Who do you think will lead the Summers Rebellion?

[worstblogever]

The upcoming X-Factor: Layla Miller One-Shot is going to show us more of the timeline of Bishop's alternate future, and we're going to learn a bit more about the players in the Summers Rebellion, an event that supposedly will show both the humans and mutants of that timeline uniting against the threat of the Sentinels, who will begin working against both equally.

So, the question is, who is the mysterious "Summers" who leads this Rebellion?

*Scott Summers- Cyclops

*Alex Summers- Havok

*Gabriel Summers- Vulcan

*Jean Grey-Summers - Phoenix (back from the dead, again?)

*Nathan Dayspring Summers- Cable

*Rachel Summers- Marvel Girl II/Phoenix

*The mutant Messiah, full grown and adopting the surname Summers from her adopted father, Cable?

*Emma Frost-Summers (she could end up marrying Scott at some point between now and then...)

*Another kid that one of the above characters has?

*Or someone random who calls themself Summers?

[timbox]

PAD also made a point to mention that it is called the "Summers Rebellion" for a reason, so it can't be just a coincidence.

My guess is that is will be directly related to Scott.

I would like to see it be related to Cable or the baby, but I would think it would be the "Dayspring Rebellion" if that were the case.

[worstblogever]

PAD also made a point to mention that it is called the "Summers Rebellion" for a reason, so it can't be just a coincidence.

My guess is that is will be directly related to Scott.

I would like to see it be related to Cable or the baby, but I would think it would be the "Dayspring Rebellion" if that were the case.

Yeah, I went with Havok, since PAD used to write him back in the day (and one of the best times to enjoy reading Havok, really...)

[rwsmith]

If it's Cable (along with the baby) I would think that it would take place in his ongoing instead of a one-shot featuring Layla Miller...unless...

...it also takes place in his ongoing and, in fact, that is why he is in that particular future timeline in the first place. Perhaps the child is the key to the Summers rebellion somehow and he is there to ensure that it happens? That could be kind of cool.

Regardless, we've been promised that all will be made clear as to why Nathan is in that particular future timeline. Supposedly it is all part of some grand plan that he has. Perhaps the Summers rebellion plays a role in that plan?

[Mr.EZ]

I really hope it's not a new offspring of Cyclops. We have enough of those running around.

[Askani's Flame]

I'm going with one of these four (in this order):

New character with the surname of Summers (related to Scott and Emma) - has the genes to lead and motivate so why not. Give a newbie a shot.

Cable - Tries to undo what the baby did.

Rachel. She's lead major rebellions in the past (well future really as Mother Askani), so being the younger of the current Summers' she could still be kickin to do it.

Havok. Somehow the man is still kicking and stirring up the masses in ways that he can't seem to do now.

Can't be the Messiah Baby since it caused the "5 Minute War" and led to the concentration camps in the first place. I highly doubt any of the remaining mutants would rally behind her.

[worstblogever]

Can't be the Messiah Baby since it caused the "5 Minute War" and led to the concentration camps in the first place. I highly doubt any of the remaining mutants would rally behind her.

And considering the "Summers" ends the persecution of mutants... you'd think if it was the Messiah Baby who ends up doing that, Bishop wouldn't want to put a bullet in its bonnet.

[HellFrost]

I think it will be one of three characters myself.

Rachel-Because they need something to do with her and make her more important.

Cyclops- I personally think that he is the best choice because his leadership skills are excellent (sometimes being referred to as a better tactical leader than Captain A.). I can see him being the one to unite humans and mutants alike since he's like the embodiment of Xaviers Dream.

Havok- I'm willing to accept Alex, because I think it's time he stepped up to the plate and showed what he can really do. He's a good leader and is underrated for the amount of power he has, and he's been in Scott's shadow since his inception. I think it's time that this Summers showed everyone what he can do.

[darknessatnoon]

The leader shall be Layla. There might be a "Summers" as a figurehead, but we all know who the real power and decision-maker behind the rebellion will be.

[worstblogever]

The leader shall be Layla. There might be a "Summers" as a figurehead, but we all know who the real power and decision-maker behind the rebellion will be.

You really do think outside the box. Nice theory. :redface:

[Flâneur]

Layla will use her 'stuff' to nudge Rachel into being her wise askani self and throw off the CC shackles. She will then lead the rebellion and send Layla back to Jamie. Tangerine will co-star.

[Come To Deathstrike]

I think we all Know that R'chel and Sauron will wed and Lead it Together.

R'chel Lykos-Summers will lead the rebellion With Back up from love Rival Korvus.

I have no idea where you people get your whacked out theories about "Scott" and "Alex" leading anything.
And why is Hepzibah not an option. She's a Summers kindof. :frown:

[CyberHubbs]

Where's Adam X, The X-TREME?!

He's going to lead the rebellion, 'cause it's time a real Summers took over and made the bad guys buuuuuuuuuurn.

[Omega Alpha]

It's not Summers Rebellion, it's Summer's Rebellion. It will begin because, while mutants can stand almost anything, the high temperatures were unbearable.

[JonniRandom]

I chose Emma, she has the guts to, and I can imagine her taking Scott's name permanently when he dies. Also, she would be in her diamond form, to avoid constant aging.

[jarrod]

Layla Madrox Miller Summers! <3 <3

[jarrod]

Layla will use her 'stuff' to nudge Rachel into being her wise askani self and throw off the CC shackles. She will then lead the rebellion and send Layla back to Jamie. Tangerine will co-star.
*heart palpitations*

[HeckBoy]

I picked the "random guy name Summers," but then I found that new interview on Newsarama w/ PAD. Now, I think I'm gonna change my answer. Since I think it's still too early to reveal who the Messiah Baby is (didn't they say it would take awhile? not to mention, it would seem weird for the Baby to both have caused the mutants to be put in camps and then unite them w/ the humans and still have Bishop mad at her), I will have to say it's a Summers offspring. No idea whose, just that it'll be connected to an actual Summers.

[La Fea]

OMG! It should so be Emma! Or the Messiah baby.

[kate-pryde]

I put Rachel, only because I want to see her live up to her Mother Askani potential as a leader, but isn't the Summers Rebellion over 80 years in the future? Nearly everyone would be dead or incredibly old.

Rachel, Cable and the Messiah Baby can time travel, so they could travel there and cause it, but originally it was probably intended to be some random Summers decedent.

[MartinRedmond]

I chose Emma, she has the guts to, and I can imagine her taking Scott's name permanently when he dies. Also, she would be in her diamond form, to avoid constant aging.

I vote for this.

[Siddon]

Psylocke finally bags herself Scott.

kthx90s

[Pro]

It'll be a time displaced younger Cable who then travels with Layla to the present where he joins X-force.

[rwsmith]

I could actually get behind that. But what happens to old Cable? Does he sacrifice himself heroically to save the baby and his younger self?

[Old No.7]

In the land of the blind the one eye'd man is King!!!!!!!!!!

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1459/32475-cyclops_400.jpg

[rwsmith]

The only problem with that is the fact that Cyclops would be like 100 years old by this time period. I suppose it's possible that a 100-year old man who has no mutant healing factor could lead the Summers rebellion, but not likely (at least IMO).

[Old No.7]

The only problem with that is the fact that Cyclops would be like 100 years old by this time period. I suppose it's possible that a 100-year old man who has no mutant healing factor could lead the Summers rebellion, but not likely (at least IMO).

Oh I know it's not him, I just wanted to say that and post that picture.

It's more than likely an offspring, or I'd even place money on Vulcan.

[darknessatnoon]

Oh I know it's not him, I just wanted to say that and post that picture.

It's more than likely an offspring, or I'd even place money on Vulcan.

Vulcan? lol.

I prefer the Hepzibah guess.

[Old No.7]

Vulcan? lol.

I prefer the Hepzibah guess.

I hope it's Jean Grey actually.

[darknessatnoon]

I hope it's Jean Grey actually.

I wouldn't mind that if we at least got a few panels with Jean Grey in a concentration camp.

[Old No.7]

I wouldn't mind that if we at least got a few panels with Jean Grey in a concentration camp.

Trying to use Sage's head as a radio or some other device that might help them escape. Maybe a toilet bowl if all else fails.

[Jake V]

I hope it's Jean Grey actually.

Me too. Just so she can die at the end of it.

[jarrod]

Maybe a toilet bowl if all else fails.
It'll be just like the HFC days. Yum!

[Leirus]

It is going to be, clearly, Buffy Summers...

The Summers Rebellion is the one who endes the camps, isnt it?

Buffff, If PAD is going to try and make sense of all we know about the Bishop timeline, I wish him luck...

I am going with the messiah Child. In one future she was a goodie, and with the Summers Rebellion she freed the camps

In other she bas a baddie, and burnt out the world trying to do the same with the six minutes war.

The only problem with this is that the si minutes war started the camps, I think....

Grorg

[Diablito]

Where's Adam X, The X-TREME?!

He's going to lead the rebellion, 'cause it's time a real Summers took over and made the bad guys buuuuuuuuuurn.

THATS WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY!


So I guess I'll stick with Cyclops.

[Monty_Cristo]

Hancock will lead it.

[Flinkman]

i voted Emma Frost-Summers just to be different :evilsmile:

[Nathan]

The only problem with that is the fact that Cyclops would be like 100 years old by this time period. I suppose it's possible that a 100-year old man who has no mutant healing factor could lead the Summers rebellion, but not likely (at least IMO).

Gambit is The Witness an hes a few Hundred years old so Cyclops maybe still alive , or it could be the kid of Alex and Lorna he could be the new Magneto hmmm Eric Summers lol

[jmc247]

The only problem with that is the fact that Cyclops would be like 100 years old by this time period. I suppose it's possible that a 100-year old man who has no mutant healing factor could lead the Summers rebellion, but not likely (at least IMO).

Using tech and new forms of medicine in an alternate timeline both Magneto, Polaris, and a number of X-Men lived to see 2099. Remember Marvel tech and medicine is light years ahead of what we have today on Earth. Mags was supposed to be about 180 years old in the pic below.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/AUPolaris1.jpg

[Naela]

Personally I've taken a liking to the idea the Summers name becoming so legendary that someone would adopt it in order lead a rebellion.

Also if this Summers does turn out to be Cyclops, I think particular posters would actually be onto something about him becoming the new Wolverine considering the rest of the August solicits.

[La Fea]

If its X-Man or anyone named X-Treme I will protest.

[The Black Guardian]

Adam X doesn't count, because he's not a Summers. He's a Neramani.

It's gotta be a Summers brat, probably even one we haven't met yet.

[sneggz]

is gonna be the kid of havok and polaris. this kid will far surpass his father in abilities as a leader

[Calcufactor]

I like the time-displaced younger Cable theory. He looked significantly younger when he was "The Traveler" than when he came to the present, and he had to do something in the time in between.

[Calcufactor]

Oops, double post.

[Kage Kisaragi]

And considering the "Summers" ends the persecution of mutants... you'd think if it was the Messiah Baby who ends up doing that, Bishop wouldn't want to put a bullet in its bonnet.

Considering how they wrote Bishop during MC, and in the Cable on going, I wouldn't be surprised if he did want to still put a bullet in its head simply because he doesn't want mutants to exist anymore. He was kind of direct when he said if he had a choice between not being born and being born a mutant all on the count of whatever that baby does he'd rather not be born. Wasn't his parents killed because they gave birth to a mutant or something?

[Gaveedra 6]

Wolverine.
Marvel editorial is dying to make him a Summers, I bet. They just have to figure out a way.
Maybe some unlocked memory? :tongue:

[Old No.7]

is gonna be the kid of havok and polaris. this kid will far surpass his father in abilities as a leader

So he'll be able to lead himself outta a paper bag.

[Pro]

Wasn't his parents killed because they gave birth to a mutant or something?

They were killed as a result of the six minute war which is why he hates the baby so much. However .. since his grandfather (Gateway) apparently was snuffed by the Marauders in Blinded by the Light before the baby was born it seems his quest to save his parents is kinda futile. I mean what other goal is driving him? Save mutantkind? By killing the baby that supposedly will help them recover from Decimation?

[darknessatnoon]

They were killed as a result of the six minute war which is why he hates the baby so much. However .. since his grandfather (Gateway) apparently was snuffed by the Marauders in Blinded by the Light before the baby was born it seems his quest to save his parents is kinda futile. I mean what other goal is driving him? Save mutantkind? By killing the baby that supposedly will help them recover from Decimation?

So what if Gateway did or didn't die? What is he, 70? I'm sure he already dropped the seed for Bishop's mom or dad.

[Red Lotus]

PAD also made a point to mention that it is called the "Summers Rebellion" for a reason, so it can't be just a coincidence.

My guess is that is will be directly related to Scott.

I would like to see it be related to Cable or the baby, but I would think it would be the "Dayspring Rebellion" if that were the case.

It could be the baby, maybe her name is summer.

[ExodusCloak]

So what if Gateway did or didn't die? What is he, 70? I'm sure he already dropped the seed for Bishop's mom or dad.

Wasn't there something about that in Gen X. Monet?

[lockerogue]

I'd say some bimbo named Summer will lead the rebellion. How will it happen? I don't know.

[Polaris Rocks]

So he'll be able to lead himself outta a paper bag.

You don't think much of Havok as a leader do you?

[Askani's Flame]

You don't think much of Havok as a leader do you?

Unfortunately, I don't think Havok thinks much of himself as a leader . . . .

[darknessatnoon]

Wasn't there something about that in Gen X. Monet?

I am not sure. I heard there were hints she was a relation. Also they hinted at the waitress over in Harry's Hideaway.

[Leirus]

I am not sure. I heard there were hints she was a relation. Also they hinted at the waitress over in Harry's Hideaway.

The waitress over in Harry´s Hideaway ended up being fatale, planted there by dark beast to have an eye over the X-Men... Although when she first appeared Dark Beast had been not imagined yet (But then again we could say the same about the morlocks, couldnt we?)

When Bishop was dizzy because he had just expelled the beloved Vincent, he saw M and though she was his mother. Also the unknow ex-x-man with the white hair may have been her (or Storm)

[Polaris Rocks]

Unfortunately, I don't think Havok thinks much of himself as a leader . . . .

That is true.

[Leirus]

That is true.

Bah, Polaris has more leadership in the tip of her fingers that Havock in his whole body (if you do not take into account his radioactive nipples, of course)

But to make it clear, the Six minutes war put the mutants in the camps and the Summers Rebellion let them out isnt it? Then if the Messiah child started the war, she can not be also "The Summers". So that leave us witha timetraveler Cable or a Summer descendent... or a surprise

[Old No.7]

You don't think much of Havok as a leader do you?

Unfortunately, I don't think Havok thinks much of himself as a leader . . . .

That is true.

I was gonna say what Askani said.

[jmc247]

Bah, Polaris has more leadership in the tip of her fingers that Havock in his whole body (if you do not take into account his radioactive nipples, of course)


I agree with that, Havok sucks as a leader. Unless you have confidence in yourself no one will have confidence in you.

[jarrod]

Adam X doesn't count, because he's not a Summers. He's a Neramani.
Didn't Gabriel's origin sort of retcon that?

[worstblogever]

Didn't Gabriel's origin sort of retcon that?

Gabriel was cut outta Katherine by the Shi'ar, and his natural father is Corsair.

Adam-X was supposedly born when D'Ken kept Katherine Summers alive, and at some point raped her, and fathered Adam-X to see what a hybrid of humans and Shi'ar would be like, or something. Ask Fabian Nicienza. He knows what he wanted him to be... but it was supposed to be something like that.

[HotWire]

Rachel is the chosen

[Cerridwen]

rachel.....

[Alex A Sanchez]

Yeah, I went with Havok, since PAD used to write him back in the day (and one of the best times to enjoy reading Havok, really...)

Ditto.

Why was a future version of Lorna who married Alex not an option? I mean, if you are going to put Emma in the poll.

[jmc247]

Ditto.

Why was a future version of Lorna who married Alex not an option? I mean, if you are going to put Emma in the poll.

Don't be silly, from what I have been told by a number of people here Lorna 'isn't a leader' and couldn't lead a largescale uprising without Magneto advising her. :rolleyes:

[darknessatnoon]

Ditto.

Why was a future version of Lorna who married Alex not an option? I mean, if you are going to put Emma in the poll.

He'll never marry her.

[HotWire]

After necrom rachel travel back to the future to stop the sentinel, i think this is before Madrox,layla. Maybe bishop has born in this timeline, I dont think layla could lead a revolution as "Che Guevara", i dont know ( i`m not a x-factor fan)
maybe they find the way to go back (find an old apocalypse time-machine or forge or find mutant with time travel ability). but i`m jealous.
All new character of the x-univers grow up and had panel (layla,x-23,the hellions) but rachel is the oposite, Ihave a few theories that i want ot share
Why rachel summers is grey
1 CC want to start from zero with rach making clumsy because there are too many x-heroes and then need the "joke"

[jarrod]

Gabriel was cut outta Katherine by the Shi'ar, and his natural father is Corsair.

Adam-X was supposedly born when D'Ken kept Katherine Summers alive, and at some point raped her, and fathered Adam-X to see what a hybrid of humans and Shi'ar would be like, or something. Ask Fabian Nicienza. He knows what he wanted him to be... but it was supposed to be something like that.
Oh... I always thought Adam was born before D'ken gutted Kate, as a product of rape (while Corsair was on the slave world).

Ew... this origin's even worse. :/

[Askani's Flame]

After necrom rachel travel back to the future to stop the sentinel, i think this is before Madrox,layla. Maybe bishop has born in this timeline, I dont think layla could lead a revolution as "Che Guevara", i dont know ( i`m not a x-factor fan)
maybe they find the way to go back (find an old apocalypse time-machine or forge or find mutant with time travel ability). but i`m jealous.
All new character of the x-univers grow up and had panel (layla,x-23,the hellions) but rachel is the oposite, Ihave a few theories that i want ot share
Why rachel summers is grey
1 CC want to start from zero with rach making clumsy because there are too many x-heroes and then need the "joke"

After Rachel defeated Necrom and was healed by the Phoenix Force, she brought Excalibur back to her alternate future (Marvel 815) and ended the Sentinel rule of North America. This is a completely different reality than the one Bishop was born in. Bishop is from one of two possible futures to Marvel 616, specifically the one where the baby causes the war and the concentration camps for mutants.

Why Rachel is a "Grey" now is a different story and can be found in some of the other threads.

[Phil Hunn]

It'll be the Messiah baby.

The irony of her leading the rebellion that freed Bishop from the Sentinels' concentration camps, when he'd spent ages trying to kill her, would just be too good to pass up.

Plus, she's got to do something to prove her worth other than pooping her nappy...

[worstblogever]

Oh... I always thought Adam was born before D'ken gutted Kate, as a product of rape (while Corsair was on the slave world).

Ew... this origin's even worse. :/

Again, don't quote me on it... I'm not positive that's how it went, but I think I saw an interview that had it pegged that way.

[Come To Deathstrike]

The Answer is Hepzibah.
All of other Summerses are Long Dead.
Only Hepzibah lived.
None of the other Starjammers are involved though.
Only Hepzibah.

[Alex A Sanchez]

He'll never marry her.

Well then who's he gonna marry? Nurse Annie?

I think it is more likely that Alex will marry Lorna than Scott marrying Emma.

[Pro]

The irony of her leading the rebellion that freed Bishop from the Sentinels' concentration camps, when he'd spent ages trying to kill her, would just be too good to pass up.

Humanity:"Oh look it's the kid that killed a million humans in 6 minutes. Let's work with her to free mutantkind from the camps".

Doesn't sound very likely ..