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Lord of Denial
05-14-2008, 07:14 AM
I know that Kal-El and Kara are cousins but as the last surviving Kryptonians do they have an obligation to try and save an almost extinct race?

I know 2 Kryptonians are no where near being a deep enough genetic pool to recreate their race and being related presents a major problem as well but they come from a culture with very advance technology in cloning and genetic engineering so there is a slight chance they would use that to create a more diverse gene pool to draw from.

I don't mean for them to have sex or anything but donate genetic material and go from there.

The Batman
05-14-2008, 07:19 AM
Is Kandor still around? Because if it is, I want to say they don't if for no other reason than the ickiness factor involved. I mean, Kandor is there with a presumably deep enough genetic pool to keep the Kryptonian race going.

I wonder if Kandor's leaders have deemed procreation a legal necessity or outlawed abortion or anything like that given the status of the Kryptonian race?

Lord of Denial
05-14-2008, 07:23 AM
Is Kandor still around? Because if it is, I want to say they don't if for no other reason than the ickiness factor involved. I mean, Kandor is there with a presumably deep enough genetic pool to keep the Kryptonian race going.

I wonder if Kandor's leaders have deemed procreation a legal necessity or outlawed abortion or anything like that given the status of the Kryptonian race?

I was kindy talking full sized Kryptonian but that is a go point.

The Batman
05-14-2008, 07:26 AM
I was kindy talking full sized Kryptonian but that is a go point.

Oh.

Well then I guess it's just a matter of Superman prioritizing the restoration of Kandor over trying to bang his hot cousin.


Also, let's not be microscopist here. They might be little, but Kandorians are people too. ;)

Lord of Denial
05-14-2008, 07:30 AM
Oh.

Well then I guess it's just a matter of Superman prioritizing the restoration of Kandor over trying to bang his hot cousin.


Also, let's not be microscopist here. They might be little, but Kandorians are people too. ;)

Yeah but they are kind of cut of from the rest of the universe at this point.

And I said nothing of trying to bang his hot cousin.

The Batman
05-14-2008, 07:47 AM
I know, I'm kidding around.

Really though, so long as that colony o millions off Kryptonians is around, even if it's cut off from the rest of the universe, it takes some of the burden off of Superman and Supergirl to ensure the survival of the Kryptonian race. Really, if Superman ever wanted to restore Krypton, the first logical step would be the restoration of Kandor.

Rik Levins
05-14-2008, 08:19 AM
Well, he did it Pre-Crisis, and the restored Kandorians repopulated a planet (Rokyn, or something like that). Of course, the planet was soon shunted off into another dimension so that there wouldn't be too many Kryptonians still around.

WorstThingUS
05-14-2008, 09:24 AM
I know that Kal-El and Kara are cousins but as the last surviving Kryptonians do they have an obligation to try and save an almost extinct race?

I know 2 Kryptonians are no where near being a deep enough genetic pool to recreate their race and being related presents a major problem as well but they come from a culture with very advance technology in cloning and genetic engineering so there is a slight chance they would use that to create a more diverse gene pool to draw from.

I don't mean for them to have sex or anything but donate genetic material and go from there.

No and "ew." And aside from Kandor there's Argo City.

Captain Smith
05-14-2008, 11:26 AM
So how many Kryptonians are there around? Isn't there a space ship of them from the old Krypton Navy floating around somewhere?

PatchMadripoor
05-14-2008, 11:41 AM
So how many Kryptonians are there around? Isn't there a space ship of them from the old Krypton Navy floating around somewhere?

Weren't there a lot of Kryptonian criminal that escaped the Phantom Zone in the Superman Annual, where Chris Kent disappeared with the ship after fighting Zod?

WyldCard4
05-14-2008, 04:44 PM
I know that Kal-El and Kara are cousins but as the last surviving Kryptonians do they have an obligation to try and save an almost extinct race?

I know 2 Kryptonians are no where near being a deep enough genetic pool to recreate their race and being related presents a major problem as well but they come from a culture with very advance technology in cloning and genetic engineering so there is a slight chance they would use that to create a more diverse gene pool to draw from.

I don't mean for them to have sex or anything but donate genetic material and go from there.

Actualy when you think about it they probably could make a viable race, assuming they don't carry any genes that would wipe them out.

Given how powerful and smart Kryptonians are they could be retarded and deformed and still be better then us in every possible way.

NotSuper
05-14-2008, 11:04 PM
I think this is one of those "easier said than done" things. Superman may have his super-intelligence back, but even that wouldn't be enough to restore Krypton.

Raptor
05-15-2008, 01:18 AM
I'm going to propose something people wont find popular.

#1 they did it in history to keep royal blood pure...yeah the pool of two is too shallow, I agree, but when in Rome do as the romans do...which can be sick stuff.

#2 theres the theory that Kryptonian physiology may be quite different. It might not be inbreeding. Might be like cats or animals...or in some mythos/game settings elves. DC would never put that into publication...they tend to be more family oriented, less risque.

#3 Clones with genetic variation via science. Superman is a genius, youd think he could do it.

Its totally possible in a comic world, they simply decided not to.

Now...say what ya will about me. Id go with option 1 or 2 if I were Supes and pray it worked out:wink:

Forgive me if that was odd/gross I'm tired and it makes sense atm.

666MasterOfPuppets
05-15-2008, 08:13 AM
I know that Kal-El and Kara are cousins but as the last surviving Kryptonians do they have an obligation to try and save an almost extinct race?

I know 2 Kryptonians are no where near being a deep enough genetic pool to recreate their race and being related presents a major problem as well but they come from a culture with very advance technology in cloning and genetic engineering so there is a slight chance they would use that to create a more diverse gene pool to draw from.

I don't mean for them to have sex or anything but donate genetic material and go from there.

I hope that never happens. I didn't like the return of Supergirl, and IMO, it would be a mistake to revive the entire Kryptonian race.

Is Kandor still around? Because if it is, I want to say they don't if for no other reason than the ickiness factor involved. I mean, Kandor is there with a presumably deep enough genetic pool to keep the Kryptonian race going.

I wonder if Kandor's leaders have deemed procreation a legal necessity or outlawed abortion or anything like that given the status of the Kryptonian race?

Well, according to the last thing I read, there are TWO Kandors. The Kandor where Preus came from (zero Kryptonians) and some sort of "mythical" Kandor, which would be the one you're referring to.

EDIT: I just hope that that other Kandor stays that way: as a myth.

I liked the fact of Superman being the sole survivor of Krypton. Why did they have to change that?

Conner_Kent
05-18-2008, 12:35 AM
ok its obvoiuse that we've thought about this, but I'm waiting for the issue where Kal & Kara talk about it lol it would be voted as "most acward moment......EVER"

NotSuper
05-18-2008, 12:43 AM
I liked the fact of Superman being the sole survivor of Krypton. Why did they have to change that?
Because a lot of people--including myself--don't like it. Plus, it limits the amount of stories that can be told with the character. While a writer who doesn't care for the multiple Kryptonians doesn't need to use them. But they're still there for anyone who does want to use them.

Supermancho
05-18-2008, 08:57 AM
Well, according to the last thing I read, there are TWO Kandors. The Kandor where Preus came from (zero Kyptonians) and some sort of "mythical" Kandor, which would be the one you're referring to.
I guess it's safe if we suppose that Ceritak (Scorn) belongs to the no-kryptonians Kandor.....http://www.smileyhut.com/confused/dunno.gif (http://www.smileyhut.com)
http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-234.gif

Slaughter
05-19-2008, 11:38 AM
I can even imagine Supes talking with his cousin about, uh...

"So, the Kryptonian race is in peril. Kandor was shunted away, the people inside the Phantom Zone are all crazies except for Chris and Mon-El, and Karsta went away to pay for her crimes. It's just me, you and Karen... but Karen is from another universe."
"Wait, Kal... What are you suggesting?"
"Clones and Genetic Engineering, of course! "
"Ah, ok... well, let's go to the lab!"

NotSuper
05-19-2008, 07:18 PM
I saw the Tolos Kandorians as eventually evolving into Kryptonian-like creatures (as in GodFall) and getting their history mixed up with the REAL Kandor which would explain Preus having Superman-esque powers and why the citizens believes Brainiac was responsible for their confinement.

We'll see the actual Kryptonian Kandor soon enough so the other one isn't really needed. Wherever the faux-Kandor is, I'd like to think that they've stopped calling themselves by that name and have created their own culture.

princesa
05-20-2008, 06:18 PM
Inbred Kryptonians--but a good look

DayWing
05-21-2008, 05:51 AM
Aren't Daxamites former Krytonians who split away from Krypton? Except for the tolerance to Kryptonite and weakness to Lead, are they not an exact match? Why not work with them to repopulate?

TradePaperbackTraitor
05-21-2008, 06:31 AM
This is what you get when you inbreed Kryptonians....

http://www.ryanottley.com/images/covers/44covercolor.jpg

..... a Viltrumite! :eek:

Supermancho
05-21-2008, 09:05 AM
Are kryptonians all caucasians? Is there any references to other races in Krypton?

http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-234.gif

666MasterOfPuppets
05-21-2008, 10:12 AM
This is what you get when you inbreed Kryptonians....

http://www.ryanottley.com/images/covers/44covercolor.jpg

..... a Viltrumite! :eek:

Who is she?

lonewolf23k
05-21-2008, 04:36 PM
Is Kandor still around? Because if it is, I want to say they don't if for no other reason than the ickiness factor involved. I mean, Kandor is there with a presumably deep enough genetic pool to keep the Kryptonian race going.

I wonder if Kandor's leaders have deemed procreation a legal necessity or outlawed abortion or anything like that given the status of the Kryptonian race?

Well, while still inside Kandor, they might've gotten the other way and placed a strict limit on the population, to avoid overpopulating the small bottle habitat.

TradePaperbackTraitor
05-27-2008, 01:25 PM
Who is she?

Read Invincible. :wink:

CBikle
05-27-2008, 01:39 PM
Well, while still inside Kandor, they might've gotten the other way and placed a strict limit on the population, to avoid overpopulating the small bottle habitat.

Couldn't they just move into a bigger jug ?

Spiffy
05-27-2008, 01:41 PM
Because a lot of people--including myself--don't like it. Plus, it limits the amount of stories that can be told with the character. While a writer who doesn't care for the multiple Kryptonians doesn't need to use them. But they're still there for anyone who does want to use them.

I think its better to be specific. "Don't like it" is kind of vague.

To me the reason for multiple Kryptonians is that it introduces several different elements of conflict into Superman's life, while only removing one.

The new elements can be as simple as introducing new potential enemies who are as powerful as Superman, or as complex as him having to figure out his place in a universe where he's not as unique as he thought he was. The lost element--the sense of aloneness one might feel at being the last of his or her kind--had long been dulled by how closely Superman identifies with the human race anyway.

666MasterOfPuppets
05-28-2008, 05:31 AM
Because a lot of people--including myself--don't like it. Plus, it limits the amount of stories that can be told with the character. While a writer who doesn't care for the multiple Kryptonians doesn't need to use them. But they're still there for anyone who does want to use them.

I know what you mean, but I feel that the sense of uniqueness around Superman, given that he was the last Kryptonian, is lost, thus removing that conflict from the character.

The whole "sole survivor" thing is lost. Do you need another Kryptonian in order to have Superman face an enemy as powerful as him? Not really. As for the writer using or not using the other Kryptonians, I dunno. He might no use them, but they're still out there.

My 0.02, anyway.

Titanium
05-28-2008, 01:08 PM
Two people, especially from the same gene pool, are not enough to save a species, even with cloning.