Marvel Spotlight on Short Lived DC Comics of the 70s [Archive]

Red Oak Kid

04-13-2008, 09:15 AM

MDG

04-13-2008, 09:31 AM

Anyone remember buying Beowolf, Rima, Hercules, Kong(I think that was the title) and Claw. I think Claw had a pretty long run. Talk about a Conan Clone. Artwise at least.

Claw went 12 issues--pretty long compared to the others.

Beowulf: 6 issues

Rima: 7 issues (not a bad series, but at the time a joke with my friend 'cause it seemed every comic shop had at least a dozen copes if Rima #2 in their back-issue bins)

Hercules (Unbound): Also 12 issues, but good art.

Kong (the Untamed): 5 issues

Stalker (4 issues) was around the same time, I think.

Red Oak Kid

04-13-2008, 09:35 AM

Yeah, Stalker. Was that the one by Ditko? One of those titles had a Ditko cover. The GCD is down at the moment.

dan bailey

04-13-2008, 10:37 AM

Yeah, Stalker. Was that the one by Ditko? One of those titles had a Ditko cover. The GCD is down at the moment.

Not only Ditko but Wood as well. Sweet.

And when I think of Star Hunters (which I have to admit isn't, y'know, exactly an everyday occurrence), the artist who comes to mind isn't Rich Buckler but rather Don Newton.

Most -- maybe all -- of the short-lived DCs '70s titles seem to have been right in my wheelhouse, as it were, because I must've bought them all. Well, maybe not Kong ... I only remember seeing an issue just a few years ago.

benday-dot

04-13-2008, 11:35 AM

While looking for something in my stacks of comics, I ran across several titles that I rarely see mentioned here. So I thought I would jog some memories and see if there are any thoughts on these DC titles.

Kobra-I know this character was in a few other DC comics, but I wonder if he is still part of the DC universe.

Star Hunters-Gotta love the Rich Buckler art. Did these characters ever appear anywhere other than the 7 or so issues of it's own title?

Anyone remember buying Beowolf, Rima, Hercules, Kong(I think that was the title) and Claw. I think Claw had a pretty long run. Talk about a Conan Clone. Artwise at least.

There are a few other titles from this period that I am forgetting. Feel free to list any others you recall.

Nice listROK, reflecting that long gone diversity once to be had in the two mainstream universes of the Big Two.

I haven't read Claw or Beowolf, but of the others I have the full run of Stalker, Rima and Hercules, Kong I have all but the last issue.

Kong isn't that awesome, but if you like Alfredo Alcala art (and I do) then this is a very cheap series to pick up.

In fact Rima, Stalker and Herc all have excellent artistic efforts. My favourite is probably Rima, which actually manages to move the reader at times in its brief life. The Redondo art is lush and gorgeous. Stalker is quite good too, an above average swords and sorcery book by Paul Levitz, with art that looks, to me, more Wood trhan Ditko. But I won't complain about one master crowding out another. Hercules has got nice Wood art too (with Jose Luis Garcia Lopez), but my favourite issues are the later W. Simonson stories. The Atomic Knights actually show up in this run!

The only Star Hunter material I have are that rather good DC Super Stars issue with the phenomenal Don Newton and Bob Layton art Dan has mentioned, as well as a decent David Michelinie scripted and Mike Nasser/ Bob Layton drawn (I've always liked Mike Nasser... is he still active in the "game" ?) issue from the series itself.

Oh yeah... Kobra. I only have the first of the series, because it started off as a Kirby book. I don't know if any Kirby layouts are still around for issue #1, but I'd love to see them. I know the Kirby Collector had the fully story behind this book's development (the concept of the twin brothers - one good, one rotten - as well as most of the script itself was Kirby's) and it could be some pencil work was shown there. I'll have to track my copy down of that JKC down

Other short runs:

Richard Dragon. Kung Fu Fighter (also with Kirby work... really!)
Justice, Inc. (yeah Kirby as well)
Weird Worlds (not at all Kirby)
Ragman
Isis
Starfire

Never read any of these last three, but I know they are out there... along with Welcome Back Kotter's extraordinarily underrated run. ;-)

prince hal

04-13-2008, 11:58 AM

I probaly liked Hercules most of the titles mentioned, because of the art (Wood!) and later Simonson, but also because the stories were decent...and I loved the attempt to tie in the Atomic Knights.

Star Hunters wasn't bad, either, but ti was pretty tough not to be imitative of Star Wars in those days. Wasn't the lead guy Donovan Flint? He was as obvious an homage to Errol Flynn as Fandral the Dashing was, but it seemed to work, even thoug he had that "Let's Get Physical" workout headband flying!

Claw was drawn by Ernie Chua through most of his run, and I was never a fan of his. It really never could get out of the Conan rut. However, the last isssue or two had different art, which gave the story a whole other mood, as I recall. There was at least one Joe Kubert cover that brightened things up for a moment, too,

It's the art that really makes the difference when you're writng books that have to stay wothin certain genre borderlines. I'd have enjoyed any Conan-ripoff drawn by Kubert, for example.

I liked Ragman from that "era." (More of an eye-blink, I guess.)

Starfire was another title from that time; undistiguished in every way except for her absoutely goofy outfit, with one arm and its opposing leg exposed, U-G-L-Y! She aint got no alibi!

T GUy

04-13-2008, 12:18 PM

Other short runs:

Richard Dragon. Kung Fu Fighter (also with Kirby work... really!)
Justice, Inc. (yeah Kirby as well)
Weird Worlds (not at all Kirby)
Ragman
Isis
Starfire- benday dot

Talking of Ragman, let us not forget Blitzkreig, its Kubert/Kanigher stablemate. Shame we never got to see Sextet.

I hope no-one's getting excited about Richard Dragon and Justice, Inc. IIRR, it's Kirby pencils on the first issue of the Kung-Fu cash-in and the second to fourth issues of Justice, Inc. But it's like Barry Smith or Keith Giffen impersonating him.

Never read any of these last three, but I know they are out there... along with Welcome Back Kotter's extraordinarily underrated run. ;-)

Just in case its writer is lurking here... :smile:

benday-dot

04-13-2008, 12:39 PM

- benday dot
Just in case its writer is lurking here... :smile:

I hear ya TGUy... and no kidding, but I still have a few of those actually. I was... ahem... a rather big fan of that show back in the day. Not just the comics, but a complete collection of WBK trading cards are buried (I kid.. I know exactly where they are) among my belongings.

Red Oak Kid

04-13-2008, 12:48 PM

And when I think of Star Hunters (which I have to admit isn't, y'know, exactly an everyday occurrence), the artist who comes to mind isn't Rich Buckler but rather Don Newton.

LOL.

You remember the artist on Star Hunters your way and I'll remember it my way.:biggrin:

Paradox

04-13-2008, 12:58 PM

Ha, and it always makes me think of Bob Layton. IIRC, that's the one he kept bugging DC to let him pencil, and got the "no, you don't pencil, you're an inker" speech. :smile:

MWGallaher

04-13-2008, 02:02 PM

The 70's "short runs" at DC--and Marvel--are some of my favorite objects of collection. I think I've got samplings of nearly all of them, and full runs of many.
I reread HERCULES UNBOUND just last month; it wasn't as good as I remembered, but it had some excellent art and some genuinely surprising twists. In the latter issues, it purports to tell the origin of KAMANDI's "Great Disaster", but it didn't feel right to me, given that there were still so many intelligent humans in HU (and in the Atomic Knights series, to which HU was also tied).
I haven't read KONG in years, but I remember really liking that one, too. I respected its authenticity in not mixing dinosaurs and humans.
KOBRA was one I always tried to convince myself that I liked. I bought every issue off the stands but it always somehow disappointed me. It's a very unstable comic, with no consistent creative team or focus. And yes, he's still around in the DCU.
BEOWULF was a real anomoly. It always felt to me like a translation of some European comic--the kind I'd see advertised in the backs of the Warren magazines. That's probably mainly due to the Ricardo Villamonte artwork, which was, well, unamerican-looking.
Another favorite not mentioned yet: MAN-BAT. Behind the first of its only two covers (by Aparo!) we get a rare chance to see Steve Ditko draw Batman. The second has the (arguably) more appropriate Pablo Marcos drawing the return of one of DC's most-belittled villains, the Ten-Eyed Man, as well as a text page informing readers that the book was cancelled because the "monster craze" was dead!
And speaking of BLITZKRIEG, DC had another war comic "from the enemy's point of view" in preparation called PANZER! It was cancelled before publication, but I think two issues of this saw publication under the SGT. ROCK banner (possibly in annuals or specials).

JKCarrier

04-13-2008, 03:05 PM

They actually brought back Claw for a cross-company team-up with Red Sonja (http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/12/12091.phtml) not too long ago. It looks like both he and Beowulf are going to show up in an upcoming Wonder Woman story (http://dccomics.com/comics/?cm=9536).

Stalker appeared as the big villain in the "Justice Society Returns" miniseries (http://www.geocities.com/soho/study/4273/ms/m_ret_jsa.html) a few years ago.

Cherokee Jack

04-13-2008, 03:32 PM

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Kobra-I know this character was in a few other DC comics, but I wonder if he is still part of the DC universe.

Kobra was around for years, but at present, he's taking a dirt nap.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobra_(comics)

Didn't KOBRA have a different artist for each of it's (I think) seven issues? I remember Kirby, Nassar, Giffen, Marcos.

Cei-U!

04-13-2008, 04:40 PM

I've always liked Mike Nasser... is he still active in the "game" ?

Dunno if he still draws comics or not but he's a member of CBR under his current legal name, Michael Netzer.

Cei-U!

berk

04-13-2008, 05:04 PM

I read Beowulf, or as many as made their way to the newstands in my town back then. It was a little weird, I think in a good way, as far as I remember.

I probably would have read the Hercules Unbound if I'd seen it on the stands, but somehow I missed that one.

Stalker I missed back then too, but recently bought them on-line. I was a little disappointed, not in the story, which was at about the level I'd been expecting, but in the artwork. Not bad, but not up there with the better work of either Ditko or Wood, IMO. I'm sure I've seen them collaborate elsewhere to much better effect but can't recall where now.

Kong I'll have to check out for the Alcala art, as Benday-Dot said, since I am a fan of his artwork as well.

Outside of all the Kirby stuff, the series I liked from DC that was cut short in the 70s was Ditko's Shade the Changing Man.

Aaron King

04-13-2008, 05:11 PM

Kobra the character is dead, but Kobra the organization is still going strong. They're the main villains in the current (but soon cancelled?) Checkmate.

T GUy

04-13-2008, 05:25 PM

Berk re Stalker: ... not up there with the better work of either Ditko or Wood, IMO. I'm sure I've seen them collaborate elsewhere to much better effect but can't recall where now.
Atlas Comics' The Destructor is the collaboration that comes to mind. Personally, I don't like the Dtko-Wood teaming, but suspect I'm in a minority on that one.

dan bailey

04-13-2008, 05:36 PM

the series I liked from DC that was cut short in the 70s was Ditko's Shade the Changing Man.

Good call -- can't believe I neglected to bring up this one! Ditko at his most hallucinatory.

Perry Holley

04-13-2008, 06:23 PM

Kobra-I know this character was in a few other DC comics, but I wonder if he is still part of the DC universe.Kobra has actually shown up in several DC comics, such as Batman & the Outsiders, Checkmate, and Suicide Squad.

Red Oak Kid

04-13-2008, 06:24 PM

What about the Karate Kid title?

Where was the Kirby Richard Dragon story? I seem to remember a Kirby/Royer splash page of Dragon, but I can't find the issue listed on GCD.

Weren't most of these titles axed during the DC Implosion? Did the Implosion have something to do with the newsprint shortage or a recession(WIN buttons, anyone?) or was it a result of Warners buying DC comics?

MDG

04-13-2008, 06:44 PM

Two other notable short runs from this era: Tor and The Joker.

Reptisaurus!

04-13-2008, 06:58 PM

What was the deal with Tor? Was it just a reprint of older material?

And, since we're throwing names out there, I always kind of dug the mid-seventies Sandman.

benday-dot

04-13-2008, 06:59 PM

What about the Karate Kid title?

Where was the Kirby Richard Dragon story? I seem to remember a Kirby/Royer splash page of Dragon, but I can't find the issue listed on GCD.

It was the third issue ROK. As TGUy said, its not much to get excited about. Kirby talents probably were not best served penciliing a Master of Kung Fu clone. I'd like to know the story behind how he ended up on this rather anomalous effort. Still, its always good see a master excercise his chops on yet another genre. I think he's done 'em all.

Captain Jim

04-13-2008, 07:02 PM

They actually brought back Claw for a cross-company team-up with Red Sonja (http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/12/12091.phtml) not too long ago.

And shortly after that, there was a WildStorm mini-series by Chuck Dixon and Andy Smith, which was also collected in a trade.

Blackhawkk

04-13-2008, 11:36 PM

And don't forget Simon & Kirby reuniting for an all-new Sandman!

PREZ!

scratchie

04-14-2008, 07:09 AM

Star Hunters wasn't bad, either, but ti was pretty tough not to be imitative of Star Wars in those days. Wasn't the lead guy Donovan Flint? He was as obvious an homage to Errol Flynn as Fandral the Dashing was, but it seemed to work, even thoug he had that "Let's Get Physical" workout headband flying!Star Hunters -- especially their leader -- was also very strongly reminiscent of Chris Claremont's Starjammers, although their respective initial appearances are so close to simultaneous (in the fall of 1977) that it was probably a case of similar influences more than a conscious rip-off.

Kan-Man

04-14-2008, 12:46 PM

I had several of these titles mentioned. A few random thoughts...

I think Infinity, Inc. was based on the character The Avenger, which was created by Kenneth Robeson, better known as the creator of Doc Savage. Perhaps because Marvel had the rights to Doc, DC thought this was the next best thing?

I thought I read somewhere that the character Ragman was Jewish, which always intrigued me since there weren't many Jewish heroes in either the Marvel or DC universes (Ben Grimm and Colossal Boy being the ones that spring to mind at the moment).

I think DC put out Sherlock Holmes during this time as well.

Some of these might have started in DC's First Issue Special and I guess the most successful comic launched from that title was Warlord.

Perry Holley

04-14-2008, 01:14 PM

I think Infinity, Inc. was based on the character The AvengerJustice, Inc., actually, and yeah, it's based off the Avenger pulps.

Huh?

04-14-2008, 01:27 PM

I have a ton of these books you guys are talking about. My uncle gave me his collection when I was 10, and he did most of his collecting in the early to mid 70's.

I have multiple issues of:

Tor, Claw, Justice Inc., Beowulf, Stalker, Hercules Unbound etc.

What I want to know is: did a lot of these start in 1st issue special? I seem to remember a lot of those issues having weak characters with a couple hits like "Warlord."

Cei-U!

04-14-2008, 01:29 PM

Justice, Inc., actually, and yeah, it's based off the Avenger pulps.

It should be noted that "Lester Dent" was a pen name owned by Street and Smith. Kenneth Robeson wrote the majority of the Doc Savage pulps under that byline but it was a different "Lester" who scribed the Avenger series (though I don't have the writer's real name off hand).

Cei-U!
I summon the arcana!

Cei-U!

04-14-2008, 01:35 PM

What I want to know is: did a lot of these start in 1st issue special? I seem to remember a lot of those issues having weak characters with a couple hits like "Warlord."

None of the series mentioned started in 1st Issue Special. Of its 13 cover features, only Warlord and Return of the New Gods received their own titles (though the Creeper revival got a short-lived back-up slot in World's Finest).

Cei-U!
Still sad that "Lady Cop" never got her own book! :rolleyes:

Slam_Bradley

04-14-2008, 01:36 PM

Cei-U!

04-14-2008, 01:38 PM

I'm pretty sure Warlord was the only book to jump from 1st Issue Special in to a continuing series.

You owe me a Coke.

Cei-U!
I summon the schoolyard code of honor!

Slam_Bradley

04-14-2008, 01:41 PM

It should be noted that "Lester Dent" was a pen name owned by Street and Smith. Kenneth Robeson wrote the majority of the Doc Savage pulps under that byline but it was a different "Lester" who scribed the Avenger series (though I don't have the writer's real name off hand).

Cei-U!
I summon the arcana!

Actually you've got it backwards. Kenneth Robeson was the Stree & Smith house name. Lester Dent was the real-life person who wrote the vast majority of the Doc Savage novels.

Most of The Avenger novels were written by Paul Ernst.

Perry Holley

04-14-2008, 01:43 PM

It should be noted that "Lester Dent" was a pen name owned by Street and Smith. Kenneth Robeson wrote the majority of the Doc Savage pulps under that byline but it was a different "Lester" who scribed the Avenger series (though I don't have the writer's real name off hand).Umm, 'Kenneth Robenson' was actually the pen/house name for the Doc Savage books. Lester Dent was the real name of the guy who wrote most (not all) of the Doc books.

Also, while Dent didn't write the Avenger series, I believe that Dent and Walter Gibson (aka Maxwell Grant, author of the Shadow books) did co-create the character and the basic concept of that series.

Slam_Bradley

04-14-2008, 01:46 PM

You owe me a Coke.

Cei-U!
I summon the schoolyard code of honor!

Would you like a spot of JD or rum in that, Sir?

Perry Holley

04-14-2008, 01:46 PM

You owe me a Coke.And I owe Slam a coke, as well!

Slam_Bradley

04-14-2008, 01:49 PM

Umm, 'Kenneth Robenson' was actually the pen/house name for the Doc Savage books. Lester Dent was the real name of the guy who wrote most (not all) of the Doc books.

Also, while Dent didn't write the Avenger series, I believe that Dent and Walter Gibson (aka Maxwell Grant, author of the Shadow books) did co-create the character and the basic concept of that series.

Ha! Beat ya.

Perry, have you read The Chinatown Death Cloud Peril by Paul Malmont? Because if you haven't, you need to. Dent and Walter Gibson are the two main characters.

Kirk G

04-14-2008, 01:49 PM

Two other notable short runs from this era: Tor and The Joker.

How many issues of The Joker were there, and were they any good?
Did anyone here buy them?

Slam_Bradley

04-14-2008, 01:56 PM

How many issues of The Joker were there, and were they any good?
Did anyone here buy them?

Nine issues. I picked up a couple when they came out. I liked them at the time, but probably haven't read them in 25 + years. The problem with the book is that the Comic Code dictated that The Joker had to end up back in the looney bin, had to act in a "heroic" manner, etc. I think it had to be pretty hard to work with that character as a protagonist with those constraints. Nice art by Irv Novick though.

dan bailey

04-14-2008, 02:01 PM

Ha! Beat ya.

Perry, have you read The Chinatown Death Cloud Peril by Paul Malmont? Because if you haven't, you need to. Dent and Walter Gibson are the two main characters.

Started reading some months back (it's one of the few books I have the slightest interest in that's actually available via our pathetically underfunded local library system, which by the way also seems mysteriously unacquainted with the concept of "graphic novels") but got distracted & let it lie. (I seem to recall being thrown off by what I regarded as a severe mischaracterization of my lord & master, HP Lovecraft*.) Must get back to it someday.

*As opposed, of course, to my other lord & master, Philip K Dick, who I seriously doubt pops up in the novel

Slam_Bradley

04-14-2008, 02:10 PM

Started reading some months back (it's one of the few books I have the slightest interest in that's actually available via our pathetically underfunded local library system, which by the way also seems mysteriously unacquainted with the concept of "graphic novels") but got distracted & let it lie. (I seem to recall being thrown off by what I regarded as a severe mischaracterization of my lord & master, HP Lovecraft*.) Must get back to it someday.

*As opposed, of course, to my other lord & master, Philip K Dick, who I seriously doubt pops up in the novel

PKD does not show up, though a couple of different SF writers do.

HPL was dead during the novel...or at least most of it. It's hard to mischaracterize him as dead.

JKCarrier

04-14-2008, 02:41 PM

How many issues of The Joker were there, and were they any good?

They're pretty fun. Nothing earth-shattering, but clever plots and some nice art. #7, where some gizmo causes Joker and Lex Luthor to switch personalities, is my favorite.

Cei-U!

04-14-2008, 03:47 PM

Actually you've got it backwards. Kenneth Robeson was the Stree & Smith house name. Lester Dent was the real-life person who wrote the vast majority of the Doc Savage novels.

Most of The Avenger novels were written by Paul Ernst.

Arrgh! You (and Perry) are right and I am wrong. I hate it when that happens!

Cei-U!
Pleads distraction due to multiple toothaches!

Cei-U!

04-14-2008, 03:50 PM

Would you like a spot of JD or rum in that, Sir?

"No, thank you," replied the recovering alcoholic.

Cei-U!
Not that you coulda known!

dan bailey

04-14-2008, 05:04 PM

PKD does not show up, though a couple of different SF writers do.

Wouldn't think so, since at the time I recall the novel as taking place, he wouldn't have yet reached adolescence.

I do know that L Ron Hubbard is a fairly prominent character in the book. Makes me wonder if his compatriot, the scientist-cum-occultist Jack Parsons (who's in the TPB I'm enjoying the heck out of right now, Captain Gravity & the Power of the Vril, & who's very much implied in Vertigo's The Witching from about 6 years ago), might not show up later

HPL was dead during the novel...or at least most of it. It's hard to mischaracterize him as dead.

I beg to differ, you infernal blasphemer: "That is not dead which can eternal lie/And with strange aeons, even death may die."

Actually, if memory serves certain thoughts &/or memories atributed to HPL while he's on his deathbed struck me as beggaring belief, even given the licenses of fiction ... but again, around a year has passed (& maybe more than that) since I read what I read, so I could be totally off-base. At least the writer doesn't depict Lovecraft as a NY street urchin hanging around with Charles Fort, as was the case in the Dark Horse TPB of Fort, Prophet of the Unexplained that I read last week. (Not that there was anything wrong with that -- I realize it was intended as a tribute of sorts to Grandpa Theobald -- but it so contravenes actual fact as to border on meaningless.)

dan bailey

04-14-2008, 05:21 PM

Pleads distraction due to multiple toothaches!

I'll trade you the odd rash on my right leg for those toothaches.

OK ...maybe not.

FanboyStranger

04-14-2008, 06:51 PM

I thought I read somewhere that the character Ragman was Jewish, which always intrigued me since there weren't many Jewish heroes in either the Marvel or DC universes (Ben Grimm and Colossal Boy being the ones that spring to mind at the moment).

There's a story behind that: Ragman was not orginally Jewish, but a letter in one of the '70s issues noted that it was neat to see a Jewish character starring in a comic book, even if he did not have a traditionally Jewish name. Bob Kanigher responded that Rory Regan was Irish, not Jewish, and if he had wanted Ragman to be Jewish, he would have given him a Jewish name. Anyway, this letter had an impact on Robert Loren Fleming, so when he and Keith Giffen revamped the character in the very good 1991 Ragman miniseries, not only was Rory Regan of Jewish decent (his father changed his name from Jerzy Reganiewicz to the very Irish sounding Gerry Regan when he fled from the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943) but the title was steeped in elements of Jewish mysticism, including a Golem that shared powers with the suit of a rags and a mentoring Rabbi who may have been the legendary "Wandering Jew" (which is also one of the less popular theories concerning the true nature of the Phantom Stranger).

scratchie

04-14-2008, 07:35 PM

None of the series mentioned started in 1st Issue Special. Of its 13 cover features, only Warlord and Return of the New Gods received their own titles There was another series that launched Star Hunters. I think it was called DC Super Special? I had the issue out today to look at the month it was released but I can't remember the title!

Kan-Man

04-14-2008, 07:41 PM

There's a story behind that: Ragman was not orginally Jewish, but a letter in one of the '70s issues noted that it was neat to see a Jewish character starring in a comic book, even if he did not have a traditionally Jewish name. Bob Kanigher responded that Rory Regan was Irish, not Jewish, and if he had wanted Ragman to be Jewish, he would have given him a Jewish name. Anyway, this letter had an impact on Robert Loren Fleming, so when he and Keith Giffen revamped the character in the very good 1991 Ragman miniseries, not only was Rory Regan of Jewish decent (his father changed his name from Jerzy Reganiewicz to the very Irish sounding Gerry Regan when he fled from the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943) but the title was steeped in elements of Jewish mysticism, including a Golem that shared powers with the suit of a rags and a mentoring Rabbi who may have been the legendary "Wandering Jew" (which is also one of the less popular theories concerning the true nature of the Phantom Stranger).

That's pretty cool, I had never heard that story before. The Colossal Boy and Thing examples are funny too - it seems to me, Colossal Boy just showed up with a (rather enormous) yarmulke during a holiday issue and with Ben Grimm, Stan Lee just stated (somewhat out of the blue) that he was always Jewish.

Which of course was covered in Fantastic Four #88, "The Day Galactus Crashed Ben Grimm's Bar Mitzvah". Now, Reed Richards on the other hand? Goy all the way.

JKCarrier

04-14-2008, 07:45 PM

There was another series that launched Star Hunters. I think it was called DC Super Special? I had the issue out today to look at the month it was released but I can't remember the title!

DC Super Stars:

http://comics.org/details.lasso?id=31393

benday-dot

04-14-2008, 07:47 PM

Question: Was Prez any good? I've never read any.

And the 3 best issues of 1st Issue Special IMO:

Dr. Fate (#9)
Manhunter (#5), and

Atlas or Lady Cop... Atlas or Lady Cop? Hmmm...

Sorry, Cei-U, LC was classic, but I'm going for Dingbats of Danger Street (I guess I should apologize to Dan Bailey here too!)

MDG

04-14-2008, 07:55 PM

Question: Was Prez any good? I've never read any.
Good is hard to say. What I came to appresciate when I re-read it a few years ago is the feeling of "this is a comic book, we can do anything we want" that permeates it.

(Of course, if the same stories came from, say, Grant Morrison, they'd be called genius)

Perry Holley

04-15-2008, 05:55 AM

Ha! Beat ya.

Perry, have you read The Chinatown Death Cloud Peril by Paul Malmont? Because if you haven't, you need to. Dent and Walter Gibson are the two main characters.Yup. Picked it up on Greg Hatcher's recommendation. My wife and I both adored it.

T GUy

04-15-2008, 06:24 AM

Good is hard to say. What I came to appresciate when I re-read it a few years ago is the feeling of "this is a comic book, we can do anything we want" that permeates it.

(Of course, if the same stories came from, say, Grant Morrison, they'd be called genius)

Roger that all the way, MDG.

Prez is a comic which typifies what comics used to often be before their creators became obsessed with 'realism' for some unknown reason.

dan bailey

04-15-2008, 06:00 PM

I'll trade you the odd rash on my right leg

Speaking of which (since I know I'm such a subject of enrapt fascination for so many of you), as of this evening the doctor tells me it's from a case of shingles. Which apparently is found mostly in people 60 & older. Which is an age range I won't hit for another 11 1/2 years. *choke*

Oh, well, could've been worse ... I was starting to suspect I'd developed some sort of allergy to something that previously had no impact on me. Comic book ink, for example. The horror!

Red Oak Kid

04-16-2008, 07:16 AM

Question: Was Prez any good? I've never read any.
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For some reason I don't include the Joe Simon titles in with the other new DC titles of the period.

They're in a class by themselves.

FanboyStranger

04-16-2008, 10:48 AM

Speaking of which (since I know I'm such a subject of enrapt fascination for so many of you), as of this evening the doctor tells me it's from a case of shingles. Which apparently is found mostly in people 60 & older. Which is an age range I won't hit for another 11 1/2 years. *choke*

Oh, well, could've been worse ... I was starting to suspect I'd developed some sort of allergy to something that previously had no impact on me. Comic book ink, for example. The horror!

Off the thread a bit, but shingles have come back in a fairly big way lately, particularly among the non-elderly. I know three people in their late 20s-early 30s who have been diagnosed with shingles in the past few months. I'm not sure if there has been a cause attributed to this resurgence yet.