Incredible Hercules #116 *Spoilers*

[drwho]

This issue was absolutely amazing with a minor quibble. My problem is some of the dialog just doesnt sound like Hercules. I mean drain his hydra. Give me a break. Loved seeing the flashback with Ares and his other son and how Hercules killed him and how his half sister was involved. Are the Eternals aware of other heroes, or totally mind wiped. I thought it odd that they thought Hercules was Gilgamesh. Do the Eternals remember other heroes? Anyway Ikaris tries to persuade Hercules that he is Gilgamesh and the two fight. I did think it was funny that it shows Hercules using his brains in combat while pretending to be Gilgamesh for an instance to get the upper hand in battle. I also thought it was cool that they were tieing in Gilgamesh into some of Hercules own trials. It turns out in the end that Makarri mistranslated what the dreaming Celestial said to him. Anyway the rest of the issue is the reason they visited the dreaming celestial was to have a meeting with the other gods. And in clash of the titans head medusa pulling out style Athena yanks out a skrull's head on the final page. This series is amazing.

[Camron Amaya]

Yay @ the pantheon of Gods being back

[XPac]

Darn, I didn't see this one at the store.

Anyways, it's weird that they don't know Gilgamesh died in the Crossing. Though I suppose that's not info Tony would be too willing to share for personal reasons.

Ah well. It's good that the gods are showing up, though I wish Thor was involved in all of this. At least the Eternals are getting play.

[Emperor Time]

Haven't read it but it sounds great.

[mikekerr3]

Haven't read it but it sounds great.

Manybe now Ares big sister will give hinm a lesson in manners , he''s never been in her class. Never even close.

[Cthulhudrew]

Anyways, it's weird that they don't know Gilgamesh died in the Crossing.

Both Zuras and Ajax of the Eternals were dead before, but were resurrected in the Eternals mini (Druig as well, IIRC). For that matter, Ikaris himself was slain and resurrected in that mini as well.

As such, I can see why they might not believe that the Forgotten One was permanently dead.

[Trey]

Marvel's best book. Each issue has so many cool little things going on. Pak and Van Lente forever.


The art was good. And I bet it will only get better as Sandoval gets his legs under him on this title. I like how its realistc and comicy, sorta like Cheung without the CHeung faces.

Hey, Mark Paniccia, get Jrjr to do an arc. His covers are awesome as usual.

[Expletive Deleted]

Athena is a great addition to the supporting cast. I definitely hope she sticks around past this arc.

As for the Eternals . . . the "Forgotten One"/"forgotten ones" thing was a little contrived, but it led to a fine fight scene. And really, isn't that what matters most?

[crimson red]

great book! current story line rocks, and the art is just FANTASTIC!

[DeadXMan]

Lover the Map at the beginning

Beer, Beer, Beer.

and the veiws about San Fran residents seems spot on

[Tobias Drake]

Alright, while I did love Athena from the first page onward, and warmly welcome her addition to the cast...this episode didn't do it for me. Mostly because it was just an excuse to have Hercules fight the Eternals as pure, blatant filler until the Secret Invasion tie-ins start. The Eternals fight came completely out of nowhere and served no purpose within the plot other than to pad the story, because without it, it would have been three pages of them getting to San Francisco, then 18 pages of Athena apologizing to the camera for not coming up with something to keep us entertained while they fill space.

The misunderstanding personifies this filler: it is revealed that Hercules is NOT Hercules, but is in fact, an Eternal, except he's actually not and is, in fact, Hercules. Nothing new is developed. The character takes nothing away from this experience. The entire thing was pointless.

[MadMan22]

Yeah parts of the is he an Eternal or not stuff confused me at first too. It made more sense after i re read it a couple of times. Though, in the end, i think that the writers wanted the readers left just as unsure about Herc's past as he is. It was a cool note to show that Herc actually read Mythology stories just to try and refresh himself on the stuff he did. I'll be picking up the Eternals series, so that may shed some light on the real location of the Forgotten One. Basically they are just saying that certain things Olympians are credited for Eternals really did, and vice versa.

[MadMan22]

Also, i'm totally digging Sandoval's art. I find it cleaner than Pham's.

[StoneGold]

Actually, there is a deeper point to the Eternals thing. Herc's memory is in fact not what it should be. Granted, some of this is addressing minor continuity issues dating back to Avengers #300, where it was revealed that he filled in for Herc occasionally. Honestly, I think that was a continuity fix as well, having Gil as the Hercules that Immortus (or was it Kang?) zapped up in the first bunch of issues. Since he looked more like Gil.

But in any case, Herc is having memory issues. Why is this? Stay tuned.

[MadMan22]

But are we to believe that it was the Forgotten One that actually diverted the rivers into the stables?

[MadMan22]

Also, do you think that the new Eternals ongoing will clarify any of this further? I'm really interested in this whole concept.

[mikekerr3]

Alright, while I did love Athena from the first page onward, and warmly welcome her addition to the cast...this episode didn't do it for me. Mostly because it was just an excuse to have Hercules fight the Eternals as pure, blatant filler until the Secret Invasion tie-ins start. The Eternals fight came completely out of nowhere and served no purpose within the plot other than to pad the story, because without it, it would have been three pages of them getting to San Francisco, then 18 pages of Athena apologizing to the camera for not coming up with something to keep us entertained while they fill space.

The misunderstanding personifies this filler: it is revealed that Hercules is NOT Hercules, but is in fact, an Eternal, except he's actually not and is, in fact, Hercules. Nothing new is developed. The character takes nothing away from this experience. The entire thing was pointless.

Sometimes stuff:biggrin: happens for no particualr reason, With no particualar import. Murphys law works in the MU too.

[Cthulhudrew]

But are we to believe that it was the Forgotten One that actually diverted the rivers into the stables?

That's been continuity for quite some time, so I'm assuming that's what they're getting at here (though it's admittedly a bit fuzzy in the presentation).

[MadMan22]

So am i correct that Herc mainly believes this stuff cause he reads it enough times his mind has convinced himself that its true?

[MadMan22]

Also has it ever been explained why Gilgamesh would bother completing these labors?

[Tobias Drake]

Sometimes stuff:biggrin: happens for no particualr reason, With no particualar import. Murphys law works in the MU too.

Sometimes stuff does happen for no reason. But in a literary work, charging people money for something completely random that in no way donates to the larger story and is, ultimately, a complete waste of the characters' time, doesn't work. This is a nice standalone issue, certainly, but it serves no purpose. It's a oneshot completely independent of the title that, with a couple alterations, could have happened anywhere, at any point, in the character's story. The only actual substance to the entire issue is a couple pages at the beginning of Athena and Cho, and the last sequence with the gathering of the pantheons. It screams "blatant filler material" to me, and I'm allergic to filler.

[MadMan22]

Sometimes stuff does happen for no reason. But in a literary work, charging people money for something completely random that in no way donates to the larger story and is, ultimately, a complete waste of the characters' time, doesn't work. This is a nice standalone issue, certainly, but it serves no purpose. It's a oneshot completely independent of the title that, with a couple alterations, could have happened anywhere, at any point, in the character's story. The only actual substance to the entire issue is a couple pages at the beginning of Athena and Cho, and the last sequence with the gathering of the pantheons. It screams "blatant filler material" to me, and I'm allergic to filler.

I agree. I think that the Eternal and Herc books will do better without crossing over with each other. Once that happens, things get convoluted quickly.

[drwho]

I looked at the issue as being more of a Marvel Marketing ploy for the new series, but it was still entertaining. It really does kind of make you wonder though if JMS ended the finding the Asgard search earlier since the Eternals have almost the same plot going on.

[MadMan22]

Possibly. I plan on picking up the Eternals series anyway.

[b_sinning]

I liked Hercules admitting being punch drunk. It helps make his behavior sometimes more believable.

[crimson red]

But are we to believe that it was the Forgotten One that actually diverted the rivers into the stables?


Yes I believe that Gilgamesh was credited with actually accomplishing some of Herc's labors according to issues from long ago. This issue clarifies it I guess.

[MadMan22]

Herc said that if he was an Eternal. it would give him answers that made sense. What did he mean?

[crimson red]

Herc said that if he was an Eternal. it would give him answers that made sense. What did he mean?

He just means that since Eternals are "creatures of science," they have a set purpose and know all their history, whereas Herc being a complex demi-god character, life is just more complicated.

[MadMan22]

That makes sense. One more question though. Couldn't Athena clue Herc in on the stuff he did and didn't do? She showed already that she remembers more of his past than he does.

[drwho]

Does anyone know if the eternals remember all the other heroes they have met as well, or did they forget all that too? Cus the Eternal woman was also on the Heroes 4 Hire team Hercules was on for a little bit I believe.

[MadMan22]

That wasn't made clear. I'm hoping that the new series explains that and more.

[MadMan22]

Thena's comments to Athena about the Olympians history of incest, rape etc does lend credence to the idea that they still remember living near Mount Olympus. I also think that Thena and Athena probably have been confused for each other in history as well. Hence their similar names.

[Jack]

He just means that since Eternals are "creatures of science," they have a set purpose and know all their history, whereas Herc being a complex demi-god character, life is just more complicated.
Also, based on this issue, it seems like Herc has some issues over the conditions of his conception and so on. Nobody really needs to learn that your father isn't your father, because your mother was raped by someone pretending to be him. Compared to that, being created by Celestials would probably sound really good.

[MadMan22]

Does anybody know why Ikaris and Thena would think that Gilgamesh would be shoveling the stables in the first place?

[StoneGold]

Yes I believe that Gilgamesh was credited with actually accomplishing some of Herc's labors according to issues from long ago. This issue clarifies it I guess.

It doesn't really clarify it, it just brings up the issue again. It was a one-off line in... it may not have actually been Avengers #300, but if not that one exactly, a nearby issue. Gil makes a comment about how he's been confused for Hercules before, and about how he actually did some of the labors. The gag is that he's been confused for pretty much every major hero at some point. He's also been Samson.

But the original line was a one-off joke, never examined. This is pulling in that obscure bit of continuity and holding it up to the light, apparently to shed some light on Herc's actual origins. It probably helps if you already know the continuity. I have a feeling this was not one of the new-reader-friendliest stories ever written. There were a ton of outside elements brought in without really going into enough exposition, whether in the dialog or in caption boxes. So I know I got what they were trying to do, but I can see where others were lost.

[ANewHope]

I hate to say this, but I thought this issue was awful. It just goes to show, that I honestly don't care about Hercules or Cho. Yes Incredible Herc 112-115 was awesome, this was just, not good at all.

I might have to drop this, if I'm not happy with next month's issue. Bring back the Hulk already, please..

The issue was confusing, and the only eternal that I give a damn about is Cannonball from X-Force.

I read it again, its just an average issue, where nothing really happened, definitely a filler issue, disapointing.

[Cthulhudrew]

It doesn't really clarify it, it just brings up the issue again. It was a one-off line in... it may not have actually been Avengers #300, but if not that one exactly, a nearby issue. Gil makes a comment about how he's been confused for Hercules before, and about how he actually did some of the labors. The gag is that he's been confused for pretty much every major hero at some point. He's also been Samson.

It must have been much earlier than Avengers #300. It was mentioned in the Forgotten One's OHOTMU Deluxe entry (in 1986). My guess- and it's just a guess- is that the discrepancy arose when the Eternals were "folded into" the Marvel Universe. Originally, as I understand it, they weren't intended to be a part of the MU, or at least not a big part. They were supposed to be the Olympian Gods (hence the names)- ie, they were scientifically created, but their powers caused the people to worship them as gods.

When they were brought into the mainstream, well- there were already Olympian gods existing (and Norse, etc.), so an explanation had to be provided for the differences. That explanation was that the Olympian gods sometimes used the Olympian Eternals as go-betweens with the mortals- and hence the similar names and concepts (Athena/Thena, Zeus/Zuras, etc.).

I assume that at some point in the first Eternals series, it was explained that the Forgotten One had completed some of the labors of Hercules (was Hercules, for all intents and purposes at the time), but then when he was brought into the mainstream where Hercules existed, they retconned things by saying that some of the Labors were performed by Herc, some by the Forgotten One.

But yeah, the Forgotten One has long been mistaken for other heroes. IIRC, he's not even necessarily the "real" Gilgamesh, but that was yet another hero he was mistaken for at one point (and, due to memory loss, believed he was). I may be wrong about that part, though- I don't have the (Cap? Thor?) Annual with the Gilgamesh/Kang story in it any more, and wasn't reading Avengers at the time the Forgotten One took the name Gilgamesh.

[mikekerr3]

Sometimes stuff does happen for no reason. But in a literary work, charging people money for something completely random that in no way donates to the larger story and is, ultimately, a complete waste of the characters' time, doesn't work. This is a nice standalone issue, certainly, but it serves no purpose. It's a oneshot completely independent of the title that, with a couple alterations, could have happened anywhere, at any point, in the character's story. The only actual substance to the entire issue is a couple pages at the beginning of Athena and Cho, and the last sequence with the gathering of the pantheons. It screams "blatant filler material" to me, and I'm allergic to filler.

I see it as a touch of realism, the unscheduled glitch, the literary scenic route. if not doneoften often provides incite to the character.

[Camron Amaya]

I've always hated the Eternals. They just bring in uneccesery confusion dammit!

[StoneGold]

It must have been much earlier than Avengers #300. It was mentioned in the Forgotten One's OHOTMU Deluxe entry (in 1986). My guess- and it's just a guess- is that the discrepancy arose when the Eternals were "folded into" the Marvel Universe. Originally, as I understand it, they weren't intended to be a part of the MU, or at least not a big part. They were supposed to be the Olympian Gods (hence the names)- ie, they were scientifically created, but their powers caused the people to worship them as gods.

When they were brought into the mainstream, well- there were already Olympian gods existing (and Norse, etc.), so an explanation had to be provided for the differences. That explanation was that the Olympian gods sometimes used the Olympian Eternals as go-betweens with the mortals- and hence the similar names and concepts (Athena/Thena, Zeus/Zuras, etc.).

I assume that at some point in the first Eternals series, it was explained that the Forgotten One had completed some of the labors of Hercules (was Hercules, for all intents and purposes at the time), but then when he was brought into the mainstream where Hercules existed, they retconned things by saying that some of the Labors were performed by Herc, some by the Forgotten One.

But yeah, the Forgotten One has long been mistaken for other heroes. IIRC, he's not even necessarily the "real" Gilgamesh, but that was yet another hero he was mistaken for at one point (and, due to memory loss, believed he was). I may be wrong about that part, though- I don't have the (Cap? Thor?) Annual with the Gilgamesh/Kang story in it any more, and wasn't reading Avengers at the time the Forgotten One took the name Gilgamesh.

Wasn't aware it was earlier. In any event, it's a minor continuity point that is being picked up on and exploited.

[StoneGold]

The issue was confusing, and the only eternal that I give a damn about is Cannonball from X-Force.

That's External, not Eternal.

[Trey]

This was anything but filler. What should the story have been then?

Humans are worshipping the Dreaming Celestial. Athena and crew head out to investigate. Athena knows a war is coming. We get more insight into Cho (as Athena guides him). Gods and Eternals fighting under the Golden Celestial. Skrull head (Medusa style, natch)

All setting up --- na na na na na na na na na na - God Squad!!!!

Filler is when maybe a fillin team do a one-shot. If you don't like Cho or Herc, don't insult the writers by calling it filler when its clearly not.

Hulk has his own book too. This is Herc's book now.

[Dr. Chaos]

This makes me wonder if Athena wasn't even aware of the skrulls until recently (she apparently found one, killed it...and decided to keep it's head).

Is it possible not even greek gods can see through the skrulls now? I'm not sure how that would or wouldn't work, I forget how the whole power structure of the gods tends to work in the MU (are they omnipresent? All knowing? Apparently not Zeus, according to Herc) in regards to Asgard, Olympus and all that jazz.

[Dr. Banner]

Hulk has his own book too. This is Herc's book now.

Then why are we discussing this in the Hulk forum?

[Camron Amaya]

This makes me wonder if Athena wasn't even aware of the skrulls until recently (she apparently found one killed it...and decided to keep it's head).

Is it possible not even greek gods can see through the skrulls now? I'm not sure how that would or wouldn't work, I forget how the whole power structure of the gods tends to work in the MU (are they omnipresent? All knowing? Apparently not Zeus, according to Herc) in regards to Asgard, Olympus and all that jazz.

Nah they're far from Omnipresent...even Odin wasn't perfect, just really really wise and sensetive to any disturbances and events coming.

[Shyft]

Alright, while I did love Athena from the first page onward, and warmly welcome her addition to the cast...this episode didn't do it for me. Mostly because it was just an excuse to have Hercules fight the Eternals as pure, blatant filler until the Secret Invasion tie-ins start. The Eternals fight came completely out of nowhere and served no purpose within the plot other than to pad the story, because without it, it would have been three pages of them getting to San Francisco, then 18 pages of Athena apologizing to the camera for not coming up with something to keep us entertained while they fill space.

The misunderstanding personifies this filler: it is revealed that Hercules is NOT Hercules, but is in fact, an Eternal, except he's actually not and is, in fact, Hercules. Nothing new is developed. The character takes nothing away from this experience. The entire thing was pointless.

One of the Eternals joins the God Squad, so maybe this issue was setting up the reason why the Eternals had a presence at the meeting to create the God Squad, and thus supply a member.

[Tobias Drake]

This was anything but filler. What should the story have been then?

Humans are worshipping the Dreaming Celestial. Athena and crew head out to investigate. Athena knows a war is coming. We get more insight into Cho (as Athena guides him). Gods and Eternals fighting under the Golden Celestial. Skrull head (Medusa style, natch)

All setting up --- na na na na na na na na na na - God Squad!!!!

Filler is when maybe a fillin team do a one-shot. If you don't like Cho or Herc, don't insult the writers by calling it filler when its clearly not.

Hulk has his own book too. This is Herc's book now.

I love Herc, don't get me wrong. I hope Hulk never gets this title back, because Herc and now Athena continue to impress me. I admit to being biased against Cho but I enjoy the way Athena plays off him.

That said...this was clearly filler. There wasn't enough story with them just going to San Francisco to gather the God Squad, and they couldn't move on to the actual God Squad and Sacred Invasion for another month, so they had to come up with a random, out of the blue Eternals battle that serves absolutely no purpose in the story, literally comes out of nowhere, takes up most of the issue, and contributes nothing whatsoever. The only purpose the Eternals fight served was as a Thinly Veiled Pilot for the Eternals series. They padded out the book with a large fight scene that contributes nothing to the grander story for the sole purpose of killing time until the plot can start back up. That is filler.

Don't automatically assume a bad review means the reviewer hates the title.

[MadMan22]

Then why are we discussing this in the Hulk forum?

Cause, unlike Hulk, this book comes out on time.

[Dr. Banner]

Cause, unlike Hulk, this book comes out on time.

So does Moon Knight.
That's not discussed here, is it?

[dkostus]

So does Moon Knight.
That's not discussed here, is it?

The Hulk hardly has enough topics to create threads to justify the forum... it actually came out of WWH, which is directly what this series sprang from.

If you don't like it, why don't you just not click on the link instead of being a DB?

[Expletive Deleted]

Then why are we discussing this in the Hulk forum?Inertia.

I mean, I'll gladly take this series off Mike's hands if he doesn't want it anymore . . .

[DaeJi]

Inertia.

I mean, I'll gladly take this series off Mike's hands if he doesn't want it anymore . . .

Yeah, we should move the Hulk to the Marvel Universe forum and give cosmic Marvel it's own forum!

[Dr. Banner]

Inertia.

I mean, I'll gladly take this series off Mike's hands if he doesn't want it anymore . . .

Don't get me wrong, I like the traffic in here (and with the upcoming movie, it'll hopefully bring more life to the forum), but I was mostly reacting to Trey's comment about "this being Herc's book now" which seemed kind of odd to point out in this forum.

[ANewHope]

Yeah, I'm sick of Hercules already... This has gone on long enough. Hercules has hijacked Incredible Hulk since 106, the name change only came about at 112


Hopefully, the God Squad arc will turn out to be great. I certaintly hope so, but if it doesn't meet my expectations, I definitely want the Hulk back. What I really want are quality stories, as long as Hercules is written well thats what matters most to me. But if this trend of medicore writing continues, I rather see this series end well instead of dragging on too long and flopping. This was the first crappy issue in a long time, it had to happen sometime, this was it. I hope it doesn't continue.

Especially with all of the Red Hulk's delays, I want my angry green friend back. They had a cool 4 issue run, leave it at that, hopefully by the time Secret Invasion resolves, Hulk will be back where he belongs.

[mikekerr3]

This makes me wonder if Athena wasn't even aware of the skrulls until recently (she apparently found one, killed it...and decided to keep it's head).

Is it possible not even greek gods can see through the skrulls now? I'm not sure how that would or wouldn't work, I forget how the whole power structure of the gods tends to work in the MU (are they omnipresent? All knowing? Apparently not Zeus, according to Herc) in regards to Asgard, Olympus and all that jazz.

To Athena figuring things out comes as naturally as killing does to Ares. She is the goddess of both the arts of war and wisdom, born with a battle cry on her lips.

If she is Cho's new mentor he will be really dangerous.

[Dagger]

Nah they're far from Omnipresent...even Odin wasn't perfect, just really really wise and sensetive to any disturbances and events coming.

Plus he had his 'crystal' ball, or special eye thing or whatever he had to look down on any part of the nine worlds that he wanted to see at that moment. Plus he also had his two crows he would send out to spy for him.

[Dr. Chaos]

Seeing as how it reacted to a mere accident, I feel sorry for the poor bastard that ever tries vandalizing or pissing on that Celestial.

[jackolover]

The Hercules book just seems like a filler story between the SHIELD destruction attempt, and the Skrull Invasion, but there is just the hint that there is something not quite right with Hercules here. This starts to feel a little like the Captain Marvel story, with little memory losses, and that little bag Athena was carrying, starts to become a little important when it has to do with Hercules.

Why have the Eternals caught Hercules out on a false memory? That came out of left field. And that little advice Athena gave to Amadeus Cho about repeating your own mistakes, makes me think Athena has her usefullness around the boy, especially as she is more a hero, than the berserker Hercules, Cho has been hanging with. And If herc is discovered to be a Skrull, then Cho losses a friend, but gains a goddess.

[dkostus]

Yeah, I'm sick of Hercules already... This has gone on long enough. Hercules has hijacked Incredible Hulk since 106, the name change only came about at 112


Hopefully, the God Squad arc will turn out to be great. I certaintly hope so, but if it doesn't meet my expectations, I definitely want the Hulk back. What I really want are quality stories, as long as Hercules is written well thats what matters most to me. But if this trend of medicore writing continues, I rather see this series end well instead of dragging on too long and flopping. This was the first crappy issue in a long time, it had to happen sometime, this was it. I hope it doesn't continue.

Especially with all of the Red Hulk's delays, I want my angry green friend back. They had a cool 4 issue run, leave it at that, hopefully by the time Secret Invasion resolves, Hulk will be back where he belongs.

With some of the other crap that's out there, you call THIS poor writing?

I have long boxes full of old comics that have one-off stories between arcs all the time. Lots of times they had a ton of one-shots in a row... here you got development on the two main characters and the introduction of the third member of the cast, plus a fight scene thrown in... mostly to make the readers who pick it up expecting a fight happy.

Even if you go back and look at PAD's hulk run there were some filler stories and some random, inexplicable fights thrown in just because that's what the Hulk and Hercules do... they fight really strong people.

[MadMan22]

I totally see what your saying. Also, did anyone notice that Herc's way of speaking was a little off this issue?

[MadMan22]

The Hercules book just seems like a filler story between the SHIELD destruction attempt, and the Skrull Invasion, but there is just the hint that there is something not quite right with Hercules here. This starts to feel a little like the Captain Marvel story, with little memory losses, and that little bag Athena was carrying, starts to become a little important when it has to do with Hercules.

Why have the Eternals caught Hercules out on a false memory? That came out of left field. And that little advice Athena gave to Amadeus Cho about repeating your own mistakes, makes me think Athena has her usefullness around the boy, especially as she is more a hero, than the berserker Hercules, Cho has been hanging with. And If herc is discovered to be a Skrull, then Cho losses a friend, but gains a goddess.


I totally see what your saying. Also did anyone notice that Herc's way of speaking was a bit off this issue?

[Trey]

With some of the other crap that's out there, you call THIS poor writing?

I have long boxes full of old comics that have one-off stories between arcs all the time. Lots of times they had a ton of one-shots in a row... here you got development on the two main characters and the introduction of the third member of the cast, plus a fight scene thrown in... mostly to make the readers who pick it up expecting a fight happy.

Even if you go back and look at PAD's hulk run there were some filler stories and some random, inexplicable fights thrown in just because that's what the Hulk and Hercules do... they fight really strong people.

That's what i'm saying. This was very good filler, if we want to call it that.. There is still development of the story and characters. And a kickass fight between Eternals and Hercules!!! (Cho sniping with adamantium shards, hahaha)
It's cool if some of you didn't enjoy it , though.

[yamiangie]

I asumed that Herk was a bit dunk since they seemed to stop for beer 30 times on the road trip map. Anyone else notice the Colbert 08 bumpersticker one athena's hummer?

[mikekerr3]

I asumed that Herk was a bit dunk since they seemed to stop for beer 30 times on the road trip map. Anyone else notice the Colbert 08 bumpersticker one athena's hummer?

Who else would the goddess of wisdom vote for?

[kenjeffrey]

This issue was enough to convince me to drop this title. I was undecided at the beginning- never been a big fan of Jerkules - but now I'm sure.

There must be something better I can spend my money on.

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

This issue was enough to convince me to drop this title. I was undecided at the beginning- never been a big fan of Jerkules - but now I'm sure.

There must be something better I can spend my money on.

It's a shame that you don't like Herc and his compatriots, Ken, and it's disappointing that you feel the need to drop the title.
In my opinion this is actually one of the under-the-radar books out at the moment. This book was not meant to succeed unlike OMD/BND and Secret Invasion so therefore Joe Q has left it mandate-free and it's given Pak and Van Lente a chance to shine.
If you choose to spend your money on something else then may I recommend Peter David's X-Factor? That is unless you're buying it already.:smile:

[Dagger]

This title is simply amazing! I can't wait for the next issue! I'm lovin' me some Hercules and Cho!

[Superheroic]

I liked it a whole lot despite Herc's very bad dialogue. The art was amazing. Really looking forward to the next one.

[bluedmighty]

YOOOOOOOOOOO Cho :biggrin:

Does anybody know who the god squad are (what deities)?

[Gnarl]

God Squad is na na na na na!

Athenas contempt for mortals worshipping was a bit off. Or was she being bitchy about thir chioce of god, more than worshipping something greater? Didn't really come of.

nananananana

[Tobias Drake]

God Squad is na na na na na!

Athenas contempt for mortals worshipping was a bit off. Or was she being bitchy about thir chioce of god, more than worshipping something greater? Didn't really come of.

nananananana

I took it as jealousy. She was being bitchy about them worshipping a giant gold idol that they could clearly see, rather than having faith in something beyond them, ie: her.