Worst Anime Ideas Ever

[Vakanai]

Whether it be a story arc, character interaction, or just the whole damn show. Worst ideas for anime ever.

[Wjowski]

Anything that involves vast, ancient conspiracies revolving around children's pastimes.

[nervmeister]

Doing an anime version of a football drama (forgot the name). If you thought the Prince of Tennis was jacked up, you aint seen nothing quite like a spiky-haired blonde psycho in a football jersey and wielding a machine gun. And he's on the good guy's team!

[OverMaster]

One word.

Eiken.

[Kevin M.]

Doing an anime version of a football drama (forgot the name). If you thought the Prince of Tennis was jacked up, you aint seen nothing quite like a spiky-haired blonde psycho in a football jersey and wielding a machine gun. And he's on the good guy's team!


You mean Eyeshield 21. Personally, I think it is pretty funny take on American Football.

[nervmeister]

You mean Eyeshield 21. Personally, I think it is pretty funny take on American Football.Yep! That's the one!

[Emperor Time]

The one where they play ping-pong as a exciting sport.

[Len Ikari145]

One word.

Eiken.

Yeah, what the fuck was that about? It nearly made me swear off Hentai forever.

[Nik Hasta]

Bloody Beyblade.

That was a bad move.

[Kevin M.]

Hikaru no Go.

Why this was made, I have no idea.

[Mormel]

Bloody Beyblade.

That was a bad move.Co-signed.

[SwordChucksMaster78]

Bloody Beyblade.

That was a bad move.

Thirded. That show just plain sucked.

[Kevin M.]

Bloody Beyblade.

That was a bad move.


Fourth-signed


The show was epic suck!!!!!

[Ghost]

Doing an anime version of a football drama (forgot the name). If you thought the Prince of Tennis was jacked up, you aint seen nothing quite like a spiky-haired blonde psycho in a football jersey and wielding a machine gun. And he's on the good guy's team!

Wait, you don't like Hiruma?

He was the most entertaining thing in that whole manga! :tongue:

[KnownAsWilf]

Hikaru no Go.

Why this was made, I have no idea.

I liked Hikaru no Go. :frown:

There wasn't the level of sillyness that Beyblade, Yu-Gi-Oh!, and Pokemon had. The games were taken seriously, but no one pretended that lives were at stake. If people can enjoy Light Yagami writing in a note book they can enjoy people putting stones on a wooden board. The drama came from the characters more than the plot.

Disagree if you want, I'm not looking to change anyones mind (for once :biggrin: )

[Emperor Time]

I agree that Hikaru no Go is great and it has the same artist as Death Note too.

[nervmeister]

Wait, you don't like Hiruma?

He was the most entertaining thing in that whole manga! :tongue:I didn't say it sucked. But it's still the most jacked-up take on American football that I've ever seen.

[Ghost]

I liked Hikaru no Go. :frown:

There wasn't the level of sillyness that Beyblade, Yu-Gi-Oh!, and Pokemon had. The games were taken seriously, but no one pretended that lives were at stake. If people can enjoy Light Yagami writing in a note book they can enjoy people putting stones on a wooden board. The drama came from the characters more than the plot.

Disagree if you want, I'm not looking to change anyones mind (for once :biggrin: )

Actually, I agree. A shounen manga about go seems silly on paper but what I read of it was handled very well. They took the game rather seriously, but only on the same level as any game played professionally in real life. It certainly shouldn't be mentioned in the same context as, say, Beyblade.


I didn't say it sucked. But it's still the most jacked-up take on American football that I've ever seen.

Point. However, considering that this thread is titled "Worst Anime Ideas Ever", you might see how I got the wrong impression of your post.

[nervmeister]

Wait, you don't like Hiruma?

He was the most entertaining thing in that whole manga! :tongue:Never read it, so i dont know. All I know is that he looks psychotic.

[Ghost]

Never read it, so i dont know. All I know is that he looks psychotic.

Well, he's definitely not normal, and I wouldn't want to run into someone like him in real life. But, really, that's what makes him so entertaining. I find it hard not to be amused by a guy who managed to steal the opposing team's cheerleaders as a morale boosting tactic. :wink:

[nervmeister]

Well, he's definitely not normal, and I wouldn't want to run into someone like him in real life. But, really, that's what makes him so entertaining. I find it hard not to be amused by a guy who managed to steal the opposing team's cheerleaders as a morale boosting tactic. :wink:Jesus Christ! :eek:

[Sound Silence]

The last arc of the Rurouni Kenshin anime.

[Movie-Brat]

M.D. Geist. That one sucked.

[abmccray]

The one where they play ping-pong as a exciting sport.

I never saw an anime about ping pong, but Ping Pong was a GREAT Japanese movie.

[Emperor Time]

I never saw an anime about ping pong, but Ping Pong was a GREAT Japanese movie.

That because the anime was so horrible that they cancel it before they made a single episode. :biggrin:

[Ant Crown]

Mini Gundams aka Gundam SD

[BYC]

Seinfeld done in anime.

[God_of_Awesome]

Doing an anime version of a football drama (forgot the name). If you thought the Prince of Tennis was jacked up, you aint seen nothing quite like a spiky-haired blonde psycho in a football jersey and wielding a machine gun. And he's on the good guy's team!

I now must see this.

Like the fist of an angry god I must.

[Guy1]

Whether it be a story arc, character interaction, or just the whole damn show. Worst ideas for anime ever.

The Sasuke show.

[Wjowski]

The Sasuke show.

Funnily enough...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_Warrior

[Phrozen]

The 2nd Season of Big O.

The first season does a great job of giving hints to the supposed backstory and building a great mystery to what actually happened.

The 2nd season ruins it by having it be some sort of computer simulation which was quite lame.

[Kevin M.]

Well, he's definitely not normal, and I wouldn't want to run into someone like him in real life. But, really, that's what makes him so entertaining. I find it hard not to be amused by a guy who managed to steal the opposing team's cheerleaders as a morale boosting tactic. :wink:


I played with someone like him during high school

[Daemon]

I liked Hikaru no Go. :frown:

There wasn't the level of sillyness that Beyblade, Yu-Gi-Oh!, and Pokemon had. The games were taken seriously, but no one pretended that lives were at stake. If people can enjoy Light Yagami writing in a note book they can enjoy people putting stones on a wooden board. The drama came from the characters more than the plot.

Disagree if you want, I'm not looking to change anyones mind (for once :biggrin: )

Except for the ending. I hated the ending I dont want to draw my own conclusions to what may or may not happen in the near or further down the road future i want to see it now, and by now I mean if not now then broken up into weekly releases till I gets me an ending damnit!

[Tlaloc01]

I would have to say Gayblade as well.

Kaleido Star comes close too.

[Sharkerbob]

The 2nd Season of Big O.

The first season does a great job of giving hints to the supposed backstory and building a great mystery to what actually happened.

The 2nd season ruins it by having it be some sort of computer simulation which was quite lame.

I notice that with some animes, just cop-out endings in general. Some shows its like they spend all this time doing the build up, and then completely forgot, or never even bothered, to come up with the actual ending they were building up to. Or they get to an climax, and it ends up lame, or it just gets resolved by something weird just happening without any real explanation.

My vote is: the "mid-season recap episode". Seriously, why is this so damn prevelant? Most of the time, its not even legitimate flashbacking, and usually isn't even structured well enough to be a true summary. And worst of all, some of th shows that do it the most are the ones that only have, what, 26 episodes to them? Do we really need to waste an entire episode that could have been used for something else on a recap filler?

[The MunchKING]

Alright we'll take these three Greek Gods, three Norse Gods, and pit them in a giant battle against each other and the Judeo/Christian God!! Then we throw some devils and demons just out to destroy humanity...

And then we end the first episode indecisevly and turn the whole thing into a DATING Harem manga as they ALL fall in love with a completly normal guy!! Only it turns out they are being manipulated by these video games ordinary people play in the real world. Thus people's skill with this game totally will mess with the powers and plot of our various factions!!

YES!! It's brilliant!! throw in some gratitous Catgirls and Mecha and we've got an Anime to TOTALLY take over those silly Americans' brains!!

[Sound Silence]

I notice that with some animes, just cop-out endings in general. Some shows its like they spend all this time doing the build up, and then completely forgot, or never even bothered, to come up with the actual ending they were building up to. Or they get to an climax, and it ends up lame, or it just gets resolved by something weird just happening without any real explanation.

My vote is: the "mid-season recap episode". Seriously, why is this so damn prevelant? Most of the time, its not even legitimate flashbacking, and usually isn't even structured well enough to be a true summary. And worst of all, some of th shows that do it the most are the ones that only have, what, 26 episodes to them? Do we really need to waste an entire episode that could have been used for something else on a recap filler?

I gotta agree with you. It seems like they're trying to be complex or artistic or something...but it never gets across.

Of course, most long running series have their version of "On The Last Episode of Dragon Ball Z".

[Sound Silence]

Alright we'll take these three Greek Gods, three Norse Gods, and pit them in a giant battle against each other and the Judeo/Christian God!! Then we throw some devils and demons just out to destroy humanity...

And then we end the first episode indecisevly and turn the whole thing into a DATING Harem manga as they ALL fall in love with a completly normal guy!! Only it turns out they are being manipulated by these video games ordinary people play in the real world. Thus people's skill with this game totally will mess with the powers and plot of our various factions!!

YES!! It's brilliant!! throw in some gratitous Catgirls and Mecha and we've got an Anime to TOTALLY take over those silly Americans' brains!!

What anime is this??

[Fallman]

Alright we'll take these three Greek Gods, three Norse Gods, and pit them in a giant battle against each other and the Judeo/Christian God!! Then we throw some devils and demons just out to destroy humanity...

And then we end the first episode indecisevly and turn the whole thing into a DATING Harem manga as they ALL fall in love with a completly normal guy!! Only it turns out they are being manipulated by these video games ordinary people play in the real world. Thus people's skill with this game totally will mess with the powers and plot of our various factions!!

YES!! It's brilliant!! throw in some gratitous Catgirls and Mecha and we've got an Anime to TOTALLY take over those silly Americans' brains!!

Guh? Could I have a name to go with this mess?

[Tommy]

Anything with Loli. Lolicon... the worst Anime idea ever...

[The MunchKING]

What anime is this??


Guh? Could I have a name to go with this mess?

Sweet!! i suceeded in coming up with an anime idea SO BAD people thought it was a real one. :wink:

The Opening post just said to rattle off the worst anime idea.

The only thing that's worse than this one will be finding hetai doshin about it on the Internet. :tongue:

[The MunchKING]

Guh? Could I have a name to go with this mess?

Hmmm... I'm thinking either "A.I. My Diety" or "Neko Deity-mon". :cool:

[Sound Silence]

Sweet!! i suceeded in coming up with an anime idea SO BAD people thought it was a real one. :wink:

The Opening post just said to rattle off the worst anime idea.

The only thing that's worse than this one will be finding hetai doshin about it on the Internet. :tongue:

That's it. Someone's D&D character is never coming out of the sewers.

[The MunchKING]

That's it. Someone's D&D character is never coming out of the sewers.

Oh well at least he'll have plenty to do down there, writing a new and horrific Anime series to inflict on your cities. ;)

[KamenRaida]

The entirety of Naruto Part II

The way I see it, there is very little that can save it now

[Sharpandpointies]

That's it. Someone's D&D character is never coming out of the sewers.

Just put out a hint that someone dropped a gold piece down a grate. He'll be down there for the rest of the campaign, straining the refuse with his magic...

:)

[The MunchKING]

Just put out a hint that someone dropped a gold piece down a grate. He'll be down there for the rest of the campaign, straining the refuse with his magic...

:)

Bah do I LOOK like Scrooge Mc Duck to you??

[Farealmer]

I notice that with some animes, just cop-out endings in general. Some shows its like they spend all this time doing the build up, and then completely forgot, or never even bothered, to come up with the actual ending they were building up to. Or they get to an climax, and it ends up lame, or it just gets resolved by something weird just happening without any real explanation.

My vote is: the "mid-season recap episode". Seriously, why is this so damn prevelant? Most of the time, its not even legitimate flashbacking, and usually isn't even structured well enough to be a true summary. And worst of all, some of th shows that do it the most are the ones that only have, what, 26 episodes to them? Do we really need to waste an entire episode that could have been used for something else on a recap filler?
I second this, every damn word.

[cosmic eagle]

Bloody Beyblade.

That was a bad move.

Yeah. Add to that yu gi oh and Duel Masters.

[Virgo Shaka/Yusuke]

Guys I wanna ask is 'Hell Girl' worth watching or is good for the 1st maybe 10 episodes then you get bored?

[Virgo Shaka/Yusuke]

'Slayers'
'Neon Genesis: Evangelion'
'Dears'

[Virgo Shaka/Yusuke]

'M.A.R' was pretty wierd!

[FalconX2000]

Hikaru no Go.

Why this was made, I have no idea.

Hikaru no Go rocked.:tongue: Even if it was a little melodramatic.

And they had the sense to cut out the manga's horrible ending, even if they didn't have the guts to create their own.

[FalconX2000]

The entirety of Naruto Part II

The way I see it, there is very little that can save it now

Aw, don't say that. It had about 6 or so good episodes amid all that crap.

[Ant Crown]

'Slayers'
NOW WHAT DID YOU SAY?

[Nik Hasta]

'Slayers'
'Neon Genesis: Evangelion'

I'd disagree strongly with you on these two.

Both are very good.

[Ant Crown]

I'd disagree strongly with you on these two.

Both are very good.

Eva is good for some people.

I like War to HOT BLOODED ASS KICKING.

[Ragnorok64]

I'm sure there's some way to fit Gundam Seed in here somewhere...

Ok, I know I couldn't be the only one who noticed that the entire begining of the series was just a modern rehash of the original Mobile Suit Gundam, with the level of Suck turned up to 11.

[T51R]

Saikano. If you love a great story, strong characters and excellent development then this is for you. If you're already emo-fied and considering slitting your own wrists, don't watch this because it'll depress you to the point you'll somehow learn Muso Tensei and dissapear...:tongue:

[cosmic eagle]

'Slayers'
'Neon Genesis: Evangelion'
'Dears'

I can very well say that this anime is actually one of the good ones.

[Nik Hasta]

Eva is good for some people.

I like War to HOT BLOODED ASS KICKING.

It's certainly not to everyone's tastes, but the story and depth of character are of a very high quality.

[sun tzu]

I liked Hikaru no Go. :frown:

There wasn't the level of sillyness that Beyblade, Yu-Gi-Oh!, and Pokemon had. The games were taken seriously, but no one pretended that lives were at stake. If people can enjoy Light Yagami writing in a note book they can enjoy people putting stones on a wooden board. The drama came from the characters more than the plot.

Disagree if you want, I'm not looking to change anyones mind (for once :biggrin: )

Hikaru No Go was great. Period.

[Kevin M.]

It's certainly not to everyone's tastes, but the story and depth of character are of a very high quality.


I have to agree. Eva is one of the best animes I have seen in my life.

[Alan2099]

Eva is a highly overrated peice of garbage without a single character that's not in need of deep therapy and an ending where the creator basically gave the bird to his entire audiance.

Heck, Rei was created as a joke. She was meant to be a pardoy of that silent emmotionally empy anime cliche and nobody even caught on to it.

[Kevin M.]

Eva is a highly overrated peice of garbage without a single character that's not in need of deep therapy and an ending where the creator basically gave the bird to his entire audiance.

Heck, Rei was created as a joke. She was meant to be a pardoy of that silent emmotionally empy anime cliche and nobody even caught on to it.


Like was stated above. Eva is not for everyone. But damn, you really hate this show.

[Alan2099]

Like was stated above. Eva is not for everyone. But damn, you really hate this show.

I don't care enough about it to hate it, and it actually had some decent mech and monster designs, but it's by no means the be-all-end-all series that most people want it to be.

[KnownAsWilf]

I agree that Hikaru no Go is great and it has the same artist as Death Note too.


Actually, I agree. A shounen manga about go seems silly on paper but what I read of it was handled very well. They took the game rather seriously, but only on the same level as any game played professionally in real life. It certainly shouldn't be mentioned in the same context as, say, Beyblade.



Hikaru no Go rocked.:tongue: Even if it was a little melodramatic.

And they had the sense to cut out the manga's horrible ending, even if they didn't have the guts to create their own.


Hikaru No Go was great. Period.

Good, I'm not the only one. As for why it was made, it was to get people interested in Go. I hear it was very succesful at this in Japan, and it even got to me in England after watching it on YouTube, I got to a strength of about 16 online before I went travelling.

[Kevin M.]

I don't care enough about it to hate it, and it actually had some decent mech and monster designs, but it's by no means the be-all-end-all series that most people want it to be.


It is one of the best anime series I have seen, but towards the end, everything started to go south. Don't even get me started on the movie.

[FalconX2000]

NOW WHAT DID YOU SAY?

How can anybody hate Slayers?!:eek:


Well, except for those unspeakable filler episodes before the climax in 'Try'....

[JDogindy]

I don't care enough about it to hate it, and it actually had some decent mech and monster designs, but it's by no means the be-all-end-all series that most people want it to be.

I second. While Eva does have some good design concepts, the main issue I have is that the characters have mostly BAD qualities that are constantly mentioned (i.e. Shinji's got bad issues with his dad and he's constantly called an "emo", Asuka comes off as a mean bitch who you just want to see smacked at times [although I do like her a little, and the only thing I like about the show], and Rei... well...). Plus, if I want to see a show that involves major battles and all that, I want to see action and have some positive things. To be honest, I just don't like Eva mainly because it comes off as boring and depressing.

Personally, the worst anime I can think of is Beyblades or Yu-Gi-Oh! GX. I like the original version, but I HATE the newer one.

[Darth Joker]

You know... what I like about Eva, in retrospect and after watching a lot of different anime shows, is that it's (intentionally or unintentionally) a critical look at various anime cliches and stock character types. It's these anime cliches/stock characters put in a more realistic world where happy events/happy endings aren't necessarily going to happen... and hence, all of the character flaws/inconsistencies of such anime cliches and stock characters are laid bare. It can make for good discussion.

There's plenty of anime characters like Shinji, Asuka, and Rei, with more or less the same character flaws/strengths/types. It's just that they tend to either be...

1) Saved by the laws of anime comedy physics, eventually getting stronger and becoming heroic, and/or plot device happy endings (the Shinji-types).

2) Are empowered by the Rage (tm) to overcome all obstacles, and/or end up being won over by one of the more caring characters (the Asuka-types).

3) Eventually come out of their shells and are won over by one of the more caring characters (the Rei-types).

NGE (or its movie, anyway) shows that, realistically speaking, this sort of consistant happy outcome isn't necessarily the case...

[OverMaster]

I gotta agree with you. It seems like they're trying to be complex or artistic or something...but it never gets across.

Of course, most long running series have their version of "On The Last Episode of Dragon Ball Z".

Well, Excel Saga and Nadesico succeed at this, but then again, they both made something especial and different with their recap episodes.

[OverMaster]

NOW WHAT DID YOU SAY?

Okay everyone, let's gangjump on him.

For retaliation, I'll say Saint Seiya. :tongue: OK, it's not so bad, but it's highly repetitive, and soon becomes a bad parody of itself.

[Darth Joker]

Well, Excel Saga and Nadesico succeed at this, but then again, they both made something especial and different with their recap episodes.

Excel Saga spoofed long recaps, and recap episodes, brilliantly I found. That's partly why it worked for them.

[NeonZ]

Heck, Rei was created as a joke. She was meant to be a pardoy of that silent emmotionally empy anime cliche and nobody even caught on to it.

Huh... Rei basically created(well, not really, but she popularized it) that archetype.

Anyway, as already mentioned, breaking down those characters was the best thing Eva did. You can watch many other shows and find similar characters overcoming their problems.

In Eva, they often did overcome some differences too, only to be utterly crushed by the next event.

[OverMaster]

Huh... Rei basically created(well, not really, but she popularized it) that archetype.


IIRC, it was Ruri Hoshino from Nadesico who was created as a parody of the Rei archetype.

Ruri, BTW, is 1122244587445588888 times better than Rei.

[Alan2099]

Huh... Rei basically created(well, not really, but she popularized it) that archetype.
I've read interviews with the guy. He was suprised taht Rei was as popular as she turned out to be since she was created as an exageration of everything that was wrong with that type of character.

It's a case of people completley missing the subtext in favor of the plain text.

[Tlaloc01]

IIRC, it was Ruri Hoshino from Nadesico who was created as a parody of the Rei archetype.

Ruri, BTW, is 1122244587445588888 times better than Rei.

Ruri is cool, but Rei is slightly better than her. It was Rei the one who popularized the stereotype. But before her there were Sailor Saturn, Kanuka from Patlabor and some others.

[KamenRaida]

Aw, don't say that. It had about 6 or so good episodes amid all that crap.

Ah right, I was lumping anime together with manga for a moment there.

In which case, I think the anime is so much more better than the manga. I liked how they actually gave abit of added developement to Sasori which the manga liked, and actually showed us the battle between Team Gai and their dopplegengars rather than taking the cheap route out like its manga counterpart.

In fact, I think the Omake sections did lampshade the declining quality once or twice (though obviously, that takes abit of inference, and I may just be reading too much into it)

[Shinuzzo]

I've read interviews with the guy. He was suprised taht Rei was as popular as she turned out to be since she was created as an exageration of everything that was wrong with that type of character.

It's a case of people completley missing the subtext in favor of the plain text.

Well, maybe if he hadn't her life so screwed up it would have worked. You can't help feeling sorry for her after everything she's been through.

[HectorP]

Okay everyone, let's gangjump on him.

For retaliation, I'll say Saint Seiya. :tongue: OK, it's not so bad, but it's highly repetitive, and soon becomes a bad parody of itself.

I'll be the first to say SS is one long tournament with nothing in between that lives on the nostalgia factor and is not for everyone. But eff the idea that it's part of any "worse ever", 'kay? :wink:


'Dears'

>_>

[JDogindy]

'Dears'

The only problem I have with this one is that it makes you feel dirty inside for watching it. I actually own two of the manga books, but I don't read them anymore.

[KnockBlock]

Kaleido Star comes close too.


Kaleido Star kicks ass. It is one of those animes that people thought they wouldn't like but then turn out to like after going through with it. I will say this. It is underrated to people who don't know about it or have seen few bits of.


The lead character in Kaleido Star is my favorite female character in all anime. Sora Naegino is very likeable. She is humble and so much can be admired about her. Very encouraged or determined. Won't break or fold. Cares about the well being of others. Sora has a great personality. It's hard not to like her. She's cute and is a such nice person. I love her.


Then there are other things I like about this series. The animation is really good. It is one of the best I have ever seen in anime. I also love the songs. All the op and ed theme songs are cool. Although it does have ideas that other animes also use, kaleido express them well and does make you feel for what goes on with the characters and the story of it.


Kaleido Star is real nice. At first I thought it was just a girl show. But for a girl show Kaleido Star is a cool one. After watching it all the way I loved it. Its an awesome series. I strongly recommend this anime to anyone who just wants something worth the time.

[KnockBlock]

Eva is a highly overrated peice of garbage without a single character that's not in need of deep therapy and an ending where the creator basically gave the bird to his entire audiance.

Heck, Rei was created as a joke. She was meant to be a pardoy of that silent emmotionally empy anime cliche and nobody even caught on to it.

Rei seems to be an influential character. There are many other characters that have the personality like her in other animes. As others have pointed out.


Co-sign about what you said NGE and it being overrated. Eva isn't as good as the hype it suggests. It may be intendid for the purpose it was created for but the series was incredibly boring most of the time in how it presented itself. At the end of the day entertainment comes first. I just like to see something I think I will enjoy. Eva has things about it that takes that away and are not enjoyable. I thought Eva was overrated years ago and it still is to me now.

[Dark Raven]

I find a lot of recent anime is no where near as good as the classics. Sailor Moon and Tekkaman Blade are what I consider the measuring sticks.

I've read some of Hikaru no Go and I was shocked to find that I liked it a lot.

As for bad anime....there was this little turd called Izcelion......

[Nik Hasta]

I've read some of Hikaru no Go and I was shocked to find that I liked it a lot.

Hikaru no Go is awesome! Sure it's not Berserk or One Piece but for a plot based entirely on the playing of Go it's insanely good.

I really need to get up to date again.

[Mr. Primetime]

I'm too lazy at the moment to read through 5 pages of this thread, so if this one's already been mentioned, then I'm going to say it deserves mentioning twice.

Naruto.

*Runs for cover*

[bushboy]

I'm too lazy at the moment to read through 5 pages of this thread, so if this one's already been mentioned, then I'm going to say it deserves mentioning twice.

Naruto.

*Runs for cover*

Beat me to it.

*ducks*

Also, Gundam SEED. Loved every Gundam released stateside before this.

[KnockBlock]

The thing I have with Naruto is that it tries too hard to be everything and tries too hard at them.

[Kusanagi]

I think Naruto is an example of good ideas, with terrible execution. In my opinion it has a ton of wasted potential.

[Alan2099]

There are many other characters that have the personality like her in other animes.
Saying somebody has a personality like Rei is a lot like saying somebody has the ability to shoot fire out of their hands like Spider-man.

[Guy1]

Hikaru No Go was great. Period.

Agreed. I kind of skimmed it at first, but I began slowly liking it, which surprised me, so I read on.

[StreetFighterRyu]

Reign. Thank god it got canceled.

[Sonikku Unleashed]

Naruto Shippuden.

I hate Naruto now, once a hyperactive and upbeat and encouraging underdog tone, is now a crybaby, emo, spoiled brat moron with a Sasuke fetish. His character now undermines everything he stood for in part 1.

Sakura is now a big ass hyporcritical bitch, very shallow and uninteresting without inner sakura. She's a trophy for Naruto(what happened with Sasuke?).

Sasuke is kinda better, at least he's winning fights. But he's killing the mood and becoming boring as hell.

Lee, Hinata, Gaara, just where are you?

[Sharpandpointies]

I've read interviews with the guy. He was suprised taht Rei was as popular as she turned out to be since she was created as an exageration of everything that was wrong with that type of character.

It's a case of people completley missing the subtext in favor of the plain text.

Possibly due to the creator having his strong opinions on the matter, figuring to 'prove' them to everyone else, and being surprised when people held to different opinions than himself.

Subtext is nice, but if it's subtext dependant on a subjective viewpoint not shared by others, it's going to pretty much be invisible to everyone but the writer.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Re: Evangelion, I didn't really have a problem with the characters as much as I did with the settings. The characters seemed to behave and react much as I would imagine that people in their situations would (Rei 2 being the replacement of a much more human-like [albeit very nasty] child, being attached to only one person and piloting in order to try and feel some sort of connection with other people, then her growing connection with Shinji leading to her dying in order to protect her was very well done, IMO; Also, each Rei seemed to be a bit less human than the previous one, with Rei 3 not having any apparent attachment to Gendo and being an Angel in everything but name...).

It's just that Nerv seemed to be run in such a way as to not only prevent any significant catharsis from being met, but also to deliberately eff up the minds of the hard luck cases that were working for them. I mean, crap - forget about sticking 2 teenage kids with parent issues with a drunk commanding officer with parent issues, but they just plain left Rei living in a slum by herself, for no apparent reason...

And for some reason, Gendo got both Akagis, mother and daughter, to fall for him, despite having the personality of corpse whose bowels had just loosened. That always bugged me as well.

It is moderately overrated, and suffers from the 666 Satan syndrome of having a lot of awesome and interesting Biblical imagery and allusions and then doing almost jack-crap with them, when they don't just plain piss on 'em (though the last chapter of 666 Satan does this much worse than NGE, IMO).


I'd vote that Virus Buster Serge might be one of the worst ideas that ever happened in anime, but to this day I still have no idea what the hell that anime was about. 50% from the gibberish plot and 50% from my boredom reaching catatonic levels about 8 minutes into most episodes.

[Nik Hasta]

It is moderately overrated, and suffers from the 666 Satan syndrome of having a lot of awesome and interesting Biblical imagery and allusions and then doing almost jack-crap with them, when they don't just plain piss on 'em (though the last chapter of 666 Satan does this much worse than NGE, IMO).

The last chapter of 666 Satan was both incredibly awesome and an incredible waste of potential.

I'll use spoiler tags in case anyone is still reading the series.

It was cool to see Jio defeat Satan and conquer the world and junk. And I liked how Satan was actually going to destroy everything by making everyone mistrust and hate and kill each other.

But the whole; "It was scientific experiment gone awry," thing was total bollocks.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Agreed, though

Miko seemed to lose waaay too easily, and I wish we got to see the Recipes in the future as well as Ball and the cyclops girl. Also, it really sucked how the science experiment gone awry clashed so much with the intimations that Ruby's dad was making about Satan having cosmic significance, what with their first and current worlds both having a tilt that created some sort of special climate band at 66.6 degrees, or some such.

[Alan2099]

It is moderately overrated, and suffers from the 666 Satan syndrome of having a lot of awesome and interesting Biblical imagery and allusions and then doing almost jack-crap with them, when they don't just plain piss on 'em (though the last chapter of 666 Satan does this much worse than NGE, IMO).
I'm not familiar with 666 Satan. Care to go into details on that one?

[The Drunkard Kid]

I'm not familiar with 666 Satan. Care to go into details on that one?
Made by the twin brother of the guy that does Naruto (and their art styles are extremely similar). The main character is possessed by Lucifer, called Satan by mortals (think Kyuubi's bigger, infinitely more evil older brother), and throughout the series they are facing multiple demons and angels of the Kaballah Sephiroth and Reverse Kaballah Sephiroth, with hints that the two Kaballahs combined would allow one to control/destroy all of creation, and that Satan was the key part of it and had some sort of influence on all of reality.

It's really a very cool shonen series, IMO, and Satan is extremely and deliberately nasty, in an awesome kind of way.

MEGA-ULTRA-UBER-SPOILERS

In the very last chapter, it turns that Lucifer was actually a scientist on the planet Eden and absorbed 666 different beasts in order to properly focus the powers of the Two Kaballah Sephiroths (...I think), which was created by the scientists Adam and Eve.

Yeah.

[Siriel]

Made by the twin brother of the guy that does Naruto (and their art styles are extremely similar). The main character is possessed by Lucifer, called Satan by mortals (think Kyuubi's bigger, infinitely more evil older brother), and throughout the series they are facing multiple demons and angels of the Kaballah Sephiroth and Reverse Kaballah Sephiroth, with hints that the two Kaballahs combined would allow one to control/destroy all of creation, and that Satan was the key part of it and had some sort of influence on all of reality.

It's really a very cool shonen series, IMO, and Satan is extremely and deliberately nasty, in an awesome kind of way.

MEGA-ULTRA-UBER-SPOILERS

In the very last chapter, it turns that Lucifer was actually a scientist on the planet Eden and absorbed 666 different beasts in order to properly focus the powers of the Two Kaballah Sephiroths (...I think), which was created by the scientists Adam and Eve.

Yeah.

I like to assume that the spoiled part exist only in my nightmares and that the series actually ended on a cliffhanger because of Executive Meddling.

Please don't destroy my illusions.