What do you make of Jazinda?

[Nyssane]

Jazinda. She-Hulk's new Skrully sidekick... what does everyone think of her?

Maybe it's because I started reading the series during PAD's run, but Jazinda has really grown on me! Especially in the later issues, like the most recent one and this badass scene:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ursula_boi/JazindaBullet.jpg

Anyway, is anyone else really excited in the direction Jazinda will be going during Secret Invasion? I think she makes a perfect ally for Shulkie and is obviously the Gabrielle to Shulkie's Xena. The pair of them in human form, going around and investigating bounties... that's what makes the book so great, IMO.

[Tobias Drake]

I think she makes a perfect ally for Shulkie and is obviously the Gabrielle to Shulkie's Xena.

....I think I know too much about the referenced subject, because that comparison just gave me horrible thoughts. <.<;;

[boshobosho]

I think she makes a perfect ally for Shulkie and is obviously the Gabrielle to Shulkie's Xena. The pair of them in human form, going around and investigating bounties... that's what makes the book so great, IMO.

Gabrielle was just flat out gay for Xena. You've read She-Hulk, Jaz's only power isn't the ability to not die, she's a Skrull sex machine!

On a serious note, I like the character. She's quite thoughtful and plays a good counterpoint to She-Hulk.

[agrich]

I bet she's a Skrull.

[Nyssane]

Gabrielle was just flat out gay for Xena. You've read She-Hulk, Jaz's only power isn't the ability to not die, she's a Skrull sex machine!

On a serious note, I like the character. She's quite thoughtful and plays a good counterpoint to She-Hulk.

Season 1-3 Gabrielle was totally not in love with Xena... I mean, there was the undertones that any medium will have featuring two characters of the same gender, but it wasn't until later that Gabby got her mits on some Xena lovin'.

I think it'd be cute if Jazinda ended up falling for Shulkie.

[Venom Melendez]

Season 1-3 Gabrielle was totally not in love with Xena... I mean, there was the undertones that any medium will have featuring two characters of the same gender, but it wasn't until later that Gabby got her mits on some Xena lovin'.

I think it'd be cute if Jazinda ended up falling for Shulkie.


It would seem forced though since so far they have appeared to be just good friends.

Not that i would mind grant you.

[RonnieThunderbolts]

I bet she's a Skrull.

You totally just blew my mind.

and... I like Jazinda! I'm not so sure I want her falling for Jen, but if done well and told organically, I doubt I'd take any issue with it.

[Monty_Cristo]

i don't trust her. she was always making little analytical asides to She-Hulk in the early issues. i simply don't trust an intelligent character who can change shape + survive pretty much anything.

[mikekerr3]

....I think I know too much about the referenced subject, because that comparison just gave me horrible thoughts. <.<;;

The idea of green on green bothers you?:wink:

[Drdmx]

Skrull Godess!

I've never seen a skrull take a bullet to the head and act like it's nothin.

[Monty_Cristo]

Skrull Godess!

I've never seen a skrull take a bullet to the head and act like it's nothin.

well they usually just act dead.

[mikekerr3]

Skrull Godess!

I've never seen a skrull take a bullet to the head and act like it's nothin.

Shes immortal a nuke to the head would not kill her

[Drdmx]

Cool.

Why? Sorry, finances do not allow me to keep up with this book.

[Tobias Drake]

Cool.

Why? Sorry, finances do not allow me to keep up with this book.

Hasn't been revealed yet.

[Venom Melendez]

Shes immortal a nuke to the head would not kill her


Well, she hasn't been nuked yet so the jury's out on that one.

[Will.S]

i don't trust her. she was always making little analytical asides to She-Hulk in the early issues. i simply don't trust an intelligent character who can change shape + survive pretty much anything.
She could definitely give Mystique a run for her money powers wise.

[mikekerr3]

Well, she hasn't been nuked yet so the jury's out on that one.

SHe cannot die, that has been stated not that she was tougher than the average.

[Tobias Drake]

SHe cannot die, that has been stated not that she was tougher than the average.

Yeah, but all things are relative. Hulk is the strongest there is unless someone is stronger. Juggernaut is unstoppable except when he's stopped. Blob is immoveable except when he's moved. Wolverine is unkillable except when he's killed. Etc. etc.

Jazinda has stated that she's unkillable and has survived a few things that support that. But we still don't know where the upper extreme of her being "unkillable" is. For example, if she was blown into a million pieces, would she still be aware as one of those tiny pieces, living eternally as a scrap of flesh? Or would she die? If she was atomized, would she be a self-aware atom?

Typically, "Unkillable" generally just translates to "really hard to kill", not "absolute 100% immortality". Largely because of the impossible nature of the latter.

[Venom Melendez]

SHe cannot die, that has been stated not that she was tougher than the average.

How do they really now if they don't try everything though? I mean how can she come back if she has no body to come back to?

[mikekerr3]

Yeah, but all things are relative. Hulk is the strongest there is unless someone is stronger. Juggernaut is unstoppable except when he's stopped. Blob is immoveable except when he's moved. Wolverine is unkillable except when he's killed. Etc. etc.

Jazinda has stated that she's unkillable and has survived a few things that support that. But we still don't know where the upper extreme of her being "unkillable" is. For example, if she was blown into a million pieces, would she still be aware as one of those tiny pieces, living eternally as a scrap of flesh? Or would she die? If she was atomized, would she be a self-aware atom?

Typically, "Unkillable" generally just translates to "really hard to kill", not "absolute 100% immortality". Largely because of the impossible nature of the latter.

I read it as been in the Wolverine class with some more magic thrown in, just my interpretaion. or maybe Mr Immortal

[RonnieThunderbolts]

I read it as been in the Wolverine class with some more magic thrown in, just my interpretaion. or maybe Mr Immortal

Yeah, she flat out said she could die but would always come back. I'm guessing your assessment is correct. That is how I read it too. If she had no body to come back to the irradiated molecules would slowly drift back together and reform. It wasn't described as a healing factor or being tough on panel when she got into it, she said she always comes back from death. Add in the magic element, and it isn't really hard to believe.

[Venom Melendez]

Yeah, she flat out said she could die but would always come back. I'm guessing your assessment is correct. That is how I read it too. If she had no body to come back to the irradiated molecules would slowly drift back together and reform. It wasn't described as a healing factor or being tough on panel when she got into it, she said she always comes back from death. Add in the magic element, and it isn't really hard to believe.

But she gets desintegrated in a by a nuke or gets thrown into the sun how can she get back?

So far every time she dies her body is intact.

[mikekerr3]

But she gets desintegrated in a by a nuke or gets thrown into the sun how can she get back?

So far every time she dies her body is intact.

Its the Mu it doesn't have to make sense co,plete sense. How does a Human body (sentry) contain enough energy to flash frie a million or more cubic miles of space. How does the hulk get stronger? Some things don't have to make a rea;l connection with reality,

After listening to Reed explaination of his math in FF, surviving a nuke is easier to believe.:biggrin:

[Venom Melendez]

Its the Mu it doesn't have to make sense co,plete sense. How does a Human body (sentry) contain enough energy to flash frie a million or more cubic miles of space. How does the hulk get stronger? Some things don't have to make a rea;l connection with reality,

After listening to Reed explaination of his math in FF, surviving a nuke is easier to believe.:biggrin:

Point taken.


Either way at least she can actually fight unlike Mr.Imortal who while can't die also can fight so he's basicly Marvels Kenny.

[Tobias Drake]

Yeah, she flat out said she could die but would always come back. I'm guessing your assessment is correct. That is how I read it too. If she had no body to come back to the irradiated molecules would slowly drift back together and reform. It wasn't described as a healing factor or being tough on panel when she got into it, she said she always comes back from death. Add in the magic element, and it isn't really hard to believe.

There isn't enough known about her to really say one way or another. So far, the only thing we have are a couple resurrections that are fairly simple healing, and her own testimony that she dies and comes back. We don't know how much she's tested it, either; we're just taking it on faith that she knows there's no limit.

There just isn't enough information available at present.

[mikekerr3]

There isn't enough known about her to really say one way or another. So far, the only thing we have are a couple resurrections that are fairly simple healing, and her own testimony that she dies and comes back. We don't know how much she's tested it, either; we're just taking it on faith that she knows there's no limit.

There just isn't enough information available at present.

Yep, we have to little evidence to be sure. But she seems to think so and actually seems to be pretty forthright.

[Tobias Drake]

Yep, we have to little evidence to be sure. But she seems to think so and actually seems to be pretty forthright.

Yeah. But she still hasn't actually done anything too severe regarding it, so she could simply believe it because she's survived a couple things that a basic healing factor would cover. A power like that is pretty hard to disprove, after all; there's only one way to prove her wrong. As it clearly hasn't happened yet, she has no reason to believe she's not 100% immortal and can never die. But because she believes it doesn't necessarily mean she is.

[RonnieThunderbolts]

Yep, we have to little evidence to be sure. But she seems to think so and actually seems to be pretty forthright.

Exactly, there isn't enough information to be sure, but we have no reason to not take her word for it other than uncontrolled skepticism. With the information presented, we as readers have been told she doesn't simply heal, but comes back from the dead. Healing functions stop when someone dies, to call it fairly simple healing when in the comics we HAVE seen her die, it is beyond healing, it is resurrection. A body whose brain stops functioning and heart stops functioning stops repairing itself, just because the body is intact doesn't make it healing, although I will admit, resurrecting an in tact corpse is simpler than reassembling it, but their is no more inherent believability beyond its simplicity.

Yeah. But she still hasn't actually done anything too severe regarding it, so she could simply believe it because she's survived a couple things that a basic healing factor would cover. A power like that is pretty hard to disprove, after all; there's only one way to prove her wrong. As it clearly hasn't happened yet, she has no reason to believe she's not 100% immortal and can never die. But because she believes it doesn't necessarily mean she is.

While you are correct essentially, there is no reason to disbelieve her provided. However, a basic healing factor doesn't include a corpse becoming alive, and that has happened, Jaz said she did indeed die. Humans who die for a moment need resuscitation, there is no internal healing. In the Baddoon in the wilderness story the narrative and characters state Jaz died, and then came back, and there is a distinction between that and healing.

[Venom Melendez]

Exactly, there isn't enough information to be sure, but we have no reason to not take her word for it other than uncontrolled skepticism. With the information presented, we as readers have been told she doesn't simply heal, but comes back from the dead. Healing functions stop when someone dies, to call it fairly simple healing when in the comics we HAVE seen her die, it is beyond healing, it is resurrection. A body whose brain stops functioning and heart stops functioning stops repairing itself, just because the body is intact doesn't make it healing, although I will admit, resurrecting an in tact corpse is simpler than reassembling it, but their is no more inherent believability beyond its simplicity.



While you are correct essentially, there is no reason to disbelieve her provided. However, a basic healing factor doesn't include a corpse becoming alive, and that has happened, Jaz said she did indeed die. Humans who die for a moment need resuscitation, there is no internal healing. In the Baddoon in the wilderness story the narrative and characters state Jaz died, and then came back, and there is a distinction between that and healing.


Actually, Didn't Norman's Healing factor Kick in and reanimated him when he got killed the first time?

[RonnieThunderbolts]

Actually, Didn't Norman's Healing factor Kick in and reanimated him when he got killed the first time?

That doesn't make it a "standard healing factor" trait. Not all healing factors are created equal. Wolverine has straight up healing powers, but as detailed recently in the Howard Chaykin drawn Marc Guggenheim writer Wolverine arc that he had previously resurrected, separate from his healing ability, due to a mystical battle in the afterlife. His inherent healing factor isn't able to come back from anything, but his he has been able to through this weird deal in purgatory.

Ulysses Bloodstone had a healing factor, and he is dead. His corpse didn't heal itself. Currently Sabretooth is dead, although he has a healing factor to rival Wolverine's.

Based on Jazinda's remarks, she seems to consider it more or a resurrection power, and it appears to be linked to magic. It is one thing to be a skeptic, it is entirely another to assume that a character's description of their own powers is incorrect, and it is actually a similar, but still different ability entirely.

[boshobosho]

Season 1-3 Gabrielle was totally not in love with Xena... I mean, there was the undertones that any medium will have featuring two characters of the same gender, but it wasn't until later that Gabby got her mits on some Xena lovin'.

I think it'd be cute if Jazinda ended up falling for Shulkie.

who's the dom and who's the sub?

[pitbull in a skirt]

Season 1-3 Gabrielle was totally not in love with Xena... I mean, there was the undertones that any medium will have featuring two characters of the same gender, but it wasn't until later that Gabby got her mits on some Xena lovin'.

I think it'd be cute if Jazinda ended up falling for Shulkie.

http://i32.tinypic.com/ap896f.jpg

[Dard]

I think the character Jazinda will have to prove herself in Secret Invasion.
In several ways I think she will take the role there that I expected and hoped from Lyja.
The rest remains to be seen.

[Nyssane]

http://images.wizarduniverse.com/WizardUniverse/Previews/PREV423/SheHulk_31_Preview5.jpg

Jazinda ain't funna be happeh!

[Zero Hunter]

Lets just see how well she does going a few rounds with her daddy in afew issues. (That is unless David chumps him out and has him getting his butt kicked)

[Tobias Drake]

Lets just see how well she does going a few rounds with her daddy in afew issues. (That is unless David chumps him out and has him getting his butt kicked)

After the showing Kl'rt put in during Annihilation, I should hope he won't be a pushover. Still, y'never know....

[Michael P]

I can make a hat, or a brooch, or a pterodactyl...

[Libaax]

I had never read She-Hulk before this week.

After a few issues of PAD run i think i will add the series to my pull list after the try out.

Mostly because of i found Jazinda to be the coolest Skrull i have seen,she is awesome :)




Hehe i read X-Factor 33 recently just before i tried She-Hulk and didnt understand who this Skrull like Shulkie was, now i totally understand :D

[MakeshiftHero]

I think she's a great partner for She-Hulk. She's more level headed and a thinker who has the power to back herself up and She-Hulk if needed.

And with Jaz going after the "morale" of the Skrulls and attempting to kill him, I'd say she has deffinately proven herself to be a friend of She-Hulk and Earth if you want to go as far as that.

[drwho]

Fodder I cant wait till she dies. there are way too many skrulls running around the marvel universe.

[Arrogantcur]

who's the dom and who's the sub?

Well, right now Jazinda's calling the plays ("we're not going to New York, we're going to get this Talisman guy!"), so make of that what you will... :redface:

Seriously, Jaz is cool. I like her and I'll keep liking her as long as she keeps being the way she is.

[Spiffy]

I think there's a bad road ahead for Jazinda (and by extension She Hulk), because first she'll have to fight her own people, THEN if she lives when the Skrulls are inevitably driven off, Jazinda's going to have to deal with a planet full of people who will want to kill her on sight, if they ever get any hint of what she is. Probably, even if she helps repel the invasion in some way, the powers that be will try to hunt her down, and probably She Hulk as well.

Then we'll get even more scenes of Tony Stark being an officious a-hole, lecturing She Hulk and ordering her to surrender herself, etc. etc. Oh joy!

[ivesaidway2much]

Then we'll get even more scenes of Tony Stark being an officious a-hole, lecturing She Hulk and ordering her to surrender herself, etc. etc. Oh joy!I hate Tony Stark as much as the next guy, but even I don't think he's a racist.

[Libaax]

Personally i dont want to ever see Stark in She-Hulk again.


I understand their history with her working for Sheild and everything but seeing Iron Man appear in 26,27 issue was so random and lame.

Cant escape the guy even in a comic like She-Hulk.....

[CMBMOOL]

I can still see SI being in a way of straining the friendship/trust between Jaz and the She-Hulk, I can't wait to see what will happen if they both make it out of the event alive ? :frown:


Still here's hoping that PAD will not dumb down the Super-skrull, especially after his performance in Annihilation. :tongue:

[Mark_S]

I can still see SI being in a way of straining the friendship/trust between Jaz and the She-Hulk, I can't wait to see what will happen if they both make it out of the event alive ? :frown:


Still here's hoping that PAD will not dumb down the Super-skrull, especially after his performance in Annihilation. :tongue:

I don't think the friendship will be strained by SI, maybe by what's happening to Jen now and who is doing to her. But I think the friendship is solid, if not drifting into the romantic phase. I don't see that happening even as sexually liberated as Jen is.
Jaz has made her choice by telling Jen about SI and providing her with a target. She's like Teac in Stargate. If there was a smattering of appreciation for something like that in the mu then the aftermath of SI shouldn't be a problem. Of course there isn't so I'm sure they'll both be hunted down. Tony Stark isn't done with Jen yet.

Mark_S

[Peter David]

Lets just see how well she does going a few rounds with her daddy in afew issues. (That is unless David chumps him out and has him getting his butt kicked)

Definitely not.

PAD

[Peter David]

i don't trust her. she was always making little analytical asides to She-Hulk in the early issues. i simply don't trust an intelligent character who can change shape + survive pretty much anything.

You realize you just described Mr. Fantastic, right...?

PAD

[Dagger]

You realize you just described Mr. Fantastic, right...?

PAD
And he's an even more shifty bastard than Jazinda!

[Drdmx]

Good to see you back on the boards PAD.

[Spiffy]

I hate Tony Stark as much as the next guy, but even I don't think he's a racist.
How does calling him an "officious a-hole" imply he's a racist?

I think that's just become the default Marvel portrayal of him lately, with them only slowly digging out from that. Especially in relation to Jen. PAD has made a better effort at addressing this than most, in the book he controls, just to have it somewhat undermined in other books (Red Hulk, Last Defenders, etc.).

[Mark_S]

How does calling him an "officious a-hole" imply he's a racist?

I think that's just become the default Marvel portrayal of him lately, with them only slowly digging out from that. Especially in relation to Jen. PAD has made a better effort at addressing this than most, in the book he controls, just to have it somewhat undermined in other books (Red Hulk, Last Defenders, etc.).

I don't think that marvel reguards Tony as in a bad place at all. I think they like where he is and what he did to Jen.

I haven't managed to track it down yet but I think that the Last Defenders make reference to Tony's note.

Mark_S

[Spiffy]

I haven't managed to track it down yet but I think that the Last Defenders make reference to Tony's note.

Mark_S
Yes, I think it actually might. But it also reignites the conflict between them somewhat, because Tony acts arrogant and high-handed, and She-Hulk acts pissy and hurt--note or no note.

[Mark_S]

Yes, I think it actually might. But it also reignites the conflict between them somewhat, because Tony acts arrogant and high-handed, and She-Hulk acts pissy and hurt--note or no note.

Well ideally she should never speak to him again and she should spread the word about what he did to anyone else that is considering sleeping with him. But again most of the marvel writers don't seem to see anything wrong with what Tony did, hence the working together part. Truth to tell I thought she'd be sleeping with him again by now.

Mark_S