Titans #2 *SPOILERS*

[COMIC GEEK]

I thought the first was good, not the best first issue ever to hit the stands, but pretty good still though.

I'm looking foward to #2 and see how the trigon storyline continues to play out.

[Colossus77]

I bought it but have not had a chance to read it. I did open it and it said it was part 2. Which issue is part 1?

[pryde15]

I'll buy it. #1 didn't really give me enough for me to able to form a decision. It wasn't great, but it wasn't horrible either.

[Gottaluvit]

I bought it but have not had a chance to read it. I did open it and it said it was part 2. Which issue is part 1?

Part 1 was the Titan's East Special that led into the new ongoing.

And, yes, I can't wait for this weeks books to hit the stores. this has priority on my reading list.

[KJ_81]

I didn't like the first issue, but yet, I'll be buying the second.

I enjoy the characters, and don't want DC to lose faith in them.

I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. :/

[The Xenos]

Well.. if you can't say anything nice. Crap. Too late.

[Jack Zodiac]

No. Ten characters.

[Zero Hunter]

Since I quite reading the whinefest that was Teen Titans until McKeever is gone or comes up with an orginal idea I have some extra cash. I figure I will at least finish out the first story arc with Titans and see how it goes.

[4thHorseman]

I'll give the first arc a chance, after that, it'll depend on how I like it.

[Fatguy]

I'll be getting it, I thought the first issue was ok.

Lightyears better than Teen Titans was before I dumped it. Not that THAT is a tough achievement, being better than trash...

[Alex Smith]

I didn't much enjoy the first issue, but it's hard to judge a book on one issue alone. Plus, Nightwing is in it, so it's hard for me to just ignore it.

[Mr.EZ]

They're actually releasing a second issue? I thought it would've been canceled by now.

[DavidAllred]

Not a snowball's chance.

[Rolltideguy77]

Yes I cant wait, I love Ian's art. The story is sort of meh but I will give it awhile before I dropped it. I'm a big fan of the originals.

[Gottaluvit]

Yes I cant wait, I love Ian's art. The story is sort of meh but I will give it awhile before I dropped it. I'm a big fan of the originals.

Unfortunatley Churchill isn't doing the art on the next few issues, Benitez is untill Ian recovers from a shoulder injury. I was disappointed in that news but I'm eager to see where the story goes reguardless of the artist on board.

[Rolltideguy77]

Aw that sucks but yeah I'll still buy

[Mr. Nebula]

I liked the first issue and'll continue with it for awhile. I enjoyed Judd Winick's run on Outsiders more than anything in the current Teen Titans series and can never quite understand the constant Winick hate-in that occurs whenever his name is mentioned on most comic boards (Jason Todd arguments aside). I agree with whoever it was in this thread about how much whinier Teen Titans has gotten with McKeever onboard, so I'll give this older-team's book a chance for a few storyarcs at least.

[COMIC GEEK]

The only reason why I was reading teen titans was because of gar,vic,kory and raven.

It was a simple choice that once they left, I left too.

Been a "titans" fan for 30 years now, this is the first time I wont be buying the TEEN titans title.

Its about time that DC came out with another titans book.

I eagerly await #2

[shaxper]

I'll give #2 a chance because I love the classic team, but as so many other titles have proven before, love for the Wolfman/Perez era will only get DC so far. I have literally hundreds of Titans issues in my collection that star all or some of the classic team and which thoroughly and totally blow. I wouldn't even own them if I hadn't fished them out of quarter bins at local shows. DC will not use my allegience to these characters as a way to turn me into a sucker who pays three bucks a month for utter garbage.

Incidentally, can someone explain to me why Raven is in highschool? Back in the old days, she was attending college. Then she died. Did she come back and decide to expand her mind by furthering her education in reverse?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

They're actually releasing a second issue? I thought it would've been canceled by now.

No such luck.... its said Dan Didio will personally buy copies to keep it from being canceled. Like he does Green Arrow/Black Canary.:tongue:

[nuclearman]

I thought the first was okay ... I'll be giving it another shot.

[COMIC GEEK]

I'll give #2 a chance because I love the classic team, but as so many other titles have proven before, love for the Wolfman/Perez era will only get DC so far. I have literally hundreds of Titans issues in my collection that star all or some of the classic team and which thoroughly and totally blow. I wouldn't even own them if I hadn't fished them out of quarter bins at local shows. DC will not use my allegience to these characters as a way to turn me into a sucker who pays three bucks a month for utter garbage.

Incidentally, can someone explain to me why Raven is in highschool? Back in the old days, she was attending college. Then she died. Did she come back and decide to expand her mind by furthering her education in reverse?'

geoff deaged raven.

[wheelscribe]

Largely for the reasons that Shaxpur has already written, I'll read Titans #2, though I was severely dissapointed with the first issue. I am enjoying the current Raven mini - last week's issue three mostly hit it's mark.

[Usernamessd]

I thought the first was good, not the best first issue ever to hit the stands, but pretty good still though.

I'm looking foward to #2 and see how the trigon storyline continues to play out.

I'll see the reviews and see if its any better.

[shaxper]

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geoff deaged raven.

And de-educated her too? Why?


And is anyone else disappointed that they're using Trigon? He always felt like such a cheap and frustrating villain to me, on par with Freddy Krueger and Jason Vorheese. He can do pretty much anything, he won't be reasoned with, and he never stays dead. It's just plain cheap unless you're rooting for him. He has no personality or depth. He's just the annoying badass who won't go away.

[Beast]

I'll be picking up issue #2, but I don't have high hopes for it. Winick isn't very high on my list of writers, and the first issue wasn't exactly all that great. I'll stick around though, because I like the characters. I just have a bad feeling once Winick's trademark storybeats start playing out, that I'm going to wish I hadn't. Who'll turn gay, who'll get Aids, and who'll die. My guess, Beast Boy for at least two of those. :tongue:

Also agreed about the use of Trigon. If you're going to start a new series, at least try to make a splash with something all-new and all-different. Him being the villain doesn't immediatly indicate the story will be bad though. But even the attacks on the titans seemed pretty weak sauce. I'd rather it be someone else behind them, since they were such colossal failures. Hell, bring back something cool like the Wildebeest Society.

[COMIC GEEK]

And de-educated her too? Why?


And is anyone else disappointed that they're using Trigon? He always felt like such a cheap and frustrating villain to me, on par with Freddy Krueger and Jason Vorheese. He can do pretty much anything, he won't be reasoned with, and he never stays dead. It's just plain cheap unless you're rooting for him. He has no personality or depth. He's just the annoying badass who won't go away.


the storyline has said that one titan makes the ultimate sacrafice, now theres now way judd would be killing any of these titans.

so I'm thinking that maybe raven sacrafices her youth and goes back to being basically the same age as the other titans

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I'll be picking up issue #2, but I don't have high hopes for it. Winick isn't very high on my list of writers, and the first issue wasn't exactly all that great. I'll stick around though, because I like the characters. I just have a bad feeling once Winick's trademark storybeats start playing out, that I'm going to wish I hadn't. Who'll turn gay, who'll get Aids, and who'll die. My guess, Beast Boy for at least two of those. :tongue:

Also agreed about the use of Trigon. If you're going to start a new series, at least try to make a splash with something all-new and all-different. Him being the villain doesn't immediatly indicate the story will be bad though. But even the attacks on the titans seemed pretty weak sauce. I'd rather it be someone else behind them, since they were such colossal failures. Hell, bring back something cool like the Wildebeest Society.

I can't wait til the sexual fun begins . Dick and Donna are gonna be gettin it on soon !:wink:

[Beast]

I can't wait til the sexual fun begins . Dick and Donna are gonna be gettin it on soon !:wink:
Winick will be sure to play up that his name is 'Dick', simply for the sexual humor.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Winick will be sure to play up that his name is 'Dick', simply for the sexual humor.

I can picture the scene....


Donna Troy is in bed ...you can't see her real naughty bits. Sheets down to show some of her behind. Dick is shown standing all dramatic and tense...like he just shit a grapefruit...

Donna: "So is that why you no longer call yourself Richard Grayson anymore ?"

Dick : "Yeah , I pretty much why I go by Dick Grayson now. You didn't seem to mind."

To create drama you'll see Dick struggling with sleeping with Donna and Starfire....

[titanfan]

And de-educated her too? Why?

Well, supposedly she was educated on Azarath before and never went to Earth high school the first time. She chooses to go for the "experience".

[joku2]

hells yeah im a huge nightwing fan

[Gottaluvit]

After seeing the art in issue two, the real question is going to be 'who will pick up issue 3?' The art is certainly not going to sit well with many fans. :frown:

[protege]

Well, i have to say the artwork is really not so great- At times, starfire and Changling looked like pixies, more than people. I liked the fact that the titans friends helped them out, but i would've liked to see the battles fleshed out more. and what's up with raven being a smart ass, all of a sudden?

[Beast]

Wow.... read the issue today. It was just awful. Both the writing and the art. :(

[Jack Zodiac]

Surprise... ? :confused:

[COMIC GEEK]

I'll be picking it up it a day or two. I can handle the bad art, its not the first time.

I wanna see how the arc plays out.

[tumfp]

The only reason this was a step up from Titans #1 is because I knew how bad Winnick was dealing the cards for these characters this time around. The zonky characterization returns yet again, with Starfire being the only bearable character with her amazing repertoire of six lines. Most were asking if someone else was okeedokee. And, why did her skin lose the orange halfway through the issue? Raven still wins the award for most out-of-character character! And she dresses like a whore! All for only $2.99! Donna still looks like a porn star with the 16ft. tall hair. And Roy. Poor Roy Harper, he looks absolutely dumbfounded in every single appearance except when he's shooting ATOMIC BOMBS at his friends. Gar looks like an elf; and, I can finally understand why the other Titans thought him immature for the last 28 years. Oh, and everyone has the same exact lips as Terra 1! It's just an utter mess. I can't believe I'm writing this, but I'm pissed I pre-ordered to issue 3 and have to buy a Titans book. Thank god all my other books were awesome or I'd be really down in the dumps.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Wow.... read the issue today. It was just awful. Both the writing and the art. :(

Surprise... ? :confused:

It strangely has never been pulled by my LCS. So I was graced by gods above to not get TITANS 1 or 2. I suppose I will save people from a review in the Good , Bad and the Ugly , where I'd joke "Trees were cut down to print this ?"

[4thHorseman]

I was hoping I would be able to make it one full arc....

Nope, dropping it after this issue. Just awful beyond words

[Beast]

It's funny how everyone was confused by Issue #1 being labeled Part 2.

But now Issue #2 is labeled as being Part 1. To quote Kitty Pryde, "Huhbuhwha?"

[HeckBoy]

What's up w/ Donna Troy's fugly mix-mash costume? Surely they could've stuck w/ her basic black star-splash costume or designed something better.

[Spenser for Hire]

I buy everthing Titans. I enjoyed the first issue, waiting for my DCBS shipment for the next. I have also enjoyed the Raven mini. Nice to see her shine on her own.

[Fatguy]

I thought the same as last issue, the story was ok. I give it a strong "meh".

The art, however, was absolute garbage. The last page team pose, Nightwing looked RIDICULOUS. With his abnormally long neck he reminded me of Plastic Man. Looks like he'll be the artist for the next two issues AT LEAST. Not good news. I didn't think anybody would make me miss Churchill...

[jv2k]

I usually have a high tolerance for Winnick, hell I enjoyed the jason todd issues and like Green Arrow/Black Canary(needless deaths aside) but this issue was beyond terrible.

The dialog was bad, the art was bad, and the actual plot was bad. We were treated to awkward jokes from beast boy and bad banter from the cast. The art ranged from similar to Perez's Titans(which is bad considering everyone has aged since then, especially starfire's face) to cartoony looking unrecongnizable characters. The plot itself is just unappealing. I mean Raven has a half sibling? "Meh" doesn't begin to describe how bland that idea is.

[ZeoVGM]

I was hoping I would be able to make it one full arc....

Nope, dropping it after this issue. Just awful beyond words

Wow, can't believe the uncalled for hate here.

Titans has been a very fun read so far. MUCH better than the mediocre comic is currently Teen Titans.

And I also can't believe people are saying the art was trash. It simply was not. It could be better, and there are some iffy things about it, but to call it complete trash is absolutely wrong.

[Mr.EZ]

Utter crap. The art was horrendous and Winick's writing kills brain cells faster than bud and beer mixed

And how the hell did Gar change into some cartoony cape wearing goat?

[Usernamessd]

Wow, can't believe the uncalled for hate here.

Titans has been a very fun read so far. MUCH better than the mediocre comic is currently Teen Titans.

And I also can't believe people are saying the art was trash. It simply was not. It could be better, and there are some iffy things about it, but to call it complete trash is absolutely wrong.

I disagree,I actually like Sean Mckeever's 'Teen Titans' plus it isn't unessecary hate seeing as Judd Winick has a knack for horrible writing.

Utter crap. The art was horrendous and Winick's writing kills brain cells faster than bud and beer mixed

And how the hell did Gar change into some cartoony cape wearing goat?

He looked like a random green woman in those panels.

[Beast]

Wow, can't believe the uncalled for hate here.
Uncalled for? Ok, if you say so. The issue was pretty terrible.
Titans has been a very fun read so far. MUCH better than the mediocre comic is currently Teen Titans.
I don't know about that. At least the characters are likeable there and something somewhat original is going on. Here everyone reads like they're douchebags and we get another tired non-threat from Trigon.
And I also can't believe people are saying the art was trash. It simply was not. It could be better, and there are some iffy things about it, but to call it complete trash is absolutely wrong.
I don't think anyone said complete trash. But along with the awful art and awful dialogue, it ads up to one pretty awful package all around. We'll see if it improves. But it's not looking likely at the moment.

[Beast]

And how the hell did Gar change into some cartoony cape wearing goat?
No clue, maybe Winick confused him with Morph instead of Beast Boy. :rolleyes:
He looked like a random green woman in those panels.
No, I know what panel he was talking about. I think he was immitating Mr. Tummnus or something. Even though it makes no sense given how his powers work. But eh, it's Winick.

[jv2k]

Wow, can't believe the uncalled for hate here.

Titans has been a very fun read so far. MUCH better than the mediocre comic is currently Teen Titans.

And I also can't believe people are saying the art was trash. It simply was not. It could be better, and there are some iffy things about it, but to call it complete trash is absolutely wrong.

I couldn't disagree more. Even the crappiest of the post-Johns TT was at least more enjoyable than this.

The dialog was horrible, the plot was tired, and the art...

Starfire looked way too young on every panel except for one towards the end where she ages. Starfire was also white for one panel instead of orange, which isn't a mistake that should be going on in this era of comics. She also had this dumb airheaded smile on her face every panel.

Beast Boy looked like a woman in one panel, in fact I stopped for a good 30 seconds trying to figure out who it was before I came to the conclusion that the artist actually did that bad a job at drawing him. When he didn't look like a woman he was drawn like the caricature of Laurel, from Laurel and Hardy, when he guest stared on Scooby-doo. Then there was the part where BB turned into a cartoon goat with gloves and a cape.

Flash had a cartoony weird looking chin and slender build, since when was wally skinny?

Cyborg apparently was downgraded back to his Perez era character model, and personally I never liked the metal strap on his forehead and seeing it back is a bad thing.

Despite the fact that the girls looked young, Nightwing looked like he could be 40.

Despite the fact that Raven was the only girl who should have looked younger she was the oldest looking one.

The list of problems with the art goes on.

I would go into why the dialog was bad, stiff, forced, and horrible but I really don't feel like going through the issue again to give quotes.

[Fatguy]

I don't think anyone said complete trash.

I did! Basically. And I stand by my assessment. :tongue:

Benitez apparently has absolutely no eye for basic anatomy.

[Sir Tim Drake]

I just saw a few pages from this issue, and honestly, this could be the worst comic I've seen since Marville. The horrendous artwork, awkward dialogue, and rehashed plot (Trigon again?!) all contribute to an unusual level of horrible and terrible.

One slightly annoying thing is Kory's tendency to not use contractions. The animated Kory has that speech pattern, not the comic book version. When Marv was writing Kory, she used contractions all the time.

[Jack Zodiac]

I don't know about that. At least the characters are likeable there and something somewhat original is going on. Here everyone reads like they're douchebags and we get another tired non-threat from Trigon.

Eh, I'unno 'bout that. The characters in McKeever's Teen Titans are acting like douchebags, and we're getting yet another knockoff Titans villain team as the threat. It could be a whole lot better. When Sean took over, even with yet another future Titans arc, at least the character were being written well, but since the first arc ended, they've been terrible.

I just saw a few pages from this issue, and honestly, this could be the worst comic I've seen since Marville.

I'll make fun of Jemas for hours and hours, but at least Marville was written knowing full well it was a terrible joke of a book. Winick and Didio honestly believe they're doing something good with this book, and that's way worse.

[Beast]

Eh, I'unno 'bout that. The characters in McKeever's Teen Titans are acting like douchebags, and we're getting yet another knockoff Titans villain team as the threat. It could be a whole lot better. When Sean took over, even with yet another future Titans arc, at least the character were being written well, but since the first arc ended, they've been terrible.
No, they're acting like teenagers. And hopefully what's going on will bring them together.

And I think Clock King and his Terror Titans have been a pretty good threat so far.

[Jack Zodiac]

They're acting like dicks. They may be acting like teenage dicks, but they're acting unlike they've ever acted before and with horrible motivation behind that transition. Especially Robin and Wonder Girl. It's like that can't think of any other way to write these two character than in the shadow of their dead buddy. It's lame. And it might build to some resolution, but all that resolution is going to do is return them to acting normally and shed readers along the way.

[sdman619]

What a pile of crap this story was. Wow Ian Churchill can't even make it 2 issues without being replaced. This was the worst Titans I read in a while which isn't saying much. Judd has got to be one of the worst writers ever. This once proud franchise is being destroyed before our very eyes.

[Fatguy]

They're acting like dicks. They may be acting like teenage dicks, but they're acting unlike they've ever acted before and with horrible motivation behind that transition. Especially Robin and Wonder Girl. It's like that can't think of any other way to write these two character than in the shadow of their dead buddy. It's lame.

Yeah, I agree 110%. The way Robin and ESPECIALLY Wonder Girl have been handled by McKeever has been absolutely horrendous. It was the chief reason behind me finally dumping the book.

[the4thpip]

The plot itself is just unappealing. I mean Raven has a half sibling? "Meh" doesn't begin to describe how bland that idea is.

Especially considering the whole "Trigon Seeds" story that went on forever towards the end of Marv's run on New Titans back in the 90s.

And who is that "Arthur" who's "checking all of the ocean" (roll eyes) for Gar?

The original Aquaman is currently dead, and the new Aquaman vowed to never use that name again, didn't he? Nor would I expect Dick or any of the Titans to refer to the underwater Conan by his first name.

[Johnny_Luck]

What a pile of crap this story was. Wow Ian Churchill can't even make it 2 issues without being replaced. This was the worst Titans I read in a while which isn't saying much. Judd has got to be one of the worst writers ever. This once proud franchise is being destroyed before our very eyes.

Churchill wasn't replaced and he will be back, he got injured and is almost recovered now. Churchill is the best artist for this title and I for one cannot wait until he gets back.

Judd is not one of the worst writers even I can think of a lot of worse books than this book at the moment without even trying.

[Gottaluvit]

No clue, maybe Winick confused him with Morph instead of Beast Boy. :rolleyes:

No, I know what panel he was talking about. I think he was immitating Mr. Tummnus or something. Even though it makes no sense given how his powers work. But eh, it's Winick.


Winick didn't do the art.

I found the issue dissapointing as I've already stated. The art didn't suit and the writing was mediocre, but I'm hoping the book will improve once this first 'get them together' arc is over. I'll be sticking with the book until at least another arcbecause I know Churchill is suposed to be back and I know Winick can do better. If it still fails after the second arc, then I'll drop it.

[Beast]

Winick didn't do the art.
He does do the script. You know, what the artists draw the book from.

[Joe Franklin]

I like the book, but I am also a huge fan of jerkish/goofball Superheroes, and Winick writes great jerks and goofballs.

[griff1014]

Issue 2 was horrible...
I will stick around for another issue or two to see if it gets anywhere
This lineup of Titans hold a special place in my heart....
Too bad they are wasting good potentials

[Sir Tim Drake]

Winick didn't do the art.

I found the issue dissapointing as I've already stated. The art didn't suit and the writing was mediocre, but I'm hoping the book will improve once this first 'get them together' arc is over. I'll be sticking with the book until at least another arcbecause I know Churchill is suposed to be back and I know Winick can do better. If it still fails after the second arc, then I'll drop it.

If people don't like this series, then they ought to just not buy it, rather than waiting for it to possibly improve. It's more likely to get better if it doesn't sell well, because then DC will have a reason to replace Winick with a good writer.

[Gottaluvit]

If people don't like this series, then they ought to just not buy it, rather than waiting for it to possibly improve. It's more likely to get better if it doesn't sell well, because then DC will have a reason to replace Winick with a good writer.

Plenty of runs have an arc or two that aren't that great. I've been around long enough to have seen many new titles start out slow and improve after the first arc or so, especially when fan opinion shows the need for it to improve. I never bail ship over just one arc, especially when I love the characters as much as I do these ones.

Winick is a good writer, he's capable of much better then this and I'll give him a chance to show that before I drop the book. The art was a great dissapointment for me, but Benetiz is only filling in until Churchill recovers and returns. I can be patient and wait for the regular artist to come back.

[Gottaluvit]

He does do the script. You know, what the artists draw the book from.

Yes he does. I take it you have a copy of that script for you to know that Winick told Benetiz to draw Gar as a 'cartoony goat with a cape' and didn't just ask him to draw a 'goat'.

Anyway, there are these folks called 'editors' that are ultimately responsible for catching and ordering corrections of these kinds of mistakes. Thats where the final fault lays.

[OBrianTallent]

This was with out a doubt the most disappointing book I have read in a long long time. The art wasn't that bad, but there were times when it veered off into fairy tale land.

I have to wonder if Winick might not be trying to cope the fantastic and quirky Justice League International series. It took serious characters and put them into serious situations with copious amounts of humor. What we got was...dismal in my opinion.

[Pól Rua]

I didn't like the first issue, but yet, I'll be buying the second.

I enjoy the characters, and don't want DC to lose faith in them.

I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. :/

You don't need to feel like that at all.
DC will continue to use the characters whether this series bombs or not, so there's no worry there. If you're not enjoying a comic, don't buy it. Heaven knows, there are plenty of OTHER comics out there that ARE good.
And if you really like the characters, wouldn't you rather read a GOOD series about them?

[Ghost Shark]

I'd rather re-read Countdown than read another issue of Titans.

[Alphaxman]

did anyone else find it sad that all the other ex-Titans needed help with their demons but the A-team didn't or at least it seemed they didn't. Oh and I co-sign with everyone else who hated this issues. These Titans deserve so much better then this.

[OBrianTallent]

did anyone else find it sad that all the other ex-Titans needed help with their demons but the A-team didn't or at least it seemed they didn't. Oh and I co-sign with everyone else who hated this issues. These Titans deserve so much better then this.

Yes, I got that also. It was interesting that powerhouses like Red Star and Damage were lain out cold by critters (with Batman taking out the monster that took down Damage...?) but even Gar didn't have any problem apparently taking out his own monster.
Maybe we are supposed to fill in the blank that after Kory fought her demon, she found Nightwing and helped him with his and they found Gar then Flash, then Roy and so on. But that is part of the problem with this series already. We have three issues (Titans East Special, #1 and #2) with absolutely nothing shown but what should have been twenty two pages stretched out into over three times that much.
I really really wanted to like this series. These are the teen heroes I grew up with from the original Teen Titans to the New Teen Titans to now...and this is just...bad.
I think it was on the DC boards that someone said at least it wasn't as bad as Devin's run...I actually liked her stint on the previous "Titans" series. Heck, even the DEOrphans were better than this.

[Reynard]

You are not Joss Whedon. Your dialogue is not funny. Please stop ruining the Titans.

Sincerely,
Reynard

[Mr.EZ]

P.S

Gar can't change into funny goat cartoons in capes, please knock it off.

[Reynard]

P.P.S. On the upside, in two whole issues no one turned gay, got cancer or was denied their civil rights.

[Pól Rua]

Who are you and what have you done with that guy who wrote Barry Ween?
He was a funny bugger.

[Sir Tim Drake]

P.P.P.S. Tasteful nudity is fine, but blatant fanservice is not.

P.P.P.P.S. There is no reason why Kory shouldn't speak in contractions.

[UniqueFrequency]

Who are you and what have you done with that guy who wrote Barry Ween?
He was a funny bugger.

I was going to say the same thing. I was such a fan of Winick in the Barry Ween, Frumpy the Clown, Pedro and Me days.... what the hell happened since then?!

[TotalWorldDomination]

P.P.P.P.P.S. The Real World Sucked.

[The Xenos]

I think it was on the DC boards that someone said at least it wasn't as bad as Devin's run...I actually liked her stint on the previous "Titans" series. Heck, even the DEOrphans were better than this.
I read that series with little to no history of the Titans, only reading Nightwing. I forget how it stands up. I remember losing interest. Yet at the very least, that Titans had some decent art. If I remember right, it was freaking Mark Buckingham on pencils.
The artwork on this book looks awful. Plus it's issue 2 (or is it 3? I can't tell) and we've already got a whole new artist.
P.S Gar can't change into funny goat cartoons in capes, please knock it off.
You mean he isn't a Plastic Man knockoff? Maybe someone should tell Winick. Naw. I mean it's not like it's someone job to tell a writer these things. You'd need someone to do that. Someone to edit the comic book. It's not like there's some kinda of edit person at DC for these things. That's crazy talk. An edit.. or? Who ever heard of such a thing at DC. Someone to watch out for mistakes a writer makes? What's the point?
did anyone else find it sad that all the other ex-Titans needed help with their demons but the A-team didn't or at least it seemed they didn't.
They were so good, they defeated these incredible monsters off panel! They're that good!
P.P.P.P.P.S. The Real World Sucked.
[sarcasm] Well, clearly your a fascist homophobe. Because clearly if you disagree with that show that's what you are. It's not a matter of taste. It's a fact. If you dislike this reality show, you're a bigot. [/ sarcasm] :rolleyes:

[OzBat!]

I bought the book out of morbid curiousity over everybody's uniform dogpiling on its horrendous badness. And was not disappointed... it IS as bad as everybody says!

I do have to give one correction though... Gar wasn't a goat with a cape. It took a bit of investigation, but working in conjunction with the topic he was discussing, I must conclude he changed into a demon. The goat-horned variety. The cape was actually wings.

Now, I remember Gar doing this at the end of Marv's run, under the influence of the trigon seeds, but I thought once he was freed he was back to his restrictions of using actual, real animals... nothing from the land of make believe. Is that still the case, or have they changed it yet again?

[Mr.EZ]

I do have to give one correction though... Gar wasn't a goat with a cape. It took a bit of investigation, but working in conjunction with the topic he was discussing, I must conclude he changed into a demon. The goat-horned variety. The cape was actually wings.


I'd look at my copy to confirm, but the truck already came to pick up the recycling.

[tumfp]

It might've been meant to work in conjunction with the dialogue, but Gar most definitely changed into a goat with a cape and gloves.

[mightiness]

This story was sucked. God I hate DC sometimes. They have the best talent pool in terms of characters but always stick writer's on a title that just don't get it. Trials of Shazam is a perfect example of missing the boat completely. Titans is one of DC's best franchises which even rivaled X-men in popularity at one point but they don't seem to know how to choose the right combination of writers or artists to work on these titles and actually have them be successful. Seriously I have a great affinity for DC characters and the titles but they clearly IMO do not know how to use them properly.

[titanfan]

Now, I remember Gar doing this at the end of Marv's run, under the influence of the trigon seeds, but I thought once he was freed he was back to his restrictions of using actual, real animals... nothing from the land of make believe. Is that still the case, or have they changed it yet again?

Once Gar was freed from his Trigon seed, presumably it was back to only animals.

How do you screw up the dialogue/personality of the Titans, characters with tons of characterization over the past decade?

How do you write a Titans story with Trigon and make him come across like a laughable villain?

[Kage Kisaragi]

Man, I was all for a 2nd issue but that WAS FREAKING HORRIBLE!

It was hard to even stomach it, .... THIS is the first time I've read a comic I thought I'd like and felt this god awful. Raven's dialog was so atrocious I can't believe the editors signed off on it. The artwork wasn't that much better either, I found myself some what disgusted at it. Say what you will about Churchill but my god I would have preferred that than what I did get. Tell me I'm not the only one who feels this way.

I couldn't even follow the dialog between Kory and Cyborg, and I don't know why they reiterated that he was dead, or how Cyborg didn't even give a hint as to how he felt Power Boy was dirty. The guy is from Apoklisp what do you expect?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Dear Dan Didio,

You are not Jim Shooter. He was an editor. You cleary are not. Stop kissing Judd Winick's ass and start editing this book.Or do you want your name to be on horrible trash books ?

[Usernamessd]

Dear Dan Didio,

You are not Jim Shooter. He was an editor. You cleary are not. Stop kissing Judd Winick's ass and start editing this book.Or do you want your name to be on horrible trash books ?

I don't like this book but if it sells and makes money then ofcourse it'll continue and i don't see Didio's name on the book and just because you don't like it doesn't mean other people don't please stop trying to make your opinion fact.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I don't like this book but if it sells and makes money then ofcourse it'll continue and i don't see Didio's name on the book and just because you don't like it doesn't mean other people don't please stop trying to make your opinion fact.

You haven't read a lot of the anger have ya ? Its not just little ole me claiming this book is horse shit. Its a lot of people...I skimmed thru a few issues in the LCS today...and its pretty freakin bad.

And Didio its said was gonna be the main editor on this book. Thats what made it more comical. DC's EIC is putting his name on a horrible as hell book. If he's removed his name from it and all...he must have gotten sense...since he knew we'd all be laughin our asses off at him.

[Kage Kisaragi]

You haven't read a lot of the anger have ya ? Its not just little ole me claiming this book is horse shit. Its a lot of people...I skimmed thru a few issues in the LCS today...and its pretty freakin bad.

And Didio its said was gonna be the main editor on this book. Thats what made it more comical. DC's EIC is putting his name on a horrible as hell book. If he's removed his name from it and all...he must have gotten sense...since he knew we'd all be laughin our asses off at him.

Didio wasn't the editor on the 2nd issue anyway, doesn't change the matter that it was written horribly though. I mean again Titan's East and Issue 1 were okay by my standards but issue 2 was seriously bad.. Can someone tell me who Nightwing was saying "Yes way!" too? Cause I didn't see anyone saying No way prior to this panel.

[KJ_81]

Okay, now I've read the second issue.

I cannot drop this book fast enough. I honestly cannot tell you the last comic I actually couldn't fully read, I think this is a first.

The writing in combination with the atrocious art (I normally like Benitez, wth happened?) means I'm staying at least 5 miles away from this book at all times.

I enjoyed Judd's GL run quite a bit, and I've never really had a dislike of his work like other people, but this is just........ech....

[TheCrisisKid]

This is the only comic book that I've read in a long time where I've actually stopped reading the comic, and said outloud, "I totally don't like the art". Seriously, it looked like something you'd see in MAD magazine.

[Kage Kisaragi]

could it be this was all deliberate?

[estee]

The dialogue was lame.

The characterisation was off.

The art was terrible.

So I guess I didn't like it.

Though Raven did have one clever line..."Where the hell am I and what the hell am I wearing?" But that doesn't help lift this book.

[COMIC GEEK]

well yeah the art was horrible, but otherwise the story wasnt all that bad. it was nice to see some past titans as well and even garth getting mentioned.

im looking foward to #3

[stealthwise]

If you enjoyed issue #2 of Teen Titans, please contact me via PM and I will pay for a full year's subscription and complete steriliza... um, just the subscription, nothing else. I mean, it's not like we wouldn't want you procreating ever, just for liking a terribly horrible (or toridble) comic, right? That's a bit extreme eh? Yeah, yeah... just the subscription, no funny stuff here... Pick up your subscription tab in the alley behind 2347 4th Ave NE, New York, NY (wear loose pants).

[Hawkman]

I said in the Shipping Thread that I wasn't impressed with the first issue, but I wouldn't be dropping the series until the first arc had concluded unless this issue was absolutely abysmal... This is pretty darn close.

When opening the book, I was prepared for Benitez's art based on all the negative comments it had been getting. Initially I didn't find it that bad, but with each page turned it got progressively worse. I don't find Benitez's work particularly bad perse, but his style is pretty unique and doesn't work at all for this title.

Then there's the writing. I now understand what DiDio meant when he said Titans was going to be like Friends with superheroes. The dialogue here tries so desperately to be witty that Winick seems to disregard completely where these characters are in their lives, what they're currently trying to do, and how dire the circumstances are that they presently find themselves. It doesn't help matters that said witty dialogue fails to be just that to begin with.

So in regards to #3, I'll pick it up and gloss through it in the shop. If it looks jaw-droppingly great, I'll buy it, but otherwise I'll be reading some feedback on it first before plunking down the cash. Considering the quality of this issue, I doubt #3 will sell out in record time.

[Jack Zodiac]

could it be this was all deliberate?

It's post post modernism! "We're gonna write a book so !@#$ing bad, they'll have to buy it!"

[The Xenos]

Then there's the writing. I now understand what DiDio meant when he said Titans was going to be like Friends with superheroes.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7785/awesome008ne1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


-twitch- -twitch-

[Gottaluvit]

could it be this was all deliberate?

Considering Didio's dislike of ex-sidekick's and characters he considers 'redundant', it crossed my mind that this was an attempt to make the fanbase not care, thus he can kill them off without having to reverse the desicion like he did with Nightwing and he can use the justification that he gave us a book with these characters and nobody wanted it.

And I'm only half joking.

[OzBat!]

could it be this was all deliberate?

Only if DC was on a covert mission to destroy one of its best-loved franchises and spite all the people who grew up with these characters and...

...wait. I think you're on to something.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Only if DC was on a covert mission to destroy one of its best-loved franchises and spite all the people who grew up with these characters and...

...wait. I think you're on to something.

This will be the turkey that tanks the Franchise. Write it down...when the franchise Johns built is cancelled (both books due to sales falling so horrible shit low) and we all ask .."How did it get this bad again ?"

We'll have to basically point to the decision by DC's EIC who felt that the Titans should be "Friends" with superpowers. And proceeded to edit and publish a book so horrible it alienated everyone from the Titans characters.

[Blueferret]

Ummmm,.....What the hell did I just read????? That was quite possibly the lowest point the Titans have been for some time. Good job making Raven look like a whore with cornrows. As much as people bitch about Winnick, how does he keep getting jobs? He's become the current Chuck Austin, IMO. The Garfield/Vic Stone conversation was horrible.These are two dear friends and it was just a mean spirited conversation.

My faith in the Titans hasn't been this low since the end of vol.2 with the Jaaska art in it.

[the4thpip]

I bought the book out of morbid curiousity over everybody's uniform dogpiling on its horrendous badness. And was not disappointed... it IS as bad as everybody says!

I do have to give one correction though... Gar wasn't a goat with a cape. It took a bit of investigation, but working in conjunction with the topic he was discussing, I must conclude he changed into a demon. The goat-horned variety. The cape was actually wings.

Now, I remember Gar doing this at the end of Marv's run, under the influence of the trigon seeds, but I thought once he was freed he was back to his restrictions of using actual, real animals... nothing from the land of make believe. Is that still the case, or have they changed it yet again?

No, he was actually a goat with a cape. And I don't think any of the demons that Trigon-Seed-Gar turned into came with accessories.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll102/the4thpip/beastboy.jpg

[Blueferret]

Double Post

[Beast]

No, he was actually a goat with a cape. And I don't think any of the demons that Trigon-Seed-Gar turned into came with accessories.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll102/the4thpip/beastboy.jpg
Again, Winick must be confused and think he's still writing Morph.

[OzBat!]

They're bat wings I tell you! It's the only way it works! Baaaaaat winnnnnngss!!!

*breaks down and sobs hysterically*

[Binker]

By Nathaniel Ruff (also known as Binker and Nate on many forums)

TITANS #2

Written by Judd Winick
Art and Cover by Joe Benitez and Victor Llamas
Edited by Eddie Berganza

PLOT:
The Titans hunt continues as all known Titans are being stalked and attacked! Can Nightwing, Beast Boy, Raven, Cyborg, Starfire, Red Arrow, and Donna Troy survive long enough to discover the identity of their mysterious foe?

REVIEW:
My first review to the first issue to a new Titans book was a great beginning for the new series. Throughout my review, I had to repeatedly point out that you guys DON'T need Titans East to understand the first issue, or even the story, of this story arc. The responses proved that point so I was glad to reach everyone's minds. Each of our cast of characters were reintroduced, or introduced for new readers, nicely to get them going onto the story. One of the things that came out in-between the first issue and the second was the artwork. The artwork was so great in issue #1, that the change in the artist for issue #2 made us how the art would be for the rest of the arc. I did check out Joe Benitez' artwork, and his is fine (though his Wonder Woman is a mix of Amazon and Anorexia). I just wonder how everyone would feel, even me, when we see the pages to issue #2. With that in mind, here is issue #2!

First off, the art: since that was one of the things first talked about before the second issue came out, I felt I should mention it first before I continue on. Well, the art happens to be fine. I have no problem with it, it is still very good. I doubt anyone else would, unless they compared it to the artwork from the first issue where that art would win. But the artwork from this issue, to whenever Joe Benitez stays on the book, happens to be fine. Now, back to the issue itself. This issue at first seems to be filler, but in all honestly, it really isn't. The focus is on Raven talking to her father, Trigon. And the revelation revealed at the end that Trigon has a son, if not sons, helping him in his mission to rule Earth. After saving Argent, another ex-Titan, one of our main characters that was only briefly seen in the first issue, gets a slight spotlight: Cyborg. We learn, unless this was something in Titans East, that he put Power Boy on the team to keep an eye on him over the idea that he might've been dirty. But now that he is dead, he is blaming himself. Looking at the third issue, something tells me that what has happened will be in Cyborg's head for that issue, and maybe in the fourth as that ends the arc.

Overall, there isn't really anything else to say about this issue. It was still good, as we did have some developments mainly from Raven. But it can feel a bit of a filler, but that didn't last much as you continue on with the story of the issue. With issue #2, the first half of this arc is done, now we begin the second half with the next two issues, starting with issue #3 next!

RATING: Yay

Next Issue: Random hook-ups, internal fighting, envy…

[Pixie_Solanas]

By Nathaniel Ruff (also known as Binker and Nate on many forums)

TITANS #2

Written by Judd Winick
Art and Cover by Joe Benitez and Victor Llamas
Edited by Eddie Berganza

PLOT:
The Titans hunt continues as all known Titans are being stalked and attacked! Can Nightwing, Beast Boy, Raven, Cyborg, Starfire, Red Arrow, and Donna Troy survive long enough to discover the identity of their mysterious foe?

REVIEW:
My first review to the first issue to a new Titans book was a great beginning for the new series. Throughout my review, I had to repeatedly point out that you guys DON'T need Titans East to understand the first issue, or even the story, of this story arc. The responses proved that point so I was glad to reach everyone's minds. Each of our cast of characters were reintroduced, or introduced for new readers, nicely to get them going onto the story. One of the things that came out in-between the first issue and the second was the artwork. The artwork was so great in issue #1, that the change in the artist for issue #2 made us how the art would be for the rest of the arc. I did check out Joe Benitez' artwork, and his is fine (though his Wonder Woman is a mix of Amazon and Anorexia). I just wonder how everyone would feel, even me, when we see the pages to issue #2. With that in mind, here is issue #2!

First off, the art: since that was one of the things first talked about before the second issue came out, I felt I should mention it first before I continue on. Well, the art happens to be fine. I have no problem with it, it is still very good. I doubt anyone else would, unless they compared it to the artwork from the first issue where that art would win. But the artwork from this issue, to whenever Joe Benitez stays on the book, happens to be fine. Now, back to the issue itself. This issue at first seems to be filler, but in all honestly, it really isn't. The focus is on Raven talking to her father, Trigon. And the revelation revealed at the end that Trigon has a son, if not sons, helping him in his mission to rule Earth. After saving Argent, another ex-Titan, one of our main characters that was only briefly seen in the first issue, gets a slight spotlight: Cyborg. We learn, unless this was something in Titans East, that he put Power Boy on the team to keep an eye on him over the idea that he might've been dirty. But now that he is dead, he is blaming himself. Looking at the third issue, something tells me that what has happened will be in Cyborg's head for that issue, and maybe in the fourth as that ends the arc.

Overall, there isn't really anything else to say about this issue. It was still good, as we did have some developments mainly from Raven. But it can feel a bit of a filler, but that didn't last much as you continue on with the story of the issue. With issue #2, the first half of this arc is done, now we begin the second half with the next two issues, starting with issue #3 next!

RATING: Yay

Next Issue: Random hook-ups, internal fighting, envy…


is there a comic you haven't "yay"ed?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

is there a comic you haven't "yay"ed?

Titans #2 gets a "Yay ?" On what planet is this considered a good book ? Yeah , I can take GA/BC fans telling me they enjoy goofy Oliver Queen now , but goofy stupied , over sexed Titans modeled after a TV series ?

[Sir Tim Drake]

By Nathaniel Ruff (also known as Binker and Nate on many forums)

TITANS #2

Written by Judd Winick
Art and Cover by Joe Benitez and Victor Llamas
Edited by Eddie Berganza

PLOT:
The Titans hunt continues as all known Titans are being stalked and attacked! Can Nightwing, Beast Boy, Raven, Cyborg, Starfire, Red Arrow, and Donna Troy survive long enough to discover the identity of their mysterious foe?

REVIEW:
My first review to the first issue to a new Titans book was a great beginning for the new series. Throughout my review, I had to repeatedly point out that you guys DON'T need Titans East to understand the first issue, or even the story, of this story arc. The responses proved that point so I was glad to reach everyone's minds. Each of our cast of characters were reintroduced, or introduced for new readers, nicely to get them going onto the story. One of the things that came out in-between the first issue and the second was the artwork. The artwork was so great in issue #1, that the change in the artist for issue #2 made us how the art would be for the rest of the arc. I did check out Joe Benitez' artwork, and his is fine (though his Wonder Woman is a mix of Amazon and Anorexia). I just wonder how everyone would feel, even me, when we see the pages to issue #2. With that in mind, here is issue #2!

First off, the art: since that was one of the things first talked about before the second issue came out, I felt I should mention it first before I continue on. Well, the art happens to be fine. I have no problem with it, it is still very good. I doubt anyone else would, unless they compared it to the artwork from the first issue where that art would win. But the artwork from this issue, to whenever Joe Benitez stays on the book, happens to be fine. Now, back to the issue itself. This issue at first seems to be filler, but in all honestly, it really isn't. The focus is on Raven talking to her father, Trigon. And the revelation revealed at the end that Trigon has a son, if not sons, helping him in his mission to rule Earth. After saving Argent, another ex-Titan, one of our main characters that was only briefly seen in the first issue, gets a slight spotlight: Cyborg. We learn, unless this was something in Titans East, that he put Power Boy on the team to keep an eye on him over the idea that he might've been dirty. But now that he is dead, he is blaming himself. Looking at the third issue, something tells me that what has happened will be in Cyborg's head for that issue, and maybe in the fourth as that ends the arc.

Overall, there isn't really anything else to say about this issue. It was still good, as we did have some developments mainly from Raven. But it can feel a bit of a filler, but that didn't last much as you continue on with the story of the issue. With issue #2, the first half of this arc is done, now we begin the second half with the next two issues, starting with issue #3 next!

RATING: Yay

Next Issue: Random hook-ups, internal fighting, envy…

This doesn't really qualify as a review. All you do is summarize the plot twice, and describe the artwork as "fine." You don't provide any information as to the specific reasons why you liked the issue. Also, you say you doubt anyone would have a problem with the artwork, but based on the present thread, it seems as though many people do have problems with the artwork.

[Nick Soapdish]

This doesn't really qualify as a review. All you do is summarize the plot twice, and describe the artwork as "fine." You don't provide any information as to the specific reasons why you liked the issue. Also, you say you doubt anyone would have a problem with the artwork, but based on the present thread, it seems as though many people do have problems with the artwork.

Maybe they don't count as somebodies.

[Mr.EZ]

Again, Winick must be confused and think he's still writing Morph.

I can see how that can happen. Green teenager that changes into animals, and an albino mutant shapeshifter.

Same difference. I hope he gets to write Superman so we can see Clark talk about how he's the best at what he does.

[OzBat!]

BAAAAAAAAAAAT WIIIINNNNNNNNNNGSSSSS!!

*sob*

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I can see how that can happen. Green teenager that changes into animals, and an albino mutant shapeshifter.

Same difference. I hope he gets to write Superman so we can see Clark talk about how he's the best at what he does.

I want Winick to write Superman so he can discuss the kryptonite condom and Lois discussing how good the sex life is with Supes.

[Mr.EZ]

BAAAAAAAAAAAT WIIIINNNNNNNNNNGSSSSS!!

*sob*

Bat wings don't tie around the neck, and he's wearing cartoon gloves. He's a goat in a cape wearing gloves. :tongue:

[Thnikkaman]

This doesn't really qualify as a review. .

Neither does anything else in this thread. I see about 10% criticism, 88% cheap drive-bys and ad-hominems, and 2% cereal fillers.

[Nick Soapdish]

Neither does anything else in this thread. I see about 10% criticism, 88% cheap drive-bys and ad-hominems, and 2% cereal fillers.

There are a lot of posts (not mine) that are giving fairly specific criticisms about what they disliked about the issue. They aren't a review of the issue, but then again, they aren't claiming to be a review of the issue. They're just discussing it which I believe is the point of the thread.

[the4thpip]

Neither does anything else in this thread. I see about 10% criticism, 88% cheap drive-bys and ad-hominems, and 2% cereal fillers.

People pointed out continuity gaffes (Bumblebee in old costume and human-sized, "Arthur" looking for Garth, the ages of the various female Titans, Beast Boy's powers), illogical and hence bad plotting (how can Batman defeat a huge demon that was too much for the "big bang" powerful Damage?) and the horrid, horrid dialog.

Because the posts are angry does not mean they're not valid. It just means this book is so bad it makes people angry.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Because the posts are angry does not mean they're not valid. It just means this book is so bad it makes people angry.

I mean seriously, I was so mad at Raven's dialog that I didn't even pay attention to all the other errors that you and others have pointed out.. Though I did subconsciously find that Batman / Damage thing kind of weird. I don't know much about older former titans like Bumble Bee so I wouldn't have recognized any problem other than I thought she was tiny.
Come to think of it though I'm not so sure Raven was drawn as a teenager either.

[Mr.EZ]

Neither does anything else in this thread. I see about 10% criticism, 88% cheap drive-bys and ad-hominems, and 2% cereal fillers.

It's always been said that I stay crunchy in milk, and now I know why.

[KJ_81]

By Nathaniel Ruff (also known as Binker and Nate on many forums)

TITANS #2

Written by Judd Winick
Art and Cover by Joe Benitez and Victor Llamas
Edited by Eddie Berganza

PLOT:
The Titans hunt continues as all known Titans are being stalked and attacked! Can Nightwing, Beast Boy, Raven, Cyborg, Starfire, Red Arrow, and Donna Troy survive long enough to discover the identity of their mysterious foe?

REVIEW:
My first review to the first issue to a new Titans book was a great beginning for the new series. Throughout my review, I had to repeatedly point out that you guys DON'T need Titans East to understand the first issue, or even the story, of this story arc. The responses proved that point so I was glad to reach everyone's minds. Each of our cast of characters were reintroduced, or introduced for new readers, nicely to get them going onto the story. One of the things that came out in-between the first issue and the second was the artwork. The artwork was so great in issue #1, that the change in the artist for issue #2 made us how the art would be for the rest of the arc. I did check out Joe Benitez' artwork, and his is fine (though his Wonder Woman is a mix of Amazon and Anorexia). I just wonder how everyone would feel, even me, when we see the pages to issue #2. With that in mind, here is issue #2!

First off, the art: since that was one of the things first talked about before the second issue came out, I felt I should mention it first before I continue on. Well, the art happens to be fine. I have no problem with it, it is still very good. I doubt anyone else would, unless they compared it to the artwork from the first issue where that art would win. But the artwork from this issue, to whenever Joe Benitez stays on the book, happens to be fine. Now, back to the issue itself. This issue at first seems to be filler, but in all honestly, it really isn't. The focus is on Raven talking to her father, Trigon. And the revelation revealed at the end that Trigon has a son, if not sons, helping him in his mission to rule Earth. After saving Argent, another ex-Titan, one of our main characters that was only briefly seen in the first issue, gets a slight spotlight: Cyborg. We learn, unless this was something in Titans East, that he put Power Boy on the team to keep an eye on him over the idea that he might've been dirty. But now that he is dead, he is blaming himself. Looking at the third issue, something tells me that what has happened will be in Cyborg's head for that issue, and maybe in the fourth as that ends the arc.

Overall, there isn't really anything else to say about this issue. It was still good, as we did have some developments mainly from Raven. But it can feel a bit of a filler, but that didn't last much as you continue on with the story of the issue. With issue #2, the first half of this arc is done, now we begin the second half with the next two issues, starting with issue #3 next!

RATING: Yay

Next Issue: Random hook-ups, internal fighting, envy…

Umm...you didn't actually review the book. You summarised its contents.

Yay?

[GremlinClr]

Sorry in advance for the typos but that art was so bad my eyes are still bleeding and that makes the screen all blurry.

So will Churchill be back sometime soon? Please?

[protege]

It's always been said that I stay crunchy in milk, and now I know why.

That's great, but do you turn bright pink?:wink:

[MNM]

You are not Joss Whedon. Your dialogue is not funny. Please stop ruining the Titans.


Whedon's dialogue isnt funny.

Picked this book up today and liked it. Clealry it is not to everyone's tastes but I like the art, I like the style of it and I like the story so far, it's interesting to me and I want to see where it goes.

This is becoming one of the more enjoyable books I pick up!

[Hawkman]

That's great, but do you turn bright pink?:wink:
Only when he eats six bowls of it with a gallon of chocolate milk.

[the4thpip]

By Nathaniel Ruff (also known as Binker and Nate on many forums)

TITANS #2

Written by Judd Winick
Art and Cover by Joe Benitez and Victor Llamas
Edited by Eddie Berganza

PLOT:
The Titans hunt continues as all known Titans are being stalked and attacked! Can Nightwing, Beast Boy, Raven, Cyborg, Starfire, Red Arrow, and Donna Troy survive long enough to discover the identity of their mysterious foe?

REVIEW:
My first review to the first issue to a new Titans book was a great beginning for the new series. Throughout my review, I had to repeatedly point out that you guys DON'T need Titans East to understand the first issue, or even the story, of this story arc. The responses proved that point so I was glad to reach everyone's minds. Each of our cast of characters were reintroduced, or introduced for new readers, nicely to get them going onto the story. One of the things that came out in-between the first issue and the second was the artwork. The artwork was so great in issue #1, that the change in the artist for issue #2 made us how the art would be for the rest of the arc. I did check out Joe Benitez' artwork, and his is fine (though his Wonder Woman is a mix of Amazon and Anorexia). I just wonder how everyone would feel, even me, when we see the pages to issue #2. With that in mind, here is issue #2!

First off, the art: since that was one of the things first talked about before the second issue came out, I felt I should mention it first before I continue on. Well, the art happens to be fine. I have no problem with it, it is still very good. I doubt anyone else would, unless they compared it to the artwork from the first issue where that art would win. But the artwork from this issue, to whenever Joe Benitez stays on the book, happens to be fine. Now, back to the issue itself. This issue at first seems to be filler, but in all honestly, it really isn't. The focus is on Raven talking to her father, Trigon. And the revelation revealed at the end that Trigon has a son, if not sons, helping him in his mission to rule Earth. After saving Argent, another ex-Titan, one of our main characters that was only briefly seen in the first issue, gets a slight spotlight: Cyborg. We learn, unless this was something in Titans East, that he put Power Boy on the team to keep an eye on him over the idea that he might've been dirty. But now that he is dead, he is blaming himself. Looking at the third issue, something tells me that what has happened will be in Cyborg's head for that issue, and maybe in the fourth as that ends the arc.

Overall, there isn't really anything else to say about this issue. It was still good, as we did have some developments mainly from Raven. But it can feel a bit of a filler, but that didn't last much as you continue on with the story of the issue. With issue #2, the first half of this arc is done, now we begin the second half with the next two issues, starting with issue #3 next!

RATING: Yay

Next Issue: Random hook-ups, internal fighting, envy…

Maybe it's because English is not my native language, but I find your reviews very hard to read. I'd prefer fewer ron-on sentences, less redunant repition of the same info and more beef to the actual review than just a plot summary. You described Benitez' artwork as "fine" twice - was that really necessary and stylistically endearing, let alone accurate?

[Taskmaster]

This issue was much better than the last, but the art...................not so much. Hurry back Ian!

[Gottaluvit]

I want Winick to write Superman so he can discuss the kryptonite condom and Lois discussing how good the sex life is with Supes.

He's almost as fast as Wally. Super Speed could be a downfall in his case....but, then again, he can vibrate...

[mgs]

I actually liked this, even with some of the immature dialogue. :)

[the4thpip]

I actually liked this, even with some of the immature dialogue. :)

That is quite sad, but not awesome at all.

[Sir Tim Drake]

I'll make fun of Jemas for hours and hours, but at least Marville was written knowing full well it was a terrible joke of a book. Winick and Didio honestly believe they're doing something good with this book, and that's way worse.

After looking at the issue in the store, I think you're right. Titans #2 is actually worse than Marville. I didn't think anything could ever be worse than Marville, but I've been proven wrong. In other words, I thought the bottom had been reached, and then Winick and Benitez threw me a shovel.

At least Marville had serviceable artwork, and Marville didn't take a once-proud franchise and run it into the ground. Neither of those things is true of Titans #2.

[COMIC GEEK]

I actually liked this, even with some of the immature dialogue. :)


I enjoyed it as well

[mgs]

That is quite sad, but not awesome at all.

lol! ;)I enjoyed it as well

and ironicaly, we are both from Long Island! :)

[COMIC GEEK]

lol! ;)

and ironicaly, we are both from Long Island! :)


must be the water. :wink:

but im still looking foward to #3