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OptimusPrime114
05-26-2008, 07:04 PM
By definiton, should Kate Bosworth be replaced for Man of Steel, in the same manner they replaced Katie Holmes and Hired Maggie Gyllenhaal for "The Dark Knight"?

My pick: J. Love Hewitt

BoosterBronze
05-26-2008, 08:22 PM
By definiton, should Kate Bosworth be replaced for Man of Steel, in the same manner they replaced Katie Holmes and Hired Maggie Gyllenhaal for "The Dark Knight"?

My pick: J. Love Hewitt

I'd rather they just remove Lois as the love interest than recast, although Hewitt, or frankly IMHO anyone other than Bosworth would be an improvemnet.

I want to see Lori Lemaris!

Ontir
05-27-2008, 12:24 AM
No. Particularly not with Hewitt.

saintsaucey
05-27-2008, 04:40 AM
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lisa sheridan 34

Brandon Routh 29 http://www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/Brandon_Routh_Biography.jpg

Kate Bosworth 25

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WorstThingUS
05-27-2008, 08:47 AM
By definiton, should Kate Bosworth be replaced for Man of Steel, in the same manner they replaced Katie Holmes and Hired Maggie Gyllenhaal for "The Dark Knight"?

My pick: J. Love Hewitt

Ugh. You must really hate Superman. Or love Ghost Whisperer. Or both.

rwe1138
05-27-2008, 09:36 AM
I love Love, but she's not right for Lois.

PatrickG
05-27-2008, 10:08 AM
Zooey Deschanel

http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/z/zooey_deschanel/thumbnails/tn2_zooey_deschanel-4.jpg

She always reminded me of Margot Kidder but a bit, well, higher cuteness quotient and less brusque.

Ontir
05-27-2008, 10:48 AM
I don't see Bosworth going anywhere, but if the part were open, Zooey Deschanel would be a good choice.

WorstThingUS
05-27-2008, 12:33 PM
I don't see Bosworth going anywhere, but if the part were open, Zooey Deschanel would be a good choice.

I'm going to third this. Lois should be interesting. After all, she captivates a god.

Utility Belt
05-27-2008, 01:53 PM
Should they replace Bosworth? Yes. With the above mentioned choices? No.
Jennifer Love - very beautiful I'll grant you, but does not fill the role of Lois at all.
Zooey Deschanel - you have got to be kidding me. That girl delivers ALL of her lines in the same deadpan monotone.

OptimusPrime114
05-27-2008, 02:31 PM
Ugh. You must really hate Superman. Or love Ghost Whisperer. Or both.

I don't hate Superman. I've never seen Ghost Whisperer. I picked J. Love because I thought she'd be perfect. Obviously, some people had a rather NEGATIVE opinion.

And another thing, why Zooey instead of Emily? She's tough as nails on Bones

Solaris01
05-27-2008, 03:10 PM
I think Kate was solid as Lois. She reminds me of the golden age Lois and the Dan Jurgens Lois. Yes, she looked and sounded a bit young in some scenes of SR, but there was also a maturity on her face at times, especially on later scenes (third act). I think that some people just didn't particularly like the writing for Lois in this movie. IMO, Kate did a good job with what she was given.

I want her to return. I hate recasting. Besides, she wasn't bad as Katie Holmes in BB, who truly looked like a teenager and was awful acting wise.

BoosterBronze
05-27-2008, 04:03 PM
Whether you liked or disliked Bosworth (I loathed her) I think we can agree that Lois as a character is in kinda a pickle in the next movie. She's with Cyclops and has Superman's bastard.

It seems to me the story with Lois is over. She's with someone else, but has a Super-secret. Unless we flash forward to SON OF SUPERMAN the movie, I'm not interested in what becomes of her.The romance is over.

I'd like to see a film with a differnet female lead (LORI!) just to take the story in a fresh direction. It doesn't even have to be particuarly romantic.

Bored at 3:00AM
05-27-2008, 08:05 PM
I would agree that Kate Bosworth made for the dullest Lois Lane ever, but I think Singer's view of who the character is differs greatly from how fans view her.

If I had to sum up Lois in one word, it'd be: spunk.

Kate Bosworth has a dearth of spunk.

stealthwise
05-27-2008, 08:20 PM
Scarlett Johanssen.

JCAll
05-27-2008, 08:42 PM
Considering that I couldn't have named the actress that played Lois if you had tried to torture it out of me, keeping her or recasting her really makes no difference.

I could stand with a bit more polish though, and for god's sake don't just arbitrarially kill her off. I'm truely sick of that.

OptimusPrime114
05-28-2008, 07:35 AM
First of all, who wants Clois back together in the sequel?

Solaris01
05-28-2008, 12:40 PM
First of all, who wants Clois back together in the sequel?

I do.

But I know that right now that won't be possible, given the circumstances. However, I really want Superman/Clark and Lois to end up together by the end of the series. IMO, they are soul mates and belong together. :cool:

Besides, if Lois loved Richard so much, why hasn't she married him? I have no doubt that she 'loves' Richard.........but she loves Superman much more. I think she stayed with Richard because she saw how much like Superman he was..:wink:

GRANT!
05-28-2008, 10:17 PM
Zooey Deschanel

http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/z/zooey_deschanel/thumbnails/tn2_zooey_deschanel-4.jpg

She always reminded me of Margot Kidder but a bit, well, higher cuteness quotient and less brusque.

She'd be my pick. She's even got a similar voice to Kidder.

GreenMeansGo
05-28-2008, 11:43 PM
Egh. Anyone but Kate Bosworth.

Herr Mike
05-29-2008, 10:12 AM
Hewitt would probably be Bosworth-level bad, though it's hard to imagine. Really, anyone would be better. They certainly have to replace her if they want people to actually go and see this movie.

Also, they should replace the rest of the cast too. And the crew.

Supermancho
05-29-2008, 10:25 AM
Scarlett Johanssen.

http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-354.gifYou got me thinking here....she's so gorgeus....http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-345.gif

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Solaris01
05-29-2008, 08:46 PM
Also, they should replace the rest of the cast too. And the crew.

I disagree. :evilsmile:

Spiffy
05-29-2008, 10:49 PM
By definiton, should Kate Bosworth be replaced for Man of Steel, in the same manner they replaced Katie Holmes and Hired Maggie Gyllenhaal for "The Dark Knight"?

My pick: J. Love Hewitt
She's TERRIBLE.

Whatever problems people might have with Bosworth, there's NO universe where Jennifer Love Hewitt is a better actress.

Pinnacle
05-30-2008, 08:05 AM
I'm more for pulling an "Incredible Hulk" and having a Superman story that's not based on the Donner films because I don't want to see this storyline with Lois with someone else and with Superman's illigetimate son. I don't think Bosworth was good for the role but the role was wrong for Lois. And as far as appearance, I don't think you could beat Bosworth as she personally took my breath away. You could find better actresses to fit the part but nobody that would look more like I want Lois to look and I'd never really thought Bosworth was the best looking actress until I saw her in this. But mainly I want a different role for Lois.

If you recast the role, I wouldn't mind Anne Hathaway. Some of the others mentioned in this thread would be fine too. But not Hewitt.

OptimusPrime114
05-30-2008, 08:27 AM
Anne look like a twin of Brandon Routh's

rZi
05-30-2008, 10:07 AM
Recasting the female lead wouldn't improve the movie that much :frown:

Removing superman's bastard son would help a great deal though.

bw38
06-05-2008, 02:49 AM
i didn't have a problem with bosworth either. even if i did, i don't think she was the problem in the movie. it's all about the story. the cast did its part. it's just that they took a 30yr old story and did absolutely nothing new with it. i mean you don't have to reinvent the wheel here. just stick to the comics. i have the movie on dvd, but only to watch select scenes which looked cool (what can I say, re-hashed scenes from the originals but with today's technology, you just can't go wrong).

simply put, keep the cast, get a better writer for the movie. perhaps try to follow the comics a bit? it doesn't have to be panel by panel, but having a bastard child in the movie....the only reason you even consider that is if you're thinking of killing off Superman....hopefully we never get to find out what they had planned and we actually see the entire series start from scratch.

Pól Rua
06-06-2008, 03:54 AM
I'm more for pulling an "Incredible Hulk" and having a Superman story that's not based on the Donner films because I don't want to see this storyline with Lois with someone else and with Superman's illigetimate son.

Seconded that.
I'd also like to see a guy playing Superman who doesn't look like he should be in a boy band somewhere.
I dunno who you'd get to play Clark, but I've always liked Linda Fiorentino as Lois.

Supermancho
06-06-2008, 01:50 PM
I'll suggest Marisa Tomei.

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Solaris01
06-08-2008, 01:24 PM
i didn't have a problem with bosworth either. even if i did, i don't think she was the problem in the movie. it's all about the story. the cast did its part. it's just that they took a 30yr old story and did absolutely nothing new with it. i mean you don't have to reinvent the wheel here. just stick to the comics. i have the movie on dvd, but only to watch select scenes which looked cool (what can I say, re-hashed scenes from the originals but with today's technology, you just can't go wrong).

simply put, keep the cast, get a better writer for the movie. perhaps try to follow the comics a bit? it doesn't have to be panel by panel, but having a bastard child in the movie....the only reason you even consider that is if you're thinking of killing off Superman....hopefully we never get to find out what they had planned and we actually see the entire series start from scratch.

Ok, I think the first part sounds like hyperbole to me, honestly. The story was not exactly a copy of STM, was it? I mean, where in STM did Lois has a fiance, a child, was bitter a Superman for leaving her, Superman left Earth searching for Krypton, Lex steals kryptonian technology and 'creates' an new landmass, Lex beats up Superman, Superman feels alienated, lifts up an island up into space and has a son?? I think the bones are similar, but the meat is totally different. Besides, why can't a Superman movie follow the same structure than another Superman movie, it is HIS franchise. Or is only ok for Sam Raimi or Nolan to do that? They did say they used STM as inspiration for their movies (Spiderman and BB).

And just because you can't think of more ways on using the kid in the sequel, it doesn't mean that they don't exist. That's why they are professional writers. I have read some imaginative and very creative ways of using the kid in a sequel by the way, and by the fans.
Superman is so powerful, there are only so many ways you can hurt him. I think that now that Lex knows that Jason is Superman's son, it will be a new and more effective way to hurt The Man of Steel, much better than Lois.

reta-winter soldier
06-08-2008, 07:20 PM
I agree just pull a Hulk, change everything. Dont have lex as the villain for a change and yeah marissa tomei sounds good for lois

drpblunt
06-08-2008, 11:19 PM
in my opinion the entire franchise should be retooled much like the hulk franchise, it was a mistake to try and hitch the new franchise to the Donner stuff and i dont think Singer did a very good job of with supes, he pretty much rehashed the 1st movie plot.

with the cast they had he really should have had Parker Posey in the role as Lois, I had mentioned her to a friend as a good lois years ago or even Téa Leoni, these two actresses capture the essence of Lois IMO

drpblunt
06-08-2008, 11:23 PM
I'm more for pulling an "Incredible Hulk" and having a Superman story that's not based on the Donner films because I don't want to see this storyline with Lois with someone else and with Superman's illigetimate son. I don't think Bosworth was good for the role but the role was wrong for Lois. And as far as appearance, I don't think you could beat Bosworth as she personally took my breath away. You could find better actresses to fit the part but nobody that would look more like I want Lois to look and I'd never really thought Bosworth was the best looking actress until I saw her in this. But mainly I want a different role for Lois.

If you recast the role, I wouldn't mind Anne Hathaway. Some of the others mentioned in this thread would be fine too. But not Hewitt.

Sorry dude, didnt see your post, but you sum it up good

Dr. Banner
06-09-2008, 11:17 AM
If by "pull a Dark Knight" with Superman you mean to do what Nolan's done with his Batman sequel and make a new Superman movie that might actually be watchable then yes, yes they should. If you mean to simply replace the female lead then I say what's the point, casting off Bosworth won't be enough to prevent a sucky Singerman sequel.

Dr. Banner
06-09-2008, 11:26 AM
Ok, I think the first part sounds like hyperbole to me, honestly. The story was not exactly a copy of STM, was it? I mean, where in STM did Lois has a fiance, a child, was bitter a Superman for leaving her, Superman left Earth searching for Krypton, Lex steals kryptonian technology and 'creates' an new landmass, Lex beats up Superman, Superman feels alienated, lifts up an island up into space and has a son?? I think the bones are similar, but the meat is totally different. Besides, why can't a Superman movie follow the same structure than another Superman movie, it is HIS franchise. Or is only ok for Sam Raimi or Nolan to do that? They did say they used STM as inspiration for their movies (Spiderman and BB).

And just because you can't think of more ways on using the kid in the sequel, it doesn't mean that they don't exist. That's why they are professional writers. I have read some imaginative and very creative ways of using the kid in a sequel by the way, and by the fans.
Superman is so powerful, there are only so many ways you can hurt him. I think that now that Lex knows that Jason is Superman's son, it will be a new and more effective way to hurt The Man of Steel, much better than Lois.

Wow, you must've be really hard up for a Superman movie to think a Singerman sequel would be a good idea.

Ontir
06-10-2008, 12:45 PM
I'm going to third this. Lois should be interesting. After all, she captivates a god.

A god who was raised on a farm in Kansas, where he had trouble talking to girls. I think Bosworth's "Lois" was perfect for Superman.

Solaris01
06-10-2008, 03:28 PM
If by "pull a Dark Knight" with Superman you mean to do what Nolan's done with his Batman sequel and make a new Superman movie that might actually be watchable then yes, yes they should. If you mean to simply replace the female lead then I say what's the point, casting off Bosworth won't be enough to prevent a sucky Singerman sequel.

Wow, you must've be really hard up for a Superman movie to think a Singerman sequel would be a good idea.

.... :confused: I thought you really liked SR.

Dorsai
06-10-2008, 03:50 PM
Honestly, it wouldn't hurt me to have a movie without a Lois Lane. Simply because of the format and time constraints of a feature film, I suspect any Superman movie with Lois will have a large romantic component.

I personally would like to finally see a REAL Superman action movie. I'm not talking about that strange Sentry-looking clone Luthor created (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NuclearMan2.jpg)in the early movies. I would like to see more of a full-on slugfest at some point. I thought that even Superman II could have benefitted from more action and less drama.

I may be bucking the trend but I really wouldn't mind no Lois and no Kryptonite. Afterall, he DOES have an adventure or two that doesn't include her.

I'm sure I'm in the minority but the lack of Superman fighting SUPER-villains on a grand scale has made me cold to the franchise. Yet another Luthor movie involving yet another real-estate deal with a son of Superman thrown in didn't really do a lot for me.

I thought Batman Begins balanced action and drama a bit better but of course, that is just my opinion.

filthysize
06-13-2008, 02:35 PM
Man. A Superman movie without Lois? That would be awful. The crux of these movies is the romance between them. CGI fight between Superman and some dude would be boooooring.

I'm gonna go with... umm. I dunno. Tina Fey.

Zacharius
06-13-2008, 02:49 PM
Honestly, it wouldn't hurt me to have a movie without a Lois Lane. Simply because of the format and time constraints of a feature film, I suspect any Superman movie with Lois will have a large romantic component.


I agree. I believe that hero-types, superpowered or not, are better off without wives and girlfriends who can be used against them as hostages. Hero should either have one-night stands or be totally celibate (for work reasons, of course; "no time for women, I have to save the world)

I may be bucking the trend but I really wouldn't mind no Lois and no Kryptonite. Afterall, he DOES have an adventure or two that doesn't include her.

I'm sure I'm in the minority but the lack of Superman fighting SUPER-villains on a grand scale has made me cold to the franchise. Yet another Luthor movie involving yet another real-estate deal with a son of Superman thrown in didn't really do a lot for me.

Same goes for me.

Black Atom
06-13-2008, 02:51 PM
Seconded that.
I'd also like to see a guy playing Superman who doesn't look like he should be in a boy band somewhere.
I dunno who you'd get to play Clark, but I've always liked Linda Fiorentino as Lois.

That'd be a good choice, but they'd never cast anyone that "old". I like the idea of Maura Tierney as Lois myself.

NOD
06-13-2008, 02:53 PM
I'd replace the actor playing Superman before I found a new Lois. I thought she came across as strong without being obnoxious (unlike every other film/TV Lois), was actually attractive (so she has Kidder beat), and even had a certain resemblance to the Golden Age Lois.

Superman however looked too young and his hair was too long. That may seem ridiculously petty but as the only really iconic superhero that doesn't wear a mask there's a very small window of looks that "work".

David Atkins
06-14-2008, 12:46 AM
I'm rather liking the suggestion of Zooey Deschanel. But, I also was very high on the idea of Selma Blair, whom said she wanted the role back before Bosworth landed it.