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drwho
04-14-2008, 03:14 PM
Does anyone think any of the newer mutants introduced with the New X-Men series actually have any type of staying power which will last 20 years? I am going to say nope cus they are all forgettable to me. What does everyone else think? Does anyone have staying power in your opinion?

pryde15
04-14-2008, 03:17 PM
I am going to have to say no. The New Mutants have been around for 20s years, and Generation X has been around for awhile as well, and they still aren't being used as often as they should. Also the fact that their are 25 characters from New X-Men, and about 6-10 characters in Generation X & New Mutants.

Home made ectoplasm
04-14-2008, 03:19 PM
Sometimes reading this board it feels like they've already been around for 20 years.

worstblogever
04-14-2008, 03:19 PM
Dude, people around these parts worship even the obscure ones like Trance and Loa.

However, mainstream?

Elixir, Dust, Rockslide, X-23, Anole and Hellion get a lot of love. I mean, it's been 15 years since Generation X, and Jubilee, Husk, Monet, and Chamber are still in team books in some incarnation or another. People clamored when kids went missing after M-Day and the bus explosion, asking C&C who's alive and who's dead, really. Now they riot when they feel Anole is left off a team.

Saying none of them will get any love in 20 years is like saying any new X-team hasn't produced favorites. Not New Mutants, Gen X, or New X-men.

They'll be there.

pryde15
04-14-2008, 03:21 PM
Dude, people around these parts worship even the obscure ones like Trance and Loa.

However, mainstream?

Elixir, Dust, Rockslide, X-23, Anole and Hellion get a lot of love. I mean, it's been 15 years since Generation X, and Jubilee, Husk, Monet, and Chamber are still in team books in some incarnation or another. People clamored when kids went missing after M-Day and the bus explosion, asking C&C who's alive and who's dead, really. Now they riot when they feel Anole is left off a team.

Saying none of them will get any love in 20 years is like saying any new X-team hasn't produced favorites. Not New Mutants, Gen X, or New X-men.

They'll be there.

Trance is awesome, 'nuff said.

Anyways yeah I guess you are right, some of them will appear. But with the amount of characters in New X-Men, I am going to guess and say some of them might not be seen again. They will get the Karma treatment :frown:

Brian M.
04-14-2008, 03:22 PM
Does anyone think any of the newer mutants introduced with the New X-Men series actually have any type of staying power which will last 20 years? I am going to say nope cus they are all forgettable to me. What does everyone else think? Does anyone have staying power in your opinion?

Oh well if they are forgottable by you then surely they stand no chance. You are clearly the barometer for success what with the Sleepwalker avatar and such.

Some have staying power, some don't.

worstblogever
04-14-2008, 03:23 PM
Trance is awesome, 'nuff said.

Anyways yeah I guess you are right, some of them will appear. But with the amount of characters in New X-Men, I am going to guess and say some of them might not be seen again. They will get the Karma treatment :frown:

Oh yeah. Make no mistake, they're all not coming back. I doubt you'll see Match except once every five years.

But a lot of the other kids? They didn't get time in MC and fight the Marauders and Acolytes in the final battle because editorial wants them buried.

FroFroYo
04-14-2008, 03:24 PM
Love Loa! But I don't think she'll ever be used again. xD

Elixir, however, does have a shot at being around forever, because he's like, the only healer alive, right? 'Cept for healing blood, but that's lame. So yah, if they ever need a super healer, we might hear his name come up, or even see a cameo. =D

And maybe Dust, if we are lucky. Because there aren't really any Muslim mutants alive other than her- and people love diversity.

DeadMuskrat
04-14-2008, 03:36 PM
It really depends on who handles them from here on out. Some characters that have the potential in my book are:

Armor - A character that a lot of writers seem to be grasping onto lately. Probably because she's a clean slate and there is much that can be done with her

Hellion - I really think Hellion should be on the main team in Uncanny. He has a lot of potential in power and character.

Elixir - I liked Josh a lot for some reason in New X-Men and would love to see him explored. The only problem is that his power level can be hard to write. So far no one has put limits to him which is fun and dangerous. Instead of giving him limits, they've resorted to having him get knocked out so he can't heal in almost every situation. He would have to be handled carefully.

X23 - She's literally a female Wolverine clone. She's here to stay.

Rockslide - Great powers and good coimc relief. I don't see how any writer wouldn't want a character like him on the team.

Pach!
04-14-2008, 03:56 PM
Hellion, Armor, X-23.

Affinity
04-14-2008, 03:58 PM
Dust, Armor, Hellion, and X-23 especially I can see sticking around.

Hellion might blend away but I think he works with a certain demographic. Dust is possibly the only thing left over, aside from Emma, from Morrison's run and if she made it through that horrible series of retcons than she can survive anything!

RickyD410
04-14-2008, 04:05 PM
Its interesting that no one is saying Pixie. Marvel seems to really have taken a liking to her. She's got the whole Free Comic Book Day comic to herself, and she's going to be on the main team in Uncanny X-Men. Marvel seems to be really pushing for her.

_Jayme_
04-14-2008, 04:10 PM
The people who will say Trance...go stick your head in a deep fryer..quickly.

I'm looking at Hellion, Anole and maybe Mercury. All three get alot of love from fans and seem to have alot more story in them.

Of course X-23 will, but I've never really considered her part of NXM for some reason.

RickyD410
04-14-2008, 04:14 PM
The people who will say Trance...go stick your head in a deep fryer..quickly.
There was no need for that.


Of course X-23 will, but I've never really considered her part of NXM for some reason.
Same with me.

Hi-Fi
04-14-2008, 04:23 PM
The people who will say Trance...go stick your head in a deep fryer..quickly.

I'm looking at Hellion, Anole and maybe Mercury. All three get alot of love from fans and seem to have alot more story in them.

Er, does anyone even remember Mercury? She's nowhere to be seen. I think yours is the head inside a deep fryer, Jayme. Say hello to the Trance fans for me!


Anyway, a Sleepwalker fan talking about forgettable characters is LOL indulcing.

drwho
04-14-2008, 04:33 PM
Er, does anyone even remember Mercury? She's nowhere to be seen. I think yours is the head inside a deep fryer, Jayme. Say hello to the Trance fans for me!


Anyway, a Sleepwalker fan talking about forgettable characters is LOL indulcing.

Ahh but Sleepwalker had a 30 issue series. :wink:

MuhollandDriver
04-14-2008, 04:37 PM
Anole seems to be quite popular with fans and writers/artists. He has a unique look and a great personality. He is geniune and sweet but also means business. Good leadership qualities also. i could see him making it to the big leagues.

Elixir has potential for either a member, a villain, or a hero who goes all omega crazy.

Dust reminds me of Storm in her early days. Quite powerful also. She has an intense persona and very cool powers. i could see her staying down the road.

Rockslide -is- quite funny. The scene with him bugging Gentle while meditating was priceless. He has great buddy chemistry with Anole. Some do not care for him...but he is the heart of whatever team he is in...in many ways.

Hellion i just do not see making it. He had a purpose on the youth team.

Pixie..i suppose. i found her quite funny and cute..yet don't know if she is a dynamic as some others...which is why the big push surprises me. Nonetheless....maybe she will develop further.

i don't care about X-23.

Hi-Fi
04-14-2008, 04:39 PM
Ahh but Sleepwalker had a 30 issue series. :wink:
Oh, I FORGOT about it.

creaky
04-14-2008, 04:40 PM
Er, does anyone even remember Mercury? She's nowhere to be seen. I think yours is the head inside a deep fryer, Jayme. Say hello to the Trance fans for me!

I love Mercury. :frown:

FroFroYo
04-14-2008, 04:41 PM
I love Mercury. :frown:


I'm sorry. :frown:

Hi-Fi
04-14-2008, 04:42 PM
I love Mercury. :frown:
FRYER for you!!!


You can stay next to us, Loa lovers. Make room, you guys!

Siddon
04-14-2008, 04:47 PM
The characters that will last

I think Rockslide Pixie and Mercury will be around in 20 years. I assume those three will make the main roster due to distinctive powers, voice, and character design.

the secondary character club

I think X-23, Hellion, Anole, Dust, Armor will be characters like M or Rahne who figure prominately in second tier books.

Dead in 5 years

Elixier, Prodigy, Surge, Wind dancer, Wither I don't see that group making it to issue 600

Nite-Wing
04-14-2008, 04:56 PM
Did everyone forget about Surge, Mercury, and David. I mean they basically lead the team. How can they be forgotten while side characters like anole, pixie, and rockslide get in books.

Kid Icarus
04-14-2008, 04:59 PM
Sohpie Cuckoo?

darknessatnoon
04-14-2008, 05:13 PM
Beak, Angel II, Esme Cuckoo, Ernst, No Girl, Kid Omega, etc., are the only true New X-Men. I do not acknowledge these other "characters" under discussion.

Beak > X23.

End of story.

Pach!
04-14-2008, 05:24 PM
Did everyone forget about Surge, Mercury, and David. I mean they basically lead the team. How can they be forgotten while side characters like anole, pixie, and rockslide get in books.

David is a human which although interesting in New X-men, is ultimately a hazard in a major league team.

Surge still has her appearance in X-men divide we stand which might shed some light regarding where she's going.

Mercury is a character I like, but she has her chance twice and no one seems to really feel too strongly about her. The problem with books with 12+ main characters is that some become forgettable... like Mercury.

La Fea
04-14-2008, 05:32 PM
I think Pixie will be more like a Jubilee than a Kitty Pryde. She'll be a big star for a little while I think, age awkwardly, and then be largely hated by all except the nostalgic New X-Men fans.

Otherwise, I can honestly only see Anole lasting if he's given the push and X-23 for obvious reasons.

Hellion is a possibility but he either a) needs his jerkish attitude back or b) be involved in something big, which his costarring short story with Magneto just may lead to.

And of course, Sofia Louisa Mantega will ride his coattails.

Nite-Wing
04-14-2008, 05:47 PM
David is a human which although interesting in New X-men, is ultimately a hazard in a major league team.

Surge still has her appearance in X-men divide we stand which might shed some light regarding where she's going.

Mercury is a character I like, but she has her chance twice and no one seems to really feel too strongly about her. The problem with books with 12+ main characters is that some become forgettable... like Mercury.

The problem is that one of messiah complex's major factions(Predator X) was created because of her and it would suck if Marvel forgets about her.

Diablito
04-14-2008, 05:54 PM
Armor seems to be hitting it big (although I don't really see her as a New X-Man)
Rockslide, Elixir, and Hellion have potential.
X-23 is also gonna be pretty big.

drwho
04-14-2008, 06:05 PM
i cant wait for the Dark Pixie Saga.

Brett P
04-14-2008, 06:07 PM
Dust predates the New X-Men. She definately needs to stick around. Hellion deserves a future in the X books. Armor has a lot of potential. Rockslide, Anole and Pixie could go either way. Elixir is his own worst enemy as he has to be taken out of the picture anytime they want people to be injured, even if that means an off panel, wall-induced coma.


Er, does anyone even remember Mercury? She's nowhere to be seen. I think yours is the head inside a deep fryer, Jayme. Say hello to the Trance fans for me!
.

Yeah, I mean when Nick Lowe was asked who he thought could make it to the big leagues he said Mercury, which made me hopeful but she doesn't really have a distinct personality. Take her out of the group of people she interacted with and there's not alot to work with. I really love her and her powers though.


The problem is that one of messiah complex's major factions(Predator X) was created because of her and it would suck if Marvel forgets about her.

This is true, but then Mercury was able to take out one by herself just by touching it originally and yet in Messiah, it was totally forgotten about since Pixie thought the fact that X-23 "hurt" one was their best bet.

Nevets F
04-14-2008, 06:24 PM
Pixie, X-23, Armor, Blindfold and Dust will be around for a long time, maybe Anole (and four of those were created outside of the New X-Men, I know). Most of the others will fall into limbo like the New Mutants and Gen X usually are.

I always thought Hellion and the Cuckoos would be around for a while...I don't know anymore though. Pak hurt the Cuckoos a lot, and I dont know about Hellion if he in in Limbo too long, he may stay.

Surge, Mercury, all the background kids, Prodigy, Elixr, Rockslide...they don't have much hope to last long. I see a Skin/Bedlam type death for some of them, and limbo for the rest.

Deus ex Chris
04-14-2008, 06:37 PM
I also think that Dust, X-23, Armor, Pixie and perhaps Anole have the most potential for sticking. Of course, I could see Pixie sent down a more mystical path that might perhaps take her away from the X-Men, but I still think she has sticking potential. I think Hellion and Rockslide do as well just not to the same extent as those five.

Brett P
04-14-2008, 06:41 PM
I also think that Dust, X-23, Armor, Pixie and perhaps Anole have the most potential for sticking. Of course, I could see Pixie sent down a more mystical path that might perhaps take her away from the X-Men, but I still think she has sticking potential. I think Hellion and Rockslide do as well just not to the same extent as those five.

Oh Chris, you know you want Mercury and her fabulous orange hair to hit the big time! :biggrin:

Pixie is a bit of a cheeseball concept don't you think? - right down to her name. I can't see her being good for much except annoying the F out of everyone she stars with. That works best with adults, so when (if) she ages she could face Jubilee problems. Doc Strange is her best bet for longevity imo.

Deus ex Chris
04-14-2008, 06:47 PM
Oh Chris, you know you want Mercury and her fabulous orange hair to hit the big time! :biggrin:
I'm glad the writers are finally confirming what I've known all along. Mercury is FAIL.


Pixie is a bit of a cheeseball concept don't you think? - right down to her name. I can't see her being good for much except annoying the F out of everyone she stars with. That works best with adults, so when (if) she ages she could face Jubilee problems. Doc Strange is her best bet for longevity imo.
LOL
She definitely brings a specific dynamic to a group, and I could also see her working with Dr. Strange. I could see her annoying Captain Britain and Pete Wisdom too.

Hakael
04-14-2008, 07:30 PM
I think that three or four have big potential for main X-Books (Hellion, Mercury, Rockslide, Anole). Others will be put into supporting roles, showing up when a story dictates. Some may find themselves in new books, or as supporting cast in the tier books like X-Factor or Excalibur. I can't imagine Pixie having a longstanding appeal, I think she has a story arc or two to go deal with her soul dagger and Darkchylde before she gets hit with a limbo bat.

If Young X-Men doesn't stick, I don't see many of that cast moving forward too far. I think many of the background students will disappear, head to the initiative or something. They'll be part of their state's super team.

Say what you will about decimation, but if anything good came out of it its that limbo won't be as long for mutants anymore. There's only such a large pool you can pull from, and I would think writers would be asked to tone down on creating new mutant threats or team members to keep the X-Universe from getting too bloated again. Hopefully it means writers can find a way to work with pre-existing characters to form their stories so people won't have to wait so long to see characters they enjoy.

_Jayme_
04-14-2008, 07:34 PM
There was no need for that.

Truly, I'm not that bothered.

Pixie could get better in time, imo. I'm still not past the entire thing of making her look like a bug and etc..I get that there needs to be cute characters for children and all that, but how long will being cute and bubbly work before people want a switch?

FroFroYo
04-14-2008, 07:40 PM
If Young X-Men doesn't stick, I don't see many of that cast moving forward too far. I think many of the background students will disappear, head to the initiative or something. They'll be part of their state's super team.



Alani Ryan aka Loa- Leader of the Hawaiian Super Team. :smile:

Joe Franklin
04-14-2008, 07:40 PM
Wolf Cub. He's the best.:cool:

Nevets F
04-14-2008, 07:46 PM
Wolf Cub. He's the best.:cool:

I have some bad news for you...

Joe Franklin
04-14-2008, 07:47 PM
I have some bad news for you...

:eek: He's not the best?

FroFroYo
04-14-2008, 07:49 PM
:eek: He's not the best?


:frown: We're all here for you in your time of need...

Joe Franklin
04-14-2008, 07:51 PM
:frown: We're all here for you in your time of need...

Who has been able to prove he's not the best? I have yet to see the proof?:confused:

frog
04-14-2008, 07:56 PM
Does anyone think any of the newer mutants introduced with the New X-Men series actually have any type of staying power which will last 20 years? I am going to say nope cus they are all forgettable to me. What does everyone else think? Does anyone have staying power in your opinion?

You seem to already have forgotten M-Day.

Considering that there isn't a huge population of potential new characters I'm fairly certain we will be seeing some of the New X-Men for some time, no matter how much you may wish otherwise.

streator
04-14-2008, 08:16 PM
most will be forgotten/killed. a writer will come along and add one or two to their cast, but once they leave their pet characters will likely leave as well. if i had to guess, i'd say these characters have the best shot:

x-23
armor
gentle
anole
hellion
pixie
dust
stepford cuckoos

Jackob
04-14-2008, 08:21 PM
id say that rockslide, hellion, x-23, anole, pixie, dust, and blindfold will be around for a while.
and elixir is going to be around as background character atleast, for fixing wounded xmen like a school nurse. or a sweet villan.

RickyD410
04-14-2008, 08:29 PM
Wolf Cub. He's the best.:cool:
:biggrin:

:frown: We're all here for you in your time of need...
I'm thinking of starting a support group...

Peter F.
04-14-2008, 10:16 PM
Poor Surge, Mercury and Prodigy.

They get no love.

HeckBoy
04-14-2008, 10:27 PM
I'd say X-23 will consistently stay in the forefront. Hellion, Dust, and Rockslide will probably alternate between periods of high activity and inactivity. And I think most (but not all) of the remaining New X-Men will go thru long periods in limbo b4 being popping up sporadically.

creaky
04-14-2008, 10:29 PM
Poor Surge, Mercury and Prodigy.

They get no love.

I LOVE THEM ALL!

OK, except Prodigy.

RickyD410
04-14-2008, 10:30 PM
Poor Surge, Mercury and Prodigy.

They get no love.

I love them!! But I'm one of the few...

podmark
04-14-2008, 10:33 PM
Once someone (Cebulski?) fixes Surge I think she'll have staying power. She's always been front and center of the book.

X-23 is here for good.

Hellion will likely be around.

Next two years will probably determine Anole's long term fate.

I really wonder about Rockslide long-term. The X-Men generally stick to more human characters and he's one of the least human looking guys. Just look at the Uncanny covers, Rockslide is pretty unique on their and that might not be a good thing. Personality is somewhat limited currently.

Rest not sure. Dust will probably be around as long as there's a political interest, character wise no ones really had her broken through yet.

Elixir is a huge problem kid. I expect death for him one day.

Looks like Prodigy is already falling to Limbo. I expect he'll be a support character every so often unless someone gives him a breakout role sometime in within this year.

Mercury is in a similar but probably better position to Prodigy thanks to her exposure in things like WWH and Endangered species.

Armor and Pixie's fate will probably be determined by their current runs in Uncanny and Astonishing.

Gentle and the rest are in holding pending someone giving them a breakout role.

The Black Guardian
04-14-2008, 10:47 PM
Mercury will NOT be forgotten! I'll see to it! Seriously, she was one of my three favourites from the New X-Men. Of the whole cast, I cared more about her, Sooraya, and Laura than any of the others. I felt she showed a lot of promise as a leader--much more than Surge will ever have.

My fondness for Laura has waned considerably since X-Force. With the kids, she seemed to have a unique direction, but now, more than ever, she seems little more than Wolvie with breasts. I've almost stopped caring about her already.

IMO: Mercury, Dust, X-23, Rockslide, Anole, Pixie, Hellion, and Blindfold will last.

I think Armor's star will fade extremely rapidly.

HeckBoy
04-14-2008, 10:51 PM
Now that I think about it, it really is hard to tell just how well the X-kids will stick around. Given the whole comic-time/aging conundrum, it's hard to believe that any of the current crop will age enough to really stick. I mean, teen books haven't really had the best record in terms of consistent longevity. It's only when the characters age to at least young adulthood (like early 20s) and are able to legitimately hook on with an adult squad that they really take off I think (excluding extraordinary cases like Kitty and whatnot). Unless Marvel decides on some Hypertime explanation or just decides to go w/ a "don't ask, don't-tell"-type aging policy like what they apparently have w/ the Punisher (he was in Vietnam, yet there's been no official word on how he's still so young-looking and effective), I don't know how much Marvel will let the current crop age in the next decade or so.

Hakael
04-14-2008, 11:02 PM
Once someone (Cebulski?) fixes Surge I think she'll have staying power. She's always been front and center of the book.

X-23 is here for good.

Hellion will likely be around.

Next two years will probably determine Anole's long term fate.

I really wonder about Rockslide long-term. The X-Men generally stick to more human characters and he's one of the least human looking guys. Just look at the Uncanny covers, Rockslide is pretty unique on their and that might not be a good thing. Personality is somewhat limited currently.

Rest not sure. Dust will probably be around as long as there's a political interest, character wise no ones really had her broken through yet.

Elixir is a huge problem kid. I expect death for him one day.

Looks like Prodigy is already falling to Limbo. I expect he'll be a support character every so often unless someone gives him a breakout role sometime in within this year.

Mercury is in a similar but probably better position to Prodigy thanks to her exposure in things like WWH and Endangered species.

Armor and Pixie's fate will probably be determined by their current runs in Uncanny and Astonishing.

Gentle and the rest are in holding pending someone giving them a breakout role.

I think Prodigy and Amadeus Cho need to hang out.
Or Julian needs to drop a desk on him, whatever comes first.

Elixir's only real path is going to be as a minor support role (think of him going more zen than he already is, and becoming a healer for the third world) Or going evil. If he sticks around with the X-Men, I see a lot more of his nemesis The Collapsing Wall of Convenience striking whenever the writers want to put a character in mortal danger... or they could simply give his powers some limits.

I <3 Cess
Rockslide's a great visual.
Dust needs to have some exposure if she's gonna stick around in a meaningful way.

Surge just needs some time too cool off, and be less of a harpy.

RickyD410
04-14-2008, 11:10 PM
Elixir already has limits. He doenst have enough energy to just heal the world. This was shown in Astonishing, when he passes out after healing all 6 X-Men, and in WWH, where he told Beast he couldnt heal anymore without hurting himself, so Beast told him to run away.

Hakael
04-14-2008, 11:29 PM
Elixir already has limits. He doenst have enough energy to just heal the world. This was shown in Astonishing, when he passes out after healing all 6 X-Men, and in WWH, where he told Beast he couldnt heal anymore without hurting himself, so Beast told him to run away.

Those are pretty extensive limits. He's basically gotta overheal for his powers to shut down on him. So he can only handle a full team of mortally injured X-Men... thats still a full team of people the writers might want in mortal peril without an instant reverse at the ready. I love Josh, I love his capabilities, and I hope C&C touch more on them when he shows up in X-Force (lets see black elixir killing some crazies). But right now, I can understand people saying his powers are a problem. He's gonna become a walking target for the rogues list (take out the gold kid first!) so the rest of the X-Men will have to fight without the quick heal available.

ANewHope
04-15-2008, 12:20 AM
Mercury is bad @ss.

Although I haven't read enough New Xmen to know her character traits and personality, she's basically the T-1000 from Terminator 2.

Her powers are just that cool.

worstblogever
04-15-2008, 12:40 AM
i cant wait for the Dark Pixie Saga.

You say that like it's never going to happen, except that it's already been hinted at in interviews that her relationship with Magik, and how she got her Soul Dagger will be explored in the future.

La Fea
04-15-2008, 01:57 AM
:eek: He's not the best?

LOL! Great response!

Alex A Sanchez
04-15-2008, 02:14 AM
so it seems that everyone pretty much agrees that Anole will be around. Laura too, although there is some debate about her being considered a New X-man.

people seen to agree that Rockslide will stay- i don't know. visually, he's a fancy Thing. personality-wise he's Guido from the 90's.

Teh m0nk3y
04-15-2008, 02:27 AM
-Laura is here for the long run.
-Pixie might have a shot depending on the results of the Magik story.
-Elixir might retain some staying power as a background character that shows up every now and again.
-Hellion could go either way at the moment.
-Armor has got a shot.
-Dust has managed to survive so far...

broodjeork
04-15-2008, 05:37 AM
Mercury is bad @ss.

Although I haven't read enough New Xmen to know her character traits and personality, she's basically the T-1000 from Terminator 2.

Her powers are just that cool.

im with you, mercury is bad @ss:biggrin:
i just wish they showed that just a bit more:frown:

Novaya Havoc
04-15-2008, 05:42 AM
Does anyone think any of the newer mutants introduced with the New X-Men series actually have any type of staying power which will last 20 years? I am going to say nope cus they are all forgettable to me. What does everyone else think? Does anyone have staying power in your opinion?

Hellion, Pixie, and Bubblegum.

Dust doesn't count.

Wild Card13
04-15-2008, 05:51 AM
X-23 is a shoo-in, for reasons widely stated.

Armor is getting a push right now, but not much has really been done to make her distinctive, I think. If she doesn't get a defining role in Astonishing: Second Stage, then she's going to become a footnote in Marvel's history very fast.

I foresee Elixir either getting a huge curb in his power or going evil. If he does go evil, I see him as being the "powerhouse" of the operation, with David as the brains behind it. I dunno, it makes sense to me.

Rockslide, because of his personality, has a lot of staying power. I expect we'll see him in one of the major books very soon.

Anole is a fan favorite, and he's developed a very distinct persona in the pages of NXM. Also, Guggenheim said that we should expect to see Anole in the pages of Young X-Men very soon, so I have hope that he'll be around for a long time.

Surge is somewhat forgettable, despite having been team leader. I guess that unlike most of the internet, the X-writers don't like teenage Japanese girls that much.

I think Hellion will also be around for a while yet, if anything to serve as a romantic foil to the all ready-prominent X-23.

Wild Card13
04-15-2008, 05:52 AM
Double post.

Alex A Sanchez
04-15-2008, 02:02 PM
Hellion, Pixie, and Bubblegum.

Dust doesn't count.

YES!!! Bubblegum must stay! He is such an awesome character- especially once his tactile telepathy is revealed.

Nite-Wing
04-15-2008, 02:19 PM
whatever happened to Surge? Wasn't she the leader of the team. The X-office really dropped the ball after Messiah Complex. I mean they could have relaunched the book but what do they do they give us Young X-men which has new characters that I don't care about(except Dust:smile: ) and a writer thats even worse. Shame on you C&C for taking X-23 and running.

Hakael
04-15-2008, 02:45 PM
Shame on you C&C for taking X-23 and running.

LOL, hey, to be fair they may be taking others on the run with them.

I'm practically frothing at the mouth for Divided We Stand part 1 tomorrow.
Hellion and Anole stories FTW.

podmark
04-15-2008, 02:52 PM
Shame on you C&C for taking X-23 and running.


I'd love to be angry at C&C but X-Force is just soo good!

creaky
04-15-2008, 03:31 PM
whatever happened to Surge? Wasn't she the leader of the team.

We'll get to see in the second Divided We Stand anthology.

ProfeZZor X
04-15-2008, 03:36 PM
I hope they all just go away, just like when that X-Static team got taken out at the same time... Though Plazma was a cool character.

darknessatnoon
04-15-2008, 05:04 PM
I hope they all just go away, just like when that X-Static team got taken out at the same time... Though Plazma was a cool character.

Plazm, if I recall correctly, was a member of X-Force not X-Statix. I don't believe X-Statix ever really died. For one, they are immortal in my heart (save for Venus Dee Milo, the team's Jean Grey). Secondly, they were all such fame-whores they very likely faked their own deaths to increase their famousness.

La Fea
04-15-2008, 05:44 PM
I hope they all just go away, just like when that X-Static team got taken out at the same time... Though Plazma was a cool character.

Let's look at who's not in limbo and who's not...

After three relaunches, inconsistent and late artists, and one of the most whiniest fanbases ever (me included!)...and they still survived, I don't think these little bitches will be going out like that.

ToxicTeen
04-15-2008, 07:14 PM
Since I already know that Hellion, Pixie, Surge, Anole, & Gentle will make an appearance in Divided We Stand; Dust and Rockslide are in Young X-Men; and Wither will appear in X-Force, I wonder where Mercury will make a comeback? I also wonder what'll happen to Trance, Loa, and Indra? Are there going to be stuck in Comic Book Limbo? To be honest I thought that these guys would star in Young X-Men before I knew what the comic was going to be about.

Deus ex Chris
04-15-2008, 07:20 PM
I wonder where Mercury will make a comeback?
She won't! Her days are numbered!

Kid Icarus
04-15-2008, 07:22 PM
I still think Sophie Cuckoo
hopefully Anole
Porbably Bling!
who will unforutnately take ONyxxxxxxx
along with her

Brett P
04-15-2008, 07:24 PM
She won't! Her days are numbered!

Sorry Chris but I will not allow it! I wanna hear you hating on her orange hair for years to come! :biggrin:

She'd be pretty cool in the Initiative, she wants to do the right thing and lord knows they need some recruits with cool powers!

Deus ex Chris
04-15-2008, 07:28 PM
Sorry Chris but I will not allow it! I wanna hear you hating on her orange hair for years to come! :biggrin:
LOL
I'll continue to hate even after she's long gone--just for you!


She'd be pretty cool in the Initiative, she wants to do the right thing and lord knows they need some recruits with cool powers!
Maybe Iron Man can make a new armor out of her.

Brett P
04-15-2008, 07:36 PM
LOL
I'll continue to hate even after she's long gone--just for you!

I'm super tempted to whack out a Mercury avatar right now :biggrin:


Maybe Iron Man can make a new armor out of her.

LOL ...poor little Cess!

Blade X
04-15-2008, 08:08 PM
Does anyone think any of the newer mutants introduced with the New X-Men series actually have any type of staying power which will last 20 years? I am going to say nope cus they are all forgettable to me. What does everyone else think? Does anyone have staying power in your opinion?

I agree.

IMO, the reason why the characters introduced in NXM won't have any staying power that will let them last for the next 20 years is because MOST (if not ALL) of their powers are either unimpressive,generic,or unoriginal.

MarvelGirlBoy
04-15-2008, 08:15 PM
Um... No Girl. She's a brain, in a vat. Girl's not getting any more wrinkles.

Oh staying power as in, popularity-wise?

Surge (powers),
Hellion (powers),
Dust (character),
X-23 (archetype)
And though she's not a New X-Man, Armor (powers)

Pixie and Anole have potential via (character/powers) and (character/archetype) but the next couple of years will be crucial for seeing whether they can actually command enough fan and editorial love, or be written properly.

Elixir will die / be a villain.
The rest probably will be forgotten, to an extent. Blindfold had potential as (archetype/character) but I think that relevance may have been stolen from her by Guggenheim.

It also matters whether or not mutants stay sterilised, and for how long.


I LOVE THEM ALL!

OK, except Prodigy.

Aww, and I love you! :redface:


Once someone (Cebulski?) fixes Surge I think she'll have staying power. She's always been front and center of the book.

X-23 is here for good.

Hellion will likely be around.

Next two years will probably determine Anole's long term fate.

I really wonder about Rockslide long-term. The X-Men generally stick to more human characters and he's one of the least human looking guys. Just look at the Uncanny covers, Rockslide is pretty unique on their and that might not be a good thing. Personality is somewhat limited currently.

Rest not sure. Dust will probably be around as long as there's a political interest, character wise no ones really had her broken through yet.

Elixir is a huge problem kid. I expect death for him one day.

Looks like Prodigy is already falling to Limbo. I expect he'll be a support character every so often unless someone gives him a breakout role sometime in within this year.

Mercury is in a similar but probably better position to Prodigy thanks to her exposure in things like WWH and Endangered species.

Armor and Pixie's fate will probably be determined by their current runs in Uncanny and Astonishing.

Gentle and the rest are in holding pending someone giving them a breakout role.

That's a fairly good analysis, but I think 'for good' is still optimistic for X-23. She's here for a while yet, but it's possible people could get bored of her.

RickyD410
04-15-2008, 08:45 PM
That's a fairly good analysis, but I think 'for good' is still optimistic for X-23. She's here for a while yet, but it's possible people could get bored of her.
People might get bored of her, but Marvel won't.

kraiden
04-16-2008, 02:02 AM
rockslide is just too good with the fans to shove him off.
thats why I wasnt suprised he is in the new book.

I think dust will stay just to have a nice charachter thats middle eastern.

Im saying this objectively but Hellion is my favorite charachter, though I know theres really no room for him to stick around anymore.... hell they didnt even let him stay leader of his own team.

Teh m0nk3y
04-16-2008, 02:13 AM
Plazm, if I recall correctly, was a member of X-Force not X-Statix. I don't believe X-Statix ever really died. For one, they are immortal in my heart (save for Venus Dee Milo, the team's Jean Grey). Secondly, they were all such fame-whores they very likely faked their own deaths to increase their famousness.

Except for the Dead Girl series which had Tike in hell working with the bad guys.
How the hell did Tike Alicar end up in the nether realms of hell!?!
Cool that Edie showed up, but where was Venus Dee Milo?

I miss X-Statix. </3

Nite-Wing
04-16-2008, 03:55 AM
The fact is that Mercury was the one who saved the X-men in WWH and it would truly be an afront to that character if they just up and forget about her. Also was New X-Men selling that bad? I thought it sold more than X-men the last few months until messiah complex.

rZi
04-16-2008, 04:04 AM
Hopefully Armour and Dust

Blindfold can go die already.

Starfish
04-16-2008, 04:42 AM
Er, does anyone even remember Mercury? She's nowhere to be seen. I think yours is the head inside a deep fryer, Jayme. Say hello to the Trance fans for me!

I like you Hi-Fi, but now you leave me no choice but to say that I'm pretty sure that Rogue will be forgotten in limbo for another year or five, and that Mercury should get her spot on a team. :tongue:

rZi
04-16-2008, 04:48 AM
I like you Hi-Fi, but now you leave me no choice but to say that I'm pretty sure that Rogue will be forgotten in limbo for another year or five, and that Mercury should get her spot on a team. :tongue:

Carey's run really re-established Rogue i felt, getting her own team and what not. I just wish he would ditch this legacy mumbo jumbo and get back to writing her and some more children of the vault!

broodjeork
04-16-2008, 06:05 AM
I like you Hi-Fi, but now you leave me no choice but to say that I'm pretty sure that Rogue will be forgotten in limbo for another year or five, and that Mercury should get her spot on a team. :tongue:

you read my mind and took the words out of my mouth.
im with you all the way.:wink:

and besides wasnt it said that a new x-men will joing x-factor
with hints towards the charming mercury

Sanctus
04-16-2008, 06:49 AM
Gentle will be around off and on because he will be connected to BP and Storm, unless his powers go out of control and he dies. I hope he doesn't however. he has real potential.

X-23 will be around because people love claws and chicks and when you have claw wielding chicks, it's amazing. She is Marvel's Witchblade. Julian, because of his involvement with her will also be around (king of like a Super Boy). He will be secondary character for a while and then probably move into a Havok type relationship with Scott while always being a possible host for the Phoenix force.

Anole will be around because more so than Wolf Cub, he is a potential wolverine, or Spiderman (under the right writer).

Dust is just two awesome to go away.

Prodigy should expand beyond the X-Verse. Hopefully he can join SHIELD or something. Or Hydra. I like the idea of him running Hydra with Wither as his bodyguard and the Cuckoos as his advisors/executive assistants.

Rockslide is here to stay, if not frequently used.

Swashbuckler
04-16-2008, 06:54 AM
None of them will be around in 20 years. If they are, it won't be in much capactiy, or it will be in some new "New mutants" book that features yet another group of angsty teen mutants and they'll be the antagonist. Oh and Rockslide is the stupidest character ever.

ChristosSoter
04-16-2008, 07:44 AM
Honestly, I think that the thing that will help them most right now is original powers and distinct personalities.

Hellion, Anole, Dust, Rockslide, X-23, and Armor will most likely be around for a while. Other possibilities would be Elixir, Mercury, Surge, and Gentle.

As much as it pains me to say, I doubt characters like Trance, Loa, and Match will appear anywhere, ever again. Although, there is a rumor, that, once they kill off Cyclops, No-girl will lead the X-men.

Alex A Sanchez
04-16-2008, 12:04 PM
I wonder where Mercury will make a comeback?

I still have my money on her being a surprise addition to X-Factor.





Oh, and I the only fan that Prodigy has?
It's like every time I like a character, everyone else hates them (take Random for example).

protogarrett
04-16-2008, 12:20 PM
Trance is awesome, 'nuff said.

Anyways yeah I guess you are right, some of them will appear. But with the amount of characters in New X-Men, I am going to guess and say some of them might not be seen again. They will get the Karma treatment :frown:

Cause she's had SOOO much face time. She's made out and escpaed limbo to have a few quick lines. I don't understand how people can connect so tightly to these background characters who really haven't DONE anything.

Swashbuckler
04-16-2008, 12:27 PM
Cause she's had SOOO much face time. She's made out and escpaed limbo to have a few quick lines. I don't understand how people can connect so tightly to these background characters who really haven't DONE anything.

I guess they could be losers who've done NOTHING in life as well. That would give them a reason to connect with such empty shell characters. Perhaps I'm wrong though.

La Fea
04-16-2008, 12:30 PM
I guess they could be losers who've done NOTHING in life as well. That would give them a reason to connect with such empty shell characters. Perhaps I'm wrong though.

LOL get off their balls, dude.

You seem just as obsessed with their fans as they are with the characters.

Swashbuckler
04-16-2008, 12:40 PM
LOL get off their balls, dude.

You seem just as obsessed with their fans as they are with the characters.

I'd probably buy a mini about their fans.

La Fea
04-16-2008, 12:47 PM
I'd probably buy a mini about their fans.

Obsessed! See?!

Pixie_Solanas
04-16-2008, 12:48 PM
Basilisk.

Hyuuuuk.

Morrison's students blow Yost/Kyle's New X-men out of the water. Except for Pixie. I likes her.

podmark
04-16-2008, 02:25 PM
Oh, and I the only fan that Prodigy has?
It's like every time I like a character, everyone else hates them (take Random for example).

Hi, huge Prodigy fan here. I hope to see him again one day.

RickyD410
04-16-2008, 02:29 PM
Hi, huge Prodigy fan here. I hope to see him again one day.

Ditto. Hola.

pryde15
04-16-2008, 03:03 PM
I guess they could be losers who've done NOTHING in life as well. That would give them a reason to connect with such empty shell characters. Perhaps I'm wrong though.

Wow... stick up the ass much? You seem like the one with nothing in life. But whatever, I find it hard to take anything you say seriously :wink:

and to answer the question, I think Trance is just a fun character. Their is really no tight connection to the character.

Brett P
04-16-2008, 03:57 PM
None of them will be around in 20 years. If they are, it won't be in much capactiy, or it will be in some new "New mutants" book that features yet another group of angsty teen mutants and they'll be the antagonist.

Wow your irrational hatred of all these characters knows no bounds. How much of the New X-Men run did you even read? La Fea has your number.


Oh and Rockslide is the stupidest character ever.

Isn't that the point? He's hilarious. And he has awesome powers.


Cause she's had SOOO much face time. She's made out and escpaed limbo to have a few quick lines. I don't understand how people can connect so tightly to these background characters who really haven't DONE anything.


I guess they could be losers who've done NOTHING in life as well. That would give them a reason to connect with such empty shell characters. Perhaps I'm wrong though.

Why the hell does it bother you so much if people like a character who hasn't been fleshed out much? People like Trance for the same reasons anyone initially likes any character. They like her powers and her personality quirks. Any long-term New X-Men fan will tell you she's not an "empty shell" but then no-one's actually claiming this overwhelming "connection" to her that has seemingly angered you both to the point you've had to make a post about it...now that's something that I can't understand. They just like her. Seriously, get over it.

Pixie_Solanas
04-16-2008, 03:59 PM
I kinda liked that kid who was just inert gas in a teflon suit. "Dummy"?

Basilisk called him a "Smart Fart".

IronKing
04-16-2008, 04:01 PM
A few of them will still be around. Armor is still in Astonishing, and she's not even that well known. X-23 is here to stay in X-Force.

And I'm sure Surge, Hellion, and a few others will have their place.