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agirlyman
04-24-2008, 05:56 AM
It would be messed up, but it definitely could happen given the paranoia that anybody could be a skrull is running rampant. Would they come clean, or pretend it never happen? Later it could come back to haunt them, or ruin them, a hero could easily fall. I'm sure they would be exonerated given the hysteria, but could their conscious deal with it?

Jeff-X
04-24-2008, 07:18 AM
I think I'd like to see something like this happen actually. Except maybe a Skrull impersonator kills the real deal then takes his place, continue living the lie because of the memory implants the Skrulls gave him to think he was real and he doesn't know what else to do.

fudgekp
04-24-2008, 07:20 AM
Thinking about it now, I'd be really surprised if something along these lines DIDN'T happen.

I mean, it's an ideal event - especially what with registration, peoples distrust of the supers, and impersonators running around all over the place.

Nightstar1441
04-24-2008, 09:19 AM
It will happen - the thing that worries me about this 'crossover' is that it gives Marvel a golden opportunity to retcon almost everything they've done the last 20 years. And such a cheap ploy is such a ripoff to any longtime fan

Jeff-X
04-24-2008, 10:52 AM
It will happen - the thing that worries me about this 'crossover' is that it gives Marvel a golden opportunity to retcon almost everything they've done the last 20 years. And such a cheap ploy is such a ripoff to any longtime fan

I think I'd prefer a Skrulls Invasion retcon to a Mephisto retcon.

Kage Kisaragi
04-24-2008, 10:55 AM
We find out Mephisto is a skrull, now that would indeed be surprising.

gorthon616
04-24-2008, 11:01 AM
It would be messed up, but it definitely could happen given the paranoia that anybody could be a skrull is running rampant. Would they come clean, or pretend it never happen? Later it could come back to haunt them, or ruin them, a hero could easily fall. I'm sure they would be exonerated given the hysteria, but could their conscious deal with it?

After the Electra fiasco, Skrulls have developed technology that makes them appear to be human even after post death. It's really just a matter of locking out the hormones that trigger the shape-shifting genes so that they require something to change and also a trigger revert, removing from the Skrull any reversion shifts after death.

I just made that up.

spidarwin
04-24-2008, 11:23 AM
It would be messed up, but it definitely could happen given the paranoia that anybody could be a skrull is running rampant. Would they come clean, or pretend it never happen? Later it could come back to haunt them, or ruin them, a hero could easily fall. I'm sure they would be exonerated given the hysteria, but could their conscious deal with it?

Well, now, regardless of whether they thought it was a Skrull, they wouldn't exactly be a "Hero," would they?

The definition of "hero" has been blurred a lot in the past couple of decades. I think that willful application of lethal force on a casual basis exempts someone from being considered one. Frank Castle isn't a hero per se, nor is Wolverine, by this definition, though Wolverine has been trending against this for quite a while.

Monty_Cristo
04-24-2008, 11:27 AM
i pray that Eric O'Grady does this. i think he should accidentally kill Grasshopper.

Porcelain
04-24-2008, 01:09 PM
Thinking about it now, I'd be really surprised if something along these lines DIDN'T happen.

I mean, it's an ideal event - especially what with registration, peoples distrust of the supers, and impersonators running around all over the place.
Ditto, I kinda hope it happens to a major leaguer. So much story potential, the more interesting question however is...WHO?

Will.S
04-24-2008, 01:22 PM
It will happen - the thing that worries me about this 'crossover' is that it gives Marvel a golden opportunity to retcon almost everything they've done the last 20 years. And such a cheap ploy is such a ripoff to any longtime fan
While the possibility is certainly there, that hasn't really happened yet.

YET.

wonderland
04-24-2008, 01:26 PM
I'm sure the Thunderbolts would just shrug it off and continue on their merry way :biggrin:

SeritoNiN
04-24-2008, 01:28 PM
I'd love to see the paranoia go so far that they kill a non-skrull thinking the person was a skrull. I don't think Marvel has the gonads to go there though.

Also, the more previews I read, the less they seem to be selling the paranoia part of the story and the more they're pushing the invasion. Seems the paranoia was over-hyped and now constantly being downplayed.

mikekerr3
04-24-2008, 01:35 PM
I'm sure the Thunderbolts would just shrug it off and continue on their merry way :biggrin:

Hurting heros is thier reason for being, killing one with an excuse would be fine for them, most would probably celebrate.

StoneGold
04-24-2008, 01:37 PM
For the answer, click here:

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=monsters+maple+street&search_type=

When it comes to alien subterfuge, there's two prototypes. Body Snatchers when you're right, Monsters are Due on Maple Street when you're wrong. And that's not a knock on Secret Invasion. This is like Shakespeare, prototypical stuff, the icons, the legends.

mikekerr3
04-24-2008, 01:42 PM
For the answer, click here:

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=monsters+maple+street&search_type=

When it comes to alien subterfuge, there's two prototypes. Body Snatchers when you're right, Monsters are Due on Maple Street when you're wrong. And that's not a knock on Secret Invasion. This is like Shakespeare, prototypical stuff, the icons, the legends.

II had forgotten Monsters are due on maple street somehow.:redface: , I wonder if the Skrull have seen it? The distrust and hate that the CW left in it's wake makes that a very relevant idea for them to exploit.

Thanks for the reminder, Now I have to find and watch that episode again.

StoneGold
04-24-2008, 01:50 PM
II had forgotten Monsters are due on maple street somehow.:redface: , I wonder if the Skrull have seen it? The distrust and hate that the CW left in it's wake makes that a very relevant idea for them to exploit.

Thanks for the reminder, Now I have to find and watch that episode again.

It's split up, but you should find all the links on the youtube link provided.


In any case, given the number of classic SF references Bendis has already made, I'm pretty sure he at least has seen it semi-recently. And I can almost guarantee you, there's going to be a tie-in issue somewhere where it turns out that no one was a Skrull, and it was just paranoid humans fighting amongst themselves.

mikekerr3
04-24-2008, 01:55 PM
It's split up, but you should find all the links on the youtube link provided.


In any case, given the number of classic SF references Bendis has already made, I'm pretty sure he at least has seen it semi-recently. And I can almost guarantee you, there's going to be a tie-in issue somewhere where it turns out that no one was a Skrull, and it was just paranoid humans fighting amongst themselves.

In the current Mu paranoia and a grip on reality are very close. "Who can you trust" came way before the SI came over the horizon.

StoneGold
04-24-2008, 03:47 PM
In the current Mu paranoia and a grip on reality are very close. "Who can you trust" came way before the SI came over the horizon.

No doubt, at least since CW, although elements of it have crept in since HoM and Secret War. But SI has pushed it full-tilt boogie. And with the alien invader element, it very specifically raised Monster parallels. Same way that Pym looked a pretty close double for Kevin McCarthy in Body Snatchers when he zapped Reed. They know what they are homaging/ripping off. And it ain't Battlestar.

Monty_Cristo
04-24-2008, 03:59 PM
No doubt, at least since CW, although elements of it have crept in since HoM and Secret War. But SI has pushed it full-tilt boogie. And with the alien invader element, it very specifically raised Monster parallels. Same way that Pym looked a pretty close double for Kevin McCarthy in Body Snatchers when he zapped Reed. They know what they are homaging/ripping off. And it ain't Battlestar.

this guy? you must be thinking of Innerspace.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2696124416/nm0002994

i know that Yu can sort of make people ugly but...yikes. i think Pym kind of looked like Michael C Hall.

Alan2099
04-24-2008, 04:01 PM
What if a Hero kills somebody he/she thought was a skrull?
Tony will give them a pat on the back, tell them not to do it again, and help them hide the body :tongue:

StoneGold
04-24-2008, 04:08 PM
this guy?
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2696124416/nm0002994

i know that Yu can sort of make people ugly but...yikes. i think Pym kind of looked like Michael C Hall.

More like this, for those of us who don't understand the passage of time.

http://exclamationmark.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers.jpg

Monty_Cristo
04-24-2008, 04:12 PM
More like this, for those of us who don't understand the passage of time.

http://exclamationmark.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers.jpg

yeah, i was kidding; for those who don't understand humor. bad picture but i see what you're saying.

hawkeye comeback
04-26-2008, 09:30 AM
cage kills IM in after thinking im is skrull then iron fist and Jessica jones have to calm him down

Camron Amaya
04-26-2008, 12:00 PM
Hopefully that happens. And Sentry is the one killed.

:biggrin:

mikekerr3
04-26-2008, 01:06 PM
Tony will give them a pat on the back, tell them not to do it again, and help them hide the body :tongue:

IF the Hero isn't registered they will have to go to trial and will be shot before trail, thats the apparent procedure anyway.

StoneGold
04-26-2008, 01:36 PM
yeah, i was kidding; for those who don't understand humor. bad picture but i see what you're saying.

When it comes to you and anything having to do with Bendis, I side with you just being pissy.