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worstblogever
04-29-2008, 07:47 PM
May is Hellfire Club Month!
Alright, here’s the deal… this thread during Hellfire Club month is where you can come to learn about anyone who’s ever been a member of the Hellfire Club, or worked for them… EVER.
(Skip to PAGE 30, POST 447 for the last updates of all these profiles...)
1. Hellfire Club Mansions –April 30th
2. Haroun Ibn Sallah al-Rashid (Jetstream) -May 1st
3. Amara Julianna Olivia Aquilla (Magma) -May 1st
4. Vance Astrovik (Justice) -May 1st
5. Axe – May 2nd
6. Blackheart - May 2nd
7. Elias Bogan - May 2nd
8. James “John” Braddock, Sr. – May 3rd
9. Brian Braddock, Captain Britain – May 3rd
10. Elisabeth “Betsy” Braddock, Psylocke May 3rd
11. Edward Buckman – May 4th
12. Ms. Cabot – May 4th
13. Castlemere- May 4th
14. Lourdes Chantel – May 5th
15. Clearcut (infiltrator) – May 5h
16. Mrs. Cohen - May 5th
17. Marie-Ange Colbert (Tarot) - May 6th
18. Emmanuel DaCosta – May 6th
19. Roberto “Bobby” Dacosta, Sunspot – May 6th
20. Manuel Alfonzo Rodrigo de al Rocha (Empath) - May 7th
21. Ella the Maid - May 7th
22. Lady Jacqueline Falsworth-Crichton, Spitfire - May 8th
23. Trevor Fitzroy – May 8th
24. Adrienne Frost (claims she was a White Queen) – May 9th
25. Cordelia Frost - May 9th
26. Emma Frost – May 9th
27. Dr. Graves – (hired help) – May 10th
28. Jean Grey – May 10th
29. Sam Guthrie, Cannonball – May 10th
30. Alice and Gene Hayes - May 11th
31. Hellfire Club Guards (includes Clam, Art, Denny the Bouncer, Diaz, Gilbert, Harvey, Jacko, Janet, McCord, Polk, Richter, Roberto, Salvatore, Skelton, Skinner, Stansfield, Bruno Stein, Steven, Taft, Travis, Randall Chase, Castro, Chet Andrews, Cole, Macon, Reese and Salmons) – May 11th
32. Daimon Hellstorm – May 12th
33. Holocaust - May 12th
34. Angelica Jones, Firestar - May 12th
35. Benazir Kaur – May 13th
36. Senator Robert Kelly and Sharon Kelly - May 13th
37. Kingmaker – May 14th
38. Benedict Kine – May 14h
39. Ebony and White Knights – May 14th
40. Bianca La Niege – May 15th
41. Harry Leland – May 15h
42. Magneto – May 15h
43. Fabian Marechal-Jublin (Bevatron) - May 16th
44. Mercedes- May 16th
45. Mindmeld - May 16th
46. Ororo Monroe, Storm – May 17th
47. Namor - May 17th
48. Norman Osborn, the Green Goblin – May 18th
49. Paladin - May 18th
50. Ronald Parvenue – May 19th
51. Reeva Payge – May 19th
52. Gordon Phillips – May 19th
53. Donald Pierce – May 20th
54. James Proudstar (Warpath) - May 20th
55. Madelyne Pryor – May 20th
56. Red Lotus (hired help) – May 21st
57. Claudine Renko (Miss Sinister) - May 21st
58. Rutledge the Butler – May 22nd
59. Oliver Ryland – May 22nd
60. Sage/Tessa – May 23nd
61. Sat-Yr-9 - May 23rd
62. Turner Scholl- May 24th
63. Scribe/Mountjoy – May 24th
64. Selene – May 24th
65. Paris Seville – May 25th
66. Sebastian Shaw- May 25th
67. Shinobi Shaw - May 25th
68. Sharon Smith, Catseye - May 26th
69. Candace “Candy” Southern – May 26th
70. Harold Stark and Tony Stark – May 26th
71. Jennifer Stavros (Roulette) - May 27th
72. Ms. Steed – May 27th
73. Conrad Strathdee (Red Bishop of London) – May 27h
74. Margali Szardos – May 28th
75. Dwayne Taylor (Night Thrasher I) – May 28th
76. Quentin Templeton (Black King of London) - May 28th
77. Gerhard van Ostamgen (applicant) – May 29th
78. Viper - May 29th
79. Friedrich von Roehm – May 29th
80. Warhawk (hired help) – May 30th
81. Alan Wilson (London’s Red King) - May 30th
82. Buford Wilson (Beef) - May 30th
83. Warren Worthington Jr. and Warren Worthington III – May 31st
84. Jason Wyngarde (Mastermind) – May 31st
85. Regan Wyngarde (Lady Mastermind) – May 31st
worstblogever
04-29-2008, 07:51 PM
Hellfire Club New York Mansions, HQs- April 29th
http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/4/44/Hellfirenewyork.jpg
History of the Hellfire Club:
The Hellfire Club's mansion is located at 840 Fifth Avenue, between 66th and 67th Streets. This places it in Manhattan's East Side, only a few blocks away from the Avengers Mansion. The name "mansion," with its connotations of grandeur and display, seems an inappropriate term for the Hellfire Club headquarters-at least as seen from the street. The brick building occupies the entire block, but it is inconspicuous. Designed in the New York elite style, the building is only 30 feet tall. Its entrance is set off from the street by a short, simple flight of concrete steps. Beside the white wooden door (of oak) is a small bronze plaque reading, "HELLFIRE CLUB ESTABLISHED MDCCLXIII."
The date, 1763, is when Sir Francis Dashwood of London founded a gentlemen's club devoted to debauchery, black magic, orgiastic parties, and political intrigue. Its membership included some of the most powerful men of the 18th-century England: the Prime Minister, the Lord Mayor of London, bankers, admirals, poets, the Archbishop of Canterbury's son , and Benjamin Franklin. Author Daniel P. Mannix, recounts the history of this British branch of the club in his excellent 1959 book, The Hellfire Club.
Several key Hellfire Club members emigrated to colonial America and started a new American Hellfire Club, independent of and unaffiliated with the British original. They occupied an abandoned church on the present site. The current building was constructed in 1906.
Today the Hellfire Club is widely known as a respectable organization for the rich and influential, principally devoted to giving lavish parties. But very few are aware that the club's Inner Circle, formerly the "Council of the Chosen," conspires to dominate the world, through economic power, politics, a private mercenary army and-in many cases-mutant super powers. Members of the club's Inner Circle occupy positions named after chess pieces.
Inside the Club
(Note: Complete layouts of the Hellfire Club Mansion have not yet been revealed. What follows is a reconstruction based on published accounts. Later accounts may invalidate parts of this description.)
The Hellfire Club admits only members and their guests, so the front entrance is kept locked. Inside the door is a small foyer and cloakroom. (Note the locks, doors and building are all made of normal materials. Nothing about the mansion's construction betrays that it is anything but an ordinary social club.)
The interior decor is 18th-century Colonial, matching the senior member's eccentric predilection for dressing in 18th-century garb during meetings. Walnut paneling, chandeliers, and candelabras of cut glass, gaslight globes in wall sconces-all project an air of obvious elegance, not at all understated.
The mansion's simple floor plan gives pride of place to the great central ballroom, a spacious carpeted room over 120 feet long and 40feet wide. The ceiling is about 29 feet high reaching the roof of the building. There is nothing above the ceiling but electrical wiring. Many elaborate doorways lead to the ballroom. The dominating feature of the room is a palatial fireplace, where a great fire blazes cheerily every evening during winter months.
Rooms and Chambers
A hallway surrounds the ballroom on both floors of the building. On the upper floors, it opens onto a sturdy wooden balcony overlooking the ballroom. Along the outer sides of the hallways on both floors, public restrooms and private chambers are arranged.Public room are on the ground floor. These include a large smoking room, an extensive library (with a large selection of books that earlier centuries deemed "indecent"), and a dining room that seats 64. Next to the dining room is a large and well equipped kitchen.
Two staircases and an elevator give access to the second floor. Members always refer to the 18 small cubicles on this floor as "chambers," as opposed to "rooms." The semantic difference is that "chambers" are for private matters, whether business, gambling or romance. Each chamber measures 15 feet by 10, and each has one roundtable, one chair and a wide padded divan. Chambers are soundproofed. At the rear of the second floor, above the kitchen, are the private rooms of the Inner Circle. Two fully furnished bedrooms are available for the rare times when leaders celebrate too heavily and are unwilling or unable to drive home. Between the bedroom is an elegant meeting room, where the Inner Circle once held the X-Men captive.
The Basement
The mansion has a basement with concrete walls, accessible only from the kitchen on the first floor. The storage area is filled with crates, containing mainly kitchen and party supplies. A locked and guarded basement room holds a small armory for the Inner Circle's mercenaries. Mercenaries have no barracks, lockers, or lounge on the premises, but often they hand around the kitchen. There was once another entrance to the basement...from below, through the sewers. Wolverine used this to break into the mansion and rescue his fellow X-Men. The basement floor had a locked iron gate. The round grate led to a concrete access tunnel and down to the sewers. The Inner Circle used this entrance to smuggle in mercenaries and firearms. But after Wolverine's invasion, the tunnel was filled in with concrete.
The Hellfire Club originated in England in the 1760s as a social organization for the elite of British society. The Club not only provided its members with pleasures, often of sorts that violated moral standards at the time, but also sewed as a means for the members to consolidate their Influence over British economic and political matters. Their mansion looks much more like a building of the sort than its New York counterpart.
http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/7/75/Hellfirelondon.jpg
Yoshi
04-29-2008, 07:56 PM
I <3 Hellfire!
Monty_Cristo
04-29-2008, 08:10 PM
the club needs a new guard:
Roberto Dacosta
Amara Aquilla
Manuel Alfonso Rodrigo De la Rocha
Monet St. Croix
among others
Yoshi
04-29-2008, 08:31 PM
I still <3 Hellfire and my new Black king avatar.
DeniseXfrost
04-29-2008, 08:31 PM
WOw that's alot of work there WBE and I <3<3 the Hellfire Club. I want to see its major comeback.
darknessatnoon
04-29-2008, 08:34 PM
Luckily, I already have a Hellfire avatar.
worstblogever
04-30-2008, 03:29 AM
Our first character on Hellfire Month in the second profile might be somewhat of a surprise. The first of our two characters featured on April 30th is...
Vance Astrovik, Justice
Possible Hellfire Club Member, Agent of Shinobi Shaw
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/8/80/Justicevance.jpg/440px-Justicevance.jpg
First Appearance: Giant Size Defenders #5
First Hellfire Appearance: New Warriors (vol. 1) #43
All Hellfire Appearances: New Warriors (vol. 1) #43-46, X-Force #32,33
Powers: Telekinesis
His Life Before the Hellfire Club: Vance Astrovik was a normal teen who found himself secretly protected by the Guardians of the Galaxy, a group of superheroes from an alternate future who feared Vance was a target of the villainous Korvac. Upon meeting Vance Astro, the Guardian who happened to be an alternate-future version of himself, Vance experienced a mental shock that caused his mutant powers to emerge.
Vance had often been abused by his father throughout his childhood, but his powers led to more abuse from his father, a violent anti-mutant bigot. Vance soon ran away from home and eventually ended up adventuring alongside the Thing, who was taking a leave of absence from the Fantastic Four. Calling himself Marvel Boy, Astrovik joined the Thing as a member of the Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation before finally parting ways.
Vance, as Marvel Boy, later tried to join the Avengers, but was told by his hero, Captain America, that he needed more experience. Feeling rejected and embarrassed, Vance was then approached by Night Thrasher and Nova, who were forming their own team called the New Warriors. Vance quickly became one of the Warriors' most stalwart members and met fellow mutant Firestar, with whom he developed a romantic relationship.
Returning home for a brief period, Vance was struck again by his father, and, when retaliating with his powers, Vance killed him. His mother pressed charges, and Vance was arrested, serving time for murder.
His time working for Shinobi Shaw: Later released from prison for good behavior, Vance adopted a new guise as Justice, and was invited to the Hellfire Club by Shinobi Shaw, its Black King (effectively granting Vance membership) to assist him in the Upstarts’ competition, the Younghunt, as his own proxy. Any kills that Justice got in the competition, would be credited to Shinobi. Vance, agreed, but only so he could warn the New Warriors, and any person Shinobi wanted killed. With the help of X-Force, Cable, and the rest of the New Warriors, Vance helped put an end to the Upstarts’ sick game, and rejoined the New Warriors, often serving in a leadership role.
After the Hellfire Club: Firestar eventually asked Vance to marry her. Vance and Firestar, alongside their teammate Rage, were drawn into conflict with monsters summoned by evil sorceress Morgan Le Fay. Rage, once a member of the Avengers, brought the couple with him as the Avengers reassembled after a period of disbanding to defeat Le Fey. After a strong push to prove himself, Vance, with Firestar, were elected reserve members.
After serving several missions, and feeling vastly inferior to be joining the same league as his idols, Vance was elected to full membership. Continually trying to prove himself, Justice eventually won over his insecurities during the Avengers' battle with the robot Ultron. He had researched the Avengers files, discovering a new means of defeating Ultron and using it to help the Avengers destroy him. After seeing the emotional turmoil Hank Pym and the Wasp went through in the battle, Vance finally began to regard the Avengers as people rather than icons and became more relaxed about working with the team.
Soon afterward, Vance announced his engagement with Firestar, and the two left active duty, presumably to explore their relationship. In reality, they were asked to secretly infiltrate the headquarters of the Triune Understanding, whose leader, Jonathan Tremont, was surreptitiously attacking the Avengers' public image for his own benefit. Vance and Firestar discovered the true cause of the Understanding-- using the beliefs of its members to sympathetically power a spaceship to battle a cosmic menace. They helped a contingent of Avengers join the battle against the menace, and directly afterwards helped the heroes keep the time-travelling Kang from conquering the world. After the crises were averted, they again parted company with the Avengers.
Vance settled into civilian life with relative ease, as much as a public trial, a Dateline special, and four books written about him could allow, although Firestar had a rough transition settling into college studies at Empire State University. Vance was eagerly awaiting the next stage in his life, their upcoming marriage, but Firestar was reluctant. After a heart-to-heart, the couple agreed to call off the wedding, and even the status of their relationship remains uncertain.
During the Civil War he fought alongside Captain America, but after the war he joined the Initiative training camp where he became an instructor. Vance is currently, though secretly, seeing Ultragirl.
What did you think of Vance’s brief stint with the Hellfire Club? Does it make him an actual member? Should his betrayal of Shinobi get him in good with Sebastian Shaw, or should his betrayal of the Black King mean the Hellfire Club should seek him out for revenge?
Leirus
04-30-2008, 04:34 AM
Will you post a profile of Lourdes Chantel Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease?
She was one of the very few spanish mutants... :frown:
worstblogever
04-30-2008, 04:49 AM
Will you post a profile of Lourdes Chantel Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease?
She was one of the very few spanish mutants... :frown:
Wait a couple days, she if she comes up amongst the members whose names begin with "C".
This is me being coy.
Matthew K.
04-30-2008, 05:03 AM
Woo-hoo! Good stuff...I love classic and new Hellfire, the London branch, and the Hellions.
Home made ectoplasm
04-30-2008, 05:27 AM
Nice work. I can see there are going to be a lot of members I've never heard of.
For a start... Vance Astrovik - what kind of costume do you call that? Did you not get the dresscode memo? Also Vance seems to have no distinctive facial hair, and a monogomous relationship with Firestar.
The only hint of perversion seems to be his brief stint as a wrestler.
Here's hoping we get to corsets and muttonchops before long.
worstblogever
04-30-2008, 05:40 AM
Nice work. I can see there are going to be a lot of members I've never heard of.
For a start... Vance Astrovik - what kind of costume do you call that? Did you not get the dresscode memo? Also Vance seems to have no distinctive facial hair, and a monogomous relationship with Firestar.
The only hint of perversion seems to be his brief stint as a wrestler.
Here's hoping we get to corsets and muttonchops before long.
Oh, our second entry for April 30th has some completely different fashion sense than Vance, let me assure you. We're about three hours away from his being entered.
Home made ectoplasm
04-30-2008, 05:52 AM
We're about three hours away from his being entered.
ROFL that's the kind of innuendo I was looking for on this thread!
Dizzy D
04-30-2008, 06:47 AM
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3017/justicexy6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Ah, Vance Astrovik aka Vance Astro. A hero whose real name is better than his superhero name. (Though Justice was a remarkable improvement over "Major Victory" and "Marvel Boy"... the whole Marvel Boy-name/function in the Marvel Universe is pretty interesting also, but not much to do with Hellfire, so I'll step back from delving into that.) Vance's only hint of perversion his time as a wrestler? I have some ideas about that, but I'll leave that for the other threat.
One of the many "mercenaries" for the Hellfire Club, I do consider Vance to be part of it, while other mercenaries may be more freelancers (like Paladin for instance). My opinion is mostly formed by Shinobi keeping him around the Hellfire Club all the time.
His part in the Younghunt is pretty odd though. Shinobi knows that Vance will turn against him, Vance knows Shinobi will turn against him and still they play out the whole game. Vance, usually an intelligent man, must have realised that Shinobi's plan was.. frankly crap.
The future presence of the Hellfire Club in Vance's life:
I'm not seeing much potential there. Vance's powers are pretty impressive and he has a lot of experience as a superhero, but he is not wealthy and has a long history of being a good guy, even with doing time in jail. If the Hellfire Club is interested in a young male telekinetic, Hellon is far more suitable. Being rich, they would at least see him as "one of them".
Revenge for betraying Shinobi? Sebastian isn't in it for revenge, there must be profit and Vance with all his ties to the Avengers, Warriors (what's left of them) and the Fantastic Four would be too great a risk with too little to gain. As for Shinobi, Vance would be far too low on his list of people who have betrayed him and all his resources would be tied up in the struggle with his father (if Sebastian hasn't taken him down off-panel already.) Shinobi also never came accross as somebody busy with carrying grudges. His father is one thing, but he even seemed to forget about Fitzroy cutting of one of his fingers pretty soon.
Hurrah! My faviroute X-Villains month!
We totaly need a huge post on mastermind, he's just epic.
worstblogever
04-30-2008, 09:35 AM
Hurrah! My faviroute X-Villains month!
We totaly need a huge post on mastermind, he's just epic.
Sadly, since we're going alphabetically... you'll have to wait a bit for Jason Wyngarde.
But yes, I plan on it being a thorough history of him.
Home made ectoplasm
04-30-2008, 09:42 AM
Of course all these other Hellfire losers are just a prelude to when we get to the only member that matters, the one, the only, the White King, our Holy Lord Magneto
worstblogever
04-30-2008, 09:45 AM
Of course all these other Hellfire losers are just a prelude to when we get to the only member that matters, the one, the only, the White King, our Holy Lord Magneto
I'm sorry, who?
Name's not ringing a bell.
darknessatnoon
04-30-2008, 09:48 AM
Of course all these other Hellfire losers are just a prelude to when we get to the only member that matters, the one, the only, the White King, our Holy Lord Magneto
That's funny. He was the most useless royal member to ever be admitted.
Home made ectoplasm
04-30-2008, 09:49 AM
I can post multiple images to jog your memory if you'd like
worstblogever
04-30-2008, 09:50 AM
Alright, it's time for the third profile overall, and the second here on April 30th...
Axe – Hired Mercenary of the Hellfire Club
http://www.comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/107/4582_20060815114623_large.jpg
First appearance: New Mutants (vol. 1) #7
First Hellfire appearance: New Mutants (vol. 1) #7.
Last Appearance: Wolverine (vol. 1) #164.
Powers: Enhanced Strength and Durability
His life before the Hellfire Club: Unknown. Believed to have become a mutant mercenary.
His time working for the Hellfire Club: Axe was hired to kidnap Nina Da Costa, the wife of, at the time, Hellfire Club recruit Emmanuel Da Costa by Sebastian Shaw before she could move deep into the Amazon and find the Maderia, the place where Emmanuel’s mining industry was based out of. His attempt was foiled, however, by the New Mutants, and his employment by the Hellfire Club was likely terminated summarily after this failure.
After the Hellfire Club: Axe has only been seen twice since he was given his walking papers by the Hellfire Club. Once, was when he turned up as part of the “Gladiators” organization, that had an arena that they were battling some kidnapped New Mutants in. Before he could really attack Magma, Sunspot, or Cannonball in his second time crossing paths with the group, Magneto showed up at the Gladiator’s arena, and ripped it clean off to reclaim his New Mutant charges (New Mutants (vol. 1) #27).The last time he was seen, it was in a prison designed with power-dampeners for superhumans that he was shown to be an inmate at while Wolverine and Beast were briefly held there (Wolverine (vol. 2) #164).
What did you think of Axe? Should he come back with a grudge against the New Mutants? Should he register with SHRA and become a member of a team, like perhaps the Thunderbolts? Or, should he be locked up for the rest of his natural life?
worstblogever
04-30-2008, 09:51 AM
I can post multiple images to jog your memory if you'd like
There are other threads for that shiz. Talk about AXE! For he is mighty.
darknessatnoon
04-30-2008, 09:52 AM
Nevermind...
Home made ectoplasm
04-30-2008, 09:54 AM
It apears that Sunspot's mother may have been Arcade.
worstblogever
04-30-2008, 09:57 AM
It apears that Sunspot's mother may have been Arcade.
No bowtie or awesome socks. Seems unlikely.
And is it just me, or is Axe trying to tell a "yo mama" joke to 'Berto?
He just became that much more awesome. Black, a mohawk, and axe, and "snaps". He's the coolest guy w/ enhanced strength and stamina ever.
Dizzy D
04-30-2008, 12:42 PM
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8861/axetg0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Dear, dear Axe. I pity da fool who doesn't respect him.
Was it ever made clear that he was a mutant? Cause "mutie trick" isn't exactly what a mutant would say. Way back when I read New Mutants for the first time, I thought he was just a big guy with an axe. His strength wasn't that great (Sunspot was stronger for instance), so he made a pretty crappy New Mutants villain. They had just faced the Brood Queen and now comes .. a guy with an axe. Combine that with the fact that everytime the Hellfire Club needed to fly somewhere they had to spike his milk or hypnotize him, and he's really a Z-list henchman.
I'd like to see him register with the SHRA and assigned to the Thunderbolts. The poor guy would be picked upon by the other Thunderbolts. Even Swordsman has more going for him than having just a sharp instrument in his hands.
His return to the Hellfire Club would be equally painful, now that Sunspot is running things. Revenge by job interview. I can see Roberto liking that and if they ever make that Sunspot/Hellfire Club series that I've been wanting for ages, it's a great source of comedy, but even a guy like Axe wouldn't be that dumb.
The only option left.. the Gladiators? That way lies Storm: The Arena part 2 and Beauty and The Beast featuring Axe. I'm slowly backing away.
Still, I don't think he deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his life. Not so much that he didn't do any crimes, but compared to some of the stuff other supervillains that get in-and-out of jail all the time, have pulled? I'd say he can bother some street-level hero, but between the ultrashort career of a Punisher-villain and lacking the skill and power to become even a C-list Daredevil villain, that option isn't that attractive either. Maybe he could sign up with the Enforcers, his "guy with axe"-shtick would fit in with the big guy, the guy with the lasso and the guy with the gun.
Hi-Fi
04-30-2008, 12:43 PM
This is fun! I love me some Hellfire Club. Axe was so rude to Nina da Costa, though. Do not approve.
david r
04-30-2008, 07:50 PM
http://www.comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/107/4582_20060815114623_large.jpg
Only in the 80s could a black man who looks like that say "One more mutie trick, boY!" And where exactly is Sunspot headed?? Eh?
RoguishGurl
04-30-2008, 07:56 PM
I now have my Hellfire avatar.
Matt K
04-30-2008, 07:57 PM
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8861/axetg0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Dear, dear Axe. I pity da fool who doesn't respect him.
Was it ever made clear that he was a mutant? Cause "mutie trick" isn't exactly what a mutant would say. Way back when I read New Mutants for the first time, I thought he was just a big guy with an axe. His strength wasn't that great (Sunspot was stronger for instance), so he made a pretty crappy New Mutants villain. They had just faced the Brood Queen and now comes .. a guy with an axe. Combine that with the fact that everytime the Hellfire Club needed to fly somewhere they had to spike his milk or hypnotize him, and he's really a Z-list henchman.
I'd like to see him register with the SHRA and assigned to the Thunderbolts. The poor guy would be picked upon by the other Thunderbolts. Even Swordsman has more going for him than having just a sharp instrument in his hands.
His return to the Hellfire Club would be equally painful, now that Sunspot is running things. Revenge by job interview. I can see Roberto liking that and if they ever make that Sunspot/Hellfire Club series that I've been wanting for ages, it's a great source of comedy, but even a guy like Axe wouldn't be that dumb.
The only option left.. the Gladiators? That way lies Storm: The Arena part 2 and Beauty and The Beast featuring Axe. I'm slowly backing away.
Still, I don't think he deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his life. Not so much that he didn't do any crimes, but compared to some of the stuff other supervillains that get in-and-out of jail all the time, have pulled? I'd say he can bother some street-level hero, but between the ultrashort career of a Punisher-villain and lacking the skill and power to become even a C-list Daredevil villain, that option isn't that attractive either. Maybe he could sign up with the Enforcers, his "guy with axe"-shtick would fit in with the big guy, the guy with the lasso and the guy with the gun.
I would imagine that he probably became a lumberjack once he got out of jail.
pryde15
04-30-2008, 07:59 PM
I now have my Hellfire avatar.
Emma Frost, classy :biggrin:
I picked Sage, so obviously trashy.
Monty_Cristo
04-30-2008, 08:00 PM
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3017/justicexy6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Ah, Vance Astrovik aka Vance Astro. A hero whose real name is better than his superhero name. (Though Justice was a remarkable improvement over "Major Victory" and "Marvel Boy"... the whole Marvel Boy-name/function in the Marvel Universe is pretty interesting also, but not much to do with Hellfire, so I'll step back from delving into that.) Vance's only hint of perversion his time as a wrestler? I have some ideas about that, but I'll leave that for the other threat.
One of the many "mercenaries" for the Hellfire Club, I do consider Vance to be part of it, while other mercenaries may be more freelancers (like Paladin for instance). My opinion is mostly formed by Shinobi keeping him around the Hellfire Club all the time.
His part in the Younghunt is pretty odd though. Shinobi knows that Vance will turn against him, Vance knows Shinobi will turn against him and still they play out the whole game. Vance, usually an intelligent man, must have realised that Shinobi's plan was.. frankly crap.
The future presence of the Hellfire Club in Vance's life:
I'm not seeing much potential there. Vance's powers are pretty impressive and he has a lot of experience as a superhero, but he is not wealthy and has a long history of being a good guy, even with doing time in jail. If the Hellfire Club is interested in a young male telekinetic, Hellon is far more suitable. Being rich, they would at least see him as "one of them".
Revenge for betraying Shinobi? Sebastian isn't in it for revenge, there must be profit and Vance with all his ties to the Avengers, Warriors (what's left of them) and the Fantastic Four would be too great a risk with too little to gain. As for Shinobi, Vance would be far too low on his list of people who have betrayed him and all his resources would be tied up in the struggle with his father (if Sebastian hasn't taken him down off-panel already.) Shinobi also never came accross as somebody busy with carrying grudges. His father is one thing, but he even seemed to forget about Fitzroy cutting of one of his fingers pretty soon.
i always kind of hated it when they admitted members who weren't wealthy or businesspeople.
RoguishGurl
04-30-2008, 08:02 PM
Emma Frost, classy :biggrin:
I picked Sage, so obviously trashy.
Don't let darknessatnoon hear you say that!
pryde15
04-30-2008, 08:04 PM
Don't let darknessatnoon hear you say that!
LOL. Darknessatnoon wouldn't attack someone with a Sage avatar.
Actually when I got back into Marvel in 2004, I thought Sage was pretty cool. But that might have to do with the fact that I like purple and she was decked out in it.
Monty_Cristo
04-30-2008, 08:09 PM
LOL. Darknessatnoon wouldn't attack someone with a Sage avatar.
Actually when I got back into Marvel in 2004, I thought Sage was pretty cool. But that might have to do with the fact that I like purple and she was decked out in it.
shhhh, Darknessatnoon hates purple.
lockerogue
04-30-2008, 08:09 PM
I'm debating whether I should have a Fire avatar or a Hellfire Club Avatar. Help me choose.
pryde15
04-30-2008, 08:11 PM
I'm debating whether I should have a Fire avatar or a Hellfire Club Avatar. Help me choose.
LOL. I just had Fire. I am switching back to my Ice avatar after this all over though,. probably.
lockerogue
04-30-2008, 08:12 PM
LOL. I just had Fire. I am switching back to my Ice avatar after this all over though,. probably.
I know you did. But I have the perfect sig to go with picture. I'm just going to go Fire.
worstblogever
05-01-2008, 01:35 AM
I now have my Hellfire avatar.
Lovely. I thought you'd have gone w/ a death glare on a hippie Emma from last week, but that one is the Classic Emma Frost.
worstblogever
05-01-2008, 02:09 AM
Our fourth overall profile, and first of the day on May 1st is...
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/4/4a/Blackheart3.jpg/440px-Blackheart3.jpg
Blackheart - Black King of Hellfire Club
(Fourth incarnation)
First appearance: Daredevil (1st series) #270
First Hellfire IV appearance: Fantastic Four Annual '99
All Hellfire IV appearances: Fantastic Four Annual '99, X-Force #98
Powers : mystical / magical abilities
His pre-Hellfire history:
Centuries of murder saturated the Christ's Crown area with evil until the attempted rape of a young girl named Sarah drew Mephisto to create a “son”, Blackheart, from the accumulated wrongs. Slaying both rapist and victim, Blackheart explored the nature of evil under his father's tutelage, clashing with and failing to corrupt heroes such as Daredevil and Spider-Man.
Observing these mortals led Blackheart to rebel against his father and seek a newer form of evil; in retaliation, Mephisto diminished Blackheart’s powers. Focusing on those who walked the line between good and evil, Blackheart tried and failed to recruit Wolverine (Logan), the Punisher (Frank Castle) and the Ghost Rider (Dan Ketch) to his rebellion. Blackheart also aided Wonder Man against Mephisto and helped Misha of the mercenary Warheads as her telepathic “Voice”, using Mys-Tech’s Rathcoole to obtain a mystic sword which could harm Mephisto. Returning to Christ’s Crown, Blackheart altered his followers into the Corrupt, and employed Wolverine, Punisher, and Ghost Rider as a feint to allow him to anoint the sword with an innocent’s blood. He apparently slew Mephisto, banishing his “father” from Hell and restoring his own powers to full strength.
As Hell’s ruler, Blackheart focused on corrupting the Ghost Rider, aiding the Furies to possess mortal bodies to torment Ghost Rider and resurrecting the Scarecrow (Ebenezer Laughton) to send after Ketch. From his palace in the Burning Flesh district, Blackheart created his own Spirits of Vengeance: his consort Black Rose (the deceased Roxanne Simpson, ex-wife of Dan Ketch’s brother, Johnny Blaze), Verminus Rex (a spirit who had battled the Ghost Rider during World War I), Wallow (a homicidal mortal suicide whom Ghost Rider had thwarted), Doghead (a downtrodden immigrant), and Pao Fu (who had died in the arms of Ghost Rider as he tried to save her). Blackheart bargained to free Ghost Rider’s relatives from their curse; in return, Ghost Rider agreed to lead Blackheart’s Spirits. However, the pair fell out and Ghost Rider destroyed Blackheart, banishing him from Hell. In that void, Mephisto was revealed to somehow be resurrected, and has again reclaimed hell from his son.
While ruler of Hell, Blackheart had tormented the soul of the mutant Stryfe by manipulating the X-Force group, and led to a confrontation in his realm between Stryfe and the team. This mystic battle would attract the attention of the mutant sorceress Selene.
His time in the Hellfire Club:
Selene recruited Blackheart to be the Black King of the fourth incarnation of the Hellfire Club. One she created to be truly borne of Hellfire. Blackheart and his Hellfire Club allies would be uncovered by noted scholar Alyssa Moy, who was mystically attacked while researching the clandestine organization. She enlists the help of the Fantastic Four, who are totally out of their element and seek out help themselves, but none of their mystic friends (Dr. Strange, Hellstorm, Agatha Harkness, Scarlet Witch) are available, so they ask Margali Szardos and also gain another ally in Mechamage. Infiltrating the Hellfire Club, they discover that Selene restarted the Inner Circle her first new addition was Blackheart. Because of Margali‘s training the FF are able to hold their own against the mystic foes, and they even free Daimon Hellstrom who was defeated and forced to become this Hellfire Club's White King earlier. Together they imprison Blackheart in the Club's basement for the time being. (Fantastic Four Annual '99)
Blackheart later is freed and asked by Selene to retrieve the soul of Julianna, Sunspot’s girlfriend, who died saving him back in Marvel Graphic Novel #4 . She demands Bobby join the Hellfire Club in return for a new chance at life for Julianna. Bobby accepts, and the amnesiac soul is planted into a girl, who just died, by Blackheart. Bobby would later meet the girl on the street he runs into "Julianna". (X-Force (vol. 1) #98).How it came to be that the incarnation of the Hellfire Club with Blackheart disbanded has never been explained, if it did indeed happen. Some think the spell that Margali Szardos cast to bind Blackheart to the basement of that building has stuck, and he is still bound there to this day.
http://toonsntunes.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/blackheart.jpg
What are your thoughts on Blackheart, and his role with the Hellfire Club? Where do you think he is now? Does this somehow make Mephisto or other mystical forces factor into the legacy of the Hellfire Club?
The Sword Is Drawn
05-01-2008, 05:31 AM
In lieu of Hellfire Month my Avatar is now Brian Braddock - Black Bishop of the London Hellfire Club, circa Excalibur 96.
worstblogever
05-01-2008, 05:55 AM
In lieu of Hellfire Month my Avatar is now Brian Braddock - Black Bishop of the London Hellfire Club, circa Excalibur 96.
Since we're going alphabetically on the HC club members, you can get excited... Brian's only a few more entries away, as is his dad, and sister...
Dizzy D
05-01-2008, 06:31 AM
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/7215/blackheartwt1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Thank God for Adam Pollina's tux-wearing Blackheart.
I wasn't a fan of Blackheart in the Hellfire Club. The Hellfire Club playing with real Hellfire was already done in the London Hellfire Club story, but at least there the demon was just a tool for them. The Club works better when they represent human evil.
On the side of Blackheart himself, he really has little to gain in joining the Hellfire Club. What's in it for him? Money and power? Allies in his struggle against his father? The first he already has in abundance and the second .. well the only thing that can hurt Mephisto that we've seen so far are pure souls. None of them you're likely to find around the Hellfire Club. Speaking of pure souls, I do wonder how he got his claws on Julianna's soul. Did she have a dark past which was never revealed to us?
I quite liked Blackheart's role in his earlier appearance in X-Force though and his appearances in Ghost Rider and Daredevil.
worstblogever
05-01-2008, 06:47 AM
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/7215/blackheartwt1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Thank God for Adam Pollina's tux-wearing Blackheart.
I wasn't a fan of Blackheart in the Hellfire Club. The Hellfire Club playing with real Hellfire was already done in the London Hellfire Club story, but at least there the demon was just a tool for them. The Club works better when they represent human evil.
On the side of Blackheart himself, he really has little to gain in joining the Hellfire Club. What's in it for him? Money and power? Allies in his struggle against his father? The first he already has in abundance and the second .. well the only thing that can hurt Mephisto that we've seen so far are pure souls. None of them you're likely to find around the Hellfire Club. Speaking of pure souls, I do wonder how he got his claws on Julianna's soul. Did she have a dark past which was never revealed to us?
I quite liked Blackheart's role in his earlier appearance in X-Force though and his appearances in Ghost Rider and Daredevil.
I have a scan of that Polina "Blackheart in a tux" to add when I get home from work (don't have the file at work :frown: ). But it'll be there.
Really, the only theory I have for how Blackheart gets souls from this arrangement was that he could channel every person who Selene has ever absorbed ever, so by getting into a deal with her, he'd get the souls of thousands, at least. Most of them innocent virgins who were sacrificed to her in the volcano in South America, at that. Demons eat that stuff up w/ whipped cream.
Still, that's even a reach, and Blackheart in the HC is a bit of one already.
ToxicTeen
05-01-2008, 08:07 AM
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/7215/blackheartwt1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
That's so cute. :tongue:
Anyway. Can't wait to see the profile for Selene the Black Queen. :wink: And are you going to include the first Black Queen Dark Phoenix?
darknessatnoon
05-01-2008, 08:39 AM
Emma Frost, classy :biggrin:
I picked Sage, so obviously trashy.
It's a great avatar. And I have no problem with Sage getting a little "trashy" every now and then. It just means she's comfortable in her skin.
worstblogever
05-01-2008, 11:45 AM
That's so cute. :tongue:
Anyway. Can't wait to see the profile for Selene the Black Queen. :wink: And are you going to include the first Black Queen Dark Phoenix?
You'll have to wait and see, won't ya? :wink:
worstblogever
05-01-2008, 11:57 AM
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/blackheartinatux.jpg
The promised Blackheart in a suit...
Dizzy D
05-01-2008, 12:10 PM
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/blackheartinatux.jpg
The promised Blackheart in a suit...
Ah, I see I put the rose on the wrong side and should have coloured the shirt differently.
I like that look for him, far better than the nude look.
Imraith Nimphais
05-01-2008, 12:18 PM
It's probably just me...but ever since his "birth/debut" in DD...I've had positively lewd and xtimes3 thoughts about Blackheart...I do lust him as a character...very much...I know I'll burn in hell for this...but I wouldn't mind at all if He's there.
btw: thanx a gazillion WBE for this thread. THC has always been one of my favourite X-villian groups.
worstblogever
05-01-2008, 12:24 PM
It's probably just me...but ever since his "birth/debut" in DD...I've had positively lewd and xtimes3 thoughts about Blackheart...I do lust him as a character...very much...I know I'll burn in hell for this...but I wouldn't mind at all if He's there.
btw: thanx a gazillion WBE for this thread. THC has always been one of my favourite X-villian groups.
Hey, the fun's just startin'. It's only May 1st... and nearly time for the fourth character to be revealed...
worstblogever
05-01-2008, 12:36 PM
Our fifth profile overall, and second on May 1st is...
Elias Bogan -
Rumored Original Lord Imperial of Hellfire Club (1780s founding incarnation)
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/EliasBoganmask.jpg
First Appearance: Believed to have been X-Treme X-Men #21, provided he is never revealed to be the Shadow King.
All Hellfire appearances: Only revealed in flashback to have overseen a bet between Sebastian Shaw and one of his pawns, Oliver Ryland, where if he won, he would win Emma Frost.
Last Appearance: X-Treme X-Men #45.
Powers: Telepath, able to mentally possess foes.
Prior to being in the Hellfire Club: Nothing is truly known about who Elias Bogan really is, onlythat he is a mutant telepath and a wealthy, powerful recluse. The rumor is that he was the inspiration for the original founding chapter of the Hellfire Club in the 1780s. (Rumors among readers are that he may have been intended to have been revealed to have been the original Shadow King, due to their identical power sets and that Amahl Farouk was simply another mutant whom Bogan possessed. That never came to fruition, though.)
While a member of the Club: Bogan was the first Lord Imperial but held no rank in New York branch of the Club. Still he was regarded by most as a formidable member of the Club and no one dared to investigate his identity, or his machinations. At one point, though, there was a wager between the new Black King of the Inner Circle, Sebastian and another member, Oliver Ryland, who was a pawn of Elias Bogan. If Bogan and Ryland had won, Emma Frost, the then-White Queen of the Club, would belong to him, and if Shaw would win, his fortune would be made. Shaw significantly swung the odds in his favor by enlisting help from Tessa, and seemingly achieved the impossible and beat Ryland in a poker game. Bogan honored the wager but held a grudge against Tessa for her interference.
Years later, Bogan exacted his revenge on Tessa by capturing her and branding her face with bleeding eyes marks, which is what usually happens to people being possessed by Bogan. Shaw could have ransomed her, at the cost of everything he owned, but the price was too much for him and Shaw abandoned Tessa. Surprisingly, Tessa was saved Storm.
After he was done with the Club: Following a murder at one of Bogan's estates in Alaska, he followed the perpetrator Jeffrey Garrett (infamous for later being the New X-Men “ghost mutant”) to the Xavier Institute. There he took possession of Emma Frost. He also encountered and captured Tessa, now Sage of the X-Men, along with Bishop and other students of the school, and holed up in the Danger Room. Upon meeting their leader Storm, Bogan tried to take control of her and was unsuccessful.
However, during this incident, Bogan briefly gained full access to the X-Men’s Cerebra, which succeeded with the help of another X-Man who Bogan had made his telepathic slave, Rachel Summers. The X-Men didn’t learn about her involvement before coming into conflict with Bogan once again, this time in Valle Soleada, CA, which Bogan wanted to turn into his own private hunting preserve, believing that no one would ever find him there. Bogan had a secret base in the catacombs under it, that a century before had been the secret home of the Los Angeles branch of the Hellfire Club. (Nevermind that Los Angeles was hardly a metropolis prior to 1900.) The X-Men had to confront lawyers and mercenaries employed by Bogan several times before successfully infiltrating his base and gaining the possession of a crystal that held both Bogan’s and Rachel’s essences inside it. Rachel Summers was freed and the crystal shattered, but Bogan managed to run away again. Bogan attacked again the following day, but the psychic attack made Magma, of the X-Corporation, destroy the catacombs and the X-Corporation headquarters with molten lava. He has not been seen, nor heard from since.
What are your thoughts on Elias Bogan and his mysterious role with the Hellfire Club? Who is he really? Why did he seemingly step out of his role as Lord Imperial if he is truly immortal?
darknessatnoon
05-01-2008, 12:53 PM
What are your thoughts on Elias Bogan and his mysterious role with the Hellfire Club? Who is he really? Why did he seemingly step out of his role as Lord Imperial if he is truly immortal?
Who says Bogan isn't still the Lord Imperial? I find it very suspicious to see a Magnum P.I. addict suddenly spouting off about Virtue.
The moral of the Tale of Elias Bogan, for me, is never try to bluff Sage in a poker game.
That Shaw refused to ransom Sage back is indicative that, when it comes down to it, the Hellfire Club is still basically a boy's club.
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/darknessatnoon/ouch-1.jpg
Dizzy D
05-01-2008, 01:16 PM
Bogan posed a problem. I made a little dude of the guy that is shown on Bogan's page on the Marvel Database, but I guess that was really Ryland (it's been ages since I read the Bogan stories in X-treme.)
Still don't want to waste him: So Bogan (might be Ryland)
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2725/bogangb4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I have very little to say about Bogan, which is appropriate because he really has done very little in his supposedly long career. The only thing he has going for him is that he *isn't* the Shadow King. I'm saving my "role of Lord Imperial in chess"-bit for Gordon, because I have nothing to say about him either.
I just imagine that Bogan really is a manic/depressive mutant controller, whose short bursts of activity result in failure which then leads to long periods of depression and apathy. He just sulked about losing Sage for [insert vague Marvel time-period] and now is in his post-Rachel depression.
The Sword Is Drawn
05-01-2008, 05:15 PM
What are your thoughts on Elias Bogan and his mysterious role with the Hellfire Club? Who is he really? Why did he seemingly step out of his role as Lord Imperial if he is truly immortal?
I firmly believe that it had been Chris Claremont's plan to reveal the truth about Elias Bogan in New Excalibur, before editorial did an about turn on the planned first year of the book. It was always inferred that Bogan was a founding member of the Hellfire Club. And of course the founding branch of the club was in London. We all know that the 'Dark X-Men' as they were originally called in panel would later be written in as being controlled by the Shadow King. I don't buy into that as part of the original plan. For one the Shadow King's beef was with Psylocke, and yet in the first encounter with these alternate X-Men no attempt is made on Betsy'd life or even to lure her anywhere. She simply isn't a target.
And secondly, take a look at the masks those X-Men were wearing. Am I the only one who thinks that the styling underneath the eye-holes looks very similar to the tattoos Bogan forced upon Sage? When she encounters a psychic attack from the alternate Xavier, several issues down the line, the same motif is shown again.
Sadly, I guess we'll never get an answer on that, now. And I'm gutted about that. I genuinely found Bogan to be quite interesting.
Come To Deathstrike
05-01-2008, 06:07 PM
That's funny. He was the most useless royal member to ever be admitted.
I'm offended.
I did not know he defiled the halls.
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/blackheartinatux.jpg
The promised Blackheart in a suit...
I like Blackheart.
But I do not like Ghost Rider.
Darn.
darknessatnoon
05-01-2008, 06:36 PM
I'm offended.
I did not know he defiled the halls.
He offered to pimp out Magik to Sebastian Shaw, and brokered a royal seat. When he lost her, Shaw kicked him out.
worstblogever
05-01-2008, 06:40 PM
He offered to pimp out Magik to Sebastian Shaw, and brokered a royal seat. When he lost her, Shaw kicked him out.
I don't recall that being in the comprehensive Blackheart history I wrote. Or in Shaw's.
However, a demon prostituing a child to a pervy power broker... I regret I could see Chuck Austen trying to write it. But it'd feature Nurse Annie.
darknessatnoon
05-01-2008, 06:41 PM
I don't recall that being in the comprehensive Blackheart history I wrote. Or in Shaw's.
However, a demon prostituing a child to a pervy power broker... I regret I could see Chuck Austen trying to write it. But it'd feature Nurse Annie.
Josef was referring to Magneto.
Monty_Cristo
05-01-2008, 06:45 PM
He offered to pimp out Magik to Sebastian Shaw, and brokered a royal seat. When he lost her, Shaw kicked him out.
funny. i remember Magneto kicking Shaw's @$$ and, both, the White and Black Queen siding w/ him.
He offered to pimp out Magik to Sebastian Shaw, and brokered a royal seat. When he lost her, Shaw kicked him out.
Magneto fights Sebstastian Shaw in the ruins of Xavier's mansion post-Inferno; Sebastian Shaw is angered that Magneto has lost the trust of the New Mutants & the X-Men are dead. Magik had the most potential to be a candidate more with the Hellfire Club given her demonic nature & black sorcery, but all is lost when Illyana reverts back to being a 7 year old girl. Magneto & Shaw fought in a duel:
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/56757119524.75.GIF
Sebastian Shaw lost his rank within the Inner Circle as the Hellfire Club's Black King, although he still belonged to the Hellfire Club--not its Inner Circle--when Selene & Emma Frost voted Shaw out. In time Magneto wanted to get rid of Selene to leave only himself & Emma Frost as the Hellfire Club's rulers. However, all changed when the Shadow King took control of the Inner Circle sometime inbetween Uncanny X-Men #253-275 when Magneto renounced his connection to the Hellfire Club.
worstblogever
05-01-2008, 06:56 PM
Magneto fights Sebstastian Shaw in the ruins of Xavier's mansion post-Inferno; Sebastian Shaw is angered that Magneto has lost the trust of the New Mutants & the X-Men are dead. Magik had the most potential to be a candidate more with the Hellfire Club given her demonic nature & black sorcery, but all is lost when Illyana reverts back to being a 7 year old girl. Magneto & Shaw fought in a duel:
Sebastian Shaw lost his rank within the Inner Circle as the Hellfire Club's Black King, although he still belonged to the Hellfire Club--not its Inner Circle--when Selene & Emma Frost voted Shaw out. In time Magneto wanted to get rid of Selene to leave only himself & Emma Frost as the Hellfire Club's rulers. However, all changed when the Shadow King took control of the Inner Circle sometime inbetween Uncanny X-Men #253-275 when Magneto renounced his connection to the Hellfire Club.
That's real swell, DDM. But we haven't actually begun talking about these Hellfire Characters yet. If you must quote issue numbers, could you try doing so about the ones that are up for discussion on that day, i.e. Blackheart & Elias Bogan for today? Otherwise, this thread is going to keep bouncing back to the original Inner Circle again, again, and again. Let's let everyone else get their spotlight, too.
Thanks, though.
Come To Deathstrike
05-01-2008, 07:08 PM
I have a strange blackheart comic.
Ghost rider, Wolverine and the punisher all team up on him.
It had bad art, And the Rider realised he could transform without the bike?
Or something.
It was OK.
worstblogever
05-01-2008, 07:13 PM
I have a strange blackheart comic.
Ghost rider, Wolverine and the punisher all team up on him.
It had bad art, And the Rider realised he could transform without the bike?
Or something.
It was OK.
I know the one you're talking about... they try to save the soul of a young mutant girl from Blackheart, right?
Ghost Rider/Punisher/Wolverine: Dark Design #1.
Come To Deathstrike
05-01-2008, 07:31 PM
I know the one you're talking about... they try to save the soul of a young mutant girl from Blackheart, right?
Ghost Rider/Punisher/Wolverine: Dark Design #1.
That is it!!!!
It is at the extreme bottomofmycomiccollection though.
I nearly went looking for it as he was mentioned today, but Today I have no energy.
=]
Monty_Cristo
05-01-2008, 07:50 PM
That's real swell, DDM. But we haven't actually begun talking about these Hellfire Characters yet. If you must quote issue numbers, could you try doing so about the ones that are up for discussion on that day, i.e. Blackheart & Elias Bogan for today? Otherwise, this thread is going to keep bouncing back to the original Inner Circle again, again, and again. Let's let everyone else get their spotlight, too.
Thanks, though.
he posted that because another poster said that Sebastian threw Magneto out of the club because he lost control of Magik. he was just correcting that poster.
darknessatnoon
05-01-2008, 08:22 PM
I didn't mind the correction. I only vaguely remembered the issues in question.
worstblogever
05-02-2008, 07:23 AM
he posted that because another poster said that Sebastian threw Magneto out of the club because he lost control of Magik. he was just correcting that poster.
While that didn't start the derail... it sure was going to keep that train chugging far, far off the tracks. I have no problem with DDM, I'm just trying to keep things topic.
And on a sidenote, I will also start a thread at the end of the month about who SHOULD be in the Hellfire Club. Feel free to throw Shortpack's name into the ring.
worstblogever
05-02-2008, 07:32 AM
Our sixth entry overall, and first here on May 2nd is...
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/JamesBraddock.jpg
James “John“ Braddock Sr.
(onetime Black Bishop of London Hellfire Club)
First Appearance: Captain Britain (1st series) #14
Last Appearance: Captain Britain (1st series) #14
All Hellfire Club appearances: X-Men: The Hellfire Club #4
Powers: James Braddock stems from Otherworld and has slightly increased strength and stamina, though he apparently never used these abilities.
His time before the Hellfire Club:
Well, obviously he ended up having three kids with Mrs. Braddock that we know as Jamie Braddock, Brian Braddock (Captain Britain) and Elisabeth “Betsy” Braddock (Psylocke). Then…
As a Hellfire Club Member:
James Braddock Sr. is seen in his one comic book appearance joining the New York Hellfire Club, but somehow he later is referenced as a part of the London Chapter, indicating he was transferred to it, somehow. There, its been revealed he held the position of Bishop, but it is unknown which color (Red or Black). Braddock claimed he was only part of the Hellfire Club because it helped his business.
James Braddock's membership to the club has been offered to, or passed down to two of his children, Brian Braddock and Elizabeth “Betsy“ Braddock. His third child, James “Jamie“ Braddock Jr. has yet to have been shown to be involved with the club.
What are your thoughts on James Braddock, Sr., and his involvement with the Hellfire Club? What secret deals did he strike during his time within it?
That's real swell, DDM. But we haven't actually begun talking about these Hellfire Characters yet. If you must quote issue numbers, could you try doing so about the ones that are up for discussion on that day, i.e. Blackheart & Elias Bogan for today? Otherwise, this thread is going to keep bouncing back to the original Inner Circle again, again, and again. Let's let everyone else get their spotlight, too.
Thanks, though.
I was correcting darknessatnoon's statement about Magneto, Magik & the Hellfire Club; it's all untrue.
The Sword Is Drawn
05-02-2008, 10:06 AM
What are your thoughts on James Braddock, Sr., and his involvement with the Hellfire Club? What secret deals did he strike during his time within it?
Well, Sir James is a real enigma character. Charged by Merlyn to bring him a human heir capable of replacing him as Guardian of Marvel multiverse. He almost certainly genetically engineered all three of his children, was a former Captain Britain himself, was murdered by a computer he created to serve and train his children, and was also shown to be involved in creating gentic weapons for service on Genosha.
Was he all bad? No. But he cetainly wasn't all good either. Much like Merlyn. His exact dealings with the Hellfire Club have never really been expanded on. Was he using them to greater end? Or was he just a bit of bastard?
Who can say? But here's a bit more, from Excalibur vol 2 #3:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/930/nexc3df0.jpg
As you can see the appearance of Sir James has been somewhat changed over the years... :biggrin:
worstblogever
05-02-2008, 10:11 AM
Well, Sir James is a real enigma character. Charged by Merlyn to bring him a human heir capable of replacing him as Guardian of Marvel multiverse. He almost certainly genetically engineered all three of his children, was a former Captain Britain himself, was murdered by a computer he created to serve and train his children, and was also shown to be involved in creating gentic weapons for service on Genosha.
Was he all bad? No. But he cetainly wasn't all good either. Much like Merlyn. His exact dealings with the Hellfire Club have never really been expanded on. Was he using them to greater end? Or was he just a bit of bastard?
Who can say? But here's a bit more, from Excalibur vol 2 #3:
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As you can see the appearance of Sir James has been somewhat changed over the years... :biggrin:
There you are... I knew you'd be totally down with chatting about the Braddocks.
Yeah, there's a lot of backstory on Sir James I wish they'd get around to covering... Pete Wisdom dusts off some old file somewhere about the HC being investigated by MI:#... and it turns out he was under surveillance with the Hellfire Club for doing somethings shady... then he and Captain Britain have to retrace Sir James' steps from a generation previous to save something in the present, all the while, Brian has to soul search about his pops.
It really could make for a great story. Much like a lot of Hellfire Club tie-ins...
Dizzy D
05-02-2008, 10:16 AM
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I've two versions of James Sr. because he really seemed to be two people. We have the quiet father/scientist and Merlyn's champion.
Dark deals: there is something there. James Sr. worked on practical applications on the plastic skin of a mutant and about 30 years later, that plastic was used to make smart bullets that were used to kill mutants in Genosha. The bullets were delivered by Black Air, who were on the Hellfire Club's payroll. I believe it was revealed at the end that James Sr. was just doing research and the later applications were done without his approval and that he resigned because of this, but it wouldn't be the first time he was deceiving the people around him. It fits with his role as a quiet scientist, but the man who is behind the facade, master manipulator Merlyn's greatest servant and most trusted student. I find it hard to believe that he didn't see what was happening to his inventions. And who knows how many other dark inventions of Sr. James are still lying around.
What did he get out of the Hellfire Club? Was it just business? I believe so, the political influence and power would really matter little to him, for him Earth was just one among many planets. A bit of experimentation with mutants for weapons and servants for Merlyn perhaps, but still nothing that important. He just needed the prestige and money to get the purpose of his presence on Earth, his children, the best education possible.
Oh, the appendix to the Handbook of the Marvel Universe-website, claims that he was the Black Bishop.
worstblogever
05-02-2008, 10:20 AM
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Oh, the appendix to the Handbook of the Marvel Universe-website, claims that he was the Black Bishop.
That would make sense, considering that's the title someone related to him would be offered...
The Sword Is Drawn
05-02-2008, 10:26 AM
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I've two versions of James Sr. because he really seemed to be two people. We have the quiet father/scientist and Merlyn's champion.
Those are brilliant Dizzy D.
Dark deals: there is something there. James Sr. worked on practical applications on the plastic skin of a mutant and about 30 years later, that plastic was used to make smart bullets that were used to kill mutants in Genosha. The bullets were delivered by Black Air, who were on the Hellfire Club's payroll. I believe it was revealed at the end that James Sr. was just doing research and the later applications were done without his approval and that he resigned because of this, but it wouldn't be the first time he was deceiving the people around him. It fits with his role as a quiet scientist, but the man who is behind the facade, master manipulator Merlyn's greatest servant and most trusted student. I find it hard to believe that he didn't see what was happening to his inventions. And who knows how many other dark inventions of Sr. James are still lying around.
That's certainly how the Excalibur story seemed to pan out. Obviousy, Brian wanted solid answers of what his father had truly been involved with. Sadly for him Sugar Man destroyed the records before they could see them.
There's a whole world of possibilites for stories with Sir James. I would love a Captain Britain & MI:13 story arc to focus on some of that. Call it Sir James Braddock: Captain Britain, or something. :biggrin:
[What did he get out of the Hellfire Club? Was it just business? I believe so, the political influence and power would really matter little to him, for him Earth was just one among many planets. A bit of experimentation with mutants for weapons and servants for Merlyn perhaps, but still nothing that important. He just needed the prestige and money to get the purpose of his presence on Earth, his children, the best education possible.
Quite possibly. Although, I always speculated that his association with them might have been part and parcel of getting technology and knowledge to perfect the process of breeding his children. I find it hard to believe that it all went right first time, you know (Well Jamie obviously wasn't QUITE right, but...). There's probably a lab sumewhere on the family estate, hidden away, full of 'test' Brians and Betsy's which didn't work out...
[Oh, the appendix to the Handbook of the Marvel Universe-website, claims that he was the Black Bishop.
Yes. Brian took his father's title in Excalibur, to ind out about wjat was connecting the London HFC and Black Air. He was named as Black Bishop, then, and so it would follow that his father had been also.
worstblogever
05-02-2008, 10:33 AM
That's certainly how the Excalibur story seemed to pan out. Obviousy, Brian wanted solid answers of what his father had truly been involved with. Sadly for him Sugar Man destroyed the records before they could see them.
There's a whole world of possibilites for stories with Sir James. I would love a Captain Britain & MI:13 story arc to focus on some of that. Call it Sir James Braddock: Captain Britain, or something. :biggrin:
CB & MI13 might end up being where you get your wish, if it continues as an ongoing series after Secret Invasion. I'd love to read such a story there.
Dizzy D
05-02-2008, 10:36 AM
That's certainly how the Excalibur story seemed to pan out. Obviousy, Brian wanted solid answers of what his father had truly been involved with. Sadly for him Sugar Man destroyed the records before they could see them.
I'm talking a bit later, just after the defeat of Black Air/Hellfire Club that Brian finds out his father was innocent. (I must say that was storytelling by the book for Ellis: Brian finds out his father is involved in something bad, conflict with Black Air/HC+personal conflict, defeats Black King who wields the very weapon his father created, resolution. Nice! Storyarc 2: now we can add twists to what happened.)
Quite possibly. Although, I always speculated that his association with them might have been part and parcel of getting technology and knowledge to perfect the process of breeding his children. I find it hard to believe that it all went right first time, you know (Well Jamie obviously wasn't QUITE right, but...). There's probably a lab sumewhere on the family estate, hidden away, full of 'test' Brians and Betsy's which didn't work out...
Mostly my problem with him getting tech or knowledge on this Earth is: Really what do they have to offer him? It's pre-Doom/Richards, Otherworld has technology that can blow up universes. They're monkeys to him...
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Except... Sinister has ties to the London Hellfire Club (Union Jack/Pierce issue of the HC mini-series)... and Sinister has ties to the High Evolutionary and Apocalypse, who do have better tech than the average monkey. OK, maybe you're on to something there.
Yes. Brian took his father's title in Excalibur, to ind out about wjat was connecting the London HFC and Black Air. He was named as Black Bishop, then, and so it would follow that his father had been also.
I'm still wondering if it works out quite that way, supposedly white/black in court or red/black in court are switching with each generation (except they have had both courts in session for ages now in nearly all incarnations.) With a hereditary title, that would be a bit tricky.
Matt K
05-02-2008, 10:49 AM
Except... Sinister has ties to the London Hellfire Club (Union Jack/Pierce issue of the HC mini-series)... and Sinister has ties to the High Evolutionary and Apocalypse, who do have better tech than the average monkey. OK, maybe you're on to something there.
Add in his goal involves genetics and possible cloning. There really is no one better to see in the MU than Mr. Sinister (except the High Evolutionary).
I too would love to see more of James' involvement with the HFC. He definitely seemed to be a pretty good fit.
The Sword Is Drawn
05-02-2008, 11:07 AM
CB & MI13 might end up being where you get your wish, if it continues as an ongoing series after Secret Invasion. I'd love to read such a story there.
CB & MI:13 is an ongoing. It was always intended as such. Cornell was given the gig as 'Excalibur' but the editors and marketing men decided a clean break from a brand which had been driven into the ground would be a good idea. They changed the name to Captain Britain & MI:13.
I'm talking a bit later, just after the defeat of Black Air/Hellfire Club that Brian finds out his father was innocent. (I must say that was storytelling by the book for Ellis: Brian finds out his father is involved in something bad, conflict with Black Air/HC+personal conflict, defeats Black King who wields the very weapon his father created, resolution. Nice! Storyarc 2: now we can add twists to what happened.)
Ellis did a lot of good work on that book. Such a shame that somebody at Marvel wanted to kill it after he left.
Mostly my problem with him getting tech or knowledge on this Earth is: Really what do they have to offer him? It's pre-Doom/Richards, Otherworld has technology that can blow up universes. They're monkeys to him...
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Except... Sinister has ties to the London Hellfire Club (Union Jack/Pierce issue of the HC mini-series)... and Sinister has ties to the High Evolutionary and Apocalypse, who do have better tech than the average monkey. OK, maybe you're on to something there.
Totally. I'm trying to think just how far back Marvel's London Hellfire Club went. Sinister would very likely have been involved with such a group back his Nathaniel Essex days. It's his kind of gig.
I'm still wondering if it works out quite that way, supposedly white/black in court or red/black in court are switching with each generation (except they have had both courts in session for ages now in nearly all incarnations.) With a hereditary title, that would be a bit tricky.
It's a bit sticky, granted. I wish somebody would nail it down properly.
Dizzy D
05-02-2008, 11:11 AM
It's a bit sticky, granted. I wish somebody would nail it down properly.
It could work well with rival families though. There was supposed to be all this cloak 'n dagger going on in the Inner Circle with power grabs all the time, so you have a house of traditional Red Bishops and traditional Black Bishops constantly deposing each other.
worstblogever
05-02-2008, 11:19 AM
It could work well with rival families though. There was supposed to be all this cloak 'n dagger going on in the Inner Circle with power grabs all the time, so you have a house of traditional Red Bishops and traditional Black Bishops constantly deposing each other.
Indeed, Hellfire Club #4 has a party where we have Sebastian Shaw, Howard Stark, Brian Braddock, and Warren Worthington, Jr. in attendance, among others. They might not have been in the Inner Circle at the time... but there's a lot of potential story in a lot of that...
worstblogever
05-02-2008, 11:30 AM
Our second entry for May 2nd, and the seventh overall Hellfire Club profile is...
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Brian Braddock (Captain Britain) –
Black Bishop of the London Hellfire Club
First appearance: Captain Britain (vol. 1) #1 (Marvel UK)
First London Hellfire appearance: Excalibur #96
All London Hellfire appearances: Excalibur #96-100
Powers: Brian is superhumanly strong, able to lift 90 tons, and possesses enhanced reflexes, stamina and senses (sufficient to pierce holograms, but not on a par with Wolverine). He can also fly up to 770 mph for prolonged periods. He derives his energies from the friction between dimensions, focused in a matrix centered on the U.K., and formerly needed his costume to focus his powers and provide a battery when outside the U.K.; however he may have alleviated this weakness when he briefly severed his mystic connection to the U.K. to empower Kelsey Leigh. As Britannic, he had prophetic visions, tied to memories of experiencing all history while lost in the timeline. He is apparently immune to his sister's psionic powers, though not his elder brother's reality warping abilities.
Before Joining the Hellfire Club:Brian Braddock’s life was planned for him from before he was even born; for him there is no coincidence. Merlyn sent James Braddock to Earth-616 to sire a champion who could defend the multiverse against the myriad threats facing it; the studious Brian was his third child. He grew up a solitary child, save for his siblings, losing himself in books. Home on a break from studying physics at Thames University, Brian was out dating Valerie Campbell when his parents were killed, apparently in a lab accident but actually by the computer Mastermind; Brian was overwhelmed with guilt that he had not being present to prevent their deaths. He took a summer job at Darkmoor Nuclear Complex, a secret research facility near the Scottish border, soon after his parents died, trying to keep himself busy, but the facility was attacked by the forces of Joshua Stragg, the Reaver, who sought to kidnap the scientists within and make it look like they had all died in a reactor accident. At the urging of his mentor Dr. Travis, Brian fled on a motor bike to get help. Forced over a cliff by his pursuers, he dragged his injured body from the burning wreckage to witness a vision of Merlyn and the Lady of the Northern Skies (Roma) above a ring of standing stones; told to choose between the Sword of Might and Amulet of Right, Brian picked the latter, feeling the sword was a symbol of death and that he was no warrior. He was struck by mystical energy and transformed into the costumed hero Captain Britain; the new hero swiftly gained the upper hand against the Reaver, who, after grabbing the sword, had been transformed by the Nethergods, Merlin’s foes. Merlyn eventually took the opportunity to upgrade his champion, transforming his costume to enhance his strength and incorporate the powers of flight and forcefield previously part of his sceptre.
As a member of the Hellfire Club:
Since none of his operatives is in the Inner Circle were in London, Shinobi Shaw asks Captain Britain (Brian Braddock) to join the Club using his inherited membership, telling him that a dangerous villain, called Mountjoy, has infiltrated its ranks. Brian applies for the seat of Black Bishop by right of ancestry. The Club's Red Bishop challenges him to a duel for sole bishopric, but Brian pretty much one-punches the poor sap. In his short time as a member, Ms. Steed, the Black Queen, brings Brian up to date to the Club's business. The mysterious Scribe also appears in Brian's quarters and reveals that the Hellfire Club knows of Brian's life as a superhero and also cryptically talks about strange goals the Hellfire Club wants to achieve. As the London Hellfire Club have their plot revealed to establish a link to a power source beneath London, their Red Queen, Margali Szardos, is tricked into being its link to the surface. The power source was actually a demon, who began driving all of London insane. In the tumult that followed, the Scribe is revealed to be possessed by Mountjoy, and h e made an attempt to possess Brian, but was unable to pierce his force field, even with the help of Ms. Steed. After the demon was again contained, most of the Inner Circle of the London Hellfire Club was thrown in jail, and Brian Braddock apparently resigned from his role as its Black Bishop.
Since he departed…
Subsequently, Excalibur battled the Mutant Liberation Front when they attacked Muir Island. Brian renewed his proposal to Meggan, seconds before he was kidnapped by the Dragons of the Crimson Dawn, who planned to use his energies to open a rift between the Earth and their realm; instead, with the aid of Meggan, he absorbed the power of the rift, closing it, but at the cost of his own powers. No longer Captain Britain, Brian took a sabbatical from Excalibur to figure out what he wanted to do with his life now. He returned a few months later, confidant in one thing; that he loved Meggan. Soon after they were married on Otherworld by Roma. Brian returned to scientific research, working out of Darkmoor, until the arrival of Captain U.K., pursued by armored warriors. Together with Meggan, Psylocke and the Black Knight, Brian accompanied Captain U.K. to Otherworld, where they rescued Roma from Mastermind and an army of Warpies. During this adventure Brian encountered a hologram of his father which alleged his parents had deliberately had Mastermind kill them, and then renewed Brian’s powers. He took up the Sword of Might, returned the Warpies to human form, and ascended the throne of Otherworld. Some time later, he collected his sister’s body after she was slain by Vargas. Learning of Morgan le Fay’s latest plot against England, to reverse his mystical connection to the Matrix by attacking him in Otherworld with god-killer weapons, so that injury to him would cause destruction in Britain, he passed his mantle on to a new 616 Captain Britain, Kelsey Leigh, before Morgan could take him captive; without his connection, Morgan could not use him against his home, and Kelsey proved her worth by defeating Morgan.
A recent reality storm saw Brian and Meggan return to Earth-616, to try and avert disaster before Roma was forced to destroy the entire reality; there Brian was briefly transformed into the King of Britain in an altered timeline. Meggan apparently sacrificed herself to seal the rift between dimensions, preventing the damage from spreading, and after the original timeline was restored, Brian remained on 616 on the instructions of Roma and formed a new incarnation of Excalibur, that would eventually return to Otherworld and join the Exiles to try and protect Roma in battle from an onslaught of the forces of Mad Jim Jaspers, the Fury, and Merlyn.
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What are your thoughts on Captain Britain’s time as a member of the Hellfire Club? Would you mind seeing Brian exploit his membership again in the future?
darknessatnoon
05-02-2008, 11:59 AM
I was correcting darknessatnoon's statement about Magneto, Magik & the Hellfire Club; it's all untrue.
I am always thrilled to be corrected by you DDM.
Dizzy D
05-02-2008, 12:00 PM
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Again two mini-dudes, but it's mostly because I made Ellis' Captain Britain nearly 2 years ago. Black Bishop Brian (aliteration for the win) is recent though.
Brian in the Hellfire Club: he doesn't want to be there and they certainly don't want him there. But with Sunspot's plans to turn the Hellfire Club into a force for good, he may work Brian's conscience to take responsibility for the London chapter. And with a reference to Brian's recent stint as monarch of Otherworld, he can make it to Black King of the London chapter. (And he would have a Black Knight at his side). It would also be an interesting comparison with Courtney/Sat-Yr-9 as White Queen (though God knows what that woman is thinking trying to manipulate Brian again. She's lucky to still have a head on her shoulders. Brian never exactly was patient and willing to give villains a chance to explain.)
Dagger
05-02-2008, 09:19 PM
Is there going to be enough days for there to cover all the Hellfire Club members? I hope my precious Jetstream, Roulette and Firestar is shown
Is there going to be enough days for there to cover all the Hellfire Club members? I hope my precious Jetstream, Roulette and Firestar is shown
The Hellions were never official members of the Inner Circle. The White Queen was preparing her mutant students to eventually become ranking leaders of the Inner Circle when they reached adulthood & mastery over their mutant powers.
pryde15
05-03-2008, 09:52 AM
Is there going to be enough days for there to cover all the Hellfire Club members? I hope my precious Jetstream, Roulette and Firestar is shown
WBE isn't doing the Hellions, I asked him when he was planning it.
worstblogever
05-03-2008, 11:21 AM
Our eighth profile overall, and first here on May 3rd is...
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Elisabeth “Betsy” Braddock, Psylocke –
Hellfire Club Member by Birthright
First Appearance: Captain Britain (1st series) #8
Last Appearance: New Exiles #4
All Hellfire Club appearances: X-Treme X-Men #3 (in flashback), X-Men (2nd series) #29, X-Men (vol. 2) #73
Powers: Her telekinesis allows her to manipulate matter through directed psionic energy, focus her mental energies into a psionic katana. She previously had telepathic powers. She could also travel through shadows for while. Betsy is also immune to telepathy.
Her early years around the club: Elisabeth Braddock used to love to go to the London Hellfire Club as a child with her father. Later on, as a member of S.T.R.I.K.E., the British equivalent of S.H.I.E.L.D., she tried to infiltrate the master house of the Hellfire Club as a member of S.T.R.I.K.E.’s psi-ops division, but was thwarted and warned away by Tessa, Sebastian Shaw's assistant. (X-treme X-Men #3)
Life goes On: Betsy continued to work as a model, and spy until the crimelord Vixen would infiltrate S.T.R.I.K.E. and send her agent, Slaymaster, to kill all of the operatives in the Psi-ops division to avoid having them thwart her plans. Betsy resisted this assassination attempt, and continued in her role. She also foiled the attempt of Kaptain Briton, a version of her brother from another reality, to replace 616’s Captain Britain after avoiding being raped by him, then reading his mind, and using her restored telepathy to kill him (Captain Britain (vol. 2) #5-7). She would, for a time, be trained to be Captain Britain II during one of Brian’s absences by Linda McQuillan after this, only to be led into a trap on a mission by Slaymaster and Vixen. They nearly beat her to death, and stabbed out her eyes to blind her. (Captain Britain (vol. 2) #13)While Betsy could use her telepathy to still “see”, she was at a resort in Switzerland when she was kidnapped by Mojo and Spiral who took her to the Body Shop and gave her bionic eyes, and tried to put her on one of Mojo’s shows called “Wildways”.
Eventually, the New Mutants would rescue Psylocke (as she was now being called), and bring her back to the mansion to learn how to cope with her new eyes, and her powers (Uncanny X-Men Annual #10). During the Mutant Massacre, Betsy’s instincts in escaping Sabretooth, and her telepathy (to both ease the pain of dying Morlocks, and help read Sabretooth’s mind to learn he was working for Mr. Sinister) proved so useful to the X-Men they allowed her to join the team from that point. (Uncanny X-Men #213). She would eventually be exposed to the Siege Perilous, and once out of it, again ended up in Spiral’s body shop, having her body and soul intermingled with the assassin Kwannon, emerging in her body, and with much of her combat prowess. (Uncanny X-Men #250, #255). She was brainwashed into working for the Hand, until Wolverine and Jubilee helped her become fully aware of what had been done to her.
Kwannon would eventually return to the X-Men, claiming that she was, in fact, the one true Betsy Braddock. (X-Men vol. 2) #20. After Professor X’s mind probes, and Wolverine’s senses could not indentify the real Betsy Braddock, it would ironically be the fact that Kwannon, now calling herself Revanche, would gain the Legacy Virus, and with it a flux in powers to learn that Psylocke, was in fact the genuine article.
Betsy, however, would soon find a love interest in Warren Worthington III, finding they had much in common. Including… a family history with the Hellfire Club.
Return to the Hellfire Club:
In X-Men (vol. 2) #29, Warren Worthington III receives an invitation from the Hellfire Club. Psylocke mentions that her family holds membership in the Club's London branch. The pair attend the party and are welcomed by Tessa. She leads them to Shinobi Shaw, who intends to re-establish the Inner Circle. Archangel is offered the title of White King. As they refuse a short fight starts; afterwards Betsy and Warren leave. However, when Sebastian Shaw returned to power, Psylocke did attend a Hellfire Club party with Warren in Rio (X-Men (vol. 2) #73).
And back to life as normal, or what passes for it:
Betsy would soon thereafter be critcally wounded by Sabretooth during an escape, as he was being kept at the mansion in an attempt to rehabilitate him. Archangel, Wolverine, Dr. Strange, and Gomurr the Ancient went into the realm of the Crimson Dawn to find a means to save Betsy’s life. (Uncanny X-Men #328-330). This would, however, attract the attention of the entity behind the Crimson Dawn, Kuragari. In the end, Archangel would give up a part of his life essence to free Betsy of the Crimson Dawn’s influence.
Betsy would then battle the Shadow King, and in order to keep his presence contained within her mind, so it could not harm anyone else, she had to cease to use her telepathy. In an experimental attempt to assist her, Jean Grey would accidentally give Psylocke all her telekinetic ability, and instead take all of Betsy’s telepathic power. (X-Men (vol. 2) #96). Around this time, Psylocke would become estranged from Warren Worthington, and be drawn to Thunderbird III, before joining the X-Treme X-Men team with him. On one of the team’s first missions, Pyslocke was killed by Vargas (X-Treme X-Men #2). A year later, she would be resurrected upon the spot of her death, thanks to the manipulations of her brother, Jamie Braddock. She briefly joined the X-Men, and would end up with them in a second battle with the Shadow King (or “a” Shadow King, anyway) that would see her displaced from the 616 Universe, and end up as a member of the reality-hopping Exiles. (Exiles #90). She has stayed a member of this team since, battling alongside them for the fate of the Multiverse and Roma alongside New Excalibur, and now as she begins dancing between realities with the team consisting of herself, Sage, and alternate reality versions of Rogue, Sabretooth, Kitty Pryde, Mystique, and Morph.
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What do you think of Psylocke? Would you like it if she got away from the Exiles, and back into the 616 to join Sunspot’s Hellfire Club?
Dagger
05-03-2008, 01:42 PM
The Hellions were never official members of the Inner Circle. The White Queen was preparing her mutant students to eventually become ranking leaders of the Inner Circle when they reached adulthood & mastery over their mutant powers.
No crap, but since they were affiliated with the Hellfire Club, I was wondering(hoping) they would be spotlighted in this thread as well.
WBE isn't doing the Hellions, I asked him when he was planning it.
Well, then I'll have to do something about that. Humph:tongue:
Bingo!
05-03-2008, 02:01 PM
Once Psylocke breaks away from Claremont, I would love to see her reclaim her cool by joining the Hellfire Club. The X-Men changed significantly, and eventually disbanded, while she was gone. It might make since that she decides to restart with the HC, especially since she has birthright membership. She would make a very fascinating Black Queen.
Dagger
05-03-2008, 02:15 PM
I'd love to see Betsy take ties with the Hellfire Club. And it would actually give her a reason to dress like a skanky slut!!!
No crap, but since they were affiliated with the Hellfire Club, I was wondering(hoping) they would be spotlighted in this thread as well.
The Hellions were Emma Frost's proteges, but never official members of the Hellfire Club in the first place; the only reason they had access to the Hellfire Club is through their mentor & teacher, Emma Frost, the White Queen. It still does not make the Hellions members of the Lords Cardinal.
worstblogever
05-03-2008, 04:07 PM
The Hellions were Emma Frost's proteges, but never official members of the Hellfire Club in the first place; the only reason they had access to the Hellfire Club is through their mentor & teacher, Emma Frost, the White Queen. It still does not make the Hellions members of the Lords Cardinal.
I gotta go with DDM's logic on this one...I was thinking of including the Hellions, but by the same logic, I could say that the New Mutants are just as much members, since the White King, and their teacher, Magneto, took them there for a few parties. The Hellions' and Firestar's involvement is about the same extent.
Dagger, it's not that I don't love the Hellions... there were just so many spots I have. That, and I believe there already was a Hellions love thread about a year ago, where each member got a profile anyway. They will certainly get a mention during Emma Frost's profile, however.
Pach!
05-03-2008, 04:08 PM
WBE, not that I want you to work more..I'm fine with the Hellions not being focused but it's not like Axe was a lord Cardinal.
worstblogever
05-03-2008, 04:15 PM
WBE, not that I want you to work more..I'm fine with the Hellions not being focused but it's not like Axe was a lord Cardinal.
I used the inner Circle, members, and mercenaries hired by them. Other than the occasional dances that the Hellions attended, Emma Frost kept them out of the HC proper. Firestar, she had planned as a potential assassin for Selene, but that never went forward.
I mean, as we get further along in the month, I even profiled the guards who have been mentioned by name, and a servant or two. (I feel bad that I ran out of days before I could include Elle, Selene's hot maid who appeared in like 5 issues of X-Man). Those kids were never members, they were students who were probably going to be exploited as the HC's own special guard, and who one day might be members, or might make it as far as the Inner Circle. I can't give them the nod based off of what ifs.
But the Hellions ARE, in fact, awesome. After Hellfire Month, I'm gonna do a search and resurrect the Hellions Week thread or whatever it was...
I gotta go with DDM's logic on this one...I was thinking of including the Hellions, but by the same logic, I could say that the New Mutants are just as much members, since the White King, and their teacher, Magneto, took them there for a few parties. The Hellions' and Firestar's involvement is about the same extent.
Dagger, it's not that I don't love the Hellions... there were just so many spots I have. That, and I believe there already was a Hellions love thread about a year ago, where each member got a profile anyway. The will certainly get a mention during Emma Frost's profile, however.
Firestar was never an official member of the Hellions for the sole purpose of Emma Frost to isolate the young girl from EVERYONE to be more easily to manipulate & mold into an assassin. Emma Frost believed that her encounter with Selene would leave both Selene & Angelica dead. It's also one of the reasons she made Firestar have a paranoia about Charles Xavier, the X-Men & the New Mutants. Of course, Empath's petty vendetta in Uncanny X-Men #193 is the reason Emma Frost's subversion of Firestar backfired seen the Firestar #1-4. Emma Frost got even with Empath in The New Mutants #26; it's one the best scene written to date!
Pach!
05-03-2008, 04:36 PM
Firestar was never an official member of the Hellions for the sole purpose of Emma Frost to isolate the young girl from EVERYONE to be more easily to manipulate & mold into an assassin. Emma Frost believed that her encounter with Selene would leave both Selene & Angelica dead. It's also one of the reasons she made Firestar have a paranoia about Charles Xavier, the X-Men & the New Mutants. Of course, Empath's petty vendetta in Uncanny X-Men #193 is the reason Emma Frost's subversion of Firestar backfired seen the Firestar #1-4.
Which is probably why he said "Hellions' and Firestar's"
Which is probably why he said "Hellions' and Firestar's"
Some people still want to include Firestar as a Hellion, although history proves otherwise.
worstblogever
05-03-2008, 04:43 PM
Some people still want to include Firestar as a Hellion, although history proves otherwise.
Firestar was at Massachusetts Academy, though, but Emma did make her paranoia about how "dangerous" her powers were, so Angelica didn't exactly intermingle with the rest of the student body, no. Emma had her convinced she had the touch of death.
The question isn't "Is Firestar a Hellion?" it's "Why aren't the Hellions considered members of the Hellfire Club in this thread?"
I answered, now I'd like to move on to an actual topic.
If that's alright with you, of course.
worstblogever
05-03-2008, 04:53 PM
Our ninth profile overall, and second here on May 3rd is...
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Edward "Ned" Buckman -
Former White King (Hellfire Club version 0)
First appearance: Classic X-Men #6
Last appearance: Classic X-Men #7
All Hellfire appearances: X-Men: The Hellfire Club #4, Classic X-Men #6-7
Powers: None, baseline human
His life prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown, presumably born into wealth.
During his time with The Hellfire Club: Ned Buckman, on behalf of the Hellfire Club, is funding Stephen Lang's Sentinels through their private council. While Sebastian Shaw, as a probationary member, is involved as well, he does not know the robots’ true purpose in wiping out mutantkind. Buckman knows, but claims to Shaw that their task is simply to capture and test the X-Men because they want to isolate the mutant gene for study. During one of the club's holiday parties Shaw and Buckman introduce their corresponding Queens, the White Queen's name is Paris Seville. Shaw's Black Queen is Lourdes Chantel, a mutant teleporter. Both Lourdes, and Shaw’s assistant, Tessa sensed some betrayal in Buckman and tried to make him wary of Buckman. A Sentinel attacks Shaw's beach house away from the main gathering, where Emma and Harry Leland are waiting, exactly as Buckman planned. Since Shaw had completed funding for the project, the Club no longer needed him. Lourdes reluctantly teleported the three of them to the beach house after hearing Emma Frost’s telepathic call and was killed by the Sentinel. The remainder of the mutant members of the Hellfire Club would defeat the Sentinel and return to the party that night where Emma Frost would telepathically take control of Buckman, force him to gun down the assembled council of the chosen, before turning the gun on himself.
What are your thoughts on Ned Buckman as a member of the Hellfire Club? Do you think it was racial prejudice that made him hate mutants, or was he trying to help bring about the creation of the Sentinels to stop Sebastian Shaw from his eventual rise to usurp his own position as head of the Hellfire Club's Council of the Chosen?
Dagger
05-03-2008, 06:51 PM
I gotta go with DDM's logic on this one...I was thinking of including the Hellions, but by the same logic, I could say that the New Mutants are just as much members, since the White King, and their teacher, Magneto, took them there for a few parties. The Hellions' and Firestar's involvement is about the same extent.
Dagger, it's not that I don't love the Hellions... there were just so many spots I have. That, and I believe there already was a Hellions love thread about a year ago, where each member got a profile anyway. They will certainly get a mention during Emma Frost's profile, however.
I understand, even though I don't agree. I mean, these characters made a much bigger impact than characters like Axe, Blackheart as the Black King, James Braddock Sr. and even Ned Buckman. But it's your thread, I just wanted to add my opinion in on who was to be included in the thread.
I'm not sure of a Hellions love thread, but I'll definately search for it, and if not one, I may create one for the sole purpose of focusing on the Hellions, including Firestar since she was included in the Uncanny 193 story, and her mini where she did attend the school, and even had a Hellions uniform in it.
david r
05-03-2008, 06:53 PM
I'm not sure if this has been asked, but Worstblogever, are you going to even include Magneto and Storm? Because they did join at one point.
worstblogever
05-03-2008, 06:54 PM
I understand, even though I don't agree. I mean, these characters made a much bigger impact than characters like Axe, Blackheart as the Black King, James Braddock Sr. and even Ned Buckman. But it's your thread, I just wanted to add my opinion in on who was to be included in the thread.
I'm not sure of a Hellions love thread, but I'll definately search for it, and if not one, I may create one for the sole purpose of focusing on the Hellions, including Firestar since she was included in the Uncanny 193 story, and her mini where she did attend the school, and even had a Hellions uniform in it.
I'll simultaneiously see if I can't do a Hellions member everyday or two in their original thread. I have HC Month planned ahead and already written... give me some time to assemble a Hellions feature. I aim to please. Here's the link:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=53202
worstblogever
05-03-2008, 06:54 PM
Now that the Hellions issue is dealt with... did anyone have anymore thoughts on Psylocke or Ned Buckman?
david r
05-03-2008, 06:58 PM
I aim to please.
Do you mean it? :tongue:
Bingo!
05-03-2008, 06:59 PM
Now that the Hellions issue is dealt with... did anyone have anymore thoughts on Psylocke or Ned Buckman?
I ain't got anything on Ned, but Psylocke is definitely a great candidate for the Hellfire Club. My only question would be if she returns for good or evil. She could def hold the mantle of Black Queen if she becomes a bit more sadistic.
Dagger
05-03-2008, 07:04 PM
Now that the Hellions issue is dealt with... did anyone have anymore thoughts on Psylocke or Ned Buckman?
I'm just sick of Claremont's piss poor handling of Psylocke, that I really can't be brought to have any feelings left towards Betsy as a character. She seemed so mysterious, and kinda creepy at the same time when she first joined the x-men, but now??? She's almost a parody of herself, its' kinda sad. I hope Carey gets ahold of her and has her join the Hellfire Club at some time, and give her her edge back.
DeniseXfrost
05-04-2008, 03:15 AM
What are your thoughts on Ned Buckman as a member of the Hellfire Club? Do you think it was racial prejudice that made him hate mutants, or was he trying to help bring about the creation of the Sentinels to stop Sebastian Shaw from his eventual rise to usurp his own position as head of the Hellfire Club's Council of the Chosen?
Honest word? he was a pawn!
worstblogever
05-04-2008, 03:17 AM
Honest word? he was a pawn!
Emma certainly did pwn him and his cronies when she went after the Council of the Chosen.
worstblogever
05-04-2008, 03:20 AM
Our first entry on May 4th, and tenth overall might throw some people off, since the character has only existed since Wednesday... they might not have heard of...
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/MsCabot.jpg
Ms. Cabot – Hellfire Club Member
First appearance: X-Men: Legacy #210.Last appearance: X-Men: Legacy #210.
All Hellfire Club appearances: X-Men: Legacy #210.
Powers: Unknown. May be human, may be a mutant.
Her life before the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
Her life with the Hellfire Club: Ms. Cabot just recently appeared in X-Men: Legacy #210, and was talking with Sunspot, the Hellfire Club’s Lord Imperial about virtue when she was interrupted by an underling who was looking to report to Sebastian Shaw.
What do you think of Ms. Cabot? Is her beehive hairdo totally awesome or what? Do you think she has designs on Roberto DaCosta? Do you think we’ll ever see her again?
DeniseXfrost
05-04-2008, 05:06 AM
Her behive is just simply awesome, in my humble opinion.
david r
05-04-2008, 08:33 AM
The date, 1763, is when Sir Francis Dashwood of London founded a gentlemen's club devoted to debauchery, black magic, orgiastic parties, and political intrigue. Its membership included some of the most powerful men of the 18th-century England: the Prime Minister, the Lord Mayor of London, bankers, admirals, poets, the Archbishop of Canterbury's son , and Benjamin Franklin. Author Daniel P. Mannix, recounts the history of this British branch of the club in his excellent 1959 book, The Hellfire Club.
Several key Hellfire Club members emigrated to colonial America and started a new American Hellfire Club, independent of and unaffiliated with the British original. They occupied an abandoned church on the present site. The current building was constructed in 1906.
How much of this is true? And how much of this history has been made up in the comics?
The interior decor is 18th-century Colonial, matching the senior member's eccentric predilection for dressing in 18th-century garb during meetings. Walnut paneling, chandeliers, and candelabras of cut glass, gaslight globes in wall sconces-all project an air of obvious elegance, not at all understated.
I always have liked the 18th century Colonial decor, as depicted in X-MEN. It gave stories like Dark Phoenix a certain specific, detailed look which few superhero comics ever bother to express. It creates the image of power, but also a certain conservative stance in garb and attitude which gave the Hellfire Club's its distinct, unique personality apart from other villain groups. And let's face it, the Inner Cirlce is just a super-villain group. Just within the trappings of power and privilege.
worstblogever
05-04-2008, 08:37 AM
How much of this is true? And how much of this history has been made up in the comics?
Well... compare if you'd like...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellfire_Club
Because that isn't about the comics...
david r
05-04-2008, 08:41 AM
A hallway surrounds the ballroom on both floors of the building. On the upper floors, it opens onto a sturdy wooden balcony overlooking the ballroom. Along the outer sides of the hallways on both floors, public restrooms and private chambers are arranged.Public room are on the ground floor. These include a large smoking room, an extensive library (with a large selection of books that earlier centuries deemed "indecent"), and a dining room that seats 64. Next to the dining room is a large and well equipped kitchen.
Wow, this is really detailed. Almost makes you wonder if Worstblogever has actually been....to the Hellfire Club?! :biggrin:
worstblogever
05-04-2008, 08:42 AM
Wow, this is really detailed. Almost makes you wonder if Worstblogever has actually been....to the Hellfire Club?! :biggrin:
Nope, just your mom's house.
I keed! I keed! :biggrin:
darknessatnoon
05-04-2008, 08:43 AM
The insidery way people kept discussing Ms. Cabot in other threads led me to believe she had appeared before.
So she's all new?
I think I like her. To see someone discussing Virtue in the Hellfire Club is so deranged that it automatically makes me consider her and her madness to be divine.
david r
05-04-2008, 08:43 AM
an extensive library (with a large selection of books that earlier centuries deemed "indecent")
Naturally!!
david r
05-04-2008, 08:49 AM
The mansion has a basement with concrete walls, accessible only from the kitchen on the first floor.
Ah, the basement. That's where all the "world-domination" talk happens.
the Inner Circle's mercenaries.
Are you going to include the mercenaries in your biographies? They often play important roles in the battles with the X-Men.
Mercenaries have no barracks, lockers, or lounge on the premises, but often they hand around the kitchen.
They "hand" around the kitchen? I guess I won't be having any meals there after reading that. And you have to wonder how much money these mercenaries make. Do they get benefits and retirement packages?
worstblogever
05-04-2008, 08:51 AM
Ah, the basement. That's where all the "world-domination" talk happens.
Are you going to include the mercenaries in your biographies? They often play important roles in the battles with the X-Men.
They "hand" around the kitchen? I guess I won't be having any meals there after reading that. And you have to wonder how much money these mercenaries make. Do they get benefits and retirement packages?
Any Hellfire Club Mercenary/Soldier/Commando mentioned by name is getting some love. ALL of them. That happens sometime around the 11th, I think.
worstblogever
05-04-2008, 08:53 AM
The insidery way people kept discussing Ms. Cabot in other threads led me to believe she had appeared before.
So she's all new?
I think I like her. To see someone discussing Virtue in the Hellfire Club is so deranged that it automatically makes me consider her and her madness to be divine.
Ms. Cabot has only existed now for like... four days, yeah. She was a last minute addition on Wednesday. :biggrin:
And yeah, the irony of a Hellfire Club member discussing virtue strikes me as odd. Especially with Roberto "I'm in my best friend's girl's Kool-Aid" DaCosta. :wink:
david r
05-04-2008, 08:57 AM
Blackheart later is freed and asked by Selene to retrieve the soul of Julianna, Sunspot’s girlfriend, who died saving him back in Marvel Graphic Novel #4 . She demands Bobby join the Hellfire Club in return for a new chance at life for Julianna. Bobby accepts, and the amnesiac soul is planted into a girl, who just died, by Blackheart
What series does all this happen?
david r
05-04-2008, 09:01 AM
http://toonsntunes.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/blackheart.jpg
Does this somehow make Mephisto or other mystical forces factor into the legacy of the Hellfire Club?
Funny you should ask, because I was just going to question if the Shadow King is going to be included in your summaries? There has been much speculation that the Shadow King is a member of the Hellfire Club. The fact he has the term "King" in his name, like White King, Black King.
His many guises look similiar to Blackheart's appearance up above. And there have been hints the whole Hellfire Club was created by the SK himself. Hence, the word "Hellfire" in their title.
worstblogever
05-04-2008, 10:41 AM
Funny you should ask, because I was just going to question if the Shadow King is going to be included in your summaries? There has been much speculation that the Shadow King is a member of the Hellfire Club. The fact he has the term "King" in his name, like White King, Black King.
His many guises look similiar to Blackheart's appearance up above. And there have been hints the whole Hellfire Club was created by the SK himself. Hence, the word "Hellfire" in their title.
Shadow King is a no... he was rumored to be Elias Bogan around some places on the web that discuss X-Men, but we don't know if that's where CC wanted his story to go.
As far as Blackheart's appearances, I thought I put them in the entry... he had the one appearance in the Fantastic Four Annual 99 as the Black King, and the issues with Sunspot and Juliana's soul were in X-Force (Vol. 1) around issue #96 & 98...
Dagger
05-04-2008, 10:49 AM
The insidery way people kept discussing Ms. Cabot in other threads led me to believe she had appeared before.
So she's all new?
I think I like her. To see someone discussing Virtue in the Hellfire Club is so deranged that it automatically makes me consider her and her madness to be divine.
I must agree with this statement! I loves me some Ms. Cabot! I just hope she's not another White Queen. We need a really vindictive and manipulative character for that place!
worstblogever
05-04-2008, 10:57 AM
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Lourdes Chantel –
Hellfire Club member, fiancee of Sebastian Shaw
First appearance: Classic X-Men #7
All Hellfire Club Appearances: X-Men:Hellfire Club #4, Classic X-Men #6-7
Last appearance: Classic X-Men #7
Powers: Shape an energy matrix out of the atmosphere that can teleport herself and others from place to place.
Before her time with the Hellfire Club: Lourdes met Sebastian Shaw, who would fall in love with her, the first time he’d ever come to know it. Originally, when Shaw was invited to join the Hellfire Club, Lourdes was concerned for his well being. Lourdes feared that Shaw was becoming too power hungry, and it would be the death of him someday. Sebastian would eventually offer a marriage proposal Lourdes and she would accept.
During her time with the Hellfire Club: During one of the club's holiday soirees Chantel is introduced by Shaw to Ned Buckman, the White King, and the White Queen, Paris Seville. Lourdes tries to warn Sebastian she senses betrayal in Buckman, as a Sentinel attacks Shaw's beach house, where Emma and Harry Leland are waiting, exactly as Buckman planned. Lourdes receives a telepathic call for aid from Emma Frost, and reluctantly and bravely teleported herself, Shaw, and Tessa to the beach house to help. The Sentinel is defeated, but not before it kills Lourdes. That night Emma and Shaw kill the rest of the human Lords Cardinal to avenge her, and rise as new Black King and White Queen.
What are your thoughts on Lourdes Chantel? Would she have risen through the ranks of the Hellfire Club at Shaw’s side if she had not died? Would she have been a foe who would be challenged by Emma Frost or Selene?
Jack Flash
05-04-2008, 10:59 AM
No crap, but since they were affiliated with the Hellfire Club, I was wondering(hoping) they would be spotlighted in this thread as well.
Well, then I'll have to do something about that. Humph:tongue:
we're doing Hell Fire lackeys but not the Hellions? Total Fail. We get Axe but not Catseye? Boo, I say Boo.
worstblogever
05-04-2008, 11:19 AM
we're doing Hell Fire lackeys but not the Hellions? Total Fail. We get Axe but not Catseye? Boo, I say Boo.
I resurrected a separate thread, and am researching it for the Hellions to also run this month.
Seriously, everyone needs to drop that subject (as in the Hellions) and get on topic, this is getting ridiculous.
Jack Flash
05-04-2008, 11:24 AM
I resurrected a separate thread, and am researching it for the Hellions to also run this month.
Seriously, everyone needs to drop that subject (as in the Hellions) and get on topic, this is getting ridiculous.
wow, sorry I must have touched a nerve.
Enjoy your thread WBE.
worstblogever
05-04-2008, 11:27 AM
wow, sorry I must have touched a nerve.
Enjoy your thread WBE.
Sorry, Jed. When you work for three weeks, and the main talking point becomes what you didn't work on, it is a bit frustrating.
Dagger
05-04-2008, 12:22 PM
we're doing Hell Fire lackeys but not the Hellions? Total Fail. We get Axe but not Catseye? Boo, I say Boo.
Don't worry Jed! WBE and I are doing the Hellions bio's over in the Hellions respect thread! I'm working on the second one as I type this!
jeannie
05-04-2008, 06:38 PM
Chantal was an interesting character. She would appear to be the most likely mother of Shinobi (his mother is still unconfirmed, right?) but it appears unlikely since there was no mention of them being parents in the old Classic stories.
david r
05-04-2008, 06:42 PM
Elias Bogan -
Rumored Original Lord Imperial of Hellfire Club (1780s founding incarnation)
Now we're talking.
As WBE pointed out in his extensive post, rumors are that Elias Bogan was to be the Shadow King. OR...Chris Claremont wanted to use the Shadow King, but Marvel editors vetoed that. So he created this new figure Elias Bogan, with uncannily similiar powers as the SK. Notice as well the name "Elias" is similiar to the word "Alias". As in "an assumed or additional name". Also note the bizarre use of the name "Bogan". Very similiar to the name "Logan"--one of the X-Men's best known characters. Claremont knowing this, why would he have used these words?
But there is a glitch to the Shadow King's role. They had just recently used the SK in the X-Treme X-Men Annual #1, with the SK attempting to seduce Rogue to the Dark Side. In the end, the X-treme X-Men defeat him/it, and Rogue reduces him to a mere shadow. My point is, Claremont does not have a history of reusing villains so soon after their previous story. The tale that introduces Elias Bogan, "Schism", comes very close to the XXM Annual. Why would Claremont have used the Shadow King again so soon. Unfortunately, Claremont has shown reluctance in answering these questions. Even with his fans at Comix-Fan.
But also consider, Claremont has hinted to the Shadow King possessing far more X-Men characters than previously known. He was first introduced as Amahl Farouk, which is his best known human guise. He captured that FBI agent in Uncanny X-Men #253 at the moment of his heart-attack. Also if you recall the Jim Lee/Claremont issue, #273, we are shown several guises of the SK.....one of them was the indian Naze, who had NEVER before been shown to have anything to do with the Shadow King. Were Lee/Claremont hinting that Naze had somehow been manipulated by the Shadow King? Also, Claremont clearly spelled out in the aforementioned XXM Annual, that Donald Pierce was a pawn of the Shadow King. I had read around 2001 in the magazine Comics International that the X-Treme X-Men Annual was to show us strong hints of what Claremont had planned for the conclusion of his classic 17-year run. Leading up UXM #300 and his war with the Shadow King. Thus, if that statement was fact, Donald Pierce was controlled by the Shadow King. Since forming the Reavers and possibly since his debut during the Dark Phoenix Saga.
My point is, if the Shadow King had control of so many pawns and players in this X-Men world, why not Elias Bogan as well. Could Bogan be the SK in a weakened state? However, the SK never had the power to cause these "Blood Tears" like Bogan.
david r
05-04-2008, 06:59 PM
The rumor is that he was the inspiration for the original founding chapter of the Hellfire Club in the 1780s. (Rumors among readers are that he may have been intended to have been revealed to have been the original Shadow King, due to their identical power sets and that Amahl Farouk was simply another mutant whom Bogan possessed. That never came to fruition, though.)
So much never came to fruition. I have heard even before Bogan ever existed, that there were plans afoot to introduce the Shadow King as the founder of the original Hellfire Club. Then this idea came in 2001-2002 of Elias Bogan as the founder, and you can connect the dots. There is also a reasonable argument that the Shadow King is not human at all, as we've NEVER SEEN his true appearance. Not really, and he has alluded at times to not really being human.
I especially like the poker game between Oliver Ryland (Bogan's pawn) and Sebastian Shaw. I love that smug look of arrogant victory on Shaw's face when he wins that poker match. It was very well-drawn, I don't recall the artist. Did Sebastian know the stakes were so high? Did he know who he REALLY was playing against? We can't tell, but Shaw definitely likes to play with fire.
darknessatnoon
05-04-2008, 07:26 PM
That night Emma and Shaw kill the rest of the human Lords Cardinal to avenge her, and rise as new Black King and White Queen.
It is interesting to me how compatible Emma and Sebastian were. I don't recall them ever seeming to have had the same work-place difficulties that plagued, for example, Shaw and Selene or Selene and Emma.
Leirus
05-04-2008, 08:13 PM
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/LourdesChantel.jpg
Lourdes Chantel –
Hellfire Club member, fiancee of Sebastian Shaw
First appearance: Classic X-Men #7
All Hellfire Club Appearances: X-Men:Hellfire Club #4, Classic X-Men #6-7
Last appearance: Classic X-Men #7
Powers: Shape an energy matrix out of the atmosphere that can teleport herself and others from place to place.
Before her time with the Hellfire Club: Lourdes met Sebastian Shaw, who would fall in love with her, the first time he’d ever come to know it. Originally, when Shaw was invited to join the Hellfire Club, Lourdes was concerned for his well being. Lourdes feared that Shaw was becoming too power hungry, and it would be the death of him someday. Sebastian would eventually offer a marriage proposal Lourdes and she would accept.
During her time with the Hellfire Club: During one of the club's holiday soirees Chantel is introduced by Shaw to Ned Buckman, the White King, and the White Queen, Paris Seville. Lourdes tries to warn Sebastian she senses betrayal in Buckman, as a Sentinel attacks Shaw's beach house, where Emma and Harry Leland are waiting, exactly as Buckman planned. Lourdes receives a telepathic call for aid from Emma Frost, and reluctantly and bravely teleported herself, Shaw, and Tessa to the beach house to help. The Sentinel is defeated, but not before it kills Lourdes. That night Emma and Shaw kill the rest of the human Lords Cardinal to avenge her, and rise as new Black King and White Queen.
What are your thoughts on Lourdes Chantel? Would she have risen through the ranks of the Hellfire Club at Shaw’s side if she had not died? Would she have been a foe who would be challenged by Emma Frost or Selene?
Chan-cha-chan ! A little something more... Lourdes was from Barcelona, Spain, as we learn from her last words (and her spanish hightlady dress, shall I add)... You can choose your Lourdes between the women below :smile:
http://www.elpais.com/recorte/20070406elpepiage_3/LCO340/Ies/Mujeres_mantilla.jpg
It would be strange to witness how Shawn would have turned out with her with him... because in the Hellfire mini, she seems wary about his excess of ambition and greed
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 02:59 AM
Chan-cha-chan ! A little something more... Lourdes was from Barcelona, Spain, as we learn from her last words (and her spanish hightlady dress, shall I add)... You can choose your Lourdes between the women below :smile:
http://www.elpais.com/recorte/20070406elpepiage_3/LCO340/Ies/Mujeres_mantilla.jpg
It would be strange to witness how Shawn would have turned out with her with him... because in the Hellfire mini, she seems wary about his excess of ambition and greed
She could have easily been Shaw's conscience, yeah. When she died Shaw embraced the darker nature of the club's legacy. There have been a lot of people that could be considered unscrupulous in the history of it... and prior to this event, Shaw really wasn't a bad person. But he went for vengeance, and from there, became obsessed with maintaining power and control. Shaw's really a tragic villain, when you look at it from that perspective.
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 03:00 AM
So much never came to fruition. I have heard even before Bogan ever existed, that there were plans afoot to introduce the Shadow King as the founder of the original Hellfire Club. Then this idea came in 2001-2002 of Elias Bogan as the founder, and you can connect the dots. There is also a reasonable argument that the Shadow King is not human at all, as we've NEVER SEEN his true appearance. Not really, and he has alluded at times to not really being human.
I especially like the poker game between Oliver Ryland (Bogan's pawn) and Sebastian Shaw. I love that smug look of arrogant victory on Shaw's face when he wins that poker match. It was very well-drawn, I don't recall the artist. Did Sebastian know the stakes were so high? Did he know who he REALLY was playing against? We can't tell, but Shaw definitely likes to play with fire.
I believe that artist was Larroca.
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 03:24 AM
Our twelfth entry overall for Hellfire Club Month, and our first here on Cinco de Mayo (get your tequila everybody) is...
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/ClearCut.jpg
Clearcut-
Hired Mercenary of Shinobi Shaw’s Hellfire Club II
First Appearance: X-Force (vol. 1) #62
Last Appearance: X-Force (vol. 1) #62.
Hellfire Club Appearances: X-Force (vol. 1) #62.
Powers and Abilities: Ability to Materialize Blades in his Hands, not mutant in origin.
His Time With the Hellfire Club: Saying Clearcut is a member of the Hellfire Club is a bit of an exaggeration. The super-powered swordsman Clear-Cut was hired by Shinobi Shaw alongside Mindmeld as his personal assassin during Shinobi’s brief reign as Black King of the Hellfire Club. However, Clearcut quickly betrayed Shinobi, and aided X-Force in their battle against Shinobi while the team was trying to recover the kidnapped brother and sister of Karma. Clearcut simply stated he provided his assistance to repay a debt to Cable. It is unknown what the extent of his relationship with Cable is or what the "debt" was. His powers enabled him to create blades in his hands at will. He claims to not be a mutant, Dr. Graves' machine seemed to confirm this. While he does not have the X-gene, the source of his powers was never explained.
What did you think of Clearcut’s role with the Hellfire Club? What was the nature of the “debt” he owed Cable, in your opinion, that he would betray the Club? What is the true nature of his ability to manufacture blades? Why does he look like a reject from a Dragonball Z episode?
Leirus
05-05-2008, 04:34 AM
She could have easily been Shaw's conscience, yeah. When she died Shaw embraced the darker nature of the club's legacy. There have been a lot of people that could be considered unscrupulous in the history of it... and prior to this event, Shaw really wasn't a bad person. But he went for vengeance, and from there, became obsessed with maintaining power and control. Shaw's really a tragic villain, when you look at it from that perspective.
Yep, I do not know who wrote the Hellfire Club mini, but it really threw a new light above Shawn... also retconned Lady Grey into existence... Are you going to use those characters or that would be too much? I mean, Jacob, Esau and Elizabeth Shawn, and Lady Grey etc...
About Clean cut... I sorta liked him a little bit... but I also found hilarious this excahnge...
"Er, If you are not a mutant, where do you hide your blades?"
"Do you really wanna know?"
"Er... guess not"
Ok, it was not exactly like that, but...
Feliz 5 de Mayo...
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 04:38 AM
Yep, I do not know who wrote the Hellfire Club mini, but it really threw a new light above Shawn... also retconned Lady Grey into existence... Are you going to use those characters or that would be too much? I mean, Jacob, Esau and Elizabeth Shawn, and Lady Grey etc...
About Clean cut... I sorta liked him a little bit... but I also found hilarious this excahnge...
"Er, If you are not a mutant, where do you hide your blades?"
"Do you really wanna know?"
"Er... guess not"
Ok, it was not exactly like that, but...
Feliz 5 de Mayo...
All of Shaw's ancestors are a no for HC month. Only people who were alive and members at the start of X-Men continuity are getting a mention, meaning anyone who was in X-Men: Hellfire Club #4. There is one other exception to this rule... I'll only give a hint... she's also in Captain Britain and MI:13, and I look forward to The Sword Is Drawn's input about her. :wink:
It is interesting to me how compatible Emma and Sebastian were. I don't recall them ever seeming to have had the same work-place difficulties that plagued, for example, Shaw and Selene or Selene and Emma.
Sebastian Shaw & Emma Frost worked for the same goal within the Hellfire Club in simply bringing mutants to power; their goals are the same. However, Selene has her own ambitions that run counter to Emma Frost & Sebastian Shaw. This is expected when there are two Queens in power. Usually, there are only one Queen & one King at a time. Given Selene quickly rose to the rank of Black Queen & wanted Shaw's place as leader of the Inner Circle, Shaw's fears of being removed are justified. In a sense, Selene is the female version of Sebastian Shaw except she's a literal predator to him. Selene could also bide her time given she's virtually immortal & wait to claim the Hellfire Club for herself; Emma Frost & Sebastian Shaw would die of old age while she remained young. Selene then could take over the Lords Cardinal for her own agendas.
There was even trouble when Mastermind seduced Phoenix into the Hellfire Club's Black Queen; Mastermind believed himself to have no rivals since he could use Phoenix's powers against any Hellfire Club rival. The problem with this is Phoenix broke her hold from Mastermind & put him in a catatonic state then the Hellfire Club rejected his membership into the Inner Circle since he failed his task.
Sebastian Shaw & Emma Frost succeeded in the sense the Inner Circle largely remained control with mutants, but some mutants--such as Mastermind & Selene--have their own agendas that run counter to Shaw & Frost.
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Lourdes Chantel –
Hellfire Club member, fiancee of Sebastian Shaw
First appearance: Classic X-Men #7
All Hellfire Club Appearances: X-Men:Hellfire Club #4, Classic X-Men #6-7
Last appearance: Classic X-Men #7
Powers: Shape an energy matrix out of the atmosphere that can teleport herself and others from place to place.
Before her time with the Hellfire Club: Lourdes met Sebastian Shaw, who would fall in love with her, the first time he’d ever come to know it. Originally, when Shaw was invited to join the Hellfire Club, Lourdes was concerned for his well being. Lourdes feared that Shaw was becoming too power hungry, and it would be the death of him someday. Sebastian would eventually offer a marriage proposal Lourdes and she would accept.
During her time with the Hellfire Club: During one of the club's holiday soirees Chantel is introduced by Shaw to Ned Buckman, the White King, and the White Queen, Paris Seville. Lourdes tries to warn Sebastian she senses betrayal in Buckman, as a Sentinel attacks Shaw's beach house, where Emma and Harry Leland are waiting, exactly as Buckman planned. Lourdes receives a telepathic call for aid from Emma Frost, and reluctantly and bravely teleported herself, Shaw, and Tessa to the beach house to help. The Sentinel is defeated, but not before it kills Lourdes. That night Emma and Shaw kill the rest of the human Lords Cardinal to avenge her, and rise as new Black King and White Queen.
What are your thoughts on Lourdes Chantel? Would she have risen through the ranks of the Hellfire Club at Shaw’s side if she had not died? Would she have been a foe who would be challenged by Emma Frost or Selene?
I agree Lourdes Chantel was Sebastian Shaw's conscience, but, with her death, he let his ambition & lust for power overwhelm him; Shaw became corrupted by the very Hellfire that forged his & Emma Frost's rise to power within the Inner Circle. I like the irony that Selene became the Black Queen, a title Lourdes Chantel would have possessed had she lived, who hated both Emma Frost & Sebastian Shaw since she has her own ambitions. Then there's Phoenix's brief role as the decadent Black Queen before she transformed into Dark Phoenix prior to Selene's inclusion into the club...
Now we're talking.
As WBE pointed out in his extensive post, rumors are that Elias Bogan was to be the Shadow King. OR...Chris Claremont wanted to use the Shadow King, but Marvel editors vetoed that. So he created this new figure Elias Bogan, with uncannily similiar powers as the SK. Notice as well the name "Elias" is similiar to the word "Alias". As in "an assumed or additional name". Also note the bizarre use of the name "Bogan". Very similiar to the name "Logan"--one of the X-Men's best known characters. Claremont knowing this, why would he have used these words?
But there is a glitch to the Shadow King's role. They had just recently used the SK in the X-Treme X-Men Annual #1, with the SK attempting to seduce Rogue to the Dark Side. In the end, the X-treme X-Men defeat him/it, and Rogue reduces him to a mere shadow. My point is, Claremont does not have a history of reusing villains so soon after their previous story. The tale that introduces Elias Bogan, "Schism", comes very close to the XXM Annual. Why would Claremont have used the Shadow King again so soon. Unfortunately, Claremont has shown reluctance in answering these questions. Even with his fans at Comix-Fan.
But also consider, Claremont has hinted to the Shadow King possessing far more X-Men characters than previously known. He was first introduced as Amahl Farouk, which is his best known human guise. He captured that FBI agent in Uncanny X-Men #253 at the moment of his heart-attack. Also if you recall the Jim Lee/Claremont issue, #273, we are shown several guises of the SK.....one of them was the indian Naze, who had NEVER before been shown to have anything to do with the Shadow King. Were Lee/Claremont hinting that Naze had somehow been manipulated by the Shadow King? Also, Claremont clearly spelled out in the aforementioned XXM Annual, that Donald Pierce was a pawn of the Shadow King. I had read around 2001 in the magazine Comics International that the X-Treme X-Men Annual was to show us strong hints of what Claremont had planned for the conclusion of his classic 17-year run. Leading up UXM #300 and his war with the Shadow King. Thus, if that statement was fact, Donald Pierce was controlled by the Shadow King. Since forming the Reavers and possibly since his debut during the Dark Phoenix Saga.
My point is, if the Shadow King had control of so many pawns and players in this X-Men world, why not Elias Bogan as well. Could Bogan be the SK in a weakened state? However, the SK never had the power to cause these "Blood Tears" like Bogan.
I believe Elias Bogan is an aspect of the Shadow King after his encounter with Psylocke & Phoenix on the astral plane; as a result, his powers are slightly changed. I like the fact the Hellfire Club could have been founded by the Shadow King, a psychic bogeyman who in every respect is the exact opposite of Charles Xavier. Again, Chris Claremont is using the Hellfire Club as a foil to the X-Men. However, the Shadow King is using the Hellfire Club as pawns for his own motives.
Flâneur
05-05-2008, 09:19 AM
Also note the bizarre use of the name "Bogan". Very similiar to the name "Logan"--one of the X-Men's best known characters. Claremont knowing this, why would he have used these words?
The word 'bogan' also means red-necked white trash.
I honestly don't think it's related to Logan in any way, shape or form anymore than it was CC was intentionally calling his character trash. Just a random, ill-considered name.
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 10:44 AM
Nobody loves Clear-Cut... :frown:
Ah, he looks like a DBZ reject, he deserves no pity. Although, I thought Nyssane was going to give him some D-List love...
Jack Flash
05-05-2008, 11:30 AM
Our twelfth entry overall for Hellfire Club Month, and our first here on Cinco de Mayo (get your tequila everybody) is...
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Clearcut-
Hired Mercenary of Shinobi Shaw’s Hellfire Club II
First Appearance: X-Force (vol. 1) #62
Last Appearance: X-Force (vol. 1) #62.
Hellfire Club Appearances: X-Force (vol. 1) #62.
Powers and Abilities: Ability to Materialize Blades in his Hands, not mutant in origin.
His Time With the Hellfire Club: Saying Clearcut is a member of the Hellfire Club is a bit of an exaggeration. The super-powered swordsman Clear-Cut was hired by Shinobi Shaw alongside Mindmeld as his personal assassin during Shinobi’s brief reign as Black King of the Hellfire Club. However, Clearcut quickly betrayed Shinobi, and aided X-Force in their battle against Shinobi while the team was trying to recover the kidnapped brother and sister of Karma. Clearcut simply stated he provided his assistance to repay a debt to Cable. It is unknown what the extent of his relationship with Cable is or what the "debt" was. His powers enabled him to create blades in his hands at will. He claims to not be a mutant, Dr. Graves' machine seemed to confirm this. While he does not have the X-gene, the source of his powers was never explained.
What did you think of Clearcut’s role with the Hellfire Club? What was the nature of the “debt” he owed Cable, in your opinion, that he would betray the Club? What is the true nature of his ability to manufacture blades? Why does he look like a reject from a Dragonball Z episode?
I really kinda liked Clearcut, but he's a totally 90s character. I remember back in the day writing into Marvel and asking when we were going to hear from him again! *GAY!*
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 11:36 AM
I really kinda liked Clearcut, but he's a totally 90s character. I remember back in the day writing into Marvel and asking when we were going to hear from him again! *GAY!*
You seriously asked when you'd get more Clear-cut? Wow. You really are a D-List lover, Jed.
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 11:42 AM
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Emmanuel DaCosta -
White Rook of Hellfire Club I
(Selene refers to him as a Rook, and Von Roehm was the Black Rook, so by default…)
First appearance: Marvel Graphic Novel #4
All Hellfire appearances: New Mutants (vol. 1) #7-8, 12, 22-23
Last appearance: New Mutants (vol. 1) #98
Powers: none, human
Before his time with the Hellfire Club: Emmanuel Da Costa was a man who had built a financial empire, but began to become estranged from his wife, Nina, and son, Roberto, when he was approached by Sebastian Shaw to join the Hellfire Club. Shaw sent operatives like Axe and Castro to dry and dissuade Nina (New Mutants (vol.1) #7-8), and the New Mutants, from going on an expedition in the Amazon to the Maderia (which was the secret mine his fortune was made upon), and come home to be at Emmanuel’s side like “a good wife should”. All the while, though, Da Costa had begun being enticed by Shaw with the women of the Hellfire Club, and whatever services they might provide him. Eventually, Shaw’s assistance with his wife, son, and the New Mutants is enough to compel him to join. Emmanuel informs Roberto of his decision, and it sparks a fight between the two (New Mutants (vol.1) #12). It’s not hard to understand why, since Donald Pierce and his Hellfire mercenaries tried killing Roberto when he was fourteen, and in the battle that followed, Roberto’s girlfriend, Julia was killed. Regardless, the elder Da Costa went forth into the ranks of the Hellfire Club as White Rook.
During his time in the Hellfire Club: Emmanuel’s initiation rite was the same night as Selene’s first night as the Black Queen (New Mutants (vol. 1) #22). Immediately upon his entry as White Rook, Sebastian Shaw began pressuring him to also have his son join the Hellfire Club’s ranks. Years go by, and Da Costa’s involvement within the Hellfire Club remains a mystery until his death at the hands of Eve, an assassin who serves him poison coffee upon the orders of the External, Gideon (New Mutants (vol. 1) #98).
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What did you think of Emmanuel Da Costa? What business deals did he gain through the Hellfire Club? Did his joining effectively end his marriage, permanently?
Bingo!
05-05-2008, 11:48 AM
I really kinda liked Clearcut, but he's a totally 90s character. I remember back in the day writing into Marvel and asking when we were going to hear from him again! *GAY!*
haha! What exactly about Clearcut did you like?
Jack Flash
05-05-2008, 11:50 AM
You seriously asked when you'd get more Clear-cut? Wow. You really are a D-List lover, Jed.
in my defense, I asked other questions as well. Like when were we going to see Adam X!: The X-Treme again and I may have had a guess towards a No Prize for Cannonball not being an X-Ternal but surviving Sauron's attack. But that may have been a separate letter. Sadly, I've never had a letter published, likely cuz when I was writing them I asked about Adam X and Clear Cut. *GAY!*
Jack Flash
05-05-2008, 11:51 AM
haha! What exactly about Clearcut did you like?
He had swords produced from his hands! and I dug the "Secret history" aspect and that he turned on his villianous master!
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 11:52 AM
He had swords produced from his hands! and I dug the "Secret history" aspect and that he turned on his villianous master!
The favor he did for Cable totally had to have been sexual. Totally.
Bingo!
05-05-2008, 11:54 AM
The favor he did for Cable totally had to have been sexual. Totally.
The original X-Force, just like the Hellfire Club, was all about sexual favors.
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 11:55 AM
The original X-Force, just like the Hellfire Club, was all about sexual favors.
It's how Tabitha kept Sam on the team for so long, after all.
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Emmanuel DaCosta -
White Rook of Hellfire Club I
(Selene refers to him as a Rook, and Von Roehm was the Black Rook, so by default…)
First appearance: Marvel Graphic Novel #4
All Hellfire appearances: New Mutants (vol. 1) #7-8, 12, 22-23
Last appearance: New Mutants (vol. 1) #98
Powers: none, human
Before his time with the Hellfire Club: Emmanuel Da Costa was a man who had built a financial empire, but began to become estranged from his wife, Nina, and son, Roberto, when he was approached by Sebastian Shaw to join the Hellfire Club. Shaw sent operatives like Axe and Castro to dry and dissuade Nina (New Mutants (vol.1) #7-8), and the New Mutants, from going on an expedition in the Amazon to the Maderia (which was the secret mine his fortune was made upon), and come home to be at Emmanuel’s side like “a good wife should”. All the while, though, Da Costa had begun being enticed by Shaw with the women of the Hellfire Club, and whatever services they might provide him. Eventually, Shaw’s assistance with his wife, son, and the New Mutants is enough to compel him to join. Emmanuel informs Roberto of his decision, and it sparks a fight between the two (New Mutants (vol.1) #12). It’s not hard to understand why, since Donald Pierce and his Hellfire mercenaries tried killing Roberto when he was fourteen, and in the battle that followed, Roberto’s girlfriend, Julia was killed. Regardless, the elder Da Costa went forth into the ranks of the Hellfire Club as White Rook.
During his time in the Hellfire Club: Emmanuel’s initiation rite was the same night as Selene’s first night as the Black Queen (New Mutants (vol. 1) #22). Immediately upon his entry as White Rook, Sebastian Shaw began pressuring him to also have his son join the Hellfire Club’s ranks. Years go by, and Da Costa’s involvement within the Hellfire Club remains a mystery until his death at the hands of Eve, an assassin who serves him poison coffee upon the orders of the External, Gideon (New Mutants (vol. 1) #98).
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What did you think of Emmanuel Da Costa? What business deals did he gain through the Hellfire Club? Did his joining effectively end his marriage, permanently?
Since membership of the Hellfire Club is inherited, I believe Sebastian Shaw's true purpose for Emmanuel DaCosta's membership into the Hellfire Club's Inner Circle was more about corrupting his son, Roberto DaCosta in the long term. Roberto would have inherited the membership & would have been welcomed into the Inner Circle given his mutant powers.
Another way into the Hellfire Club is when Magneto & Storm accept joint membership into the Inner Circle was the White King in The New Mutants #51 after the Inner Circle had been attacked by the Marauders via their guards. This is another avenue in which the Hellfire Club had its hooks into Roberto DaCosta & his fellow New Mutants...
Dizzy D
05-05-2008, 01:33 PM
Really, it sucks to be a Rook. You don't get any decent powers (unless you are an established character who just gets slid into one of the few free spots.) and you are on a short list for cannon-fodder.
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 01:35 PM
Since membership of the Hellfire Club is inherited, I believe Sebastian Shaw's true purpose for Emmanuel DaCosta's membership into the Hellfire Club's Inner Circle was more about corrupting his son, Roberto DaCosta in the long term. Roberto would have inherited the membership & would have been welcomed into the Inner Circle given his mutant powers.
Another way into the Hellfire Club is when Magneto & Storm accept joint membership into the Inner Circle was the White King in The New Mutants #51 after the Inner Circle had been attacked by the Marauders via their guards. This is another avenue in which the Hellfire Club had its hooks into Roberto DaCosta & his fellow New Mutants...
Agreed, at least on why DaCosta was in the club. The rest, seems plausible. But anyway, Emmanuel, for a rook, was really just a pawn who Shaw seemed ready to sacrifice to get Roberto into the club's ranks at a later date.
Mind you, Donald Pierce's actions, back in the Marvel Graphic Novel, sure gave Roberto a reason to hate the Hellfire Club. We'll talk more about that tomorrow, though, when we cover (oh wow, I'm going to spoil tomorrow!) Sunspot.
Really, it sucks to be a Rook. You don't get any decent powers (unless you are an established character who just gets slid into one of the few free spots.) and you are on a short list for cannon-fodder.
I believe Sebastian Shaw was a rook before Frost & he lead a coup de'tat shown in Classic X-Men #7; therefore, it's possible to move up in rank once within the club. Emma Frost also had a lower rank, possibly also a rook as a member of the Council of the Chosen.
Dizzy D
05-05-2008, 01:54 PM
I believe Sebastian Shaw was a rook before Frost & he lead a coup de'tat shown in Classic X-Men #7; therefore, it's possible to move up in rank once within the club. Emma Frost also had a lower rank, possibly also a rook as a member of the Council of the Chosen.
He was a Bishop. The rooks were nearly all cannon-fodder.
Come To Deathstrike
05-05-2008, 01:54 PM
It's how Tabitha kept Sam on the team for so long, after all.
You just insulted the honour of two of my favourite characters.
DUEL.
Um.. .. .Hellfire related.. . .Clearcut was totally lame
Swordhand is almost as bad as Gunhand.
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 01:59 PM
You just insulted the honour of two of my favourite characters.
DUEL.
Um.. .. .Hellfire related.. . .Clearcut was totally lame
Swordhand is almost as bad as Gunhand.
How does that insult them? They were shagging for like... over 40 issues of X-Force, plus some of the end of the New Mutants run.
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 02:01 PM
The most successful Rook, in my mind... would have been the Madelyne Pryor that Nate Grey inadvertantly created. She ended up being Black Rook, and was rising so fast in the Hellfire Club's ranks that it even gave Selene (who brought her in) great concern, as well as Tessa and Trevor Fitzroy.
And yes, we'll see Madelyne later in HC month. Doing her life summary was very convoluted, and very involved.
But Emmanuel never really did much in his time. It seemed ironic that another External would kill him as a means of getting to his son, without any Hellfire Club involvement.
Dizzy D
05-05-2008, 02:05 PM
The most successful Rook, in my mind... would have been the Madelyne Pryor that Nate Grey inadvertantly created. She ended up being Black Rook, and was rising so fast in the Hellfire Club's ranks that it even gave Selene (who brought her in) great concern, as well as Tessa and Trevor Fitzroy.
And yes, we'll see Madelyne later in HC month. Doing her life summary was very convoluted, and very involved.
But Emmanuel never really did much in his time. It seemed ironic that another External would kill him as a means of getting to his son, without any Hellfire Club involvement.
The big problem with Maddy would be " what was Maddy and what was Queen Jean", I guess?
Come To Deathstrike
05-05-2008, 02:07 PM
How does that insult them? They were shagging for like... over 40 issues of X-Force, plus some of the end of the New Mutants run.
I prefer to pretend It didn't happen.
I love them both, but not together.
Plus, Guthrie belongs with Iceman now.
Also, will there be many of those random HC members?
They're fun.
=]
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 02:11 PM
The big problem with Maddy would be " what was Maddy and what was Queen Jean", I guess?
What was Maddie...what was Maddie as Goblyn Queen, what was "psionic construct" Maddie, and then what in the blue hell was Queen Jean pretending to be Maddie, and then, which Maddie's soul doing on the Astral Plane, seen by Cable later.
Like I said, Con-vo-luted. :biggrin:
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 02:13 PM
I prefer to pretend It didn't happen.
I love them both, but not together.
Plus, Guthrie belongs with Iceman now.
Also, will there be many of those random HC members?
They're fun.
=]
Random like mercenaries like Clear-Cut and Axe?
Oh yeah. A good amount of them. But there's a lot of people still in here that are fun. I spoiled Sunspot for tomorrow... he's the morning profile. But who's the afternoon? Hmm.... I'll give you a hint... her father was in the Club around World War I.
What was Maddie...what was Maddie as Goblyn Queen, what was "psionic construct" Maddie, and then what in the blue hell was Queen Jean pretending to be Maddie, and then, which Maddie's soul doing on the Astral Plane, seen by Cable later.
Like I said, Con-vo-luted. :biggrin:
Mainstream Universe Maddy was the Goblin Queen, but Mutant X Maddie was the Goblyn Queen.
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 02:55 PM
Mainstream Universe Maddy was the Goblin Queen, but Mutant X Maddie was the Goblyn Queen.
Add that to the convoluted Maddie story, DDM. :wink:
Diablito
05-05-2008, 03:00 PM
Great job with the character bios. I don't have much more to add.
And holy crap, the X-Comics have 452 views! Thats the most I've ever seen!
worstblogever
05-05-2008, 03:06 PM
Great job with the character bios. I don't have much more to add.
And holy crap, the X-Comics have 452 views! Thats the most I've ever seen!
That is a lot. I think there were that many during Messiah CompleX... but...
I doubt it's Hellfire Club Month doing that... right? Seems like it'd be the Land controversy that's brewing.
worstblogever
05-06-2008, 02:00 AM
Our fourteenth Hellfire Club Month Profile overall, and first here on May 6th is...
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Sunspot (Roberto “Bobby” DaCosta) –
Originally Black Rook of the Hellfire Club IV, briefly Black King of the Hellfire Club V, current Lord Imperial of theHellfire Club V
First appearance : Marvel Graphic Novel #4
First Hellfire V appearance : X-Force #94
All Hellfire V appearances : X-Force #94, 96-98, Ucanny X-Men # 453, 454, X-Men: Endangered Species #1, X-Men: Legacy #210.
Last Appearance: X-Men: Legacy #210
Powers : Absorb sunlight and other sources of heat energy, re-channeling them into concentrated solar energy that he can direct as waves of intense heat, dark plasma blasts, and thermal updrafts that allow him to fly. Sunspot originally metabolized solar energy into an energy charge that increase his strength, endurance, and resilience. He later learned how to focus this charge outwards as concussive blasts, energy shields, and thrust for flight. The many changes to his powers he has experienced at the hands of Cable, Reignfire, and the Damocles Foundation make it unclear as to if he can still access physical power enhancement.
Before His Hellfire Club Initiation:
Roberto da Costa was born and raised in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. He is the son of wealthy businessman Emmanuel da Costa and archaeologist Nina da Costa. The relationship between Roberto and his father, for a long time, resembled more closely one of best friends than father and son (the Hellfire Club would put a barrier between them, though). Nonetheless, Emmanuel constantly pushed his son to reach for both his physical and intellectual limits. Thanks to his father's encouragement, Roberto rose to the position of star futbol player at school, and was considered by recruiters for the Brazilian Olympic team. Shortly before what is believed to be his fourteenth birthday (as best can be determined; there are conflicting references) Roberto was playing a soccer game with his team (the Thunderbolts) against their arch-rivals, the Dynamos. Racist members of the Dynamos assaulted Roberto during the game, and in response Roberto took matters into his own hands, initiating a fight on the field. He proceeded to manifest his mutant powers, transforming suddenly into a creature of solid black solar energy. Surprised and terrified, people abandoned the stadium, and only his girlfriend, Juliana Sandoval, refused to abandon him.
Within a matter of days, a mutant-hating faction led by Donald Pierce and employing Hellfire Club mercenaries kidnapped Juliana to lure Roberto into a trap. He engages them, but is eventually defeated. Other young mutants by the name of Karma and Psyche rescue him. In the course of the following battle, against Pierce and his mercenaries, Juliana sacrifices her life for Robert, jumping in front of a bullet for him, and is seemingly lost to him forever (Marvel Graphic Novel #4).
After the rescue, Roberto joins Karma and Psyche in going after Donald Pierce. The three are joined by Wolfsbane, and after the battle by Sam Guthrie, a.k.a Cannonball, one of Pierce's misguided mutant hirelings, despite initial reservations by the others. Professor Charles Xavier offerd to train the five teenagers in controlling their nascent mutant powers, to which they accept and become the founding members to the group known as the New Mutants, a group of junior X-Men. During their time as teammates on the New Mutants, Roberto and Sam Guthrie would become best friends.
During the New Mutants history, the Hellfire Club would actively recruit Roberto's father, Emmanuel as their Black Rook (New Mutants (vol. 1) #7-12), and eventually, Emmanuel would enter the club's Inner Circle (New Mutants (vol. 1) #22). This would alienate the two for the forseeable future.
When Cable took over the New Mutants, he soon turned them into the paramilitary group X-Force, Sunspot parted ways with the team for awhile. During this time Sunspot was tutored by Gideon of the Externals, an old business partner of Roberto's father (who has since been killed by one of Gideon’s operatives) (New Mutants (vol. 1) #98). Suspecting Sunspot to be a fellow External, Gideon takes Sunspot under his wing, and experiments on him, in an attempt to grant him new powers such as flight and the ability to fire blasts of solar energy. For a time Sunspot was lost in the space-time continuum after interfering with the teleportation powers of the mutant Locus. During this time, a villain called Reignfire comes onto the scene, showing a remarkable similar appearance to Sunspot. After some time, X-Force would discover that Reignfire was a protoplasmic cellular construct that patterned itself after Roberto after being given access to a cellular sample from him. In effect, Reignfire was just an evil clone of Bobby.
Eventually X-Force would find themselves a separate entity without Cable, and when they started travelling around the country doing their own brand of moral mercenary work and odd jobs, Roberto would briefly have a tryst with Tabitha Smith, aka Meltdown, who was, at the time, his best friend’s girlfriend. In time, Sunspot and Meltdown would separate, and the brief rift that it created between Sam and Bobby would be mended.
Recruitment and time in the Hellfire Club:
Roberto would be approached by members of the Hellfire Club, who would point out that since his father Emmanuel had a seat in the Club so does he, as the seats are inherited genetically. The incarnation of the Hellfire Club, in question, was led by Selene, and also had Hellstorm and Blackheart as key members of its Inner Circle. Blackheart had recovered the soul of his long lost love, Juliana, and Selene promised Roberto that they would use their magicks to resurrect her if he joins. Sunspot agreed, and Selene kept her part of the bargain, but only to a certain extent. She brought back the spirit of Juliana, but inserts it into the body of a comatose girl. Possibly because he felt obliged to fulfill his promise, Roberto decides to stay, becoming Selene's Black Rook. He would meet “Juliana” later on the street, but the two do not seem to be aware of their identities (X-Force (vol. 1) #98).
After much time passes, Roberto next surfaces in the title X-Treme X-Men as the head of the Los Angelese branch of X-Corporation, along with former teammate Magma, and former Hellion, Empath. Roberto's ties to the Hellfire Club are revealed to have not been severed, as Sebastian Shaw approaches, having taken over the position of Hellfire Club's Lord Imperial and wanting Roberto as his Black King. Shaw claims that he is trying to turn the Club into a force of good, so Roberto accepts, though he keeps his involvement with Shaw a secret.Not long after at all, Shaw is injured in battle by Donald Pierce, and his injuries are severe enough to make him incapable of overseeing the Hellfire Club. Roberto again is given a field promotion, going from Black Rook to Black King to Lord Imperial seemingly overnight (Uncanny X-Men #454). At his side for a time was Sage, who left the X-Men to make sure Roberto is not corrupted by the power he wields. She would not remain long, however, soon joining the New Excalibur team.
After the events of M-Day, Cyclops called for the shutting down of all branches of the X-Corporation to better pool the resources of the X-Men. In Endangered Species, we learn from Sebastian Shaw at a funeral of a dead mutant who got hit by a car, that Roberto’s days might not last long as Lord Imperial. Shaw was thinking of deposing him, and while Professor X got some inkling of these thoughts, Shaw employed a psi-blocker before more details of his schemes could be revealed. He was last seen dismissing Shaw from his sight within the Hellfire Club, to talk further with Ms. Cabot (X-Men: Legacy #210).
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What do you think of Sunspot as a member of the Hellfire Club? Do you think his pact with Selene and Blackheart is somehow infernal? Do you think he will be able to hold onto the title of Lord Imperial of the Hellfire Club for long?
Anodyne
05-06-2008, 09:42 AM
What was Maddie...what was Maddie as Goblyn Queen, what was "psionic construct" Maddie, and then what in the blue hell was Queen Jean pretending to be Maddie, and then, which Maddie's soul doing on the Astral Plane, seen by Cable later.
Like I said, Con-vo-luted. :biggrin:
I choose to believe that "psionic construct" Maddie was the true Madelyne's essence in a new psionic body created by X-Man. She was strong and resilient enough to survive being ousted by Jean Grey three times before Nate provided a new home for her soul.
Maddie left Nate only after Selene warned her that she (Madelyne) would destroy Nate if she stayed with him. In X-Man #30 she reflected that she'd turned to the Hellfire Club for protection from the forces of Zero Tolerance.
Since Marvel vetoed Steven Grant's attempt to retcon Nate's Madelyne into having been Mean Queen Jean all along, I'd say that Maddie retreated to the psionic/astral plane after being overcome by Queen Jean while in an aged, weakened condition. Nate and Maddie kissed before they learned they were related; if there was any incest it was Evil Jean's doing.
Mainstream Universe Maddy was the Goblin Queen, but Mutant X Maddie was the Goblyn Queen.
Are you sure? IIRC both versions were spelled Goblin. Goblyn was a young girl with one of the incarnations of Alpha Flight.
Are you sure? IIRC both versions were spelled Goblin. Goblyn was a young girl with one of the incarnations of Alpha Flight.
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Mainstream Universe Madelyne Pryor is the Goblin Queen.
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Mutant X's Madelyne Pryor made a deal with a demon to turn her into the Goblin Queen (or Goblyn Queen), but this demon energy merges with the Phoenix Force, now called the Goblin Force.
brundlefly
05-06-2008, 09:57 AM
Do you think he will be able to hold onto the title of Lord Imperial of the Hellfire Club for long?
No. Shaw's already got Bobby's funeral plot picked out. :biggrin: Without Sage (who is the reason that he's Lord Imperial to begin with) around to guide Bobby, strategize for him, and warn him of impending threats, he's in way over his head. If Bobby does survive being deposed by Shaw, I wonder if he'll end up on one of the various X-teams or just fade into character limbo instead.
EDIT: Forgot about Bobby reuniting with the other New Mutants soon over in Young X-Men, so I guess his post-HFC destination is already set.
Come To Deathstrike
05-06-2008, 10:09 AM
No. Shaw's already got Bobby's funeral plot picked out. :biggrin: Without Sage (who is the reason that he's Lord Imperial to begin with) around to guide Bobby, strategize for him, and warn him of impending threats, he's in way over his head. If Bobby does survive being deposed by Shaw, I wonder if he'll end up on one of the various X-teams or just fade into character limbo instead.
Without Sage, the Hellfire club has fallen into Disrepute.
Expected. :smile:
worstblogever
05-06-2008, 10:55 AM
Our second profile on May 6th, and fifteenth overall is...
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Lady Jacqueline Falsworth-Chichton, Spitfire –
Member of London Hellfire Club by Birthright
First Appearance: The Invaders (1975) #7First Hellfire Appearance: Technichally none. She is the daughter of Union Jack, however, which grants her the right to be a member of the London Hellfire Club through birthright.
Last Appearance: Captain America (vol. 4) #21.
Powers: As Spitfire, Jacqueline possessed the ability to run at lightning-fast speeds, with reflexes and agility to match. When she ran, a trail of non-damaging fire appeared behind her. Her skin was also hardened to withstand the rigors of such speed, providing a type of body armor.
Her Biography: During World War II, Jacqueline Falsworth bravely served in Britain’s Home Guard. During an air raid attack on London, she had less to fear from the bombing, however, than from the vampire Baron Blood, who attacked her. She was saved by the android Human Torch, who drove the vampire off. Jacqueline invited the Torch and his team, the Invaders, to dinner at the Falsworth Mansion. Her father, Lord Falsworth, then revealed to family and company that there was one other super-hero in their midst — himself! He told of his career during World War I as Union Jack and volunteered the use of his mansion as a base of operations for the Invaders.
(Hellfire ties: Spitfire’s father, Lord Montgomery Falsworth, was invited to join the London Hellfire Club in 1915 by Sir Henry Manners, and accepted the invitation to infiltrate the club, and learn its secrets. By birthright, this also gives Spitfire a claim to the clandestine society.)
This did not bode well for the other resident in the mansion, the Lord’s visiting "nephew" (really his brother), John Falsworth, who was secretly Baron Blood and a Nazi sympathizer. He arranged for the capture of Jacqueline and her father by a Nazi spy operation which the Invaders had been fighting, and he again attacked Jacqueline, biting her. The Invaders saved Jacqueline and her father, uncovering the truth about Baron Blood, but Jacqueline had been drained of too much blood. She was rushed to a hospital and received a blood transfusion from the Human Torch, who had developed quite a crush on the young woman. She soon discovered that the transfusion of the Torch's android blood, plus the foreign enzymes introduced into her bloodstream by Baron Blood's bite, combined to give her super-human speed. When the hospital was invaded by a Nazi agent in battle armor, called the Blue Bullet, who was looking for the Invaders, Jacqueline used her new powers to save the weakened Torch and to help the other Invaders defeat the Blue Bullet.
Jacqueline made herself a costume and called herself Spitfire, after the British fighter plane of the same name. She joined the Invaders, soon helping them recover her brother, Brian Falsworth, from behind enemy lines. The Torch’s feelings went unrequited, as Spitfire had developed her own crush on their teammate Captain America. Spitfire and Union Jack would continue to serve with the Invaders whenever they were in the U.K. Spitfire continued adventuring for some time, as the Invaders became the All-Winners Squad. She also joined her brother and the Destroyer in hunting war criminals. By 1951, they reorganized the V-Battalion with other heroes of the time, becoming the organization’s first ruling Penance Council. She left the V-Battalion after her brother died in a car accident, and retired from adventuring shortly thereafter.
During the 1950’s, Spitfire’s super powers had waned significantly and, eventually, completely disappeared. By 1956, Jacqueline married an English nobleman, Lord Crichton. Her husband died sometime after they had a son, Kenneth. She then moved back into Falsworth Manor, to look after her ill father.
In more recent years, Baron Blood returned to haunt Jacqueline and her family, and Lord Falsworth called Captain America for help. Captain America was able to destroy Baron Blood, beheading the vampire with his shield, although Jacqueline's father died of an heart attack during the final confrontation. Captain America was aided in battling the vampire by a friend of Jacqueline's son, Joey Chapman, who assumed the identity of Union Jack to help. Initially, Jacqueline disapproved of Chapman's lower class standing, although she did not stop him from continuing his crime-fighting career, and she eventually grew to accept him as a willing successor to her father and brother's legacy.
Later, Jacqueline was approached by Namorita, who needed help rescuing Prince Namor the Sub-Mariner and the Human Torch from the latest incarnation of the Nazi villain, Master Man. Jacqueline was reunited with Captain America and Union Jack. In attempting to rescue their ally, Jacqueline raced in the path of a bullet meant for Namor, discovering the last remnants of her super-speed. She was mortally wounded, but after another emergency blood transfusion from the android Human Torch, Jacqueline's metabolism returned to superhuman levels and her Spitfire powers reactivated. A side effect of her returning powers caused her to become young again, as she reverted to the body of a 16-year old. Jacqueline helped Namor on several occasions with his corporation Oracle, Inc., but eventually returned to her home at Falsworth Manor.
After her son Kenneth became the new Baron Blood and died battling Union Jack, Jacqueline found herself with no living relatives and discovered that she was now aging at twice the normal rate. Determined not to miss anything life offered, she began a romantic relationship with Chapman. Both were recruited into a new version of the Invaders by the Thin Man, hoping to bring down the group Axis Mundi. After this new Invaders subsequently disbanded, she and Chapman amicably ended their relationship, and she has most recently assisted Chapman and Captain America in defending London from the Red Skull's latest plot.
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What do you think of Spitfire? Do you hope she and Captain Britain end up investigating the Hellfire Club together as a part of the Captain Britain and MI:13 comic? Do you think someone within its ranks still holds a grudge against her?
Come To Deathstrike
05-06-2008, 11:14 AM
My Knowledge has increased!!
Hellfire club should most definitely be touched upon in CB.
And then Sage and Betsy can Return just in time.
Yesyesyesyesyes.
I do enjoy the Spitfire Falsworth Vampire Storylines
I look forward to her sucking a Skrull.
Blood.
Not .. .yeah.
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Mainstream Universe Madelyne Pryor is the Goblin Queen.
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Mutant X's Madelyne Pryor made a deal with a demon to turn her into the Goblin Queen (or Goblyn Queen), but this demon energy merges with the Phoenix Force, now called the Goblin Force.
In the Inferno TPB, Peter Sanderson accidentally uses "Goblyn Queen" instead of the correct word, Goblin Queen in his introduction; hence the confusion. It just dawned on me after I wrote this previous post. This could be source for other people using incorrect "Goblyn Queen" instead of Goblin Queen.
Hi-Fi
05-06-2008, 12:01 PM
Our fourteenth Hellfire Club Month Profile overall, and first here on May 6th is...
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Sunspot (Roberto “Bobby” DaCosta) –
Originally Black Rook of the Hellfire Club IV, briefly Black King of the Hellfire Club V, current Lord Imperial of theHellfire Club V
First appearance : Marvel Graphic Novel #4
First Hellfire V appearance : X-Force #94
All Hellfire V appearances : X-Force #94, 96-98, Ucanny X-Men # 453, 454, X-Men: Endangered Species #1, X-Men: Legacy #210.
Last Appearance: X-Men: Legacy #210
Powers : Absorb sunlight and other sources of heat energy, re-channeling them into concentrated solar energy that he can direct as waves of intense heat, dark plasma blasts, and thermal updrafts that allow him to fly. Sunspot originally metabolized solar energy into an energy charge that increase his strength, endurance, and resilience. He later learned how to focus this charge outwards as concussive blasts, energy shields, and thrust for flight. The many changes to his powers he has experienced at the hands of Cable, Reignfire, and the Damocles Foundation make it unclear as to if he can still access physical power enhancement.
Before His Hellfire Club Initiation:
Roberto da Costa was born and raised in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. He is the son of wealthy businessman Emmanuel da Costa and archaeologist Nina da Costa. The relationship between Roberto and his father, for a long time, resembled more closely one of best friends than father and son (the Hellfire Club would put a barrier between them, though). Nonetheless, Emmanuel constantly pushed his son to reach for both his physical and intellectual limits. Thanks to his father's encouragement, Roberto rose to the position of star futbol player at school, and was considered by recruiters for the Brazilian Olympic team. Shortly before what is believed to be his fourteenth birthday (as best can be determined; there are conflicting references) Roberto was playing a soccer game with his team (the Thunderbolts) against their arch-rivals, the Dynamos. Racist members of the Dynamos assaulted Roberto during the game, and in response Roberto took matters into his own hands, initiating a fight on the field. He proceeded to manifest his mutant powers, transforming suddenly into a creature of solid black solar energy. Surprised and terrified, people abandoned the stadium, and only his girlfriend, Juliana Sandoval, refused to abandon him.
Within a matter of days, a mutant-hating faction led by Donald Pierce and employing Hellfire Club mercenaries kidnapped Juliana to lure Roberto into a trap. He engages them, but is eventually defeated. Other young mutants by the name of Karma and Psyche rescue him. In the course of the following battle, against Pierce and his mercenaries, Juliana sacrifices her life for Robert, jumping in front of a bullet for him, and is seemingly lost to him forever (Marvel Graphic Novel #4).
After the rescue, Roberto joins Karma and Psyche in going after Donald Pierce. The three are joined by Wolfsbane, and after the battle by Sam Guthrie, a.k.a Cannonball, one of Pierce's misguided mutant hirelings, despite initial reservations by the others. Professor Charles Xavier offerd to train the five teenagers in controlling their nascent mutant powers, to which they accept and become the founding members to the group known as the New Mutants, a group of junior X-Men. During their time as teammates on the New Mutants, Roberto and Sam Guthrie would become best friends.
During the New Mutants history, the Hellfire Club would actively recruit Roberto's father, Emmanuel as their Black Rook (New Mutants (vol. 1) #7-12), and eventually, Emmanuel would enter the club's Inner Circle (New Mutants (vol. 1) #22). This would alienate the two for the forseeable future.
When Cable took over the New Mutants, he soon turned them into the paramilitary group X-Force, Sunspot parted ways with the team for awhile. During this time Sunspot was tutored by Gideon of the Externals, an old business partner of Roberto's father (who has since been killed by one of Gideon’s operatives) (New Mutants (vol. 1) #98). Suspecting Sunspot to be a fellow External, Gideon takes Sunspot under his wing, and experiments on him, in an attempt to grant him new powers such as flight and the ability to fire blasts of solar energy. For a time Sunspot was lost in the space-time continuum after interfering with the teleportation powers of the mutant Locus. During this time, a villain called Reignfire comes onto the scene, showing a remarkable similar appearance to Sunspot. After some time, X-Force would discover that Reignfire was a protoplasmic cellular construct that patterned itself after Roberto after being given access to a cellular sample from him. In effect, Reignfire was just an evil clone of Bobby.
Eventually X-Force would find themselves a separate entity without Cable, and when they started travelling around the country doing their own brand of moral mercenary work and odd jobs, Roberto would briefly have a tryst with Tabitha Smith, aka Meltdown, who was, at the time, his best friend’s girlfriend. In time, Sunspot and Meltdown would separate, and the brief rift that it created between Sam and Bobby would be mended.
Recruitment and time in the Hellfire Club:
Roberto would be approached by members of the Hellfire Club, who would point out that since his father Emmanuel had a seat in the Club so does he, as the seats are inherited genetically. The incarnation of the Hellfire Club, in question, was led by Selene, and also had Hellstorm and Blackheart as key members of its Inner Circle. Blackheart had recovered the soul of his long lost love, Juliana, and Selene promised Roberto that they would use their magicks to resurrect her if he joins. Sunspot agreed, and Selene kept her part of the bargain, but only to a certain extent. She brought back the spirit of Juliana, but inserts it into the body of a comatose girl. Possibly because he felt obliged to fulfill his promise, Roberto decides to stay, becoming Selene's Black Rook. He would meet “Juliana” later on the street, but the two do not seem to be aware of their identities (X-Force (vol. 1) #98).
After much time passes, Roberto next surfaces in the title X-Treme X-Men as the head of the Los Angelese branch of X-Corporation, along with former teammate Magma, and former Hellion, Empath. Roberto's ties to the Hellfire Club are revealed to have not been severed, as Sebastian Shaw approaches, having taken over the position of Hellfire Club's Lord Imperial and wanting Roberto as his Black King. Shaw claims that he is trying to turn the Club into a force of good, so Roberto accepts, though he keeps his involvement with Shaw a secret.Not long after at all, Shaw is injured in battle by Donald Pierce, and his injuries are severe enough to make him incapable of overseeing the Hellfire Club. Roberto again is given a field promotion, going from Black Rook to Black King to Lord Imperial seemingly overnight (Uncanny X-Men #454). At his side for a time was Sage, who left the X-Men to make sure Roberto is not corrupted by the power he wields. She would not remain long, however, soon joining the New Excalibur team.
After the events of M-Day, Cyclops called for the shutting down of all branches of the X-Corporation to better pool the resources of the X-Men. In Endangered Species, we learn from Sebastian Shaw at a funeral of a dead mutant who got hit by a car, that Roberto’s days might not last long as Lord Imperial. Shaw was thinking of deposing him, and while Professor X got some inkling of these thoughts, Shaw employed a psi-blocker before more details of his schemes could be revealed. He was last seen dismissing Shaw from his sight within the Hellfire Club, to talk further with Ms. Cabot (X-Men: Legacy #210).
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What do you think of Sunspot as a member of the Hellfire Club? Do you think his pact with Selene and Blackheart is somehow infernal? Do you think he will be able to hold onto the title of Lord Imperial of the Hellfire Club for long?
I love Roberto, but I'm kinda tired of the whole "he will be corrupted!!" plot. Sunspost aready proved time and time again that he's loyal. I actually hated when CC made him Black King. However, I am curious to see how Carey and Guggenheim will handle Berto in X-Men Legacy and Young X-Men, respectively.
Jack Flash
05-06-2008, 12:12 PM
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Lady Jacqueline Falsworth-Chichton, Spitfire –
Member of London Hellfire Club by Birthright
First Appearance: The Invaders (1975) #7First Hellfire Appearance: Technichally none. She is the daughter of Union Jack, however, which grants her the right to be a member of the London Hellfire Club through birthright.
Last Appearance: Captain America (vol. 4) #21.
Powers: As Spitfire, Jacqueline possessed the ability to run at lightning-fast speeds, with reflexes and agility to match. When she ran, a trail of non-damaging fire appeared behind her. Her skin was also hardened to withstand the rigors of such speed, providing a type of body armor.
Her Biography: During World War II, Jacqueline Falsworth bravely served in Britain’s Home Guard. During an air raid attack on London, she had less to fear from the bombing, however, than from the vampire Baron Blood, who attacked her. She was saved by the android Human Torch, who drove the vampire off. Jacqueline invited the Torch and his team, the Invaders, to dinner at the Falsworth Mansion. Her father, Lord Falsworth, then revealed to family and company that there was one other super-hero in their midst — himself! He told of his career during World War I as Union Jack and volunteered the use of his mansion as a base of operations for the Invaders.
(Hellfire ties: Spitfire’s father, Lord Montgomery Falsworth, was invited to join the London Hellfire Club in 1915 by Sir Henry Manners, and accepted the invitation to infiltrate the club, and learn its secrets. By birthright, this also gives Spitfire a claim to the clandestine society.)
This did not bode well for the other resident in the mansion, the Lord’s visiting "nephew" (really his brother), John Falsworth, who was secretly Baron Blood and a Nazi sympathizer. He arranged for the capture of Jacqueline and her father by a Nazi spy operation which the Invaders had been fighting, and he again attacked Jacqueline, biting her. The Invaders saved Jacqueline and her father, uncovering the truth about Baron Blood, but Jacqueline had been drained of too much blood. She was rushed to a hospital and received a blood transfusion from the Human Torch, who had developed quite a crush on the young woman. She soon discovered that the transfusion of the Torch's android blood, plus the foreign enzymes introduced into her bloodstream by Baron Blood's bite, combined to give her super-human speed. When the hospital was invaded by a Nazi agent in battle armor, called the Blue Bullet, who was looking for the Invaders, Jacqueline used her new powers to save the weakened Torch and to help the other Invaders defeat the Blue Bullet.
Jacqueline made herself a costume and called herself Spitfire, after the British fighter plane of the same name. She joined the Invaders, soon helping them recover her brother, Brian Falsworth, from behind enemy lines. The Torch’s feelings went unrequited, as Spitfire had developed her own crush on their teammate Captain America. Spitfire and Union Jack would continue to serve with the Invaders whenever they were in the U.K. Spitfire continued adventuring for some time, as the Invaders became the All-Winners Squad. She also joined her brother and the Destroyer in hunting war criminals. By 1951, they reorganized the V-Battalion with other heroes of the time, becoming the organization’s first ruling Penance Council. She left the V-Battalion after her brother died in a car accident, and retired from adventuring shortly thereafter.
During the 1950’s, Spitfire’s super powers had waned significantly and, eventually, completely disappeared. By 1956, Jacqueline married an English nobleman, Lord Crichton. Her husband died sometime after they had a son, Kenneth. She then moved back into Falsworth Manor, to look after her ill father.
In more recent years, Baron Blood returned to haunt Jacqueline and her family, and Lord Falsworth called Captain America for help. Captain America was able to destroy Baron Blood, beheading the vampire with his shield, although Jacqueline's father died of an heart attack during the final confrontation. Captain America was aided in battling the vampire by a friend of Jacqueline's son, Joey Chapman, who assumed the identity of Union Jack to help. Initially, Jacqueline disapproved of Chapman's lower class standing, although she did not stop him from continuing his crime-fighting career, and she eventually grew to accept him as a willing successor to her father and brother's legacy.
Later, Jacqueline was approached by Namorita, who needed help rescuing Prince Namor the Sub-Mariner and the Human Torch from the latest incarnation of the Nazi villain, Master Man. Jacqueline was reunited with Captain America and Union Jack. In attempting to rescue their ally, Jacqueline raced in the path of a bullet meant for Namor, discovering the last remnants of her super-speed. She was mortally wounded, but after another emergency blood transfusion from the android Human Torch, Jacqueline's metabolism returned to superhuman levels and her Spitfire powers reactivated. A side effect of her returning powers caused her to become young again, as she reverted to the body of a 16-year old. Jacqueline helped Namor on several occasions with his corporation Oracle, Inc., but eventually returned to her home at Falsworth Manor.
After her son Kenneth became the new Baron Blood and died battling Union Jack, Jacqueline found herself with no living relatives and discovered that she was now aging at twice the normal rate. Determined not to miss anything life offered, she began a romantic relationship with Chapman. Both were recruited into a new version of the Invaders by the Thin Man, hoping to bring down the group Axis Mundi. After this new Invaders subsequently disbanded, she and Chapman amicably ended their relationship, and she has most recently assisted Chapman and Captain America in defending London from the Red Skull's latest plot.
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What do you think of Spitfire? Do you hope she and Captain Britain end up investigating the Hellfire Club together as a part of the Captain Britain and MI:13 comic? Do you think someone within its ranks still holds a grudge against her?
She's no Clear Cut, that's for sure.
I love Roberto, but I'm kinda tired of the whole "he will be corrupted!!" plot. Sunspost aready proved time and time again that he's loyal. I actually hated when CC made him Black King. However, I am curious to see how Carey and Guggenheim will handle Berto in X-Men Legacy and Young X-Men, respectively.
Chris Claremont made Sunspot Lord Imperial of the entire Hellfire Club with Sage at his side as council after deposing Sebastian Shaw; for plans such as these, it takes several years to properly develop a good story.
worstblogever
05-06-2008, 01:44 PM
Chris Claremont made Sunspot Lord Imperial of the entire Hellfire Club with Sage at his side as council after deposing Sebastian Shaw; for plans such as these, it takes several years to properly develop a good story.
Seems to be the excuse given whenever a six issue arc seems to aimlessly ignore all established continuity, and leave a lot of plotholes unresolved.
Dagger
05-06-2008, 10:22 PM
Chris Claremont made Sunspot Lord Imperial of the entire Hellfire Club with Sage at his side as council after deposing Sebastian Shaw; for plans such as these, it takes several years to properly develop a good story.
Ugh. Chasing Hellfire was a horrible piece of crap. I'll be glad when that's all retconned away.
worstblogever
05-07-2008, 03:33 AM
The first entry here on May 7th, and sixteenth overall is...
Trevor Fitzroy-
White Rook of the Hellfire Club III
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First appearance: Uncanny X-Men #281
First Hellfire III appearance: X-Man #17
Last appearance: Bishop: The Last X-Man #14
All Hellfire Club Appearances: X-Man #17, 20-22, 28, Cable (vol. 2) #51-52, X-Men (vol. 2) #73.
Powers: Drain the life energy from other people upon contact, metabolizing it into different forms of chronal energy, allowing him to freeze people in a moment of time, reverse or accelerate their personal timeframe, and materialize portals that allow travel through time and space.
Equipment: crystal armor with built in weapons, had a set of future Sentinel versions
Fitzroy Facts:
- Fitzroy is from the same future as Bishop, where he was a wanted criminal.
- At the time of his association with the Club, Fitzroy could only open portals through time.
- Originally, Fitzroy was not as blood-thirsty and only drained small portions of other people's life energy to power his portals. As a result, he at first believed his temporal portals to be teleportation portals, since he would only travel at most a few minutes back in time.
His Life Before the Hellfire Club: Born 70 years in the future, possibly descended from Sebastian Shaw (an illegimate son of Shaw’s descendant) Fitzroy was a trainee in the X.S.E., but became Bishop's nemesis when he turned to crime, especially after he set up Bishop's sister Shard, and had her killed by Emplates. When Fitzroy broke out of XSE HQ and fled to the Twentieth Century, Bishop and his team followed, but Fiztroy escaped. As a member of the Upstarts, Fitzroy killed the young mutants known as the Hellions, whose life-energies he used to bring criminals from his century into ours. In his attack on the Hellions, he badly wounded Emma Frost. His next act as an Upstart would also be against someone with Hellfire Club ties, when he would attack Donald Pierce and his Reavers. He also attempted to kill Forge but the Maker and Mystique held him off until the X-Men could arrive. Soon afterwards, he found young Sienna Blaze, a powerful mutant whom he sponsored for membership in the Upstarts. He said that an older Blaze had told him exactly who she was and where and when to find her; presumably to change her life, or to ensure that history happened the way she remembered it. While Selene may have created the Upstarts competition, she soon loses control of it when in Uncanny X-Men #301, Fitzroy imprisons her in a device called Spooling Chamber, to earn him points in the Upstarts competition, which is now being run exclusively by Gamesmaster. It would be this decision, in particular, that would come back to haunt him later. He then participated in the Younghunt, where he was presumed dead after he tried to drain Cable's life force through his techno-organic arm and was sucked into his own portal. Why the portal didn't drain Fitzroy’s own life force is still unknown.
His Time in the Hellfire Club: As the Hellfire Club III reformed, and somehow managed to (off panel) supplant Shinobi Shaw’s Hellfire Club II, and Sebastian Shaw apparently took in the young Upstart Trevor Fitzroy to be the new White Rook. Selene, however, is back as Black Queen, and seething at Fitzroy for imprisoning her in the Spooling Chamber. From the Hellfire Club in New York, she sends a somehow resurrected Madelyne Pryor to the London Hellfire Club to attract his attention. Fitzroy falls her charms, but when she rebuffs him, he tries to battle her, instead. Madelyne punched through his bio-mesh armor using telekinetically empowered fists, defeating him. Selene arrives to see the defeated Fitzroy, and uses her sorcery to enthrall him to her will (X-Man #23). He would remain White Rook under her thrall, and would serve the club loyally, including using his temporal powers to determine that a monk from Cable’s future who returned to the past with information about Apocalypse’s secret bases was, in fact, telling the truth. His time with the Club, however, would come to a close when Sebastian Shaw received a mysterious letter at a Hellfire Club party in Rio, and after reading it, told Fitzroy he was accepting the offer in the envelope, and that it would behoove Fitzroy to leave the Hellfire Club as well (X-Men (vol. 2) #73[/I]).
His Life After the Hellfire Club: Fitzroy found away to again increase his power levels substantially and journeyed to a future timeline in which Earth was reduced to medieval technology levels. There Fitzroy set himself up as the Chronomancer and took over, using time-jumping robots with futuristic weapons to keep control. Then he had Shard brought to that time, where he kept her captive, but before his goons got her, they transported Bishop to Fitzroy's realm as well. Bishop, however, remained on the loose, and Fitzroy began to modify Shard to make her human again. His powers increased dramatically, to the point where he could freeze people in a type of stasis and open many more portals than before. In addition, his energy powered the Chronotroopers and his enitre fortress. In the final battle, Fitzroy used Shard as bait for Bishop, and he captured his rival when Shard betrayed him. Fitzroy tortured Bishop mentally and physically before leaving him to "assume his destiny as Master of Time."
Fitzroy's plan was to become Time itself, a feat so ambitious that Uatu the Watcher himself came to observe. Unfortunately, Bishop had been freed by his companion Link, and arrived to stop Fitzroy from entering the giant portal he had created. A fight ensued, and Fitzroy emerged victorious and headed for the portal again. Bishop, drained of energy had no chance until Shard arrived and turned herself into energy again, forcing Bishop to absorb her and blast her at Fitzroy. Bishop missed, but Fitzroy hesitated enough that Bishop caught him and held him half in, half out of the portal until it closed on itself, cutting Fitzroy in half.
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What did you think of Trevor Fitzroy as a member of the Hellfire Club? Was he a moron for joining the club after screwing over Selene, or what? Will you hate him forever for killing off a lot of awesome characters for his stupid time portals?
Leirus
05-07-2008, 03:44 AM
Trevor Fitzroy-
White Rook of the Hellfire Club III
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First appearance: Uncanny X-Men #281
First Hellfire III appearance: X-Man #17
Last appearance: Bishop: The Last X-Man #14
All Hellfire Club Appearances: X-Man #17, 20-22, 28, Cable (vol. 2) #51-52, X-Men (vol. 2) #73.
Powers: Drain the life energy from other people upon contact, metabolizing it into different forms of chronal energy, allowing him to freeze people in a moment of time, reverse or accelerate their personal timeframe, and materialize portals that allow travel through time and space.
Equipment: crystal armor with built in weapons, had a set of future Sentinel versions
Fitzroy Facts:
- Fitzroy is from the same future as Bishop, where he was a wanted criminal.
- At the time of his association with the Club, Fitzroy could only open portals through time.
- Originally, Fitzroy was not as blood-thirsty and only drained small portions of other people's life energy to power his portals. As a result, he at first believed his temporal portals to be teleportation portals, since he would only travel at most a few minutes back in time.
His Life Before the Hellfire Club: Born 70 years in the future, possibly descended from Sebastian Shaw (an illegimate son of Shaw’s descendant) Fitzroy was a trainee in the X.S.E., but became Bishop's nemesis when he turned to crime, especially after he set up Bishop's sister Shard, and had her killed by Emplates. When Fitzroy broke out of XSE HQ and fled to the Twentieth Century, Bishop and his team followed, but Fiztroy escaped. As a member of the Upstarts, Fitzroy killed the young mutants known as the Hellions, whose life-energies he used to bring criminals from his century into ours. In his attack on the Hellions, he badly wounded Emma Frost. His next act as an Upstart would also be against someone with Hellfire Club ties, when he would attack Donald Pierce and his Reavers. He also attempted to kill Forge but the Maker and Mystique held him off until the X-Men could arrive. Soon afterwards, he found young Sienna Blaze, a powerful mutant whom he sponsored for membership in the Upstarts. He said that an older Blaze had told him exactly who she was and where and when to find her; presumably to change her life, or to ensure that history happened the way she remembered it. While Selene may have created the Upstarts competition, she soon loses control of it when in Uncanny X-Men #301, Fitzroy imprisons her in a device called Spooling Chamber, to earn him points in the Upstarts competition, which is now being run exclusively by Gamesmaster. It would be this decision, in particular, that would come back to haunt him later. He then participated in the Younghunt, where he was presumed dead after he tried to drain Cable's life force through his techno-organic arm and was sucked into his own portal. Why the portal didn't drain Fitzroy’s own life force is still unknown.
His Time in the Hellfire Club: As the Hellfire Club III reformed, and somehow managed to (off panel) supplant Shinobi Shaw’s Hellfire Club II, and Sebastian Shaw apparently took in the young Upstart Trevor Fitzroy to be the new White Rook. Selene, however, is back as Black Queen, and seething at Fitzroy for imprisoning her in the Spooling Chamber. From the Hellfire Club in New York, she sends a somehow resurrected Madelyne Pryor to the London Hellfire Club to attract his attention. Fitzroy falls her charms, but when she rebuffs him, he tries to battle her, instead. Madelyne punched through his bio-mesh armor using telekinetically empowered fists, defeating him. Selene arrives to see the defeated Fitzroy, and uses her sorcery to enthrall him to her will (X-Man #23). He would remain White Rook under her thrall, and would serve the club loyally, including using his temporal powers to determine that a monk from Cable’s future who returned to the past with information about Apocalypse’s secret bases was, in fact, telling the truth. His time with the Club, however, would come to a close when Sebastian Shaw received a mysterious letter at a Hellfire Club party in Rio, and after reading it, told Fitzroy he was accepting the offer in the envelope, and that it would behoove Fitzroy to leave the Hellfire Club as well.
His Life After the Hellfire Club: Fitzroy found away to again increase his power levels substantially and journeyed to a future timeline in which Earth was reduced to medieval technology levels. There Fitzroy set himself up as the Chronomancer and took over, using time-jumping robots with futuristic weapons to keep control. Then he had Shard brought to that time, where he kept her captive, but before his goons got her, they transported Bishop to Fitzroy's realm as well. Bishop, however, remained on the loose, and Fitzroy began to modify Shard to make her human again. His powers increased dramatically, to the point where he could freeze people in a type of stasis and open many more portals than before. In addition, his energy powered the Chronotroopers and his enitre fortress. In the final battle, Fitzroy used Shard as bait for Bishop, and he captured his rival when Shard betrayed him. Fitzroy tortured Bishop mentally and physically before leaving him to "assume his destiny as Master of Time."
Fitzroy's plan was to become Time itself, a feat so ambitious that Uatu the Watcher himself came to observe. Unfortunately, Bishop had been freed by his companion Link, and arrived to stop Fitzroy from entering the giant portal he had created. A fight ensued, and Fitzroy emerged victorious and headed for the portal again. Bishop, drained of energy had no chance until Shard arrived and turned herself into energy again, forcing Bishop to absorb her and blast her at Fitzroy. Bishop missed, but Fitzroy hesitated enough that Bishop caught him and held him half in, half out of the portal until it closed on itself, cutting Fitzroy in half.
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What did you think of Trevor Fitzroy as a member of the Hellfire Club? Was he a moron for joining the club after screwing over Selene, or what? Will you hate him forever for killing off a lot of awesome characters for his stupid time portals?
What do I think about Fitzroy?
HATE
Stupid, stupid character with a horrible look and clumsy powers...
He destroyed the Hellions to look more important
But he was, and will always be a
MORON
I was more than happy when colossus beat him to a pulp,
I loved Faux Madeline Pryor when she destroyed his armor barehanded
I was happy when Bishop made two of him
ARGH I hope he never, ever comes back
That is what I think about him
worstblogever
05-07-2008, 03:53 AM
What do I think about Fitzroy?
HATE
Stupid, stupid character with a horrible look and clumsy powers...
He destroyed the Hellions to look more important
But he was, and will always be a
MORON
I was more than happy when colossus beat him to a pulp,
I loved Faux Madeline Pryor when she destroyed his armor barehanded
I was happy when Bishop made two of him
ARGH I hope he never, ever comes back
That is what I think about him
Tell me how you really feel about Fitzroy. Damn. I think he's a *****, too, but that's an impressive rant.
Leirus
05-07-2008, 04:09 AM
Tell me how you really feel about Fitzroy. Damn. I think he's a *****, too, but that's an impressive rant.
I know... I am sorry...
But for me... those were dark years... I loved deeply the new mutants and their rivals the Hellions (See? Not enemies -rivals-)
And then, the 90ies arrived with the big guns, the explosions, the steroids, this horrible green-haired guy...
And no more Hellions, no more New Mutants
That is why He represents all the worse in the Marvel-verse.
My hate for Fitzroy burns with the blaze of ten thousands suns
Also, when Illyana was in her deathbed, and only a Shi-Ar thingie could save her, a Shi-Ar device that only Forge, perhaps, could use... Who was there to screw the whole situation, thus killing Little Snowflake indirectly?
Yessss Fitzroy. Again. With the Upstarters, who are, today, nearly all dead (Hoooray)
Hakael
05-07-2008, 04:21 AM
I was only a tike when Fitzroy showed up on the scene and took out the Hellions.
The man was a badass, and worked as a great foil to Bishop.
Granted, the situation of his entrance could have been handled better (well, Empath got out okay... didn't he... and Tarot's powers brought her back... thats two survivors). But how many villains can you name in the X-universe who have killed named characters with development, and a lot of them? This guy eliminated a majority of the reavers and hellions.
Also, the upstarts still have some heavy hitters left... Gamemaster, Shinobi Shaw, and Selene are all still kicking.
That said, I've always preferred Mountjoy to Fitzy.
worstblogever
05-07-2008, 04:27 AM
I know... I am sorry...
But for me... those were dark years... I loved deeply the new mutants and their rivals the Hellions (See? Not enemies -rivals-)
And then, the 90ies arrived with the big guns, the explosions, the steroids, this horrible green-haired guy...
And no more Hellions, no more New Mutants
That is why He represents all the worse in the Marvel-verse.
My hate for Fitzroy burns with the blaze of ten thousands suns
Also, when Illyana was in her deathbed, and only a Shi-Ar thingie could save her, a Shi-Ar device that only Forge, perhaps, could use... Who was there to screw the whole situation, thus killing Little Snowflake indirectly?
Yessss Fitzroy. Again. With the Upstarters, who are, today, nearly all dead (Hoooray)
Hating Fitzroy is by no means an incorrect response. He is a lot of what was wrong with all things X in the 90s. Unnecessary armor suit. Powers that seemingly require him to kill. Random bizarre hair.
I look at him like a pro-wrestling heel. You were supposed to hate him, and boo the hell out of him. And that way, you would cheer for someone... anyone... who would kick his obnoxious little ***. Hell, seeing Selene screw with him made me like Selene.
Leirus
05-07-2008, 04:31 AM
Hating Fitzroy is by no means an incorrect response. He is a lot of what was wrong with all things X in the 90s. Unnecessary armor suit. Powers that seemingly require him to kill. Random bizarre hair.
I look at him like a pro-wrestling heel. You were supposed to hate him, and boo the hell out of him. And that way, you would cheer for someone... anyone... who would kick his obnoxious little ***. Hell, seeing Selene screw with him made me like Selene.
I agree... I liked Selene & Maddie controlling him... that Hellfire version was interesant... But at the end, they did not do anything, did they?
worstblogever
05-07-2008, 04:41 AM
I agree... I liked Selene & Maddie controlling him... that Hellfire version was interesant... But at the end, they did not do anything, did they?
The whole storyline of the Hellfire Club III vs. X-Man, sadly, was scrapped. It was interesting to see the villains all jockeying around each other for position, with the women of the HC being the dangerous ones (Selene, Maddie, and Tessa), and Shaw being in power, and having each one of them trying to play off of him for it.
In that whole endeavor, Fitzroy was totally just a pawn, though.
Which, again, all Hellfire Club Rooks=Pawns, so it seems.
Jack Flash
05-07-2008, 07:52 AM
The whole storyline of the Hellfire Club III vs. X-Man, sadly, was scrapped. It was interesting to see the villains all jockeying around each other for position, with the women of the HC being the dangerous ones (Selene, Maddie, and Tessa), and Shaw being in power, and having each one of them trying to play off of him for it.
In that whole endeavor, Fitzroy was totally just a pawn, though.
Which, again, all Hellfire Club Rooks=Pawns, so it seems.
the last version with Roberto installed is the weakest it's ever been for the HFC.
jarrod
05-07-2008, 08:36 AM
Ugh. Chasing Hellfire was a horrible piece of crap. I'll be glad when that's all retconned away.
It *was* awful... but I can't truly hate any storyline with Selene in it.
I'm sick. Help me. :(
Dagger
05-07-2008, 08:38 AM
It *was* awful... but I can't truly hate any storyline with Selene in it.
I'm sick. Help me. :(
That's no excuse, Jar! Selene was a non-factor in this story! Instead we had more lame Red Lotus and having Emma teach Ray a trick she's known since she was first introduced:rolleyes:
Okay, I'll help you, honey! I'm going to have to go all old school and not spare the rod, cause that'll spoil the child:tongue:
worstblogever
05-07-2008, 09:39 AM
The second entry here on May 7th, and seventeenth overall is...
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Adrienne Frost –
(Self Proclaimed) White Queen of the Hellfire Club IV
First appearance: Generation X #49
First Hellfire IV appearance: none on panel, her membership is only claimed, never confirmed.
Last appearance: Generation X #70 (shot by Emma Frost, revealed in Generation X #75)
Powers: Psychometric ability enables her to manipulate the mental imprint of another person after taking it from a solid object. This allows her to feel any thoughts or emotions that person had when previously in contact with the item, and allowing her to influence their mind from a distance after the initial contact.
Her Life Prior to the Hellfire Club: Adrienne was the first child born to Hazel and Winston Frost. Siblings Christian, Emma and Cordelia followed. The Frost home was not one of love and kindness but one of mind and power games. She was the perfect child and was the favorite of their cold and emotionless father. From a very young age, Adrienne made it her point of duty to be the dutiful daughter, hoping to gain her father's favor and eventually win all his money and inheritance. Adrienne was a power monger and showed little remorse or emotion when hurting her siblings both emotionally and physically. At an early age Adrienne discovered her mutant ability of Psychometry: the ability to touch an object and instantly know the object's history in terms of events surrounding its past, present, and future owners. Her power revealed to her what she had always known: Winston, her father had little intention of dividing his fortune between all of his children. Instead, he planned to pick the child who he perceived as being able to guide his company into a state of growth and prosperity. This simply reinforced her original beliefs and she became cold and distant to the world, the only people who were worth anything were those she could manipulate in her chess game of power. Her power allowed her to become an 'A' student and excel in all her endeavors. All was going according to plan until her little sister Emma hit puberty.
Adrienne through the use of her power and through careful manipulation had sidetracked all her siblings or so she thought. Cordelia was a drug addict, Christian had no regard for his father's power games and Emma could not measure up to her, or so she thought. She continued on her upward climb of the social ladder, modeling and making various business ventures. Emma however was becoming a wild card in her game as her rebellion against their father lead to Winston developing a profound new interest in her. To demoralize her Adrienne outed Christian, her younger brother, as gay and set things in motion that lead to his attempted suicide. Still Emma was not broken and so Adrienne exposed Emma's kiss with her teacher Ian Kendall which resulted in him being fired. Emma shocked her sister by exposing her posing for a magazine cover without her father's knowledge. (Emma Frost #1-6)
Despite her best laid plans Adrienne had no control over the fact that her father saw Emma as akin to him when he was young. Confident as always, Adrienne gathered with her siblings for her father to reveal who would guide his finances into the next millennium. She was sure she was the one, too sure. Winston started by announcing that he knew that he was wasting his time with Christian, so he focused on the remaining heirs to the throne and how they live up to his expectations. Her father would announce later that Emma would in fact be the one to inherit the family fortune.
In that one instant all her hopes and dreams were shattered, all her years of carefully laid chess work gone. For all intents and purposes she was only second best. While she stood there shocked at what had happened, she didn't get time to scream as three men entered the room to cart off Christian to an asylum. Emma, finally having had enough of her family, decides she wants no part in the family fortune and walks out saying she will make her own way.
Adrienne, crushed by the revelations of being second best, grew to resent her father and dream of how she could one day get even with dear little sister Emma. Over the next few months, she pretended to remain daddy's dutiful daughter while devising how to punish her sister and father. The opportunity presented itself in the form of a video tape of Emma bound and captured by unknown assailants. Through the judicious application of her power, she knew it was a ruse by Emma's captors, further she knew that she could hurt both her father and sister by leaking the tape to the media. The captors would kill Emma anyway and her father who would let Emma die would be forced to "save face" in the public eye once the tape was exposed. She miscalculated, however, and when her father found out he lashed out angrily at her by physically assaulting her.
Realizing that her father had become a hindrance, she waited patiently for a chance to get rid of him. She was present with her family when they posed together for a public plea for the safe return of her sister Emma. During the shoot she had to cover her swollen eye with a pair of glasses. After this it is unknown what happened to her father and mother as Emma escaped and eventually joined the Hellfire Club. She then got married and her husband, Steven, mysteriously died. The insight gleaned from using her Psychometric gift enabled Adrienne to gain a vast personal fortune in the years she and Emma were estranged.
Her sister Emma first approached Adrienne to loan her some money after her Massachusetts Academy had fallen into debt. Initially turning Emma down because of their past stormy history, Adrienne accepted her offer after using her powers to learn that the academy was secretly the home for Generation X. She became co-headmaster of the Massachusetts Academy. For a time it seemed that she had gotten over her past and had become a better person, but all was not as it seemed. She convinced her sister to re-open the school to the public to raise the funds necessary to keep the school open. As a result of the new human student body she gave the Generation-x new uniforms and assignments. The first of these assignments was to retrieve a sword from Madripoor along with Paladin who she shared a past with, both professionally and personally. She sent the students in harms way just so she could recover the sword used to kill her late husband, a husband which she had assassinated. She used her powers to determine if he knew she was the one that had caused his death, revealing that she was no saint.
Her real intentions for accepting Emma's offer to sponsor the school then surfaced, using a combination of her powers and the Danger Room, she trapped Generation X in a simulation recreating Emma's earlier students The Hellions' demise at the hands of Trevor Fitzroy. She had hoped to drive Emma insane by watching another group of her students die.
Her (sort of) time in the Hellfire Club:While Emma and Generation X were able to escape this illusion, Adrienne, now calling herself the new White Queen, escaped by using a teleportation device concealed as a necklace around her neck. Adrienne went to London where she successfully embezzled millions from the Hellfire Club of which she claimed to be the White Queen of. (while this must not have been an easy feat it leaves the mystery involved is how she could be the WHITE Queen of that Hellfire Club, since they only have a Red Queen and Black Queen. So, this leaves Adrienne’s true Hellfire Club status in doubt.)
She then began to plot her revenge on Emma by returning to the school demanding that she be reinstalled as headmistress or she would out the school as a mutant sanctuary. She later planted bombs at the school that would kill several students including Synch. Emma later confronted Adrienne and the two fought. When Adrienne made it clear that she intended to escalate the violence and endanger more students, Emma shot her in the heart, putting an end to Adrienne's sordid life and her years of machinations. After she died she made one other appearance, that of a psionic ghost or mental illusion to her sister Emma who was having conflicting emotions about having killed her. In the end however Emma realized she was not sorry that she had killed Adrienne only that she didn't kill her before she could have endangered her students. She has not been seen since.
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What do you think of Adrienne Frost? Was she actually a member of any Hellfire Club? Would she have made a good White Queen had she not been shot and killed?
Dagger
05-07-2008, 10:19 AM
As a staunch Hellfire Club fan, and a GINORMOUS Generation X fan, I would have to say I would have loved to see Adrian join an actual Hellfire Club line-up. She was just evil enough for me to enjoy seeing, and a perfect foil for her sister, who was trying to go legit, even though I didn't like the den-mother handling that Emma got after Lobdell left the title.
Jack Flash
05-07-2008, 11:32 AM
As a staunch Hellfire Club fan, and a GINORMOUS Generation X fan, I would have to say I would have loved to see Adrian join an actual Hellfire Club line-up. She was just evil enough for me to enjoy seeing, and a perfect foil for her sister, who was trying to go legit, even though I didn't like the den-mother handling that Emma got after Lobdell left the title.
Adrienne is my least favorite Frost sister. Can't wait till we get the PHENOMENAL FANTASTIC SUPER WONDEROUS Cordelia Frost bio!
Dagger
05-07-2008, 12:11 PM
Adrienne is my least favorite Frost sister. Can't wait till we get the PHENOMENAL FANTASTIC SUPER WONDEROUS Cordelia Frost bio!
ZOMG, HER APPEARANCE IN THE GEN. X ANNUAL, WHERE SHE'S ALL IN RED LINGERIE AND TRYING TO SEDUCE SHINOBI IS HAWTNESS SQUARED!!!! Cordelia>Adrienne>Christophe>Emma.
worstblogever
05-07-2008, 12:31 PM
And for the record... Adrienne's boob job looks even more fake than Emma's. Especially in that lower picture.
worstblogever
05-08-2008, 02:30 AM
The first profile here on May 8th and eighteenth overall is...
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Cordelia Frost –
Applicant for White Queen of Hellfire Club II
First appearance: Generation X #3
First Hellfire II appearance: Revealed to have made a bid to join in Generation X 1995 Annual
Last appearance: In Continuity, Generation X #61, In flashbacks to years ago, Emma Frost #12.
All Hellfire II appearances: Generation X 1995 Annual
Powers: Empathy, Emotional control, Ability to manifest psionic blasts
Her life before she approached the Hellfire Club: Cordelia Frost is the younger sister of Emma Frost and Adrienne Frost, as well as being the youngest of the four Frost siblings. She was regarded by her parents as being the "lost" one in the family, and as such she rebelled by dressing in black, having sullen, sulky moods and being argumentative.. (Emma Frost #1-12)
Her botched application to the Hellfire Club's Inner Circle: Cordelia, as an adult first made an appearance when she "discovered" Mondo, a mutant who saved her life on Samoa. The two became friends, but Cordelia later would force Mondo under empathic mind-control and try to turn him over to the Hellfire Club's Inner Circle to get herself probationary membership and a chance at White Queen. However, her petition was rejected by Shinobi Shaw, the Black King, and leader of the Hellfire Club at that time. (Generation X Annual 1995) At that moment, a squad of mercenaries burst in and abducted and rescued Mondo (later revealed to be Generation X) and he ended up joining them. (Generation X #3)
After her attempt to join the Hellfire Club's Inner Circle: After Mondo later seemingly betrayed the team to Black Tom Cassidy, and was himself killed by Bastion, it was later revealed that the "Mondo" who betrayed Generation X was a duplicate created by Black Tom Cassidy, who covertly liberated the original Mondo from the Hellfire Club. Black Tom raised the boy as his own, and then set about exacting revenge on Cordelia for betraying Mondo to the Hellfire Club. Cordelia fled to her elder sister Emma begging for help as Black Tom, Mondo, and the Juggernaut were after her. After a brief battle, the tide turned and the villains fled. During the confusion, Cordelia slipped away. (Generation X #61)Her current whereabouts are unknown.
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What do you think of Cordelia Frost? Should she have become White Queen of the Hellfire Club II instead of Reeva Payge? What do you think she’s up to now? How do you think she’ll react to the fact that her sister Emma shot her other sister Adrienne?
Jack Flash
05-08-2008, 06:32 AM
I love me some Cordelia Frost. One of my all time favorite snotty nosed bratty little sibling characters in the history of comics! She's got the perfect mix of brat/rebel/hooker with a heart.
Is the HFC Frost family membership hereditary? If so, no Christian? If not, poor Christian, always excluded! I can't wait till he makes a comeback with powers and a latino leather daddy in tow.
worstblogever
05-08-2008, 06:35 AM
I love me some Cordelia Frost. One of my all time favorite snotty nosed bratty little sibling characters in the history of comics! She's got the perfect mix of brat/rebel/hooker with a heart.
Is the HFC Frost family membership hereditary? If so, no Christian? If not, poor Christian, always excluded! I can't wait till he makes a comeback with powers and a latino leather daddy in tow.
I think having a leather daddy in tow is a requirement to gain entry. It's why Selene brought Freidrich von Roehm, after all. :biggrin:
Jack Flash
05-08-2008, 06:42 AM
I think having a leather daddy in tow is a requirement to gain entry. It's why Selene brought Freidrich von Roehm, after all. :biggrin:
It's totally a ticket to ride. If Harry Leland was still alive he'd so wear a dog collar for Christian.
For reals! If you were this beret wearing rich boy:
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would you get with
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Check out the fup on him!
or
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*sex in a can!*
worstblogever
05-08-2008, 06:45 AM
It's totally a ticket to ride. If Harry Leland was still alive he'd so wear a dog collar for Christian.
For reals! If you were this beret wearing rich boy:
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would you get with
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Check out the fup on him!
or
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*sex in a can!*
Actually most successful Hellfire Club members bring a leather daddy in tow. After all, Emma made sure she was with Harry Leland, the ultimate leather daddy bear on her first night in the club. (more about that in but 3 hours!).
Home made ectoplasm
05-08-2008, 07:01 AM
It's totally a ticket to ride. If Harry Leland was still alive he'd so wear a dog collar for Christian.
For reals! If you were this beret wearing rich boy:
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would you get with
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Check out the fup on him!
or
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*sex in a can!*
Threesome, duh
worstblogever
05-08-2008, 09:51 AM
Our second entry on May 8th, and nineteenth overall is...
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Emma Frost -
White Queen of Hellfire Club I
First appearance: Uncanny X-Men #129
Chronological listing of All Hellfire and Hellions Appearances: Generation X #minus 1, X-Men: The Hellfire Club #4, Classic X-Men #7, 34, Uncanny X-Men #129-131, 151-152, Firestar #1, Uncanny X-Men #169, Annual #7, #180, New Mutants (1st series) #15-16, Uncanny X-Men #182, New Mutants (1st series) #17, Firestar #3-4, New Mutants (1st series) #26, 38-40, Uncanny X-Men #210, New Mutants (1st series) #51, Uncanny X-Men #219, New Mutants (1st series) #53-54, 56-57, 62, Annual #4, #69-71, 73-75, Marvel Comics Present #78, X-Men Unlimited (1st series) #33, New Warriors (1st series) #5, 8-10, Uncanny X-Men #281 (Also listed are her appearances as the mentor of the Hellions I)
Last Appearance: X-Men: Legacy #210.
Powers(While in the Hellfire Club):Telepathic abilities enable her to read and project thoughts, plant illusions in the minds of others, and release her astral form.
Current Powerset: Emma has an arsenal of psionic techniques she can use to subdue her opponents including telepathy, thought projection, psionic force bolts, psionic illusions, mental sedition, induction of mental pain, and astral projection. She also has a secondary mutation which manifests in diamond skin.
Her Life Before the Hellfire Club:
Emma Frost was born into a wealthy old Boston mercantile family that arrived from England in the 1600s. The second of three daughters, Emma also had an older brother named Christian who had turned to substance abuse as an escape from the drudgery of his life. Unknown to their family or themselves, the three Frost sisters were mutants whose psychic abilities matured upon reaching puberty. When it came time for their father to choose a worthy heir to the family fortune, Christian was automatically dismissed due to his drug problem. Whilst the older sister Adrienne seemed the most obvious choice, the father chose Emma. Surprisingly, she refused, choosing to make her own way through life.
Emma ultimately inherited a good deal of wealth, but most of her large fortune resulted from her professional success. She ascended rapidly to the upper echelon of the business world on the strength of her intelligence, drive, and personal charm, as well as the secret use of her mental powers. Generation X: Minus One shows Emma Frost using her telepathy to get invited to certain parties, and her willingness to read the other guests' minds she gets enough Wall Street tips to build a fortune. At one of these parties, she first meets Harry Leland and through him she learns about Sebastian Shaw and the Hellfire Club. Also, at some point, the Dark Beast met Emma, and helped her rise to wealth and power, as well as a mentor by providing some scientific help. Eventually, Emma became majority stockholder of a multi-billion dollar conglomerate principally involved in electronics and transportation - both the building of ships and aircraft, and their use for freight and passenger conveyance. Despite her relative youth, she was named chairwoman of the board and chief executive officer of the rechristened Frost International. She also became headmistress and chairwoman of the board of trustees of the Massachusetts Academy - a college preparatory school for students in grades seven through twelve located in the Berkshire Mountains in Snow Valley, Massachusetts.
Emma’s Application to the Hellfire Club, and rise to White Queen:
Emma's continued success made her even more desirable for recruitment by the Hellfire Club, an elite social organization consisting of the world's wealthiest and most powerful figures. When she learned that the club was hiring dancers, she promptly auditioned and used her telepathic talents to enhance her performance in their eyes. Unlike the other females in the Club, Emma was never uncomfortable with the strict dress code that required female members to wear lingerie at all times. She believed her revealing wardrobe to be one of many weapons in her arsenal, one that gave her an instant advantage over men. Frost quickly became an ally of Sebastian Shaw, a member of the club's Council of the Chosen who were secretly conspiring to achieve world domination through economic and political means. At the time, the leaders of the club and council - its foremost Lords Cardinal, whose titles corresponded to the names of chess pieces - were White King Edward Buckman and White Queen Paris Seville.
Buckman threw the council's support behind Project: Armageddon, scientist Steven Lang's program to construct mutant-hunting Sentinel robots. Aware of Shaw's genetic disposition, Buckman told him the initiative's intent was to capture mutants as a means of helping the council attain power. Using her psionic powers, Emma learned that the project's actual purpose was the annihilation of all genetic deviants. The night Shaw's lover, Lourdes Chantel, was murdered by one of the Sentinels, Shaw and Frost staged a coup that saw them seize control of the Council of the Chosen, which they renamed the Inner Circle. Emma was the lynchpin of the coup, using her mental powers to dominate Ned Buckman into shooting the whole of the Council of the Chosen, and then turn his weapon on himself. (Classic X-Men #7) Shaw took the title of Black King, and Frost became the new White Queen.
worstblogever
05-08-2008, 09:53 AM
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As White Queen of the Hellfire Club:
Under Shaw and Frost's leadership, mutants dominated the Inner Circle. To strengthen the Club's power base, Emma recruited genetically gifted youngsters and helped them hone their abilities at her school. Most of these students were members of the Hellions, Emma's first mutant super-team. She initially encountered the outlaw band of heroic mutant adventurers known as the X-Men when she unsuccessfully attempted to recruit young Kitty Pryde, the phase-shifting mutant then known as Shadowcat.
Subsequently, Emma is present, and trying to help manipulate Jean Grey and Dark Phoenix following her inability to recruit Kitty Pryde. most notably when she was part of the Hellfire Club that tried to corrupt Jean Grey/Dark Phoenix into the club’s Black Queen. For her trouble, Phoenix destroyed a building with Emma in it, incapacitating her beneath the rubble for a time. (Uncanny X-Men #131)
When we next see Emma as a member of the Hellfire Club (Uncanny X-Men #151 and 152), Kitty’s parents decide to pull her out of Xavier’s School, and enroll her at the Massachussets Academy. She apparently achieved this goal by telepathic suggestion on Kitty’s father, Carmen. Furthering this act, she enlists some Sentinels of Sebastian Shaw’s to attack the X-Men while she uses another device to switch minds with Storm. Before the X-Men defeat the Sentinels, Emma, in Storm’s body, surprises them and uses Storm’s weather powers to capture them. Ororo, meanwhile, is in Emma’s body, but she manages to gain an elementary enough mastery of Emma’s psionic powers to escape captivity, free the X-Men, and defeat the White Queen again.
In Uncanny X-Men #169, Emma is ambushed and knocked unconscious by Mastermind. She remains in the Hellfire Club for some time, her health being monitored by Sebastian Shaw. In the X-Men Annual #7, during their pursuit of the Impossible Man, the X-Men would accidentally break inside and it would be revealed that she was still recovering from this assault for some time.
As the enigmatic Selene joins the Hellfire Club as its Black Queen, Emma is revealed to be back on her feet. But both Emma and Shaw begin to mistrust Selene, and thus, Emma recruits a young mutant named Angelica Jones, who calls herself Firestar, to the Massachussets Academy in the hopes the young girl will become Selene’s assassin. Firestar ends up seeing through her machinations, and leaves the academy rather than become a killer. (Firestar #3-4)
While Emma would be absent on the night Nimrod killed Friedrich von Roehm and Harry Leland, she would be in attendance the next night when the Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club would offer membership to Magneto, in the hopes they could further strengthen the alliance that helped defeat Nimrod a night earlier. (Uncanny X-Men #210). Magneto would muse on this decision for some time, before returning to the Hellfire Club to talk to Emma and accept sometime later, despite his being admonished by Havok for doing so. (Uncanny X-Men #219). The alliance would also involve fraternization and friendly competition between both the New Mutants, and Frost’s own Hellions at a later time, (New Mutants #53, 54, Annual #4).
Eventually, after Inferno, Emma Frost would also vote with Selene and Magneto to remove Sebastian Shaw from the Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club, after Shaw challenged Magneto to a duel for not preventing Ilyana Rasputin’s role in causing Inferno. Magneto would become Grey King, but as time went by, a bitter Shaw would continue to manipulate Senator Robert Kelly into putting more government funding into making better Sentinels. While for a brief time, Emma and Selene had a rivalry that may have ruined the lives of several men in and around the Hellfire Club, like Chet Andrews (X-Men Unlimited (vol. 1) #33), things would take a turn for the worse soon thereafter.
At another Hellfire Club function, the X-Men were to meet with the Hellions when the time-traveling terrorist named Trevor Fitzroy appeared with some of Shaw’s Sentinels under his control. As one of the participants in the Upstarts’ competition, Fitzroy killed Emma’s Hellions, and his brutal assault plunged Emma into a deep coma and brought about the Hellions' untimely demise. (Uncanny X-Men #281). Whilst Emma's consciousness was still active on the material plane, her body was kept in the med-lab at the X-Men's mansion. Seeking to ensure her students' welfare and the school's future, Emma had willed responsibility for the Massachusetts Academy to Professor Charles Xavier, the X-Men's telepathic founder. During her psychic incapacitation, the school was added to the rapidly expanding Xavier Institute. While Emma’s corporeal form was in stasis, a short-circuit in the mansion inadvertently caused her psyche to possess the X-Man named Iceman, whilst his mind was transferred into her body. (Uncanny X-Men #311). Coerced by Professor X, Emma eventually reclaimed her own form. She would apparently resign her membership as White Queen of the Hellfire Club.
Life After the Hellfire Club:After making a full recovery from her injuries from Fitzroy’s attack, Emma resumed her role as headmistress of the Massachusetts Academy (Generation X #1) Ably assisted by Sean Cassidy, the sonically empowered former X-Man known as Banshee, she set out to train a new crop of young mutants: Generation X. When the sinking stock market dealt Frost International a major blow, Emma swallowed her pride and sought the help of her older sister, Adrienne, who agreed to support her sibling's flagging financial interests only if she were named co-headmaster. But Adrienne's power play did not wind down when Emma acceded to her request, nor did it end when she supplanted her sister as the Hellfire Club's White Queen. Only after Adrienne telepathically incited a riot at the school did Emma find a way to upset her ascension: the way of the gun. Emma shot and killed her sister, thereby laying claim to Adrienne's inheritance (Generation X #70).
Following the dissolution of Generation X and the closure of the Massachusetts Academy, Emma moved to the island nation of Genosha where she began teaching mutant children again. Soon after, a Sentinel attack wiped out Genosha's entire mutant population. Emma was found by the X-Men alive in the rubble, having undergone a secondary mutagenic change to form her body into diamond that allowed her to survive the onslaught. (New X-Men (vol. 1) #115-116). Following this incident, Emma came to teach at the Xavier Institute, and soon took on the responsibility of personally mentoring the telepathic quintuplets known as the Stepford Cuckoos.
Emma later counseled her teammate Cyclops following his possession by the eternal mutant warlord Apocalypse. This soon turned into a telepathic affair between the two which was short-lived after Summers' wife, Jean Grey, discovered what was happening. During the riot at the Xavier Institute, Sophie of the telepathic sisters the Stepford Cuckoos died. The remaining sisters blamed Emma for this and told Jean Grey-Summers of Emma's affair with her husband. (New X-Men (vol. 1) #120, 126, 134-138)
When Emma was confronted by Jean, she was forced to relive various moments of her past (New X-Men (vol. 1) #139).
Following this confrontation, Emma was shot with a diamond bullet whilst in her diamond form, shattering it. Though she was believed to be dead at first, Emma's consciousness was trapped in her shattered remains. Phoenix discovered this and telekinetically fused Emma's body back together. Upon being reassembled, Emma identified Esme of the Cuckoos as the culprit behind her assassination (New X-Men (vol. 1) #140-141). However, Esme was working with the X-Man Xorn, and they went on a mass murder spree of humans in New York that would result in the death of Emma’s second Stepford Cuckoo, leaving only three ((New X-Men (vol. 1) #147-150).
Following the death of Jean Grey at the hands of Xorn, Emma has assumed the position of co-headmaster of the Xavier Institute alongside Cyclops, who she remains romantically attached to. During "Messiah CompleX" she at one point, with her concentration about her, managed to simultaneiously psionically block out all the Marauders and Acolytes combined, including Mr. Sinister and Exodus (X-Men (vol. 2) #205), and would distract Exodus telepathically in a later battle so that Dust could fill up his lungs and make him pass out (X-Men (vol. 2) #207).
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What did you think of Emma Frost as a member of the Hellfire Club? Do you like her better as a hero, anti-hero, or villain? Any other thoughts?
Jack Flash
05-08-2008, 11:03 AM
while I like Emma. She's not Cordelia.
Those pictures are totally atrocious though WBE.
LOL.
Frost Family: Cordelia>Christian>Emma>Adrienne>Mommy>Daddy
worstblogever
05-08-2008, 11:06 AM
while I like Emma. She's not Cordelia.
Those pictures are totally atrocious though WBE.
LOL.
Frost Family: Cordelia>Christian>Emma>Adrienne>Mommy>Daddy
I used my best discretion in picking out pictures of Ms. Frost. :wink:
Jack Flash
05-08-2008, 11:11 AM
the first pic is of Gambit in drag. Ma Chere indeed.
worstblogever
05-08-2008, 11:14 AM
the first pic is of Gambit in drag. Ma Chere indeed.
Rogue likes it like that.
DeniseXfrost
05-08-2008, 08:30 PM
And for the record... Adrienne's boob job looks even more fake than Emma's. Especially in that lower picture.
I agree and her custom looked taggy.
Frost Family: Cordelia>Christian>Emma>Adrienne>Mommy>Daddy
FAIL!
Emma>Adrienne>Everyone else (mainly cuz of that one scene where she shot Adrienne in the head, that was hardcore)
Jack Flash
05-08-2008, 08:31 PM
FAIL!
Emma>Adrienne>Everyone else (mainly cuz of that one scene where she shot Adrienne in the head, that was hardcore)
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
DeniseXfrost
05-08-2008, 08:34 PM
Actually, it goes like this
Emma>Adrienne>Everyone else>The cuckoos.
worstblogever
05-09-2008, 01:40 AM
Our first entry here on May 9th... and twentieth overall is...
Dr. Graves –
Employee of Shinobi Shaw and Hellfire Club II
First appearance: X-Force (vol. 1) #62.
Last appearance: X-Force (vol. 1) #62.
All Hellfire Appearances: X-Force (vol. 1) #62.
Powers: Baseline Human
His Life Before working for the Hellfire Club: Unknown, had to study science at a university somewhere, even if he was a terrible scientist.
His Time Working for Shinobi Shaw:
Dr. Graves was hired by Shinobi Shaw to invent a machine that would turn mutants into ordinary humans. Shinobi wanted it as a countermeasure in case his father should return, to use it against him. Graves showed little remorse or humanity, actually running several experiments and tests of his machine using Leong and Nga Coy Manh, the brother and sister of the New Mutant Karma, as guinea pigs, despite the fact they were only children.
Dr. Graves’ last test for his machine, was going to be upon Shaw’s own disloyal mercernary guard Clearcut. However, before they began testing on him, the machine confirmed prior to testing that Clearcut was already only a human anyway. As X-Force and Clearcut began to overrun the hidden laboratory, Shinobi Shaw got tired of Dr. Graves’ failures, and used his powers to phase through his throat, and then reform, killing him.
What did you think of Dr. Graves? Was he actually close to making his machine work, or was he just another mad scientist kook who had no idea what he was doing? Would you have liked to see him as a resource of the Hellfire Club more often?
Jack Flash
05-09-2008, 08:30 AM
Actually, it goes like this
Emma>Adrienne>Everyone else>The cuckoos.
Boooooooooooo Still. Cordelia and Christian own their fake blong siblings! Gay and Rebel trump determined and Pretty!
"To me, coming from you, Friend is a four letter word, end is the only part of the word, that you heard."
worstblogever
05-09-2008, 02:42 PM
Our second entry on May 9th, and twenty-first overall is...
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Phoenix II/Jean Grey/Phoenix Force -
Black Queen of Hellfire Club I
(this Phoenix was a duplicated body of Jean Grey, with some of her life-force, empowered by the Phoenix Force)
First appearance: Uncanny X-Men #101
First Hellfire appearance: Uncanny X-Men #132
Last appearance: Uncanny X-Men #137
All Hellfire appearances: Uncanny X-Men #132-134
Powers: Cosmic entity representing the flow of all life in the universe in possession of a human body with psionic abilities, so that she/it has absolute power over thought, can manipulate matter at a molecular scale, fly unaided through outer space, absorb energy on a incalculable level, and open stargates between points in space.
Life Prior to the Hellfire Club: (Keep in mind, Jean fans, I’m explaining this as best I can, be kind)
The Phoenix Force is an immortal and mutable manifestation of the prime universal force of life. Born of the void between states of being, the Phoenix Force is a child of the universe. It is the nexus of all psionic energy which does, has, and ever will exist in all realities of the omniverse, the Guardian of Creation, and a de-facto guardian of the M’Kraan Crystal. The Phoenix is among the most feared beings in the entire existence - having the power to cut and re-grow any part of the universe, as well as destroy it entirely, which is part of the Phoenix's purpose: "The Judgment of the Phoenix", to burn away the obsolete. The Phoenix Force is described as being "the embodiment of the very passion of Creation – the spark that gave life to the Universe, the flame that will ultimately consume it."
During its time as a sentient entity, it traveled the cosmos just like other cosmic beings. At first, the Phoenix Force was a formless mass of energy, but thousands of years ago, it came to Earth, and met a magician named Feron (who worshipped the legendary Phoenix) and his daydream-like visions prompted the Phoenix to adopt the firebird form it has today. He asked the Phoenix to help him by lending its energy to project a stone pillar (which resembled a lighthouse) across the multiverse. The pillar became the lighthouse base for the British super-team Excalibur (a team its future host Rachel Grey/Summers herself would join). Afterwards, Feron was attacked by Necrom in an attempt to steal the power of the Phoenix. Feron, strengthened by the Phoenix Force, was able to fight back but Necrom was able to steal a fraction of the Phoenix's essence forcing it to flee back to space in agonized confusion. The Phoenix Force returned to Earth when it felt the mind of a human transcend the physical realm, a mind that resonated with the Phoenix's energy. A young Jean Grey had telepathically linked her mind to her dying friend, Annie Richards, to keep Annie's soul from moving to the afterlife. In doing so, Jean's mind was being dragged along to the "other side" with Annie. Phoenix lent its energy to break the connection, and kept close watch on young Jean, as it felt a kinship with the young mutant. Years later when Jean was dying on a space shuttle, her mind called out for help and the Phoenix Force answered and saved her, transforming Jean into the Phoenix.
Her time with the Hellfire Club:
As originally written, the Jean Grey incarnation of the Phoenix was not a separate cosmic entity, but Jean herself, having attained her ultimate potential as a psychic, only to become slowly corrupted by the Hellfire Club’s members Mastermind and Emma Frost (Uncanny X-Men #122, 125, 126) and brought into the fold of the Club. Mastermind made Jean/Phoenix believe she was daydreaming actual events, and the reality was that she was the paramour of Jason Wyngarde back in 18th century England, at one point kissing Mastermind in a nightclub in front of Cyclops (Uncanny X-Men #130). While prior to her official initiation, Jean/Phoenix would defeat Emma Frost in psychic combat that would cause a building to collapse, and leave the White Queen trapped in its rubble (Uncanny X-Men #131), the worst was still to come.
Mastermind nearly had complete control over the Phoenix, and used her to help the Hellfire Club defeat the X-Men in battle, where the Inner Circle would declare her the new Black Queen. (Uncanny X-Men #132). Only because of the apparent death of Cyclops from his confrontation with Mastermind on the Astral Plane and her psychic rapport with him, does Jean/Phoenix become overwhelmed by her enormous power. Jean is driven mad and becomes Dark Phoenix, making Mastermind aware of too much of the cosmos and putting him in a catatonic stupor before leaving the Hellfire Club to again engage the X-Men in conflict.
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Her Life after the Hellfire Club:
After facing the X-Men in battle in Central Park, Jean/Dark Phoenix destroyed the D’Bari star system, populated by sentient creatures by eating the sun of that planet's solar system to satisfy her "hunger" (Uncanny X-Men #135). She subsequently died committing suicide on the Blue Area of Earth's moon after battling the Shi’ar Royal Guard in a trial by combat (Uncanny X-Men #137).
In order to return Jean to the fold several years later, this storyline was retconned to reveal the existence of the cosmic Phoenix Force entity, which had created a duplicate body of Jean, believed itself to be Jean, and acted in her place while the real Jean lay in a coma in the ocean. This let Jean be revived as a member of X-Factor. The extent to which the duplicate and Jean are separate entities depends on who is writing the character(s) at the time.
Part of the Phoenix Force joined with Jean's clone, Madelyne Pryor, until she also committed suicide during “Inferno” and the Phoenix consciousness rejoined with the awakened Jean. Another possessor of the Phoenix Force is Rachel Summers, Jean's daughter from the “Days of Future Past” alternate future. The Phoenix Force accepted her as a host, allowing her to use limited amounts of its immense powers to enhance her own.
During the mini-series X-Men:Phoenix Endsong, the Phoenix Force returned to Earth and resurrected Jean Grey from her grave. Through a number of incidents, including Jean having Wolverine kill her a number of times, Jean trapping herself in a glacier, the Phoenix Force jumping into Emma Frost, and parts of the X-Men being trapped in a Shi'ar-generated event horizon, Jean Grey managed to assert herself and gain control of the Phoenix Force and rescue everyone from the event horizon. Jean then declares that she and the Phoenix force are truly one entity now, have transcended into the White Phoenix of the Crown. Unfortunately, as a result of a Shi'ar attack on the Phoenix Force, it is currently in an incomplete state and Jean must now search out the remaining parts of the Phoenix Force. The consequences of this were partially addressed in X-Men: Phoenix-Warsong in which a small part of the Phoenix Force joined with the Stepford Cuckoos. After nearly losing control to the Phoenix power, the Stepford Cuckoos developed a secondary mutation, in which their hearts turned to diamond and they were able to imprison the piece of the Phoenix Force.
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What did you think of Jean Grey’s turn as Black Queen of the Hellfire Club? Would you hate it if I neglected to ask you if you hope she comes back? Well, fine. Do you hope Jean Grey/Phoenix comes back?
HellFrost
05-09-2008, 05:54 PM
Is Cordelia really an empath?!?!?
darknessatnoon
05-09-2008, 06:22 PM
You should explain why Madelyne committed suicide!
It was the shock of learning she was Jean Grey. It must have been horrible.
worstblogever
05-09-2008, 06:47 PM
Is Cordelia really an empath?!?!?
Supposedly. Emma herself referred to her as "the Charles Xavier of empaths"
and she used said power to dupe the original Mondo.
Don't ask me why Cordelia Frost never used this power again, though, to against many others. It apparently didn't work on Mondo or Black Tom later, or Juggernaut, as they all had defenses against psionic meddling in one form or another.
Jack Flash
05-09-2008, 09:06 PM
Is Cordelia really an empath?!?!?
Oui!!!!!!!!!!!!! She could totally crush the Hellion known as Empath.
HellFrost
05-09-2008, 10:00 PM
Supposedly. Emma herself referred to her as "the Charles Xavier of empaths"
and she used said power to dupe the original Mondo.
Don't ask me why Cordelia Frost never used this power again, though, to against many others. It apparently didn't work on Mondo or Black Tom later, or Juggernaut, as they all had defenses against psionic meddling in one form or another.
But when did this happen?!?!?!? I have read the series about 3 times and I have never ever read seen this! I am a failure as an Emma fan..........
worstblogever
05-09-2008, 10:17 PM
But when did this happen?!?!?!? I have read the series about 3 times and I have never ever read seen this! I am a failure as an Emma fan..........
Well, considering she only appeared in a few issues of Gen X... it seems more likely that it might be the Generation X 1995 annual... I'm betting that might be what you missed. But other than that I think she was only in Gen X #3, and #60, 61. From comicbookdb.com :
Powers:
At first not much was known about Cordelia's powers other than the fact she and her sisters all have passive psionic powers and that she is immune to Emma's telepathy. This immunity is due to her sibling status, much like Cyclops and Havok. She was revealed later to be an empath. She used her powers for the first time in the form of mind control during Generation X; Here Cordelia was able to create personalities that possess her victims' mind. In this way, she controlled the mutant Mondo. She would often use this to her own advantage and soon discovered that she could implant emotional states into others' minds. This ability could make an enemy think they were blind, or that they were talking to someone else instead of Cordelia. She later received an enhancement of her power in the form of psionic blasts. Though she couldn't control it at first, Cordelia learned to use her psionic blast as an offensive weapon, to render opponents unconscious or to erase memories.
In Generation X, Emma stated that Cordelia is the "Professor X of the empaths" and may be the most powerful empath on the planet, easily able to overpower people with the same gift. However, she has no formal training in using her power and thus her skills are only based on her own experience and skill. Despite her apparent skill, her lack of training comes as a drawback, since Cordelia isn't able to control "strong" mutants. But whereas most empaths, even powerful ones, have a range that is within their immediate vicinity, Cordelia has one that could easily manipulate an entire city without reaching her range limitations.
Think of that what you will.
HellFrost
05-09-2008, 10:56 PM
Well, considering she only appeared in a few issues of Gen X... it seems more likely that it might be the Generation X 1995 annual... I'm betting that might be what you missed. But other than that I think she was only in Gen X #3, and #60, 61. From comicbookdb.com :
Think of that what you will.
See, I read all those issues and just went back to re-read and skim through the annual, but there is never a panel of Emma stating that Cordy is the "Xavier or all empaths..." It's really really frustrating. I'm only obsessing about this because I like to think I'm an authority on the Frost family and basically... all things Emma, so the fact that I've seen this stated in several different places but any of the actual issues is really bothering me.
worstblogever
05-10-2008, 07:19 AM
See, I read all those issues and just went back to re-read and skim through the annual, but there is never a panel of Emma stating that Cordy is the "Xavier or all empaths..." It's really really frustrating. I'm only obsessing about this because I like to think I'm an authority on the Frost family and basically... all things Emma, so the fact that I've seen this stated in several different places but any of the actual issues is really bothering me.
To be honest, me too. It's on her wiki, which I didn't trust. But it's on comicbookdb, too, who usually do a better job of referencing this kind of thing. I didn't see it on Uncanny X-Men. net's profile of her, and she doesn't even have a profile on Marvel.com or the Marvel Unofficial Appendix.
Which leaves this one debatable, at the moment.
worstblogever
05-10-2008, 07:54 AM
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Sam Guthrie, Cannonball –
Recruit of Donald Pierce, (possible Hellfire Club member)
First Appearance: Marvel Graphic Novel #4
Hellfire Appearances: Debatable, but possibly Marvel Graphic Novel #4.
Last Appearance: X-Men: Divided We Stand #1.
Powers: generate thermochemical energy as a blast field, which can act as propulsion, bio-kinetic blasts, a protective force shield, and a containment field around his opponent, or absorb kinetic energy to create shockwaves or supercharge the force behind his punches.
His life prior to knowing about the Hellfire Club: Sam Guthrie was born in Cumberland, Kentucky. As a young boy, he attempted to help out his family, by working in a coal mine, after the death of his father. Given the dangerous nature of this work, Sam found himself trapped in a collapsing mine shaft. While trying to rescue his fellow worker, a friend of his father's who had introduced him to the job, Sam subconsciously activated his mutant ability and used it to escape with him.
His debatable time as a member of the Hellfire Club/Reavers: This incident led to Sam being found by Donald Pierce, who used him in a plot to attack the New Mutants. At the time, most believe Pierce was on the outs with the Hellfire Club, however, he had several Hellfire Club guards in full uniform with him (many of whom would become the Reavers), and after recruiting Sam, even gave him a Hellfire Club Guard’s uniform. Sam eventually would come to his senses after Pierce ordered him to execute Professor Xavier, Tessa, Moonstar, Rahne, Sunspot, and Karma, and his refusal to do so made Pierce not only terminate his employment, but try to kill him. Thus ended his brief tenure as a Reaver/Hellfire Club Guard.
worstblogever
05-10-2008, 07:56 AM
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His Life Since: Professor Charles Xavier saw the good qualities inside Sam and asked him to join his New Mutants. Cannonball left his large farming family in Kentucky to join the team. In later years, several other Guthrie kids would be revealed to be mutants, including the future X-Man Husk. The New Mutants were granted their own monthly series and Cannonball remained with the team for its entire existence, forming close friendships with his teammates, Sunspot and Wolfsbane. He also worked well with other teammates, including Magik, Karma, Douglas Ramsey, Moonstar, Magma and Warlock.
Cannonball later saves the life of international rockstar Lila Cheney, whom he became romantically involved with (New Mutants (vol. 1) Annual #1). Due to the nature of Lila's career, their relationship went slowly. Cannonball helped lead the team through many adventures, which took them across time and space, from ancient Scotland to other galaxies, even back home to Kentucky (New Mutants (vol. 1) #42). There, he teams up with long-time X-Man Dazzler and his own brother Jay to save Lila's life.
The New Mutants eventually found themselves under the guidance of Magento at the behest of Professor Xavier. Magneto's heavy handed leadership did not sit well with the team, and Cannonball began to display a measure of independence and rebellion against authority. These traits would grow stronger as he matured. For a time they go with Emma Frost, to her Massachusetts Academy. They eventually recover from the trauma, especially after a fight with the Avengers, in which they are forced to rescue Warlock and Magneto. Defying Magneto, the team sneaks out to another Lila Cheney concert. They are swept up in a kidnapping of Lila and dealings with the powerful entity known as Gosamyr. In preventing Gosamyr's relatives from endangering innocent lives, Lila seemingly dies.
Returning to earth, the team caught in the events of Inferno. They team up with the X-Terminators who would eventually merge into their team. They help neutralize the demonic invasion plan by rescuing kidnapped infants high above New York city. One of the new members, Boom Boom, soon became a primary romantic interest. The New Mutants fight the Hellfire Club on the remains of the X-Mansion, formally rejecting Magneto's leadership. (New Mutants (vol. 1) #87)
Cannonball and the other New Mutants left the X-Men's supervision and joined forces with the mysterious Cable to become the hard-edged X-Force. Cable named Cannonball Second-In-Command and field leader of the team. It was early during this time that Sam was impaled and killed by the mutant Sauron during a clash with an incarnation of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. However, only a few minutes later, he had healed and returned to life (X-Force (vol. 1) #7-9). Cable revealed the he had chosen Sam to lead the New Mutants initially because he suspected Cannonball to be an External - a particularly rare type of mutant who is virtually immortal. Cable had come to train Sam to fight Apocalypse, another External who, in Cable's future time, had conquered the world. Many other Externals, such as Saul and Gideon, also came to believe Sam was one of them. It was also around this time that Sam's sister, Husk, was revealed to have mutant powers. Though Cable did not stay with the team consistently, he and Sam developed a deep father-son type relationship. Cannonball's existence as an External was disputed by Selene, who once claimed that he was not an External. However, she is not a particularly trustworthy source and no alternate explanation has been given for his surviving the wounds Sauron had inflicted. His immortality was recently brought up as the reason he survived 3 gunshot wounds to the chest in New X-Men (vol. 2) #28, so his status as an External hasn't been completely forgotten by Marvel writers.
In the mid 1990s, X-Force re-established ties with the X-Men and Cannonball accepted an offer to join the latter team (X-Force (vol. 1) #44). Initially, Sam was excited to join the X-Men, this having been his dream since first arriving at Xavier's school. During this time, he was also a supporting character in Wolverine's own comic. Cannonball seemed to regress during this period, acting unsure of himself and his abilities. He played the role of the inexperienced rookie of the X-Men, despite the fact that he had been training under Xavier and Cable for many years and had been the team leader of the New Mutants and X-Force, when their mentors were absent. He battled the head of the Shi'ar Imperial Guard, Gladiator (Shi'ar) to a standstill (Uncanny X-Men #341), despite being overpowered, thus facing his doubts about his abilities, only to be left behind as the rest of the X-Men were taken into space to save the Shi'ar empire.
During his time with X-Men, Cannonball found his relationship with Tabitha strained. It was so strained she turned to Sam's best friend, Sunspot, for "support". Sam returned to the X-Men, for a brief period until he left the team to help his ailing mother. During his time with the X-Men, he also infiltrated the presidential campaign of anti-mutant candidate Graydon Creed, using the alias "Samson Guthry". Despite the rather transparent alias, Sam was able to remain undetected until Creed was assassinated on the eve of the election. (Uncanny X-Men #338-340)
Cannonball rejoined X-Force, now independent of Cable and operating in San Francisco. Cannonball eventually became team leader again, after the injuries to Siryn's throat sustained at the hands of Feral made her unable to be team leader (X-Force (vol. 1) #90). The team eventually found a new mentor, by the name of Peter Wisdom, who introduced the team to the world of espionage. During this time, Sam and Tabitha had gotten back together. After Wisdom's alleged death, Sam led the team again and attempted to continue Wisdom's crusade (X-Force (vol. 1) #94-96, 106-109).
After X-Force faked their deaths and dissolved, Cannonball joined several of his former teammates and former members of X-Force and Generation X, in the Paris, France branch, of Professor X's international mutant task force X-Corporation. His time with the X-Corporation wasn't a pleasant one. Enroute to a mission, later found to involve the Weapon Plus program, his teammate Darkstar poked fun at him for eating a sandwich that would have rather distasteful consequences for "everybody who went out without an umbrella in downtown Beauvais." This moment of levity at Cannonball's expense did not last, as on that same mission, Darkstar died. At the funeral of Darkstar, Xavier gave Cannonball a note, with the whereabouts of Lila Cheney. Sam decided to take time away from the X-Corporation, as the strain of his life began to get to him. He worked for a time cleaning up damages to the France-England tunnel, AKA the Chunnel, which was partially destroyed in the very same mission which killed Darkstar (New X-Men (vol. 1) #129-130)..
Sam couldn't find peace with his life so he was asked by Storm to join her X-Treme X-Men, a group of X-Men operating outside of Professor X's leadership. For a time, he even was partnered with his old friend Wolverine during an adventure where they pursued long time X-Man foe William Stryker. Sam also found himself having a reunion of sorts with former teammates, Sunspot and Magma.
He and his teammates rejoined the central X-Men, after the events of Planet X. Sam became injured on a mission and once again decided to break for some peace. He used the time to work on his own farm, which he had bought with his X-Corporation paychecks. While on the farm, Sam found himself teaming up again with Cable and reformed X-Force against the threat of the Skornn. (X-Force (vol. 2) #1-6).
Cannonball was last serving on Rogue's team of X-Men. After defeating the Children of the Vault, Rogue announced the departure of her team from the mansion. Sam explained his personal feelings about leaving to Cyclops, saying that he felt he needed to leave because his brother Jay's death and said that every time he walks through the door, he felt he was stepping on Jay's grave. The team then tries to relocate to Mystique's old home, but are betrayed and attacked by the Marauders. After the surprise blitz, Emma Frost, who lies paralyzed, uploads everything she picked out of what was at the edges if the Marauder's psi-shielding, takes limited possession over Sam's body, causing him to flee (unwillingly) from the battle with a temporarily de-powered Iceman. (X-Men (vol. 2) #200) Aboard the Blackbird, the two are engaged in midair by Sunfire, who cripples the jet. Cannonball manages to escape and battle Shiro, defeating him. He would later try to recover Destiny’s true diaries with Iceman from Flint, Michigan against the whole team of Marauders and Mr. Sinister. Sinister would psionically attempt to mindwipe Cannonball in this conflict, and he would sustain several severe internal injuries right afterwards from blasting around without his blast field fully in place (X-Men vol. 2) #203).
He was last seen returning to his hometown in Kentucky, only to quickly leave town, unsure of what to do next, but admitting to himself he only feels comfortable anymore when things aren’t calm. (X-Men: Divided We Stand #1)
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What do you think of Cannonball as a member of the Hellfire Club? Should his brief stint working for Donald Pierce make him a member, like the Marvel Database has him listed as? Or was he just a Reaver recruit? Would he in any way make an interesting member of the Hellfire Club?
worstblogever
05-10-2008, 12:24 PM
And now, on the second half of our entries for May 10th... we're going to look at every named Hellfire Club Guard, EVER. (this wasn't an easy one to research)
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Chet Andrews-
Hellfire Club Soldier
First appearance: X-Men Unlimited (vol. 1) #33.
Last appearance: X-Men Unlimited (vol. 1) #33.
All Hellfire Appearances: X-Men Unlimited (vol. 1) #33.
Powers: Baseline Human
His Life Before the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His Time With the Hellfire Club: Chet Andrews was a normal Hellfire Club soldier until Emma Frost and Selene decided that he would be the focal point of a game between the two of them. Emma bet Selene she couldn’t get him to say she loved him before her. They both began showing Chet secret Hellfire Club locations, and granting him special privileges within the Hellfire Club that other members and soldiers did not have. Chet began to scheme that he would play both women until he’d have the means to take over the world. However, in time, both Emma and Selene would take the kid gloves off, and use their powers to convince Chet to settle their bet. Emma tried using her mental powers to dominate him into saying he loved her at the same time Selene used all of her mystical powers to do the same at a dinner Chet had invited them both to. The stress of having his will pulled in two directions proved too taxing on Chet’s mind and body, and he actually exploded on the spot. Emma and Selene never did find out who would have won the bet, but all the same, went back about their business as if the whole sordid affair had never happened, or never ended with the death of Chet.
Art –
Hellfire Club Guard
First appearance: New Mutants (vol. 1) #16
Hellfire Club Appearances: New Mutants (vol. 1) #16
Last Appearance: New Mutants (vol. 1) #16
Powers: Baseline Human
His life before the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His life with the Hellfire Club: In his lone appearance with the Hellfire Club, Gilbert is held out of combat by the White Queen, who’d rather try out her Hellions against the New Mutants. Doesn’t say much for Art’s fighting prowess, that a bunch of kids got all the action.
Castro –
Hellfire Club Soldier
First appearance: New Mutants #8
Hellfire Club Appearances: New Mutants #8
Last Appearance: New Mutants #8
Powers: Baseline Human
His life prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His time with the Hellfire Club: Castro’s one mission of note was to sabotage and hinder the New Mutants on their mission in the Amazon, without harming Nina DaCosta or Sunspot, in particular. He attempted to throw a bucket of chum in the water of the Amazon while Moonstar was swimming in it, hoping she would be eaten by frenzied piranha, but Cannonball saved her before this happened. He was chased off into the rainforest, never to be seen again, by Wolfsbane, once she took on her wolf form, after he was seen slapping native girls to try and gain information about the Maderia.
Clam –
Hellfire Club Guard
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First appearance: Uncanny X-Men #131
Hellfire Club Appearances: Uncanny X-Men #131
Last Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #131
Powers: Baseline Human
His life prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His life with the Hellfire Club: Clam worked the Hellfire Club at the time when Phoenix II defeated the White Queen in New York City. It is not known if he survived the X-Men’s attacks on the club at those times.
Randall Chase –
Hellfire Club Soldier
First appearance: Firestar # 1
Last appearance: Firestar # 4
All Hellfire Appearances: Firestar # 1-4
Powers: Baseline Human
His Life Before the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His Life as a Hellfire Club Soldier:
Randall Chase was originally a bodyguard for Emma Frost, but after she recruited Angelica Jones, Firestar, to the Massachusetts Academy, she assigned him specifically to Firestar. As the White Queen began orchestrating events to convince Angelica she couldn’t control her powers, Chase began to become suspicious that the mishaps weren’t the girl’s faults, but her headmistress’. Before Chase could warn Firestar, though, Emma’s other mercenaries killed him and tried to frame Selene for the crime, so that Angelica would in turn try and assassinate the Black Queen.
worstblogever
05-10-2008, 12:32 PM
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Wade Cole –
Former Hellfire Club Guard, and current Reaver
First appearance: Uncanny X-Men #133
Hellfire Club Appearances: Uncanny X-Men #133, 152, Marvel Graphic Novel #4
Last Appearance: X-Treme X-Men Annual 2001.
Powers: Human Cyborg
His life prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His time with the Hellfire Club: Wade Cole was an unassuming Hellfire Club Guard, who would be present on the night the Inner Circle initiated Jean Grey as their Black Queen, and defeated the X-Men. Later that evening, however, his fortunes would change. Harry Leland had caused Wolverine to fall through the floor of the Hellfire Club with his powers, and into the sewers below. When a lone Wolverine came back for his teammates, he viciously wounded several Hellfire Club guards upon his return, among them Wade Cole. (Uncanny X-Men #133)
The next time Cole was seen was in Uncanny X-Men #152, where he and several of the guards who were wounded and should have died tell Wolverine that they’ve been augmented to match his strength, and they savagely beat him to gain some measure of revenge as Emma Frost’s plan to defeat the X-Men by using a device to switch bodies with Storm, and get Kitty Pryde’s parents to send her to her Massachusetts Academy is executed. Again, in the long run, the Club would be defeated.
Cole turned up again as one of Donald Pierce’s personal guard during his attack on Professor X, Tessa, and the New Mutants in Marvel Graphic Novel #4. Some would say his tenure with the club was already over, though, and he had already become part of Pierce’s own splinter group outside of it.
His life after the Hellfire Club:
Whatever procedures Cole had already undergone to equal Wolverine in strength back in Uncanny X-Men #152, the next time he’s seen in Uncanny X-Men #205, he’s sacrificed even more of his humanity, heading to Spiral’s Body Shop to gain several cybernetic implants and join up with Lady Deathstrike and his comrades Reese and Macon to get revenge on Wolverine. At this time, he states that once Wolverine is dead, he’s planning on reversing the procedure. However, they are unsuccessful.
The next time Cole appears, he and his two compatriots have joined up with Donald Pierce’s Reavers. (Uncanny X-Men #248-253). They manage to capture Wolverine at the X-Men’s headquarters in the Outback, and literally crucify him. Wolverine sits for days, tortured, before he is finally rescued by Jubilee. The Reavers go on to attack Muir Island, thinking Wolverine will be there, and Cole managed to shoot Banshee with a sniper rifle, albeit not fatally. (Uncanny X-Men #254). The Reavers on that day, though, would be routed once Freedom Force arrived to assist the Muir Island X-Men. (Uncanny X-Men #255).
Cole would appear again a short time later with the Reavers and Lady Deathstrike in California, raiding a storage facility of Emma Frost, and leaving a message that the Reavers wouldn’t stop until they found her. (Uncanny X-Men #262). While whatever vendetta this might have been over, Cole would appear again in Uncanny X-Men #269, with the Reavers inside the X-Men’s old Outback base, their new headquarters. He would be part of a contingent that would, if only for a few moments, capture a seemingly depowered Rogue.
It would be much later, that Wade Cole would turn up as part of the contingent of Reavers who would attack the X-Treme X-Men team under the command of Donald Pierce in the X-Treme X-Men Annual 2001, only to be incarcerated by Australian authorities. It is unknown if Cole was a part of the group of new Reavers under the command of Lady Deathstrike that attacked Cable, the new mutant birth, and the X-Men in Alaska during Messiah CompleX on behalf of the Purifiers, however.
Denny the Bouncer –
Hellfire Club Guard
First Appearance: X-Men: Deadly Genesis #5.
All Hellfire Appearances: X-Men: Deadly Genesis #5.
Last Appearance: X-Men: Deadly Genesis #5.
Powers: Baseline Human
His life prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His time with the Hellfire Club: Denny the Bouncer was… well, a bouncer. He worked the door at the Hellfire Club when Emma Frost was first working there as an exotic dancer. Charles Xavier came to attempt to recruit her, and after she turned him away, Charles let her know telepathically that the Hellfire Club already knew she was a mutant, even though Emma wanted to keep it a secret. When she started to run after him, Denny the Bouncer did his job, and told Emma to get back inside and get back to dancing around the pole. He hasn’t been shown since.
Diaz –
Hellfire Club Guard
First Appearance: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Hellfire Club Appearances: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Last Appearance: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Powers: Baseline Human
His life before the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His life with the Hellfire Club: Diaz was one of four Hellfire Guard members tasked with trying to recover lost technology of Shaw Industries, namely that of Aaron Stack, Machine Man. They failed, when X-51 used his computer systems to jack into the same frequency their suit’s weapon systems operated on, and made them fire on each other.
Gilbert –
Hellfire Club Guard
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First appearance: New Mutants (vol. 1) #16
Hellfire Club Appearances: New Mutants (vol. 1) #16
Last Appearance: New Mutants (vol. 1) #16
Powers: Baseline Human
His life before the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His life with the Hellfire Club: In his lone appearance with the Hellfire Club, Gilbert is held out of combat by the White Queen, who’d rather try out her Hellions against the New Mutants. Doesn’t say much for Gilbert’s fighting prowess, that a bunch of kids got all the action.
Harvey –
Hellfire Club Guard
First Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #151
Hellfire Club Appearances: Uncanny X-Men #151
Last Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #151
Powers: Baseline Human
His Life Prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His life with the Hellfire Club: Harvey was the named guard of the two left to watch over Storm, trapped in Emma Frost’s body, when the White Queen had swapped bodies with herself and the weather controlling X-Man. Considering she escaped… he probably is still being punished in a dungeon somewhere.
Jacko –
Hellfire Club Guard
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First appearance: Uncanny X-Men #131
Hellfire Club Appearances: Uncanny X-Men #131
Last Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #131
Powers: Baseline Human
His life prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His life with the Hellfire Club: Jacko worked the Hellfire Club at the time when Phoenix II defeated the White Queen in New York City. It is not known if he survived the X-Men’s attacks on the club at those times.
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05-10-2008, 12:37 PM
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Angelo Macon –
Former Hellfire Club Guard, and current Reaver
First appearance: Uncanny X-Men #133
Hellfire Club Appearances: Uncanny X-Men #133, 152, Marvel Graphic Novel #4
Last Appearance: X-Treme X-Men Annual 2001.
Powers: Human Cyborg
His life prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His time with the Hellfire Club: Angelo Macon was an unassuming Hellfire Club Guard, who would be present on the night the Inner Circle initiated Jean Grey as their Black Queen, and defeated the X-Men. Later that evening, however, his fortunes would change. Harry Leland had caused Wolverine to fall through the floor of the Hellfire Club with his powers, and into the sewers below. When a lone Wolverine came back for his teammates, he viciously wounded several Hellfire Club guards upon his return, among them Macon. (Uncanny X-Men #133)
The next time Cole was seen was in Uncanny X-Men #152, where he and several of the guards who were wounded and should have died tell Wolverine that they’ve been augmented to match his strength, and they savagely beat him to gain some measure of revenge as Emma Frost’s plan to defeat the X-Men by using a device to switch bodies with Storm, and get Kitty Pryde’s parents to send her to her Massachusetts Academy is executed. Again, in the long run, the Club would be defeated.
Macon turned up again as one of Donald Pierce’s personal guard during his attack on Professor X, Tessa, and the New Mutants in Marvel Graphic Novel #4. Some would say his tenure with the club was already over, though, and he had already become part of Pierce’s own splinter group outside of it.
His life after the Hellfire Club:
Whatever procedures Macon had already undergone to equal Wolverine in strength back in Uncanny X-Men #152, the next time he’s seen in Uncanny X-Men #205, he’s sacrificed even more of his humanity, heading to Spiral’s Body Shop to gain several cybernetic implants and join up with Lady Deathstrike and his comrades Reese and Cole to get revenge on Wolverine. At this time, he states that once Wolverine is dead, he’s planning on reversing the procedure. However, they are unsuccessful.
The next time Angelo Macon appears, he and his two compatriots have joined up with Donald Pierce’s Reavers. (Uncanny X-Men #248-253). They manage to capture Wolverine at the X-Men’s headquarters in the Outback, and literally crucify him. Wolverine sits for days, tortured, before he is finally rescued by Jubilee. The Reavers then go to attack Muir Island, thinking Wolverine will have retreated there, where they inflict several fatalities on Moira MacTaggart’s X-Men team that was operating out of there. (Uncanny X-Men #254). The Reavers on that day, though, would be routed once Freedom Force arrived to assist the Muir Island X-Men. (Uncanny X-Men #255).
Macon would resurface again a short time later with the Reavers and Lady Deathstrike in California, raiding a storage facility of Emma Frost, and leaving a message that the Reavers wouldn’t stop until they found her. (Uncanny X-Men #262). While whatever vendetta this might have been over, Macon would show up again in Uncanny X-Men #269, with the Reavers inside the X-Men’s old Outback base, their new headquarters. He would be part of a contingent that would, if only for a few moments, capture a seemingly depowered Rogue.
It would be much later, that Wade Cole would turn up as part of the contingent of Reavers who would attack the X-Treme X-Men team under the command of Donald Pierce in the X-Treme X-Men Annual 2001, only to be incarcerated by Australian authorities. It is unknown if Macon was a part of the group of new Reavers under the command of Lady Deathstrike that attacked Cable, the new mutant birth, and the X-Men in Alaska during Messiah CompleX on behalf of the Purifiers, however.
McCord –
Hellfire Club Guard
First Appearance: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Hellfire Club Appearances: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Last Appearance: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Powers: Baseline Human
His life before the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His life with the Hellfire Club: McCord was one of four Hellfire Guard members tasked with trying to recover lost technology of Shaw Industries, namely that of Aaron Stack, Machine Man. They failed, when X-51 used his computer systems to jack into the same frequency their suit’s weapon systems operated on, and made them fire on each other.
Murray Reese –
Former Hellfire Club Guard, and current Reaver
First appearance: Uncanny X-Men #133
Hellfire Club Appearances: Uncanny X-Men #133, 152, Marvel Graphic Novel #4
Last Appearance: X-Treme X-Men Annual 2001.
Powers: Human Cyborg
His life prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His time with the Hellfire Club: Murray Reese was an unassuming Hellfire Club Guard, who would be present on the night the Inner Circle initiated Jean Grey as their Black Queen, and defeated the X-Men. Later that evening, however, his fortunes would change. Harry Leland had caused Wolverine to fall through the floor of the Hellfire Club with his powers, and into the sewers below. When a lone Wolverine came back for his teammates, he viciously wounded several Hellfire Club guards upon his return, among them Reese. (Uncanny X-Men #133)
The next time Reese was seen was in Uncanny X-Men #152, where he and several of the guards who were wounded and should have died tell Wolverine that they’ve been augmented to match his strength, and they savagely beat him to gain some measure of revenge as Emma Frost’s plan to defeat the X-Men by using a device to switch bodies with Storm, and get Kitty Pryde’s parents to send her to her Massachusetts Academy is executed. Again, in the long run, the Club would be defeated.
Murray Reese turned up again as one of Donald Pierce’s personal guard during his attack on Professor X, Tessa, and the New Mutants in Marvel Graphic Novel #4. Some would say his tenure with the club was already over, though, and he had already become part of Pierce’s own splinter group outside of it.
His life after the Hellfire Club:
Whatever procedures Reese had already undergone to equal Wolverine in strength back in Uncanny X-Men #152, the next time he’s seen in Uncanny X-Men #205, he’s sacrificed even more of his humanity, heading to Spiral’s Body Shop to gain several cybernetic implants and join up with Lady Deathstrike and his comrades Macon and Cole to get revenge on Wolverine. At this time, he states that once Wolverine is dead, he’s planning on reversing the procedure. However, they are unsuccessful.
The next time Murray Reese appears, he and his two compatriots have joined up with Donald Pierce’s Reavers. (Uncanny X-Men #248-253). They manage to capture Wolverine at the X-Men’s headquarters in the Outback, and literally crucify him. Wolverine sits for days, tortured, before he is finally rescued by Jubilee. The Reavers go to attack Muir Island, thinking Wolverine will be there, where they inflict several fatalities on Moira MacTaggart’s X-Men team that was operating out of Muir Isle. (Uncanny X-Men #254). The Reavers on that day, though, would be routed once Freedom Force arrived to assist the Muir Island X-Men. (Uncanny X-Men #255).
Reese would resurface again a short time later with the Reavers and Lady Deathstrike in California, raiding a storage facility of Emma Frost, and leaving a message that the Reavers wouldn’t stop until they found her. (Uncanny X-Men #262). While whatever vendetta this might have been over, Reese would show up again in Uncanny X-Men #269, with the Reavers inside the X-Men’s old Outback base, their new headquarters. He would be part of a contingent that would, if only for a few moments, capture a seemingly depowered Rogue.
It would be much later, that Murray Reese would turn up as part of the contingent of Reavers who would attack the X-Treme X-Men team under the command of Donald Pierce in the X-Treme X-Men Annual 2001, only to be incarcerated by Australian authorities. It is unknown if Reese was a part of the group of new Reavers under the command of Lady Deathstrike that attacked Cable, the new mutant birth, and the X-Men in Alaska during Messiah CompleX on behalf of the Purifiers, however.
worstblogever
05-10-2008, 12:45 PM
Richter –
Hellfire Club Guard
First Appearance: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Hellfire Club Appearances: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Last Appearance: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Powers: Baseline Human
His life before the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His life with the Hellfire Club: Richter was one of four Hellfire Guard members tasked with trying to recover lost technology of Shaw Industries, namely that of Aaron Stack, Machine Man. They failed, when X-51 used his computer systems to jack into the same frequency their suit’s weapon systems operated on, and made them fire on each other.
Richard Salmons –
Hellfire Club Guard
First appearance: Uncanny X-Men #210
Hellfire Club Appearances: Uncanny X-Men #210
Last Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #210
Powers: Baseline Human
His life before the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His career with the Hellfire Club: Not much is known, save for Richard Salmon’s last day on the job. He was struck by an energy spear thrown by Harpoon while in the Company of Tommy, the Morlock who could change herself to a two-dimensional form at will. Salmons would drop his gun in at attempt to defend himself, and as it clattered across the asphalt to Tommy, he begged her to throw it back to him. Instead, she turned and ran, leaving him there to be finished off with a bullet to the head by Scalphunter.
Salvatore–
Hellfire Club Guard
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First Appearance: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Hellfire Club Appearances: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Last Appearance: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Powers: Baseline Human
His life prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His life with the Hellfire Club: Salvatore worked the Hellfire Club at the time when Phoenix II defeated the White Queen in New York City. It is not known if he survived the X-Men’s attacks on the club at those times.
Stansfield–
Hellfire Club Guard
First Appearance: X-Force (vol. 1) #49
Hellfire Club Appearances: X-Force (vol. 1) #49
Last Appearance: X-Force (vol. 1) #49
Powers: Baseline Human
His life before the Hellfire Club: Unknown
His life with the Hellfire Club: Stansfield was a soldier assisting Sebastian Shaw as he planned to overtake all of X-Force and Cable with Holocaust’s help.
Bruno Stein–
Hellfire Club Guard
First Appearance: Firestar #3
Hellfire Club Appearances: Firestar #3
Last Appearance: Firestar #3
Powers: Baseline Human
His life prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown
His time with the Hellfire Club: Not much is known about Stein’s time with the Hellfire Club, save that he was in the employ of the White Queen at the time of Firestar’s recruitment as an assassin. He had a previous working relationship with Randall Chase, and was part of a special Hellfire Club mercenary group known as the “Dirty Tricks Squad”, that Chase seemed to imply had a reputation for interest in underage girls. More so, though, Bruno also was implied by Randall Chase to have a wide sadistic streak, and people got hurt whenever he was called in to do his job.
Steven–
Hellfire Club Guard
First Appearance: Marvel Comics Presents (vol. 1) #89.
Hellfire Club Appearances: Marvel Comics Presents (vol. 1) #89.
Last Appearance: Marvel Comics Presents (vol. 1) #89.
Powers: Baseline Human
His life prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His life with the Hellfire Club: Steven is a Hellfire Club soldier, having been asked to send bellboys to Selene repeatedly so she could drain them of their life energy to wield herself. Other than that, Steven’s never been seen again.
Taft –
Hellfire Club Guard
First Appearance: Cable (vol. 2) #49
Hellfire Club Appearances: Cable (vol. 2) #49
Last Appearance: Cable (vol. 2) #49
Powers: Baseline Human
His life before the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His life with the Hellfire Club: Taft was a proxy, and agent of Donald Pierce who helped move several shipments of automatic weapons, and arrange for travel for large contingents of Hellfire Club guards to go to Switzerland as part of the “Tomorrow Agenda”, a project in which the Hellfire Club was attempting to awaken a servant of En Sabah Nur, Apocalypse, who was referred to as Harbinger. When Cable found his location, and attempted to extract whatever information he could from Taft, the fanatical mercenary instead took a cyanide capsule, rather than give any knowledge of the Agenda to Cable. The cyanide capsule was for naught, though, Cable still telepathically pulled the thought from Taft’s mind while he was dying.
Travis –
Hellfire Club Guard
First Appearance: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Hellfire Club Appearances: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Last Appearance: X-51 Wizard Special #0.
Powers: Baseline Human
His life before the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His life with the Hellfire Club: Travis was one of four Hellfire Guard members tasked with trying to recover lost technology of Shaw Industries, namely that of Aaron Stack, Machine Man. They failed, when X-51 used his computer systems to jack into the same frequency their suit’s weapon systems operated on, and made them fire on each other.
worstblogever
05-11-2008, 01:51 AM
Our first profile for Hellfire Club Month here on May 11th, and twenty-fourth overall is...
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Daimon Hellstrom –
White King of the Hellfire Club IV
First appearance: Ghost Rider (2nd series) #1
First Hellfire Club IV appearance: Fantastic Four Annual '99
All Hellfire IV appearances: Fantastic Four Annual '99
Powers: The Son of Satan, Hellstorm has superhuman strength, agility, and endurance. He can also channel soul-fire through his hands or through his netherandium trident as mystical pyrotechnics that burn the body and soul, or use the soul-fire to heal the bodies of others. He also possesses the ability to teleport across inter-dimensional barriers, and has a wide assortment of magical abilities drawn from his control of a corner of Hell.
His life Prior to the Hellfire Club:
Some thirty years ago, a number of Hell-Lords acted collectively to create a son via a human woman, who would serve as a living battery drawing in the black energy (sin) of mankind, storing it up as a charge of pure evil. This would give the Hell-Lords the power to break through the walls of reality en masse and lead to an unstoppable assault on man. An early attempt saw Beelzeboul seduce and impregnate Cassandra Dragonmekas, who learned her lover's true identity and banished him from Earth with a magic dagger that foiled their spell. Apparently unknown to the Hell-Lords, the Chapel of Dresden cult sought to create a half-human, half-demon child through which they could rule mankind. Purchasing Victoria Wingate Hellstrom from her Satanist parents, they tattooed her womb with Satanic symbols, enabling her to bear such a child. Kurios came to Earth in human form, and was drawn to and seemed to seduce Victoria. Marrying quickly, they moved to Fire Lake's mansion and Daimon was born there a year later, tended by his father's servants. Despite being weaned on human blood and his pentagram-shaped birthmark, Daimon was more attached to his mother and remained unaware of his father's true nature; but his sister, Satana, born when he was three, was always Daddy's little girl. When Daimon was six, Victoria walked in on an animal sacrifice Satana was performing for her father; she was driven mad and institutionalized upon seeing her husband's true face. Driving out the memory of willingly mothering the Antichrist, Victoria described herself as an innocent victim of Satan in her diary.
Daimon was raised in an orphanage, having no contact withhis father. His addled mother gave him an Ankh chain during a visit, telling him that only it could save him. Daimon studied under Father Raymond Gossett at a Jesuit Monastery for over three years, but he left abruptly before being ordained upon his mother's death and learning of his inheritance of Fire Lake. There he read Victoria's diary, learned of his father's true nature, and heard his father's call and promises of power. Removing his Ankh chain and accessing the mansion's portal to Hell, Daimon confronted Satan, ultimately refusing his father's offer. Daimon stole his father's trident and used it to summon his Demon-Steeds (Amon, Hecate, Set) and chariot, escaping Hell and sealing the portal behind him.
Daimon spent years studying demonology and wallowing in indecision, using the Ankh chain and isolation to moderate the nightly transformations when his demonic Darksoul would gain ascendance. Eventually he began to work as an exorcist, assisting the possessed Linda Littletrees (Witch Woman), which led to an alliance with the Ghost Rider against a Satan who cannot be clearly identified. As the Son of Satan, Daimon thwarted Satan by threatening to shatter his realm. After finding that the Fire Lake opening to Hell had reopened, Daimon traveled to St. Louis' Gateway University at the request of parasychology professor Katherine Reynolds, driving off Ikthalon, the icy demon of stagnation, and his Legions of Boreas.
Relocating to Washington, D.C.'s District University, Daimon taught parapsychology; defeated Mindstar, who attempted to use him against the Egyptian god Anubis; befriended the bizarre Proffet the Celestial Fool; and became more than friends with wicca Saripha Thames. Daimon also helped free the vampire hunter Blade from the control of Deacon Frost and participated in the "Defenders for a Day".
Now 27 years old, Daimon joined the Defenders in saving Eternity and the entire universe, opposing the alien Nebulon, as well as the demonic Six-Fingered Hand (Avarrish, Fashima, Hyppokri, Maya, Puishannt, Unnthinnk) who threatened to conquer Earth. The Defenders (including Daimon) teleported across the planet to fight the demons' agents Gargoyle (Isaac Christians) and Hellcat, both of whom were purged of demonic influences; the vampire Gordski, whom Daimon exposed to premature daylight via time manipulation; rock singer Asmodeus Jones; a would-be Messiah (David Kessler); and the possessed Man-Thing. Ultimately, the Six-Fingered Hand were revealed to be pawns of the major Hell-Lords, led by Mephisto (who had manipulated them as Maya), Satan, Satannish, and Thog, who threatened to merge Hell and Earth, enabled by the damage to the dimensional walls caused by the threat to Eternity and their multiple teleportations. After a pitched battle between father and son, Daimon agreed to stay in Hell to study under his father, and Satan cancelled the invasion of Earth, leaving the Defenders to wonder if Satan had achieved his true goal after all.
After months of attempting to purge his humanity, Daimon rebelled against and abandoned Satan, who surprisingly expressed pride and revealed his multi-faceted nature. Daimon returned to the Defenders, saving the life of the Beast's girlfriend Vera Cantor, foiling the corrupting spirit within the Resurrection Stone, and fighting the Secret Empire. After aiding the Squadron Supreme on Earth-712 against Null the Living Darkness, Daimon expressed his love for Patsy Walker (Hellcat), who initially rebuffed him. Leaving in a rage, Daimon returned to District University where he found that a demon from Satan's realm had usurped his identity. Daimon defeated the interloper, but left him in peace when Saripha revealed her love for the demon.
Daimon sought solace at Father Gosset's new monastery, but fell into a plot of the Miracle Man, who stole his Darksoul, which was ultimately cast into a serpent that seemed to slither off and die. Seemingly free of his demonic half, Daimon married Patsy, despite interference from the Secret Empire, and they moved out to San Francisco to work as occult investigators. Daimon's pentagram returned soon after and he showed intermittent mystic power, sometimes using the alias Hellstorm and donning a garish costume.
Meanwhile, the Hellfire Serpent, recipient of Daimon's Darksoul, was used by Terror to empower Mikal Drakonmegas as Hellfire to oppose Beelzeboul. Daimon's powers faded, and he retired, but he soon began to die without his Darksoul. In desperation, Patsy used the Grimorium Verum to summon Satan, who restored Daimon's Darksoul to continue their struggle. Patsy was driven mad upon seeing Daimon's full demonic spirit; he brought her back to Fire Lake where Isaac Christians cared for her. In preparation for the final battle with his father, Daimon took a road trip, defeating Satan's Somnambulist and his pawn Ervil Allred in Nevada, then befriended occult experts Al Shaitan and Avram Siegel. From the witch Lavoisin he learned his birth father's true name - a source of vulnerability to demons - for the price of donating his seed to her. Satan located Daimon's former imposter, sending him to resume the identity and lead the Satanic Black Church. Daimon slew the demon and promised his father their next battle would be their last.
Severing ties with Doctor Strange, Daimon battled the Black Church's Jack Riley alongside Soulfire, initially intended as Satan's pawn; punished the lethally abusive father of Lisa Beckman; and allied with the Souls of the Damned, spirits from Hell restored to Earth by Satan via misguided would-be faith-healer father Joshua Crow. Daimon successfully fought to bring the few redeemed Souls to Heaven, but was cast down to Hell as punishment. After learning the secrets of Heaven and Hell, Daimon invoked the name and symbols of Marduk Kurios, granting him the power to slay his father. Unexpectedly, the Black Halo of Satanic regency passed to Daimon, making him new Lord of Hell. As Daimon mandated secrecy and pondered these changes, high-ranking demons noticed the laxity and sought to increase their domains, while the forces of a division of Heaven, long-associates and rivals of Kurios, saw this as a chance to win the eternal struggle with Hell. Daimon slew the Armorer, who wore the organs of murdered sorcerers and sought to give Manhattan to the demon Zahgurim as a dowry; along the way, Daimon fell in love with occult terrorist Jaine Cutter, while Patsy regained sanity only to commit suicide under Deathurge's guidance. Working alongside occult network head and Satanist Anton Devine, Daimon and Jaine destroyed the Antimuse Inanna and her Bailiff of Madness; drove mad the angel Tzadqiel; and destroyed Heaven's homonculus agent Stephen Loss, driving his agent Gabriel insane in the process. Daimon had Isaac care for Gabriel, and he learned that Lavoisin was expecting a boy -- a child he knew would be his reborn father, Satan.
Daimon slew Doctor Druid when his powers and motives threatened earthly existence, resurrecting the mutant witch Nekra in the process; warned Wolverine of a mysterious box long thought lost in the nether regions; and assisted the mystically-empowered Punisher against rival Hell-Lord Olivier.
worstblogever
05-11-2008, 01:52 AM
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His life with the Hellfire Club: The academic Alyssa Moy began researching the Hellfire Club, and would be attacked mystically. She went to the Fantasic Four for help, who could find none of their sorcerer allies like Dr. Strange, Agatha Harkness, or Daimon Hellstrom, eventually settling for sorcerers Margali Szardos and Mechamage. Upon investigating the New York branch of the Hellfire Club, they would find Daimon Hellstrom within, and rescue him from rival devil-spawn Blackheart's apparent imprisonment. Hellstrom claimed at this time that he had allegedly gained standing as the White King to Blackheart's Black King of the Hellfire Club in the process under Selene’s new idea for a true “Hellfire” club.
His life after the Hellfire Club: Daimon manipulated the Thunderbolts into recovering Patsy Walker from Mephisto's Hell. When Satannish united with the extradimensional Dormammu to conquer all of Hell, Hellstorm joined with Mephisto, Pluto, Hela, and Hellcat to foil this plot. Afterwards, perhaps addled by her experiences, Patsy made an odd series of conclusions and claimed that Daimon was the Son of Satannish. Seeking to keep Patsy distant from the horrors of his current life, Daimon took on a malevolent aspect and agreed to her claims, though Mephisto provided her safe transport back to Earth for her help. With Jaine as his consort, Daimon remains lord of Hell, though his reborn father is almost certainly plotting a coup against him.
What do you think about Daimon Hellstrom as a member of the Hellfire Club? Do you think would have happened if he remained as White King?
worstblogever
05-11-2008, 02:33 AM
Double post.
ExodusCloak
05-11-2008, 04:27 AM
See, I read all those issues and just went back to re-read and skim through the annual, but there is never a panel of Emma stating that Cordy is the "Xavier or all empaths..." It's really really frustrating. I'm only obsessing about this because I like to think I'm an authority on the Frost family and basically... all things Emma, so the fact that I've seen this stated in several different places but any of the actual issues is really bothering me.
Don't let it bother you, Emma never said that. Heck, I don't think she's ever used her powers. The most we know about her powerset is that it's psychic-related due to it being stated that Winston had 3 psychic daughters.
worstblogever
05-11-2008, 09:28 AM
Our second entry on May 11th and twenty-fifth overall is...
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Holocaust –
Agent of Sebastian Shaw and Hellfire Club III
First Appearance: X-Men: Alpha
All Hellfire Club Appearances: (not an official member, but was recruited to assist Sebastian Shaw in X-Force (vol. 1) #48-49.
Last Appearance: Exiles #62
Powers and Abilities: Enhanced strength, endurance, reflexes, and physical invulnerability, direct bio-nuclear microwave blasts, the ability to drain lifeforce from others to charge his phasing and shapeshifting crystalline armor.
His Life on Earth-295:
Holocaust played a significant part in the Age of Apocalypse storyline first called Nemesis, one of the Horsemen, a quartet of villains that enforced Apocalypse's cullings on Marvel Earth-295 (Which the main Marvel Earth is numbered 616). He first appeared as an agent of his father Apocalypse in a human body. Spying on the X-Men’s headquarters on Wundagore Mountain he waited until most of the team left to attack. Scarlet Witch had been left in charge of the facility and the younger students at the school in case the team didn't come back alive. Nemesis fatally wounded Scarlet Witch and killed most of the young students. In revenge, Magneto destroyed his physical form, which was transported to his crystalline armor (both events happened off-panel), which was created by the Dark Beast. Once inside it, he was renamed Holocaust.
The next time that he appeared he was in charge of the Infinites processing plant in Indianapolis. Sabretooth, having a vendetta against Holocaust, convinced Blink to teleport him and Wild Child after the villain.Rogue tried to object but Blink did as she was told. Sabretooth and Holocaust battled exhaustively, but eventually the villain got the upper hand. Chaining Sabretooth to a stone slab and slicing his chest, Holocaust left him for dead. Enraged by Sabretooth's apparent death, Blink attacked Holocaust and seemingly killed him in a vat of acid, but the villain emerged unharmed. The rest of the team came to the rescue and Rogue almost destroyed the villain, but he teleported away before it was too late. He returned to his father, Apocalypse, where he encountered Nate Grey, also known as X-Man. Nate had no interest in fighting anyone other than Apocalypse, and quickly dispatched Holocaust with a massive psionic attack. However, Holocaust recovered soon afterward and again attacked Nate, leaving Magneto to fight Apocalypse alone.
Holocaust and X-Man were evenly matched and fought for quite some time, until Nate used a piece of the M’Kraan Crystal to stab Holocaust in the stomach. The crystal, which is the nexus of all realities, had a unique effect on the two when combined with the energy that escaped from Holocaust's armor, transporting the pair into the 616 Marvel Universe shortly before Bishop apparently prevented the Earth 295 timeline from ever occurring... or so it seemed.
His Days on Earth-616 Before the Hellfire Club: Holocaust wound up floating in space, where his body was taken aboard Magneto's orbiting space station, Avalon. Rusty Collins, at the time one of the Acolytes, was ordered to guard his body, which was thought to be frozen, and his life force was drained by the villain. Holocaust then went on a rampage, fighting Exodus and subsequently destroying the space station. He escaped onto Earth itself, where he would still prove to be a great threat.
Holocaust would land upon an island in the South Seas, where he would kill the entire population there for their life energy, to replace the power supply in his crystalline armor. The first person on Earth to notice the visitor from another reality would be Sebastian Shaw, who was coming out of hiding and attempting to rebuild his Hellfire Club. Holocaust was given ample chance to further recover, on other people by Shaw, and they would then work together to capture X-Force, picking them off one by one, and then have Tessa, Shaw’s assistant, use mind control to pit them against their leader, Cable. Cable would manage to survive this effect, and help his team regain their sense of selves. Shaw and Holocaust would leave the battlefield.
After his time with the Hellfire Club: Holocaust became the main antagonist of X-Man, who also was transported to Earth-616, and they had several run-ins. In one such incident he was acting as the agent of Onslaught. They battled until Holocaust's armor was broken and he had to flee, but he revealed that he was only sent to gauge X-Man's potential. Now that he had, Onslaught would come for him in person. He would be seen again during Onslaught’s rampage, battling all the assembled Avengers with Onslaught’s emissaries. He would be defeated, however, and not seen again until...
Holocaust was summoned to join the Exiles, and helped them solve the mystery of the Timebrokers/Timebreakers. However, the Timebreakers had recently been enslaved by another Earth’s Hyperion, and the Exiles, with Holocaust, ended up battling the villain. Hyperion proved stronger than Holocaust expected, headbutting him in his crystal armor, and snorting his essence inside his body, instantly metabolizing it and apparently killing him.
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What did you think of Holocaust? Would he have made an interesting rook or bishop in the Hellfire Club?
worstblogever
05-12-2008, 01:48 AM
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Benazir Kaur –
Black Queen of the Hellfire Club II
First appearance: X-Men Annual (2nd series) #3
All Hellfire II appearances: X-Men Annual (2nd series) #3 Last Appearance: X-Men Annual (2nd series) #3
Powers: Manipulates the metabolic systems of other people in order to accelerate bacterium, toxins, or carcinogens within their cells so that they disable her victims from within.
Her Life Before the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
Her Time With the Hellfire Club: Benazir Kaur was believed to have been the Black Queen of Shinobi Shaw’s second Hellfire Club, that he founded after supposedly killing his father, Sebastian. This second Hellfire Club apparently had the support of Candra, the External, but in what manner is still unclear. Kaur and her Inner Circle attempt to kidnap Storm, and recruit her into the new Hellfire Club’s ranks, the rest of the X-Men arrived and defeated them, including Benazir. She has not been seen since.
What did you think of Benazir Kaur? Was her power as a bio-manipulator interesting enough? Do you think in some way she may be related to Elixir, Plague, or some other mutant with a similar power? Did she deserve more than one appearance?
worstblogever
05-12-2008, 08:58 AM
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Senator Robert Kelly –
Frequent Guest, and possible member of the Hellfire Club
First Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #135
Last Appearance: X-Men (2nd series) #108
Powers: Baseline Human
His Life Prior to the Hellfire Club: Obviously, as a member of the Senate, though, Kelly wielded a formidable amount of political power. Unfortunately for mutants, Kelly maintained for years that mutants' very natures make them too dangerous to allow them to run unchecked. His Mutant Registration Act was proposed years ago to force mutants to register themselves (and the natures of their powers) with the government, much as one might register a handgun. It was the Act's proposal that prompted Mystique and her Brotherhood of Evil Mutants to attempt to assassinate him in Washington, D.C. Fortunately, the X-Men had been warned of the attempt by Kate Pryde, a future version of Kitty Pryde who had been sent back in time to stop the murder. Kate also revealed that Kelly's murder in her past made him a martyr, and the government passed the Act and then increased production of mutant-hunting Sentinels to round up dangerous mutants in the “Days of Future Past” storyline. All of this horrible future was caused by Kelly's murder, so the X-Men had to stop it. Unfortunately, while Sprite (Kitty) managed to deflect Destiny’s aim and save Kelly, the incident only fueled his resolve to pass the Registration Act. Kelly also cultivated a relationship with industrialist Sebastian Shaw, who built Sentinels and supported Kelly's plans. Unbeknownst to Kelly, Shaw was himself a mutant.
His life with the Hellfire Club: Over time, it would seem Shaw would get Kelly to more and more associate with the Hellfire Club, a mutant cabal bent on world domination. Kelly’s times as a guest of the Club, and the fact that he actually married one of their staff seem to indicate the possibility he was a member. It was after one of these meetings with Shaw in New York that Kelly's limo got smashed by debris from a fight between the X-Men and the conglomerate of Nimrod and Master Mold. Horribly, while Kelly survived, his wife Sharon died in the wreckage trying to help pry Rogue free. Though with her dying breath she refused to condemn the mutants, who were trying to stop the rampaging machine, Kelly's grief only strengthened his position that mutants were too dangerous to be allowed to run rampant. He became more convinced of the righteousness of his crusade and immediately ordered more Sentinels into production.
After the Hellfire Club, and his marriage:
Later, Kelly supported Bastion’s Operation: Zero Tolerance, but when he realized that Bastion was converting innocent humans into Sentinels and taking away the rights of U.S. citizens (even those who were mutants), he withdrew his support. He then became a target of Bastion's minions, and was forced to call the X-Men (through Professor X) for help. Luckily, Cyclops repsonded to his plea just in time to save his life, and Kelly was able to use his political influence to have S.H.I.E.L.D. shut Bastion down. Kelly didn't change his ultimate position, though, and shortly thereafter declared his candidacy for President of the United States, running on an anti-mutant platform. To be fair, the Senator honestly believed that mutants must be recognized and controlled, or innocent people will be harmed. However, his methods and proposals always seem to scare mutants, who feel that his idea open doors to other actions that would strip them of their rights. Recently, Kelly was alerted to the fact that Mystique was after him again. She had actually been posing as some of his friends and acquaintances to talk to him about his policies. To his credit, the Senator stood his ground and refused to let her obvious threat to his life dissuade him from fighting for what he believes in. When the Brotherhood made its move, Kelly was defended by the X-Men, though it was the dying act of Pyro (blasting Post) that saved his life. Kelly's speeches became more and more tolerant of mutants, trying to downplay the hysteria and hate that his cause had spawned. He even came to understand and respect Cable, who had been inserted into his campaign to protect him. Ironically, though, it was an anti-mutant human who shortly thereafter gunned Kelly down, upset that the candidate had "betrayed" his human brothers by toning down his rhetoric against mutants.
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Sharon Kelly –
Member of the Hellfire Club Staff
First Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #246.
Hellfire Club Appearances: (Technichally, none. Her time as a “maid” at the Hellfire Club is never shown on panel.)
Last Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #247.
Powers: Baseline Human
Her life Prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
Her life With the Hellfire Club: Sharon Kelly was a maid during her time with the Hellfire Club, and would show up on-panel first in Uncanny X-Men #246 as Senator Kelly’s wife, with her past ties to the Hellfire Club revealed. She would die trying to help Rogue from the wreckage of her husband’s limo in Uncanny X-Men #247 when she got blasted by the Master Mold/Nimrod amalgamated Sentinel. Her death would cause her husband to further his policies to control mutants, even if they did try to save her.
What did you think of the Kellys? Would you have liked to see more of Sharon’s history with the Hellfire Club, including how Senator Kelly courted her? Do you think they’re playing “naughty maid” up in the afterlife?
Jack Flash
05-12-2008, 09:04 AM
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Benazir Kaur –
Black Queen of the Hellfire Club II
First appearance: X-Men Annual (2nd series) #3
All Hellfire II appearances: X-Men Annual (2nd series) #3 Last Appearance: X-Men Annual (2nd series) #3
Powers: Manipulates the metabolic systems of other people in order to accelerate bacterium, toxins, or carcinogens within their cells so that they disable her victims from within.
Her Life Before the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
Her Time With the Hellfire Club: Benazir Kaur was believed to have been the Black Queen of Shinobi Shaw’s second Hellfire Club, that he founded after supposedly killing his father, Sebastian. This second Hellfire Club apparently had the support of Candra, the External, but in what manner is still unclear. Kaur and her Inner Circle attempt to kidnap Storm, and recruit her into the new Hellfire Club’s ranks, the rest of the X-Men arrived and defeated them, including Benazir. She has not been seen since.
What did you think of Benazir Kaur? Was her power as a bio-manipulator interesting enough? Do you think in some way she may be related to Elixir, Plague, or some other mutant with a similar power? Did she deserve more than one appearance?
I always expected to see her next as a Horseman of Apocalypse.
darknessatnoon
05-12-2008, 10:10 AM
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Sharon Kelly –
Member of the Hellfire Club Staff
First Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #246.
Hellfire Club Appearances: (Technichally, none. Her time as a “maid” at the Hellfire Club is never shown on panel.)
Last Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #247.
Powers: Baseline Human
Her life Prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
Her life With the Hellfire Club: Sharon Kelly was a maid during her time with the Hellfire Club, and would show up on-panel first in Uncanny X-Men #246 as Senator Kelly’s wife, with her past ties to the Hellfire Club revealed. She would die trying to help Rogue from the wreckage of her husband’s limo in Uncanny X-Men #247 when she got blasted by the Master Mold/Nimrod amalgamated Sentinel. Her death would cause her husband to further his policies to control mutants, even if they did try to save her.
What did you think of the Kellys? Would you have liked to see more of Sharon’s history with the Hellfire Club, including how Senator Kelly courted her? Do you think they’re playing “naughty maid” up in the afterlife?
I loved Sharon! I forgot that she was the maid. I am sure she played maid in the bedroom. Cosplay like that can save a marriage between members of different social classes.
WBE, I can't believe you profiled all the henchman. They had some sexy names. Total trade.
worstblogever
05-12-2008, 11:01 AM
I always expected to see her next as a Horseman of Apocalypse.
Hell yeah... she would've made a lot more sense as Pestilence than say... oh... Polaris. Or how Caliban went from being Death to it, as well... she already had the correct powers... it was meant to be.
Nyssane
05-12-2008, 12:49 PM
Benazir is my favorite! I loved her as a boss in Wolverine: Adamantium Rage or whateva that game was called!
Jack Flash
05-12-2008, 08:41 PM
Benazir should totally hook up with Emplate, Shinobi and Ms. Steede and rock the club again.
worstblogever
05-13-2008, 02:04 AM
Our first entry here on May 13th, and twenty-eighth overall is...
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Kingmaker –
Former Member of the Hellfire Club I
First Appearance: New X-Men: Hellions #1
All Hellfire Appearances: Technichally, none. He’s only referred to as a former member.
Last Appearance: New X-Men: Hellions #4.
Powers: Possible Magic-User, specializing in wish fulfillment.
His Life Prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His Life With the Hellfire Club: Mostly unknown. It’s only known that Emma Frost had him tossed from the Hellfire Club. The reasons remain unclear.
His Life After the Hellfire Club:The Kingmaker arrived and agreed to grant the Academy X Hellions one wish.. In return, the Hellions were asked to bring the Kingmaker a biological weapon from Genetassist, Inc., which he planned to give to Dr. Octopus. Hellion led the his team on the raid, taking out Diamondback and Paladin in the process, and retrieved the canister. However, Hellion only agreed to give it to the Kingmaker in return for voiding their contracts. When the Kingmaker agreed, Hellion attacked, and with his full squad managed to defeat the villain, in the process also destroying the biological weapon before turning it over to S.H.I.E.L.D. Emma Frost ended up pulling strings to get him out of prison for his crime, in exchange, he had to promise to never mess with any of Emma’s students again.
What did you think of Kingmaker? Did you wonder what the source of his powers was? What do you think he actually was kicked out of the Hellfire Club by Emma Frost for?
worstblogever
05-13-2008, 09:04 AM
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Benedict Kine –
White King of the Hellfire Club II
First appearance: X-Men Annual (2nd series) #3
All Hellfire II appearances: X-Men (2nd series) Annual #3, Spider-Man Team-Up #1
Last Appearance: Spider-Man Team-Up #1.
Powers: Take psionic control of another person’s nervous system, allowing him to control their movements or spark individual neural synapses to cause bursts of pain or pleasure.
His life prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His life with the Hellfire Club: Benedict Kine only has two real accomplishments with the Hellfire Club, both of them failures. He was first present when Shinobi Shaw tried to force Storm to join his Hellfire Club, and was part of the Inner Circle defeated by the X-Men as a result. His next feat as a member of the Hellfire Club was to challenge Shinobi Shaw for leadership of the club, in a game to see if his White Knights could kidnap J. Jonah Jameson before Shinobi’s Black Knights could stop him. With some inadvertent help from Spider-Man and the X-Men, Shinobi’s last Black Knight defeated the last of Kine’s White Knights, making his bid unsuccessful. Benedict Kine has not appeared since.
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What did you think of Benedict Kine? Would he have made a good recurring villain, and member of the Hellfire Club? Should he have been retained as White King by Sebastian Shaw after his return to power? Where has he been since his failed attempt to become leader of the Inner Circle?
Dizzy D
05-13-2008, 12:02 PM
OK, real life kinda got in the way, so I haven't kept up with the little guys and bits. So I'll just post the few remaining.
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worstblogever
05-14-2008, 02:31 AM
Ebony Knights-
Hellfire Club Elite Soldiers-
First Appearance: Spider-Man Team-Up #1.
Last Appearance: Spider-Man Team-Up #1.
Hellfire Club Appearances: Spider-Man Team-Up #1.
Powers: Flight, teleportation.
Their time prior to being in the Hellfire Club: The Ebony Knights are described as “…cybernetic. Not real people. Just copies.”, indicating that they are in fact, artificial constructs, as the X-Men tore through them without any remorse. There were two of them originally, but after they were destroyed, another was shown to be active. They apparently get restored or replaced as needed. They appeared to look like Hand ninjas, possessing the ability to teleport, fire green energy blasts, and several martial arts techniques. They were shown to have some anatomical qualities, though, as one was defeated after being hit by some of Archangel’s neurotoxin coated metal feathers.
Their time in the Hellfire Club: When an opposing king makes a Rite of Challenge for leadership of the Hellfire Club, they are telepathically summoned to serve them on several missions and trials, with the victorious side determining the future leadership of the Hellfire Club. The Rite of Challenge was meant to determine the Club’s leader, but settle an argument between Kine and Shinobi over how to deal with Jameson, and was suggested by Tessa. The Ebon Knights, in their one appearance, were sent to prevent Benedict Kine’s White Knights from collecting J. Jonah Jameson. The contest would end up seeing interference from both Spider-Man and the X-Men. Initially, the White Knights did have possession of Jameson, but the Ebon Knights managed to teleport him away. Once Spider-Man struck Benedict Kine during this battle, Shinobi Shaw commanded his last remaining Ebon Knight to battle only the White Knights and to spare Spider-Man and the X-Men. That remaining Ebon Knight has not been seen since. (As far as why they are “Ebon” knights and not “Black” Knights to match the Black King, well, apparently someone at Marvel editorial thought more Black Knights would only add to the confusion that characters with the name like Dane Whitman already faced. But how the hell did a chess themed organization whose origins go back to England end up not having Knights sooner? And why not since?)
What did you think of the Ebon Knights? Were they an interesting ace up the sleeves of the Hellfire Club? Or were they a blatant attempt to remind everyone that “Shinobi” Shaw was supposed to be have ties to the Far East? Do they just make you laugh and realize that comic book writers might think, “I know… a robot! No fought robots last month. A ninja! No, that happened in the other book. I know… A ROBOT NINJA!”
White Knights-
Elite Soldiers of the Hellfire Club
First Appearance: Spider-Man Team-Up #1
Last Appearance: Spider-Man Team-Up #1
Hellfire Club Appearances: Spider-Man Team-Up #1
Powers: Flight, teleportation, project energy blasts from their staffs, drain Ebon Knights’ energies.
Life before they were in the Hellfire Club: None, apparently. They were described as “…cybernetic. Not real people. Just copies,” leading many readers to believe they were artificial constructs. That, and the X-Men and Spider-Man tore them apart with no remorse.
Time spent with the Hellfire Club: Benedict Kine summoned them as his representatives in the Rite of Challenge that he made against Shinobi Shaw for leadership of the Hellfire Club. Their goal was to collect J. Jonah Jameson, while Shinobi Shaw’s Ebon Knights were to prevent it. The Rite of Challenge was meant to determine the Hellfire Club’s leader, but settle an argument between Kine and Shinobi over how to deal with Jameson, and was suggested by Tessa. Briefly, they did capture Jameson, but the Ebon Knights teleported the publisher out of their grasp before they could return to the Hellfire Club. They were defeated shortly after Spider-Man noticed a pattern in their teleports… they could only re-appear in an “L” from where they stood, not unlike the chess piece they were designed after. With this weakness exposed, the remaining Ebon Knight, Spider-Man, and the X-Men made short work of the White Knights. None have been seen since.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/kinebenedicthellfireclub.htm (scroll down to view both the Ebony and White Knights)
What did you think of the White Knights? Would you like to see more of them? Do you think their designer is a moron for limiting their teleportation ability to only allow them to move in an “L” pattern?
worstblogever
05-14-2008, 09:03 AM
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Bianca La Niege –
Member of the Hellfire Club I
First Appearance: Generation X #40.
Hellfire Club Appearances: None on panel. She does refer to Emma Frost as an old foe of hers from their days in the Hellfire Club together in Generation X #40.
Last Appearance: Generation X #44.
Powers: Bianca was a human mutate with the power of transmutation, which she demonstrated by turning seven aliens into her “Seven Dwarves” to serve her. She may have also had low-level telepathy.
Her life Prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
Her life with the Hellfire Club: Not much is known, except that she and Emma Frost were rivals, and Emma had bought LaNiege Industrial Concepts in a hostile takeover, and it drove Bianca to great levels of obsession. She tried to further develop a device she had to open gateways to other realities, and from them, bring back alien technology she could market and put Frost out of business, in turn. Instead, she was trapped in another dimension, where she endured, as she put it, “unspeakable torture but also gained great power”.
Her life after the Hellfire Club: By the time Bianca managed to escape the alien dimension in which she was trapped, many years had passed. She used a ship she had designed for travel to locate Emma Frost, to gain her vengeance, with seven aliens she had used her new powers of transmutation to make into her “Seven Dwarves”. She attempted to ambush Emma while she was on a golf course with Generation X, but a psychic wave caused by the Shadow King rendered both her, and Emma’s powers null. Bianca blacked out, and crashed her ship temporarily. While she was unconscious, her dwarves debated killing her, and Emma and her students left the golf course, unaware of the lingering threat. Bianca would come to, chastise her seven underlings, and continue on to the Massachusetts Academy to again attempt to gain revenge against her old rival.
However, once at the school, Bianca and her dwarves accomplished little more than damaging Generation X’s biosphere. Bianca would be beaten by a temporarily de-powered Emma Frost, who wielded frying pans, and finally smashed a watermelon over LaNiege’s head, while her students tangled with the Dwarves, who surrendered when they realized Chamber’s bio-blast was much more powerful than their own plasma cannon.
Emma Frost decided after capturing Bianca and her Dwarves, they would be put to work rebuilding the biosphere they destroyed. In the middle of doing this, however, another strange portal appeared near LaNiege, her lackeys, and the remains of the biosphere into what appeared to be the future. They have not been seen since.
What did you think of Bianca LaNiege? Would you have liked to have seen her Hellfire Club rivalry with Emma Frost in the pages of Emma’s own series? Do you think she will be seen again?
worstblogever
05-15-2008, 03:20 AM
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Harry Leland –
Black Bishop of the Hellfire Club I
First appearance: Uncanny X-Men #129 [silhouette], #132 [fully]
All Hellfire Appearances: Generation X #minus1, X-Men: The Hellfire Club #4, Classic X-Men #7, Marvel Super Heroes (2nd series) #11, Uncanny X-Men #129, 132-135, 152, New Mutants (1st series) #23, Uncanny X-Men #208-209
Last appearance: Uncanny X-Men #209
Powers: Geometrically increase the mass of any object in his vicinity, weighing it down with enormous gravitational pressure.
His life prior to the Hellfire Club: Unknown.
His life with the Hellfire Club: Little is known of Leland's past before encountering the X-Men, however he did encounter former teammate, Emma Frost before she was inducted into the Hellfire Club. At the time, Emma was homeless and using her powers during a Hellfire Club meeting to gain information about stocks, Leland took an interest in her but tried to recruit too strongly, which made Emma run away. Shortly after, he accompanied Sean Cassidy (Banshee) and his NYPD partner to an incident behind the club which involved Emma. Emma, having met and repaired the fractured mind of the Dark Beast with her powers, mind-wiped all three men into forgetting the incident and that they had ever met. (All in Generation X: Minus One) He would be shown later, in Classic X-Men #7, being the one to make the introduction of Emma Frost to Sebastian Shaw.
Later, Leland first encountered the X-Men when the X-Men invaded the New York headquarters of the Hellfire Club. Leland caused Wolverine to become super-heavy with his powers and fall through the floor into a sub-basement. (Uncanny X-Men #132)
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An interesting side note would be Leland’s brief infatuation with Jean Grey as the Hellfire Club’s new Black Queen, to which he even would remark she was more attractive to him than the White Queen, who had just been buried in a cave in a short time earlier! (Way to roll with the punches, Harry.) Oh yeah, and he did so with Cyclops bound, and listening. (Uncanny X-Men #133)
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In the rematch, Wolverine attacked Leland from above. At that moment, Leland foolishly used his mass-increasing powers against his opponent a second time, resulting in Wolverine crashing through the floor again, only this time with Leland beneath him as Wolverine intended (Uncanny X-Men #134). All evidence to the contrary, Leland survived this incident, being carted out of the Hellfire Club badly injured in an ambulance (Uncanny X-Men #135).
Shortly after he attended the ceremony to welcome Emmanuel DaCosta and Selene into the Inner Circle (New Mutants (vol. 1) #23), Leland would battle the X-Men in New York's Central Park with his Hellfire Club allies. Leland used his power to sink Colossus hundreds of feet underground (Uncanny X-Men #208). When Nimrod attacked the assembled mutants, the X-Men and the Club joined forces to battle Nimrod. Against considerable resistance by the robot, Leland increased Nimrod's mass to move it towards the ground and thus become more vulnerable to attack. Overweight and in poor health, the effort caused Leland to have a heart attack. Then, at Storm’s urging, Leland increased the mass of Sebastian Shaw (who had been sent hurtling towards outer space by Nimrod), causing Shaw to crash into Nimrod's body on the ground. Leland succumbed to his heart condition and died (Uncanny X-Men #209).
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However, when the supervillain Black Talon revived Leland's body, as well as the bodies of three other deceased mutants, as a zombie; his motives for doing such were unspecified. After She-Hulk’s defeat of the Talon and his "X-Humed", Leland was reburied. Precautions were taken to ensure that he never come back, among them filling his mouth with salt and sewing his lips together (Sensational She-Hulk #35).
What did you think of Harry Leland? Was he the perviest of the Hellfire Club, hands down? How involved was he in helping Emma Frost rise to power, and what did he gain from it? Since their powers are so similar, do you think he was Shinobi Shaw’s real father?
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