Did the Civil War law pass?

[shadowzoid]

at the end of civil war, isnt the law passed? how come some superheroes still have their identity then but arent chased by the gov?

and is Marvel Zombies a good read?

ps, there was no where else to put this thread

[anomaly]

at the end of civil war, isnt the law passed? how come some superheroes still have their identity then but arent chased by the gov?

Uhhh... maybe because they're already registered? :rolleyes:

[Mark_S]

I don't think that the marvel writers really don't understand how laws work or how they are enforced. Look at any of the cw threads in the Avengers section and you'll see all of the arguments.

Mark_S

[Tobias Drake]

Most are registered. Those select few that are not do still encounter troubles with the law at times, though they have the advantage of Ms. Marvel doing a Face Heel Turn and going out of her way to make sure nobody gets arrested. I still think it's only a matter of time before this catches up with her.

[XPac]

Most are registered. Those select few that are not do still encounter troubles with the law at times, though they have the advantage of Ms. Marvel doing a Face Heel Turn and going out of her way to make sure nobody gets arrested. I still think it's only a matter of time before this catches up with her.

Honestly, I'm going to go the other way on that.

We know the NA won't be arrested and put in jail, and I don't think the MA can just go around trying and failing to arrest the NA over and over and over again. After a point it just starts making them look like fools, if they don't look that way already.

The only way both books can continue is if they just stop bothering to go after them and come to some sort of understanding.

Unless of course they decide they want Ms. Marvel to switch teams. In which case it probably makes sense that her actions might catch up to her and she leaves the team for the other one.

[Seraku]

The law passed some point between Civil War #2 and #3

[Magneto Rocks]

Actually, it was between #1 and #2 since Registration goes into effect at midnight in Civil War #2. (THis was also the time Iron Man showed horrendous prioritisation skills and went to take on a drunken Prodigy while delegating Luke Cage to SHIELD grunts.)

[Abrojo]

Yes as said already the law was passed. I dont think we have seen the effects much on the every single hero. They show it on a case by case, for example Johhny and Susan Storm we can assume registered and so on. Could be an interest project to track down who registered and who didnt just like ppl track initiative teams and stuff.

Actually, it was between #1 and #2 since Registration goes into effect at midnight in Civil War #2. (THis was also the time Iron Man showed horrendous prioritisation skills and went to take on a drunken Prodigy while delegating Luke Cage to SHIELD grunts.)

Sorry when does this Iron Man grabbing Prodigy happen? i heard it mentioned a couple of times but i cant seem to find it.

[shadowzoid]

so how come spiderman isnt being persued. we know that he is registered, but the government doest know his identity 9thanks to mysterious's eraes-marriage-thing.

[Magneto Rocks]

Sorry when does this Iron Man grabbing Prodigy happen? i heard it mentioned a couple of times but i cant seem to find it.

Frontline #2.

so how come spiderman isnt being persued. we know that he is registered, but the government doest know his identity 9thanks to mysterious's eraes-marriage-thing.

These days, pursuing heroes isn't a big priority, but we've seen the police try to bust him, as well as Jackpot and Blue Shield.

[shadowzoid]

ok, why is spiderman part of the prog and anti registration team (mighty avengers and new avengers)?

[Dorsai]

so how come spiderman isnt being persued. we know that he is registered, but the government doest know his identity 9thanks to mysterious's eraes-marriage-thing.

Actually, he is still being pursued. The Initiative went after him in its early issues but not so much because of registration but because of an irresponsible use of powers.

If I recall correctly, he unloaded all of his webbing on Iron Man and essentially put him in a cocoon. Stark didn't take that very well and he has been a persona non-gratis with SHIELD ever since he defected in Civil War.

Knowing or not knowing his identity won't really change his situation.

[Tobias Drake]

ok, why is spiderman part of the prog and anti registration team (mighty avengers and new avengers)?

Uh...because he's not? Spider-Man is only on the New Avengers and has no membership with the Mighty Avengers.

[XPac]

Frontline #2.



These days, pursuing heroes isn't a big priority, but we've seen the police try to bust him, as well as Jackpot and Blue Shield.

For reasons I'll never understand, Spidey still seems a priority.

We saw the Initiative try to take Peter down (possibly spending millions in tax payer dollars on those stupid darts). And we've seen the TBolts go after him in Invaders/Avengers. From the sound of things, the TBolts are going to try again in Amazing Spider-Man.

[Mark_S]

Do we know if the deal with Mephisto wiped out the part of cw where he did register?

Mark_S

[XPac]

Do we know if the deal with Mephisto wiped out the part of cw where he did register?

Mark_S

I believe various interviews have stated that Spidey did unmask in Civil War, but no one remembers who he was.

I think it might have been simpler to simply say the unmasking didn't happen, since there are all sorts of potential plot holes with the explanation they've given. Does Spidey even remember unmasking? If he does, is he wondering why no one else remembers? It's very confusing.

[carabas]

And we've seen the TBolts go after him in Invaders/Avengers. From the sound of things, the TBolts are going to try again in Amazing Spider-Man.Keep in mind who is running the thunderbolts these days.

[shadowzoid]

ya, i know. but wouldnt the government say "hey, if spiderman registered, how come we dnt knw his identity. lets go ask him to tell us what it is since he already registered"?

[carabas]

That's one of those pesky side-effects of One More Day/Brandnew Day that are not very well thought out, and are quitely ignored so far.

[StoneGold]

I believe various interviews have stated that Spidey did unmask in Civil War, but no one remembers who he was.

I think it might have been simpler to simply say the unmasking didn't happen, since there are all sorts of potential plot holes with the explanation they've given. Does Spidey even remember unmasking? If he does, is he wondering why no one else remembers? It's very confusing.

Eh, figure that part of the spell keeps people from thinking too hard about it. Like with Sentry. Or the Matrix. Or the Final Four Cylons.

[joemagnum611]

Do we know if the deal with Mephisto wiped out the part of cw where he did register?

Mark_S

No. The story goes that he did register and unmask but no one quite remembers who he is.

[shadowzoid]

then why doest the government relize this and ask him to reveal himself?

[Red Lotus]

then why doest the government relize this and ask him to reveal himself?

Well Blue Shield tried to bring him because of that and he tried to unmasking him too.

[Tobias Drake]

With no one remembering who he is and no records of his identity existing anymore, Mephisto basically unregistered Spider-Man. He's treated as any other unregistered meta.

[TotalWorldDomination]

Honestly, I'm going to go the other way on that.

We know the NA won't be arrested and put in jail, and I don't think the MA can just go around trying and failing to arrest the NA over and over and over again. After a point it just starts making them look like fools, if they don't look that way already.

The only way both books can continue is if they just stop bothering to go after them and come to some sort of understanding.

Unless of course they decide they want Ms. Marvel to switch teams. In which case it probably makes sense that her actions might catch up to her and she leaves the team for the other one.

Hey, they don't HAVE to arrest them at this point. They just have to register following the secret invasion. Then everybody's happy! Except for Luke Cage that is, but who cares about him anyway?

Eh, figure that part of the spell keeps people from thinking too hard about it. Like with Sentry. Or the Matrix. Or the Final Four Cylons.

Wow, so most of Marvel is just Battlestar in tights eh? Makes me wonder when Tony Stark is going to start taking hallucinogenics to deal with his cancer...

With no one remembering who he is and no records of his identity existing anymore, Mephisto basically unregistered Spider-Man. He's treated as any other unregistered meta.

Agreed. It would be like someone promising to sign a contract, and then there name disapearing from the page. Null and void.

[XPac]

Hey, they don't HAVE to arrest them at this point. They just have to register following the secret invasion. Then everybody's happy! Except for Luke Cage that is, but who cares about him anyway?




NA aren't going to register. They won't flush all the OMD stuff down the drain by having Spidey register and give up his identtiy.

So it's really just a question of Bendis choosing between having the MA continue to try and fail to capture the NA (making them look like utter fools in the process for being incapable of taking on a smaller weaker team), or writing the MA sane enough to decide there are are more important things to do than hunt down heroes they know aren't really a threat. For the sake of the MA, hopefully it's the former rather than the latter.

[mikekerr3]

Hey, they don't HAVE to arrest them at this point. They just have to register following the secret invasion. Then everybody's happy! Except for Luke Cage that is, but who cares about him anyway?

Why would any of them register, they have be able to register the whole time and chose not to. Spidey won't register, Wolverine doesn't have too. Luke won't. Ronin could have and chose not to. Why would they sell out to Iron Thug now after all this the situation hasn't changes why would they.
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[Frank]

I think Marvel should gave gone all the way with the idea and just have everybody de-mask the moment they register and make their identity public. It would have been interesting.

[XPac]

I think Marvel should gave gone all the way with the idea and just have everybody de-mask the moment they register and make their identity public. It would have been interesting.

Well, the interesting thing is more most heroes in marvel secret identities isn't that big a deal.

For Spidey it's obviously huge. Daredevil and Iron Man have both been de-masked, and have tried re-concealing their identities again at various time. But in general, it's rarely an issue.

The FF are all public. Everyone knows the Hulks identity. TBolts are all known. Same with the X-Men for the most part. For whatever reason, marvel unlike DC never made secret identities that big an issue except for a few characters

Course, I suspect that will change now. We saw that with Tigra. And with a data base of everyone's identity, sooner or later Marvel will have an Identity Crisis where SOMEONE goes for it. It's a bomb just waiting to drop.

[Mark_S]

That's one of those pesky side-effects of One More Day/Brandnew Day that are not very well thought out, and are quitely ignored so far.

JQ keeps saying in interviews that they'll get to it someday.

Mark_S