Daredevil by Ed Brubaker / What is your verdict ?

[sabongero]

Ed Brubaker has been the regular scribe for Daredevil for the last couple of years assuming the mantle from Bendis. It seems his work on this title is overshadowed by his outstanding work on Captain America.

I have read the the first two TPB's written by him, The Devil, Inside and Out Vol 1 and Vol 2. Personally, I liked those two volumes. Bru tied up all losse ends left from Bendis's run. The storylne was pulse-pounding. The quiet moments and setting were put to good use and elevated the overall quality of reading.

How do you assess his written work in Daredevil so far ? There is a poll so please vote your opinion. However, please kindly back up the reason why you voted that way. Thanks.

[Mr. Earl Brooks]

Ed Brubaker has been the regular scribe for Daredevil for the last couple of years assuming the mantle from Bendis. It seems his work on this title is overshadowed by his outstanding work on Captain America.

I have read the the first two TPB's written by him, The Devil, Inside and Out Vol 1 and Vol 2. Personally, I liked those two volumes. Bru tied up all losse ends left from Bendis's run. The storylne was pulse-pounding. The quiet moments and setting were put to good use and elevated the overall quality of reading.

How do you assess his written work in Daredevil so far ? There is a poll so please vote your opinion. However, please kindly back up the reason why you voted that way. Thanks.

5 Stars for a bad ass Punisher cameo!

[Rahul]

His opening arc is probably the best he's written...but in the middle it got a bit shaky...and then found a great footing with Mr Fear!

[Expletive Deleted]

It's a fine book, but I'd say it's on the lower end of his current output. CRIMINAL, IRON FIST, and CAPTAIN AMERICA all blow it away.

[MakeshiftHero]

5 stars.

His first couple arcs had a boost from where Bendis left it, but he made DD his own and really broke the ceiling and set a new high for DD.

I'll admit that it did slow down a bit after Matt got out of jail and found out that Mrs. Fisk was behind it. But I feel that it slowed down only because it was the end of this epic adventure so it was only normal to slow

Now Brubaker has really started his own series on DD. His arc with Mr. Fear was fantastic and bumped Mr. Fear into DD's baddest villains.

I'm sure things will get back to as exciting as it was when Matt was in jail soon, because Lilly is still out there, Milla is a wreck, Black T. is coming up and is a good ally for Matt. And Mr. Fear is still on top and is just savoring his victory waiting to strike back.

Bru's the man and I can't wait till he brings some more old school bad guys back to DD.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Bru was incharge of writing the next "event" book after SI.

[Leocomix]

On DD he ranks at the top, better than the first Miller run (but not the second), better than Bendis but not by much, as good as Nocenti's best.
He's as good as on Captain America, maybe slightly better but people are used to a well-written DD.
Iron Fist is very entertaining but very artificial, probably due to Fraction (Fraction was the one who thought of the tournament while Bru thought of the revolution)
Criminal is so predictable, so cliché it makes me cringe. I can't understand those who think it great.
Uncanny X-Men started poorly but has been improving fast. As entertaining as Iron Fist right now.

[Libaax]

Criminal is so predictable ? You dont like Noir or crime right ;)





I would vote 5 stars now after the amazing Mr Fear arc. He destroyed Matt more than even Kingpin could. It was so so in the start when he had to deal with Bendis leftovers. But with Mr Fear it was great DD work.

I think only his Criminal run is better right now. Cap is like 4.5 same when he was writing/plotting IF,

[StoneGold]

It's a fine book, but I'd say it's on the lower end of his current output. CRIMINAL, IRON FIST, and CAPTAIN AMERICA all blow it away.

So good, you can only compare it to other Brubaker works.

[Will.S]

I guess we should be expecting another large wave of "What is your verdict" threads.

[vazel]

As much as I like Brubaker's current run on DD I still like Bendis' run on the title better. I'm saying this as a big Brubaker fanboy that has spent hundreds of dollars collecting as many Brubaker written comic books as I can.

And I think we should remember Brubaker himself has said he's practically an overglorified editor on IF with Fraction doing most of the writing.

[Libaax]

As much as I like Brubaker's current run on DD I still like Bendis' run on the title better. I'm saying this as a big Brubaker fanboy that has spent hundreds of dollars collecting as many Brubaker written comic books as I can.

And I think we should remember Brubaker himself has said he's practically an overglorified editor on IF with Fraction doing most of the writing.

Everyone knows that but also everyone knows he was plotter,wrote early issues.

He doesnt deserve 100% credit for IF but neither was is it only Fraction writing,plotting from the start.

[timomcshade]

It should be compared to others Daredevil work. I gave him a 4. The Bendis run is one of the best in the history of comics. The only other run better than Bendis's, IMO, is Frank Miller's. Brubaker's run on DD is awesome but has not yet caught up with Bendis's. I agree with others that his Iron Fist and Captain America runs are stronger but I believe part of that has to do with him being able to start at 1 with no baggage. WIth Daredevil he had what Bendis left him, which he requested, and has just picked up from there. The books "Devil Inside and Out" was more or less a wrap up of what Bendis started. He did have an amazing Punisher cameo that will never be forgotten. Hell to Pay vol 1 with the Gladiator was a bit rough but vol 2(issues 100-105) Bru really found his footing with Mr Fear and he hasn't let up since.

[Mister Mets]

Five stars. It's amazing stuff. His first and fourth volume may be the series' best since Daredevil: Born Again.

[The Shadow]

It seems his work on this title is overshadowed by his outstanding work on Captain America.
His Captain America is simply the best single character comic on the shelf.

His Daredevil, therefore, is not quite as good so I voted 4 stars.

I thought the transition from Bendis to Bru was seamless. Great stuff.

[jumonji]

I gave it five stars. Even though I like the character enough to stick with the book with almost any writer on it, it's nice to be a fan when the writing is this spectacular. Bru's Matt seems so perfectly in character and I really like Michael Lark's art as well. I just wish that things would start looking up for the main character. Just a little. Dark and gritty is one thing, but constant gloom is making the character less relatable. Not everything in the book has to be personal or hit as close to home as it has during the otherwise spectacular volume 2.

[kello]

I feel like Cap and Daredevil have the same problem, which is that the pacing of the storylines can be so slow that a lot of the issues feel the same. Sometimes this works, sometimes it doesn't, but DD is one of my favorite comics put out on a monthly basis. Matt Murdock has so much crap piled on him every month, but he manages to pull through.

[The Man Without Fear]

I haven't enjoyed the title this much, this consistently since Nocenti. Now if I'm being honest, I probably felt the same way when Bendis first started his run, but it was starting to grow stale on me towards the end there. So far, I just feel that Brubaker's done a better job of balancing the duality of Matt and DD.

I do agree that there have been some lulls; some issues that felt more repetitive than actually contributing to the overall progression of the plot. However, all of Bru's payoffs thus far have been every bit as explosive as Bendis' "The King of Hell's Kitchen" was, in my opinion, making those lulls worth it in the end.

Great stuff, and I hope Mr. Brubaker never leaves.

[SeritoNiN]

Gave it a 2. Very disappointed with this title since he took it over. Every arc I've tried is bland and very forgettable. I'm honestly looking forward to the day a new writer takes on this title. This went from being my top book every month to now being something I hardly notice is on the shelf. Ashame.

[sabongero]

A lot of people had very favorable comments regarding Bru's use of Mr. Fear in his current storyarc. I am not familiar with Mr. Fear.

Can someone, who is familiar with how Mr. Fear was handled in older Daredevil issues by other writers, advice how Mr. Fear differs as a villain character under Brubaker's hands than in the hands of other Daredevil writers. Thanks for shedding light on my question.

[The Man Without Fear]

Last time I remember seeing Larry before this past arc was towards the end of Daredevil Vol. 1. In that story, he basically set Karen up to go to prison for murder, while also playing head games with Matt in order to throw him off his game as her attorney. Once the trial was finished, he planned to break Matt's spirit completely, but his plans were foiled before the final arguments had even been made. Matt of course won the case, by the way; with a little (unwanted) help from Fisk, that is.

Anyway, Cranston's been aware of DD's identity for longer than just about anyone else, so using that to his advantage as a manipulator wasn't really anything new here. And regardless of who's been under the mask, Mr. Fear's always been one of Matt's more sinister villains. Bru's approach, however, was a tad darker than anything that's ever come before from the villain. He basically took the established themes of the character and took them to new depths of depravity and resentment.

- Manning

[JET ACE LOGAN]

i voted average, cause the run started out so well, with the prison story, and now seems to have run out of steam (so much so that there is a co writer starting), and sorry, but if you read a lot of brubakers work it suffers by comparison.........


and i do read a lot of his work..................

[sabongero]

I was just reading the Devil Inside Out TPB again. Did Brubaker create the characters Matador and Lily ? Does Lily have a power regarding something to do with women's scents ?

[timomcshade]

I was just reading the Devil Inside Out TPB again. Did Brubaker create the characters Matador and Lily ? Does Lily have a power regarding something to do with women's scents ?

Matador no he is an older character, As for Lily I am not sure. The "power" she has is do to a perfume given to her by Vanessa Fisk

[Seraku]

I give it 4 stars, I just loved Bendis' DD so much so maybe I'm biased

[Samy]

I gave it two. While there have been some nice moments scattered throughout, by and large it's just going too slow, and is cluttered with D-list villains. I needed to see the Enforcers ever again like I needed a hole in the head. Tombstone? Mr Fear? Black Tarantula? Come ON now.

Crap villains, a lot of boring-ass psychodrama with a whiny wife and slow as molasses pacing. It broke my heart since I've followed DD for so long, but I finally had to drop the book with #106.

[sabongero]

Hey did you guy agree with Brubabker's decision on the direction he went with making Matt's wife Lila nuts? Perhaps it was the opening needed to make Matt available to have future relationships with other women again.

[yadadaimhollaing]

Hey did you guy agree with Brubabker's decision on the direction he went with making Matt's wife Lila nuts? Perhaps it was the opening needed to make Matt available to have future relationships with other women again.

to me it seems hes doing to matt what was done to him earlier in the series with karen page and thats make his life miserable because the woman hes in love with is dead in karens case and milas case shes nuts. i really enjoyed the way the series has revolved around the torment he feels for the loss of these 2 women.

i voted 5 stars. captain america and dd are my 2 favorite series.

[alveraz]

5 stars, it's the best series I'm reading by far, but then again Cap and Criminal are insanely great as well. I'm hooked on this guys work.

[claimtosubclaim]

I voted Above Average. The Devil in Cell Block D was gold. The Devil Takes A Ride was decent and had a good ending. The next two arcs were a bit boring aside from the Daredevil vs. cops parts, and while Mr. Fear got a great role, the story was just too slow to keep my interest. Things seem to be getting good again though. I've enjoyed the first two issues of the most recent arc. Dakota North taking a more prominent role in the book is an interesting direction. Most solo books work better when the ensemble cast is put to good use (i.e. Ben Urich, Foggy, Dakota, Luke Cage, Night Nurse in DD; Falcon, Sharon, Tony Stark, Black Widow in Cap; and so on.)

[sabongero]

I voted Above Average. The Devil in Cell Block D was gold. The Devil Takes A Ride was decent and had a good ending. The next two arcs were a bit boring aside from the Daredevil vs. cops parts, and while Mr. Fear got a great role, the story was just too slow to keep my interest. Things seem to be getting good again though. I've enjoyed the first two issues of the most recent arc. Dakota North taking a more prominent role in the book is an interesting direction. Most solo books work better when the ensemble cast is put to good use (i.e. Ben Urich, Foggy, Dakota, Luke Cage, Night Nurse in DD; Falcon, Sharon, Tony Stark, Black Widow in Cap; and so on.)

I see you mentioned the Night Nurse on your poist. Does she show up a lot of times in Daredevil comic books in the past ?

[claimtosubclaim]

I see you mentioned the Night Nurse on your poist. Does she show up a lot of times in Daredevil comic books in the past ?

Nah, but when she does, it works well. DD is one of the heroes without a healing factor, and to see him recovering at her "clinic" is appropriate and gives the book a special gravitas that it wouldn't have otherwise. I'm more so advocating her return to the book in larger doses.

[MakeshiftHero]

I see you mentioned the Night Nurse on your poist. Does she show up a lot of times in Daredevil comic books in the past ?

Every once in a while when she's not off banging Dr. Strange.

[sabongero]

Every once in a while when she's not off banging Dr. Strange.

I didn't get a chance to read Dr. Strange: Oath limited series. That was the one I think by B.K. Vaughn right ? I read around the threads last year that she played a prominent role in that limited series. So she really is Dr. Strange's girlfriend. I thought his girlfriend was Cleo. Although I think she's currently deceased right ?

[sabongero]

I am wondering if the change of pencil duties from Lark to someone else will change the readers of this series under Brubaker, because it changes the tone of the book and the difference of the interpretation of the script by the penciller from Lark's interpretations.

[jumonji]

I am wondering if the change of pencil duties from Lark to someone else will change the readers of this series under Brubaker, because it changes the tone of the book and the difference of the interpretation of the script by the penciller from Lark's interpretations.
Wait... What? Lark isn't going anywhere. #111 has a guest penciller (like we've seen every few issues), but I haven't heard anything about Lark leaving the book. So far, I've really liked all of the guest artists except in #106 where Azaceta's art almost ruined an already unusually shaky script by Bru. I really like Lark and I hope he isn't leaving anytime soon. I think the book could work well with another artist as well though, as long as it's in the style we've seen for most of volume 2 (more realistic than cartoony).

[DC906270-BIL]

i think issue 109 was highly interesting, and is the 1st time in a while i can see a good long term plot line developing, a la Cap America. hope it doesnt get too similar in tone though.

[Guru_Pitka]

I gave him the highest mark possible.

I admit - I didn't take the entire run of Marvel comics into consideration when making the comparison - just what is out on the stands today.

I wish every solo star Marvel ongoing had the same level of consistency and quality that daredevil has enjoyed.

There aren't all that many series that i just know I'm going to really enjoy before I even open it up. Daredevil is one of them and I have Ed Brubaker to thank for that.

[Congo Jack]

Just reading through Marvel's October solicitations there again and the first issue of the Broken Hand features Iron Fist - I'm probably picking the book up for the first time just for that. HBut what I really wanted to know was has Iron Fist appeared during Brubaker's DAREDEVIL run before.

I know Iron Fist was impersonating Daredevil during Civil War but was that during Bendis' or Brubaker's helm?

[jumonji]

I know Iron Fist was impersonating Daredevil during Civil War but was that during Bendis' or Brubaker's helm?
That happened during Brubaker's first arc.

[sabongero]

Bru's Daredevil has been solid since he took over for Bendis. I think if Bru wasn't working on Captain America and the attention C.A. has garnered, that Daredevil would be Bru's most popular work today.

[sabongero]

Is Bru just off temporarily and then coming back to this series, or off permanently ?

[Libaax]

I think he is gone permanently.

What i really wonder if Lark is staying or not. His Daredevil work has been gorgeous.

[miss_terry]

I think he is gone permanently.

What i really wonder if Lark is staying or not. His Daredevil work has been gorgeous.

Oh i'll miss brubaker on this title. i loved his work here it just complemented bendis's run. whoever is the new writer, i hope that at least michael lark stays on the title at least for a couple of storyarcs.

[arp2008]

DD under Bru is unquestionalbly Marvels best monthly comic book bar NONE! Not even Cap. Nothing I have any knowledge of in Marvels publishing line come close in comparison. This is a 5 star book by all means. and I'm greatly hard pressed to believe Mr. Diggle will sustain the quality when he unfortunately takes over, for what I've seen of his work doesn't impress me in the least.

What i really wonder if Lark is staying or not. His Daredevil work has been gorgeous.Nope. He'll be leaving right along with Bru when the new creative team takes over.

[jackdaw53]

I'll miss Ed Brubaker on Daredevil. Been a very good run. But I think overall the Brian Bendis run was even better. DD's been a terrific comic for a long time now. My plan is to give new guy at least three issues, then decide what to do. Is that what most people are doing?

Anyway... going back to Mr Ed. I reckon he's on song on just about everything he's doing right now. My plan is to read Criminal and Incognito in trade... but only because I missed out on early issues of these comics... I'd have happily have bought them each month.

[killerbass]

I'll miss Ed Brubaker on Daredevil. Been a very good run. But I think overall the Brian Bendis run was even better. DD's been a terrific comic for a long time now. My plan is to give new guy at least three issues, then decide what to do. Is that what most people are doing?

I'll give it the first arc. I have a complete uninterupted run of the second volume of Daredevil so... we'll see.

I have Diggle's complete run on Thunderbolts so far, and it's OK. It's certainly not at the calibre of Bendis and Brubaker on Daredevil, but it's certainly better than the issue that Quesada and Palmiotti wrote. :tongue:

Just my two cents,
Tom

P.S. 700th post! Woo!

[arp2008]

I'll miss Ed Brubaker on Daredevil. Been a very good run. But I think overall the Brian Bendis run was even better. DD's been a terrific comic for a long time now. My plan is to give new guy at least three issues, then decide what to do. Is that what most people are doing?

Anyway... going back to Mr Ed. I reckon he's on song on just about everything he's doing right now. My plan is to read Criminal and Incognito in trade... but only because I missed out on early issues of these comics... I'd have happily have bought them each month.Which arc of Bendis' run would you say is the strongest?

[striderhirryu2]

The Murdock Papers

I'll give Bru 5 stars for the Devil in Cellblock D but everything else seems like 4.5ish.

[miss_terry]

I voted 4 maybe because I liked the Bendis run too much. But Ed definitely did a really good job and hope he comes back in the title in the future.

[cicerobuck]

So who's the new artist coming onboard?

[artiepants]

I think it's been so consistently fantastic i sometimes forgot how good it is. Lark and Guadino(sp?) have also just killed (nearly) the entire run.

[bdk91939]

You know, since Ed is leaving the title, Lark will be following shortly. So that they can make room for the new creative team for the title. I want to see the following person assume the pencil duties on this title regardless of who is writing:

DAVID AJA !

I want to see his interpretation of Daredevil's action sequences. This guy ROCKS!

[bdk91939]

You know, since Ed is leaving the title, Lark will be following shortly. So that they can make room for the new creative team for the title. I want to see the following person assume the pencil duties on this title regardless of who is writing:

DAVID AJA !

I want to see his interpretation of Daredevil's action sequences. This guy ROCKS!

[oldschool]

The Murdock Papers

I'll give Bru 5 stars for the Devil in Cellblock D but everything else seems like 4.5ish.

I'll have what he's having. Plus the fact that he followed probably the great run on this title since the days of Frank Miller without missing a beat cannot be overemphasized. Big props to you, Bru!

[yadadaimhollaing]

hopefully bru hasnt told all the daredevil stories he wanted to tell. love to see him come back in the future.

[striderhirryu2]

He did say that he's leaving because it's the best jumping off point because he wants more time to do screenwriting and maybe creator owned stuff.

[yadadaimhollaing]

He did say that he's leaving because it's the best jumping off point because he wants more time to do screenwriting and maybe creator owned stuff.

by chance do you have a link or anything where it talks about bru leaving?

[sabongero]

Guys Ed's last storyline was Lady Bullseye right? How'd you like it?

[Pheonix-NoRelation]

I'm not going to vote because I've never read DD consistently by any other author. That being said, I always look forward to reading DD and Captain America because I find Ed Brubaker's writing wonderful.

[Pheonix-NoRelation]

by chance do you have a link or anything where it talks about bru leaving?

This is the preview for DD #500 from Marvel.com:

THE STORY:
This is it! The 500th issue of DAREDEVIL! What is the Kingpin's true plan? What do he and Lady Bullseye have in common? What will Matt Murdock do to make things right again? And just how will Ed Brubaker and Michael Lark leave this story for the next creative team to pick it up? Don’t miss the twists and surprises that will have everybody talking! An all-star anniversary issue featuring new stories by Ann Nocenti, David Aja, and others! New and Reprint/Rated T …$4.99

[Mobey Wee]

The Murdock Papers

I'll give Bru 5 stars for the Devil in Cellblock D but everything else seems like 4.5ish.

I have the lady bullseye stuff sitting unread still, but everything up to that, i give 5 stars.

[killerbass]

I am excited and dreading issue 500.

I am excited about how Brubaker is going to end his run on DD. On the other hand, I am dreading the new team taking over. I have nothing against Diggle or De La Torre -- I have just loved what Bendis and Brubaker have done on the title.

They have a tough standard to live up to. :evilsmile:

(By the way, I got to meet Bendis and Brubaker at Heroes Con and tell them how much I love their work on Daredevil...)

--Tom

[bjmorga]

Early on in Brubaker's run, I would have given it a 5. However, i went with a 4 because it's just lacking something. For lack of a better word, Daredevil has become too emo. It seems most of the issues in the past year have had Daredevil whining more than doing anything.

[striderhirryu2]

by chance do you have a link or anything where it talks about bru leaving?

http://www.ifanboy.com/podcasts/audio/Talksplode__9_with_Ed_Brubaker_of_Captain_America_ _Incognito__Daredevil__and_Angel_of_Death

Bonus: Bru says that when he retires, he wants to write Jughead comics:biggrin:

[ScottyQuick]

There's been a significant drop in quality from #100 on, and some iffy stuff with women, but his early stuff was pretty good.

[Libaax]

I think it has great arcs like Mr Fear,Lady Bullseye. Only minus it was very dark and not much fun time for DD have a feeling being on top for a while.

I would rank it 4.5 cause only Frank Miller is 5/5 in DD for me(of the runs i have read).

If he had longer time he could have done even greater stories.

[durty dee]

I really can't stand Brubaker. His Cap and DD seem to just drag on and on and on.....

I dropped DD when they revealed Mrs. Fisk as the villian in a arc.

I dropped Cap when I found out his girlfriend was pregnant..... then she lost the baby... all that for nothing

Bendis was WAY better with DD. I gave him 3 stars.

[miss_terry]

Given Andy's run in Daredevil right now, you kind of miss that Brubaker pacing and movement of story.

[daveageallen]

i think brubaker has wrote the best daredevil stuff since the 80;s. then diggle.

[arp2008]

Given Andy's run in Daredevil right now, you kind of miss that Brubaker pacing and movement of story.Ditto. :frown:

[the goddamn batman]

Yeah I miss Bru/Lark/Gaudiano.