Uncanny X-Men #498 Spoiled!

[frog]

We see the first meeting of the mysterious Goddess and the aging hippies when they find her wandering in delirium on the streets. She has been confused by the events of M Day and touches the mind of the hippies, changing the way they see each other and the world. The changes continue to spread throughout San Francisco. In the present time the Goddess has just remembered her name – it is Martinique. She also thinks she knows something of the X-Men and who they are seeking.

Meanwhile in Russia Logan is being tortured in an attempt to extract information from Colossus. Peter tells the villain to keep on as he is sure that Wolverine can handle it. Poor Logan can barely stammer out “hey man, thass n’t cool” before he is zapped again. The inquisitor tells Colossus that the X-Men believe in nothing, and then goes on to talk about how he lost true patriots in Russia’s mutant program during the decimation and thinks it strange the X-Men survived while his mutants are now dead. Colossus doesn’t understand why the Russian mutants would have died until he is told without their powers they no longer had purpose and their deaths were ordered. Having established just how ruthless a man he is, the torturer turns to Nightcrawler, who is being held in restraints designed to electrocute him if he attempts to teleport. Nightcrawler manages to make the jump anyway, somehow carrying the electrical surge with him in a manner to short out Wolverine’s shackles. Logan makes short work of the guards and frees Peter but the leader escapes to enter a holding cell and orders the man crouching there to get up. Logan, followed by Peter who is carrying the weakened Nightcrawler, is hot on the leader’s trail and turns a corner in time to see the man being strangled to death by a metal tentacle. The 3 X-Men now find themselves confronting Omega Red.

In San Franciso Emma is disturbed because it has suddenly become easy for her to track the illusionist and she suspects she and Cyclops are being led into a trap. This suspicion is confirmed when they find the Goddess has sent Running Sun (Warpath), Frosty (Iceman), Lady Kitten (Hepzibah) and Angel (guess who) to keep the narcs from ruining their party.




Great move by Nightcrawler but I don’t really understand how he managed to move the electricity with him. Wolverine’s reaction to Colossus was priceless. The hippie names are hilarious, especially as Angel has simply kept the same name!

[Yoshi]

I wonder when this story takes place because if Warpath is in X-force and in here one has to take place before the other... Or at the same time? I dont know I am kind of loving this arc, kudos to Brubaker.

[creaky]

Colossus comment on Logan and Logan's reaction was awesome. And poor poor Kurt is going to need a vacation after this.

[DeniseXfrost]

Okay, the goddess thingy is getting alittle bit over the top. Deal with this plot already!

[Anna]

Martinique >>>Regan.

I was right about this!!!!

[DeniseXfrost]

...and Frosty? Iceman is obssesed with Emma!

[Pro]

Great move by Nightcrawler but I don’t really understand how he managed to move the electricity with him.

All things when whittled down to their bare components are made up of atoms, quarks, quantum particles. Still kinda silly because electricity would fizzle as soon as it was disconnected through teleportation but yea, just trying ..

[Naela]

Once again I'm in awe with how beautiful the art is, too bad the artist isn't staying past this arc :frown:

[worstblogever]

I wonder when this story takes place because if Warpath is in X-force and in here one has to take place before the other... Or at the same time? I dont know I am kind of loving this arc, kudos to Brubaker.

Well, I have a great answer for that, Yoshi. Wolverine's such a great leader in X-Force, that he already taught Warpath how to appear in two places and times at once.

Which... Wolverine is in this issue, too... so... one of these stories takes place in continuity either before OR after X-Force's first mission. And I'm leaning towards before, based off of what starts happening to Warren's wings in X-Force #4. Didn't want to spoil that for anyone who hasn't read it, either.

[Leirus]

Well, I have a great answer for that, Yoshi. Wolverine's such a great leader in X-Force, that he already taught Warpath how to appear in two places and times at once.

Which... Wolverine is in this issue, too... so... one of these stories takes place in continuity either before OR after X-Force's first mission. And I'm leaning towards before, based off of what starts happening to Warren's wings in X-Force #4. Didn't want to spoil that for anyone who hasn't read it, either.

It is considered spoilerish if it has appeared on previews?

Thanks for the review frog... (BTW was not Astonishing giant size expected for today? :biggrin: )

I think the Godess storyline is stretching too much? I wonder if they are going to take her in?

Quizz: Where and when as she been already depicted as a X-Men member?

[fitditz]

Overall a pretty good issue. Loved the Wolverine fight scenes by Choi (didn't know he had it in him!). Loved Frosty Iceman. I wanna new Avatar!

[frog]

Thanks for the review frog... (BTW was not Astonishing giant size expected for today? :biggrin: )



You're most welcome. Astonishing is due out, but I don't get it early, unfortunately.

[worstblogever]

It is considered spoilerish if it has appeared on previews?

I figured better safe than sorry, at least that early in the morning of its release. :redface:

Quizz: Where and when as she been already depicted as a X-Men member?

Closest I think there ever was to it... was Uncanny X-Men #401-406, when she was a part of Banshee's X-Corps. Albeit, she was doing so from captivity...

[frog]

I agree with WBE, I think the events in Uncanny have to be before what's happening in X-Force.

[Leirus]

I figured better safe than sorry, at least that early in the morning of its release. :redface:



Closest I think there ever was to it... was Uncanny X-Men #401-406, when she was a part of Banshee's X-Corps. Albeit, she was doing so from captivity...

Ok, you are right... I tend to forget how early is there

Upsss close, but not. This is horribly fanboyish to say, but it was in an issue of X-Men Unlimitted, inmediatly after the twelve, happening during "The Ages of Apocalypse" (NOT AoA) and depicting a future X-Men fighting in the moon against the Shi-ars and the Apoc. Riders... Mastermind (She was a brunette, so I am assuming she was Martinique) was instrumental defeating the aliens creating a Huge Phoenix ilusion around Jean :smile:

[DjMichael691]

This issue just felt right. This title is feeling right.

[fitditz]

I agree. Uncanny is getting better (finally). Personally I'm liking it a tad more than Legacy right now which is nothing more than a glorified drawn-out Xavier: Origins.

[Old No.7]

I love that Iceman is part of this. I had heard that he wasn't gonna be in any arcs or anything and was going into limbo but to see him here is wonderful.

LOL @ Warpath's hippie name.

[CaptainCanada]

On the subject of an X-Men title that, unlike AXM, doesn’t annoy the hell out of me:

- I really like the Russian story for its handling of their POV; the Russians, perhaps rightfully, are very suspicious that all their special ops mutants lost their powers on M-Day, while the X-Men were mostly spared (indeed, the bulk of the remaining non-villain mutants are X-Men or affiliated with them).

- I’m honestly not sure why the X-Men refuse to give the Russians any info, except maybe out of sheer spite, since it’s not like it’s worth anything.

- Omega Red's appearance has a sort of continuity note reminiscent of older comics; Brubaker explains that after his arrest in Wolverine: Origins Russia pressured SHIELD to hand him over to them.

- The Hippified X-Men were awesome.

All-in-all, this is just a good time. And, sigh, one more issue before Land arrives.

[CMBMOOL]

Colossus comment on Logan and Logan's reaction was awesome. And poor poor Kurt is going to need a vacation after this.

What's wrong with this one ? :tongue:


Still this is one weird issue and it's kind of interesting throw-back to the old strange but fun X-men tales from the 70s. :redface:

[Mitsaso]

Okay, this arc was looking really dragged out as I was almost completing this issue...

...I mean, we're in 4 issues out of 5 and Emma/Scott haven't even confronted the Goddess? They spent three issues trying to get there, and it's not like she was hiding in some fortress!

The Piotr/Kurt/Logan snippet is just filler, and I would have been happy with it if it wasn't all about 5 pages each issue of random Wolverine-slashing-goons fights. (the robot fight last month was actually great!).

So, I was about to come in here and rant about how the Russia stuff take away panel time which was needed for the San Fran arc to be more "quenching", but then... Frosty the hippie came along! Not to mention Hep and the others as hippies too!

Now I can't wait for the next issue (and, hopefully, more avatar-worthy scans of hippie Iceman)!!!!!:biggrin:

[Porcelain]

Wow. A cheesecake issue, with men as the porn? :biggrin: I love Choi (not to mention, scary Russian guy was done really well and even a semi-realistic Omega Red you wouldn't want to meet down a dark ally).

Fab issue, building on the fun & character beats - loooved Logan's reaction to Colossus.

P.S. Running Sun & Frosty must forever be, I'd even take Lady Kitten as is.

[Omega Alpha]

There's what, 3 Originals as hippies now? Poor Brian...

Anyway, this was excellent. Logan was hilarious and the X-hippies very funny too.

[Old No.7]

There's what, 3 Originals as hippies now? Poor Brian...

Anyway, this was excellent. Logan was hilarious and the X-hippies very funny too.

Well the other two are brainwashed and Cyclops only likes it because Emma looks hot in the clothes.

Technicalities, but it's how I sleep at night.

[fitditz]

Okay, this arc was looking really dragged out as I was almost completing this issue...

...I mean, we're in 4 issues out of 5 and Emma/Scott haven't even confronted the Goddess? They spent three issues trying to get there, and it's not like she was hiding in some fortress!

The Piotr/Kurt/Logan snippet is just filler, and I would have been happy with it if it wasn't all about 5 pages each issue of random Wolverine-slashing-goons fights. (the robot fight last month was actually great!).

So, I was about to come in here and rant about how the Russia stuff take away panel time which was needed for the San Fran arc to be more "quenching", but then... Frosty the hippie came along! Not to mention Hep and the others as hippies too!

Now I can't wait for the next issue (and, hopefully, more avatar-worthy scans of hippie Iceman)!!!!!:biggrin:
Ah Mitsaso, I wanted that Avatar :(

Its okay i'll get one out of the next issue :)

[Arkady Rossovich]

If someone can provide a scan of the Omega Red reveal, that'd be awesome! Hahaha I bet Choi makes him look feminine -- even with a 90s tough guy stereotype character like Omega Red, he can find a way. :biggrin:

[worstblogever]

If someone can provide a scan of the Omega Red reveal, that'd be awesome! Hahaha I bet Choi makes him look feminine -- even with a 90s tough guy stereotype character like Omega Red, he can find a way. :biggrin:

Oh, with that haircut, there's a way. Let Deb from "Napoleon Dynamite" demonstrate...

http://homepage.mac.com/shoat/tinamajorino.jpg

[Arkady Rossovich]

Oh, with that haircut, there's a way. Let Deb from "Napoleon Dynamite" demonstrate...

http://homepage.mac.com/shoat/tinamajorino.jpg

That's your example of feminine? :wink:

[worstblogever]

That's your example of feminine? :wink:

Don't be hatin' on Deb. She cleans up real nice.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/JR-1985/Veronica_Mars/Cast/TinaMajorino.jpg

Especially when you consider she was the little girl in "Waterworld" and once looked like this:

http://www.childstarlets.com/lobby/bios/portraits/tina_majorino13.jpg

Twelve years can do wonders, true enough. Anyway... comics... next issue... Fastball special on Omega Red. Bet on it.

[Josef F.]

Lady Kitten!!!!!!!!!
That's the best thing I've heard all year
:biggrin:

[streator]

when was omega red last seen? wolverine: origins? what happened there?

[Pach!]

I just wanted to add that I love the little "NEXT ISSUE -- " blurbs at the end. I hope that stays longterm.

[darknessatnoon]

when was omega red last seen? wolverine: origins? what happened there?

He terrorized Jubilee.

[Old No.7]

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6050/omegaredkz3.jpg

[Optic Rage!]

Really enjoyed this issue, sure the Logan fight was a bit drawn out..but it sure did look beautifull.

Something about the book just felt right...it just flowed really well!

I love Choi's version of Omega Red....much better then he normally looks!

And Cyclops & Emma Vs Angel, Iceman, Warpath, Hepzibah

Now that should be fun.

Bru is doing a great job on this arc!

Hippie X-Men!

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/8250/uncannyxmen498large23dr5.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uncannyxmen498large23dr5.jpg)

[Josef F.]

Lady Kitten
<3 <3

[lockerogue]

I loved this issue. Mike Choi is just so hot.

[HeckBoy]

Okay, the goddess thingy is getting alittle bit over the top. Deal with this plot already!Yeah, they've been taking that story pretty slowly, but they'll at least be finishing it next time.

[worstblogever]

when was omega red last seen? wolverine: origins? what happened there?

If memory serves...he attacked a shelter for depowered mutants. Jubilee and Maverick were there, Logan was looking for them, since he realized he needed the carbonadium synthesizer, and Maverick's always got the damn thing... has since the Cold War began.

And of course, Omega Red is the Wile E. Coyote to Maverick's Roadrunner, and tried to get it back. And failed, again, getting taken into S.H.I.E.L.D. custody in his very public battle with Logan, who was trying to stop him.

At least, that's what I remember.

[Leirus]

If memory serves...he attacked a shelter for depowered mutants. Jubilee and Maverick were there, Logan was looking for them, since he realized he needed the carbonadium synthesizer, and Maverick's always got the damn thing... has since the Cold War began.

And of course, Omega Red is the Wile E. Coyote to Maverick's Roadrunner, and tried to get it back. And failed, again, getting taken into S.H.I.E.L.D. custody in his very public battle with Logan, who was trying to stop him.

At least, that's what I remember.

Yep I remember to read somewhere that Russia claimed his custody to SHIELD

[JKMD]

Now THIS is a good X-Title. Hippies aside (Angel = Angel = more Warren hatred by the writers, I say!), this book has it all together. The art is just fantastic, the characters speak like the characters I'm familiar with, and I loved seeing Wolverine's claws actually through someone's neck.

Anyone else thought Omega Red was Sabretooth for a second when he was first seen? Maybe it was just wishful thinking on my part...

[Diablito]

Hooray for Martinique, and hooray for Omega Red!

[lockerogue]

I love Running Sun and Lady Kitten:biggrin:

[just another user]

Is Frosty constructed from frozen bongwater?

[Joe Franklin]

Once again I'm in awe with how beautiful the art is, too bad the artist isn't staying past this arc :frown:

But the good news is that Choi will be co-drawing alternate X-Force story arcs with Crain.

Uncanny's loss is X-Force's gain.:cool:

[CyberHubbs]

Is Frosty constructed from frozen bongwater?

We'll find out next issue if Running Sun starts licking him to get high.

[Toboe]

Even if this arc has already been dragging for a while, I completely loved this issue. Choi's art is looking beautiful, but the Wolverine's rage panels looked fierce! I am even more excited about his X-Force contribution now.

I didn't care at all for the Goddess revelation, but seeing the hippie X-Men is worth how long this has taken. Running Sun! Frosty! Lady Kitten! Angel (duh)! They're all incredibly fabulous, and you just know hippie Iceman has been up to something gay.

The Russia sroty has been quite entertaining as well, and I keep loving the fleshing out of Logan, Peter and Kurt's friendship.

[greenshoes713]

We'll find out next issue if Running Sun starts licking him to get high.

lol

nice vest Iceman

i would of loved seeing Rogue as a hippy

[justinkos91]

Hooray for Martinique, and hooray for Omega Red!

I agree, its nice to see Marinique being used, I just hope they keep her. Long time no see when it comes to Omega Red, this version looks better :) i hope he stays, no more deaths!!! bad enough kitty is gone from astonishing...

[La Fea]

Really enjoyed this issue, sure the Logan fight was a bit drawn out..but it sure did look beautifull.

Something about the book just felt right...it just flowed really well!

I love Choi's version of Omega Red....much better then he normally looks!

And Cyclops & Emma Vs Angel, Iceman, Warpath, Hepzibah

Now that should be fun.

Bru is doing a great job on this arc!

Hippie X-Men!

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/8250/uncannyxmen498large23dr5.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uncannyxmen498large23dr5.jpg)

HOT!

I wish Jimmy and Bob were decked out a bit more, though.

[greenshoes713]

hey on second thought Lady Kitten isnt so bad its way better then Hepzibah she should keep her hippie name

Agree or disagree?

[Toboe]

They all should keep their hippie names!

Especially Angel, his is the most original of them.

[Alphaxman]

Too bad Logan couldn't do all his fights in his boxers. Is it bad that Logan is that hot. Choi needs to ugly up some of his men. I would want to sleep with all of them if I was a comic book character. Yum Running Sun, can I smell your roses?

Oh and Regan>>>>Martinique even if she does seems more powerful. :wink:

[rwsmith]

Dude! Wolverine was badass in this issue. For that reason alone I loved it, but there was much more to love. Like Choi's art, for one thing. Can't wait to see him on X-Force!

[La Fea]

hey on second thought Lady Kitten isnt so bad its way better then Hepzibah she should keep her hippie name

Agree or disagree?

Agree!!!

Lady Kitten is rather catchy, actually.

[timbox]

hey on second thought Lady Kitten isnt so bad its way better then Hepzibah she should keep her hippie name

Agree or disagree?

It's not bad, but we already have good Lady's, and Kitten is sorta kinda taken.

[La Fea]

It's not bad, but we already have good Lady's, and Kitten is sorta kinda taken.

Was taken.

Arr eye pee gurl.

[darknessatnoon]

and Kitten is sorta kinda taken.

not anymore.

[streator]

omega red looks cool, thanks for the scan.

[DeniseXfrost]

Martinique is only a illutionist right? So how can she psi block Emma?

[lockerogue]

I think both Regan and Martinique have telepathy. But at a very low level

[DeniseXfrost]

But at a very low level
Yeb I hope Bru found a good explanation to her sudden off the chart power.

[Arkady Rossovich]

Choi's rendition of Omega Red is simply the coolest the character has ever looked. Marvel, make this the standard costume, please.

[creaky]

Agree!!!

Lady Kitten is rather catchy, actually.

I would totally prefer Lady SKUNK.:mad:

So I got the issue. Ooo, beefcake. A little too many pages dedicated to just Logan slicing people (yawn) and while I guess I can now see how Kurt transported the electricity (it came from devices attached to him, right?), I still need to know just how he did not get fried to a crisp by 10000 volts? I loved the stunt regardless, of course. It was totally the kind Kurt would pull.

I'm not supposed to take the Russian villain seriously, right? It's all wink-wink tongue-in-cheek, right?

[Flâneur]

Yeb I hope Bru found a good explanation to her sudden off the chart power.

When in doubt : Wanda did it!

/explanation.

[steve2275]

Fab issue, building on the fun & character beats - loooved Logan's reaction to Colossus.
what reaction?

[Nyssane]

I think both Regan and Martinique have telepathy. But at a very low level

Naw, they were high-level telepaths. Martinique pointed out herself that her telepathy is far beyond anything her father could've done, plus in the X-Corps storyline, she mind-controlled countless people into serving Banshee (or so he thought).

[DeniseXfrost]

Naw, they were high-level telepaths. Martinique pointed out herself that her telepathy is far beyond anything her father could've done, plus in the X-Corps storyline, she mind-controlled countless people into serving Banshee (or so he thought).
I'm not sure about Martinique but Regan is a very low level telepath.
When in doubt : Wanda did it!

/explanation.
haha.

[Pyro]

I liked this issue a lot more than previous ones, but I still feel like this arc is taking way too long.

[dotdotdot]

I liked this issue a lot more than previous ones, but I still feel like this arc is taking way too long.

to it's credit, it's got two stories going, each with a decent sized cast.

[fitditz]

I liked this issue a lot more than previous ones, but I still feel like this arc is taking way too long.
i feel the xavier arc in legacy is taking way too long! end that shit now!

[Askani's Flame]

I'm not sure about Martinique but Regan is a very low level telepath.

I'm pretty sure that they both are low-level telepaths. They inherited their illusion skills from their Pops, but they also have limited telepathic abilities which enhance their illusions.

[MuhollandDriver]

Who is Martinique?

I totally missed out on the revelation.

She must be a character introduced while I wasn't reading.

[darknessatnoon]

Who is Martinique?

I totally missed out on the revelation.

She must be a character introduced while I wasn't reading.

She is Mastermind's daughter, Regan's half-sister. Was introduced during the X-Corps storyline. This is the first time we've seen her with hair, which was a storytelling swerve.

[Anna]

She is Mastermind's daughter, Regan's half-sister. Was introduced during the X-Corps storyline. This is the first time we've seen her with hair, which was a storytelling swerve.

Her first appearance was in Gambit/Wolverine: Victims #2, and she had hair. She was introduced at least a year before her sister.

[Flameworthy]

She is Mastermind's daughter, Regan's half-sister. Was introduced during the X-Corps storyline. This is the first time we've seen her with hair, which was a storytelling swerve.

Actually her first appearance was in Wolverine/Gambit: Victims #2, where she was had hair. She was even shown as a member of Mystique's Brotherhood of Evil Mutants prior to the X-Corps storyline.

[darknessatnoon]

Her first appearance was in Gambit/Wolverine: Victims #2, and she had hair. She was introduced at least a year before her sister.

Actually her first appearance was in Wolverine/Gambit: Victims #2, where she was had hair. She was even shown as a member of Mystique's Brotherhood of Evil Mutants prior to the X-Corps storyline.

Ooops. I missed Wolverine/Gambit.

[Karthak]

Man, I hope there aren't that many russians reading this.

[fitditz]

Man, I hope there aren't that many russians reading this.
Care to elaborate?

[Karthak]

Care to elaborate?

Because Russia has got this love affair with hard-core nationalism going on right now, and if some right-wing nitwit caught this issue of how Russia is portrayed in an american comic, then I bet you 50 euros he would find a way to make it into a shitstorm.

Of course, I'm probably over-reacting, but the cynic in me says I'm under-reacting.

[Brett P]

I'm liking the Kurt/Logan/Peter stuff and it's great to see Omega Red again. Looking forward to that showdown!

The hippy stuff is absolutely ludicrous though, as is the fact that the appearances of Warpath, Angel and Logan in this arc clashes with X-Force really badly, since both stories have entirely seperate events happening directly after Messiah Complex...

Overall this arc is far too much filler for far too long (5 months?!) but atleast it's been pretty to look at...Iceman looked great!

It was interesting reading X-Force and then following with this, comparing the art style of the artists who will now be alternating art duties on X-Force.

[Pro]

Because Russia has got this love affair with hard-core nationalism going on right now, and if some right-wing nitwit caught this issue of how Russia is portrayed in an american comic, then I bet you 50 euros he would find a way to make it into a shitstorm.

Of course, I'm probably over-reacting, but the cynic in me says I'm under-reacting.

Not euros, it's roubles!!

Proletarians unite!

No wait, wrong era ..

Little more seriously, non-americans are used by now seeing other parts of the world portrayed as some faeryland stuck in the 1800's with everyone wearing traditional clothes and unable to utter a single damn sentence without some native words crammed in into it. Gott in himmel, it's not like we're not used to being portrayed as backward retards by now.

[Schuimend Mormel]

Little more seriously, non-americans are used by now seeing other parts of the world portrayed as some faeryland stuck in the 1800's with everyone wearing traditional clothes and unable to utter a single damn sentence without some native words crammed in into it. Gott in himmel, it's not like we're not used to being portrayed as backward retards by now.I think it was a reference to the reaction the new Indiana Jones caused in some Russian communist politician who wanted to ban it for its portrayal of communism. But the movie is actually a great success in Russia, so the joke's on him.

[We R. Venom]

As soon as Mike Carey told me Frosty was gonna be in Uncanny #498 I was freakin on board. And I sure as hell was not dissapointed. I'm going to get the rest of the run. To think I was gonna wait till #500. The art was great and the writing was fun as hell. Can't wait for the next one.

[Agent_Torpor]

The Russian escapades are getting stale, but it's about time the rest of the book picked up. It's been on snooze for the past three issues.

[SYBERNYMPH]

I Wish We Could Bring In
Red Lotus
Lifeguard
Bring Back
Copycat
Catseye

[Yoshi]

I Wish We Could Bring In
Red Lotus
Lifeguard
Bring Back
Copycat
Catseye

Lifeguard should stay in Limbo or claremonts hands, both are equally bad.

[Omega Alpha]

Lifeguard should stay in Limbo or claremonts hands, both are equally bad.

Claremont's hands is too much of a punishment for any character.

Except Thunderbird III.

[Yoshi]

Claremont's hands is too much of a punishment for any character.

Except Thunderbird III.

Lifeguard was teh sucks though, her and thunderbird III should have their own ongoing written by claremont and drawn by a 4 year old blind kid.

[TinMan]

This issue was cool. This arc is cool. Choi is a pimp and should not leave the X-stables. Brubaker is rockin' though I feel some of Logan's comments were not very "Logany", but no big deal.

Omega Red is pimp. Here's hopin' Bru does some good stuff with him.

'Nuff said.

[Pyro]

to it's credit, it's got two stories going, each with a decent sized cast.Maybe, but still, if I were to summarize the San Francisco story it would be: 495- Angel finds hippies, 496-Scott and Emma go to SF to find Angel and Hepzibah, 497-Scott and Emma change clothes, 498- Scott and Emma find X-Hippies (this may not be completely accurate as I don't have the issues on me). If you ask me, all of this could have and should have happened in one issue. Maybe Brubaker should have split the stories into two separate arcs with more story progression each issue.

i feel the xavier arc in legacy is taking way too long! end that shit now!Oh, yeah, I agree, but this is the thread for UXM so I didn't bring it up. Honestly none of the X-Books really appeal to me anymore. It makes me sad.:frown:

[DeniseXfrost]

I wish Emma would stop calling Scott "My, love..." too cheesy!

[Old No.7]

I wish Emma would stop calling Scott "My, love..." too cheesy!

I agree, lets kill her.

[DeniseXfrost]

I agree, lets kill her.
Now you're starting to sound like her old self; I like it.

[Pyro]

I wish Emma would stop calling Scott "My, love..." too cheesy!
Yeah, I thought the same thing when I was reading the issue. I figured it was just because of my disdain for people in relationships and my lack of experience in one that I felt that way, though. :tongue:

[DeadXMan]

Choi Art is once again top notch

I can't wait to see him in X-force

[La Fea]

Her first appearance was in Gambit/Wolverine: Victims #2, and she had hair. She was introduced at least a year before her sister.

Yeah, before she transformed into "The Goddess" she looked more like she had originally.

http://image.comicvine.com:8000/item/16000/15167/35422-mastermind-ii_400.jpg

I wish Emma would stop calling Scott "My, love..." too cheesy!

LOL! Its a major reason why I don't enjoy her like I used to!

[_Jayme_]

It's odd, but I actually liked this story, despite Emma not being in it that much.

Choi's Wolverine is smoking hot and I've officially found an artist who draws Emma better then Land.

[worstblogever]

It's odd, but I actually liked this story, despite Emma not being in it that much.

Choi's Wolverine is smoking hot and I've officially found an artist who draws Emma better then Land.

Which, some would debate if Land "draws" Emma or "traces" her.

So yes, Mike Choi FTW. :biggrin:

[RoguishGurl]

It's odd, but I actually liked this story, despite Emma not being in it that much.

Choi's Wolverine is smoking hot and I've officially found an artist who draws Emma better then Land.
It took you this long to figure it out? I'm shocked.

[timbox]

Which, some would debate if Land "draws" Emma or "traces" her.

So yes, Mike Choi FTW. :biggrin:

That's not much of a debate, really.

[Seikun21]

So yes, Mike Choi FTW. :biggrin:

Long live Choi/Oback! Man I wish they didn't have to go to X-Force. Their work on Uncanny has been great.

[Dagger]

Her first appearance was in Gambit/Wolverine: Victims #2, and she had hair. She was introduced at least a year before her sister.
A year? Try almost a decade earlier. That mini was in the 90's.

[RoguishGurl]

Long live Choi/Oback! Man I wish they didn't have to go to X-Force. Their work on Uncanny has been great.

I'm happy that they are going to X-Force. Then again I'm biased because X-Force is my fav right now. I just wish that Land wasn't following them.

[DeniseXfrost]

I'm happy that they are going to X-Force. Then again I'm biased because X-Force is my fav right now. I just wish that Land wasn't following them.
I think Choi's art is too beautiful for x-force.

[La Fea]

Long live Choi/Oback! Man I wish they didn't have to go to X-Force. Their work on Uncanny has been great.

OMG! Cutest avatar ever!!!!!

Where is it from???????????????????????????????????

[Seikun21]

OMG! Cutest avatar ever!!!!!

Where is it from???????????????????????????????????

There's this artist on livejournal ramalama14 (http://ramalama14.livejournal.com/)

His/Her art is so pretty, it's mostly been some really awesome Young Avengers stuff so far. Here's the full (somewhat hypnotizing) gif. The Wiccan UmaUma Dance.

http://pics.livejournal.com/ramalama14/pic/000149dq

[DeniseXfrost]

OMG So cute and so gay LOL

[La Fea]

OMG it is so both of those things, Denise!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the link, Seikun!!! His/her stuff is so amazingly awesome I CANNOT STAND IT.

[Porcelain]

I think Choi's art is too beautiful for x-force.
Read Target X, he's gonna do fine.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i156/seraphinious/x23.jpg

[Flâneur]

There's this artist on livejournal ramalama14 (http://ramalama14.livejournal.com/)

His/Her art is so pretty, it's mostly been some really awesome Young Avengers stuff so far. Here's the full (somewhat hypnotizing) gif. The Wiccan UmaUma Dance.

http://pics.livejournal.com/ramalama14/pic/000149dq

Oh gosh, that's like the best ever.

And the artist likes Roísin Murphy! Awesome

I so want one like that with Nocturne, Speed and Wiccan in there. It'd be bliss.

[RoguishGurl]

I think Choi's art is too beautiful for x-force.
I don't think so. Plus he said he and Oback were trying a newer style for X-Force on his blog.
http://mikechoirants.blogspot.com/2008/04/quick-q-and-session-without-qs.html

Read Target X, he's gonna do fine.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i156/seraphinious/x23.jpg
And his X-23 and Wolverine fight was wonderful!!

Here are scans provided by scans_daily.
http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/5176156.html

Choi and Oback are going to be awesome on X-Force. But hopefully Land won't stay long on Uncanny. I love this book too.

[deadpool2008]

Angel, Hippie Name: Angel LOL. This book is beautiful.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Not much happening and the Red Room baddie turned out to be a jjoke, lol.

BUT... that Omega Red scene was glorious and there were more x-hippies.

You go, Bru.

[gunnerfan69]

Do we know who the hippie goddess is yet? It looks like she was wearing a shield uniform.

[Cruelly_Innocent]

Do we know who the hippie goddess is yet? It looks like she was wearing a shield uniform.

it's explained in the very first pages..Martinique Jason..Mastermind II..half-sister of Regan Wyngarde...Lady Mastermind

such an original pair of daughters that Wyngarde spawn(ed):cool:

[lockerogue]

God I love Lady Kitten so much. That's Hep's new codename forever and ever. Lady Kitten.

[DeniseXfrost]

Read Target X, he's gonna do fine.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i156/seraphinious/x23.jpg

Nice! MC is amazing!

[Affinity]

I wish Hepzibah had turned into a Caribbean-inspired hippie and had the hippie name of "Kitten Gyal" !

[Alphaxman]

I don't think so. Plus he said he and Oback were trying a newer style for X-Force on his blog.
http://mikechoirants.blogspot.com/2008/04/quick-q-and-session-without-qs.html


And his X-23 and Wolverine fight was wonderful!!

Here are scans provided by scans_daily.
http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/5176156.html

Choi and Oback are going to be awesome on X-Force. But hopefully Land won't stay long on Uncanny. I love this book too.


I think they will just add more shadows and darken the color to fit the tone of the book.

Just as long he keeps drawing Logan fighting in his boxers.:tongue:

[Affinity]

I agree with the darker shades and shadowing.

I'd like to see Choi get a little creative and less cookie cutter clean with the line art, and I expect it to be a bloody mess! Much worse than Target X.

[Anna]

Hepzibah ought to be called "Lady Cougar"

[Pro]

Why do people keep calling Hepzibah catnames .. she's a skunk, not a feline ..

Not much happening and the Red Room baddie turned out to be a jjoke, lol.

I'm overall rather disappointed with the current stories and that's coming from someone who defended the Shi'ar storyline ..
All government ex-mutants killed so they won't ever come back even if the mutant race is repowered and merely to show how ruthless a villain the russian red room guy was and then a couple of pages down the line he is killed off never to be heard again. Pretty pointless, then again maybe pointlessness is all one should expect of obvious filler material.

[DDM]

Again, Ed Brubaker uses decompression to tell a mediocre story. Uncann X-Men #497-498 could have been 1 book if edited properly. The Goddess is Martinique Jason, Mastermind II? Okay...

3/10

[gunnerfan69]

Again, Ed Brubaker uses decompression to tell a mediocre story. Uncann X-Men #497-498 could have been 1 book if edited properly. The Goddess is Martinique Jason, Mastermind II? Okay...

3/10

Thx. Cheers for that.

[Agent_Torpor]

Why do people keep calling Hepzibah catnames .. she's a skunk, not a feline ..





First Hank, now Hep. STOP WITH THE FELINIZATION!

[timbox]

Why do people keep calling Hepzibah catnames .. she's a skunk, not a feline ..


We give her cat names because she's purrrrrrrrfect.

[La Fea]

The Goddess is Martinique Jason, Mastermind II? Okay...

3/10

Don't act like you weren't excited!

[greenshoes713]

Hepzibah ought to be called "Lady Cougar"

but then ppl would get confused and think she trolls for young men :wink:

[Anna]

Well.......

[Hakael]

Why do people keep calling Hepzibah catnames .. she's a skunk, not a feline ..


Skunks have kittens too...

[Affinity]

Don't act like you weren't excited!

Lulz! I was!

[DeniseXfrost]

LOL guess what my class's assignment is...."Analysis of the hippie movement" LOL

Emma helps me!

[RoguishGurl]

I agree with the darker shades and shadowing.

I'd like to see Choi get a little creative and less cookie cutter clean with the line art, and I expect it to be a bloody mess! Much worse than Target X.
Make sure you read his X-Force arc then.

[Schuimend Mormel]

Why do people keep calling Hepzibah catnames .. she's a skunk, not a feline ..The way I interpret it, her race is 'feline', but she has certain visual traits that look like a skunk's. Which is why Corsair gave her the nickname.

Her race name 'Mephitisoids' refers to skunks, but I see it as yet more homage to Miss Mam'selle Hepzibah. But whether her race is cat-like or skunk-like, it's only resemblance, because she can't be related to Earth cats or skunks.I'm overall rather disappointed with the current stories and that's coming from someone who defended the Shi'ar storyline ..
All government ex-mutants killed so they won't ever come back even if the mutant race is repowered and merely to show how ruthless a villain the russian red room guy was and then a couple of pages down the line he is killed off never to be heard again. Pretty pointless, then again maybe pointlessness is all one should expect of obvious filler material.I think the story so far could have easily fitted into 2 issues instead of 4.

But the death of something over a dozen of mutants we've never even seen can't be considered gratuitous killing like the death of known characters such as the Institute students in the bus explosions. And there must still be millions of depowered mutants left who could be repowered if they ever find a way to reverse M-Day. I'm happy that Brubaker addresses how decimation barely affected the X-Men, while the majority of the mutants in the world did lose their powers. I hope he doesn't drop that point.
I'm not that disappointed that the Red Room guy didn't turn out to be this storyline's Big Bad; in fact I can appreciate when they set up someone as the menacing villain, and then chop them down mere issues after their introduction. It usually works better if a brand-new villain is used to do the chopping down, but eh... Omega Red.



One thing: If the old ex-hippies found Mastermind shortly after hearing of M-Day in the news, and Mastermind immediately created her illusion after meeting them (even though the illusion spread slowly), shouldn't the world have noticed the odd change in San Francisco during the months that have passed since M-Day?

[tetragene]

Again, Ed Brubaker uses decompression to tell a mediocre story. Uncann X-Men #497-498 could have been 1 book if edited properly. The Goddess is Martinique Jason, Mastermind II? Okay...

3/10

I agree the story arc could be told in less issues (even though there are two different stories/plots being juggled) but...I'm seriously having a very hard time believing ANYONE could state this story is badly suffering from decompression and give it a 3/10...yet scored the last arc of NEX 7/10's and above and felt the last arc needed the 7 very-long, drawn out issues it was given. I'm just sayin'--consistency plz.

[DDM]

I agree the story arc could be told in less issues (even though there are two different stories/plots being juggled) but...I'm seriously having a very hard time believing ANYONE could state this story is badly suffering from decompression and give it a 3/10...yet scored the last arc of NEX 7/10's and above and felt the last arc needed the 7 very-long, drawn out issues it was given. I'm just sayin'--consistency plz.

I start any decompressed story with a 5 as a highest score to note the decompression. I can't give a decompressed story as 6 or above since it lacks any substance to go any higher.

Some decompressed stories do have the substance to match, but they are few & far between.