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Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 04:03 PM
so, which is it?

Machine Man having a Monica Rambeau-bot

Swordsman carrying around his sister's skin

Ant-Man spying on showering women

Deadpool keeping a blind woman prisoner

Expletive Deleted
04-23-2008, 04:12 PM
Gonna have to go with the eurotrash on this one. It's the incest vibe that really puts him over the top.

Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 04:23 PM
Gonna have to go with the eurotrash on this one. It's the incest vibe that really puts him over the top.

heh. but his is the only action done out of love. he just wants his sister back. Aaron Stack, on the other hand, just wants to hear a female robot cry. :biggrin:

The Confessor
04-23-2008, 04:58 PM
Hey, come on now... spying on showering women isn't creepy!

It's a perfectly natural pursuit for any red blooded male.












Isn't it? :confused:

Emperor Time
04-23-2008, 05:11 PM
It hard to say since there all creepy.

Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 05:59 PM
It hard to say since there all creepy.

yes, it's fun to see people justify one over the other. it's all about creative posting.

Hey, come on now... spying on showering women isn't creepy!

It's a perfectly natural pursuit for any red blooded male.

don't ask me. i'm warped. of course, it's one thing to sneak a peak at a showering woman. he's something else to break into her apartment to do it.

Comet Man
04-23-2008, 06:02 PM
Yeah, they're all equally creepy except for Machine Man. It's just robots.

Come To Deathstrike
04-23-2008, 06:08 PM
I'd have a monica rambeau-bot.
She'd cook me my meals!
DISCALIMER: This isn't sexist or racist. It was a MICROWAVE joke.

Dermie
04-23-2008, 06:09 PM
I've gotta go with Machine Man having the LMD of Monica. That's really sick, and I hope Monica finds out about it and comes to kick his ass.

Andreas having his sister's skin is certainly icky...but at least that one has a practical purpose--he needs to be able to touch her skin to use his powers. The fact that Purple Man made him do it also gets him off the hook a bit.

Ant-Man spying on showering women is pervy, sure...but, imo, not quite in the same league as creating a life-like model of someone to be your plaything.

CyberHubbs
04-23-2008, 06:24 PM
I've gotta go with Machine Man having the LMD of Monica. That's really sick, and I hope Monica finds out about it and comes to kick his ass.

Andreas having his sister's skin is certainly icky...but at least that one has a practical purpose--he needs to be able to touch her skin to use his powers. The fact that Purple Man made him do it also gets him off the hook a bit.

Ant-Man spying on showering women is pervy, sure...but, imo, not quite in the same league as creating a life-like model of someone to be your plaything.

You are a robo-racist! That LMD is an integral part of Aaron's cultural beliefs. Who are YOU to deny him a crybot? He needs those tears to keep his internal machinery working properly.

Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 06:24 PM
I'd have a monica rambeau-bot.
She'd cook me my meals!
DISCALIMER: This isn't sexist or racist. It was a MICROWAVE joke.

lol! it is kind of sexist, though.

Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 06:25 PM
You are a robo-racist! That LMD is an integral part of Aaron's cultural beliefs. Who are YOU to deny him a crybot? He needs those tears to keep his internal machinery working properly.

i keep asking to see the robot bible but one hasn't been provided. personally, i think he's making it up to justify his sexism/racism/pervertedness.

CyberHubbs
04-23-2008, 06:33 PM
i keep asking to see the robot bible but one hasn't been provided. personally, i think he's making it up to justify his sexism/racism/pervertedness.

Dirty lies!

Fine. I've managed to find an excerpt from the Robot Bible.



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Clearly, Aaron is justified.

Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 06:35 PM
Dirty lies!

Fine. I've managed to find an excerpt from the Robot Bible.



Clearly, Aaron is justified.

all that says is that robots wants to violate humans in the worst possible ways and that Sunday is a day of rest.

CyberHubbs
04-23-2008, 06:48 PM
all that says is that robots wants to violate humans in the worst possible ways and that Sunday is a day of rest.

Who are we to argue against wisdom from On High?

HeckBoy
04-23-2008, 06:58 PM
Whoa what? Machineman has a what?! What book/issue is this from?

drwho
04-23-2008, 07:00 PM
Whoa what? Machineman has a what?! What book/issue is this from?

Machine Man is a sadistic potential rapist with an LMd of Monica Rambeau being used as his slave sex bot to satisfy his obsession.

Shyft
04-23-2008, 07:02 PM
Ant-Man and Machine Man's are just elaborate versions of porn, which is in itself a pretty creepy thing anyway. I dont really know about DP. Why was he holding a blind woman hostage? what was he doing to her?

Overall, i think Swordsman has to win. Just tanning someones skin who you knew is creepy enough, but when its his sister who he has a crush on...ew.

CyberHubbs
04-23-2008, 07:05 PM
Whoa what? Machineman has a what?! What book/issue is this from?

He has an LMD of Photon that he keeps stashed in his quarters. Basically, she just cries all the time and whines how she used to be an Avenger. Aaron takes pleasure in this.

He then commands her to tell him how sexy his robot body is. Just recently in the newest issue of Ms. Marvel.

Comet Man
04-23-2008, 07:13 PM
Machine Man is a sadistic potential rapist with an LMd of Monica Rambeau being used as his slave sex bot to satisfy his obsession.

He has an LMD of Photon that he keeps stashed in his quarters. Basically, she just cries all the time and whines how she used to be an Avenger. Aaron takes pleasure in this.

He then commands her to tell him how sexy his robot body is. Just recently in the newest issue of Ms. Marvel.

Big deal, it's not much different than having a blow up doll. The thing isn't alive, so I wouldn't call it creepy. Weird, but not creepy.

drwho
04-23-2008, 07:15 PM
Big deal, it's not much different than having a blow up doll. The thing isn't alive, so I wouldn't call it creepy. Weird, but not creepy.

did you read the actual issue?

HeckBoy
04-23-2008, 07:15 PM
Machine Man is a sadistic potential rapist with an LMd of Monica Rambeau being used as his slave sex bot to satisfy his obsession.

He has an LMD of Photon that he keeps stashed in his quarters. Basically, she just cries all the time and whines how she used to be an Avenger. Aaron takes pleasure in this.

He then commands her to tell him how sexy his robot body is. Just recently in the newest issue of Ms. Marvel.Okay, that is seriously disturbing, esp. since it's not in a purposely funny book like NextWAVE (speaking of which, when did Machine Man get so creepy/sadistic? I thought he used to be "normal" or at least dull but that characterization sounds psychotic or very NextWAVE-y, which I thought was out-of-continuity). Of course, the von Strucker incest-ness is just as bad on a different level, so it's a wash for me.

CyberHubbs
04-23-2008, 07:16 PM
Big deal, it's not much different than having a blow up doll. The thing isn't alive, so I wouldn't call it creepy. Weird, but not creepy.

While it is cute (in a weird sort of way), I hope it doesn't become a running gag. Aaron deserves more characterization than that.

drwho
04-23-2008, 07:17 PM
For some reason machine man was overly dark in the latest ms. marvel issue to the point where I think it was done in bad taste and just stopped being funny.

CyberHubbs
04-23-2008, 07:20 PM
Okay, that is seriously disturbing, esp. since it's not in a purposely funny book like NextWAVE (speaking of which, when did Machine Man get so creepy/sadistic? I thought he used to be "normal" or at least dull but that characterization sounds psychotic or very NextWAVE-y, which I thought was out-of-continuity). Of course, the von Strucker incest-ness is just as bad on a different level, so it's a wash for me.

In-continuity depends on the person you ask. Black Panther and Storm received a wedding gift from Dirk Anger, so...

HeckBoy
04-23-2008, 07:23 PM
In-continuity depends on the person you ask. Black Panther and Storm received a wedding gift from Dirk Anger, so...Interesting. With all these quirks and what not, I think I'll take the X-Men First Class continuity approach from now (basically, if it's picked up by another writer "in continuity," then it is canon, etc.).

Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 07:28 PM
Ant-Man and Machine Man's are just elaborate versions of porn, which is in itself a pretty creepy thing anyway. I dont really know about DP. Why was he holding a blind woman hostage? what was he doing to her?


mostly insulting her. he would also do stuff like tamper with her food. her name's "Blind Al." :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Al

CyberHubbs
04-23-2008, 07:29 PM
Interesting. With all these quirks and what not, I think I'll take the X-Men First Class continuity approach from now (basically, if it's picked up by another writer "in continuity," then it is canon, etc.).

Way I figured it, Nextwave wasn't meant to be in-continuity. But the title's popularity led to a renewed interest in some of the characters.

I'd like to see Aaron in his own title, even if it is a mini. I'd have him team with Human Robot in a spy story. M-11 can be the strong, silent one.

Alan2099
04-23-2008, 07:29 PM
I dont really know about DP. Why was he holding a blind woman hostage? what was he doing to her?
Most of what we know about her is still a mystery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Al

Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 07:31 PM
Way I figured it, Nextwave wasn't meant to be in-continuity. But the title's popularity led to a renewed interest in some of the characters.

I'd like to see Aaron in his own title, even if it is a mini. I'd have him team with Human Robot in a spy story. M-11 can be the strong, silent one.

i see Nextwave as a somewhat fantastic re-telling of what really occurred. i believe that Monica, Aaron, the Captain, etc did actually team up. i just think it wasn't as out of control as what went on in the Nextwave title.

CyberHubbs
04-23-2008, 07:32 PM
i see Nextwave as a somewhat fantastic re-telling of what really occurred. i believe that Monica, Aaron, the Captain, etc did actually team up. i just think it wasn't as out of control as what went on in the Nextwave title.

Good point. I can see that.

reddog
04-23-2008, 07:33 PM
Ironman being called a hero really creeps me out.

CyberHubbs
04-23-2008, 07:35 PM
Uh oh. Here we go with the Iron Man hate.

Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 07:36 PM
Ironman being called a hero really creeps me out.

you bringing marvel universe politics into a humor thread creeps me out.

Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 07:37 PM
Uh oh. Here we go with the Iron Man hate.

speaking of Iron Man hate, i would kill to see Aaron, the Captain, and Eric O'Grady go bar-hopping. just imagine the trouble they could get into.

CyberHubbs
04-23-2008, 07:40 PM
speaking of Iron Man hate, i would kill to see Aaron, the Captain, and Eric O'Grady go bar-hopping. just imagine the trouble they could get into.

I can see Cap and Eric striking out with all the women, and then Aaron walks by with several hot girls on his arms and a big grin on his face.

"A girl's best friend, boys."

Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 07:41 PM
I can see Cap and Eric striking out with all the women, and then Aaron walks by with several hot girls on his arms and a big grin on his face.

"A girl's best friend, boys."

he doesn't even like fleshy ones.

reddog
04-23-2008, 07:41 PM
you bringing marvel universe politics into a humor thread creeps me out.

Ironman the hero is funny ,So is the fact that like 1 out of ten people actually would admit they liked him back in the day now with the movie everyones now going ape#$%^ about how great they think he is.

Diablito
04-23-2008, 07:43 PM
Hmm. Swordsman is definitely the creepiest, by a mile. He has a crush on his sister. Who happens to be dead. Who he stole skin cells from. And then tanned it for the hilt of his sword. Pretty friggin creepy.

CyberHubbs
04-23-2008, 07:44 PM
he doesn't even like fleshy ones.

He likes the attention, though.

Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 08:19 PM
Ironman the hero is funny ,So is the fact that like 1 out of ten people actually would admit they liked him back in the day now with the movie everyones now going ape#$%^ about how great they think he is.

i prefered David Michelinie-era Iron Man. i don't even know that i'll see the movie.

Asian_Invasion
04-23-2008, 08:49 PM
Swordsman carrying around the skin of his dead sister, even though it does make his mutant power work.

Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 09:06 PM
Swordsman carrying around the skin of his dead sister, even though it does make his mutant power work.

it's weird that he doesn't use the power very often. might have saved him from getting the living sht kicked out of him by Steel Spider.

Alan2099
04-23-2008, 09:08 PM
i see Nextwave as a somewhat fantastic re-telling of what really occurred. i believe that Monica, Aaron, the Captain, etc did actually team up. i just think it wasn't as out of control as what went on in the Nextwave title.

I seem to recal somewhere reading that the people in Nextwave have had their memories and personalities slightly altered by some unknown agents.

BeastieRunner
04-23-2008, 09:38 PM
Hey, come on now... spying on showering women isn't creepy!

It's a perfectly natural pursuit for any red blooded male.

Isn't it? :confused:

Until a certain age. Then it's creepy.

Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 09:41 PM
I seem to recal somewhere reading that the people in Nextwave have had their memories and personalities slightly altered by some unknown agents.

maybe that means that they were all replaced by skrulls.

Until a certain age. Then it's creepy.

what age, though? Eric's not very bright. i'd say that he's about as mentally developed as your average non-comic book reading junior high school student.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/bobafett006/antman1.jpg

Pyro
04-23-2008, 09:50 PM
mostly insulting her. he would also do stuff like tamper with her food. her name's "Blind Al." :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_AlLOL I had never heard of her before, but I'm really interested now! I'll have to check out some old Deadpool issues.

As for my vote... I think the Swordsman deelio is the worst, but that's only going on what I've heard since I never read it. Aaron having a Monica-bot is definitely the most recent creepy thing I've read. I'm just going to have to think about it a bit more.

You know what else was creepy? That Marcus/Ms.Marvel thing. And Puppet Master pimping out women in that Ms. Marvel arc. And she was one of the girls Ant-Man spied on. Why is Ms. Marvel the center of so much creepiness?

Monty_Cristo
04-23-2008, 09:53 PM
LOL I had never heard of her before, but I'm really interested now! I'll have to check out some old Deadpool issues.

As for my vote... I think the Swordsman deelio is the worst, but that's only going on what I've heard since I never read it. Aaron having a Monica-bot is definitely the most recent creepy thing I've read. I'm just going to have to think about it a bit more.

You know what else was creepy? That Marcus/Ms.Marvel thing. And Puppet Master pimping out women in that Ms. Marvel arc. And she was one of the girls Ant-Man spied on. Why is Ms. Marvel the center of so much creepiness?

yeah, she's a creep Magnet. throw Rogue mind raping her in there.

Psyco panda
04-23-2008, 10:24 PM
I'm glad to see that many people find incestual necrophilia as disturbing as i do.

BeastieRunner
04-23-2008, 11:49 PM
what age, though? Eric's not very bright. i'd say that he's about as mentally developed as your average non-comic book reading junior high school student.


One year after you complete college. Then you got to grow up. That is the age.

Monty_Cristo
04-24-2008, 11:39 AM
One year after you complete college. Then you got to grow up. That is the age.

what if you never went to college?

CyberHubbs
04-24-2008, 11:49 AM
what if you never went to college?

You have to watch all of the Revenge of the Nerds flicks, Teen Wolf 2, PCU and some other college movies as a substitute. It's like community college, but with more popcorn.

Mort
04-24-2008, 11:54 AM
Machine Man - I don't care that he's a robot.

Ant-man spying is just pervy not creepy, and Deadpool let Blind Al try and escape so thats not AS creepy.

Porcelain
04-24-2008, 01:37 PM
Why the hell is someone carrying around their dead sister's skin?

Expletive Deleted
04-24-2008, 02:15 PM
Why the hell is someone carrying around their dead sister's skin?He needs to be in physical contact with her in order for his powers to work and carrying her entire dead body around would be unwieldy.

Plus, the two of them were close. Unwholesomely so.

Monty_Cristo
04-24-2008, 02:21 PM
He needs to be in physical contact with her in order for his powers to work and carrying her entire dead body around would be unwieldy.

Plus, the two of them were close. Unwholesomely so.

well, there's also the little matter of him needing her dna so someone can clone her; Arnim Zola, in this instance. :smile:

CyberCoyote
04-24-2008, 02:36 PM
I would have said Swordsman until yesterday's Ms Marvel. That is just so freakin' twisted sick. In fact Machine Man needs to be scrapped, I didn't read Next Wave, don't know how he turned into such a freak job, but he needs to be destroyed. Just F-ed up beyond repair that thing is.

Monty_Cristo
04-24-2008, 03:37 PM
I would have said Swordsman until yesterday's Ms Marvel. That is just so freakin' twisted sick. In fact Machine Man needs to be scrapped, I didn't read Next Wave, don't know how he turned into such a freak job, but he needs to be destroyed. Just F-ed up beyond repair that thing is.

maybe he's been infected w/ a computer virus.

CyberHubbs
04-24-2008, 03:40 PM
I would have said Swordsman until yesterday's Ms Marvel. That is just so freakin' twisted sick. In fact Machine Man needs to be scrapped, I didn't read Next Wave, don't know how he turned into such a freak job, but he needs to be destroyed. Just F-ed up beyond repair that thing is.

You just don't understand robot love.

Monty_Cristo
04-24-2008, 03:54 PM
Why the hell is someone carrying around their dead sister's skin?

because carrying around his live sister's skin would just be mean?

You just don't understand robot love.

having never owned a vibrator, you're probably right.

Capt USA
04-24-2008, 04:22 PM
I'm on the list about spying on women in the showers is pervy not creepy.

I have to see that machine man issue, on paper it doesn't sound so bad but the people who have seen it have a extreme negative reaction that it appears it's something that needs to be read.

I voted for Swordsman of course, and I will state that the way Marvel treats brother sister teams is creepy on the whole.(most notably the Struckers, Maximoffs, and Beaubier family)

Jack
04-24-2008, 04:28 PM
i see Nextwave as a somewhat fantastic re-telling of what really occurred. i believe that Monica, Aaron, the Captain, etc did actually team up. i just think it wasn't as out of control as what went on in the Nextwave title.
Make it a retelling from Aaron, and it makes everything funny in a slightly different way. If he has a bot programmed to go on about when Monica led the Avengers, then he'd be sure to throw that in all the time when telling the story, for example.

Monty_Cristo
04-24-2008, 04:33 PM
I'm on the list about spying on women in the showers is pervy not creepy.

I have to see that machine man issue, on paper it doesn't sound so bad but the people who have seen it have a extreme negative reaction that it appears it's something that needs to be read.

I voted for Swordsman of course, and I will state that the way Marvel treats brother sister teams is creepy on the whole.(most notably the Struckers, Maximoffs, and Beaubier family)

i can almost understand, though. Wanda, Aurora, and Andrea were kind of hot. all 3 were in good shape, too. now imagine having the Invisible Woman as your sister? remember when she was leading the team and her costume was heavy on cleavage? that's just not right!

Capt USA
04-24-2008, 05:17 PM
i can almost understand, though. Wanda, Aurora, and Andrea were kind of hot. all 3 were in good shape, too. now imagine having the Invisible Woman as your sister? remember when she was leading the team and her costume was heavy on cleavage? that's just not right!

I forgot about the Storms, of course all comic women are hot, I think that the ugliest of the major female characters would make any supermodel ugly in comparison.

BeastieRunner
04-24-2008, 06:51 PM
what if you never went to college?

You have to watch all of the Revenge of the Nerds flicks, Teen Wolf 2, PCU and some other college movies as a substitute. It's like community college, but with more popcorn.

^^^^^^^^^^
I approve this alternative.:smile:

CyberHubbs
04-24-2008, 10:13 PM
I'm on the list about spying on women in the showers is pervy not creepy.

I have to see that machine man issue, on paper it doesn't sound so bad but the people who have seen it have a extreme negative reaction that it appears it's something that needs to be read.

I voted for Swordsman of course, and I will state that the way Marvel treats brother sister teams is creepy on the whole.(most notably the Struckers, Maximoffs, and Beaubier family)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/61/Robomonica.PNG

Eumenides
04-25-2008, 05:55 AM
I find the Monica Rambeau-bot pretty disturbing, especially because I'm a fan of the character and I don't think she's had any luck with writers since Roger Stern.

What exactly is the motivation behind Machine Man's actions?

CyberHubbs
04-25-2008, 08:42 AM
I find the Monica Rambeau-bot pretty disturbing, especially because I'm a fan of the character and I don't think she's had any luck with writers since Roger Stern.

What exactly is the motivation behind Machine Man's actions?

The LMD is part of his employment package at SHIELD. I think he's just crazy.

I find it hilarious.

Alan2099
04-25-2008, 09:01 AM
What exactly is the motivation behind Machine Man's actions?
He's just a jerk.

IIX
04-25-2008, 11:33 AM
Swordsman takes the cake, nothing more creepier then wearing your own sister's skin.

Catlin
04-25-2008, 11:56 AM
I'm on the list about spying on women in the showers is pervy not creepy.

I agree. Its like a male right of passage, though heaven help the guy who every tries to do that to me :evilsmile:

I voted Swordsman...that was just....eeww.

GraemeT
04-25-2008, 12:28 PM
Keeping your sis's skin gotta beat em all! (I'm an only child and i still think its weird)

Personally dont see what the (suprisingly) big deal is over Machine Man so he's got a non-sentient (can always spot a trekkie, no-one else uses the word sentient:cool: ) robot of his former boss moaning about how she used to lead the avengers (sorry but "Waaaaa" is never used to represent serious anguish, imaging if luke had done that on cloud city "i am your father...." "Waaaaaa! Thats Impossible) and saying how great and sexy he is, hell if they made robots that said how sexy you are i'd buy one (just for that honestly) :rolleyes: ! We'd known he'd had it for a while now, i'm kinda surprised he isn't sleeping with it...tho there's always next issue...

Course i am biased, Nextwave Is Love!

IronMagnus
04-25-2008, 12:57 PM
Ant-Man wanting to look at a naked Ms. Marvel is perfectly understandable. :cool: