Who Should Die Next?!: Cap's Totally Over, So Who Now?

[JonniRandom]

This is a tad morbid, and I know people are more than sick of me posting new threads but who in the Marvel universe should die next?!

[hierro_boshid0]

Ima go ahead and say the Silver Surfer.....Just because.

[IronPalm]

Phyla, Nova or I dunno...maybe hell, red Hulk gets my vote

[JonniRandom]

Phyla, Nova or I dunno...maybe hell, red Hulk gets my vote

There's a red HULK!?

[Tobias Drake]

Mr. Immortal. Then Mr. Immortal. Then Jazinda. Then Mr. Immortal again. And then more Jazinda.

[mikekerr3]

Gyrich and Hill die slow and gruesome deaths. . . Hey I need a few laughs:biggrin:

[wooten16]

Jean Grey

oh wait...

[stingerman]

Actually, fitting in with the "kill the good guy super hero type" they seem to be doing, after reading FF:SI I thought it might be adios for The Thing.

[Britannic]

Red Hulk all the time.

[RolandJP]

Red Hulk...gruesomely!!

[avengers63]

Gambit.

I've hated him since about six months after he was introduced. Elf With A Gun from the Defenders should knock on the door of the X-Mansion. Gambit answers, and promptly gets his head blown off.

[Weapon Ick]

This is a tad morbid, and I know people are more than sick of me posting new threads but who in the Marvel universe should die next?!

Heh. I did the math. You started 45 threads in the span of 11 days. That's gotta be a record.

[JonniRandom]

Heh. I did the math. You started 45 threads in the span of 11 days. That's gotta be a record.

Heh...

Meany!

Those 45 thoughts have been trapped in my head for approximately 12 years!

[Shellhead]

Death should die. She's practically worthless in the Marvel Universe anyway. In this old comic Elementals, written by Bill Willingham, none of the superhuman characters could be killed. They regenerated back from any wounds, even seemingly lethal ones. However, the process was extremely painful, so they still tried to avoid serious injury. Marvel could go the same route, and then find some other way to grab readers, something more original than meaningless and temporary deaths.

[Tobias Drake]

Death should die. She's practically worthless in the Marvel Universe anyway. In this old comic Elementals, written by Bill Willingham, none of the superhuman characters could be killed. They regenerated back from any wounds, even seemingly lethal ones. However, the process was extremely painful, so they still tried to avoid serious injury. Marvel could go the same route, and then find some other way to grab readers, something more original than meaningless and temporary deaths.

An entire universe of Wolverine has very little in terms of threat and danger for the characters involved, though. Logan is a prime example of this; nothing is a threat to him. At no point do his stories feel like the character is in any danger that he won't bounce back from. And it works for his particular character, to varying degrees of effectiveness. But to turn the entire Marvel line into "Everyone is Wolverine" would get extremely old, extremely fast.

[Shellhead]

An entire universe of Wolverine has very little in terms of threat and danger for the characters involved, though. Logan is a prime example of this; nothing is a threat to him. At no point do his stories feel like the character is in any danger that he won't bounce back from. And it works for his particular character, to varying degrees of effectiveness. But to turn the entire Marvel line into "Everyone is Wolverine" would get extremely old, extremely fast.

How many times has Cap died now?

http://filingcabinetofthedamned.blogspot.com/2005/06/like-jesus-but-with-fisticuffs.html

"The Onslaught D&R does have one redeeming feature: it was Cap’s second death in calendar year 1996. That has to be some kind of record."

"In his most embarrassing death, Cap is killed by a group of very old Nazi farts in a subdivision in New Jersey who had built some missile-thingy. The story was supposed to be laden with symbolism and weight, but it felt as silly as this recap."

"The man cannot stop dying. Cap’s best friend and former partner, the Falcon, had unraveled and started pushing people around. One of the men the Falcon slapped around came back with a gun and shot at him. In a fluke, the bullet hit and killed Cap instead. He gets better."

Reading through the whole link, it appears that Cap truly died at least seven times. He also faked his own death on more than one occasion.

[Comet Man]

I like Shellhead's idea. I don't think any characters should ever die.

If people need characters to die so they can enjoy the comics, and to be a good story for them, then they must be pretty bored with comics.

[JonniRandom]

I like Shellhead's idea. I don't think any characters should ever die.

If people need characters to die so they can enjoy the comics, and to be a good story for them, then they must be pretty bored with comics.

I'm sorry but if some characters don't die then the MU is going to be overpopulated quickly, also, how are we supposed to take "supervillains" who claim that they'll "maybe probably not really oh go on then kill someone if they don't get revenge/ cash/ their own yacht" seriously if they never actually succeed?
How many times can someone be punched around before they are injured?

[Shellhead]

I like Shellhead's idea. I don't think any characters should ever die.

If people need characters to die so they can enjoy the comics, and to be a good story for them, then they must be pretty bored with comics.

Remember "What If?" They should have called that comic "Who Dies?"

[Big Red Spider]

I agree I think Wolverine should die. and be gone for at least two or three years.

[JonniRandom]

I agree I think Wolverine should die. and be gone for at least two or three years.

Agreed, let Laura X take his place.

[Shellhead]

Agreed, let Laura X take his place.

Or Stacy X. We all know what Logan *really* does best... sell himself.

[JonniRandom]

Or Stacy X. We all know what Logan *really* does best... sell himself.

Hehe, I always thought that Laura X and Stacy X should have joined together and gone on a roadtrip, this should make up some of NYX [although it's not set in NY:tongue: ]; that would be COOL

[Tobias Drake]

Or Stacy X. We all know what Logan *really* does best... sell himself.

Or Jamie Madrox. He's the only one who could possibly make as many appearances.

[JonniRandom]

Or Jamie Madrox. He's the only one who could possibly make as many appearances.

Hehe

I like Jamie Madrox:biggrin:

[Big Red Spider]

Agreed, let Laura X take his place.

It just seems like it follows Marvel's status quo of eliminating their most iconic characters. Killing Capt and replacing him with Bucky, Retconning Spidey with magic, making the Hulk cool and then burying him underground.

So I say have Wolvering commit suicide with his magic sword or a carbonion bullet and then have the Fantasitic Four decide to be evil awhile for no reason.

[Nova3333]

Phyla, Nova or I dunno...maybe hell, red Hulk gets my vote

Red Hulk and any poor looking avatar renditions of Adam Warlock!

[hawkeye comeback]

Hank pym, i just cant seem to care about him anymore writers always seems to make him carry on doing shit, even some great writers like slott and busiek.

the whole letting a nazi, who admires him, clone a human for the purpose of making super-heros is morally aprehensible. he is implicit becuase he didnt stop it.

i'll find it hard to like him even when he comes back from skrulldom.

[Kaplan]

I vote Hulk too. He's always been the most irritating comic character to me. Not sure if Marvel will terminate him for that reason alone though. :rolleyes:

[fudgekp]

When it happens, It's gotta be someone like Pym - someone thats been around for ages, isn't a invaluable member of the superhero community, but is respected and known by most of them enough so it affects everyone in some way or another.

[Siddon]

I would love it if the next "big" event that kills 10 major Marvel characters off, here who I think should go

Angel
Black Panther
Cyclops
Iron Fist
Nova
Sue Storm
Silver Surfer
Spider-woman (Drew)
Thing
Wasp

[Shellhead]

I vote Hulk too. He's always been the most irritating comic character to me. Not sure if Marvel will terminate him for that reason alone though. :rolleyes:

Hulk has an important redeeming quality... he still sells comic books in respectable numbers. Look at World War Hulk. Also, there is still a possibility that Marvel will eventually make a good Hulk movie.

[Ghost Shark]

Aunt F**kin' May!

[ThePhenom]

Put a firm Skrull-killing bullet through Xavin's head.

I like my Runaways likable, with just a few unflattering traits.

[hawkeye comeback]

I would love it if the next "big" event that kills 10 major Marvel characters off, here who I think should go

Angel
Black Panther
Cyclops
Iron Fist
Nova
Sue Storm
Silver Surfer
Spider-woman (Drew)
Thing
Wasp

Black panther dying would have some good potential storys with Storm, would she become the ruler of wakanda?

[Skytheen]

Black panther dying would have some good potential storys with Storm, would she become the ruler of wakanda?
Wouldn't that be interesting, Ororo IS the Black Panther. Now that would be neat.

[Shellhead]

Wouldn't that be interesting, Ororo IS the Black Panther. Now that would be neat.

Or she could call herself Black Lightning.

[Rolltideguy77]

BND Spider-Man/Sage/Beast

[brundlefly]

Aunt F**kin' May!

The real Aunt May died in DeMatteis' ASM #400. The current "Aunt May" is just a clone/Skrull/actress in Norman Osborn's employ. And nothing will ever convince me otherwise. :biggrin:

[Alan2099]

The real Aunt May died in DeMatteis' ASM #400. The current "Aunt May" is just a clone/Skrull/actress in Norman Osborn's employ. And nothing will ever convince me otherwise. :biggrin:

Hey, if you like being wrong, more power to ya'. :tongue:

[Ghost Shark]

The real Aunt May died in DeMatteis' ASM #400. The current "Aunt May" is just a clone/Skrull/actress in Norman Osborn's employ. And nothing will ever convince me otherwise. :biggrin:

You are my new hero!

[Rolltideguy77]

The real Aunt May died in DeMatteis' ASM #400. The current "Aunt May" is just a clone/Skrull/actress in Norman Osborn's employ. And nothing will ever convince me otherwise. :biggrin:

So very true.

[brundlefly]

Hey, if you like being wrong, more power to ya'. :tongue:

If that's being wrong, I don't want to be right.

[Mister Mets]

This shouldn't be a decision made by the fans, who often don't realize the benefits of keeping a character alive.

Aunt F**kin' May!

Case in point.

If you kill off Aunt May, you kill off the one person who really knew Peter Parker before he was Spider-Man (and who knew his parents, and Uncle Ben.) And every now and then, Peter's past is somehow key to a storyline. You could ship Aunt May to Florida, but you still need to keep her alive for those scenes. To say nothing of her other benefits as a member of his supporting cast. The benefits of killing her off are comparatively minimal.

[JonniRandom]

This shouldn't be a decision made by the fans, who often don't realize the benefits of keeping a character alive.



Case in point.

If you kill off Aunt May, you kill off the one person who really knew Peter Parker before he was Spider-Man (and who knew his parents, and Uncle Ben.) And every now and then, Peter's past is somehow key to a storyline. You could ship Aunt May to Florida, but you still need to keep her alive for those scenes. To say nothing of her other benefits as a member of his supporting cast. The benefits of killing her off are comparatively minimal.

Killjoy!

Aunt May is a positively perfect character to kill!

[hawkeye comeback]

Luke Cage?
we get a different direction from new avengers maybe
i wish new avengers had songbird and deadpool in it i know they both pro-reggers but think they would add something to the NA.

[Tobias Drake]

This shouldn't be a decision made by the fans, who often don't realize the benefits of keeping a character alive.



Case in point.

If you kill off Aunt May, you kill off the one person who really knew Peter Parker before he was Spider-Man (and who knew his parents, and Uncle Ben.) And every now and then, Peter's past is somehow key to a storyline. You could ship Aunt May to Florida, but you still need to keep her alive for those scenes. To say nothing of her other benefits as a member of his supporting cast. The benefits of killing her off are comparatively minimal.

But at the same time, there are dramatic purposes to cutting off Peter's last remaining tie to the past, leaving him only the future to look ahead to.

[Alan2099]

Killjoy!

Aunt May is a positively perfect character to kill!

No no. Aunt Anna is a positively perfect character to kill. At least Peter's Aunt contributes to stories sometimes (and was the Herald of Galactus), MJ's Aunt doesn't do anything. She doesn't even appear that often. Stupid Aunt Anna.

[La Fea]

A major X-Manz, simply because there's too many and all their big players (aside from Jean) are still around.

[Shellhead]

Bring back Cap and kill him again. They've been doing it for 12 years now, why stop?

[Alan2099]

Wiat. I know who they should kill!

Ask yourself who you're favorite character is.
That person.

[CyberHubbs]

Wiat. I know who they should kill!

Ask yourself who you're favorite character is.
That person.

Not Spider-Ham! Nooooooooooooo!

Eh. Galactus again? But have his body orbiting the Earth, so that in a future storyline Magneto can build a base in the crack of Galactus' butt. Then he can threaten to destroy countries with laser-cannons protruding from it.

[La Fea]

Wiat. I know who they should kill!

Ask yourself who you're favorite character is.
That person.

That would be silly.

[JonniRandom]

Wiat. I know who they should kill!

Ask yourself who you're favorite character is.
That person.

They'd never kill Howard the Duck, would they?

Not Spider-Ham! Nooooooooooooo!

Eh. Galactus again? But have his body orbiting the Earth, so that in a future storyline Magneto can build a base in the crack of Galactus' butt. Then he can threaten to destroy countries with laser-cannons protruding from it.

WOW! heehee

[Siddon]

Black panther dying would have some good potential storys with Storm, would she become the ruler of wakanda?

She would be torn between leading X-men (I'm killing Cyclops) and ruling Wakanda. Also I kind of want Nova and Iron Fist to have a closing chapter, the stories are great right now but neither series will survive much longer I would love for one character to kill both of them.

[ashez2ashes]

Luke Cage?
we get a different direction from new avengers maybe
i wish new avengers had songbird and deadpool in it i know they both pro-reggers but think they would add something to the NA.

Deadpool's technically pro-registration, but it wouldn't take much to get him to switch side. They'd just have to have something he really wants like lots of money or the full signed dvd collection of Maude.

[Michael P]

I think it'd be interesting if they tried writing stories about people living. You know, just for the novelty.

[phantom1592]

Luke Cage?
we get a different direction from new avengers maybe


They don't have to kill him. THAT is a skrull! The Real Luke Cage just got of a ship wearing his yellow shirt and headband!

PLEASE tell me that was the real Powerman! I want my Luke to be cool and you know be identified by appearance as opposed to this new guy who goes wears street clothes :rolleyes:

[fred10]

They don't have to kill him. THAT is a skrull! The Real Luke Cage just got of a ship wearing his yellow shirt and headband!

PLEASE tell me that was the real Powerman! I want my Luke to be cool and you know be identified by appearance as opposed to this new guy who goes wears street clothes :rolleyes:

Word, cracka!

(Note, I said "cracka", not "crack-ER", so as not to offend you or anyone else.... "like" you.)

[fred10]

Marvel should kill me! That would be a TERRIBLE story! And who would see it coming?

I've always wanted to have a near death experience, but I've always been afraid I would go to far and actually kill myself. With Marvel in charge, I'm virtually guaranteed of coming back!

[Guest_1001]

I like Shellhead's idea. I don't think any characters should ever die.

If people need characters to die so they can enjoy the comics, and to be a good story for them, then they must be pretty bored with comics.

Are you telling me you wouldn't find a certain lack of suspense in comic book stories -- including major crossovers where characters regularly die -- if you sat down with a comic book knowing nobody would EVER die?

[Madrox84]

Aunt F**kin' May!

I'll second that.

That annoying old bat should have pegged it years ago.

[phantom1592]

Are you telling me you wouldn't find a certain lack of suspense in comic book stories -- including major crossovers where characters regularly die -- if you sat down with a comic book knowing nobody would EVER die?

I agree there should be a "threat" of death. However I think they have overdone it and killed the threat. The day they brought Bucky and Jason Todd back from the dead, I just gave up. Nobody will stay dead. Ever.

Every time they "pretend" to kill someone it only cheapens the threat even more.

[Mister Mets]

But at the same time, there are dramatic purposes to cutting off Peter's last remaining tie to the past, leaving him only the future to look ahead to.What stories do you gain by limiting the writers from what is a viable source of inspiration (Peter's parents, anything involving Uncle Ben, anything involving Peter's childhood)?

No no. Aunt Anna is a positively perfect character to kill. At least Peter's Aunt contributes to stories sometimes (and was the Herald of Galactus), MJ's Aunt doesn't do anything. She doesn't even appear that often. Stupid Aunt Anna.I might agree with you here. She's the supporting character of two supporting characters. Though she might be useful if Marvel ever decides to do a Mary Jane monthly.

[PunisherFan]

Tony Stark, no more mustache rides for him

[Kid Kyoto]

I like Shellhead's idea. I don't think any characters should ever die.

If people need characters to die so they can enjoy the comics, and to be a good story for them, then they must be pretty bored with comics.

Disagree strongly.

Any character can be replaced.

ANY CHARACTER.

And if they can't, well flashbacks, out of continuity miniseries etc.

Fans have clutched too long to fifty, sixty, seventy year old characters. Time is limited, Money is limited. Creators are limited. Time to move on to new characters.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Either Reed Richards, Tony Stark, Black Bolt, or Dr Strange would be my guesses.

[hawkeye comeback]

I think death has its place in comics but i dont think a writer should use death just for shock value and i think about 50% of those dead should be resurected at the most and about 15 to 20 years later so that people are suprised to see them return.

There have been some great examples of death where they have really work, alot of them in the first 120 so issues of the amazing spiderman
Uncle Ben
Fredrick Foswell
Captain Stacy
Gwen stacy
Norman Osborn, i would like the green goblin so much more if he had died there and they didnt create another goblin or resurrect him.

[The Black Guardian]

I like Shellhead's idea. I don't think any characters should ever die.

If people need characters to die so they can enjoy the comics, and to be a good story for them, then they must be pretty bored with comics.
Aunt F**kin' May!
Agreed completely with the above.
This shouldn't be a decision made by the fans, who often don't realize the benefits of keeping a character alive.

Case in point.

If you kill off Aunt May, you kill off the one person who really knew Peter Parker before he was Spider-Man (and who knew his parents, and Uncle Ben.) And every now and then, Peter's past is somehow key to a storyline. You could ship Aunt May to Florida, but you still need to keep her alive for those scenes. To say nothing of her other benefits as a member of his supporting cast. The benefits of killing her off are comparatively minimal.
Well, I agree that it shouldn't be left to the fans, but I disagree with you about the worth of Aunt May. Peter's past, before he was Spidey, is never, ever that interesting, and it should never, ever be. Plus, there are other characters who knew Peter back then. Besides, at this point, the story that has anything to do with anything that happened before he was Spidey should be an extreme rarity. Before Peter was Spidey, he was a less than normal high school student. Making something interesting out of this past defeats the whole purpose of the character.
Are you telling me you wouldn't find a certain lack of suspense in comic book stories -- including major crossovers where characters regularly die -- if you sat down with a comic book knowing nobody would EVER die?
Honestly, no. In fact, whenever I see a comic that I think that's going to happen, I keep my distance, because reading about characters that die bores me. I mean, seriously, I'm reading to see how the characters that I like cheat death. That's what interests me. That's what makes me like the characters in the first place. If I wanted to read about people that die, I'd open the newspaper, maybe even to the obituaries page.
I'm sorry but if some characters don't die then the MU is going to be overpopulated quickly,
Please. There's no danger of that.
also, how are we supposed to take "supervillains" who claim that they'll "maybe probably not really oh go on then kill someone if they don't get revenge/ cash/ their own yacht" seriously if they never actually succeed?
Maybe making more interesting villains that aren't trying to kill people. Honestly, I find murderous villains horribly cliched and boring.
How many times can someone be punched around before they are injured?
Injuries are fine.

Anyway, if I had to pick one character to kill, it would be Cyclops.

[hunter_peterson]

I only really find unexpected deaths of well-loved characters to be effective.

And for the random-killing game; KILL BUCKY. Again. Slowly. Or push him through rain-water grills real fast. Like Play-doh.

[da gooch]

Gambit.

I've hated him since about six months after he was introduced. Elf With A Gun from the Defenders should knock on the door of the X-Mansion. Gambit answers, and promptly gets his head blown off.

wow that is old school, but isn't that elf dead?

[SeritoNiN]

I'd like to see Reed Richards bite the big bazooka for a while and come back a year or two later detached and acting like one huge d**k. It would bring some interest into a boring, repetitious character.