Supergirl

[Mr. Palmer]

I've heard both positive and negative reviews concerning this title. And that's why I've come to the Supes forum for the real dirt.

Is this book worth reading?

[Johnny_Luck]

not for the last 9 issues or so.

Before that it was really fun and she had a great character that allowed for edge and girttyness which is what it is really missing right now.

Plys the books become Superman and Lois with friends WW and Batman with guest panels containing supergirl, not supergirl.

The issue Puckett introduced superman more into her life lead a large part to the book downfall. She now has no backbone needs to be told what to do, screws up no matter what she does, has everyone tell her they wish she was superman instead and basically has a superman is a god whose feet I should kiss complex. something which has really wrecked the character.

I wish Puckett looked at the first 18 issues of the book and realized how awesome she did on her own without having superman her book, superman already has enough books he is in.

[vazel]

It's obvious they really have not clue what to do with the character. It's pathetic.

[Mr. Palmer]

"...a wrecked character." "...pathetic".

Think I'm going to run out and get the book! :biggrin:

Thanks for the replies. :smile:

[kaelikins]

It's sadly true. But I'm still getting it, because I really really want Kara to stick around.

[Lupek]

I respectfully disagree with Johnny Luck about Supermans involvement in the Supergirl book. I'd like to see Superman, the Kents, Lois, and even Jimmy and Krypto be more of a family to Kara. I'd also like to see more of Supergirl going against villians from the super stable/mythos. I don't really want Kara to be part of the Teen Titans/Oustiders set. I want a Supergirl book that mostly operates in the Superman corner of the DCU. I think that within the DC universe Kara should be treated as more of an A list character.

And I like dark and gritty in the Batman universe. I like cheesecake in my Red Sonja comics. But I dont care for that stuff in my Super books I guess.

I dropped the book with issue #11, picked it up again a few issues ago. I don't want to get on one creative team case or another but this book has never had the bright and positive future/quasi sci fi sheen that all the other Super books have. I wish DC could get Geoff Johns and Kurt Busiek (or Donner) to at least plot the Supergirl book or over see it's direction somehow. I have been loving the Super books the past 2 plus years. Supergirl is the only super book that dissapoints me. I think the best Supergirl so far was the Supergirl that was in Waids Legion of Superheroes book. I'd buy a Waid/Kitson Supergirl book in a hurry.

The recent Ressurection Man/cancer story is interesting enough that the book is back on my list. But the book could still be better-er.

[Johnny_Luck]

then why have a supergirl book at all. This book is Hers, not Clarks, not The Kents, this book is supposed to be hers. Its her Solo title(solo being the key word there), she is in other superman titles enough to have that elsewhere, this book should be hers and hers alone.

Cassie and Boomer should be brought back as he cast/friends and thats all she really needs.

also she doesn't need to be superman in a skirt, or super cute and nice. she doesn't need to think her cousin is a god more so because pre-19 she didn't give a shit what he thought about her or what he did) not saying the book has to be dark, but make it as edgy as it was and gritty every once in a while at least.

[Shellhead]

They should make Supergirl a Vertigo title.

[WorstThingUS]

I've heard both positive and negative reviews concerning this title. And that's why I've come to the Supes forum for the real dirt.

Is this book worth reading?

They've mismanaged her character since her return in Superman/Batman. That story was bad and all the stories here have been bad and worse than bad, boring. Joe Kelly was writing a darker vision of Supergirl (imagine Lindsay Lohan with superpowers and you pretty much have it) that wasn't well-recieved and was undone almost immediately (wasn't it a dream caused by Dark Angel or something like that). I won't say I was thrilled with the idea that Zor-El was now evil and send Kara to earth to kill Kal-El, but I won't say the idea was totally uninteresting and maybe in better hands it might have been something, but Joe Kelly did not have those hands. It's sad the two worst books at DC, are both "Super" in nature (Superman/Batman, Supergirl).

And while I agree this shouldn't be Superman's book, it makes perfect sense he'd be making regular appearances. It should be like Batman's appearances in Robin or Nightwing. Obviously you don't have them without him, but he's not in every single issue, joining them on every single adventure.

You want to see her done right, read her appearances in The Brave & The Bold. That's a superpowered teen chafing under her cousin.

[KET]

I've heard both positive and negative reviews concerning this title. And that's why I've come to the Supes forum for the real dirt.

Is this book worth reading?


No.

At this point, the book has been merely an ongoing series of gimmicks that have pretty much become all played out. And with SMALLVILLE reportedly bailing on their 'Kara' character next season, there's no longer any TV tie-in to help prop this thing up anymore.

[NotSuper]

To be honest, I wouldn't recommend listening to online opinions regarding the title. For other titles, sure, but not this one--for a variety of reasons.

[KET]

To be honest, I wouldn't recommend listening to online opinions regarding the title. For other titles, sure, but not this one--for a variety of reasons.

...which he clearly doesn't want to specify, for even more obvious reasons. :biggrin:

Not Super, anybody with half a brain can figure out what an ongoing train wreck looks like. And I don't think anybody should keep making excuses after already having had YEARS available to clean up the mess.

[WorstThingUS]

To be honest, I wouldn't recommend listening to online opinions regarding the title. For other titles, sure, but not this one--for a variety of reasons.

Is this what we call irony? That it's your online opinion on Supergirl that he shouldn't listen to online opinions on Supergirl? Heh. I love irony.

[brundlefly]

Is this what we call irony? That it's your online opinion on Supergirl that he shouldn't listen to online opinions on Supergirl? Heh. I love irony.

"Don't listen to online opinions.....

....except for mine." :biggrin:

[Johnny_Luck]

And while I agree this shouldn't be Superman's book, it makes perfect sense he'd be making regular appearances. It should be like Batman's appearances in Robin or Nightwing. Obviously you don't have them without him, but he's not in every single issue, joining them on every single adventure.

You want to see her done right, read her appearances in The Brave & The Bold. That's a superpowered teen chafing under her cousin.

I disagree, its supergirl and there are god knows how titles both supergirl and superman appear in at the same time, let her have her own title and let their interaction happen elsewhere if it needs to.

One of the reasons why the first 18 issues were so great was because she knew she was better off not having superman around telling her how she should be acting or what she should be doing, which is what Puckett has stuck her with now.

Also Unless supergirls character became better after the trainwrecks that were barbie supergirl in Issue 2 and 40 year old looking coward biker chick supergirl in Issue 4 then I really don't think waids Brave and the Bold version was worth anyones time.

[WorstThingUS]

I disagree, its supergirl and there are god knows how titles both supergirl and superman appear in at the same time, let her have her own title and let their interaction happen elsewhere if it needs to.

One of the reasons why the first 18 issues were so great was because she knew she was better off not having superman around telling her how she should be acting or what she should be doing, which is what Puckett has stuck her with now.

Also Unless supergirls character became better after the trainwrecks that were barbie supergirl in Issue 2 and 40 year old looking coward biker chick supergirl in Issue 4 then I really don't think waids Brave and the Bold version was worth anyones time.

We'll have to agree to disagree here. I felt Super-Lindsay Lohan was awful and that the teenager in B&B was pretty good.

[Johnny_Luck]

We'll have to agree to disagree here. I felt Super-Lindsay Lohan was awful and that the teenager in B&B was pretty good.

Except in B&B the bold at least in the issues I read supergirl never acted like and was portrayed as a teenager. In 2 she was portrayed as a dumb blonde who acted at best 12 and wanted to more a barbie than a superhero.

Then 2 issues later she went from being a 12 year old barbie to a 40 year old curly haired biker chick who wanted to be bad ass but just couldn't let herself do it.


At least in the first 16-18 issues of supergirl she acted like a 17/18 year old in her position would IMHO.

but yeah I think we gonna have to just agree to disagree.

[WorstThingUS]

Except in B&B the bold at least in the issues I read supergirl never acted like and was portrayed as a teenager. In 2 she was portrayed as a dumb blonde who acted at best 12 and wanted to more a barbie than a superhero.

Then 2 issues later she went from being a 12 year old barbie to a 40 year old curly haired biker chick who wanted to be bad ass but just couldn't let herself do it.


At least in the first 16-18 issues of supergirl she acted like a 17/18 year old in her position would IMHO.

but yeah I think we gonna have to just agree to disagree.

See, I'm more accepting of Supergirl as a silly teenager than I am a club-hopper hanging with Boomerang Jr. But neither is really dealing with how a teenager would react losing her entire civilization and winding up with one relative left in the universe who's almost worshipped like a god and some of that transfers over to her. Unless Krypton society is exactly like Earth's she's an alien in every sense of the world. She should have been Kryptonian in ways Superman didn't understand and may not even have liked. And if Saturn Queen did give her information on Argo City in the first story arc (which, as I said, seems to have been retconned away), none of the stories that followed should even have happened. She should have been looking for Kryptonian survivors, period.

It's just a question of which "wrong" you like. I prefer upbeat. You prefer dark.

[sweety]

Actually Dc Comics are good comics.Super girl is a different from others.The Quest for Supergirl is really a interesting.Super girl powers are imaging.When she met and fall in love with era's superman That scene is very interesting.

[ToxicTeen]

I enjoyed the Batman/Superman "Supergirl" arc and the first three arcs of the current Supergirl(Power,Candor, and Identity). After Joe Kelly' run on Supergirl, I just dropped since I felt the book wasn't going in any direction. :redface:

[Kid Kamikaze10]

Actually Dc Comics are good comics.Super girl is a different from others.The Quest for Supergirl is really a interesting.Super girl powers are imaging.When she met and fall in love with era's superman That scene is very interesting.

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Uh.... What?

[Cicero]

I really liked the title until she came back from Kandor. Ever since, though, it's been increasingly boring (though the Batgirl fight was kind of neat, drugged Cassandra Cain aside). I keep hoping for someone to really take off with the character, but so far, no dice.