Who should be Magneto's Heir?

[IIX]

If the time has risen for Magnus to select a mutant that has his visions of mutant kind. Who would it be?

[IronKing]

Well Quicksilver has pretty much deteriorated mentally, so there's not much stopping him. I always loved the character, so it's kinda sad to see.

Exodus would be good. I just don't like him enough to give him that role.

Hmmm...good question. Someone we already know and are attached to. I'll think about that.

[La Fea]

Elixir.

Yes, please.

[Monty_Cristo]

Shortpack? or Vulcan just to eff w/ Charles.

[Brian M.]

I like the idea of Elixir a lot. I think two early choices are Elixir or Hellion. At first I could really see them being the new Xavier/Magneto. Now I think they both could be potentially really evil. It'd be interesting.

[IronKing]

Elixir is a great character. I'd rather see him on the good side, but hey...if someone's gotta be the #1 baddy, might as well be someone badass.

[Omega Alpha]

If Magneto died or retired right now, he wouldn't have anything for anyone to inherit, just debts. Like Xavier said and he agreed, their ideologies have become irrelevant. To have someone that thinks exactly the way he does would only generate another irrelevant figure, like he and Chuck are now.

[jmc247]

There are alot of characters that can play mutant supremacist villian of the year like Exodus.

But, as for who should be Magneto's heir that is an entirely different question. I think Magneto was pretty clear about who he wants to be his heir as shown in Uncanny 443 when he named Polaris as his heir.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/heir.jpg

But, right now with the mutant race almost wiped out all of Magneto's major ideas on how to protect mutantkind are worthless right now. Lets say M-Day is undone in 5 years and one would have to pick the attributes Magneto would want in a heir I suspect the list would look something like this.

1. Good leadership skills
2. Has a decient power set
3. Cares about mutant rights
4. Understands the stakes
5. Deep down is a good person
6. Is not fighting for personal aggrandizement or power
7. Really does not want the job of being a mutant massiah, but forced into it for the greater good

[Monty_Cristo]

There are alot of characters that can play mutant supremacist villian of the year like Exodus.

But, as for who should be Magneto's heir that is an entirely different question. I think Magneto was pretty clear about who he wants to be his heir as shown in Uncanny 443 when he named Polaris as his heir. But, right now with the mutant race almost wiped out all of Magneto's major ideas on how to protect mutantkind are worthless right now.

Lets say M-Day is undone in 5 years and one would have to pick the attributes Magneto would want in a heir I suspect the list would look something like this.

1. Good leadership skills
2. Has a decient power set
3. Cares about mutant rights
4. Understands the stakes
5. Deep down is a good person
6. Is not fighting for personal aggrandizement or power
7. Really does not want the job of being a mutant massiah, but forced into it for the greater good

so then we're talking about Charles Xavier.

[Monty_Cristo]

If Magneto died or retired right now, he wouldn't have anything for anyone to inherit, just debts. Like Xavier said and he agreed, their ideologies have become irrelevant. To have someone that thinks exactly the way he does would only generate another irrelevant figure, like he and Chuck are now.

hah! if his ideologies are so irrelevant, then what is Exodus fighting for? why are the Acolytes still around? what exactly would be the new idealogy that is so different from what Magneto fought for? there are three modes of operation.

1. mutants should rule

2. humans and mutants should get along

3. humans and mutants should live separate from one another

Magneto has tried all 3


and looking at how Cyclops is now operating, Magneto's way is best. Erik would be completely behind hunting down the Purifiers and killing them.

[jmc247]

so then we're talking about Charles Xavier.

Charles Xavier with a more proactive set of views about how to protect mutants. Someone who has actually been through a genocide like Lorna has and doesn't trust in the inherent goodness of people like Xavier. The biggest thing seperating Magneto and Lorna from Xavier is they don't trust or believe in the inherent goodness of people and nations.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/Polarisd.jpg

Right now Magneto would likely say that Cyke is doing the right thing for the current time.

[ChristosSoter]

Elixir. Definitely.

It needs to someone who's crazy powerful. He is "the next Magneto". What Shadowcat says is law. Pure and simple.

[podmark]

I think Pietro is currently a good choice once he pulls himself together.

Elixir is an interesting one. So much raw lethal power, he could make a great villain.
Hellion's an obvious choice too.

[Jack Flash]

I vote for Crazy Po!

[EC1231]

Prodigy:Cyclops would be an awesome next gen Magneto:Xavier. Cyke takes Prodigy under his wing, molds him to be just like him, Prodigy takes it to the next level (even ups the psychic love by bedding all 3 Stepfords).

[RickyD410]

Prodigy:Cyclops would be an awesome next gen Magneto:Xavier. Cyke takes Prodigy under his wing, molds him to be just like him, Prodigy takes it to the next level (even ups the psychic love by bedding all 3 Stepfords).

I was gona say the same thing. And I am a huge Prodigy/Cuckoos shipper. Celeste particularly. And we do know they're kinda into him now... (Thanks Carey!! :biggrin: )

[Hakael]

Prodigy takes it to the next level (even ups the psychic love by bedding all 3 Stepfords).

Wouldn't be the first time...:biggrin:

I think this is a good idea, Nori and David had a pretty poisonous relationship

[Hakael]

Double post... meh.

[Jeff-X]

I think I'd like to see Cyclops keep going in this direction, just keep getting more Magneto-esq, at least in the way that you could always look at what Magento was saying and see his point, sometimes he made more sense than Xavier. The rift between Cyclops and Xavier is growing too large to close now, and there are more stories to tell if it opens further than there are if we close it back up and go back to what it was.

Emma cares about him to the point that she'd stay with him. He's been shown as not telling her about everything, like X-Force, but she could easily be swayed/convinced to see his points.
They could just stay the power couple and keep getting more proactive until the rest of the X-Men have to take a step back and take a stance against them.

Of course, he wouldn't really be "evil," he would just end up being something the whole X-Mythos doesn't represent. I would love to see him go out and form his own Brotherhood of Mutants, or a new MLF even.

Then after he left the X-Men (although some would likely follow him) to strike out on his own the remaining X-Men would still have a bunch of leaders, but no one to really rally them together, which would help them to mend some fences with Xavier once the whole Legacy thing runs its course since they'd likely accept his appologies and let him back into the fold to rally behind against what Cyclops is doing.

So it would be Cyclops and co out attacking the Purifiers, while the X-Men are trying to stop him and being counter attacked by the Purifiers themselves, and of course all this would make the news in the way everything makes the news these days and it would be reported that the X-Men were attacking a church full of worshippers. Right back to protecting a world that hates and fears them.

[ProfeZZor X]

Hmmm.... Let's see.

I wouldn't count on Wanda.

[rZi]

I personaly don't feel as though anyone is worthy yet of the magnus-status. He's like on FBI's most wanted along with Dr.Doom and Venom according to mark millar's MK's so who could you see living upto that potential?

[Kage Kisaragi]

who says it has to be a mutant?

I think a certain son of ultron would be a great choice.

[Kage Kisaragi]

I personaly don't feel as though anyone is worthy yet of the magnus-status. He's like on FBI's most wanted along with Dr.Doom and Venom according to mark millar's MK's so who could you see living upto that potential?

Victorious apparently.

[PatchMadripoor]

I agree with the previous post of Polaris. She's been his aide and power "back up" when he ruled Genosha and did much good during her tenure.

[Mwahaha]

I think Polaris would be perfect.

Elixir sounds good, but Colossus took him out easily in New X-men. Send the Russian to take care of the kid and it's over.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Wouldn't be the first time...:biggrin:

I think this is a good idea, Nori and David had a pretty poisonous relationship

Uhh, what comics were you reading? They had like one falling out because of her controlling bitch/mother goose nature. For crying out he freaking got to attend the school, and he even introduced her to his kid sister and I don't think she would have destroyed her room when he broke it off with her if their relationship was indeed poisonous, but I cool with the idea that everyone wants her to **** Hellion or Armor as oppose to a guy who had her back through thick and thin.

[Kage Kisaragi]

I think Polaris would be perfect.

Elixir sounds good, but Colossus took him out easily in New X-men. Send the Russian to take care of the kid and it's over.

Which is retarded since Colossus is still ORGANIC steel, even more so since he was able to effect Colossus Hulk bent his stupid arms backwards.

[Sanctus]

Magneto's heir has to be Hellion. He is crazy powerful and dedicated to Mutants, not conquering the world for its own sake. He could probably give all of the other New X-Men a run for their money, only being taken down by their combined powers and Prodigy's superior intellect much like Magneto, Xavier and the X-Men dynamic.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Magneto's heir has to be Hellion. He is crazy powerful and dedicated to Mutants, not conquering the world for its own sake. He could probably give all of the other New X-Men a run for their money, only being taken down by their combined powers and Prodigy's superior intellect much like Magneto, Xavier and the X-Men dynamic.

Not bad, but a lot of Hellion's fans would hate this development, as it would constantly mean he was destined to get beat up and probably gutted by Laura out of love or whatever passes for love with her. :wink:

[ToxicTeen]

I don't know about Magneto's heir but I have a good guess on who's going to be Selene's heir...:wink:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Magneto's heir has to be Hellion. He is crazy powerful and dedicated to Mutants, not conquering the world for its own sake. He could probably give all of the other New X-Men a run for their money, only being taken down by their combined powers and Prodigy's superior intellect much like Magneto, Xavier and the X-Men dynamic.

Or have this summer's Astonishing team murder him in about ten seconds. Nine of which spent sending Wolvie to his doom for a goof..

[Sanctus]

Not bad, but a lot of Hellion's fans would hate this development, as it would constantly mean he was destined to get beat up and probably gutted by Laura out of love or whatever passes for love with her. :wink:

His fans should not be too disappointed if he is portrayed as a misguided freedom fighter doing whatever it takes to protect his people. Also, he should loose most of the time, but not in a grand way. Hellion has the freakish appeal and charm to make his a really charismatic baddy like Luthor, Doom, Mags and Emma.

[ChristosSoter]

His fans should not be too disappointed if he is portrayed as a misguided freedom fighter doing whatever it takes to protect his people. Also, he should loose most of the time, but not in a grand way. Hellion has the freakish appeal and charm to make his a really charismatic baddy like Luthor, Doom, Mags and Emma.
I would be very dissappointed.

During Academy X he was voted "Most likely to become an X-man".

[Sanctus]

I would be very dissappointed.

During Academy X he was voted "Most likely to become an X-man".

The difference between being an X-Man and being a X-Verse villain isn't really that great. Emma, Mystique, Mags, Sabretooth, Colossus, Polaris, X-23 and Bishop are just a few of the crossover between the heroes and the vills. Hellion would make a great Supervillain.

[DDM]

Magneto does not need an heir; he would find the idea ludicrous.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Hellion would make a great Supervillain.

Maybe in a couple of years.

In his current state of mind, I don't quite see how he'd be that different from a Vulcan-light..

[Sanctus]

Maybe in a couple of years.

In his current state of mind, I don't quite see how he'd be that different from a Vulcan-light..

Vulcan is a psycho summers' brother (they all (including cable the son) need to be taken behind the shed, stripped naked and shot through the back of the head with the exception of Scott.) Hellion is at least rational if impulsive, and a friend to many of the X-Men, making his dynamic with them as a supervillain more nuanced and interesting under the right writer.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Vulcan is a psycho summers' brother (they all (including cable the son) need to be taken behind the shed, stripped naked and shot through the back of the head with the exception of Scott.) Hellion is at least rational if impulsive, and a friend to many of the X-Men, making his dynamic with them as a supervillain more nuanced and interesting under the right writer.

He's currently having a knee-jerk reaction to mommy/daddy/authorityfigure and grieving issues.

Fits the motif that spawned Vulcan's madness to a tee.

[Mwahaha]

Which is retarded since Colossus is still ORGANIC steel, even more so since he was able to effect Colossus Hulk bent his stupid arms backwards.

Colossus just has to throw a "Falling wall":rolleyes: to have that kid go unconscious.

[Mitteloss]

I agree with jmc 247.

There are many mutants who could be the next big bad mutant supremacist villian, if there would be enough mutants to start with.

But Magneto's real heir would be Polaris. I'd like to see her promote the more noble side of Magneto and Magneto as a man who could be reasoned with. Maybe even use her status as his 'true' named heir to swing some of Magneto's followers to the good side. But the fact that she herself isn't a mutant anymore might prove an obstacle.

[Sanctus]

If Sunspot received a power boost making him more impervious to physical attacks as well as allowing him to generate a heat field around him hot enough to melt most projectiles, he would also make a good heir to Magneto. To add a bit drama to his assumption of most feared mutant, he should date/have an on again off again romance Monet. Cannonball should also get a leadership boost, making him a heir if Xavier. Scott can be shot in the back of the head as mentioned earlier, thus ending any in-fighting for command of Xavier's legacy.

[ExodusCloak]

Let's have a list:

Family Members:
Quicksilver
Wanda
Polaris

Wiccan
Luna
Speed

And

His biggest Scion Exodus

[darknessatnoon]

Polaris.

She was DIVINE at her wedding, when she turned the silverware into a Magnetta costume!

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Colossus just has to throw a "Falling wall":rolleyes: to have that kid go unconscious.

Awww, come on.

The irony of a deus ex machina being taken out by an off-panel (arguably even lamer) deus ex machina *was* amusing.

[jmc247]

But the fact that she herself isn't a mutant anymore might prove an obstacle.

That wouldn't be much of an obstacle, because it is a fact only known by a handful of X-Men.

But, long term of course see needs her X-gene back.

[Maestro]

Julian Keller

[darknessatnoon]

Julian Keller

I don't even like Magneto, but I still find that answer offensive.

[Monty_Cristo]

If Sunspot received a power boost making him more impervious to physical attacks as well as allowing him to generate a heat field around him hot enough to melt most projectiles, he would also make a good heir to Magneto. To add a bit drama to his assumption of most feared mutant, he should date/have an on again off again romance Monet. Cannonball should also get a leadership boost, making him a heir if Xavier. Scott can be shot in the back of the head as mentioned earlier, thus ending any in-fighting for command of Xavier's legacy.

so basically we're talking about Reignfire.


why not have Kid Omega come back and grow up?

[Sanctus]

so basically we're talking about Reignfire.


why not have Kid Omega come back and grow up?

Did Reignfire have those abilities?

Kid Omega does not work because like Vulcan, he is just crazy. Marvel needs more nuanced villains to replace Magneto who was such a good villain because his message had a certain amount of appeal and rationality to it.

[Monty_Cristo]

Did Reignfire have those abilities?

there's nothing that would have stopped him from doing that. he was much more experienced w/ Bobby's powers than Bobby, himself.

Kid Omega does not work because like Vulcan, he is just crazy. Marvel needs more nuanced villains to replace Magneto who was such a good villain because his message had a certain amount of appeal and rationality to it.

fair enough. but look at Exodus? he's just as unbalanced and thinks he's Magneto's heir. Magneto was definately molding him for something like that.

[Diablito]

Hellion I guess.

[Mitteloss]

That wouldn't be much of an obstacle, because it is a fact only known by a handful of X-Men.


I'm sure the Acolytes for example, unless they've learnt the truth through Gambit or Sunfire, have or could get access to technology that would allow them to know whether Lorna's a mutant or just a human. And then there's telepaths like Exodus, who'd instead of follow Lorna, read her mind and reveal the truth.

[Tobias Drake]

Yeah, I gotta go with Hellion too.

[darknessatnoon]

Yeah, I gotta go with Hellion too.

Magneto is an obsessed sociopath. He does not deal with dilettantes.

[jmc247]

I'm sure the Acolytes for example, unless they've learnt the truth through Gambit or Sunfire, have or could get access to technology that would allow them to know whether Lorna's a mutant or just a human. And then there's telepaths like Exodus, who'd instead of follow Lorna, read her mind and reveal the truth.

And, yet I am betting Magneto will surprise everyone and eventually come out that he is really powered as Bru has said he is.

One thing Lorna has to do if she is ever to be a mutant leader is find ways of blocking telepathy and telepathic attack. Magneto has found ways of blocking certain thoughts from the likes of Xavier and I am betting Exodus as well even with his helmet off.

But, yes she also needs her X-gene back eventually.

[Onslaught Reborn]

Jullian Keller, humans? This is bad comedy.

Magneto chose his One True Heir back in 1993, and left his island to his saner daughter in 2004. He needs no angry teenagers.

[Hakael]

Imma have to agree, Julian has the potential to be a bad guy on Magneto's level... he's not there yet. In fact, he's quite a ways off.

If he ever goes down the dark path, I hope its after he's matured a bit. The "mutant supremacist" issue right now ties into his ego, much like how Magneto told him. He's arrogant. Julian thinks he's superior to his mutant peers, not just humanity.

Tie that into his want to be heroic, and he's a ways off from being the next mutant baddie.

[Matthew K.]

I like the idea of Quicksilver, Elixir or Hellion.

Hellion could make a for a nice contrast on the side of bad--if he were to take on a role comparable to earlier days Magento, with X23 on the opposite side (perhaps taking on a classic Wolverine role for the X-Men), and may be they'd still longing for one another and what they had...but feel torn asunder because of their convictions and the lives they've choosen to lead.

In the long run (or even the shorter) that's an angle that could be worked and hold a small mirror to the Magneto vs. Xavier friendship turned war turned rivalry.

(sorry RG...it had to be said...)

[mcgaffer]

He could keep it in the family, kind of. What about Nocturne, alternate reality daughter of Scarlet Witch.
So she has the Scarlet Witch for a mother, Polaris for an aunt, Quicksilver for an uncle, Magneto for a grandad, Mystique for a grandmother and the demon Azazel for a grandfather too, more then a little crazy in her genes.

[Maestro]

When Julian takes over the world, the first person he should kill is Emma for being so rude to him

[Kage Kisaragi]

When Julian takes over the world, the first person he should kill is Emma for being so rude to him

:confused: Come again?

If Julian ever degenerates back to his old Academy X self, you know back when he was a pompous arrogant jerk, then yes. He would make for a excellent villain, however the current touchy feely Julian who is all about fair play and honesty isn't exactly the beacon of malevolence.

[EC1231]

I was gona say the same thing. And I am a huge Prodigy/Cuckoos shipper. Celeste particularly. And we do know they're kinda into him now... (Thanks Carey!! :biggrin: )

Wouldn't be the first time...:biggrin:

I think this is a good idea, Nori and David had a pretty poisonous relationship

Huzzah! All aboard the "Prodigy, heir to Magneto" Express. Whoo whoo!

[ChristosSoter]

I'm just waiting for the book where Cyclops becomes so much like Magneto, that Mercury is forced to gut him with an arm-blade. But not enough to actually kill him, she's above that. She would stab until he drowns in his own blood.
MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IronKing]

:confused: Come again?

If Julian ever degenerates back to his old Academy X self, you know back when he was a pompous arrogant jerk, then yes. He would make for a excellent villain, however the current touchy feely Julian who is all about fair play and honesty isn't exactly the beacon of malevolence.

I don't think you've read Divided We Stand.

A better thread title would be "Who should replace Magneto?" Everyone keeps talking about Magneto's ideals being outdated so there's no need for an heir. Okay then, who should become the X-Men's #1 baddy? That's a little more clear.

[rescura]

Havok, after returning from space, havin failed in his revenge against Vulcan and disappointed at Cyclops' position at the whole new status-quo of the X-men, unites with Polaris as the new bad-asses :rolleyes:

[Kage Kisaragi]

I don't think you've read Divided We Stand.

A better thread title would be "Who should replace Magneto?" Everyone keeps talking about Magneto's ideals being outdated so there's no need for an heir. Okay then, who should become the X-Men's #1 baddy? That's a little more clear.

i just did earlier yesterday, but it wasnt before i made that post :wink: