View Full Version : Upcoming Marvel project: Magneto's Rage (spoilers)
jmc247
05-27-2008, 10:34 AM
We're staying tight-lipped about exactly WHAT this project is, but if this Mike Perkins [sorry, Mike, we were so excited by the image we forgot the s!] cover doesn't tantalize your senses, leaving you thirsting for details...then you're crazy.
http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/i/content/st/3693new_storyimage1900098_full.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/Magneto1.jpg
darknessatnoon
05-27-2008, 10:38 AM
If Marvel fails (again) to include Nanny, the Robot Helper, in this storyline, they will be courting darknessatnoon's rage.
Old No.7
05-27-2008, 10:42 AM
If Mike Perkins is drawing it, I'll be buying it.
Mutant race restored and united under Magneto's banner?
Magneto regained his powers?
Or is it a flashback story? Old school Sentinel seems to indicate as much.
jmc247
05-27-2008, 10:49 AM
Or is it a flashback story? Old school Sentinel seems to indicate as much.
If I were a betting man I would say it is a Magneto Origins story. Perhaps pre-Brotherhood/post Nazi hunter, when the character had alot to fight for and his rage and desire for vengeance was at it highest. They also might use it to tie up some of the loose ends regarding the character's past.
You are right that the old school Sentinel strongly hints in that direction.
rwsmith
05-27-2008, 10:50 AM
I hope it's a flashback. Magneto has had his day as the self-proclaimed savior of mutantkind. I kind of like the current situation where he has to try and cope with having no powers. Restoring him to his former self would be uninspired and boring IMO.
I hope it's a flashback. Magneto has had his day as the self-proclaimed savior of mutantkind. I kind of like the current situation where he has to try and cope with having no powers. Restoring him to his former self would be uninspired and boring IMO.
Seconded, although I don't have much interest in further exploring Maggie's past. So, although I'm sure the art will be pretty, this looks like a pass for me.
jarrod
05-27-2008, 11:04 AM
PLZ let Carey write it!
FeminineMystique
05-27-2008, 11:05 AM
Please GOD don't let this be a flash back tale. It's about time Magneto was restored as the powerful, 3 dimensional and morally complex villain he once was. It was all but stated outright he'd get his powers back in the storyline with the Morlock's. REALLY hoping this ties into that.
Really, mutant kind needs Magneto more than ever. With evils like the O*N*E the Hellfire Club, the Skrulls, the Purifiers etc it's time to have him back. Hope he really brings some pain to those Purifier douche bags. Religiouslly fanatical terrorists are bad enough but child murdering religious fanatics? These guys are begging for Mags to teach them their place. Which is six feet under
jmc247
05-27-2008, 11:08 AM
Please GOD don't let this be a flash back tale. It's about time Magneto was restored as the powerful, 3 dimensional and morally complex villain he once was.
In order to do that one has to undo at least a significant part of M-Day, I don't think Marvel is ready to do that yet. And, this series supposedly deals with 'Magneto's Rage' not his desire to lead mutantkind which also hints at an origins story.
I would like to see Magneto back with a dream and a mission in the 616, but they have to lay the ground work for it which hasn't been done yet. That said I will certainly be buying this either if it is an origins story or not.
Old No.7
05-27-2008, 11:12 AM
Please GOD don't let this be a flash back tale. It's about time Magneto was restored as the powerful, 3 dimensional and morally complex villain he once was. It was all but stated outright he'd get his powers back in the storyline with the Morlock's. REALLY hoping this ties into that.
Really, mutant kind needs Magneto more than ever. With evils like the O*N*E the Hellfire Club, the Skrulls, the Purifiers etc it's time to have him back. Hope he really brings some pain to those Purifier douche bags. Religiouslly fanatical terrorists are bad enough but child murdering religious fanatics? These guys are begging for Mags to teach them their place. Which is six feet under
I'm pretty sure X-Force is doing a fine job eliminating Purifiers.
worstblogever
05-27-2008, 11:14 AM
Maybe "Magneto's Rage" will be to Magneto what "X-Men: Legacy" is to Xavier?
jmc247
05-27-2008, 11:14 AM
I'm pretty sure X-Force is doing a fine job eliminating Purifiers.
Yes, I don't see Marvel giving over part of Cyke's current territory to Magneto.
Maybe "Magneto's Rage" will be to Magneto what "X-Men: Legacy" is to Xavier?
That is a possibility. Pure flashback stories don't sell nearly as well as ones that are at least in part rooted in the present today universe like X-Men Legacy.
And, this series supposedly deals with 'Magneto's Rage' not his desire to lead mutantkind which also hints at an origins story.
The raised mutant fists seems to indicate unity (as used in various nationalistic posters) so it could well deal with his desire to unite mutantkind under his rule as well as the underlying rage motivating it..
jmc247
05-27-2008, 11:24 AM
The raised mutant fists seems to indicate unity (as used in various nationalistic posters) so it could well deal with his desire to unite mutantkind under his rule as well as the underlying rage motivating it..
That is entirely a decient possible reading of the cover, worstblogever's notion that his could be a story like X-Men Legacy dealing with both current and past Magneto is entirely possible. There isn't enough mutants left on Earth thanks to M-Day for him to want to unite mutantkind under him and lead them today as Carey showed quite clearly in X-Men Legacy. But, this certainly might be Magneto version of Legacy where he is looking back upon when he did have his rage and desire to unite mutantkind.
Maybe Mags went to Taco Bell and instead of getting a Diet Coke, LIKE HE ASKED FOR, he was given a regular coke, which, upon discovery of the non-aspertame-y badness, threw it in the trash and, in a rage, cursed all Taco Bells.
Or, that's what happened to me. Either way.
Swashbuckler
05-27-2008, 11:36 AM
Maybe Mags went to Taco Bell and instead of getting a Diet Coke, LIKE HE ASKED FOR, he was given a regular coke, which, upon discovery of the non-aspertame-y badness, threw it in the trash and, in a rage, cursed all Taco Bells.
Or, that's what happened to me. Either way.
You're a liar sir. Taco Beall doesn't serve Diet Coke or regular Coca-Cola Classic, only Diet Pepsi and other Pepsi products.
timbox
05-27-2008, 11:39 AM
Who did the Hellion story in Divided We Stand #1? Yost, right? I hope he writes this. His Magneto was really well writen, would love to see more of it.
You're a liar sir. Taco Beall doesn't serve Diet Coke or regular Coca-Cola Classic, only Diet Pepsi and other Pepsi products.
Even WORSE!!! I was never informed of the horrible cross-brand contamination!
Affinity
05-27-2008, 12:22 PM
I too hope it takes place in the present.
It wouldn't be as secretive if it was simply X-Men Legacy centered around Magneto, and I don't think they'd put an artist like Perkins on it for something that wouldn't be important for today's books and superhero climate.
Kid Icarus
05-27-2008, 12:24 PM
If Marvel fails (again) to include Nanny, the Robot Helper, in this storyline, they will be courting darknessatnoon's rage.
Isnt Nanny going to be in the upcoming Wolverine one shot
The one with Trance?
I thought i remembered that
darknessatnoon
05-27-2008, 12:29 PM
Isnt Nanny going to be in the upcoming Wolverine one shot
The one with Trance?
I thought i remembered that
That is the incorrect Nanny. The HUMAN one. This (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6789028&postcount=9) is the correct Nanny.
Madrox84
05-27-2008, 12:30 PM
Awesome cover!
I can't wait to find out what the project is all about... Please let it be written by Mike Carey...
Beast
05-27-2008, 12:55 PM
If Marvel fails (again) to include Nanny, the Robot Helper, in this storyline, they will be courting darknessatnoon's rage.
Nanny rocks!
http://www.marvelmasterworks.com/xmen/images/panel_xm113b.jpg
streator
05-27-2008, 12:59 PM
hmm. i think that the cover is misleading. i know that magneto was supposed to get a lot of play at some point this year or next but something about this cover doesn't strike me as being a return to his former self still.
"Like a marshmallow soaked in honey"...
That's GOT to be Claremont. Right?
"Like a marshmallow soaked in honey"...
That's GOT to be Claremont. Right?
At his best.
darknessatnoon
05-27-2008, 01:22 PM
"Like a marshmallow soaked in honey"...
That's GOT to be Claremont. Right?
It was a prescient line as, right there, CC defined his post-2000 writing style decades in advance!
Leirus
05-27-2008, 01:36 PM
Please do not let you go and let this tread become yet another endless CC discussion...
It is strange how the times have changed, and now seems that MAGNETO WAS RIGHT...
I mean, cyclops has been very magnetish lately, and nobody seems to disagree...
jmc247
05-27-2008, 01:43 PM
hmm. i think that the cover is misleading. i know that magneto was supposed to get a lot of play at some point this year or next but something about this cover doesn't strike me as being a return to his former self still.
That is why I believe it is probably an origins story.
_Jayme_
05-27-2008, 01:43 PM
LOL @ random Claremont hate.
Hopefully Carey is writing it, but you know that if he does he'll throw in some Rogue. :tongue:
darknessatnoon
05-27-2008, 01:44 PM
Please do not let you go and let this tread become yet another endless CC discussion...
It is strange how the times have changed, and now seems that MAGNETO WAS RIGHT...
I mean, cyclops has been very magnetish lately, and nobody seems to disagree...
Cyclops isn't setting off volcanoes under towns. Not quite the same attitude.
Diablito
05-27-2008, 01:48 PM
Um, I gotta hear what its about before checking out. Magneto is an okay character.
Um, I gotta hear what its about before checking out. Magneto is an okay character.
Our Most Holy Lord is much more than "okay"
Leirus
05-27-2008, 01:53 PM
Cyclops isn't setting off volcanoes under towns. Not quite the same attitude.
But he let the Russian government evacuate the inhabitants first (what was the name of the town, BTW, Varyinko or something?)
Not that extreme, but u know what I mean, Cyclops attitude appears to me to be moving from Xavier´s dream to some gray space near Magneto´s ideology
(I guess that is the only "gray space" where he will be for a long time still)
HeckBoy
05-27-2008, 02:05 PM
Honestly, I'm not all that intrigued by this. Maybe it's b/c of all the other lackluster attempts at making Magneto relevant in recent years, but that cover doesn't really do anything for me. Unless they're planning on something pretty radical within the mutant community (like mass repowering), I don't know how they could honestly make this any different from all the other times Mags has tried to gain recruits. Then again, it all depends on who's writing, so I'll be waiting until then.
jmc247
05-27-2008, 02:55 PM
Honestly, I'm not all that intrigued by this. Maybe it's b/c of all the other lackluster attempts at making Magneto relevant in recent years, but that cover doesn't really do anything for me. Unless they're planning on something pretty radical within the mutant community (like mass repowering), I don't know how they could honestly make this any different from all the other times Mags has tried to gain recruits. Then again, it all depends on who's writing, so I'll be waiting until then.
They took away the thing that made Magneto most relevant to the Marvel universe this decade (Gensoha) and then they decimated the mutant race to the point where Magneto's dreams are worthless today as he made clear in X-Men Legacy.
There isn't anything really for Magneto to do these days other then work to repower mutantkind, but Marvel isn't going to let that happen for some time. Which is why the character has been floating the past several years. That is one of the reasons I think this project will be set mostly in the past.
Affinity
05-27-2008, 02:59 PM
Nanny rocks!
http://www.marvelmasterworks.com/xmen/images/panel_xm113b.jpg
What issue is that from!? It's like the first comic I ever read.
darknessatnoon
05-27-2008, 03:02 PM
What issue is that from!? It's like the first comic I ever read.
Uncanny X-Men #113.
I can see why you came back for more. I'd be a die-hard CC fan if someone spoon-fed Wolverine and brushed Beast every issue.
jmc247
05-27-2008, 04:24 PM
Who did the Hellion story in Divided We Stand #1? Yost, right? I hope he writes this. His Magneto was really well writen, would love to see more of it.
Yost certainly can write Magneto quite well, but if this is a Magneto origins story do you think Claremont should get it?
La Fea
05-27-2008, 04:51 PM
I wonder if this is the project Daniel Acuna will be a part of.
Kid Icarus
05-27-2008, 06:11 PM
That is the incorrect Nanny. The HUMAN one. This (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6789028&postcount=9) is the correct Nanny.
dang
thats the Nanny
I was hoping for
darknessatnoon
05-27-2008, 07:02 PM
dang
thats the Nanny
I was hoping for
Since it's going to involve Orphan Maker that means we get the "other" Nanny (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Nanny_(cyborg)).
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/6/63/CyborgNanny.jpg
She's pretty entertaining herself. She once nearly baby-talked Storm to death.
KiplingKat
05-27-2008, 07:14 PM
Ooo.
While the titles frightens me a bit (Magneto is definitely motivated by more complex reasons than rage), this might be (Please God) the story I have been looking for since M-Day.
Magneto is one of the indirect causes of why mutants are where they are. At the beginning of New Avengers #20, he was beginning to acknowledge that fact. This would be a rarity in his life, taking the blame rather than blaming humans or blaming fate for his choices. In acknowledging that fact, Magneto would be forced to look over the wreckage of his life and figure out how he got there. The choices he made that led him and his family to M-Day.
This could be the self examination issue in which Magneto goes over his past, comes to terms with it, takes some responsibility for his choices, and moves forward in a new direction.
Not Xavier's direction, he's been there, done that and as many people on this thread have pointed out: Magneto has been proven right, repeatedly. But After M-Day, in which the character was stripped down emotionally further than he has ever been since the night Anya died, he is all set up to find an new tack on the mutant issue.
That way you have an origins story that is dynamic and relevant to what is happening in Marvel now.
Josef F.
05-27-2008, 07:39 PM
I have insider knowledge.
This is what the book is about:
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/darknessatnoon/magneto2.jpg
Magneto's Weight struggle, and his RAGE at his inability to maintain washboard abs like Xavier
lockerogue
05-27-2008, 07:40 PM
I probably won't get this. Not that much of Mags fan.
lockerogue
05-27-2008, 07:41 PM
I have insider knowledge.
This is what the book is about:
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/darknessatnoon/magneto2.jpg
Magneto's Weight struggle, and his RAGE at his inability to maintain washboard abs like Xavier
Now I would so buy that.
KiplingKat
05-27-2008, 08:07 PM
Now I would so buy that.
You guys realize the art in that particular issue (New Mutants Vol. 1 #51) is so bad, they did not put the artists name in the credits of the issue.
He doesn't seem to have much trouble maintaining those abs here:
http://www.magnetowasright.com/pages/gallery.php?album=Out%20of%20Costume/&pic=X-Men%20Vol.%202%201%20-%203.jpg
Or here for that matter...
http://www.magnetowasright.com/pages/gallery.php?album=Really%20Out%20of%20Costume/&pic=New%20Mutants%20Vol.%201%2039.jpg
lockerogue
05-27-2008, 08:09 PM
You guys realize the art in that particular issue (New Mutants Vol. 1 #51) is so bad, they did not put the artists name in the credits of the issue.
We well I realize that. But its funny to see a phat Mags. :biggrin:
darknessatnoon
05-27-2008, 08:12 PM
You guys realize the art in that particular issue (New Mutants Vol. 1 #51) is so bad, they did not put the artists name in the credits of the issue.
He doesn't seem to have much trouble maintaining those abs here:
http://www.magnetowasright.com/pages/gallery.php?album=Out%20of%20Costume/&pic=X-Men%20Vol.%202%201%20-%203.jpg
Or here for that matter...
http://www.magnetowasright.com/pages/gallery.php?album=Really%20Out%20of%20Costume/&pic=New%20Mutants%20Vol.%201%2039.jpg
It upsets me that there is a gallery of naked/shirtless Magneto pics.
Or here for that matter...
http://www.magnetowasright.com/pages/gallery.php?album=Really%20Out%20of%20Costume/&pic=New%20Mutants%20Vol.%201%2039.jpg
"By heaven! It can't be!"
God, I just can't get enough of the lunacy!
lockerogue
05-27-2008, 08:14 PM
You guys realize the art in that particular issue (New Mutants Vol. 1 #51) is so bad, they did not put the artists name in the credits of the issue.
He doesn't seem to have much trouble maintaining those abs here:
http://www.magnetowasright.com/pages/gallery.php?album=Out%20of%20Costume/&pic=X-Men%20Vol.%202%201%20-%203.jpg
Or here for that matter...
http://www.magnetowasright.com/pages/gallery.php?album=Really%20Out%20of%20Costume/&pic=New%20Mutants%20Vol.%201%2039.jpg
I just read that issue about 8 hours ago. And I thought to myself "You know Mags needs to put the razor down. Its become an addiction."
KiplingKat
05-27-2008, 08:15 PM
It upsets me that there is a gallery of naked/shirtless Magneto pics.
Deal. :biggrin:
_Jayme_
05-27-2008, 08:28 PM
It upsets me that there is a gallery of naked/shirtless Magneto pics.
*waits for Ian McKellen shirtless pics*
Mmm..yum.
KiplingKat
05-27-2008, 08:33 PM
[QUOTE=_Jayme_;6924485]*waits for Ian McKellen shirtless pics*
Mmm..yum.[/QUOTE
Hrm. Will this do?
http://www.killermovies.com/l/lotrthereturnoftheking/articles/2955.html
podmark
05-27-2008, 10:10 PM
Looks interesting.
I wonder who the hands in the background belong to? Green one looks a bit like Anole.
La Fea
05-27-2008, 10:13 PM
Looks interesting.
I wonder who the hands in the background belong to? Green one looks a bit like Anole.
LOL! And Callisto's tentacle!
Polaris Rocks
05-28-2008, 09:57 AM
This looks like it has potental. I would love a Magneto story dealing with his past and present.
Congo Jack
05-28-2008, 12:59 PM
Not interested in this if it's set in the past. I'm done with X-Men after #500, the NO MORE MUTANTS angle really defeats the purpose of the book. Unless this is about Magneto coming back and somehow resparking the mutant gene and undoing the effects of M-Day.
I'm thinking if this is set in the past they probably would have given it the X-Men Origins banner.
_Jayme_
05-28-2008, 01:02 PM
I'd say it will be a bit of both myself. Like the Quicksilver story recently..looking back on his past and what he's done but at the same time moving forward from it..
That's what I think (and hope) anyways.
FeminineMystique
05-29-2008, 11:34 AM
I'm pretty sure X-Force is doing a fine job eliminating Purifiers.
Their doing okay with the Wolverine/X 23 slaughter fests but pure grade-A SCUM like the Purifiers call for a little Genocide-A-Go-Go courtesey of the REAL saviour of Mutantkind. Seriously, how awesome would it be to se Mags tear those pitiful homo sapien punks apart?
darknessatnoon
05-29-2008, 11:36 AM
Their doing okay with the Wolverine/X 23 slaughter fests but pure grade-A SCUM like the Purifiers call for a little Genocide-A-Go-Go courtesey of the REAL saviour of Mutantkind. Seriously, how awesome would it be to se Mags tear those pitiful homo sapien punks apart?
Yeah, nothing like seeing an old rolly-polly guy in a purple sweater massacring people.
jmc247
05-30-2008, 11:38 AM
What the comic is about.
Greg Pak talked about "Magneto: Testament," an origin story about Magneto's childhood during the Holocaust. The first issue ships in September.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16601
streator
05-30-2008, 11:56 AM
What the comic is about.
i'm probably going to pass, then.
darknessatnoon
05-30-2008, 11:58 AM
They shouldn't waste Greg Pak's considerable talents on Magneto.
jmc247
05-30-2008, 12:06 PM
i'm probably going to pass, then.
It is clearly supposed to be a movie tie in, but a comic just about Magneto's time in the Holocaust isn't going to get many people to read it.
A series dealing with various times of Magneto's life including today would get decient readership and I would certainly pick it up, this though might not.
Scavenger
05-30-2008, 12:07 PM
If Marvel fails (again) to include Nanny, the Robot Helper, in this storyline, they will be courting darknessatnoon's rage.
Tsk..looks like someone didn't read the HOM director's cut deluxe hard cover, where the cut seen was put back in.
Wanda: "No More Mutants....or Nannys".
I mean, you think Supernanny is a problem in our world, imagine her in one where she really is super!
jmc247
05-30-2008, 12:36 PM
More info about the series
GP: Magneto: Testament follows a Jewish boy and his family through Germany and Poland from 1935 to 1945 as they struggle to survive the Nazi rise to power and Hitler's Final Solution.
NRAMA: So is this all about Magneto's family? And will we see any other people with a relationship to Magneto?
GP: The book is all about our young hero and his family. His father in particular plays a huge role -- as our story begins, he's a German Jewish veteran of World War I who believes against all evidence that the nation that produced Beethoven and Mendelssohn will come to its senses.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=158611
Monty_Cristo
05-30-2008, 04:04 PM
Yeah, nothing like seeing an old rolly-polly guy in a purple sweater massacring people.
he doesn't look all that rolly-polly to me.
http://image.comicvine.com:8000/item/2000/1441/198630-magneto_400.jpg
http://image.comicvine.com:8000/item/2000/1441/131115-magneto_400.jpg
jmc247
05-30-2008, 06:33 PM
Got that from the X-Fan kids...
I did post the newsarama article earlier
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=158611
HepOne
05-30-2008, 06:35 PM
What the comic is about.
Are we sure that these aren't two different comics? This Testament comic will be put under the "Marvel Knights" banner
The series, which falls under the Marvel Knights imprint, will be penciled by Carmine Di Giandomenico, the Italian artist whose work was recently seen in Daredevil: Battlin' Jack Murdock. The series will also feature Marko Djurdjevic on covers and Matt Hollingsworth as colorist.
No Mike Perkins covers mentioned. The Testament comic should be good though, I really enjoyed "Battling Jack Murdock"
jmc247
05-30-2008, 06:41 PM
Are we sure that these aren't two different comics?
We aren't sure they are two seperate comics, I suspect they are the same and Marvel is simply marketing the cover like it is a more modern story, because they know stories that are only flashback stories don't tend to sell well. But, no I don't know for sure.
Monty_Cristo
05-30-2008, 07:56 PM
I checked X-Fan first since they sent me an email. But the Magneto's Rage has MUCH different art than Testament.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=cons/wwphil2008/mondomarvel/Magneto-Young.jpg And where is Magneto's trademark silver hair?
far as i know Magneto wasn't born with silver hair. it just seems that way because he had white hair when Mutant Alpha de-aged him. thing is that it was actually the holocaust camp trauma that made his hair shock white. that's why his hair stayed that way. but it didn't necessarily start out that way. or maybe they are just trying to keep it in line with the movie-version.
This is about young Magneto and Madga, right? Because they wouldn't DARE try to include his parents or anything like that since they were all lined up and killed in the camps, RIGHT? There's concern about that at other intervals.
i don't get it. what am i missing? his dad was mentioned. he's supposed to have an older sister as well.
KiplingKat
06-01-2008, 01:05 PM
Doesn't matter if they are mentioned..as long as they aren't alive since they died in the camps and not after Magneto escaped with Magda.
Magneto's family did not die in the camps. They were killed by Einsatzgruppen, roving bands of SS troops delegated the kill communists, gypsies, and Jewish community leaders in the wake of the German troops invading Poland. Magnus family was among of a large group of people lined up against a mass grave and shot. Magnus escaped because his nascent powers deflected the bullets enough for him to survive. He was thrown in the pit with his family, but dug his way back out. The Nazi then sent him to Auschwitz which at the time was a POW camp. (New Mutants #49)
However, this story looks at though it may touch on the truly unexplored part of Magneto past: his childhood before the camps.
Rivka
06-01-2008, 10:36 PM
The "Magneto's Rage" cover :
I don't know what to think. It looks like the mad Magneto in his worst days, rage or not. Whatever his motives, I certainly hope that Marvel is not using "rage" as an excuse to tell the same old story: Magneto declares war on the world, Magneto attacks the X-Men, the X-Men attack Magneto and defeat him, and Wolverine guts him again.
I hope this cover, this project, isn't anything like the same old crap again. I guess it depends on what Magneto is enraged about. And, whether or not the writer(s) present Magneto asthe whole and complex character that he is.
Like I said, it doesn't matter what the rage is, or why it is, but what is the result. If it's just another Magneto goes nuts and shouts "I'm going to conquer the world again," story, I will be bitterly disappointed in Marvel. They had the opportunity to do something different with this character. By a happy series of events, a series of writers had gotten Magneto to a point (EXCALIBUR, HOUSE OF M, SON OF M, LEGACY) where he can reflect on all that he has done, what choices he's presented with, what new decisions he can make, and what he can do in the future that is different from what he's done in the past that has led to so many failures.
And while I like the classic red and purple, I was hoping to see the red and black costume again.
Perkins is a great artist. Is this really Magneto on the cover? The tendons in the arms look so funky.
To be fair, Marvel in the past few years, have given us some gnarly Magneto covers with demonic gleaming eyes and animal grimaces (the kind Bob Harras liked so well in the 1990s), BUT the interiors, and the story, were nothing like the cover suggested. For example NEW AVENGERS #20.
I have no idea what a "Magneto's Rage" will actually be, or be about.
I waited in vain for his "rage" after Operation:Zero Tolerance, but all we got was a nutty perverted Magneto who would rather spy on Rogue and Gambit, record himself on tape, sit in a secret fortress and chat with robots, while he plotted to conquer the world. (But first take down the X-Men "brick by brick" because embarrassing Gambit and Rogue and beating up Joseph is so effective in saving mutant-kind.) (That was the awful UNCANNY #350, for those who don't know.)
Back in the late 1990s, events in the Marvel Universe had finally proven that Magneto was right all along (with Bastion getting the leaders of the world to cheerfully cooperate with him in his mutant eradication program), but Mr. Harras couldn't let Magneto confront Bastion or do anything when mutants were being sent to gas chambers. (This is not speculation; writer Scott Lobdell has written about how he was going to end O:ZT with Magneto finally appearing to tear Bastion apart, while affirming his commitment to the mutant cause, and remembering his Holocaust experiences. Bob Harras at first agreed, but then pulled the plug on the last issue and Magneto's role at the last moment.)
Anyway, I digress. I've been online for almost 14 years, and I've been through so many disappointments and let-downs from Marvel where Magneto is concerned. I was hoping against hope that this time, THIS TIME, things would be different. But I'm so cynical now.
At least when he was skulking around "pretending" to have lost his powers (a story-line that I do not like at all) in Brubaker's UNCANNY #491(I think that's the issue, I can never remember which one exactly), at least he still wasn't floating around in that helmet ranting about conquering the world. A distinct improvement, something different, not exactly what I wanted but at least something different from the same old crap.
So, I can only hope this "Magneto's Rage" isn't the same old stuff, and is a kind of misdirection for a story that is far more sophisticated and fair to the Magster than what that cover would suggest.
Sorry again for being so pessimistic and cynical.
Rivka
06-01-2008, 10:44 PM
Magneto's family did not die in the camps. They were killed by Einsatzgruppen, roving bands of SS troops delegated the kill communists, gypsies, and Jewish community leaders in the wake of the German troops invading Poland. Magnus family was among of a large group of people lined up against a mass grave and shot. Magnus escaped because his nascent powers deflected the bullets enough for him to survive. He was thrown in the pit with his family, but dug his way back out. The Nazi then sent him to Auschwitz which at the time was a POW camp. (New Mutants #49)
However, this story looks at though it may touch on the truly unexplored part of Magneto past: his childhood before the camps.
What she said.
Magneto:Testament will cover 1935 through 1945, and should touch on all of this. One hopes accurately.
Many articles about Magneto and references in the comics tend to say his "family" perished "in the camps." But Magneto's family was killed by machine-gun fire and they were buried in a mass grave. I have tried to reconcile these in-continuity references by interpreting Magneto's "family" that arrived at Auschwitz as being his extended family. So, when you read him, or another character, or a narrator, saying, "My family died at Auschwitz" he's referring to his family other than his immediate nuclear family, that died in either Poland or in the killing fields of the Baltic countries, in 1941. Since Magneto does reference his "entire" family in UNCANNY #150 being wiped out by the Nazis, and says no one is left (as far as he knows), it isn't a stretch to think that he saw members of his family enter the changing rooms of Auschwitz, and possibly he had to lie to them and lock them in the gas chamber and burn their bodies in the ovens, as well.
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