do-overs of classic stories/runs ....

[jam]

I can't remember if I've tried to launch a similar thread to this in the past but I thought I'd have another go.

I'd like to apologise in advance to the many talented artists who it will appear I am going to slight in this posting, I mean no offense, I only mean that your work isn't to my taste, so please, this is all IMVHO.

So what am I going on about? Have you ever been reading a series which is looking great and then they switch artists on you? To an artist whose work doesn't resonate for you as much as the original person?

Here's an example : Starlin's "Infinity Gauntlet", which started with George Perez but was finished with Ron Lim (an artist whose work I do greatly admire, by the way, but I would have preferred to see Perez finish the book). Wouldn't it be great if Perez could go back and finish it now?

Alan Moore's "MiracleMan" which started off with some great work by Gary Leach and Alan Davis ... and then someone called Chuck Beckum, iirc, took over. I'd love to see Davis go back and redo Beckum's issues.

Shooter's "Avengers" epic, the Korvac saga. Started by Perez, finished by Wenzel, iirc.

Levitz's "Legion" story, The Khund War (I can't remember the correct title for this, sorry), started by the great Jim Sherman, finished by Jack Abel.

On a slight tangent, how about people's early work? Giving then a chance to revisit it? I'm thinking of Davis' early work on Moore's "Captain Britain" ...

Maybe this is a crazy idea; all the starting artists will have moved on from the style they used at the time, and I certainly wouldn't expect them to try and recreate their old style to match.

[Red Oak Kid]

I wish the first Deadman story that Neal Adams drew in Strange Adventures could have been inked by Dick Giordano or Adams himself.

[JKCarrier]

On a slight tangent, how about people's early work? Giving then a chance to revisit it?

Craig Russell did this, remaking the old Doctor Strange Annual (http://comics.org/details.lasso?id=29379) as What Is It That Disturbs You, Stephen? (http://comics.org/details.lasso?id=60913)

[MWGallaher]

When Grant Morrison's "Seven Soldiers" was collected, I wished that the Mr. Miracle series had been redrawn by a single artist, since it was marred by a rushed-looking fill-in in #2, after the artist of #1, who was supposed to do the whole thing, took a Marvel exclusive.

[Kirk G]

I wish that Paul Smith would return to finish the final eight pages of the From The Ashes story arc in which Madeline Pryor enters Scott Summer's life and the X-men begin to suspect that Phoenix has returned...or not! The issue number is #175. The attempt to match his style was just horrid. I would have loved to see him finish it.

[Kirk G]

Likewise, I'd love to see the Alpha Flight books reprinted, maybe in a Masterworks edition or Essential volume or two so that the storyline not only concludes in ALpha Flight #28... with Heather setting down to soak in a tub with a rag over her head. Of course, this would require John Byrne to redraw or translate the four pages of action where the Beyonder appears and trashes Alpha Flight that appeared in Secret Wars II #4.... otherwise the storyline makes no sense.

But boy, what a ride it would be! The story could be broken apart into 3 sets of ten issues (remember #12 and #24 are both double sized issues... and so the count might be 1-10, 11-19, 20-28 plus those 4 pages.
If it were in the essential volumes it would be 1-14 and 15-28 plus those four pages.

Just as long as they don't include the awful conclusion of the Hulk Cross-over... and that could be done by droping the last two to three pages of #28... maybe with a concluding box with Heather in the tub, and the photo of Mac on the tub ledge next to her. It always felt to me that that is where the story was supposed to end.

[berk]

I don't know if it would work, but I would like to see it tried. Only thing is, nobody'd ever agree on which art should be re-done by whom.

I think it would've been great if Perez had been the artist for the entirety of Englehart's Avengers run.

Steve Leialoha should go back and ink all the Gene Colan HtD issues that Klaus Jansen did.

Gary Leach, not Alan Davis, should have done all the MiracleMan series with Moore.

Alfredo Alcala should have embellished every John Buscema story in Savage Sword that Tony DeZuniga and others inked.

Vicente Alcazar should have drawn every B&W Kull story in the short-lived Kull and the Barbarians (but not the Mike Ploog drawn Mirros of Tuzun Thune from SSoC).

Marie and John Severin should have done every issue of the colour Kull comic.

The Jim Starlin of the early 70s should re-draw every single post-1978 Starlin comic.

[Expletive Deleted]

When Grant Morrison's "Seven Soldiers" was collected, I wished that the Mr. Miracle series had been redrawn by a single artist, since it was marred by a rushed-looking fill-in in #2, after the artist of #1, who was supposed to do the whole thing, took a Marvel exclusive.Losing Ferry was a blow to that particular mini.

On a similar note, Morrison's NEW X-MEN run suffered from a severely inconsistent artistic line-up. I realize that if Frank Quietly had drawn every issue, we'd still be somewhere in the middle #120s, but man would it have been awesome.

Another that springs to mind is Walt Simonson's THOR. I like Sal Buscema's art and I think he did a fine job as the artist for the last chunk of that run, but how much better would it have been with Walt drawing the whole thing?

[MichikoS]

I'd like to see NEAL ADAMS finish the Kree-Skrull War storyline from 1971-2 that was abandoned by him after Avengers V1 #96 and completed by John Buscema in rather lackluster (forgive me) fashion.

Adams is still working, Tom Palmer is still working; some millionaire needs to grease up Marvel Publisher Dan Buckley, give Adams and Palmer each a bundle of money, and commission them to complete issue #97 of the original Kree-Skrull War. Hmmm. I don't think Palmer did all the inks, either -- somebody else filled in. So also let him re-do the Adams-pencilled panels in the other issues so it's 100% Adams + Palmer.

Michi

[benday-dot]

I don't know if it would work, but I would like to see it tried. Only thing is, nobody'd ever agree on which art should be re-done by whom.

I think it would've been great if Perez had been the artist for the entirety of Englehart's Avengers run.

Steve Leialoha should go back and ink all the Gene Colan HtD issues that Klaus Jansen did.

Gary Leach, not Alan Davis, should have done all the MiracleMan series with Moore.

Alfredo Alcala should have embellished every John Buscema story in Savage Sword that Tony DeZuniga and others inked.

Vicente Alcazar should have drawn every B&W Kull story in the short-lived Kull and the Barbarians (but not the Mike Ploog drawn Mirros of Tuzun Thune from SSoC).

Marie and John Severin should have done every issue of the colour Kull comic.

The Jim Starlin of the early 70s should re-draw every single post-1978 Starlin comic.

I agree with all your sentiments here Berk, but especially with your Alcala wish on J. Buscema pencils. I'm not a huge Buscema fan unless he has the right inker. Ernie Chan is pretty good on the Barbarian issues, but no one holds a candle to Alcala as embellisher extraordinaire on JB's Savage Sword work.

Another one... anyone read Don McGregor's Sabre over at Eclipse? I was kind of enjoying that series at the time. However, the contrast between Paul Gulacy's ultra detailed, illustrative look in the early issues, and Billy Graham's very cartoony look in the latter books is extremely jarring. I know there were large time gaps between the first few issues and the rest, and I do like Graham's stuff on the book, but too bad for consistency's sake Gulacy couldn't have finished the series off.

[Slam_Bradley]

Another one... anyone read Don McGregor's Sabre over at Eclipse? I was kind of enjoying that series at the time. However, the contrast between Paul Gulacy's ultra detailed, illustrative look in the early issues, and Billy Graham's very cartoony look in the latter books is extremely jarring. I know there were large time gaps between the first few issues and the rest, and I do like Graham's stuff on the book, but too bad for consistency's sake Gulacy couldn't have finished the series off.


I'd prefer to have McGregor re-write the book and take out about 60 % of the (extraneous) verbiage so I could actually see Gulacy's artwork.

[Sir Tim Drake]

I'd prefer to have McGregor re-write the book and take out about 60 % of the (extraneous) verbiage so I could actually see Gulacy's artwork.

Boy, do I ever agree with that. Besides distracting my attention from the artwork, the writing in Sabre is just painful to read.

[benday-dot]

Boy, do I ever agree with that. Besides distracting my attention from the artwork, the writing in Sabre is just painful to read.

Ha... well I was impressed with it when it hit the stands. I guess it must have have appeared to me as the first adult or "grown-up" comic book I discovered back in the day. I actually haven't read it since. Still, we all know about McGregor's weakness in the overwriting department.

[dan bailey]

I'm a big fan of McGregor's Black Panther & War of the Worlds runs, but yeah, whoever told him as a kid that he would be paid by the word was doing him no favors ...