Incredible Herc #117 *spoilers*

[CaptainCanada]

We open with a prologue where Urania, the muse of prophecy, discovers the truth of the Skrull invasion, which explains how Athena knows. Big A further explains that she, in her mortal disguise as an Atlas Corporation security consultant, tracked down a Skrull and killed it, and now has warned all the other Gods. The Skrull situation concerns them all because:

A) The Skrulls conquering Earth will lead to...
B) A power shift in the cosmos where the Earth gods will not be needed, leading to...
C) Demogorge the God-Eater eating them all.

Ergo, Athena proposes that they sent an army to kill the Skrull Gods, Kly'bn the Eternal Skrull and Sl'gur't of the Infinite Names. Herc, Athena says, will lead the army.

Herc is not happy about this, and kicks over a tree; Athena covers and says he's just anxious to kill some Skrulls.

Hodiak, the Inuit Skyfather, volunteers Snowbird; flashback intro shows Snowbird beating up Michael Pointer/Guardian, since he killed everyone; she tells that her marriage is over, Alpha Flight is dead, and until the Great Beasts return, she has little interest in the human world. Hodiak then appears and tells her she is needed (apparently Athena let everyone know in advance so that they can have their armies ready).

Back in the present, Herc is still freaking out, complaining about Athena manipulating him and not saying anything; Cho says it's not like he's never done this before; Herc says it's exactly like that: he was never the leader; real leaders inspire (Captain America) or "sweet-talk gold out of its luster" (Jason). Herc tries to get Amadeus to leave, saying Athena must have some plan for him, but he refuses.

The Incan Skyfather, on behalf of the Aztec/Mayan/Incan grouping, volunteers Ajak/Tecumotzin; flashback shows Ajak was working as a gardener before the Southern gods approached him, and agreed because he hopes to gain knowledge of the Celestials and their ways (since the Skrulls are the Deviant branch of their race, who killed the Eternal strain), to spite Makkari, who has usurped his place as interlocutor with the Dreaming Celestial.

The Japanese Skyfather, Izanagi-no-Mikoto, volunteers Amatsu-Mikaboshi (who is brought in chains), because he is a skilled shapeshifter, which would be useful. Herc and Athena are both very dubious (Athena's expression is priceless), Herc to the extent that he decides to thrash Amatsu instead. Ajak tries to stop Herc, but Herc punches him out; Snowbird steps in, and they spar briefly; she matches his moves, and he stops to compliment her, mentioning the time they fought Attuma together; Narya says he is still skilled, "the fact..heartens me." While they're talking, Mikaboshi has gotten up again and jumps at them; Ajak blasts him, and Amatsu falls on Snowbird. Herc grapples with Ajak while Snowbird (polar bear form) fights Amatsu.

Suddenly, Demogorge arrives, cackling at the gods squabbling amongst themselves. He reverts to his Atum form, and says he is here at the request of his son Horus; he uses a really, really awesome shepherd analogy to describe his reason for agreeing.

Altjira, the Australian Skyfather, volunteers a magic ship that will take them where they need to go, although he had been expecting a bigger complement; Athena agrees and complains that five guys isn't exactly what she had in mind. Anansi, the Spider-God from Africa (thank you, Gargoyles!), says that no one trusts Athena, since they assume she's got some other plan in the works, such as trying to seize on of their kingdoms for the Greeks while they're at the wars. He further wonders why they haven't brought the Asgardians in on this; Athena says the whole Ragnarok situation means she doesn't trust them; Anansi dismisses this, and says that Thor would make a superior leader for the team; Herc is annoyed at this, and jumps on the ship, saying that he will lead. Everybody else follows, but even as the ship starts to enter the Dreamtime (the realm it travels through), a Skrull invasion fleet arrives, headed for San Francisco. Herc wants to go back and fight them, but Athena (now, like all the other gods, a starry head) says it's too late. As she fades away, Athena warns Amadeus that Urania made a second prophecy: the gods' efforts will fail, unless Cho, when Herc is at his weakest, does the hardest thing he has ever had to do. Athena vanishes, leaving Cho wondering what that means.

Amatsu asks Hercules if Athena's eyes have always been green.

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Well, various people who wondered about Athena's eye colour were right, insofar as it was deliberate; seriously, though, if that actually means anything, it is quite possibly the most retarded plot point ever ("They're totally undetectable! Except if their eyes aren't supposed to be green; if that's the case, they're undetectable by morons!"). Given how early it was raised, and that it's Amatsu who raises it, I imagine it's misdirection.

We got very effective introductions to everyone in the group, and Pak and VL even cover various fan nits (the size of the group, Thor's absence).

Sandoval's art is just wonderful.

[CMBMOOL]

Well this issues makes me happy, that it finally explains just why Snowbird isn't in Omega Flight. :tongue:

Also it seems that there is a traitor within this new God squad mist,makes things even a bit more exciting.

I can't wait to see what happens next and how will this team fare with each other. :tongue:

Also it was nice of Herc to reconigze the leaders that he stood by with over the years and comparing them to him being a leader makes me feel kind of sorry that he's in this position. :frown:

Still bring on the next issue. :biggrin:

[dkostus]

Captain Canada,

Thanks for the great review! BTW, I told you the green-eyed Athena thing might be an issue/clue... :smile:

[Splatt]

I haven't read the issue, but the whole "Green eyes must mean he/she's a skrull" plot point is fucking retarded. If they can perfectly copy humans why wouldn't they be able to copy their eye pigments or put some contact lenses.

[dkostus]

I'll agree it's a stupid plot-point as well ...maybe they are just bringing it up to explain why she's been done with green eyes before, rather than the grey-eyes of myth.

[drwho]

This issue was awesome and all the characters look great. Some of the dialogue of Hercules seems odd to me not enough to pout about. I would hate the fact if Athena was a skrull. I am kind of curious though because the gods said she was hiding something she was wearing. Also getting rid of Hercules during the main battle may have been a Skrull plan. I sure hope that Athena hasn't be a skrull since she arrived and that that was just a statement from Mikobishi to piss them off. Also why couldn't Athena have gone with them.

[PatchMadripoor]

I'll agree it's a stupid plot-point as well ...maybe they are just bringing it up to explain why she's been done with green eyes before, rather than the grey-eyes of myth.

Agreed. Athena's grey-steel eyes of lore have helped Odysseus of myth in the past. Green eye would be a give-away that something is up.

[Yaw]

This issue was awesome and all the characters look great. Some of the dialogue of Hercules seems odd to me not enough to pout about. I would hate the fact if Athena was a skrull. I am kind of curious though because the gods said she was hiding something she was wearing. Also getting rid of Hercules during the main battle may have been a Skrull plan. I sure hope that Athena hasn't be a skrull since she arrived and that that was just a statement from Mikobishi to piss them off. Also why couldn't Athena have gone with them.

No it was just an analogy. he was saying that she is "weaving" something as in a plot that she isn't exposing just yet. It was fitting on two accounts.

1) She is the goddess of weaving and crafts.
2) Anansi said it to her and he is the Akan trickster god of knowledge. He is represented as a spider and thus is also known for "weaving" or crafting plots. So they are two birds of a feather of sorts.

[Drdmx]

Oh snap~~

I sooooo called the Big A's eyes being green!!!! Dzamn!~

[Will.S]

Sandoval's art is just wonderful.
Ehh, Sandoval's art is too generic for my tastes. Especially with the current coloring, I wished Khoi was still drawing this book instead of MA even though I dig what he's doing there.

The issue itself was a very fun Secret Invasion tie in and I really liked seeing all the gods pick their representatives. I liked all of their intro's but I was especially anticipating the Mikaboshi/Hercules throw down. I also liked how Pak/Van Lente showed Ajak having a slight bit of jealosy about the Celestials speaking to Makkari now instead of him. Great use of Atum and Snowbird as well.

The only thing that stands out to me about the skrull pantheon is that there's only 2 of them? All 5 of these gods vs 2 dudes? Seems like overkill unless these guys are insanely powerful but then again there's the implication that Athena is another skrull god in disguise.

Looking forward to the next issue and to see the rest of the invasion play out while they're helpless on that ship.

8.5/10

[Karthak]

The only thing that stands out to me about the skrull pantheon is that there's only 2 of them? All 5 of these gods vs 2 dudes? Seems like overkill unless these guys are insanely powerful but then again there's the implication that Athena is another skrull god in disguise.

8.5/10
There might be only two skrull gods, but the skrulls have subjugated countless species over the years, which means that they will have hundreds of divine slaves as cannonfodder to throw at Herc...

[dkostus]

There might be only two skrull gods, but the skrulls have subjugated countless species over the years, which means that they will have hundreds of divine slaves as cannonfodder to throw at Herc...

Yeah... I imagine it will be the equivelant of the Greeks having conquered the world, and Zues and Hera therefore having the right to subjugate all the other gods we saw here to their will...


...as to the art, I personally thought it was great and think that Athena's facial expressions in this issue were priceless. The scene where they introduce Mikaboshi, she looks completely exasperated.

If she, or anyone, was putting this together as a skrull plot, I imagine they'd be pretty pissed to see Demogorge show up... All the cannon fodder gods the skrulls can throw at him will only make him stronger as he literally eats them...

[Seraku]

So which of the skrull gods is the empress and which on is the emperor? The power skrull or the thing with arms for heads?

[Expletive Deleted]

According to Van Lente (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=12995):
*Notes on Skrull Religion*

IN GENERAL, Skrull religion is based on community versus the individual, directly based on a shape shifting society. When you can shift your shape, you don't rely on your individuality, but the community and your place it in, and how you can support the hive becomes more important.

This principle is expressed in Skrull mythology through two complimentary but diametrically opposite gods, husband and wife, brother and sister, Kly'bn and Sl'gur't.

Kly'bn (Translation: "Eternal Skrull")

*This Skrull deity cannot shapeshift, and is rather the idealized personification of essential 'Skrullness' --the Skrull inside every Skrull, regardless of what form he or she takes.

Though mostly created out of whole cloth for 'Incredible Hercules', the name comes from a song/orchestral piece the Skrullos Imperial Marching Band wanted to play at Karolina and Xavin's wedding in 'Runaways'. The song, we're suggesting, is an invocation to the Eternal Skrull for a happy (and eternal!) union.

*Sl'gur't (Translation: 'The Infinite Names')*

This is the Skrull god of transformations -- both, literally, as shape-shifting, and in societal upheavals, such as war – frequently referred to by non-Skrulls as the 'Skrull War God,' which is not entirely accurate.

Sl'gur't, befitting his/her/its nature, has no fixed form, and keeps shifting shape in every panel we see it in, just surrounded always by a thin white corona. When Skrull artists have to depict him/her/it in a fixed form (as a painting, statue, or idol), it's usually as a multi-limbed, headless Skrull; see:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/slgurtskrullwargod.htm

Since this is the god(dess) of shapeshifting, Sl'gur't's gender is basically irrelevant here, but she is most frequently thought of as female and Kly'bn's sister and wife. The two live together in a double-headed pyramid floating in the center of space surrounded by the ruins of defeated pantheons of alien gods the Skrulls have conquered over the eons.

We didn't make this god up, he/she/it first appeared in 'Fantastic Four Annual #24,' and is also referenced in the 'Annihilation: Super-Skrull' series. There, S.S. says she was spawned on the planet Zaragz'na, the ancient Skrull capital destroyed by the Annihilation Wave.

[dkostus]

So which of the skrull gods is the empress and which on is the emperor? The power skrull or the thing with arms for heads?

Well, I'm only guessing, but Kly'Bn is described as "the Eternal Skrull," and he looks like a male representation and is sitting on a throne. Thus he's the "emperor." I also think that as the "eternal skrull" he represents the non shape-shifted skrull form and embodies what a skrull truly is.

Sl'Gurt "of the infinite names" looks to have breasts and be feminine in nature. If I had to guess I'd say she represents the changeling nature of a skrull and is never static in her form or something like that.

[Will.S]

There might be only two skrull gods, but the skrulls have subjugated countless species over the years, which means that they will have hundreds of divine slaves as cannonfodder to throw at Herc...
I suppose but I can't see his "God Squad" having much trouble with skrull fodder. For some reason I just don't see what type of danger the skrull gods would pose when the odds are so stacked against them but we'll see.

According to Van Lente (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=12995):
Nice back story.

It's also cool to see that one of them was already a pre-existing character.

[desanth]

I don't read this comic, but I glimpsed over it and its interesting, moreso than some other comics. Not bad, might reasd the next issue that comes out.

[XPac]

I suppose but I can't see his "God Squad" having much trouble with skrull fodder. For some reason I just don't see what type of danger the skrull gods would pose when the odds are so stacked against them but we'll see.


Nice back story.

It's also cool to see that one of them was already a pre-existing character.

With a god eater on the team, it does seem pretty hard to imagine that these Skrull gods are going to be that much of a threat. Demogorge can tackle elder gods. If these skrull gods are that powerful, then people like Hercules and Snowbird will be relatively useless.

It'll be interesting to see how they balance that.

[Alphaxman]

I can’t remember if it just a DC thing or both but I think the gods were only as strong as how much worshiper they have. If that’s the case the Skrulls have billions of billions of conquered worlds to feed the gods. That why I’m glad the God-Eater is with them, but I do wish more gods were going. I just reread some of Thor’s old issues from the late 80’s and Celtic god Leir would have been a good replacement for Thor.

[CaptainCanada]

Strictly speaking, if Gaea can make a God-Eater, than the Skrull gods should theoretically be able to as well.

I have Demogorge singled out for the "dead God" role, going by the solicit for #119; they're betrayed by whoever (Mikaboshi, I'm guessing), surrounded by hordes of slave deities, and Demogorge is powerful enough to do the big blaze of glory distraction while the others slip past and get through to the main baddies' location.

[Joe Acro]

According to Van Lente (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=12995):
Oh, now that's cool. They didn't entirely come out of left field. Neat.

Athena being a Skrull is unfortunate, as I was liking the character, but it was predictable.

Overall, though, I like the issue. It seems Hercules is now on a fool's errand, presumably to be left stranded in space. He fights the Initiative in the first arc. Now he might get stranded on an alien world.

It's kind of looking like Hulk's story backward.

[Lunal]

Good issue, though I am concerned that the God-Eater guy is a Deus Ex Machina. Why can't he just kill the Skrull Gods all by himself?

[Psyco panda]

Theory here: What if Athena isn't a skrull / skrull god, but in fact Loki?

Haven't read the issue yet, but it sounds like it may be.

Green is Loki's color too, so hence the green eyes.

Athena did not want Thor or the other Asgardians involved, who might have been able to recognize her.

Loki is now a woman. (not a big thing, since he appeared in female guises as a man, but something.)

If anybody could have detected the secret invasion coming, it would be the trickster god.

Though we know Thor will be involved in the main SI series, its unlikely Loki would be too. So this gets an Asgardian involved, because really, there should be one.

So Loki might be impersonating Athena in order to lead the gods greatest champions into a trap, and Shes the one betraying them. Or else she found out about the invasion, realized no one would believe Loki, so he replaced Athena, whom the others would listen too. In which case i'm still betting shes the one to betray the team, just in order to further some devious plan to defeat the skrull gods.

Also, wouldn't it be awesome to see Herc hit on the female Loki before finding out who she really is? That would be one awkward morning after.

[Drdmx]

Hmmm a good theory to be sure. I might have to agree with Mr. Panda.

[trickster]

Theory here: What if Athena isn't a skrull / skrull god, but in fact Loki?

Haven't read the issue yet, but it sounds like it may be.

Green is Loki's color too, so hence the green eyes.

Athena did not want Thor or the other Asgardians involved, who might have been able to recognize her.

Loki is now a woman. (not a big thing, since he appeared in female guises as a man, but something.)

If anybody could have detected the secret invasion coming, it would be the trickster god.

Though we know Thor will be involved in the main SI series, its unlikely Loki would be too. So this gets an Asgardian involved, because really, there should be one.

So Loki might be impersonating Athena in order to lead the gods greatest champions into a trap, and Shes the one betraying them. Or else she found out about the invasion, realized no one would believe Loki, so he replaced Athena, whom the others would listen too. In which case i'm still betting shes the one to betray the team, just in order to further some devious plan to defeat the skrull gods.

Also, wouldn't it be awesome to see Herc hit on the female Loki before finding out who she really is? That would be one awkward morning after.
Good one. I wonder what Loki does with Doom, though.

[bluedmighty]

Theory here: What if Athena isn't a skrull / skrull god, but in fact Loki?

Haven't read the issue yet, but it sounds like it may be.

Green is Loki's color too, so hence the green eyes.

Athena did not want Thor or the other Asgardians involved, who might have been able to recognize her.

Loki is now a woman. (not a big thing, since he appeared in female guises as a man, but something.)

If anybody could have detected the secret invasion coming, it would be the trickster god.

Though we know Thor will be involved in the main SI series, its unlikely Loki would be too. So this gets an Asgardian involved, because really, there should be one.

So Loki might be impersonating Athena in order to lead the gods greatest champions into a trap, and Shes the one betraying them. Or else she found out about the invasion, realized no one would believe Loki, so he replaced Athena, whom the others would listen too. In which case i'm still betting shes the one to betray the team, just in order to further some devious plan to defeat the skrull gods.

Also, wouldn't it be awesome to see Herc hit on the female Loki before finding out who she really is? That would be one awkward morning after.

INTERESTING :evilsmile:

[CaptainCanada]

Athena being a Skrull is unfortunate, as I was liking the character, but it was predictable.
Uh, it isn't confirmed yet; it's just speculation (by a character who probably has an agenda).

Regarding Loki, that's an interesting idea, but Loki will be in Thor's SI tie-in miniseries.

[PatchMadripoor]

Uh, it isn't confirmed yet; it's just speculation (by a character who probably has an agenda).

Regarding Loki, that's an interesting idea, but Loki will be in Thor's SI tie-in miniseries.

Are we sure Loki will be in it?

[Venom Melendez]

Theory here: What if Athena isn't a skrull / skrull god, but in fact Loki?

Haven't read the issue yet, but it sounds like it may be.

Green is Loki's color too, so hence the green eyes.

Athena did not want Thor or the other Asgardians involved, who might have been able to recognize her.

Loki is now a woman. (not a big thing, since he appeared in female guises as a man, but something.)

If anybody could have detected the secret invasion coming, it would be the trickster god.

Though we know Thor will be involved in the main SI series, its unlikely Loki would be too. So this gets an Asgardian involved, because really, there should be one.

So Loki might be impersonating Athena in order to lead the gods greatest champions into a trap, and Shes the one betraying them. Or else she found out about the invasion, realized no one would believe Loki, so he replaced Athena, whom the others would listen too. In which case i'm still betting shes the one to betray the team, just in order to further some devious plan to defeat the skrull gods.

Also, wouldn't it be awesome to see Herc hit on the female Loki before finding out who she really is? That would be one awkward morning after.


That's a good theory and a great idea.

But i think he's to busy over Thor's book. I did love how angry Herc god when someone said that Thor would be a better leader.

[CaptainCanada]

Are we sure Loki will be in it?
Fraction's initial interview talked about how Loki would find there was no prospect of negotiating a side-deal or any such thing, and so she would have to stand should-to-shoulder with Thor this time.

[mikekerr3]

Do we know green eyes mean anything, or is that just an assumption?

[Rahul]

I just wish Hanuman or some other Hindu DemiGod could appear in the God Squad....But other than that nice ish, only the art could be a bit more impressive.

[scouse mouse]

This was my first issue of Hercules and I really enjoyed it; all the members of the God Squad were cool, especially Snowbird. I thought the artwork was good as well, reminiscent of Quesada's style. If it carries on being enjoyable I may consider continuing with this book after SI. (Watch it go down hill now I said i like it.)

[CaptainCanada]

Do we know green eyes mean anything, or is that just an assumption?
Just an assumption by many people.

[Tobias Drake]

Do we know green eyes mean anything, or is that just an assumption?

We don't know it means anything at all, though it was directly called out by a character in Incredible Hercules. The writers are making vocal mention of it, which still doesn't confirm anything, but Chekhov's trigger finger is definitely starting to get itchy.

[Drdmx]

Personally I like the dramatic appeal of using green eyes as an indicator.

Especially towards the end of a scene where maybe a big decision has been made, or a course of action taken. It'd be like Tony Stark telling Dugan about the Doomsday plan in Manhattan, and then Dugan walking away, smiling at the panel with sinister green eyes. I think that's just awesome.

[mikekerr3]

We don't know it means anything at all, though it was directly called out by a character in Incredible Hercules. The writers are making vocal mention of it, which still doesn't confirm anything, but Chekhov's trigger finger is definitely starting to get itchy.

The problem is I dom't know if the trigger is going to be pulled or the chain yanked. Green eyes are just too easy.

[Cthulhudrew]

Do we know green eyes mean anything, or is that just an assumption?

I really hope it doesn't mean anything. It would be incredibly silly if the skrulls had managed to find a means to disguise themselves from all manner of detection, but couldn't use their innate shapeshifting to change their eye color.

[Tobias Drake]

Personally I like the dramatic appeal of using green eyes as an indicator.

Especially towards the end of a scene where maybe a big decision has been made, or a course of action taken. It'd be like Tony Stark telling Dugan about the Doomsday plan in Manhattan, and then Dugan walking away, smiling at the panel with sinister green eyes. I think that's just awesome.

Personally, I don't. These Skrulls are smart, they know what they're doing. To have any sort of visually obvious tell that says, "Yes, THAT is a Skrull in disguise," would be blatantly stupid on their part. They've gone to so much trouble to get the roles right and to be unidentifiable that mistaking the color of someone's eyes would just be a horrible failure. It'd be like the Red Hulk being a Skrull who's color-blind.

The Skrulls should not be easily identifiable. They should fill their roles and be indistinguishable from the people they're playing. They should be physically accurate right down to the minutest details. They're an entire race of secret infiltration agents; they should be GOOD at this. If Joe Comic Reader can tell, "Oh, that's a Skrull," then there's no excuse why the smartest people in the MU cannot.

[CaptainCanada]

That's my problem if it actually means anything; the Skrulls are no longer totally undetectable, they're only undetectable if people act stupid (and it's never been the case before with even supposedly less-advanced shapeshifting).

[Drdmx]

My statement's more towards dramatics for the reader to see green eyes indicating a skrull making an impactful move on whatever situation. Regardless of whatever turns out to be the deal with Athena (which I'm sure is a lure to the reader), I dont think anyone is advocating that the all encompassing secret to detecting Skrulls is look them in the eye. Something tells me it wouldn't take Reed Richards to discover that. C'mon..... jeez.

[Pyro]

Wow, this was an intense issue! Pak and Van Lente are just diving right into all the mythology/religion/continuity of everything. I thought they did a good job in their exposition; I never felt too confused or bored, though I would like to know more about all the gods that were gathered and introduced.

I was surprised to see an Eternal as the South American god and the explanation that Skrulls are Deviants.

I didn't really understand why Atum is helping them. Wouldn't he want all the Earth gods to be destroyed so he can eat them? And did he really create the Egyptian gods? I had no idea Egyptian mythology sprung from Greek mythology.

[Kutulu]

My statement's more towards dramatics for the reader to see green eyes indicating a skrull making an impactful move on whatever situation. Regardless of whatever turns out to be the deal with Athena (which I'm sure is a lure to the reader), I dont think anyone is advocating that the all encompassing secret to detecting Skrulls is look them in the eye. Something tells me it wouldn't take Reed Richards to discover that. C'mon..... jeez.

^^ Exactly, they needed some way to show the reader that trickery was involved. This by no means indicates that every Skrull will have green eyes or anything like that; heck for all we know maybe the green eyes were seen due to godly senses that a mortal could not detect, etc..

[CaptainCanada]

I didn't really understand why Atum is helping them. Wouldn't he want all the Earth gods to be destroyed so he can eat them?
He thinks there's no chance of success, so he's helping because his son asked, and that's what a shepherd does before he eats his flock.

And did he really create the Egyptian gods? I had no idea Egyptian mythology sprung from Greek mythology.
He is said to be the first of their number, but Atum is a Greek-based god; he's the son/creation of Gaea, who's the spirit of the Earth in every pantheon.

[Gnarl]

I just wish Hanuman or some other Hindu DemiGod could appear in the God Squad....But other than that nice ish, only the art could be a bit more impressive.

Given that Hinduism is an active religon with maybe a billion worshippers, I see that happening about the same time as they show Thor beating Jesus up.

I think they still cringe about their previously showing them.

[Mike Smash!]

Given that Hinduism is an active religon with maybe a billion worshippers, I see that happening about the same time as they show Thor beating Jesus up.

I think they still cringe about their previously showing them.Though I have to admit that Scientology's Xenu would make a great Avengers villain. :)

[Kutulu]

Though I have to admit that Scientology's Xenu would make a great Avengers villain. :)

http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/42012/2004541705269410645_rs.jpg

[Pyro]

He thinks there's no chance of success, so he's helping because his son asked, and that's what a shepherd does before he eats his flock.Thanks Captain Canada. :smile:
He is said to be the first of their number, but Atum is a Greek-based god; he's the son/creation of Gaea, who's the spirit of the Earth in every pantheon.Wait, is this Marvel mythology or real-world mythology? I thought the Egyptians had Geb who was a Father Earth instead of a Mother Earth.:confused:

[Flâneur]

Thanks Captain Canada. :smile:
Wait, is this Marvel mythology or real-world mythology? I thought the Egyptians had Geb who was a Father Earth instead of a Mother Earth.:confused:

MU mythology. Grecian and Egyptian mythology don't cross-polinate until much later in our world.

[Pyro]

MU mythology. Grecian and Egyptian mythology don't cross-polinate until much later in our world.
Ah, thanks, Flanny!

[beetheb]

http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/42012/2004541705269410645_rs.jpgOh, that's classic.

[Cthulhudrew]

I was surprised to see an Eternal as the South American god and the explanation that Skrulls are Deviants.

I forget where, but it was established long, long ago that the skrulls were their planet's Deviant race. They've never shown what happened to the skrull Eternals and Normals (though I think they've explained that the Deviants simply replaced them all- presumably through being more adaptable, due to their Deviant genes endowing them with shapeshifting ability, as opposed to the Earth Deviants who are simply deformed in various ways- though never the same. I speculate its their reptilian nature- or perhaps their strange mammalian/reptilian mix- that is responsible for the variation. Again, though, not ever really explained.)

[Kutulu]

I forget where, but it was established long, long ago that the skrulls were their planet's Deviant race. They've never shown what happened to the skrull Eternals and Normals (though I think they've explained that the Deviants simply replaced them all- presumably through being more adaptable, due to their Deviant genes endowing them with shapeshifting ability, as opposed to the Earth Deviants who are simply deformed in various ways- though never the same. I speculate its their reptilian nature- or perhaps their strange mammalian/reptilian mix- that is responsible for the variation. Again, though, not ever really explained.)

The Skrull Eternals were killed off, as well as the human equivalent.

[Rahul]

Being a Hindu , that was reactionary, wistful thinking on my part( "Man I wish they were there" upon seeing the assembly of the other gods), I wouldnt have said this if the Hercules creative team wasnt any good at portraying god like figures.

I too dont want an incident of Thor beating up Lord Shiva(who was later retconned into being Indra, a lesser DemiGod, and also our own God Of Thunder!).

[jackolover]

We open with a prologue where Urania, the muse of prophecy, discovers the truth of the Skrull invasion, which explains how Athena knows. Big A further explains that she, in her mortal disguise as an Atlas Corporation security consultant, tracked down a Skrull and killed it, and now has warned all the other Gods. .

Is it anywhere described that Athena was ever at Atlas Corp doing security? Because it would have been nice to see Athena detect Skrulls, when they were undetectable.

And seeing that this Urania prophetess saw Skrulls as far as the eye can see, was this a veritable clue that some sort of Skrull invasion was coming, or, did Athena just put two and two together? I would have liked to see the end of this prologue, or did she just wake up when the God-eater showed up?

Pak could have done this as a survival story of the Gods, with threats of Skrull proportions attacking the plethora of Gods', instead of Athena pre-empting a threat to the Gods' existence. Just like Asgard, just have demons attacking the Gods and the the Gods have to fight for their lives.