7, and perhaps a bit of #8).

Skeets
10-20-2008, 08:07 PM
Oh snap, Mike Nolan got the boot. Can't say I'm too disappointed or surprised what with his record (18-37), but he was a badass and did go to my high school, so I feel a little bad for him. Hopefully this turns out good for my Niners though.

Kerny
10-20-2008, 08:11 PM
Oh snap, Mike Nolan got the boot. Can't say I'm too disappointed or surprised what with his record (18-37), but he was a badass and did go to my high school, so I feel a little bad for him. Hopefully this turns out good for my Niners though.
Chris Berman on Monday Night Countdown said he was disgusted by it.

He'll be coaching again in the future.

Skeets
10-20-2008, 08:14 PM
He'll be coaching again in the future.
No doubt..

Skeets
10-20-2008, 08:58 PM
Hey guys.... guess what super cool awesome show is about to start?


DUN DUN

DUN

DUN DUN

DUN DUN

DUN

DUN DUN


TERMINATOR!!!!!!

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 09:02 PM
Hey guys.... guess what super cool awesome show is about to start?


DUN DUN

DUN

DUN DUN

DUN DUN

DUN

DUN DUN


TERMINATOR!!!!!!

The question is, can Skeets' body handle only getting a 1/16th fix? :wink:

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 09:02 PM
...I have no idea who the hell Mandrakk is.

It's like DC doesn't want me to read their books.

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 09:04 PM
It hit me as I was reading the other day that I wonder if there's gonna be some kind of mini centered on where the replaced heroes are/were and exactly what they went through and stuff. With what I assume is Jessica Drew starring in Spider-Woman: Agent of SWORD (Marvel is being cagey and asking who the Spider-Woman in question may be under the mask), and Black Bolt seeming to take a role in War of Kings, I think it's time to see what's up with them, and given the little ancillary slices of things SI proper has shown, it won't be enough to address there (plus there's the whole GIANT BATTLE THEY'VE FINALLY GOTTEN TO to take up the bulk of #7, and perhaps a bit of #8).

Well Black Bolt is already being addressed in SI: Inhumans.

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 09:04 PM
He'll be coaching again in the future.

In the NFL or college?

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 09:05 PM
The question is, can Skeets' body handle only getting a 1/16th fix? :wink:
And commercials.

Kerny
10-20-2008, 09:07 PM
In the NFL or college?
Who knows? I say NFL.

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 09:08 PM
Well Black Bolt is already being addressed in SI: Inhumans.

Have they actually revealed where he is though/what his status is? Or shown how he was replaced? I'm waiting to read it all in one sitting, so I dunno. I figured they'd at least deal with it to some extent, but I figured I'd have heard something if they really showed him yet.

Kerny
10-20-2008, 09:14 PM
Have they actually revealed where he is though/what his status is? Or shown how he was replaced? I'm waiting to read it all in one sitting, so I dunno. I figured they'd at least deal with it to some extent, but I figured I'd have heard something if they really showed him yet.
well since you asked, yes.

but to what I will not say MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 09:25 PM
well since you asked, yes.

but to what I will not say MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x16/bebopeva88/bizarro.jpg

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 09:27 PM
Have they actually revealed where he is though/what his status is? Yes.

Or shown how he was replaced? Yes, but not in much detail.

And it does set the time line straight.

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 09:28 PM
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x16/bebopeva88/bizarro.jpg

Heh. I haven't seen that before, it's pretty awesome.

Kerny
10-20-2008, 09:30 PM
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x16/bebopeva88/bizarro.jpg
Bizzaro speak in all forms should be eliminated.

Aren't you the one who always makes fun of me for using FAIL?

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 09:31 PM
Yes.

Yes, but not in much detail.

And it does set the time line straight.

Cool. That's the main thing I was hoping for (outside of actually like seeing the Inhumans again). I keep resisting the urge to read the issues I have in favor of waiting until it's all out, but now I dunno.

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 09:31 PM
Heh. I haven't seen that before, it's pretty awesome.

I like it too. I was just waiting for an opportune time to strike with it. :cool:

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 09:33 PM
Bizzaro speak in all forms should be eliminated.

It's great in small doses. A whole issue with it grows tiresome. A freaking arc of it (looking at you, Superman/Batman #20-25) makes you wanna kill someone.

Aren't you the one who always makes fun of me for using FAIL?

I see no usage of "FAIL". :wink:

Kerny
10-20-2008, 09:37 PM
I like it too. I was just waiting for an opportune time to strike with it. :cool:
Yeah it's a shame Boostered or Num do not post more. :wink:

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 09:42 PM
Yeah it's a shame Boostered or Num do not post more. :wink:

No, no it's not. :evilsmile:

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 09:43 PM
Looking at the cover to Jan's issue of Cable, I am more than a bit confused as to why the baby is now like 4-7 years old.

Also, Bishop needs to die. He's ridiculous. Or just title the book Bishop and cancel it.

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 09:46 PM
I'm glad nothing "good" is on tap for X-Force so that I can happily drop it in Jan., after Marvel's Hail Mary of Domino & Choi/Oback to keep me on a bit longer.

Also, the art on Wolverine: Switchback looks awful from what I've seen. I think the Wolverine one shot streak is at an end! :eek:

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 10:03 PM
Aren't you the one who always makes fun of me for using FAIL?
I think you're the only one who actually regularly uses "FAIL" on this thread.

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 10:03 PM
Cool. That's the main thing I was hoping for (outside of actually like seeing the Inhumans again). I keep resisting the urge to read the issues I have in favor of waiting until it's all out, but now I dunno.

Eh. It's only more issue, I think you can hold off.

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 10:04 PM
I like it too. I was just waiting for an opportune time to strike with it. :cool:

Kerny makes opportunities happen.

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 10:05 PM
Yeah it's a shame Boostered or Num do not post more. :wink:

Who?:confused:

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 10:07 PM
Looking at the cover to Jan's issue of Cable, I am more than a bit confused as to why the baby is now like 4-7 years old.

I noticed that and it is really weird.

But it made me think they're going to bring the baby make into the MU full grown and it will only have taken 1-2 years.

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 10:08 PM
Also, the art on Wolverine: Switchback looks awful from what I've seen. I think the Wolverine one shot streak is at an end! :eek:

For now.....

Then again they got you for a Wolverine mini. Me too.

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 10:10 PM
Eh. It's only more issue, I think you can hold off.

Oh, I definitely can, but will I? That one issue left means I won't have all of it until the beginning of Dec...though I haven't started reading any of the non Avengers SI tie ins that I've been buying yet (SI: Thor, SI: Inhumans, or SI: X-Men).

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 10:13 PM
I noticed that and it is really weird.

But it made me think they're going to bring the baby make into the MU full grown and it will only have taken 1-2 years.

They clearly are looking to do that (and I think most people could see that from very early on), but I'd love to know how they explain it.

For now.....

Then again they got you for a Wolverine mini. Me too.

Hey, I'm down for as many quality Wolverine minis as they wanna throw at me. Jason Aaron Wolverine is welcome in my pull list any time. :biggrin:

The streak may have technically ended earlier, as I didn't get that Saudade issue, but it was different in that it was a foreign issue that was translated, was essentially a MAX title with the big ass "Explicit content" box on the cover, and had a $5 cover price instead of the $4 that the usual one shots are.

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 10:15 PM
Oh, I definitely can, but will I? That one issue left means I won't have all of it until the beginning of Dec.
Jeez.

Well so far the story is pretty cool, though last issue took a weird dip.

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 10:17 PM
They clearly are looking to do that (and I think most people could see that from very early on), but I'd love to know how they explain it. All I ask is that it's not Jean Grey.

Hey, I'm down for as many quality Wolverine minis as they wanna throw at me. Jason Aaron Wolverine is welcome in my pull list any time. :biggrin:

Indeed. I still haven't touched Millar's Old Man Logan yet, but I'm very much looking forward to Aaron's mini. And whatever mystery project they've gave him.

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 10:22 PM
All I ask is that it's not Jean Grey.

It's so intriguing, because they've been slapping readers in the face with blatant Jean Grey clues/hints, to the extent where you have to think it's a deliberate red herring, but at the same time, it's gotten to the point where it almost seems like they've gone so far with it that it'd be hard to have it be anyone but Jean.

Indeed. I still haven't touched Millar's Old Man Logan yet, but I'm very much looking forward to Aaron's mini. And whatever mystery project they've gave him.

No interest in Old Man Logan? Or did you mean that you're stockpiling it?

I'm just happy for some in continuity, present day Logan stuff. The one shots can be pretty decent, but they're also just fluff that doesn't really have any impact. I don't see the Manifest Destiny min i being groundbreaking in terms of lasting impact or anything, but it'll at least feel like a traditional Wolverine arc.

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 10:33 PM
It's so intriguing, because they've been slapping readers in the face with blatant Jean Grey clues/hints, to the extent where you have to think it's a deliberate red herring, but at the same time, it's gotten to the point where it almost seems like they've gone so far with it that it'd be hard to have it be anyone but Jean. It'll be interesting to see how the reveal will work. I just hope it's not here cause I like the Scott and Emma pairing waaaaaaaay more than I ever liked him and Jean.



No interest in Old Man Logan? Or did you mean that you're stockpiling it? Stockpiling.

I'm just happy for some in continuity, present day Logan stuff. The one shots can be pretty decent, but they're also just fluff that doesn't really have any impact. I don't see the Manifest Destiny min i being groundbreaking in terms of lasting impact or anything, but it'll at least feel like a traditional Wolverine arc.
They'll get you your Loeb continuity soon enough. Until then there's always Origins.

Man I hate to be a die hard Wolverine fan.:wink:

bebopeva88
10-20-2008, 10:39 PM
It'll be interesting to see how the reveal will work. I just hope it's not here cause I like the Scott and Emma pairing waaaaaaaay more than I ever liked him and Jean.

If/when she comes back, it doesn't mean the end of Scott and Emma unless editorial is retarded. Jean pretty much pushed them to be together after her death, and seeing how the relationship has developed post-Morrison/the fact that it was so heavily embraced, whereas many of Morrison's other ideas/concepts/changes were retconned or done away with, I'd think it has a better chance of lasting when Jean returns than not.

They'll get you your Loeb continuity soon enough. Until then there's always Origins.

Man I hate to be a die hard Wolverine fan.:wink:

It is a long, difficult road, fraught with toil, disappointment, anger, frustration, and bewilderment.

RedRonin
10-20-2008, 10:55 PM
If/when she comes back, it doesn't mean the end of Scott and Emma unless editorial is retarded. Jean pretty much pushed them to be together after her death, and seeing how the relationship has developed post-Morrison/the fact that it was so heavily embraced, whereas many of Morrison's other ideas/concepts/changes were retconned or done away with, I'd think it has a better chance of lasting when Jean returns than not. I wish I shared your thinking. I think one of the first things they do is a love triangle. Which in and of itself isn't too bad, and pretty much warranted. But I don't see Emma and Scott making it too much longer after Jean's return.

It is a long, difficult road, fraught with toil, disappointment, anger, frustration, and bewilderment.
I've vicariously experienced what it's like through your enraged, disappointed and often delusionally hopeful posts.:wink:

Hurnslice
10-21-2008, 12:56 AM
I'm interesting in hearing Skeet's thoughts on tonight's T:SCC.

Personally, I thought it was way up there.

Someone give me shout when they see it.

Skeets
10-21-2008, 01:27 AM
I'm interesting in hearing Skeet's thoughts on tonight's T:SCC.

Personally, I thought it was way up there.

Someone give me shout when they see it.
I dug it.

I liked that we're getting more character stuff rather than all the runs and guns from season 1. I like that the burden of being John Connor is starting to show. Dealing with killing someone, acting like a trained military man and scanning the room for exits, and I know this was from the previous episode but how bout discovering the guy whose life he just saved gave his life to save his in the future? That was another great moment.

The fight scene in the elevator was fun.

I like the psychiatrist, hope they keep up their visits. It'll be interesting to watch him unknowingly work with the good guys and bad.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 01:59 AM
Daniel Craig was offered Thor. (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5627&Itemid=99)

Hurnslice
10-21-2008, 07:11 AM
I dug it.

I liked that we're getting more character stuff rather than all the runs and guns from season 1. I like that the burden of being John Connor is starting to show. Dealing with killing someone, acting like a trained military man and scanning the room for exits, and I know this was from the previous episode but how bout discovering the guy whose life he just saved gave his life to save his in the future? That was another great moment.

The fight scene in the elevator was fun.

I like the psychiatrist, hope they keep up their visits. It'll be interesting to watch him unknowingly work with the good guys and bad.

Did you catch that the psychiatrist is/was 8 Ball from Full Metal Jacket?

Hurnslice
10-21-2008, 07:15 AM
Daniel Craig was offered Thor. (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5627&Itemid=99)

That's... I don't know what to think of that.

I dig his Bond.

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 08:23 AM
That's... I don't know what to think of that.

I dig his Bond.
As a proud Englishman, I cannot freaking wait for Quantum of Solace. Every time I see the advert, the glee in my face gets even more visible.

I also can't wait for the Ricky Gervais movie. I cry with laughter everytime I see the ad for that

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 08:49 AM
Hey Bebop, have you heard the acoustic version of Talons? I love it for exactly the opposite reasons I love the original. Instead of being brutal and ferocious, it's slow and menacing.

Hurnslice
10-21-2008, 10:26 AM
Damn, I totally forgot to watch 5 minutes of Heroes.

I'll take a total stab in the dark here and say... Something happened.

:wink:

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 10:34 AM
Daniel Craig was offered Thor. (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5627&Itemid=99)

He'd be an interesting choice...he has a kind of Russian look, facial features-wise, but it could also pass as kind of Nordic. Body type is kind of wrong though, but really, just about anybody's body type would be. I like him a lot though.

I've always though Kevin McKidd would be good ever since I saw him on Rome. He can look the part and pull of the warrior bit too.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 10:34 AM
As a proud Englishman, I cannot freaking wait for Quantum of Solace. Every time I see the advert, the glee in my face gets even more visible.

I also can't wait for the Ricky Gervais movie. I cry with laughter everytime I see the ad for that

Really looking forward to Quantum of Solace.

What Ricky Gervais movie are you referring to? Ghost Town?

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 10:39 AM
Hey Bebop, have you heard the acoustic version of Talons? I love it for exactly the opposite reasons I love the original. Instead of being brutal and ferocious, it's slow and menacing.

Yeah, it's good and definitely has a different vibe, though I wouldn't call the original version brutal and ferocious. More like ominous and inevitable.

There's an acoustic version of Plans that was on the bonus disc to the Silent Alarm Remixed album that is really interesting too. It's kind of in the same boat -- a faster paced, ominous original, and rather different acoustic version.

Better Than Heaven live was quite a different experience, as I think I said after the last show. Close to an acoustic version for the first 1/3 of the song or so, and nowhere near as instrumental overall...much slower and kind of bitter/spooky sounding.

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 10:44 AM
Marvel in Jan

Dark Avengers #1
Avengers: The Initiative #21 - Ramos!
Invincible Iron Man #9
New Avengers #49
Thunderbolts #128
Ultimate Spider-Man #130
Captain America #46
Captain Britain and MI:13 #9 - Meggan!
Kick-Ass #7
Incognito #2

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 10:45 AM
Really looking forward to Quantum of Solace.

What Ricky Gervais movie are you referring to? Ghost Town?
Yeah, I couldn't remember the title. It looks hilarious

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 10:47 AM
Marvel Solicits are weird...they dumped a whole bunch of books out of order in the beginning, including ASM #584, which wasn't in the Marvel.com solicits.

Obviously the SI stuff is without any story info, but some interesting things anyway.

Ms. Marvel #35 has a Stephane Roux cover :cool:

Avengers: The Initiative #21 has cover and interiors by Humberto Ramos

Thor #600 has 104 pages. :eek:

And, this looks pretty good, and makes me feel much better about no regular Uncanny issue:

UNCANNY X-MEN ANNUAL #2
Written by MATT FRACTION
Pencils by MITCH BREITWEISER
Cover by YANICK PAQUETTE
48 PGS./Rated T+ ...$3.99

http://www.newsarama.com/preview_images/marvelnew/jan09/uncxann2009.jpg

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 10:47 AM
Yeah, I couldn't remember the title. It looks hilarious

Ah. We got that like 5 weeks ago. :biggrin:

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 10:49 AM
Brando, you are forgiven for recent ugly garishness...although the Skrull uniforms are rather bright. Pretty cool image though. Who knew BB had a liquid metal costume? Guess he liked Bucky's new look. :wink:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/marvelcomics/200901/SECINVWOK_cov.jpg

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 10:50 AM
Yeah, it's good and definitely has a different vibe, though I wouldn't call the original version brutal and ferocious. More like ominous and inevitable.

There's an acoustic version of Plans that was on the bonus disc to the Silent Alarm Remixed album that is really interesting too. It's kind of in the same boat -- a faster paced, ominous original, and rather different acoustic version.

Better Than Heaven live was quite a different experience, as I think I said after the last show. Close to an acoustic version for the first 1/3 of the song or so, and nowhere near as instrumental overall...much slower and kind of bitter/spooky sounding.
Ominous and inevitable. That's why you're the teacher and I'm a student. Well, that and the age thing.

Do you get all the remixes as well? There's like 6 different ones for Talons and I just can't be bothered with them.

Also, I heard Cryptic by Pin Me Down. I liked it but the riff was just way too, I dunno, familiar I guess

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 10:53 AM
Ah. We got that like 5 weeks ago. :biggrin:
Urge to kill... rising...

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 10:55 AM
2 great Marvel collections back in print that if you haven't read, you really should. Probably the best DD story ever (and one of the best Marvel stories ever), and one of the best Wolverine stories ever, and rather easily the best once since it came out in '97:

Wolverine: Not Dead Yet Premiere HC by Ellis and Yu (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=solicits/marvelcomics/200901/WOLVNDY_MPHC.jpg)

Daredevil: Born Again by Miller and Mazzucchelli (http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/marvelcomics/200901/DDBORN_MPHC.jpg)

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 10:56 AM
Here we go again

http://i.newsarama.com/images/WhoIsTheNewBlackPanther.jpg

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 11:01 AM
Ominous and inevitable. That's why you're the teacher and I'm a student. Well, that and the age thing.

Heh.

Do you get all the remixes as well? There's like 6 different ones for Talons and I just can't be bothered with them.

I've heard most of them, but I don't really feel the need to have them all. There's too many out there overall, and they're never really as good as the original.

The Silent Alarm remixed album was something I got because it was the only thing to sate my new love for them AND the first pressing of it had Always New Depths, Skeleton, Storm and Stress, Plans (acoustic), and Storm and Stress (acoustic) on a bonus disc, and I HAD to have them. That's what I bought it for. The remixes are ok from the Silent Alarm side, but really only Helicopter and Banquet are legitimately good (as one would expect), and one or two remixes are too awful to listen to.

Luno on the remix album is cool, because it's just a cover done by Death From Above 1979, which is pretty awesome, and is the PERFECT song for them. Check out Little Girl by them if you've never heard it. 2 guys with an ABSOLUTE wall of sound -- like The White Stripes and a dash of Bloc Party from hell.


Urge to kill... rising...

:cool:

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 11:02 AM
Here we go again


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

My favorite will be hearing Marvel again deny they've been doing female versions of characters left and right...or that they've always been around...or that the fans LOVE them. Those are their standard 3 BS answers.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 11:05 AM
PUNISHER #1
Written by RICK REMENDER
Penciled by JEROME OPENA
50/50 Covers by MIKE MCKONE
LIVING IN DARKNESS," PART 1
The fight against the "Dark Reign" begins as the duty of chronicling Frank Castle's war journal is passed to new regular team of writer Rick Remender (End League, Fear Agent) and Jerome Opena (Wolverine, Fear Agent).
One man with one bullet, in the right place, at the right time, can change the world. That's why the Punisher is perched atop a building on the Jersey shore with a high-powered Skrull rifle, his crosshairs trained on a target in Midtown Manhattan. But who is his target -- and why? One thing's for sure: They're anything but helpless. Someone is watching their back. Someone big. Enter: The Sentry!
48 PGS./Rated T+ ...$3.99

So IGN was full of it (naturally) -- Frank's not going after heroes left and right, declaring war on them.

Sounds like Sentry is playing bodyguard for Frank's target -- a Skrull individual perhaps? Veranke even?

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 11:10 AM
Luno on the remix album is cool, because it's just a cover done by Death From Above 1979, which is pretty awesome, and is the PERFECT song for them. Check out Little Girl by them if you've never heard it. 2 guys with an ABSOLUTE wall of sound -- like The White Stripes and a dash of Bloc Party from hell.
Yeah, I'd say I'm a fan of DFA79 but I haven't too heard much by them, just Black History Month, and You're a Woman, I'm a Machine.

I agree with you on Luno as well, it's my favourite track on ...Remixed

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 11:15 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

My favorite will be hearing Marvel again deny they've been doing female versions of characters left and right...or that they've always been around...or that the fans LOVE them. Those are their standard 3 BS answers.
It's gonna be T'Challa's sister. She's been shown as BP in the future and Hudlin's been pimping her since day 1

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 11:20 AM
Confirmation that Mahnke is on FC #7...Jones apologizes...sort of...by saying that it was his preference not to comment “on any of this...Any problems completing the series are my own. I love Doug Mahnke’s art, and he would have probably been a better choice to draw this series in the first place.”

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18513

Hurnslice
10-21-2008, 11:34 AM
Confirmation that Mahnke is on FC #7...Jones apologizes...sort of...by saying that it was his preference not to comment “on any of this...Any problems completing the series are my own. I love Doug Mahnke’s art, and he would have probably been a better choice to draw this series in the first place.”

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18513

Wow. That seems so lame. I'd be pissed if I were a DC guy.

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 11:35 AM
Confirmation that Mahnke is on FC #7...Jones apologizes...sort of...by saying that it was his preference not to comment “on any of this...Any problems completing the series are my own. I love Doug Mahnke’s art, and he would have probably been a better choice to draw this series in the first place.”

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18513
Jones does seem really beat up about all this, I'm not gonna argue with his last sentence though. Mahnke is a fantastic artist.

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 11:39 AM
Wow. That seems so lame. I'd be pissed if I were a DC guy.
I guess I'm the resident DC guy (although, Boostered and Skeets are both DC guys as well) and I'm not that pissed, I prefer Mahnke

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 12:03 PM
Jones does seem really beat up about all this, I'm not gonna argue with his last sentence though. Mahnke is a fantastic artist.

The thing is, he always seems beat up about his art process, yet he keeps committing to things, and in this case, committing to a time-sensitive huge event.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 12:05 PM
I guess I'm the resident DC guy (although, Boostered and Skeets are both DC guys as well) and I'm not that pissed, I prefer Mahnke

Really? If someone said to you, "I have a prestige format Bart Allen one shot to give you, fully completed, and you can magically have the art by Mahnke or JG Jones." you'd pick Mahnke?

I like Mahnke, but to me Jones is the far superior artist.

A real debate for me would be Pacheco with as much time as he needs vs. Jones with as much time as he needs. I MIGHT give Pacheco a slight edge.

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 12:10 PM
Really? If someone said to you, "I have a prestige format Bart Allen one shot to give you, fully completed, and you can magically have the art by Mahnke or JG Jones." you'd pick Mahnke?

I like Mahnke, but to me Jones is the far superior artist.

A real debate for me would be Pacheco with as much time as he needs vs. Jones with as much time as he needs. I MIGHT give Pacheco a slight edge.
In that case I'd prefer Jones, but if you asked me who I'd rather have on a new Bart ongoing, I'd choose Mahnke, although I really don't think his style is suited to it at all.

My dream artist for a new Bart ongoing would be Kerschl

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 01:17 PM
As a proud Englishman, I cannot freaking wait for Quantum of Solace. Every time I see the advert, the glee in my face gets even more visible.

I also can't wait for the Ricky Gervais movie. I cry with laughter everytime I see the ad for that

Quantum looks great. Even though it's suppose to be the shortest Bond film ever, I just hope that means they've packed in all the action.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 01:18 PM
He'd be an interesting choice...he has a kind of Russian look, facial features-wise, but it could also pass as kind of Nordic. Body type is kind of wrong though, but really, just about anybody's body type would be. I like him a lot though.

I've always though Kevin McKidd would be good ever since I saw him on Rome. He can look the part and pull of the warrior bit too.

I have no idea who would make a good Thor. I'd hate to have to try and cast the part.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 01:24 PM
Marvel Solicits are weird...they dumped a whole bunch of books out of order in the beginning, including ASM #584, which wasn't in the Marvel.com solicits.

Obviously the SI stuff is without any story info, but some interesting things anyway.

Ms. Marvel #35 has a Stephane Roux cover :cool: And Pat Olliffe interiors, so weird mouths abound!

Avengers: The Initiative #21 has cover and interiors by Humberto Ramos Which is weird, but think it's a fill in if nothing else.

Thor #600 has 104 pages. :eek: It's a small weapon.

And, this looks pretty good, and makes me feel much better about no regular Uncanny issue:

UNCANNY X-MEN ANNUAL #2
Written by MATT FRACTION
Pencils by MITCH BREITWEISER
Cover by YANICK PAQUETTE
48 PGS./Rated T+ ...$3.99

Thanks for the cover CBR doesn't have it.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 01:25 PM
Brando, you are forgiven for recent ugly garishness...although the Skrull uniforms are rather bright. Pretty cool image though. Who knew BB had a liquid metal costume? Guess he liked Bucky's new look. :wink:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/marvelcomics/200901/SECINVWOK_cov.jpg

Don't f*** with Black Bolt!

Awesome cover.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 01:31 PM
2 great Marvel collections back in print that if you haven't read, you really should. Probably the best DD story ever (and one of the best Marvel stories ever), and one of the best Wolverine stories ever, and rather easily the best once since it came out in '97:

Wolverine: Not Dead Yet Premiere HC by Ellis and Yu (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=solicits/marvelcomics/200901/WOLVNDY_MPHC.jpg)

Daredevil: Born Again by Miller and Mazzucchelli (http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/marvelcomics/200901/DDBORN_MPHC.jpg)
I always think the title of the story is "Not Dead Yet Moutherf***ers!" I think it woudl work better that way.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 01:33 PM
Here we go again

http://i.newsarama.com/images/WhoIsTheNewBlackPanther.jpg

http://www.youthink.com/quiz_images/quiz796outcome3.GIF
No sir, I don't like it.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 01:41 PM
Confirmation that Mahnke is on FC #7...Jones apologizes...sort of...by saying that it was his preference not to comment “on any of this...Any problems completing the series are my own. I love Doug Mahnke’s art, and he would have probably been a better choice to draw this series in the first place.”

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18513

He shouldn't have to apologize, DC should. Who didn't something like this coming?

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 01:41 PM
I guess I'm the resident DC guy (although, Boostered and Skeets are both DC guys as well) and I'm not that pissed, I prefer Mahnke

I like Mahnke, but I'd prefer Jones.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 01:43 PM
A real debate for me would be Pacheco with as much time as he needs vs. Jones with as much time as he needs. I MIGHT give Pacheco a slight edge.

Jones.

Pacheco's stuff hasn't really done much for me since Avengers Forever or around there.

Kerny
10-21-2008, 01:54 PM
That Black Bolt cover kicks ass.

Kerny
10-21-2008, 01:55 PM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/marvelcomics/200901/STAND005_cov.jpg

Lots of details....I like it

Kerny
10-21-2008, 01:57 PM
Dell'Otto cover

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/marvelcomics/200901/MOONKN026_cov.jpg

Kerny
10-21-2008, 01:59 PM
SS in gladiator gear looks stupid to me, but it's Mcgunies

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/marvelcomics/200901/SONHULK007_cov.jpg

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 02:09 PM
And Pat Olliffe interiors, so weird mouths abound!

The bastard.

Which is weird, but think it's a fill in if nothing else.

It is odd. I guess they needed a fill in guy who was kind of cartoony, and he's fast (re: sloppy enough) lately to do it.

It's a small weapon.

Indeed. It's the close quarters melee weapon when enemies get in too close for omnibus bludgeoning.

Thanks for the cover CBR doesn't have it.

Yeah, I added it when I saw Newsarama had the pic and CBR didn't for some reason.

I couldn't remember what Uncanny Annual #1 was (as in the new numbering type...the upcoming one is "#2"), and I had to look it up -- it was a crappy Claremont penned lead in to the Storm/BP wedding back when Claremont was still on the book a few years ago.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 02:10 PM
I always think the title of the story is "Not Dead Yet Moutherf***ers!" I think it woudl work better that way.

I like the word "moutherf***ers".

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 02:12 PM
He shouldn't have to apologize, DC should. Who didn't something like this coming?

DC should, but so should Jones. He committed to a project that was time sensitive and was scheduled to hit monthly, and he had a lot of lead time. If everyone else saw it coming, so should Jones. He has as much blame as DC editorial, who certainly should have known better.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 02:16 PM
Jones.

Pacheco's stuff hasn't really done much for me since Avengers Forever or around there.

His stuff looked really nice in Arrowsmith and Superman/Batman, and then he tweaked his style a bit for GL, and it didn't look nearly as nice (it was kind of minimalist/less detailed). Then his Camelot Falls longish arc with Busiek was freaking gorgeous. It was pretty unbelievable. It took a really long time to come out, but the one issue in particular...the scale of it was insane. Arguably the best art of the year for the year it hit, and the best of his career.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 02:17 PM
It is odd. I guess they needed a fill in guy who was kind of cartoony, and he's fast (re: sloppy enough) lately to do it.

Better than Uy.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 02:18 PM
SS in gladiator gear looks stupid to me, but it's Mcgunies


Heh, Mcgunies.

SS had the gladiator gear on in Planet Hulk, so it's nothing new, yet it is kind of inexplicable why he'd have it on again while visiting a now dead/hell hole of a planet, after only wearing the gear in the first place because he was enslaved.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 02:18 PM
I like the word "moutherf***ers".

I find it's more respectful to women.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 02:18 PM
Better than Uy.

Pretty much any art is.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 02:20 PM
DC should, but so should Jones. He committed to a project that was time sensitive and was scheduled to hit monthly, and he had a lot of lead time. If everyone else saw it coming, so should Jones. He has as much blame as DC editorial, who certainly should have known better.

I suppose. I'm just more sympathetic to an artist, cause I can understand being excited for a project and think you can make some sort of deadline which ends up conflicting with wanting to delver the best work possible.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 02:21 PM
I think I'm gonna get the SI: War of Kings one shot, but I'm iffy on the mini.

On the one hand I love BB and the Inhumans, on the other I hate most Marvel cosmic stuff and loathe Vulcan. Unless I get a copious amount of BB punking Vulcan, I'm not much interested, and if effing Rachel Grey, Korvus, Lilandra, and that whole worthless group (aside from Havok and Polaris) show up (which they kind of have to), then it's like kryptonite to me.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 02:23 PM
His stuff looked really nice in Arrowsmith and Superman/Batman, and then he tweaked his style a bit for GL, and it didn't look nearly as nice (it was kind of minimalist/less detailed). Then his Camelot Falls longish arc with Busiek was freaking gorgeous. It was pretty unbelievable. It took a really long time to come out, but the one issue in particular...the scale of it was insane. Arguably the best art of the year for the year it hit, and the best of his career.

I just liked his work when it was a bit more dynamic. He's still great, I just prefer what his art looked like when I first saw it.

Skeets
10-21-2008, 02:24 PM
Did you catch that the psychiatrist is/was 8 Ball from Full Metal Jacket?
Didn't notice that, it's been a long time since I saw that movie.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 02:25 PM
Eternals is not long for this world (not that this is really shocking)...it only ranked #106 for Sept.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 02:26 PM
SS had the gladiator gear on in Planet Hulk, so it's nothing new, yet it is kind of inexplicable why he'd have it on again while visiting a now dead/hell hole of a planet, after only wearing the gear in the first place because he was enslaved.

PAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/lou_dog2004/paaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkk.jpg

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 02:27 PM
Pretty much any art is.

I'd take Uy over Pham.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 02:29 PM
I think I'm gonna get the SI: War of Kings one shot, but I'm iffy on the mini.

On the one hand I love BB and the Inhumans, on the other I hate most Marvel cosmic stuff and loathe Vulcan. Unless I get a copious amount of BB punking Vulcan, I'm not much interested, and if effing Rachel Grey, Korvus, Lilandra, and that whole worthless group (aside from Havok and Polaris) show up (which they kind of have to), then it's like kryptonite to me.

I'm unsure myself. On one hand Black Bolt and Tom Raney art on the mini. On the other hand Annihilation: Conquest wasn't very good, Vulcan will probably win one fight, Shi'ar are pretty damn boring, Rachel Grey, and giant sword guy.

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 02:30 PM
Eternals is not long for this world (not that this is really shocking)...it only ranked #106 for Sept.

They just should have made it a second mini. As it is they pretty much set it up to fail.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 02:31 PM
I'd take Uy over Pham.

Really? See, I don't think I would for most things. On top of me thinking the art is atrocious overall, the very style of Uy's work grates on me. I hate the whole computer/digital art style that looks like half assed anime screen captures. Same thing with the Luna -- he's much more capable, but the style irks me.

Pham's tone at least fits superheroes, while Uy's just fits more lighthearted stuff.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 02:32 PM
I'm unsure myself. On one hand Black Bolt and Tom Raney art on the mini. On the other hand Annihilation: Conquest wasn't very good, Vulcan will probably win one fight, Shi'ar are pretty damn boring, Rachel Grey, and giant sword guy.

I'm leaning towards just getting the SI one shot, because it'll probably be dealing more with stuff I care about, and then I'll just read summaries/spoilers for the actual mini, and then get it on ebay or something if I decide I want it.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 02:35 PM
Scalped came in at #216 with 7,027 estimated direct market copies for Sept. I realize it does pretty well in trades, but much of comicdom needs a collective slap in the face (as did I regarding it like 6 months ago, but I came around).

Criminal has 2 (TWO!) fewer copies ordered for the Sept. issue than the previous one. That's consistency.

Echo is still doing quite well for an indy B&W $3.50 book, though it dropped more in Sept. than it did last time (when it hardly lost any readers before, like Criminal).

RedRonin
10-21-2008, 02:37 PM
Really? See, I don't think I would for most things. On top of me thinking the art is atrocious overall, the very style of Uy's work grates on me. I hate the whole computer/digital art style that looks like half assed anime screen captures. Same thing with the Luna -- he's much more capable, but the style irks me.

Pham's tone at least fits superheroes, while Uy's just fits more lighthearted stuff.
As much as I don't like the style, not to mention the overall product, but there's at least some sort of constancy. Pham despite having good inkers and colorists can't even turn out a decent panel. It all looks like scribbling by a 5 year old at times.

It comes down to half assed anime screen captures versus half assed chick scratchings.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 02:38 PM
As much as I don't like the style, not to mention the overall product, but there's at least some sort of constancy. Pham despite having good inkers and colorists can't even turn out a decent panel. It all looks like scribbling by a 5 year old at times.

It comes down to half assed anime screen captures versus half assed chick scratchings.

You know what's weird though? His Iron Man on that gatefold that is either a SI one shot or an MA cover wasn't awful. It wasn't great or anything, but it was adequate.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 02:43 PM
Hah

http://i.newsarama.com/images/FFFour-ff.jpg

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 02:57 PM
Alex Ross says he's done a cover for "Incredible Hulk #600", so apparently Hulk will be the next book to go back to the original numbering.

He also says he's doing a cover for Spider-Woman: Agent of Sword, which I assume will be a variant for #1. I KNOW S/V will be all over that. Alex Ross + Spider-Woman = gleeful S/V.

Oh, and he talks about his desire to always do the classic costumes of characters, (most curiously seen on the Uncanny #500 cover).

http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.5570.Tuesday_Q%26A~colon~_Alex_Ross

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 03:03 PM
Kudos to Marvel for putting out 2 issues of Ultimatum in Nov., and then no issue in Jan. Smooth.

That's another book that kind of has to hit on time, as it's going to mess up the launches of the new Ultimate stuff, but theoretically, it'll at least let the creative teams get ahead on them.

Kerny
10-21-2008, 03:50 PM
Read USM 127. Lots of dialouge Bendis talky stuff. Good read

Read ASM 574. It's the look at Flash Thompson issue. No spidey hardly what so ever. I can't wait to hear some of you guys thoughts on it. I liked it a lot, Flash just moved up a lot in my favorite supporting characters list. Kitson's art was also very nice in this.

However, my issue had the back of it and some of the back pages rips at the top of them. :mad:

Kerny
10-21-2008, 03:58 PM
And some people say Alan Davis' art sucks... This facial expression is priceless

http://www.the-isb.com/images/Detective571j.jpg

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 04:29 PM
Read USM 127. Lots of dialouge Bendis talky stuff. Good read

Read ASM 574. It's the look at Flash Thompson issue. No spidey hardly what so ever. I can't wait to hear some of you guys thoughts on it. I liked it a lot, Flash just moved up a lot in my favorite supporting characters list. Kitson's art was also very nice in this.

However, my issue had the back of it and some of the back pages rips at the top of them. :mad:

You're on probation for excessive praise of a Guggenheim issue. :wink:

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 04:35 PM
Various PAD Q&A's of interest:

Can you write a Summers Rebellion miniseries (which takes place in the future Layla is stuck in)? I think it'd be pretty cool — and at the end, Layla can come back! Can you at least tell us if we’ll be visiting this future again anytime soon?

I think a miniseries would be pretty nifty too. That's not my call to make, though. I certainly think it's material worth exploring; whether we do it in a miniseries or in the book itself remains to be seen.

RUBY!!!


Also, will Raimondi be returning to the book soon? I think the recent art changes are part of what’s led to the feeling of “unevenness” and loss of noir…

I wouldn't disagree. My understanding is that Valentine Delandro is going to be doing the book regularly, but the way things go in “X-Factor” land, that could be changed by the time this response sees print.

*Excessive glee with baited breath*

Beware before you click the link though -- there's some Stroman preview art that is eye burningly bad even in small form...though there's also some DeLandro art too.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18520

Skeets
10-21-2008, 04:47 PM
It would be cool if Raimondi came back, but I'm totally content with Delandro.

Kerny
10-21-2008, 04:50 PM
You're on probation for excessive praise of a Guggenheim issue. :wink:
Read it first!

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 04:54 PM
It would be cool if Raimondi came back, but I'm totally content with Delandro.

I love Raimondi, but I knew he was gone. I'm just happy that as far as PAD knows, DeLandro is on tap to be doing the book regularly.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 04:54 PM
Read it first!

Sadly, I will.

Kerny
10-21-2008, 05:06 PM
Hmm, I am not sure how I feel about what or who is the source that powers The Hood's erm hood...

Kerny
10-21-2008, 05:14 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/100821-All-Star-Morrison-01.html

Morrison is doing a reflections thing on All-Star Superman.

This would have made Bebop a happy person

After the 1999 pitch was rejected, I didn’t expect to be doing any further work on Superman but sometime in 2002, while I was going into my last year on New X–Men, Dan DiDio called and asked if I wanted to come back to DC to work on a Superman book with Jim Lee.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 05:15 PM
Hmm, I am not sure how I feel about what or who is the source that powers The Hood's erm hood...

Heh, still?!? 6+ years later?

Methinks you will never dig it then. :wink:

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 05:17 PM
This would have made Bebop a happy person

Awwwww, man.

So that didn't happen, Jim Lee clearly wanted to still do a Superman run, and SO THEY GAVE THE WRITING GIG TO BRIAN EFFING AZZARELLO?!?

Argh.

Kerny
10-21-2008, 05:35 PM
Heh, still?!? 6+ years later?

Methinks you will never dig it then. :wink:
No, I was trying to vaguely refer to NA 46 spoilers......

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 05:38 PM
No, I was trying to vaguely refer to NA 46 spoilers......

So it's something other than the mech-demon? Like the next guy in charge above him is revealed?

Kerny
10-21-2008, 05:45 PM
So it's something other than the mech-demon? Like the next guy in charge above him is revealed?
Yes....................established character

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 06:15 PM
Yes....................established character

I called it as being Mephisto way back when Bendis first said in an interview that he was bringing him back, and that he'd be a big player. This from hints from Brevoort that Mephisto would be the big bad to watch for the following year of that year, and that the Hood in BKV's mini was just a 2 bit hood, no pun intended, and someone would have to help him essentially become nu-Kingpin.

Would be cool if I was right, but people are kind of soured on Mephisto by association right now.

If not Mephisto, I guess Blackheart could make sense.

Kerny
10-21-2008, 07:08 PM
I called it as being Mephisto way back when Bendis first said in an interview that he was bringing him back, and that he'd be a big player. This from hints from Brevoort that Mephisto would be the big bad to watch for the following year of that year, and that the Hood in BKV's mini was just a 2 bit hood, no pun intended, and someone would have to help him essentially become nu-Kingpin.

Would be cool if I was right, but people are kind of soured on Mephisto by association right now.

If not Mephisto, I guess Blackheart could make sense.
The answer is in these spoil brackets below. Click if you want to or wait and see for yourself

Dormammu(flaming head Dr. Strange baddie) is the source behind the Hood's demon-ish powers.

Kerny
10-21-2008, 07:21 PM
It's old news, but none the less shocking and funny to me, that Hulk is the second best selling book of September.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 07:45 PM
It's old news, but none the less shocking and funny to me, that Hulk is the second best selling book of September.

It is kind of amazing. I mean, granted, it has a bump for being the end of the arc, and since its inception, it has had the benefit of 50/50 variants (sometimes even more), which always inflates sales, but still, to be selling like it is is pretty crazy.

With All Star Batman, you can understand the sales -- Jim Lee, Frank Miller, Batman. Even when half the comic reading population thinks it's utter tripe, and the other half think it's hilarious insanity, it sells 100K, and really it boils down to 2 of the things I listed especially -- Jim Lee and Batman.

With Hulk, he's a significantly less popular character, comic-sales wise. Planet Hulk was a hit, but really was never a HUGE seller, just more of a critical hit, and something that saw a bump in the previously anemic Incredible Hulk sales. WWH was big, but that was marketed as the CW palette cleanser event, and was really a MU vs. Hulk story than just a solo Hulk thing.

With Hulk, it's hard to really pinpoint WHY it's selling so well. Sure, it was expected to do well, but it doesn't really add up on first glance. Loeb almost always sells well, but he's always put on things destined to sell well. Still, he was on Ultimates 3, which sold less than Hulk (which I wouldn't have guessed, given that it was the Ultimates & Joe Madureira, but I guess it had been too long and the current generation of comics fans either didn't care/know about Joe MAD, or they didn't like it...that and his art isn't nearly as innovative looking 10+ years later when there's tons of copycats, and anime and manga have made a much greater impact in the time since he was doing comics semi-regularly), and his Superman/Batman run was a big seller, but dropped off during his last full arc. His Loeb "color" books sell decently, but not in spectacular fashion or anything, and Onslaught Reborn was a flop. So the moral of the story is: Loeb is a name that moves books, but not on an excessive level, where his name alone warrants a book at the very top of the charts.

Ed McGuinness is a big name and all, but again, he's not a name that moves a book to a Jim Lee-like level. When paired with Morrison on JLA Classified's launch and on his second Superman/Batman arc, sales were solid, but not spectacular.

So you have 3 proven ingredients, all of which usually do well, but not 2nd or 3rd best selling ongoing series well (NA outsold it the last few months prior to Hulk #6, and Astonishing does about the same, but with the changing creative teams, and irregular scheduling between both AXM and Hulk, it's hard to truly compare). So I guess it's the mix of all 3 things, coupled with the fun/insanity/lack of continuity that makes it sell so well.

Same thing really happened with Thor in that there were 3 well proven ingredients to the book (JMS, Coipel, Thor), but nobody expected 200k+ sales for #1 and overall sales that were better than Hulk's for the first 6 issues. In that case, it was the 3 ingredients making a legitimately high quality title & (even more so) the anticipation for Thor's return.

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 07:47 PM
He also says he's doing a cover for Spider-Woman: Agent of Sword, which I assume will be a variant for #1. I KNOW S/V will be all over that. Alex Ross + Spider-Woman = gleeful S/V.
NEVEEEEEEEEERR!!1!!

I am drunk

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 07:50 PM
NEVEEEEEEEEERR!!1!!

I am drunk

Given the state of the quote on your post, I'm not surprised.

You're quite the boozer lately, heh.

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 07:52 PM
I'm going to bed. Happy Birthday Kerny

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 07:57 PM
Given the state of the quote on your post, I'm not surprised.

You're quite the boozer lately, heh.
I am a student, it is expected of me

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 08:01 PM
I got caught up on Scalped (well up to #21...and I don't have #22 yet). Really strong stuff, and while it still likes to have an event happen and then fester around it for a whole arc, there was a bit more progression to the overall storyline compared to things early on, which was nice. I especially liked the character development for Falls Down and even more so for Carol (her backstory/breaking point with her father was a pretty essential tid bit that was finally revealed).

As an aside, I want to see Dash kicking some ass with him nunchucks. He doesn't really use them much, especially beyond his earliest appearance, and they just exist to look cool on covers. HE KNOWS JEET KUNE DO AND HAS NUNCHUCKS, HE'S ESSENTIALLY A MORE BADASS NATIVE AMERICAN SPIKE FROM COWBOY BEBOP! :wink:

Oh, and I want Jason Aaron on DD when Bru leaves.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 08:01 PM
I am a student, it is expected of me

Did you read the Scalped trade yet?

...or finish Sleeper?

Kid Impulse
10-21-2008, 08:05 PM
Did you read the Scalped trade yet?

...or finish Sleeper?
Not yet, I will soon but I want to finish Grapes of Wrath as soon as possible

Skeets
10-21-2008, 08:16 PM
Chimps are awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pFv8CAniYQ

Kerny
10-21-2008, 08:16 PM
I'm going to bed. Happy Birthday Kerny
Thanks! :smile:

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 08:25 PM
Chimps are awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pFv8CAniYQ

That was outstanding.

I love that he knows how to stop, but he prefers to bail at the last second, except for when he decided to be hardcore that one time and crash.

Kerny
10-21-2008, 08:37 PM
Elite XC folds.

Heh, it died when Kimbo's career did.

bebopeva88
10-21-2008, 10:51 PM
Got caught up on X-Factor. Luckily, I had negatively built up/dreaded getting through the Stroman illustrated issues to such a point that they were easier to deal with that I thought (though still rather horrifying). Missing the She Hulk tie in to the "He Loves You" arc wasn't bad at all...to be honest, it seemed like PAD wrote it so that if you missed the She-Hulk issue, you were fine (which is cool, cause I AM NOT reading She-Hulk). Longshot by PAD is pretty cool -- he's a character that can really flourish under a great writer, or seem awful with a crappy writer who can't utilize the good aspects of the character. Oh, and She-Hulk is a total bitch. Granted, I never liked She-Hulk in the slightest, but I outright hated her in the crossover with X-Factor.

With Stroman seemingly gone after this week's issue, Siryn's soon-to-be-born baby, and Damien Tryp returning, I have high hopes again for this book (though there is always kind of the feeling that the other shoe is about to drop when this book gets awesome). If/when Layla and Quicksilver pop up again, that'll be fantastic. I don't really mind Wolfsbane being gone, as she was my least favorite character, and Darwin is ok.

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 01:25 AM
You know what's weird though? His Iron Man on that gatefold that is either a SI one shot or an MA cover wasn't awful. It wasn't great or anything, but it was adequate.

Didn't not like.

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 01:30 AM
Alex Ross says he's done a cover for "Incredible Hulk #600", so apparently Hulk will be the next book to go back to the original numbering. Iron Man is coming up on 500. And Captain America is coming up on 500 or 600 depending on how you count it.

He also says he's doing a cover for Spider-Woman: Agent of Sword, which I assume will be a variant for #1. I KNOW S/V will be all over that. Alex Ross + Spider-Woman = gleeful S/V. As long as there is a Maleev cover I'm cool.

Oh, and he talks about his desire to always do the classic costumes of characters, (most curiously seen on the Uncanny #500 cover). Shocking. Of course he doesn't mind updates as long as he helps out with them.

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 01:31 AM
Kudos to Marvel for putting out 2 issues of Ultimatum in Nov., and then no issue in Jan. Smooth.
Now to be fair they haven't actually gotten those issues out yet, so something else could go wrong.

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 01:38 AM
Various PAD Q&A's of interest:

Can you write a Summers Rebellion miniseries (which takes place in the future Layla is stuck in)? I think it'd be pretty cool — and at the end, Layla can come back! Can you at least tell us if we’ll be visiting this future again anytime soon?

RUBY!!! WOO!


Also, will Raimondi be returning to the book soon? I think the recent art changes are part of what’s led to the feeling of “unevenness” and loss of noir…

*Excessive glee with baited breath*

http://tehparadox.com/forum/images/smilies/Perm/turtle.gifhttp://tehparadox.com/forum/images/smilies/Perm/turtle.gif

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 01:40 AM
I love Raimondi, but I knew he was gone. I'm just happy that as far as PAD knows, DeLandro is on tap to be doing the book regularly.

Yeah but that what they said about Sook, then Raimondi. However they also said it about Stroman.

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 01:41 AM
Awwwww, man.

So that didn't happen, Jim Lee clearly wanted to still do a Superman run, and SO THEY GAVE THE WRITING GIG TO BRIAN EFFING AZZARELLO?!?

Argh.

I thank them for that.

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 01:46 AM
I called it as being Mephisto way back when Bendis first said in an interview that he was bringing him back, and that he'd be a big player. This from hints from Brevoort that Mephisto would be the big bad to watch for the following year of that year, and that the Hood in BKV's mini was just a 2 bit hood, no pun intended, and someone would have to help him essentially become nu-Kingpin.

Would be cool if I was right, but people are kind of soured on Mephisto by association right now.

If not Mephisto, I guess Blackheart could make sense.

I don't think it's Mephisto. Granted I thought it more when it first was announced. I was thinking Mephisto was making a big play and that he'd do a lot of little things (Spider-Marriage, Hood) that would lead to something big, but now I just don't see it.

Maybe Baron Mordo. Which would help make that push of the Hood being the anti-Strange.

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 01:50 AM
It is kind of amazing. I mean, granted, it has a bump for being the end of the arc, and since its inception, it has had the benefit of 50/50 variants (sometimes even more), which always inflates sales, but still, to be selling like it is is pretty crazy.

With All Star Batman, you can understand the sales -- Jim Lee, Frank Miller, Batman. Even when half the comic reading population thinks it's utter tripe, and the other half think it's hilarious insanity, it sells 100K, and really it boils down to 2 of the things I listed especially -- Jim Lee and Batman.

With Hulk, he's a significantly less popular character, comic-sales wise. Planet Hulk was a hit, but really was never a HUGE seller, just more of a critical hit, and something that saw a bump in the previously anemic Incredible Hulk sales. WWH was big, but that was marketed as the CW palette cleanser event, and was really a MU vs. Hulk story than just a solo Hulk thing.

With Hulk, it's hard to really pinpoint WHY it's selling so well. Sure, it was expected to do well, but it doesn't really add up on first glance. Loeb almost always sells well, but he's always put on things destined to sell well. Still, he was on Ultimates 3, which sold less than Hulk (which I wouldn't have guessed, given that it was the Ultimates & Joe Madureira, but I guess it had been too long and the current generation of comics fans either didn't care/know about Joe MAD, or they didn't like it...that and his art isn't nearly as innovative looking 10+ years later when there's tons of copycats, and anime and manga have made a much greater impact in the time since he was doing comics semi-regularly), and his Superman/Batman run was a big seller, but dropped off during his last full arc. His Loeb "color" books sell decently, but not in spectacular fashion or anything, and Onslaught Reborn was a flop. So the moral of the story is: Loeb is a name that moves books, but not on an excessive level, where his name alone warrants a book at the very top of the charts.

Ed McGuinness is a big name and all, but again, he's not a name that moves a book to a Jim Lee-like level. When paired with Morrison on JLA Classified's launch and on his second Superman/Batman arc, sales were solid, but not spectacular.

So you have 3 proven ingredients, all of which usually do well, but not 2nd or 3rd best selling ongoing series well (NA outsold it the last few months prior to Hulk #6, and Astonishing does about the same, but with the changing creative teams, and irregular scheduling between both AXM and Hulk, it's hard to truly compare). So I guess it's the mix of all 3 things, coupled with the fun/insanity/lack of continuity that makes it sell so well.

Same thing really happened with Thor in that there were 3 well proven ingredients to the book (JMS, Coipel, Thor), but nobody expected 200k+ sales for #1 and overall sales that were better than Hulk's for the first 6 issues. In that case, it was the 3 ingredients making a legitimately high quality title & (even more so) the anticipation for Thor's return.
It is truly a weird phenomenon.

However it makes for good humor as the people who hate the book for silly reasons, throw little tantrums when it sells well.

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 01:51 AM
You're quite the boozer lately, heh.
Intervention time!

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 01:52 AM
Oh, and I want Jason Aaron on DD when Bru leaves.

I'm still holding out hope for a Andreyko/Phillps run, but Aaron is very much welcome.

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 02:01 AM
Chimps are awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pFv8CAniYQ

One step closer to being car jacked by Chimps.

Oh the sound effects make it seem so cute, then next thing you know a Chimp makes off with your Segway and balls.

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 02:02 AM
Elite XC folds.

Heh, it died when Kimbo's career did.

If 90% of your "career" is punching retards in their backyard, it's not a career.

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 02:05 AM
Got caught up on X-Factor. Luckily, I had negatively built up/dreaded getting through the Stroman illustrated issues to such a point that they were easier to deal with that I thought (though still rather horrifying). Missing the She Hulk tie in to the "He Loves You" arc wasn't bad at all...to be honest, it seemed like PAD wrote it so that if you missed the She-Hulk issue, you were fine (which is cool, cause I AM NOT reading She-Hulk). Longshot by PAD is pretty cool -- he's a character that can really flourish under a great writer, or seem awful with a crappy writer who can't utilize the good aspects of the character. Oh, and She-Hulk is a total bitch. Granted, I never liked She-Hulk in the slightest, but I outright hated her in the crossover with X-Factor.

With Stroman seemingly gone after this week's issue, Siryn's soon-to-be-born baby, and Damien Tryp returning, I have high hopes again for this book (though there is always kind of the feeling that the other shoe is about to drop when this book gets awesome). If/when Layla and Quicksilver pop up again, that'll be fantastic. I don't really mind Wolfsbane being gone, as she was my least favorite character, and Darwin is ok.

I very much await Stroman-less X-Factor.

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 02:07 AM
Finally saw an episode of Fringe tonight, pretty good. I don't really like the main chick, but it's not a deal breaker.

And The Shield was fucking awesome.

Kid Impulse
10-22-2008, 03:18 AM
NEVEEEEEEEEERR!!1!!

I am drunk
I want to semi-retract this. If the Spider-Woman in question is Julia, then all I'm pissed off about is Ross. I love Arachne

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 03:41 AM
I want to semi-retract this. If the Spider-Woman in question is Julia, then all I'm pissed off about is Ross. I love Arachne Yeah, but Ross hates Julia and has said he'd never draw her. When Bendis brought back Jessica Drew he shouted "WE WON!"

True story.

Kid Impulse
10-22-2008, 04:16 AM
Yeah, but Ross hates Julia and has said he'd never draw her. When Bendis brought back Jessica Drew he shouted "WE WON!"

True story.
The bastard

Kid Impulse
10-22-2008, 04:41 AM
Elite XC folds.

Heh, it died when Kimbo's career did.
Elite XC sounds like an eighties games console

Hurnslice
10-22-2008, 08:27 AM
Chimps are awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pFv8CAniYQ

That might be the post of the month.

There's always that moment when you think it'd be cool to own a chimp. But there was a moment when the chimp laid on it's back and grabbed it's crotch. Yeah, that wouldn't end well in your living room.

Hurnslice
10-22-2008, 09:00 AM
Cover of the Week:

Nods to Cho's Hulk and the Cyblade covers.

http://www.midtowncomics.com/images/PRODUCT/FUL/989032_ful.jpg

http://www.midtowncomics.com/images/PRODUCT/FUL/989080_ful.jpg

I like the minimalness of it. :cool:

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 09:12 AM
I don't think it's Mephisto. Granted I thought it more when it first was announced. I was thinking Mephisto was making a big play and that he'd do a lot of little things (Spider-Marriage, Hood) that would lead to something big, but now I just don't see it.

Maybe Baron Mordo. Which would help make that push of the Hood being the anti-Strange.

After the Spidey thing, I don't think it's Mephisto either, I was just remembering back when I made a guess about it that would have made sense at the time.

It would be funny if it were Doom, given all of his scheming around the MU over the past 18 months, and the fact that he is, for all intents a purposes, current Sorcerer Supreme (unofficially, since he came in 2nd place in the last tournament for Sorcerer Supreme).

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 09:14 AM
Yeah but that what they said about Sook, then Raimondi. However they also said it about Stroman.

Well they probably intended for it to be so with Sook (outside of the obvious need for fill ins due to his speed), but he jumped ship in one of the weirdest exclusive quittings (firings?) ever, and there was never a peep about it from either party, or even along gossip channels. Raimondi was never going to be on forever, and he could only do 7-8 issues a year. They never said Stroman was on indefinitely, just for the upcoming issues.

I was thinking when I was catching up on the series who I would like to see as new artist, and it's kind of hard to come up with one that would actually work. Maybe Clayton Henry, though I'd prefer the book get back to the quasi-noir stylings. Clay Mann would be good.

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 09:15 AM
I thank them for that.

For giving the gig to Azzarello, or for Morrisonm and Jim Lee not being able to make their schedules coincide enough to make it happen?

You were willing to read Wildcats by Morrison and Lee. :wink:

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 09:17 AM
I'm still holding out hope for a Andreyko/Phillps run, but Aaron is very much welcome.

Andreyko/Gaydos would be more likely as Phillips has Criminal and Incognito to do (though I wouldn't necessarily want Gaydos on DD despite liking him on certain projects; not that I see it happening really anyway).

Andreyko at Marvel would be nice, but you'd think they'd have given him some small stuff to do already if they wanted him.

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 09:19 AM
Finally saw an episode of Fringe tonight, pretty good. I don't really like the main chick, but it's not a deal breaker.

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/CMSIcons/emoticons/cool/cooldance2.gif


The main chick is my least favorite of the recurring/main cast as well, but as with you, it's not a deal breaker.

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 09:20 AM
Yeah, but Ross hates Julia and has said he'd never draw her. When Bendis brought back Jessica Drew he shouted "WE WON!"

True story.

Ross stories usually annoy me, but this one always makes me giggle.

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 09:24 AM
bebop's cover of the week: (tie; Hulk gets the nod if you put a gun to my head, as the coloring is what mostly makes the FC cover)

Hulk #7 Cho cover

http://www.midtowncomics.com/images/PRODUCT/FUL/989021_ful.jpg

Final Crisis #4 Darkseid character cover

http://www.midtowncomics.com/images/PRODUCT/FUL/988992_ful.jpg

3rd place: SI #7 Dell'Otto cover

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 09:28 AM
Jim Cheung is a bebopleaser because he doesn't draw bowl cuts.

http://i.newsarama.com/images/BattleSchool_01_VariantCove.jpg

Hurnslice
10-22-2008, 11:54 AM
Heh.

http://comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/1248/prv1248_pg4.jpg

Skeets
10-22-2008, 12:40 PM
No cover this week screams cover of the week to me.

Guess I'll go with Cyblade #1
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/704/cyar7.jpg

Kid Impulse
10-22-2008, 01:13 PM
Cover of the year!!!

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/1008/THORTRUTH_cov.jpg

I kid, I kid. Pretty boring week, I'll give it to USM

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/1008/ULTSM127_cov.jpg

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 01:16 PM
It's amazing what a few months can do. When Larry Stroman joined the "X-Factor" creative team just three months ago, the title felt like a bit of a jumbled mess. The story was promptly pulled into two months of a "Secret Invasion" tie-in, while Stroman's pencils were all over the place. And now? It feels like the book has once more found its way...Stroman's pencils, likewise, seem much more on point here than they did a few issues ago. There's much less random shifting of body types, a stronger stability on everyone's forms. Now we're getting the Stroman that I remembered from his original "X-Factor" run years ago; a good sense in drawing people's faces, and a real sense of energy and movement in his characters.

Granted, I have yet to see #36, but over the previous 3 issues, Stroman's art got progressively worse and less detailed. You could tell that more time was spent on his first issue than his 3rd. Somehow I doubt that changes for his 4th issue, much less he suddenly becomes competent. When people fondly refer to his original X-Factor run, it's always distressing, as I think his art back then was as bad, if not worse than it is now.

The bit about Stroman having "a good sense in drawing people's faces" really gets me. That's like saying Ramos draws photo realistic eyes and feet.

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 01:18 PM
Cover of the year!!!

I kid, I kid. Pretty boring week, I'll give it to USM


Davis' samey faces that always make guys look like Fabio is annoying.

I HATE Ultimate Gwen Stacy. Hate the character, REALLY hate her look, yet I love 616 Gwen Stacy. At least Immonen seems to draw Ultimate Gwen better than Bags. Bagley's version always gave me the same feeling of anger as seeing bowl cut Ender.

Kid Impulse
10-22-2008, 01:20 PM
I was gonna have this as my choice

http://dccomics.com/media/product/1/0/10345_400x600.jpg

but the kids have weird mouths.

Also, in the smaller version, it looks like the JLA are scaring the kids, not protecting them. If the cover was Batman going BOO! to some 5 year old* it would have got CoTW

Preferrebly drawn by Frank Miller

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 01:24 PM
I was gonna have this as my choice

but the kids have weird mouths.

Also, in the smaller version, it looks like the JLA are scaring the kids, not protecting them. If the cover was Batman going BOO! to some 5 year old* it would have got CoTW

Preferrebly drawn by Frank Miller

Heh, you and mouths.

The kids aren't scared by Batman, they're scared of the oppressive boredom of Hal Jordan. :wink:

Kid Impulse
10-22-2008, 01:24 PM
Davis' samey faces that always make guys look like Fabio is annoying.

I HATE Ultimate Gwen Stacy. Hate the character, REALLY hate her look, yet I love 616 Gwen Stacy. At least Immonen seems to draw Ultimate Gwen better than Bags. Bagley's version always gave me the same feeling of anger as seeing bowl cut Ender.
I love pretty much any Gwen Stacy, she's my favourite 'romantic interest' character. Moreso than Linda Park-West (Wally West) or Iris Allen (Barry) so that shows just how much I love Gwen.

Y'know who draws a stunning Gwen Stacy?

Alex Ross

Kid Impulse
10-22-2008, 01:26 PM
Heh, you and mouths.

The kids aren't scared by Batman, they're scared of the oppressive boredom of Hal Jordan. :wink:
Hal isn't in that pic

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 01:27 PM
I love pretty much any Gwen Stacy, she's my favourite 'romantic interest' character. Moreso than Linda Park-West (Wally West) or Iris Allen (Barry) so that shows just how much I love Gwen.

Y'know who draws a stunning Gwen Stacy?

Alex Ross

He does an ok job. His Gwen is one of the few female characters that is consistently decent.

John Romita's is always nice, and Adam Hughes' little commissions of her are always kind of interesting, since he can't be too cheesecakey with her. Tim Sale's version in Spider-Man: Blue was pretty cool.

http://image.comicvine.com:8000/item/2000/1480/7730-gwen-stacy_400.jpg

SnakeEyes
10-22-2008, 01:28 PM
I totally agree with you. At first glance, those kids mouths look very wierd. Perhaps they are too big for the face and also the colouring of their lips make them look fake or wierd too. It grabs your attention in the least, and the rest of the animation is pretty good I have to say.

Kerny
10-22-2008, 01:30 PM
Davis' samey faces that always make guys look like Fabio is annoying.

I HATE Ultimate Gwen Stacy. Hate the character, REALLY hate her look, yet I love 616 Gwen Stacy. At least Immonen seems to draw Ultimate Gwen better than Bags. Bagley's version always gave me the same feeling of anger as seeing bowl cut Ender.
Ultimate Gwen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regular 616 cookie sheet cut out Gwen

Now the ultimate Gwen clone carnage thing is almost a different character :wink: and I don't like her much.

Kerny
10-22-2008, 01:31 PM
If you drive and plan on coming to NC, stay off the road cause I got my license today!!! :cool:

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 01:31 PM
Hal isn't in that pic

That's because they're running away from him. Flash too, though that won't go over too well.

Hurnslice
10-22-2008, 01:32 PM
I totally agree with you. At first glance, those kids mouths look very wierd. Perhaps they are too big for the face and also the colouring of their lips make them look fake or wierd too. It grabs your attention in the least, and the rest of the animation is pretty good I have to say.

The kid in the Super Man costume is toast.

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 01:33 PM
Ultimate Gwen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regular 616 cookie sheet cut out Gwen


'Atta boy. Gotta keep the wrongness streak intact.

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 01:35 PM
If you drive and plan on coming to NC.

No worries there. :wink:

Congrats on the license though...just...BE CAREFUL.

*starts praying for the citizens of NC*

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 01:38 PM
LOOK AT THE HORROR KERNEL, THE HORROR!

Giant, souless, glassy doe eyes of death! Retarded hair!

http://www.mycomicshop.com/res/unprocessed/fullsize/BA147065.JPG

Hurnslice
10-22-2008, 01:39 PM
No worries there. :wink:

Congrats on the license though...just...BE CAREFUL.

*starts praying for the citizens of NC*

I see a Chevy Impala with ink black smoke pouring out the tail pipe.

Kid Impulse
10-22-2008, 01:40 PM
He does an ok job. His Gwen is one of the few female characters that is consistently decent.

John Romita's is always nice, and Adam Hughes' little commissions of her are always kind of interesting, since he can't be too cheesecakey with her. Tim Sale's version in Spider-Man: Blue was pretty cool.
I love AH! but her eyes look weird. She doesn't look 'girl next door' enough really.

Spider-Man: Blue is my favourite Spider-Man story and the one that made me love Gwen. I cried one manly tear at the end of it

I guess it also showed why MJ's a good wife and shit, but MJ sucks and can stay out of the Spidey books (that I'm not even reading)

Kerny
10-22-2008, 01:40 PM
LOOK AT THE HORROR KERNEL, THE HORROR!

Giant, souless, glassy doe eyes of death! Retarded hair!

http://www.mycomicshop.com/res/unprocessed/fullsize/BA147065.JPG
I could get lost in those eyes forever. *le swoon*

Hurnslice
10-22-2008, 01:41 PM
LOOK AT THE HORROR KERNEL, THE HORROR!

Giant, souless, glassy doe eyes of death! Retarded hair!

http://www.mycomicshop.com/res/unprocessed/fullsize/BA147065.JPG

She looks like Riley. :eek:


I'm kidding. Ult Gwen doesn't have half the rack.

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 01:43 PM
She looks like Riley. :eek:


WHY YOU --!!!

:mad: :evilangry:

Kid Impulse
10-22-2008, 01:44 PM
I could get lost in those eyes forever. *le swoon*
Love the quote :cool:

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 01:47 PM
Love the quote :cool:

S/V gets man lovey when drunk.

Hurnslice
10-22-2008, 01:54 PM
WHY YOU --!!!

:mad: :evilangry:

Speaking of which, have you caught "The Tower" yet?

Kid Impulse
10-22-2008, 01:54 PM
S/V gets man lovey when drunk.
Ooooooooh yeah :cool:

Kerny
10-22-2008, 01:56 PM
FC and SI both came out today :eek:

*SPOILER FIEND POWERS ACTIVATE*

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 01:57 PM
Speaking of which, have you caught "The Tower" yet?

That the most recent ep?

If so, no. I'll probably catch it Fri. when I do my tv catch up and there's no Phils game on.

Kid Impulse
10-22-2008, 01:59 PM
FC and SI both came out today :eek:

*SPOILER FIEND POWERS ACTIVATE*
RassumfrassumOuthousespoilingpartofSecretInvasionf rassum

bebopeva88
10-22-2008, 02:01 PM
FC and SI both came out today :eek:

*SPOILER FIEND POWERS ACTIVATE*

I'm so very ready for SI to be over. It's been good enough and all, but the loooooong build up, and then 8 months of actual event and tie ins have really taken their toll. Can't wait to actually read Avengers books with the teams in them again, and I'm especially anticipating the new rosters, the Dark Avengers in general, and the Evil Illuminati (though they could conceivably BE the Dark Avengers *gasp!*...in fact that chances of it are good, since the NA are sticking around). Really looking forward to the fallout and where the MU goes from there. I'm sick of Skrulls.

Hurnslice
10-22-2008, 02:08 PM
I'm so very ready for SI to be over. It's been good enough and all, but the loooooong build up, and then 8 months of actual event and tie ins have really taken their toll. Can't wait to actually read Avengers books with the teams in them again, and I'm especially anticipating the new rosters, the Dark Avengers in general, and the Evil Illuminati (though they could conceivably BE the Dark Avengers *gasp!*...in fact that chances of it are good, since the NA are sticking around). Really looking forward to the fallout and where the MU goes from there. I'm sick of Skrulls.

EMBRACE CHANGE!!!

RedRonin
10-22-2008, 02:42 PM
It would be funny if it were Doom, given all of his scheming around the MU over the past 18 months, and the fact that he is, for all intents a purposes, current Sorcerer Supreme (unofficially, since he came in 2nd place in the last tournament for Sorcerer Supreme).
I didn't ev