View Full Version : Who's capable of suicide by using their powers on themselves?
ProfeZZor X
05-28-2008, 05:48 PM
I can imagine some pretty hilarious and stupid scenarios of Colossus punching himself in the face, or Nightcrawler teleporting himself inside a wall or volcano, but since most, if not all mutants are immune to their own powers, who is capable of killing themselves based on using their powers on themselves, or indirectly killing themselves as a result of using their powers?
CyberHubbs
05-28-2008, 05:52 PM
Gambit could energize a stack of cards before shoving them inside his Cajun mouth?
Home made ectoplasm
05-28-2008, 05:56 PM
Hmm I would have expected you to have made a poll out of this one.
Peter F.
05-28-2008, 05:57 PM
I think that a mutant would die if they were to use their powers too much, overextending themselves, going to levels they can't survive.
Storm's body probably couldn't handle controlling too many weather systems all at once or in rapid succession, she'd either die or move onto another plane of being.
If Surge used up all of the electrical charge that she held or absorbed too much she'd probably die.
HeckBoy
05-28-2008, 05:57 PM
Depends what you mean by indirectly killing themselves. I can imagine any number of "energy beam shooters" shooting off their powers and have collateral damage fall on and kill them. Likewise, explosions resulting from powers seems like a pretty easy way to kill some characters.
La Fea
05-28-2008, 06:01 PM
All?????????
timbox
05-28-2008, 06:02 PM
All?????????
correct!!!!!
ProfeZZor X
05-28-2008, 06:02 PM
Hmm I would have expected you to have made a poll out of this one.
This applies to ANY MUTANT, dead or alive. Why should this be a poll?
To be fair Brian, this seems to be a thread that some thought DID go into.
It's just that I'm not really sure I want to know what that line of thought was.
A tad....morbid, to say the least. Sometimes I worry about you, Prof, lol.
It was just one of those thoughts that came up when I was thinking about Gentle exhausting himself using his powers.
greenshoes713
05-28-2008, 06:03 PM
Gambit could energize a stack of cards before shoving them inside his Cajun mouth?
Or his.. wait i like Gambit never mind
Kitty could phase her self inside a wall and stop that would be an instant death
La Fea
05-28-2008, 06:04 PM
correct!!!!!
Am I on the leader board now??????????
Old No.7
05-28-2008, 06:04 PM
Or his.. wait i like Gambit never mind
Kitty could phase her self inside a wall and stop that would be an instant death
I'd prefer she phase herself into a magic bullet and get shot into space for the rest of her life.
Monty_Cristo
05-28-2008, 06:17 PM
if Shortpack had just let his mutation follow it's natural path, he would have shrank out of existence.
Joe Acro
05-28-2008, 06:21 PM
One of Nightcrawler's biggest fears is teleporting and rematerializing inside a wall. I think we can assume that would kill him.
worstblogever
05-28-2008, 06:44 PM
I think you'd be harder pressed to name the characters who CAN'T.
And even then... most of the enhanced strength and durability types would be fine.
But anyone with teleportation, energy projection, mental powers... adamantium blades... etc... they could give themselves a dirt nap.
darknessatnoon
05-28-2008, 06:44 PM
Well,
I am ashamed to say I've thought about this issue.
CC once wrote Psylocke being forced to cut herself with her own psychic katana when she was wrestling with that lady in the Goth (I forget her name... they all had stupid names).
Sage could overload her computer mind by applying her relentless thoughts to a paradox.
In X-Men: The End, doesn't Storm's constant use of electricity paralyze her?
Finally, I bet Bobby would suffocate if he froze his mouth shut.
Swashbuckler
05-28-2008, 07:16 PM
We need pics of Storm in that stupid gimp suit she had to wear in The End.
And aren't some energy mutants immune to their own power.
Old No.7
05-28-2008, 07:32 PM
http://www.susansizemore.com/WolverineConvergence/X-MenTheEndStorm-2.jpg
Wonder if Logan has to play that "airplane" game to get Storm to eat her vegetables.
darknessatnoon
05-28-2008, 07:37 PM
We need pics of Storm in that stupid gimp suit she had to wear in The End.
And aren't some energy mutants immune to their own power.
Some are. But Gambit once blinded himself with one of his own kinetically charged cards.
Thankfully, someone jump-started him. :smile:
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/darknessatnoon/jumpstart1.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/darknessatnoon/jumpstart2.jpg
Swashbuckler
05-28-2008, 07:41 PM
http://www.susansizemore.com/WolverineConvergence/X-MenTheEndStorm-2.jpg
Wonder if Logan has to play that "airplane" game to get Storm to eat her vegetables.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, considering how much time Claremont spent making her the ultra X-Woman in his run it's sad that this is how he see's her future. I mean, I think Storm's lame as hell currently, but she doesn't deserve this.
DeadXMan
05-28-2008, 09:05 PM
Actualy a mutant can't hurt themseves with their own powers, it's also the reason why siblings or close kinship can't harm each other.
DeadXMan
05-28-2008, 09:07 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, considering how much time Claremont spent making her the ultra X-Woman in his run it's sad that this is how he see's her future. I mean, I think Storm's lame as hell currently, but she doesn't deserve this.
Didn't she become that way helping Carol whip out the Brood once and for all?
plus she was heal by jean at the END of THE END
Leirus
05-28-2008, 09:48 PM
I think you'd be harder pressed to name the characters who CAN'T.
All right, here we go.
The girl who had the tattoo powers over in Xtreme X-Men... But I guess that if she tattoued over Exodus "I am a PINK pimp" or something she could be fried. (Now that I am thinking, she should date INK)
Irina, the amazing girl with three mouths in her neck (ick)
The guy who tattoed the Omega Gang, with thousands of little arms over his arms
Sacharine, thr old lady who swept sugar in Uncanny (um, but she could trip over a colony of african ants)
darknessatnoon
05-28-2008, 09:50 PM
How do Irina's mouths kill her?
Peter F.
05-28-2008, 09:55 PM
How do Irina's mouths kill her?
3 times the chance of choking on while eating?
Leirus
05-28-2008, 10:07 PM
How do Irina's mouths kill her?
I was trying to find mutants who could not kill themselves with their powers...
(But the tripple choking seems a good theory)
DeniseXfrost
05-28-2008, 10:15 PM
I think you'd be harder pressed to name the characters who CAN'T.
Agreed..............
Peter F.
05-28-2008, 10:19 PM
I think you'd be harder pressed to name the characters who CAN'T.
Hmm how about Doug Ramsey? He wouldn't have gotten killed by using his amazing omnilingual powers. He got killed by a gun shot.
Kirayoshi
05-28-2008, 10:30 PM
Hmm how about Doug Ramsey? He wouldn't have gotten killed by using his amazing omnilingual powers. He got killed by a gun shot.The only way Doug's powers could be deadly to himself is if he ever got his hands on a copy of the Killer Joke from that old Monty Python sketch.
Leirus
05-28-2008, 10:43 PM
The only way Doug's powers could be deadly to himself is if he ever got his hands on a copy of the Killer Joke from that old Monty Python sketch.
Well, I am pretty sure using his powers in drunk Moira would also kill him
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm176/Fem_Geek/moira.jpg
Jeff-X
05-29-2008, 07:52 AM
Actually I don't think many mutants can. Magneto for example can't, unless he stabs himself, his powers don't effect himself like that it was proven by Joseph who had that restriction on his powers removed.
The ones I know who can are Unus, Gentle and Strong Guy, but only if Strong Guy has another heart attack.
Possibly Bishop, but only if he steps into enough energy that he would absorb it faster than he could release it, he's been hurt in similar situations. That wouldn't really be his powers killing him though, it would be the energy he was absorbing which would likely kill anyone else at much lower levels.
Most Omega level mutants could probably transend their physical bodies, not sure if that would count as death. Iceman could probably do this eventually, but there's always the chance he could reconstitute himself. I'm pretty sure some pyschics like Xavier can leave their bodies on the astral plane and probably opt not to return to them, but their astral form would probably continue to exist.
I don't like the idea of Nightcrawler teleporting into walls, that's almost like counting Forge because he could build a gun to shoot himself in the head... There is air in the space Nightcrawler teleports into, which doesn't effect him. I'd assume that the brimestone smoke that leads and follows his teleportations clears the air out of the way first, so it's possible he could up this aspect of his powers and use the gas to clear solids like walls out of his way when he teleports.
Leirus
05-29-2008, 10:06 AM
I don't like the idea of Nightcrawler teleporting into walls, that's almost like counting Forge because he could build a gun to shoot himself in the head... There is air in the space Nightcrawler teleports into, which doesn't effect him. I'd assume that the brimestone smoke that leads and follows his teleportations clears the air out of the way first, so it's possible he could up this aspect of his powers and use the gas to clear solids like walls out of his way when he teleports.
Would not be a surprise if, after years trying to avoid walls and such he one day teletransports into one and broke it without being damaged?
It would be like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH - er - uh?
darknessatnoon
05-29-2008, 10:08 AM
Would not be a surprise if, after years trying to avoid walls and such he one day teletransports into one and broke it without being damaged?
It would be like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH - er - uh?
That was always an interesting anxiety on his part that they could never test. If I were Professor Xavier, I would have had the Danger Room create a tub of low-density jello and have Nightcrawler try teleporting into that first.
Beast
05-29-2008, 10:15 AM
That was always an interesting anxiety on his part that they could never test. If I were Professor Xavier, I would have had the Danger Room create a tub of low-density jello and have Nightcrawler try teleporting into that first.
And then Wolverine strips naked and wrestles with him in it?
darknessatnoon
05-29-2008, 10:21 AM
And then Wolverine strips naked and wrestles with him in it?
Stop trying to evangelicize your Furry ways to the rest of us, Beast.
Beast
05-29-2008, 10:28 AM
Stop trying to evangelicize your Furry ways to the rest of us, Beast.
What the hell are you talking about? Neither of them are furry. :rolleyes:
Leirus
05-29-2008, 12:53 PM
What the hell are you talking about? Neither of them are furry. :rolleyes:
Well, Nightcrawler sure is furrę-ish as Pale raider Mrs Peel said... like blue velvet... Purrrrr
creaky
05-29-2008, 02:12 PM
I don't like the idea of Nightcrawler teleporting into walls, that's almost like counting Forge because he could build a gun to shoot himself in the head... There is air in the space Nightcrawler teleports into, which doesn't effect him. I'd assume that the brimestone smoke that leads and follows his teleportations clears the air out of the way first, so it's possible he could up this aspect of his powers and use the gas to clear solids like walls out of his way when he teleports.
In the Spiderman/Black Cat "The evil that men do" mini, a teleporter killed people by teleporting into them and, in effect, blowing them up. There were all kinds of things wrong with that story, (the teleporter actually had Kurt's bamf effect! Blasphemy!), but I think the idea is intriguing. Kurt has ended up inside a wall at one point, though, when a villain (whose name I forget) threw his navigation off. Luckily, he was with Kitty at the time and she phased them out.
But Kurt blowing stuff up by teleporting into it could be awesome. Possibly. I'd have to think about it.
And then Wolverine strips naked and wrestles with him in it?
I'll have to think about that, too. A lot.
Diablito
05-29-2008, 02:21 PM
Maggott could probably eat himself... which would make himslef stronger?
Porcelain
05-29-2008, 02:42 PM
In the Spiderman/Black Cat "The evil that men do" mini, a teleporter killed people by teleporting into them and, in effect, blowing them up. There were all kinds of things wrong with that story, (the teleporter actually had Kurt's bamf effect! Blasphemy!), but I think the idea is intriguing. Kurt has ended up inside a wall at one point, though, when a villain (whose name I forget) threw his navigation off. Luckily, he was with Kitty at the time and she phased them out.
Excalibur - it was a simulation on Muir Isle (the mindscape machine Moira developed for Proteus), engineered to pit them against their fears in a 'safe' non real environment - so technically wouldn't count.
jawbreaker
05-29-2008, 02:51 PM
Actualy a mutant can't hurt themseves with their own powers, it's also the reason why siblings or close kinship can't harm each other.
tell that to Chamber. :wink:
ProfeZZor X
05-29-2008, 04:10 PM
tell that to Chamber. :wink:
...or Penace. :wink:
greenshoes713
05-29-2008, 05:24 PM
And then Wolverine strips naked and wrestles with him in it?
that sentence is full of WIN! :biggrin: :smile: :redface:
Jeff-X
05-29-2008, 08:11 PM
tell that to Chamber. :wink:
That was because his powers went beyond his body's limits. He didn't kill himself, just burned half his face and chest off with psychic energy. He could have burned away his whole body and still existed, much like Fever Pitch kept saying he was going to eventually do, and like Fever Pitch did to himself.
But I see what you're saying, most mutants have that block that stops things like this from happening. (As we saw with Magneto and Joseph)
darknessatnoon
05-06-2010, 04:51 PM
Lois London probably. Any day now.
Monty_Cristo
05-06-2010, 04:57 PM
*Shortpack*
Pixie_Solanas
05-06-2010, 05:03 PM
Another quality Profezzzor X thread.
ProfeZZor X
05-06-2010, 05:04 PM
Would not be a surprise if, after years trying to avoid walls and such he one day teletransports into one and broke it without being damaged?
It would be like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH - er - uh?
According to the laws of physics, if he teleported into a wall, the wall would explode - seeing that thew wall can't expand. Yet if he was impaled with an object, those same laws don't apply, since his body is flexible enough to adjust to the object...
Daniel Mengsk
05-06-2010, 05:06 PM
I wonder if Iceman dies a little at the time every time that he has to pee concidering what he's made off this days. Would that count as 'suicide by the use of one's own power'?
ProfeZZor X
05-06-2010, 05:30 PM
I wonder if Iceman dies a little at the time every time that he has to pee concidering what he's made off this days. Would that count as 'suicide by the use of one's own power'?
Mike Carey explained that he can exist indefinitely as sentient vapor or a drop of water, so long as there is the most minute amount of moisture present... And fire can't kill him either. I don't think he can self inflict any damage to himself with his own powers to be honest.
Perfection/Emma 2
05-06-2010, 06:00 PM
Hey dummies, Rogue can't drain herself
Froggy
05-06-2010, 06:06 PM
cyclops can right?"
so can havok as well?
Havok83
05-06-2010, 06:43 PM
I wonder if Iceman dies a little at the time every time that he has to pee concidering what he's made off this days. Would that count as 'suicide by the use of one's own power'?
Um, no considering fluid in ones body is always replenished. He cant urinate himself away
Justin K.
05-06-2010, 07:00 PM
- Guido: Hitting himself repeatedly until he explodes.
- Nezhno: Powers up until he's gigantic. Kaboom.
- Magneto/Polaris: Reverse their own bloodflow with the iron in their blood.
JurassicParkIsAnAwesomeMovie
05-06-2010, 11:31 PM
Madrox: creating a dupe and getting shot by it. Would that count? :confused:
Magneto: magnetically grabing a piece of metal and stake it into his brain.
Beast: choking on a hairball. :confused:
drownedbyimmolation
05-07-2010, 12:24 AM
I don't think Colossus, could, his durability outmatches his strength. Toad... could try strangling himself with his own tongue but would invariably like most who try and choke themselves, pass out and lose strength before they could die. Though if he choked on his own tongue that should count right? Plus it would be way more brutal than your normal tongue swallowing. Oh... I guess along those lines, his tongue could double as a noose?
Wolverine could jump up and try and land with his body weight directly chin first into his claws. Adamantium claws lodged into Adamantium skrull, I doubt he could have the strength to pull it out and that kind of damage to his brain... i could see his healing factor turning off.
Magneto and most telekinetic's could just rip a part of themselves off. Throat, and well, the whole bubble inside thing.
Teleporters... most should be able to teleport parts of themselves. No walls necessary. Blink could do what she did to Hyperion to herself, but with bulk blueberry cheesecake instead of sand. Oh wait does that count? Or is use of outside source illegal? Maybe an arm instead?
Domino might be hard? Are we counting Namor? He could rip off an ankle wing and stab himself with it. Mercury, Darwin, and Lifeguard would have to get really inventive with their powers...
Gambit, hand, temple, charge.
Sunfire and Iceman and similar characters... sounds tricky.
Frogboy
05-07-2010, 10:01 AM
There's a much easier way for porters to kill themselves. Anyone ever hear of the ocean? It almost happened to Hub.
Any Telepath with mind control abilities could off themselves pretty easily.
Any one who flies could always ascend to the stratosphere and stop flying.
Papa Moai
05-08-2010, 03:53 AM
cyclops can right?"
so can havok as well?
They are generally speaking immune to their own (and each other's) powers. However, Warren Ellis did write a story about an alternative future where Cyclops does indeed kill himself with his optic blast, even though apparently it's not easy. According to Cyke's inner monologue puts it like this: "Killing myself with my own powers is in fact a matter of precision and strength. I couldn't have done it as a younger man. I'm almost proud of being able to commit suicide today."* So, I guess it is theoretically possible that Havok could do it as well.
*It was recently brought to my attention that in preparation to his suicide Cyclops had placed a tarp under the spot where his body would lay. I think it's a nice character detail. Clinically depressed and suicidal or not, Cyclops remains a compulsively tidy control-freak.
jeansbff
05-08-2010, 06:09 AM
Telekinetics can snap their own necks.
ProfeZZor X
05-08-2010, 07:08 PM
I'm thinking Maggot might be able to, if either of his digestive slugs ate each other, then turned on Maggot himself.
...Hell, I'd pay ten bucks for that book if it ever happened.
darknessatnoon
05-08-2010, 07:23 PM
*It was recently brought to my attention that in preparation to his suicide Cyclops had placed a tarp under the spot where his body would lay. I think it's a nice character detail. Clinically depressed and suicidal or not, Cyclops remains a compulsively tidy control-freak.
I hadn't noticed that. That's a pretty wicked satire.
zaionay
05-08-2010, 07:35 PM
i don't know if anyones mentioned this but psylocke has killed herself TWICE with her psychic knife. most recently in that god awful sisterhood arc.
mystique could morph thorns outside her skull and turn them inwards?
emma could turn to diamond break her finger off put it in a gun and shoot herself with it exploding into millions of diamond pieces.
darknessatnoon
05-08-2010, 07:51 PM
Colossus could lift a tank above his head and turn human.
Hindsight lad
05-08-2010, 08:21 PM
Hank Pym has stated that most mutants develop a genetic immunity to their own powers. There are exceptions to this, however. Firestar's creation of microwave energy threatened to make her sterile and eventually gave her breast cancer. Jetstream from the Hellions could blast like Cannonball, but he didn't have Sam's invulnerability and so blew off his legs and lower body. Strong Guy can't punch himself to death, but he can absorb enough kinetic energy that his mass grows too big for his heart to support. He very nearly died right before the Age of Apocalypse.
I don't know if Wolverine could kill himself with his claws. Given how Sabretooth was able to recover from a claw to the brain, I think Logan could probably survive the same treatment.
Warren Ellis established that Professor Xavier created fail safe measures against all of his students in the event any of them went rogue. He designed anti-psi armor to protect people from himself. He also suggested that the only surefire way to kill Wolverine was to sever his head and remove it several miles away from his body to prevent regeneration! It's all in Excalibur #100.
Hindsight lad
darknessatnoon
05-08-2010, 08:24 PM
Hank Pym has stated that most mutants develop a genetic immunity to their own powers. There are exceptions to this, however. Firestar's creation of microwave energy threatened to make her sterile and eventually gave her breast cancer.
Hank Pym also told her that he had fixed her body so that she was immune to herself, and we know what that got her. Some scientist.
Hindsight lad
05-08-2010, 09:11 PM
Hank Pym also told her that he had fixed her body so that she was immune to herself, and we know what that got her. Some scientist.
It would have worked. She took the suit off too early, against medical advice.
Hindsight lad
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