Peter David's She Hulk...will it survive?

[Winghead]

I really love all of his stuff. and his first few issues of She Hulk are no exception. I never read the title before but I picked it up when I saw that he was the new writer. I notice the sales are the lowest ever which surprises me because he is doing so well with X Factor, Dark Tower, etc. Do you think he will pick the series up, or do you expect a cancellation announcement soon?

[XPac]

Honestly I was afraid the book would get cancelled since Dan Slott left the book. I think a big part of the appeal of the book was the fun humorous take Slott had on the character. Davids book has a very different vibe.

Hopefully the book will ge fine. I'll admit I personally haven't liked it as much as Slott's book at least so far.

[Nyssane]

I think it'll get a major push with the Secret Invasion crossover with X-Factor, plus the hot new artist who's starting up.

[Dr. Chaos]

The fact that the book now feels like just another superhero comic aside, I doubt it.

As great as the character can be under a writer that gets her, unfortunately it probably won't survive, regardless of if David or Slott are writing it or not.

[XPac]

The fact that the book now feels like just another superhero comic aside, I doubt it.

As great as the character can be under a writer that gets her, unfortunately it probably won't survive, regardless of if David or Slott are writing it or not.

Yeah... it really does feel like just another superhero book now. Not a bad one, but it doesn't quite stand out as much.

In the Civil War landscape, marvel became such a more serious realistic place. The light humor of the She-Hulk book really made it stand out. Now it sort of feels like every other book on the rack.

[Mark_S]

I like it, the way that PD decided to ditch the whole Jen gets back at Tony in court thing bugged me but the stories have been solid. It's one of the few marvels I'll pick up. I'm not sure if they'd cancel it, but marvel does seem to be reveling in the complete lack of hope and full on cynicism that is the post cw mu, and Jen has been more of a lighthearted book.
I can't see any reason why they'd cancel it and keep Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk is a better title and marvel was reportedly trying to get some female character out front and center to compete with Wonder Woman.

Mark_S

[CMBMOOL]

Come on,

THis is Peter Daivd we're talking about, he made the Hulk look okay during the 90s.

I mean this is the man who wrote both the Hulk and X-factor and various other Marvel and DC titles, so he can't be anything wrong for the She-Hulk.:tongue:

[The Shadow]

I've been enjoying the hell outa this book... both under Slott and PAD.

I'll be here for the duration. I wish more people would give it a try... I don't think there's enough diversification on the shelves and if lower selling books like She-Hulk get canceled all we get is yet another Spider-Man or X-Men book.

X-Factor, She-Hulk and Iron Fist are some books that should sell much better than they do.

[Winghead]

X Factor sells very well considering the characters are not A listers. It is pretty consistent with around 50K a month and outsells many other titles including Daredevil and Iron Man

[Lester C.]

Peter David is finally a hot comic book writer, which boggles the mind it's taken this long considering that he’s been a best selling author for many years. Sure you have people like me upset with the change of direction and have left the book, but hopefully you should see a lot of people from Dark Tower and X-Factor come on over, so much so you should have many more new reading jumping on board compared to the old ones leaving.

[boshobosho]

X Factor sells very well considering the characters are not A listers. It is pretty consistent with around 50K a month and outsells many other titles including Daredevil and Iron Man

Though I've heard X-Factor is a good book, I'll point out there are sycophants who will buy anything with an X in the title.
It's also sad Marvel feels they need to have a "heroine to compete with Wonder Woman." DC calls her one of the big three, and she's fine in the JLA book, but her solo series is terrible.
I really hope this book does not get canceled. I will be the first to admit I did not like PAD's first two or three issues all that much, but I have now come around to enjoy his run quite a lot so far.
Maybe books should not be all about numbers because the comic fan is hard to pin down. You get a lot of comic snobs who wouldn't touch a super hero book. There's people who only buy DC, people who only buy X-books. Well there's a niche for people who love She-Hulk, perhaps they're not legion, but if a little better work got done for her, maybe they would be. Her solo title is good, but if I didn't read that and only saw her when she shows up in other titles I'd think she sort of sucked.
I still like this idea, let Frank Cho draw some Shulkie, that will draw people in.
Hell, if Frank could do something on time, Shulkie in Liberty Meadows could be a riot!

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

Though I've heard X-Factor is a good book, I'll point out there are sycophants who will buy anything with an X in the title.
It's also sad Marvel feels they need to have a "heroine to compete with Wonder Woman." DC calls her one of the big three, and she's fine in the JLA book, but her solo series is terrible.
I really hope this book does not get canceled. I will be the first to admit I did not like PAD's first two or three issues all that much, but I have now come around to enjoy his run quite a lot so far.
Maybe books should not be all about numbers because the comic fan is hard to pin down. You get a lot of comic snobs who wouldn't touch a super hero book. There's people who only buy DC, people who only buy X-books. Well there's a niche for people who love She-Hulk, perhaps they're not legion, but if a little better work got done for her, maybe they would be. Her solo title is good, but if I didn't read that and only saw her when she shows up in other titles I'd think she sort of sucked.
I still like this idea, let Frank Cho draw some Shulkie, that will draw people in.
Hell, if Frank could do something on time, Shulkie in Liberty Meadows could be a riot!

X-Factor is definitely the best X book out there right now. Back on topic, I hope She-Hulk isn''t canned, one less Peter David book would be a travesty... mind you, it would free him up to have a go at writing Deadpool!:cool:

[Hypestyle]

hopefully Jen will become more violent to her enemies, considering all that she has been through in recent years.. I want more of a Savage She Hulk again... much less of the comedy...

[Venom Melendez]

Yeah... it really does feel like just another superhero book now. Not a bad one, but it doesn't quite stand out as much.

In the Civil War landscape, marvel became such a more serious realistic place. The light humor of the She-Hulk book really made it stand out. Now it sort of feels like every other book on the rack.


That what's Deadpool's for. Besides, PAD writes his own style and Slott has his.

I like PAD's take better anyway and it's doing fine so hey.

[Lester C.]

Though I've heard X-Factor is a good book, I'll point out there are sycophants who will buy anything with an X in the title.
It's also sad Marvel feels they need to have a "heroine to compete with Wonder Woman." DC calls her one of the big three, and she's fine in the JLA book, but her solo series is terrible.
I really hope this book does not get canceled. I will be the first to admit I did not like PAD's first two or three issues all that much, but I have now come around to enjoy his run quite a lot so far.
Maybe books should not be all about numbers because the comic fan is hard to pin down. You get a lot of comic snobs who wouldn't touch a super hero book. There's people who only buy DC, people who only buy X-books. Well there's a niche for people who love She-Hulk, perhaps they're not legion, but if a little better work got done for her, maybe they would be. Her solo title is good, but if I didn't read that and only saw her when she shows up in other titles I'd think she sort of sucked.
I still like this idea, let Frank Cho draw some Shulkie, that will draw people in.
Hell, if Frank could do something on time, Shulkie in Liberty Meadows could be a riot!

In regard to your first sentece about the X titles that's just no true, Many new x books are launched each year, and very, very few of them go the distance. People like their x-men in teams, solo books are much harder sales.

[Mark_S]

Problem with many of the X-books is that they can be depressing. The mutants never really win, never gain ground in acceptence and are continually hunted. And they are the ultimate masochist since they still end up saving people. I can never understand why they keep fighting for people after the US government tried to kill them all. It just never made sense to me.

Mark_S

[Wind-Breaker]

I'm picking up the title BECAUSE David is writting it. I didn't have interest in the title prior to him coming aboard, but he made me find Hulk interesting back when he was writting it, and I never read Hulk prior to that. To sum it all up:

"In PAD we trust"

[I am MODOK]

I think PAD's run is getting better as it goes along. I wasn't sure I'd stick with it after the first few issues, but I think the addition of Val Semekis on art really helped. I'm hoping the new animated style art still works in the context of the story. I would like to see S-H take on more super-villains, though.

[Weapon Ick]

I don't think She-Hulk will be cancelled due to the fact that she is going to be a major player in the giant cross-over that is coming out in a year or two written by Dan Slott.

Peter David said that She-Hulk has the potential to become Marvel's flagship female. I like his vision for the character. I like that he takes her seriously. I support the direction he is taking the book. The X-factor and Secret Invasion are going to be a huge push in helping the title along it's way.

Some will say that it's impossible for a She-Hulk book to work on any level other than being humorous and goofy. People will say that She-Hulk is just too campy of a character to be taken seriously. But a few years ago the same could have been said about Spider-Woman and plenty of people did, in fact, say that about her. But Bendis and Marvel pushed her in to the spotlight practically shoving her down our throats and forcing us to pay attention to her. Bendis wrote some great stories for her and at this moment, she is the single most important character in the marvel universe.

She-Hulk can shine under PAD. She needs the hype that was given to Spider-Woman. PAD is a fantastic writer who can work miracles. He took one of the most hated characters in the MU (Layla Miller) and made her in to one of the most beloved. I have faith in title.

[Venom Melendez]

Problem with many of the X-books is that they can be depressing. The mutants never really win, never gain ground in acceptence and are continually hunted. And they are the ultimate masochist since they still end up saving people. I can never understand why they keep fighting for people after the US government tried to kill them all. It just never made sense to me.

Mark_S


I always figured it was to prove them wrong to show them they weren't bad.

Or to have the moral high ground.

[matthewaos]

I'm picking up the title BECAUSE David is writting it. I didn't have interest in the title prior to him coming aboard, but he made me find Hulk interesting back when he was writting it, and I never read Hulk prior to that. To sum it all up:

"In PAD we trust"

My words exactly.

[Dard]

If all the other PAD-runs I have collected are any indication, it will end up like this:

- It will continue for several more years, always struggling with medium low sales.
- Then an editorial mandate will push PAD off his title and order a "brand new direction" for its protagonists.
- Subsequent writer will either mess up the cast beyond recognition, introduce angst and despair, or outright ignore that it has ever existed.

[Drdmx]

I think it takes time to get a book going in the direction you want it. I dont think Marvel stuck PAD on Shulkie when they did and said "you better make sales in X amount of months or you're off!". PAD is an artist with his work and I think he's still laying some groundwork for what will be a nice She Hulk run when it's all said and done. Have some patience. The books heading in a brand new direction. Given PAD's history, he's typically not been one to dissapoint.

[matthewaos]

If all the other PAD-runs I have collected are any indication, it will end up like this:

- It will continue for several more years, always struggling with medium low sales.
- Then an editorial mandate will push PAD off his title and order a "brand new direction" for its protagonists.
- Subsequent writer will either mess up the cast beyond recognition, introduce angst and despair, or outright ignore that it has ever existed.

Captain Marvel did not end after several years and no one followed. I miss this book...

[Billy Parker]

She-Hulk rules right now, so it better not get cancelled.