RITA's LXII: Painting My Age with Beauty of Thy Days.

[morna]

yesterday:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i14/mornagary/mpainting042.jpg

[kmeyers]

My calculations would make your world explode.


I stood up and walked out of (and dropped) a class where my teacher opened up with, "Art is like math." That was it for me. To me, art is the opposite of math. So I wanted nothing to do with that teacher.

[morna]

So they're basically oil pastels?

nope! They are oil paint in bar form - the main functional difference being that pastels never dry. These guys do.

[Chris Nowlin]

I stood up and walked out of (and dropped) a class where my teacher opened up with, "Art is like math." That was it for me. To me, art is the opposite of math. So I wanted nothing to do with that teacher.

I'm certain you've told this story before.

I think it led to us arguing, but then I needed to leave to go drink or something.

And now I'm busy doing work.

[howyadoin]

yesterday:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i14/mornagary/mpainting042.jpgIron Man?


But seriously, I like that blue-purple transition in the upper left corner.

[morna]

today:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i14/mornagary/mpainting043.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i14/mornagary/mpainting045.jpg

[Paradox]

Well, the police just stopped by to tell me they caught my robbers in the act robbing a place about 10 miles south of here.

Three girls with fake guns.

Yeah, OK, here's my penis. :wink:

[howyadoin]

nope! They are oil paint in bar form - the main functional difference being that pastels never dry. These guys do.Ah, okay. That's a pretty significant difference.

I'd be pretty curious to see what a wash of colour would look like over that stuff.

I'm certain you've told this story before.Last week, maybe?

[mattx110]

I stood up and walked out of (and dropped) a class where my teacher opened up with, "Art is like math." That was it for me. To me, art is the opposite of math. So I wanted nothing to do with that teacher.
It sucks that you're wrong, and that you don't bother learning from people with different worldviews from yourself...
Life if like a box of chocolates, you don't know that you don't like the licorice cream until you try the licorice cream.

[DoctorDoom]

I stood up and walked out of (and dropped) a class where my teacher opened up with, "Art is like math." That was it for me. To me, art is the opposite of math. So I wanted nothing to do with that teacher.

Interesting.

I'm certain you've told this story before.

I think it led to us arguing, but then I needed to leave to go drink or something.

And now I'm busy doing work.

See what you've done, Kevin?

Now we all need a drink.

[kmeyers]

I'm certain you've told this story before.

I think it led to us arguing, but then I needed to leave to go drink or something.

And now I'm busy doing work.

I'm sure I have before too. And that's the reason I dropped the class. I didn't want to argue with the teacher all semester long.

[howyadoin]

Well, the police just stopped by to tell me they caught my robbers in the act robbing a place about 10 miles south of here.

Three girls with fake guns.

Yeah, OK, here's my penis. :wink:I hope they were at least hot girls.

[DoctorDoom]

Nice paintings, Morna!

[morna]

Iron Man?


But seriously, I like that blue-purple transition in the upper left corner.

Ha! ... huh there does seem to be a lot of red and goldish colour.... I blame my new paints. That yellow is the one I was talking to ... so wet so sexy.

[howyadoin]

Ha! ... huh there does seem to be a lot of red and goldish colour.... I blame my new paints. That yellow is the one I was talking to ... so wet so sexy.Do you refer to it as Mr. Jr.?

[morna]

Well, the police just stopped by to tell me they caught my robbers in the act robbing a place about 10 miles south of here.

Three girls with fake guns.

Yeah, OK, here's my penis. :wink:

owch .....!

[kmeyers]

It sucks that you're wrong, and that you don't bother learning from people with different worldviews from yourself...
Life if like a box of chocolates, you don't know that you don't like the licorice cream until you try the licorice cream.

Except his way of teaching, and my way of learning conflicted, and I knew this. Why waste money on direction that I KNOW isn't going to work for me?

[morna]

Do you refer to it as Mr. Jr.?

ha ha :tongue:

[mattx110]

Except his way of teaching, and my way of learning conflicted, and I knew this. Why waste money on direction that I KNOW isn't going to work for me?
Nothing isn't going to work unless you refuse the option. Everything is a choice. Anyway, your decision, just keep arting.

And I can't think of a film to watch. Anyone know a semi-recent (last 30 years) worth seeing?

[thespianphryne]

I stood up and walked out of (and dropped) a class where my teacher opened up with, "Art is like math." That was it for me. To me, art is the opposite of math. So I wanted nothing to do with that teacher.

Math is not the same as Arithmetics.


-Das

[Paradox]

kmeyers is a snob:

I stood up and walked out of (and dropped) a class where my teacher opened up with, "Art is like math." That was it for me. To me, art is the opposite of math. So I wanted nothing to do with that teacher.

So, you don't consider things like proportion, perspective, etc. to have anything to do with art?

[Paradox]

howyadoin has hopes:

I hope they were at least hot girls.

Beats me. They were all covered up and pretending to be guys (right down to the walk). I suppose I could check and see if there's any pics in the paper.

[kmeyers]

Nothing isn't going to work unless you refuse the option. Everything is a choice. Anyway, your decision, just keep arting.

And I can't think of a film to watch. Anyone know a semi-recent (last 30 years) worth seeing?

I'd come across the mathematical artist before, and this guy was getting paid to waste my time as far as I was concerned.

See There Will Be Blood, No Country For Old Men,for this year...or Pan's Labyrinth always gets me.

[mattx110]

Beats me. They were all covered up and pretending to be guys (right down to the walk). I suppose I could check and see if there's any pics in the paper.
Well, if you ask one of them out on a date, they're obviously paying.

[kmeyers]

Math is not the same as Arithmetics.


-Das

Except when it's being taught that way.

[DoctorDoom]

So, you don't consider things like proportion, perspective, etc. to have anything to do with art?
Oh, this should be fun.

[mattx110]

Oh, this should be fun.
I dunno. I'm trying to figure out a way to stop it before it begins.

Lest we get into my "math is disguised linguistics" argument. That'll take some pages to explain properly.

[Paradox]

kmeyers jumps like someone shot a gun behind him:

I'd come across the mathematical artist before, and this guy was getting paid to waste my time as far as I was concerned.

Wow, that's a pretty quick judgment based on one phrase that probably wasn't aimed at you in the least. I'm pretty sure he wasn't opening the day with "this is my rigid philosophy".

Unless, of course, that's not exactly what he said.

[kmeyers]

So, you don't consider things like proportion, perspective, etc. to have anything to do with art?

Not when I have to formulate a mathematical equation to draw or paint a line on the damn horizon.

Also how does color factor into the mathematical equation? +3 more blue = sky?

[mattx110]

Wow, that's a pretty quick judgment based on one phrase that probably wasn't aimed at you in the least. I'm pretty sure he wasn't opening the day with "this is my rigid philosophy".

Unless, of course, that's not exactly what he said.
Wouldn't it be funny if the second thing the prof. said was "wait... I mean, math is not like art" but km already walked out?

[Chris Nowlin]

Don't forget, math at its heart is about abstraction.

[howyadoin]

today:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i14/mornagary/mpainting043.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i14/mornagary/mpainting045.jpgThat top one make me think of 70s new wave album covers.

And I can't think of a film to watch. Anyone know a semi-recent (last 30 years) worth seeing?I bet morna can suggest one.

[Chris Nowlin]

The less something looks like anything, the more it looks like everything.

[Paradox]

mattx110 reverses social structure:

Well, if you ask one of them out on a date, they're obviously paying.

I'm kind of doubting they'll be dating anyone but their fellow inmates at the state prison for a while. Fake guns=real ones when it comes to felonies.

[DoctorDoom]

I dunno. I'm trying to figure out a way to stop it before it begins.

Too late for that.


Lest we get into my "math is disguised linguistics" argument. That'll take some pages to explain properly.

"Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's...."

[kmeyers]

Wow, that's a pretty quick judgment based on one phrase that probably wasn't aimed at you in the least. I'm pretty sure he wasn't opening the day with "this is my rigid philosophy".

Unless, of course, that's not exactly what he said.

I guess a lot of it is more based on a few friends justifying my original feelings after completing the class and hating it. I was a senior and didn't need that class. I just wanted another drawing class because I enjoyed it. So I really didn't want to deal with that.

[mattx110]

Not when I have to formulate a mathematical equation to draw or paint a line on the damn horizon.

Also how does color factor into the mathematical equation? +3 more blue = sky?
Regrettably, art is a very superstitious field. But, at the very least, even the most wishy-washy-philoso-post-modern-new-age professors promote learning technical proficiency and ways of working when inspiration doesn't hit.

Sometimes it's good to know what color the sky is, and where things should be in relation to the horizon from a different mode of thinking. Just in case.

[howyadoin]

Beats me. They were all covered up and pretending to be guys (right down to the walk).Jesus, they sound like serious criminals.

Also how does color factor into the mathematical equation?Well, there's CMYK and RGB...

The less something looks like anything, the more it looks like everything.I believe that was the heart of some of McCloud's theories in Understanding Comics.

[Paradox]

kmeyers reads into a lot:

Not when I have to formulate a mathematical equation to draw or paint a line on the damn horizon.

Also how does color factor into the mathematical equation? +3 more blue = sky?

Where do you get THAT from such a simple broad analogy?

EDIT: Ah, you had other info. OK.

[mattx110]

I'm kind of doubting they'll be dating anyone but their fellow inmates at the state prison for a while. Fake guns=real ones when it comes to felonies.
I wonder how many marriages are made in prison facilities. Someone oughta write a book.

[DoctorDoom]

Okay wait...Truce.

ELMS has just updated. It'll make you feel better.

[mattx110]

"Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's...."
And get me a baked potato in place of the fries...

[mattx110]

Okay wait...Truce.

ELMS has just updated. It'll make you feel better.
ELMS?

I feel I'm missing something.

[howyadoin]

I wonder how many marriages are made in prison facilities. Someone oughta write a book.They've already made lotsa movies. I remember a video store back East that had a whole section of chicks-in-jail flicks.

[mattx110]

They've already made lotsa movies. I remember a video store back East that had a whole section of chicks-in-jail flicks.
Documentary films, or "When the penal system gets anal" films?

[DoctorDoom]

They've already made lotsa movies. I remember a video store back East that had a whole section of chicks-in-jail flicks.
Sounds like a job for the aforementioned site.

[howyadoin]

Documentary films, or "When the penal system gets anal" films?http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071266

[morna]

The less something looks like anything, the more it looks like everything.

wow my philosophy encapsulated. Is that a quote or one of your own pearls. I may have to borrow it.

[kmeyers]

Regrettably, art is a very superstitious field. But, at the very least, even the most wishy-washy-philoso-post-modern-new-age professors promote learning technical proficiency and ways of working when inspiration doesn't hit.

Sometimes it's good to know what color the sky is, and where things should be in relation to the horizon from a different mode of thinking. Just in case.
What color is the sky?

[DoctorDoom]

What color is the sky?
9 Blue, and 4 black?

[Paradox]

howyadoin must've seen a few:

They've already made lotsa movies. I remember a video store back East that had a whole section of chicks-in-jail flicks.

Sure, "women in prison" is one of my favorite BAD MOVIE genres! Many of them starring Linda Blair or Sybil Danning. :biggrin:

Although my fave is "The Hot Box". SOOO stupid. SOOO exploitive! How did BJ Hunnicutt once put it? A Tintoretto in barf! :smile:

[mattx110]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071266
Wow, that man's career went downhill since then...

[DoctorDoom]

ELMS?

I feel I'm missing something.
You are. Go ask Howy.

[Chris Nowlin]

wow my philosophy encapsulated. Is that a quote or one of your own pearls. I may have to borrow it.

Beats me. I either made it up or stole it from somewhere. The idea certainly isn't mine. And I have no idea if the phrasing is.

I learned it either from a math book or from Scott McCloud. Not sure.

[Paradox]

howyadoin points one out:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071266

Har! The Hot Box (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068717/) is a Demme, too! :biggrin:

[mattx110]

What color is the sky?
It isn't. Any "pigment" of the sky is refracted light in the atmosphere.

You'd know that if you took the class.

You might also want to try the crayon labelled "sky blue".

[mattx110]

You are. Go ask Howy.
I'll just stalk him....:biggrin:

[howyadoin]

Har! The Hot Box (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068717/) is a Demme, too! :biggrin:Hah! "Their guns are hot and their bodies are hard!"

[DoctorDoom]

I'll just stalk him....:biggrin:
Better him than me.

[Chris Nowlin]

Beats me. I either made it up or stole it from somewhere. The idea certainly isn't mine. And I have no idea if the phrasing is.

I learned it either from a math book or from Scott McCloud. Not sure.

There's a lot of stuff in my head that I've developed for the classes I teach. It's what comes to me when I think about the lesson. I figure most of what comes to me comes from the recesses of memory and should be attributed to a book or teacher, but I tend to remember the idea and forget the context in which I learned it.

[thehod]

What color is the sky?

Apparently if you live in the DCU, 50% of the time its red.

[mattx110]

Better him than me.
Stalking you takes little work after I installed all those microphones and closed circuit cameras.

this is a joke

[howyadoin]

You are. Go ask Howy.Say what, now?

Better him than me.I must respectfully disagree.

[DoctorDoom]

Apparently if you live in the DCU, 50% of the time its red.
Ha! That's a good one.

[DoctorDoom]

Stalking you takes little work after I installed all those microphones and closed circuit cameras.

this is a joke
Go ahead and open your door. THere's a surprise for you.

[kmeyers]

9 Blue, and 4 black?

Not unless it's night-time.
But that's kind of my point actually. There are far too many variables going on to compare art to math or science in my opinion.

One of my favorite teachers asked the class what color the stormy, cloudy sky outside the window was. Most people said grey, or muted blue and or brown. He proceeded to show us through a watercolor painiting, that it was shades of orange.

[howyadoin]

Apparently if you live in the DCU, 50% of the time its red.You'd think that Superman's tears would wash it clean.

[DoctorDoom]

Say what, now?

ELMS! Have you forgotten my generosity? The Encyclopedia of.....

I must respectfully disagree.

But I must respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement.

[Chris Nowlin]

There are far too many variables going on to compare art to math or science in my opinion.


Far too many variables.

And thus it's not anything like math.

Because of too many variables.

[DoctorDoom]

You'd think that Superman's tears would wash it clean.
Hey! It takes a real man to cry...

And a Superman to cry a lot!

[DoctorDoom]

Not unless it's night-time.
But that's kind of my point actually. There are far too many variables going on to compare art to math or science in my opinion.

One of my favorite teachers asked the class what color the stormy, cloudy sky outside the window was. Most people said grey, or muted blue and or brown. He proceeded to show us through a watercolor painiting, that it was shades of orange.
I'm sorry, you didn't bother to multiply.

[kmeyers]

It isn't. Any "pigment" of the sky is refracted light in the atmosphere.

You'd know that if you took the class.

You might also want to try the crayon labelled "sky blue".

And painting is all about learning the language of light. Rainbows aren't solid constructs, but people still see their color.

[mattx110]

Hey! It takes a real man to cry...

And a Superman to cry a lot!
ahem.

it takes a lot to laugh, it takes kal-el to cry...

[kmeyers]

Far too many variables.

And thus it's not anything like math.

Because of too many variables.

Too many variables without a solid constant, then.

[mattx110]

And painting is all about learning the language of light. Rainbows aren't solid constructs, but people still see their color.
And it's math.... honest. It is. Hang out at a theater. Hang out at a printing press for a color publication. Heck, try photoshop.

It's totally math.

[howyadoin]

ELMS! Have you forgotten my generosity? The Encyclopedia of.....Oh, right. I forgot about your interest in that topic after whatshisname came along.

[DoctorDoom]

Too many variables without a solid constant, then.
That's what I said! :wink:

[mattx110]

Too many variables without a solid constant, then.
Ummmm... maybe you should take a couple math courses.

[DoctorDoom]

Oh, right. I forgot about your interest in that topic after whatshisname came along.
Now it's my turn to ask, "Huh?"

[kmeyers]

I'm sorry, you didn't bother to multiply.

I don't need to. Anytime you throw even a pinhead amount of black paint into almost any other color, it overpowers it.

[Paradox]

kmeyers is locked in:

There are far too many variables going on to compare art to math or science in my opinion.

I think you are just unable to see the art in math and science. :smile:

[Justin D.]

I feel like crying some Superman tears.

[kmeyers]

And it's math.... honest. It is. Hang out at a theater. Hang out at a printing press for a color publication. Heck, try photoshop.

It's totally math.

Ok. Then you paint me something, and I'll work on solving some mathematical equation.

Oh, and I hate photoshop.

[DoctorDoom]

I don't need to. Anytime you throw even a pinhead amount of black paint into almost any other color, it overpowers it.
Jason? Is that you? Your arguments are as compelling as they are arousing!

Talk about solid constants!

[howyadoin]

Now it's my turn to ask, "Huh?"You forgot about the new guy already?

Damn, you are a fickle wench.

[DoctorDoom]

Wow. "Werewolf in a Women's Prison."

Hahhahah!

[howyadoin]

I feel like crying some Superman tears.Don't worry. Bruce will be Batman again someday.

[howyadoin]

Wow. "Werewolf in a Women's Prison."

Hahhahah!Body hair has no place in a women's-prison movie.

[DoctorDoom]

You forgot about the new guy already?

Damn, you are a fickle wench.
Are you implying Jason showed me that site?

And I'm not that fickle! But that did make me laugh.

[mattx110]

Ok. Then you paint me something, and I'll work on solving some mathematical equation.

Oh, and I hate photoshop.
Deal. And me too... I don't have a tablet for one. And I like paper and pencils and ink.

[DoctorDoom]

Body hair has no place in a women's-prison movie.
Plot: (from IMDb)

Set in the fictional third world country of Canpuna, 'Werewolf in a Womens Prison' is the story of Sarah (Victoria De Mare), when camping with her boyfriend, is attacked by a werewolf. She wakes up in a corrupt prison only to find out her boyfriend has been torn apart and she is the only suspect. Forced to do things only found in a prison populated only by women it's only a matter of time until that strange bite starts to take effect.

[kmeyers]

I think you are just unable to see the art in math and science. :smile:

I do see aspects of them both, but I have not ever once done any mathematical equations to figure out what needed to go where in a drawing or painting. And I like to think that I'm a pretty decent artist while being a bad mathematician.

Conversely I've never seen any artistic value in doing long division, Algebra, or whatever.

[Paradox]

This is art. It is also both math and science.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Da_Vinci_Vitruve_Luc_Viatour.jpg/441px-Da_Vinci_Vitruve_Luc_Viatour.jpg

[Paradox]

kmeyers points out the the key factor:

I do see aspects of them both, but I have not ever once done any mathematical equations to figure out what needed to go where in a drawing or painting. And I like to think that I'm a pretty decent artist while being a bad mathematician.

Conversely I've never seen any artistic value in doing long division, Algebra, or whatever.

And that's why you don't see it. You don't understand math. :smile:

[kmeyers]

Deal. And me too... I don't have a tablet for one. And I like paper and pencils and ink.
I'm faster at totally redrawing/painting something than I am at fixing it in photoshop...which kind of sucks, but I'm probably not going to take a photoshop class anytime soon.

[DoctorDoom]

WWE diva Candice Michelle in softcore, apparently.

Where's Morgan, ot the other Wrestling watcher here?

[StoneGold]

Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?

[kmeyers]

And that's why you don't see it. You don't understand math. :smile:

Well, maybe I just see math differently. I don't need to calculate the angles and complexity of the human form, I just see it.

Since I don't have to put in in a calculator, I don't consider it math as much.
This drawing is full of math, I'm sure, but I never even considered it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/kmeyers/sk81.jpg

[DoctorDoom]

Very nice, Kevin. :smile:

[Chris Nowlin]

Well, maybe I just see math differently. I don't need to calculate the angles and complexity of the human form, I just see it.

Since I don't have to put in in a calculator, I don't consider it math as much.

I'm pretentious enough to think that anything a computer can do isn't math.

That's not really true, but I'm a pure mathematician and I think of math as pure math.

There's of course also applied math, which involves computation and problems computers can solve. Not for me though. Hate computing things. No interest in solving equations of any type.

[Paradox]

kmeyers mistakes:

Well, maybe I just see math differently. I don't need to calculate the angles and complexity of the human form, I just see it.

Since I don't have to put in in a calculator, I don't consider it math as much.
This drawing is full of math, I'm sure, but I never even considered it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/kmeyers/sk81.jpg

You are right. It is. You're doing the math, you're just doing it subconsciously. Math isn't all about equations and calculations and numbers. As said, you simply don't understand math. Any more than someone who feels that if it isn't a photorealistic depiction it isn't art understands art.

[howyadoin]

There's a smart young woman on a light blue screen
Who comes into my house every night.
And she takes all the red, yellow, orange and green
And she turns them into black and white.
But you tease, and you flirt
And you shine all the buttons on your green shirt

You can please yourself but somebody's gonna get it
Better cut off all identifying labels
Before they put you on the torture table
'Cause somewhere in the "Quizling Clinic"
There's a shorthand typist taking seconds over minutes
She's listening in to the Venus line
She's picking out names
I hope none of them are mine
But you tease, and you flirt...
And you shine all the buttons on your green shirt

Never said I was a stool pigeon
I never said I was a diplomat
Everybody is under suspicion
But you don't wanna hear about that
'Cause you tease, and you flirt...
And you shine all the buttons on your green shirt

Better send a begging letter to the big investigation
Who put these fingerprints on my imagination?
You tease, and you flirt...
And you shine all the buttons on your green shirt

You can please yourself but somebody's gonna get it
You can please yourself but somebody's gonna get it

[StoneGold]

WWE diva Candice Michelle in softcore, apparently.

Where's Morgan, ot the other Wrestling watcher here?

Gee, big surprise, wrestlers in soft core.



Could be worse though. Ever see Buff Bagwell and Julie Strain dry humping?

[mattx110]

WWE diva Candice Michelle in softcore, apparently.

Where's Morgan, ot the other Wrestling watcher here?
I'm not watcher but Iknow who she is (she does stupid annoying commercials).


Not my type.:frown:

[DoctorDoom]

Tease...flirt...

Trying to tell me something, mentor?

[DoctorDoom]

Gee, big surprise, wrestlers in soft core.



Could be worse though. Ever see Buff Bagwell and Julie Strain dry humping?
.....Bullshit.

[mattx110]

You are right. It is. You're doing the math, you're just doing it subconsciously. Math isn't all about equations and calculations and numbers. As said, you simply don't understand math. Any more than someone who feels that if it isn't a photorealistic depiction it isn't art understands art.
Personally I'm more annoyed by the "if it's photorealistic, it's not art" crowd.

Anyway, I'm off to bed. Goodnight folks.

[mattx110]

.....Bullshit.
I dunno... it's hard to imagine Julie Strain not dry-humping something at least once.

ok, real good night this time.

[kmeyers]

I'm pretentious enough to think that anything a computer can do isn't math.

That's not really true, but I'm a pure mathematician and I think of math as pure math.

There's of course also applied math, which involves computation and problems computers can solve. Not for me though. Hate computing things. No interest in solving equations of any type.

Well, you work equations out on a chalkboard, yes? That could be considered artwork on it's own, but again, I personally have never used mathematical equations or proofs to create a piece of artwork. I may have used principles of mat and science, but I never felt the need to calculate anything.

[DoctorDoom]

I dunno... it's hard to imagine Julie Strain not dry-humping something at least once.

ok, real good night this time.
Good night, Matty.

[StoneGold]

.....Bullshit.

Look up Day of the Warrior or L.E.T.H.A.L. Ladies: Return to Savage Beach on IMDB.



And just for fun...


http://www.wrestlingworld.it/Historical/Tagteamgallery/bagwellscorpio.jpg

[howyadoin]

Tease...flirt...

Trying to tell me something, mentor?Just that should listen to Elvis Costello.

I dunno... it's hard to imagine Julie Strain not dry-humping something at least once.Blech. What an image.

[howyadoin]

Well, you work equations out on a chalkboard, yes? That could be considered artwork on it's own, but again, I personally have never used mathematical equations or proofs to create a piece of artwork. I may have used principles of mat and science, but I never felt the need to calculate anything.But if you're using vanishing points, you're using geometry.

[DoctorDoom]

Look up Day of the Warrior or L.E.T.H.A.L. Ladies: Return to Savage Beach on IMDB.



And just for fun...





I see. Wow.

And.... that image is no fun.

[DoctorDoom]

Just that should listen to Elvis Costello.



I probably should. I'll download some of his songs immediately.

[StoneGold]

I see. Wow.

And.... that image is no fun.

Could be worse. Could be Ultimate Warrior raping Santa Claus.

http://theboysaunders.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/warriortakessantaspants.jpg

[howyadoin]

I probably should. I'll download some of his songs immediately.Stick with the first 4 albums or so.

[Paradox]

StoneGold will know this:

Gee, big surprise, wrestlers in soft core.

I can't remember the name, but one of the former G.L.O.W. girls has been doing hard-core for years.

[kmeyers]

You are right. It is. You're doing the math, you're just doing it subconsciously. Math isn't all about equations and calculations and numbers. As said, you simply don't understand math. Any more than someone who feels that if it isn't a photorealistic depiction it isn't art understands art.

Right, but then we get to the abstract art that has nothing to do with math at all...and some of it even contradicts math and physics.

(not the best example, but this doesn't have much to do with math)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/kmeyers/musicnew.jpg

[DoctorDoom]

Could be worse. Could be Ultimate Warrior raping Santa Claus.

http://theboysaunders.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/warriortakessantaspants.jpg
Oh. My. God.

[Paradox]

howyadoin should look closely:

But if you're using vanishing points, you're using geometry.

Did you see those steps in the skater pic? Apparently he isn't using vanishing points. :smile:

[Chris Nowlin]

Right, but then we get to the abstract art that has nothing to do with math at all...and some of it even contradicts math and physics.

(not the best example, but this doesn't have much to do with math)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/kmeyers/musicnew.jpg

One good definition of math: the study of the abstract.

[kmeyers]

But if you're using vanishing points, you're using geometry.

I admit that, yes. But I consider that just observation over math. I've never had to do any geometry proofs for my drawings to make them legit.

[StoneGold]

http://theboysaunders.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/santainbondage.jpg



Keep in mind, this was in a comic that Warrior wrote himself.

[DoctorDoom]

http://theboysaunders.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/santainbondage.jpg



Keep in mind, this was in a comic that Warrior wrote himself.
Stop trying to destroy my mind!

[kmeyers]

One good definition of math: the study of the abstract.

You keep saying that, but I just don't see the connection. From everything I've seen and heard, math is all about rules, and strictly keeping to that set of rules.

[Paradox]

kmeyers still isn't getting it:

Right, but then we get to the abstract art that has nothing to do with math at all...and some of it even contradicts math and physics.

(not the best example, but this doesn't have much to do with math)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/kmeyers/musicnew.jpg

Curves are math. Light and darkness are math. Again, you have the wrong idea about math. Math is about relationships between things (EDIT: in this context, of course. That is not the whole of math). The equations, etc. are just ways of representing such and writing it down. If you ever said "Hmmm..that should be longer, and this should be over here." that's math.

It's a very broad definition of math, but so is how people often use broad definitions of art.

[howyadoin]

I admit that, yes. But I consider that just observation over math.Right, but those observations are informed by math you've learned and internalized.

I've never had to do any geometry proofs for my drawings to make them legit.This is the key to this argument, I think: math describes what you draw or paint; it doesn't control it.

Stop trying to destroy my mind!Yeah, that's my job.

[StoneGold]

Ooo, Megan Fox has semi-topless photos. In that she has little flesh colored pasties coloring her nipples. For a movie shoot.

[kmeyers]

Curves are math. Light and darkness are math. Again, you have the wrong idea about math. Math is about relationships between things. The equations, etc. are just ways of representing such and writing it down. If you ever said "Hmmm..that should be longer, and this should be over here." that's math.
See, to me that's art, not math.

It's a very broad definition of math, but so is how people often use broad definitions of art.

Yeah. That's like saying oxygen is math. Of course it's everywhere, and I may use it unwillingly, but I still have a hard time comparing math to teaching someone how to draw a human figure...

I don't have the wrong idea about math, then. The people trying to teach me math had the wrong idea all along.

[howyadoin]

Speaking of art and math:

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/introcs/22library/flaming-fractal.jpg

[Paradox]

kmeyers point fingers:

See, to me that's art, not math.

They're not exclusive things.

I don't have the wrong idea about math, then. The people trying to teach me math had the wrong idea all along.

To a degree. Although it probably is just that the people trying to teach you were trying to teach you elementary math before you could progress to more advanced math. Much like you have to learn standard principles in realistic art before you can move on to more advanced methods.

[Chris Nowlin]

You keep saying that, but I just don't see the connection. From everything I've seen and heard, math is all about rules, and strictly keeping to that set of rules.

True. You do have to adhere to the rules. The beauty is that you have the freedom to invent what rules you wish to adhere to.

Which I figure is what you artists do as well. I'll presume some sort of internal consistency is important to you people.

[Spike-X]

Spidey 2 was the previous winner. We actually went right back in again after seeing it the first time.

Reilly wanted to do that when we saw The Incredibles (his first ever movie at the cinema).

I would've been up for it, but I didn't have enough money for more tickets.

[howyadoin]

http://www.miqel.com/fractals_math_patterns/visual-math-natural-fractals.html

[kmeyers]

True. You do have to adhere to the rules. The beauty is that you have the freedom to invent what rules you wish to adhere to.

Which I figure is what you artists do as well. I'll presume some sort of internal consistency is important to you people.

Well, I guess that's my problem with math. Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry, all had specific rules that couldn't be ignored. I admit not knowing what goes on with the higher levels of mathematical theory.

None of my paintings had any rules.

[Chris Nowlin]

This summer, I get to teach a course entitled "transition to higher math". Which I think will be fun, though challenging.

But it's cool because it builds on nothing. You don't need to know calculus, algebra or arithmetic. In fact, the students are better off forgetting all that. The point of the course is to break students out of the mold of plugging into formulae and mimicking examples, and introduce them to abstraction and problem solving.

Since it's my course, comic books will come into play.

In fact, inspiration just hit me based on a comic of Kevin's. I think I'll bring in pictures by Alex Ross and Charles Schultz and use Peanuts as the analogue of math.

[Paradox]

StoneGold gets a Foxy woody:

Ooo, Megan Fox has semi-topless photos. In that she has little flesh colored pasties coloring her nipples. For a movie shoot.

Considering the amount of bikini shots I've seen of her, that's not really showing much more.

[Chris Nowlin]

Well, I guess that's my problem with math. Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry, all had specific rules that couldn't be ignored.

None of my paintings had any rules.

True. But you'll notice each had its own set of rules. Somebody invented those rules. That somebody was a mathematician.

Learning about geometry is like learning about a particular work of art, or perhaps a collection of art with similar sensibilities.

Inventing an abstract system is like creating art.

[Chris Nowlin]

Considering the amount of bikini shots I've seen of her, that's not really showing much more.

Whatever. I'm google-image searching it anyway.

[Paradox]

Well, I didn't say I wasn't going to LOOK, did I? :evilsmile:

[kmeyers]

True. But you'll notice each had its own set of rules. Somebody invented those rules. That somebody was a mathematician.

Learning about geometry is like learning about a particular work of art, or perhaps a collection of art with similar sensibilities.

Inventing an abstract system is like creating art.

Well, I'm not a mathematician, and I made up my own rules for the some of the things I've created.

I know the basics of geometry, but don't need to get into proofs to create good atmospheric(or regular) perspective in a drawing.

[StoneGold]

Whatever. I'm google-image searching it anyway.

They're pretty new. Try a blog search

[DoctorDoom]

I'm exhausted.

Good night and sweet dreams all.

[howyadoin]

I'm exhausted.

Good night and sweet dreams all.Think I'll join you.





In saying goodnight.

[Chris Nowlin]

Well, I'm not a mathematician, and I made up my own rules for the some of the things I've created.

Exactly.

You're an artist.

I'm a mathematician (or trying to be). Hence I make up rules and create things.

What we do is different, but not totally distinct, nor totally disjoint.

[Paradox]

Almost anything can be art.

Almost everything is math.

It's really that simple.

[kmeyers]

Exactly.

You're an artist.

I'm a mathematician (or trying to be). Hence I make up rules and create things.

What we do is different, but not totally distinct, nor totally disjoint.

You know what? Thank you for this. The teacher I dropped said math, and tried to make art formulaic, and it felt very "paint by the numbers," to me, and I wanted no part of that.

I was pretty jaded by a teacher I disliked a lot. I guess I'm not as bad at math as I thought, at least in theory.

[Paradox]

It's a pretty common mistake made by math teachers. Most of them don't get the "art" to it, either.

[kmeyers]

Almost anything can be art.

Almost everything is math.

It's really that simple.

Well, anything can be considered art too, by someone.

I feel that not everything is math. Sure there are parts of math in everything, there are parts of art in everything, but that's why it's called art, and why it's called math, in my opinion.

Where do we separate the two?

[Paradox]

Why do you feel the need to?

[kmeyers]

Why do you feel the need to?

I don't know...

I guess because I'm good at one, and bad at the other, but i still see them as pretty separate, but with similarities.

Which they really are.

[Spike-X]

Could be worse. Could be Ultimate Warrior raping Santa Claus.

http://theboysaunders.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/warriortakessantaspants.jpg

<Doctor Who>

...what?!

...WHAT?!?!

</Doctor Who>

[morna]

yeah me too nighty-o all!

[Paradox]

kmeyers tries:

I don't know...

I guess because I'm good at one, and bad at the other, but i still see them as pretty separate, but with similarities.

Which they really are.

You understand one, you do not the other. That's the crux of the bisquit. You keep thinking Mathematics is Arithmetic, which Das pointed out pages ago.

Music is math, too. And music is art. Surely you knew that.

[Pól Rua]

Something I said?

[Paradox]

No, as usual, it's the flaming poo. :tongue:

[Pól Rua]

But I'm still endearing, right?

[StoneGold]

How is Jennifer Anniston still famous? I'm in the supermarket, and she's on every magazine for dating someone. And I'm thinking, how long has it been since Friends went off the air? And has she been in anything successful since Friends went off the air? Is she famous for anything other than who she is or isn't fucking?

And it's not like she was ever that hot. Oh, don't get me wrong, she was normal girl hot, but not like movie hot. I guessing that's how she broke, she was just hot enough to play the game, but not so hot as to alienate the target audience. Like Homer said last week, she's Shia Lebouf. Not quite cool, not quite a nerd, Shia Lebouf!

[Pól Rua]

She's 'I could look like that if I really wanted to' hot.

I dunno. I find her as dull as fuckery, but someone's buyin' them magazines.

[Spike-X]

I never, ever saw what all the fuss was about her.

[kmeyers]

You understand one, you do not the other. That's the crux of the bisquit. You keep thinking Mathematics is Arithmetic, which Das pointed out pages ago.

Music is math, too. And music is art. Surely you knew that.

See, that's where I guess I'm drawing the line. Math is definitely a part of music, as far as numbers and counting go.

But to me, the statement, music IS math doesn't work for me. It is to an extent, but it is independant of math most of the time.

Just look to Eddie Van Halen. He plays the guitar how he feels it, which annoys the shit out of his brother, the drummer, trying to keep time with Eddie.

But it still sounds good.

[Paradox]

StoneGold knows it's the same old reason:

How is Jennifer Anniston still famous?

Same reason she GOT famous. Prominent erect nipples.

[Pól Rua]

I never, ever saw what all the fuss was about her.

I think she's one of those women that women find attractive.
Non-threatening, 'safe', the sort of person you could aspire to look like.
That's the only thing I can think of.

[StoneGold]

I never, ever saw what all the fuss was about her.

Like I said, to be fair, if she walked past, you'd look twice. But beyond that, I can only imagine her appeal was she was non-threatening to other women. But what do I care that she's fucking some guy I barely know of? And yet, I am visually assaulted by it at the store. Instead of partially nude photos of Megan Fox.

[Pól Rua]

Whenever I think of Jennifer Aniston, I just imagine an endless field of beige.
Kinda the same colour as the text box here on the 'yellow' setting.
That colour.

[Paradox]

kmeyers goes another round:

See, that's where I guess I'm drawing the line.

That's the mistake you keep making.

Math is definitely a part of music, as far as numbers and counting go.

See, you're doing it again, equating Arithmetic with Mathematics.

But to me, the statement, music IS math doesn't work for me. It is to an extent, but it is independant of math most of the time.

Just look to Eddie Van Halen. He plays the guitar how he feels it, which annoys the shit out of his brother, the drummer, trying to keep time with Eddie.

But it still sounds good.

Oh, my. The very construction of a guitar itSELF is math. The fact that the shortening of the strings by placing your finger in a certain place or bending them to create sounds is math. Timing and scales are math.

I don't think you're going to get it, but that's not that unusual. Think about people who don't "get" art. That's where you are in relation to math. You haven't got the framework, or the mindset to get it. The fact that you're not consciously figuring out some formula is irrelevant.

[Paradox]

If Pól Rua will allow me an analogy:

I think she's one of those women that women find attractive.
Non-threatening, 'safe', the sort of person you could aspire to look like.
That's the only thing I can think of.

Aniston is "hot girlfriend"

Angelina Jolie is "sex on a stick".

[StoneGold]

Aniston is "hot girlfriend"

Angelina Jolie is "sex on a stick".

Really? Even all fat?

http://media.justjared.com/headlines/2006/08/angelina-jolie-pregnant-again.jpg

[Paradox]

I'd hit it. :smile:

I don't find pregnancy unsexy.

[Pól Rua]

Oh, my. The very construction of a guitar itSELF is math.

No way man,
That's the mistake you keep making.

x =/= y.

Math =/= Art

If I were to present this as a Venn Diagram, there would be overlap, certainly, but the circles would not overlap 100%.

Making a guitar incorporates math. Art incorporates math. Math incorporates art.

(Venn diagrams for instance, are a use of art in math)

But one thing DOES NOT EQUAL the other.

Art IS NOT math.

Math IS NOT art.

They are what they are.

Q.E.D.

[StoneGold]

I'd hit it. :smile:

I don't find pregnancy unsexy.

http://www.andrewmoisey.com/vomit.jpg

[Paradox]

Vomitting, however...very unsexy.

[StoneGold]

Vomitting, however...very unsexy.

What about her? And I'm going to not post, just for everyone's sanity. But nothing dirty is showing. Depending on your definition of dirty.

http://www.steveklotz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/vomit.jpg

[Pól Rua]

I was braced for pregnancy, not vomit.

ewww...



edit: Yup. Still not sexy. REALLY not sexy.

[Paradox]

Pól Rua gets Arithmatic:

x =/= y.

Math =/= Art

If I were to present this as a Venn Diagram, there would be overlap, certainly, but the circles would not overlap 100%.

Making a guitar incorporates math. Art incorporates math. Math incorporates art.

(Venn diagrams for instance, are a use of art in math)

But one thing DOES NOT EQUAL the other.

Art IS NOT math.

Math IS NOT art.

They are what they are.

Q.E.D.

Well now you're just being language rigid. Yes, they are not 100% the same thing. But the underlying basis for just about everything incorporates math AND art. Is that better?

[Paradox]

StoneGold hurts me:

What about her? And I'm going to not post, just for everyone's sanity. But nothing dirty is showing. Depending on your definition of dirty.

http://www.steveklotz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/vomit.jpg

Eh, just not into "bodily fluid porn" at all.

[kmeyers]

That's the mistake you keep making.



See, you're doing it again, equating Arithmetic with Mathematics.



Oh, my. The very construction of a guitar itSELF is math. The fact that the shortening of the strings by placing your finger in a certain place or bending them to create sounds is math. Timing and scales are math.

I don't think you're going to get it, but that's not that unusual. Think about people who don't "get" art. That's where you are in relation to math. You haven't got the framework, or the mindset to get it. The fact that you're not consciously figuring out some formula is irrelevant.
I think I do get it, I just see it differently, I guess. I also feel like math is getting merged with science. I realize that they are related, but they are different.

Now you're being very broad in your definition of math. Sure anything and everything can be considered math. Alternatively, anything and everything can be called art...even a guitar...Functional art.

but this site keeps fucking up, and I have to sleep

[StoneGold]

I was braced for pregnancy, not vomit.

ewww...



edit: Yup. Still not sexy. REALLY not sexy.

Eh, just not into "bodily fluid porn" at all.

Some people just don't learn, don't click on random links I post.

[Spike-X]

What about her? And I'm going to not post, just for everyone's sanity. But nothing dirty is showing. Depending on your definition of dirty.

http://www.steveklotz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/vomit.jpg
Dude.

Seriously.

Not cool.

[Spike-X]

Aniston is "bland, annoying girlfriend"


Fixed it for ya.

[Paradox]

Well, that's more or less the connotation I meant by "girlfriend", Spike. :smile:

[Pól Rua]

Well now you're just being language rigid. Yes, they are not 100% the same thing. But the underlying basis for just about everything incorporates math AND art. Is that better?

Yes. Much.
The processes may be similar, but you're coming at it from different angles.

I've been re-reading 'Tales of the Beanworld' lately, and I'm getting a real Proffy/Beanish vibe from this conversation.

This pleases me.

[Paradox]

Well, certainly. I won't disagree (although it's been a long time since I read any "Beanworld", but that's shame on me).

Look at it this way. Right brain, left brain. Both look at something in different ways, but not in entirety, and the Corpus Collusum makes them work together best. Everything can be looked at as "either", but in truth, it's just the angle of your perspective that's making the thing "different".

[kmeyers]

No way man,


x =/= y.

Math =/= Art

If I were to present this as a Venn Diagram, there would be overlap, certainly, but the circles would not overlap 100%.

Making a guitar incorporates math. Art incorporates math. Math incorporates art.

(Venn diagrams for instance, are a use of art in math)

But one thing DOES NOT EQUAL the other.

Art IS NOT math.

Math IS NOT art.

They are what they are.

Q.E.D.

Thank you Monkey Man for saying what I could not say.

[Pól Rua]

Well, that's more or less the connotation I meant by "girlfriend", Spike. :smile:

That's sad.
I am aware of people who have girlfriends and some of them are really quite nice.

[Paradox]

Yes, yes, it's not meant as a disparagement to all girlfriends. Hence the quotes. Merely an illustration of scale. "Girlfriend" vs. "movie star". "Something you see every day" vs. "something you'd be willing to pay money to see".

[Pól Rua]

Well, certainly. I won't disagree (although it's been a long time since I read any "Beanworld", but that's shame on me).
Everyone should read Beanworld. Fuck me it's wonderful.


Look at it this way. Right brain, left brain. Both look at something in different ways, but not in entirety, and the Corpus Collusum makes them work together best. Everything can be looked at as "either", but in truth, it's just the angle of your perspective that's making the thing "different".

Exactly.
Speaking semiotically, if someone is not there to observe it, then the object is neither art or math. It just is. The viewer's perception and interaction with the object decides how it is perceived.

Still, walking into a room and declaring something like "Art is Math" is a deliberately provocative move. It's like film and literature students (and I'm both, and I have been that annoying guy) declaring that there interpretation IS 'the meaning'.

[Spike-X]

Yes, yes, it's not meant as a disparagement to all girlfriends. Hence the quotes. Merely an illustration of scale. "Girlfriend" vs. "movie star". "Something you see every day" vs. "something you'd be willing to pay money to see".
Ah, I see what you're getting at now.

[Pól Rua]

Yes, yes, it's not meant as a disparagement to all girlfriends. Hence the quotes. Merely an illustration of scale. "Girlfriend" vs. "movie star". "Something you see every day" vs. "something you'd be willing to pay money to see".

Ah. My punctuation sense is off.
Luckily I packed a punctuation repair kit.

*huffa huffa huffa*

[Chris Nowlin]

No way man,


x =/= y.

Math =/= Art

If I were to present this as a Venn Diagram, there would be overlap, certainly, but the circles would not overlap 100%.

Making a guitar incorporates math. Art incorporates math. Math incorporates art.

(Venn diagrams for instance, are a use of art in math)

But one thing DOES NOT EQUAL the other.

Art IS NOT math.

Math IS NOT art.

They are what they are.

Q.E.D.

They're clearly not equal. And clearly very different.

Just not unrelated.

Commonalities appear etc.

[Spike-X]

Ah. My punctuation sense is off.
Luckily I packed a punctuation repair kit.

*huffa huffa huffa*
*golf clap*

[Paradox]

Aniston's very ordinary looking, but attractive. Certainly not ugly. She doesn't rate very high on the "people in the media" looks scale, but doable in the "chick at the end of the bar" kind of way.

Plus the nipples. :biggrin:

Also, I seem to remember someone once asking on the 'net in relation to a picture "whoa, is it possible to have 'fuck me' hair?" She's usually got sexy hair.

[Pól Rua]

*golf clap*

thenk yew... thenk yew...

[Paul McEnery]

We just got back from seeing Efterklang.

Everyone should go see them. They are smashing.

Imagine Blixa Bargeld played by Steve Buscemi leading the love child of the Cardigans and King Crimson.

And they are all so cuuuute.

Yes.

[Spike-X]

We just got back from seeing Efterklang.

Everyone should go see them. They are smashing.

Imagine Blixa Bargeld played by Steve Buscemi leading the love child of the Cardigans and King Crimson.

And they are all so cuuuute.

Yes.
Did they play any Nickleback?

[Paradox]

If they do, I want my nickel back.

[Paul McEnery]

Did they play any Nickleback?

You shut your mouth, you.

[Pól Rua]

If they do, I want my nickel back.

I always wondered where they got their name from...

no, that's not true at all... but that IS pretty funny.

And with that, alas, I gotta split.

'Night all.

[Typo Lad]

And for another thing I'm working with others on, I wrote an imititaton of Stephen Lynch covering 'Devil Went Down To Georgia', dedicated to Spider-Man. It's a continuation of something I've shown here before.
]

You're really Michael P in drag, aren't you?

[Paradox]

Sock-puppet. The term is sock-puppet.

**ducks** :tongue:

[Chris Nowlin]

You're really Michael P in drag, aren't you?

I don't understand the difference between "Michael P in drag" and "Michael P".

Have you seen him not in drag?

[jessecuster3]

Howdy, folks.

[Elegance Liberty]

Well, after some careful thought, I've decided I'm finally going to seek help for my anxiety attacks.

... Watch as I forget about this by the end of the day.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Morning folks.

[Radioactive Zombie]

Morning, Mr. Humpherys.

Morning, assholes!

[Paradox]

Radioactive Zombie greets:

Morning, assholes!

Yeah, yeah, we love you, too, young fucking punk.

GO TO SCHOOL!

:tongue:

[Puma]

Morning people.

[Paradox]

And happy birthday to Stonegold's best gal! 86 today! :biggrin:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c216/walkeraussie/Golden_Girls_Gone_Wild.jpg

Heh, that ought to go good with everyone's Wheaties.

[Royal]

How is Jennifer Anniston still famous? I'm in the supermarket, and she's on every magazine for dating someone. And I'm thinking, how long has it been since Friends went off the air? And has she been in anything successful since Friends went off the air? Is she famous for anything other than who she is or isn't fucking?


'bloids feel the need to cover her "Search for Love" because she was once married to super hot guy before he went off to create the master race. Coverage is just concession.

She's the new "Batboy".

[Michael P]

Jennifer Aniston's not at the top of my list, but I wouldn't say no if she asked me.

[Paradox]

See? "Girl at the end of the bar" scale.

[jessecuster3]

I think she is totally the hot girl next door.

[Paradox]

No that's Elisha Cuthbert. :tongue:

Not really, just the obvious joke.

[Dreadstar]

It depends on what scale we're using to judge Anniston, doesn't it?

Because if you're judging her against other Hollywood actresses, you might legitimately say "Enh, I'd go home with her if she was the last girl in the bar."

But if you're judging her against reality?

I got maybe (maybe!) 2 or 3 women that I see on my usual day-to-day (neighborhood, work, usual shopping, frequent stops) that are even comparable. I'd say that would put her in the 95th percentile of *my* reality.

So yeah, I wouldn't give her the heave-ho.

[Puma]

all I know is she likes to flash her boobs a lot.



and I'm off to a meeting.

[Michael P]

It depends on what scale we're using to judge Anniston, doesn't it?

Because if you're judging her against other Hollywood actresses, you might legitimately say "Enh, I'd go home with her if she was the last girl in the bar."

But if you're judging her against reality?

I got maybe (maybe!) 2 or 3 women that I see on my usual day-to-day (neighborhood, work, usual shopping, frequent stops) that are even comparable. I'd say that would put her in the 95th percentile of *my* reality.

So yeah, I wouldn't give her the heave-ho.
This is what I'm saying. There are celebrities I find more attractive, but she's still a fine looking woman.

all I know is she likes to flash her boobs a lot.

This is another plus.

[Paradox]

'Sokay with me. They're nice boobs. :smile:

Not great, just nice.

[Typo Lad]

all I know is she likes to flash her boobs a lot.


She... she does?

Where!?

[Dreadstar]

But, I completely understand that beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder. Everyone has differing tastes, and some aren't exactly accountable. I've seen pictures or met the girlfriends and wives of guys who rave that their wife is "so amazingly beautiful!" Most of the time I just want to cringe.

"Isn't my wife the most beautiful thing you've ever seen?"

"Uh, yeah, dude. She has great teeth! Both of them!"

[Paradox]

Just to clarify, by "end of the bar" I mean where she's sitting, not "end of the night".

[Michael P]

She... she does?

Where!?

Largely at semi-private beaches, where she is then photographed by skeevy men with telephoto lenses on their cameras.

[Paradox]

Typo Lad is kidding, right:

She... she does?

Where!?

The beach. Go google "Jennifer Aniston topless" in the images. You'll find 'em.

[Typo Lad]

Oh frabjous day, caloo, calay.

[Paradox]

See? Nice, aren't they? Another girl who needs a sammich or two, though.

[Agent Helix]

Some of you guys seem real desperate for some tit.

[Paradox]

Nah, plenty of it around. I just know where.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Oh frabjous day, caloo, calay.

Says HomerJay: Hurray!

[Michael P]

Says HomerJay: Hurray!

I dunno, I think his preference runs to women a little more... Parton-esque.

[Royal]

all I know is she likes to flash her boobs a lot.


Yes.

They're covered in white and have "BOOBS" written in black block lettering.

[Jared_Humpherys]

I dunno, I think his preference runs to women a little more... Parton-esque.

Hah!

By the by, been catching up on some recent posts, and I must say that you, Helix, and Spike X have been doing a great job of reminding me why I like you so much.

[Royal]

In othe news, I'm totally marking out on The Warriors video game.

[DoctorDoom]

Good morning all!

Looks to be a great day!

[Paradox]

Do you get to be whatever faction you want, or are you stuck as a Warrior?

Probably neat either way, but just wondering.

[DoctorDoom]

In othe news, I'm totally marking out on The Warriors video game.
Come out to plaaaaaayay!

[Agent Helix]

The Warriors was a pretty great game, actually. Fun combat system.

I do wish there was a version of the Warriors on DVD aside from the shoddy "director's cut" with the lame intro and awful transitions. I hate it when directors ruin their own movies.

[jessecuster3]

Yay! The first street festival of the season is this weekend and its in my neighborhood!

[Guapo Méndez]

Oh frabjous day, caloo, calay.

Just try not to be disappointed.

Neve Campbell's were a bit of a letdown.

[morna]

I think she's one of those women that women find attractive.
Non-threatening, 'safe', the sort of person you could aspire to look like.
That's the only thing I can think of.

Nope, not me anyway. I don't even think she's attractive on a real life level.

[Royal]

Do you get to be whatever faction you want, or are you stuck as a Warrior?

Probably neat either way, but just wondering.

Story-wise, your The Warriors. Each level, a different Warrior is Warchief.

In Brawl mode, you can be any gang you want and bop anywhere, depending how far you get in the game.

[DoctorDoom]

You're really Michael P in drag, aren't you?

Impossible.

Sock-puppet. The term is sock-puppet.

**ducks** :tongue:

Hey!!! You old bastard!

[DoctorDoom]

Nope, not me anyway. I don't even think she's attractive on a real life level.
I don't quite see what the buzz is either.

[Paradox]

DoctorDoom will have to work a little on the insults:

Hey!!! You old bastard!

Heh, my roomie taught me "if it's funny once, it's funny a thousand times"!!! :biggrin:

OK, he was wrong, but I have my own fun.

[Royal]

Come out to plaaaaaayay!

The Warriors Are Good. Reeaall Good.

[morna]

Huh! lookit all this boobs talk. I will now attempt to restore a little balance to the world...



http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/3380header_banner9406788.jpg

[Paradox]

I ALMOST put "cue morna" in one, but I figured you weren't up yet. :biggrin:

[Gilda Dent]

Marvel Adventures Avengers #20:

The Avengers are fighting a group of Mandroids that are hijacking a truck. Wolverine knocks one down and has ripped a hole in his helmet. Wolverine is standing over the fallen Mandroid, one clawed hand raised.

Wolverine: Well look, the crunchy shell has a soft, chewy center.

Mandroid: Not in the face. Not in the face!

Ordinarily this wouldn't have given me pause, but given the number of times I've seen that particular phrase photoshopped into a comic panel, I was somewhat taken aback to see it actually show up in a comic I was reading. It's a kid's comic so it isn't problematic, but it did give me pause for a moment.

I've been making good use of class time today. Giving finals is about the most boring thing on earth to do, especially when you have a volunteer proctor to help out.

[Royal]

Right now I'm bopping around Spanish Harlem. Cracking some Hurricane skull.

[Agent Helix]

Marvel Adventures Avengers #20:

The Avengers are fighting a group of Mandroids that are hijacking a truck. Wolverine knocks one down and has ripped a hole in his helmet. Wolverine is standing over the fallen Mandroid, one clawed hand raised.

Wolverine: Well look, the crunchy shell has a soft, chewy center.

Mandroid: Not in the face. Not in the face!

Ordinarily this wouldn't have given me pause, but given the number of times I've seen that particular phrase photoshopped into a comic panel, I was somewhat taken aback to see it actually show up.

I've been making good use of class time today. Giving finals is about the most boring thing on earth to do, especially when you have a volunteer proctor to help out.


Which phrase? Both of those are kinda common.

[Royal]

Which phrase? Both of those are kinda common.

....in the Marvel Universe.

Then again I've been out of the game for 8 years.