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4PointOh
05-15-2008, 01:44 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/features/columns/film_reporter/e3i7e5a336a9153b9a5c0068b54a6876a08

Billy Parker
05-15-2008, 03:20 PM
Totally agree that the DC movies are hella lame, as this article states.

Usernamessd
05-15-2008, 03:36 PM
I disagree,He oviously has a HUGE Marvel slant.

Grazzt
05-15-2008, 03:47 PM
I disagree,He oviously has a HUGE Marvel slant.

I don't think it invalidates any of the points he made. In fact, I'm surprised that DC wasn't able to get the shared movie universe off the ground first, given the fact that they're owned by the people who actually make the movies.

And doing solo movies as a purposeful lead-in to the Avengers movie is a smart move.

JKCarrier
05-15-2008, 03:54 PM
It's kind of weird that he credits cross-continuity with making Marvel movies better, since they haven't actually done any continuity yet. So far all we've gotten is a tiny cameo in Iron Man (which most of the audience didn't even see, since it was hidden after the credits) and a lot of promises that may or may not pan out. Marvel's other big hits -- Spidey, X-Men, Blade, FF -- were completely self-contained.

Billy Parker
05-15-2008, 04:53 PM
Marvel's other big hits -- Spidey, X-Men, Blade, FF -- were completely self-contained.

All the Marvel movies take place in New York. Plus Stan Lee in a deleted scene in Spiey 1 did mention the X-Men.

Buzz Dixon
05-15-2008, 05:07 PM
I really enjoyed the recent IRON MAN movie (wouldn't mind seeing that franchise run for several more films) and the Nick Fury/Avenger Initiative scene at the end was worth the wait.

However...will all these characters work together when put in a single movie? the X-MEN films did a credible job, but the X-Men were all identified as mutants in a fictional universe where it was known large numbers of mutants existed.

I am wondering -- not sayin' it can't be done, jes' wondering -- if audiences will accept a bunch of divergent superheroes in one movie.

Look at the Universal monster movies or the Godzilla movies; things started moving downhill fast when they started crossing over into one another's movies. Can the film versions of superheroes actually sustain massive crossovers? (And don't cite animated TV shows; different kettle of fish entirely since the very quality of animation makes it several steps removed from reality.)

JKCarrier
05-15-2008, 05:09 PM
Plus Stan Lee in a deleted scene in Spiey 1 did mention the X-Men.

In "Batman Forever", Batman says, "The circus is halfway to Metropolis by now." In "Batman and Robin", he says "This is why Superman works alone". I guess that kind of deep, meaningful continuity is why those two movies were so popular and critically acclaimed. :biggrin:

Nick Soapdish
05-15-2008, 06:24 PM
All the Marvel movies take place in New York. Plus Stan Lee in a deleted scene in Spiey 1 did mention the X-Men.

I'm not sure that you're helping your case. All the Marvel movies take place in the same place, but nobody ever gets mentioned in the other movies except for a deleted scene.

Shared universe aside, Marvel has done a much better job of getting their properties off the ground. DC's been hurt because it has just the one company to be making their movies and somehow they're still managing to get hurt by the producers not cooperating. It's boggling.

The Xenos
05-15-2008, 06:55 PM
I prefer DC books to Marvel's. Yet even I gotta say the Marvel movies lately have been better. Especially now with Iron Man and Mavel producing their own, it's simply better than DC. I wish DC could get their act together. They can't even have their cartoons be in the same universe, never mind their live action films.

Begins was awesome. That's about it. Returns was a mess. Hell, Returns couldn't even figure out if it was a remake or a sequel. DC is Warner's bitch and Warner doesn't know what the characters it owns is all about. Eddie Murphy or Jack Black as Green Lantern. Nic Cage in Tim Burton's Superman. Jon Peters wanting Braniac to have a gay robot sidekick and talking polar bears. Halle Berry as Catwoman. Birds of Prey the TV show. 90% of Smallbille.

The list goes on.

Now that Marvel is controlling their own film production on most characters, they a hundred times better than DC is at films. And I'm saying that as a sad and jealous DC fan.