View Full Version : Why is Jean Grey in every TV/Movie of X-men?
shadowzoid
05-17-2008, 04:52 PM
but she was rlly killed off long ago in te comic. why is she alwasy still in shows?
Lord of Denial
05-17-2008, 04:57 PM
but she was rlly killed off long ago in te comic. why is she alwasy still in shows?
You do know they bring her back and the TV and cartoons are not the same continuity?
shadowzoid
05-17-2008, 04:58 PM
i knw, but why bring her back if she's never in the regular comic. i mean, its not like they suddenly make emma frost so popular
Jake V
05-17-2008, 05:42 PM
Jean Grey was alive in the comics at the time of every TV and movie adaption of the X-Men except for X3, and she died at the end of that one.
She's one of the 'core' characters to the x-men mythos. she'll always be around, in one form or another. writers have to acknowledge her in 'new' programs for the newbies who aren't aware of the history of the x-men.
GRANT!
05-17-2008, 06:56 PM
but she was rlly killed off long ago in te comic. why is she alwasy still in shows?
What are you talking about? She was alive and a regular cast member of the comic book when the first cartoon appeared as well as the first two movies and X-Men Evolutions.
Chiasm
05-17-2008, 07:05 PM
but she was rlly killed off long ago in te comic. why is she alwasy still in shows?
Do you actually read the X-men? She only died most recently four years ago or so. And no matter what you think of her repeated resurrections, the first time she died was one of the big moments of all comics, not just X-men. And thats the storyline they tried to duplicate in X3.
Naetnalta
05-17-2008, 08:51 PM
They brought her back. It turned out Pheonix was actually an alien entity. Jean Grey was at the bottom of the ocean the whole time.
Liberty Belle Fan
05-17-2008, 08:53 PM
Why was she killed off when she was clearly so popular - ZOMG who knows?
Naetnalta
05-17-2008, 09:26 PM
Why is there talk of a Captain America movie when he died?
DWEarhart
05-17-2008, 09:29 PM
Why was she killed off when she was clearly so popular - ZOMG who knows?
$$$$.
Used to be because it mattered for the story, but these days....
...$$$$.
StoneGold
05-17-2008, 10:16 PM
$$$$.
Used to be because it mattered for the story, but these days....
...$$$$.
First off, it's corporate comics, it was always about the money. Second, the two are connected. Third, it's wrong anyway, she was killed off because Shooter wanted her killed off, against the wishes of Claremont.
That said, Jean was not in the Pryde of the X-Men pilot.
Karl J Barnes
05-17-2008, 10:18 PM
but she was rlly killed off long ago in te comic. why is she alwasy still in shows?
Because every TV/Movie NEEDS a feisty red-head!
DWEarhart
05-17-2008, 10:22 PM
First off, it's corporate comics, it was always about the money. Second, the two are connected. Third, it's wrong anyway, she was killed off because Shooter wanted her killed off, against the wishes of Claremont.
Sooooo, uh, thank you?
shadowzoid
05-18-2008, 05:01 AM
what issue did she die? was it the the dark phoenix sage. i looked at that and the art style is older than four yeras. more like ten.
Toku King
05-18-2008, 05:13 AM
i knw, but why bring her back if she's never in the regular comic. i mean, its not like they suddenly make emma frost so popular
Because she's an essential part of the X-Men origin?
twilight
05-18-2008, 06:00 AM
what issue did she die? was it the the dark phoenix sage. i looked at that and the art style is older than four yeras. more like ten.
She died and came back.
Then she died and came back.
Then she died.
She will be coming back though.
-Twi
pinkdino
05-18-2008, 05:01 PM
Jean was the core of the old X-Men comics, and now a mere novelty thrown in the mix to fire things up once in a while.
Wolverine; Jeannie would turn in her grave. . .if only she'd stay in it long enough!
I feel Famke Janssen didn't play Jeannie very well in the movies. She is too tall, thin, and. . . well. . . man like! Jean needs to be portrayed as womanly, feminine and supple. This is why the comics worked her so well. She is a girl/woman first, and a mutant warrior second.
I recently watched Disney's Enchanted, and I believe that Amy Adams would make a fine Jean Grey. She is almost a carbon copy of Greg Land's Jean Grey from Pheonix Endsong.
http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=amy+adams
I'd love to see some integration betweeen the Marvel movies, cameos from various characters into each others films. Enough of the origins, let's have some fun. How cool would it be to have the Hulk crash through the middle of an X-Men movie, or to have Daredevil join in a fight to rescue Spiderman sometime?
Anyway, Jean rules as far as I am concerned. Yeah, she may be dead, but that's why comics are so cool. There is nothing stopping us from reading the old ones again and again!
Jmacq1
05-19-2008, 06:04 AM
I recently watched Disney's Enchanted, and I believe that Amy Adams would make a fine Jean Grey. She is almost a carbon copy of Greg Land's Jean Grey from Pheonix Endsong.
I don't mean to pick on you, being new and all, but given how often Greg Land shows up "the swipe file" it's entirely possible his Jean Grey from Phoenix Endsong is in fact a carbon copy of Amy Adams. :tongue:
Augusto
06-09-2008, 12:51 AM
Jean Grey was at the bottom of the ocean the whole time.
That was a later retcon.
what issue did she die? was it the the dark phoenix sage. i looked at that and the art style is older than four yeras. more like ten.
Uncanny X-men 137. September 1980.
http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Smiley-IPB-279.gif
what issue did she die? was it the the dark phoenix sage. i looked at that and the art style is older than four yeras. more like ten.
Jean Grey originally died as Dark Phoenix in Uncanny X-Men #137 (1980):
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97792366288.137.GIF
The first retcon, which reveals Jean Grey never became Phoenix at all, but Phoenix became Jean Grey, is in The Avengers #263 (Part 1) & Fantastic Four #286 (Part 2) (1986) for X-Factor (the original X-Men in the guise of mutant bounty hunters):
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/05815547774.263.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/30929984076.286.GIF
For several years, Jean Grey remains Marvel Girl in X-Factor with no connection to Phoenix. However, beginning with 1994's The Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix #1-4, Jean Grey retakes the name of Phoenix. By the late-1990's, Jean Grey begins to the manifest the Phoenix Effect again. This is when it all became murky.
Jean Grey died a second time in New X-Men #150 as Phoenix from a stroke caused by Magneto:
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97794297722.150.GIF
I'm not even touching Jean Grey's sinister clone, Madelyne Pryor, the Goblin Queen, & her daughter from an alternate timeline, Rachel Summers, the second Phoenix who flourished as a member of the X-Men from Uncanny X-Men #184-209 & founded Excalibur.
Kiriyama
06-09-2008, 10:21 AM
1 word.
Boobs.
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