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TheAmazingSpidey
04-09-2008, 06:01 PM
If not, well, here's one! David has written some of the best comics and novels around.

*Appreciates*

Thank you, Peter, for your work!

gorthon616
04-09-2008, 06:35 PM
I think he is DEFINITELY underrated. I don't know why someone like him hasn't been given the same type of free reign over the universe that a Bendis, Millar, or Morrison typical do. (Likely because he's not "avant garde" enough but whatever). But he's great. IMO I rank him and Alan Moore as my two biggest influences (with Warren Ellis being sort of the crazy middle ground). I'd say that Alan is more like the architect of comic books, but Peter David is sort of that potted plant that turns a house into a home.

Billy Parker
04-10-2008, 03:37 AM
I first read Peter David on "Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" and it was great! (I'm a newer reader) The Mysterio arc was one of the best Spidey stories with all those Mysterios in the school.

I then tried She-Hulk and was freakin' blown away! It is the funnest comic I read, really funny and action-PACKED!

So I haven't read his older stuff. (except "Hulk The End" which rules) But I just love his new stuff!!! Write on PAD!!

ForeverTaskmaster
04-10-2008, 05:58 AM
Peter David's Hulk run was awesome for the biggest part.
Mr Fixit for life.
His first few X-Factor's weren't bad either. Neither were
his first few Aquamans.
Definitely one of the better writers around. Don't know his current work, however.

ChrisIII
04-10-2008, 07:00 AM
PAD's also done some good work for Star Trek, mostly TOS comics and TNG novels. He also has his own mini Trek franchise, New Frontier, which I think has a new comic coming out.


I'd like to see him do a Doctor Who story, apparentally he's a big fan, and his mix of action/drama/comedy is perfect for WHO.

Peter David
04-11-2008, 05:18 AM
They tried a "Peter David Appreciation Thread" on Comicon.com. It rapidly turned so toxic that I wound up leaving Comicon for good. Hopefully that won't happen here.

Thanks for the kind comments.

PAD

Flâneur
04-11-2008, 05:56 AM
Two words: Fallen Angel.

<3<3<3<3 PAD.

Ogrebear
04-11-2008, 06:27 AM
I first read Peter David's work with his Star Trek books - esp Imzadi, Q, Squared, I, Q, which stuck out from the regular Trek line as did the New Frontier books.

I remember getting the Future Imperfect comics but not linking that Peter David to the one who was writing Trek and the Babylon 5 books but after I while and clued in and grabed what I could of the Hulk run and Peter's Hulk novels.

I think Peter David's work over the years has simply got better, yeah occasionally there are things I dislike- I'm sure most fans are the same- but overall AAA+++

Keep up the fantatic work Peter!

P.S. Bring back Man-Wolf please!

matthewaos
04-11-2008, 09:30 AM
Two words: Fallen Angel.

<3<3<3<3 PAD.

What the guy said. Fallen Angel is one of the best books right now. I also love his X-Factor and I was so glad it wasn't canceled after MC. I buy his books just because I see his name, surely one of my top three writers.

Where the hell is DeMatteis?

ivesaidway2much
04-11-2008, 11:10 AM
They tried a "Peter David Appreciation Thread" on Comicon.com. It rapidly turned so toxic that I wound up leaving Comicon for good. Hopefully that won't happen here.

Thanks for the kind comments.

PADGood to know, I'm not the only one still pissed over the cliffhanger ending to the Sir Apropos of Nothing series.

b_sinning
04-11-2008, 11:32 AM
Peter's Hulk Books were pretty cool.

gorthon616
04-11-2008, 11:39 AM
They tried a "Peter David Appreciation Thread" on Comicon.com. It rapidly turned so toxic that I wound up leaving Comicon for good. Hopefully that won't happen here.

Thanks for the kind comments.

PAD

Thanks for the stories.

Don't pee in the (Dead)pool
04-11-2008, 04:06 PM
They tried a "Peter David Appreciation Thread" on Comicon.com. It rapidly turned so toxic that I wound up leaving Comicon for good. Hopefully that won't happen here.

Thanks for the kind comments.

PAD

Thank you for making me laugh so very often, Peter. However, if I may, just a quick question: is there any chance of you writing Deadpool, even if it's just for a guest appearance in X-Factor? Please? Pretty please?
Once again, thank you for your work in literature over the years.

Catlin
04-11-2008, 09:49 PM
They tried a "Peter David Appreciation Thread" on Comicon.com. It rapidly turned so toxic that I wound up leaving Comicon for good. Hopefully that won't happen here.

Thanks for the kind comments.

PAD

I was eight when Wolverine: Rahne of Terra came out, the first thing I ever read by you. Thank you for the last 17 years of joy.

Peter David
04-13-2008, 05:39 AM
Good to know, I'm not the only one still pissed over the cliffhanger ending to the Sir Apropos of Nothing series.

I should have some "Apropos" news to announce within the next few weeks.

PAD

Nick MB
04-13-2008, 05:47 AM
Just picked up the second X-Factor trade, greatly looking forward to reading it. Been following PAD's work with interest ever since Young Justice. That series, alongside Morrison's JLA, was one of the only periods where the DCU really caught my imagination.

Deathstroke
04-13-2008, 09:01 AM
If PAD's name is on it, I buy it.

What better thing can be said than that?

ivesaidway2much
04-13-2008, 09:28 PM
I should have some "Apropos" news to announce within the next few weeks.

PADOh My God... Apropos! How I've missed that incestuous, lame-legged, creepy, little bastard. If the news is anything other than "Get over it. He's been dead and gone for almost five years, loser", you've just made my day.

matthewaos
04-14-2008, 04:06 AM
I wonder what is David's view on Jones' run? And I am asking as a man who liked both writer's run (except for those last 7 issues that became Marvel Knights).

DDM
04-14-2008, 09:44 AM
I agree Peter David is an underrated writer for some time; he's seems to be given C & D level characters then makes them into A type characters over time. Good writers can do this.

I wished he stayed on X-Factor longer; his stay was too brief. I enjoyed the synergy he created with Jamie Madrox, Strong Guy, Havok, Polaris, Wolfsbane, Quicksilver & Valerie Cooper. I am working on buying the back issues of Peter David's original Incredible Hulk run.

matthewaos
04-14-2008, 01:44 PM
I agree Peter David is an underrated writer for some time; he's seems to be given C & D level characters then makes them into A type characters over time. Good writers can do this.

I wished he stayed on X-Factor longer; his stay was too brief. I enjoyed the synergy he created with Jamie Madrox, Strong Guy, Havok, Polaris, Wolfsbane, Quicksilver & Valerie Cooper. I am working on buying the back issues of Peter David's original Incredible Hulk run.

Uhm, WHAT? He is leaving X-Factor??? This is a disaster, worse than Huston leaving Moon Knight!!!

DDM
04-14-2008, 01:56 PM
Uhm, WHAT? He is leaving X-Factor??? This is a disaster, worse than Huston leaving Moon Knight!!!

No, not the current X-Factor. I'm talking about the new team after the original X-Factor team rejoined the X-Men in X-Men #1 (1991):

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97452433904.71.GIF

This version of X-Factor replaced Freedom Force. Peter David wrote the book from X-Factor #70-89.

matthewaos
04-14-2008, 11:16 PM
Man... I was so worried! I'm not sure if this book can keep being around without David.

ChrisIII
04-15-2008, 09:18 AM
I'm not sure what David's said about Jones's run, although he has retconned a bit of it; he was a little vocal about Jenkin's retcon of the Merged Hulk, though.

matthewaos
04-15-2008, 03:32 PM
I'm not familiar with Jenkins' run, except one random issue (the final issue I think). What did he do?

Greg Anderson
04-16-2008, 04:37 AM
Just want to say mega thanks to PAD for X-Factor. It's one of my absolute favorite books to read every month. I've actually recently dropped all my Marvel books except for X-Factor. I just couldn't part with it, the writing is too damn good and I just love all the characters and how they're written. Jaime and I are kindred spirits, we two. :wink: I'll be checking out the She-Hulk issues for the upcoming crossover, though. But once again, thanks for writing and keeping me interested in a fantastic book.

david r
04-16-2008, 07:44 AM
The greatest compliment I can give PAD is whenever someone says a character is boring, or there's nothing left to do with the character and all's been said with the character, I'm always reminded of Peter David's Incredible Hulk run. When PAD came on the book, Hulk was a tired retread of 1970s stuff, going over the same old ground, and there was serious talk of cancelling Incredible Hulk. There was "nothing more to do with the character."

Peter David arrived on the book and proved there was A LOT MORE you could do with the Hulk. If you just let your imagination run wild and are given creative license to take chances, many many more memorable stories can follow. And Peter David proved that time and again on his remarkable Incredible Hulk run. Peter took Bruce Banner and his inner demons to new heights and stories that should be legendary now. So whenever I hear fans saying character "X" is old or tired, I always think what a talented writer like Peter David could work wonders what that character.

The Punished
04-16-2008, 09:12 AM
Peter David is the talent I think that should be allowed carte blanche on any title he would desire to do. I miss his Hulk work everyday. I love that he came back to X-Factor and hopes he keeps doing it for as long as he has flame burning for the characters.

I love he has taken over She-Hulk and I anxiously await each issue! He is THE MAN!

DDM
04-16-2008, 05:32 PM
The greatest compliment I can give PAD is whenever someone says a character is boring, or there's nothing left to do with the character and all's been said with the character, I'm always reminded of Peter David's Incredible Hulk run. When PAD came on the book, Hulk was a tired retread of 1970s stuff, going over the same old ground, and there was serious talk of cancelling Incredible Hulk. There was "nothing more to do with the character."

Peter David arrived on the book and proved there was A LOT MORE you could do with the Hulk. If you just let your imagination run wild and are given creative license to take chances, many many more memorable stories can follow. And Peter David proved that time and again on his remarkable Incredible Hulk run. Peter took Bruce Banner and his inner demons to new heights and stories that should be legendary now. So whenever I hear fans saying character "X" is old or tired, I always think what a talented writer like Peter David could work wonders what that character.

Peter David did so much with the Hulk such as creating Mr. Fixit with the Grey Hulk in Las Vegas. The Savage Hulk still stayed in the background until Doc Sampson merged them into one personality, but Bruce seemed even more scary when he lost his temper. I was disappointed Marvel returned Hulk into the one-dimensional Savage Hulk pre-Peter David after PAD left the book.

mgs
04-16-2008, 05:57 PM
I feel David's style of writing is definitely unique. I like most of the stuff he writes but I can never keep track of what titles he does (as he jumps around a lot).

I don't know why, but people seem to appreciate his writing in waves. I think, not too long ago, people were complaining about him, but before that, they adored him, now we are back to appreciating him.

I think he has written consistently good comic books and all comic book fans should always be appreciative of that fact! :)

ivesaidway2much
04-17-2008, 07:48 AM
Peter David did so much with the Hulk such as creating Mr. Fixit with the Grey Hulk in Las Vegas. The Savage Hulk still stayed in the background until Doc Sampson merged them into one personality, but Bruce seemed even more scary when he lost his temper. I was disappointed Marvel returned Hulk into the one-dimensional Savage Hulk pre-Peter David after PAD left the book.Did you even read the post you quoted? There's nothing one-dimensional about the Savage Hulk. All it takes is a good writer (e.g Paul Benjamin on MA Hulk) and some imagination to make him interesting. Just like any other character.

DDM
04-17-2008, 01:59 PM
Did you even read the post you quoted? There's nothing one-dimensional about the Savage Hulk. All it takes is a good writer (e.g Paul Benjamin on MA Hulk) and some imagination to make him interesting. Just like any other character.

Peter David reintroduced the Grey Hulk & gave him the Mr. Fixit identity. The Green Hulk on came back when the merge of the three personalities came over several unrelated stories.

The pre-Peter David stories are not as good when David got rolling on several stories into Incredible Hulk.

Don't pee in the (Dead)pool
04-19-2008, 05:09 PM
Hi, folks! I've just read X-Factor #30 and, what can I say but... Wow!
Once again PAD delivers drama, humour, characterisation, action and development in ONE issue.
Peter, if you read this, I'm not sycophantic, honest.

passer-by
11-19-2008, 08:49 PM
I haven't read a lot of Peter David's work. Only X-Factor - in the 90's and the current series, Hulk The End (the HC with Future Imperfect) and House of M Hulk.

I'll still say that he is one of the best writers I have come across in the comics medium. He took a few third-rate characters and made one of the best current Marvel series and the best mutant series at the moment. And his depiction of Hulk is incredibly moving.

I intended to start reading his She-Hulk run (I have to wait for the TPBs where I live), and the next thing I read here is that it is cancelled. :eek: I'll still read it, but after another one of his titles.

I've only been reading praise of his Incredible Hulk run and that will be the next thing I will order from Amazon. That's the only way I can show my support.

Hopefully Marvel will hurry with the release of the remaining PAD Hulk Visionaries. There are more than 90 issues to go, so chop-chop, Marvel! :biggrin:

pariah-1972
11-19-2008, 09:14 PM
Peter David is one of my favorite writers ever nuff said.

LungerTony
11-19-2008, 10:09 PM
I wouldn't call him the best or anything, but he definitely a good writer. Anything with his name on it is a positive.

ZT4
11-20-2008, 01:20 AM
Despite the war raging within the "She-Hulk Cancelled" thread, I'd like to point out Peter David is a great writer for the most part, with a few niggles here and there. I recently reread his whole Spider-Man run and thought it sublime, he was doing things with the status quoe at the time that seemed to be paving in an unfulfilled new era for the character. Definatly a candidate for ASM's regular writer if we ever go back to that formula.

What I also respect is that he doesnt take criticism lying down and is very eager to show how passionate he is at his job and how much work he puts into his efforts to please certain fans. All writers should take that defensive stance, and many of them thankfully do. It keeps the respect level from reaching a comfort-zone that would prove otherwise unhealthy.

Congo Jack
11-20-2008, 07:13 AM
I enjoyed his work on WOLVERINE, one of the few writers who was effectively able to fuse humour into the grittiness of his solo title.

Bruce Wayne Jr.
11-20-2008, 08:46 AM
Mr. David is always consistent, always entertaining.

X-Factor is the only book I have left at Marvel, and I'm a huge fan of his Fallen Angel.

b4ustandsi
11-20-2008, 09:08 AM
ive enjoyed his hulk run :smile:

Peter David
11-20-2008, 09:12 AM
I'm a little uncomfortable saying "thanks" for praise. It always comes across as a little too "Elvis" for me. You know: "Thank you. Thank you very much. 'Preciate it." But I don't want people to think that I only respond to negative comments, so...thank you.

PAD

CMBMOOL
11-20-2008, 10:16 AM
I respect Peter David's work a lot. I mean he's the guy who made Spider-man and the Hulk better people when he's writing them.


He also knows how make use of the supporting characters in a title. :biggrin:

Toto
11-21-2008, 05:35 PM
I don't know his Hulk run, but became one of my favorite writers thanks to X-Factor.
Thank you for your entertaining and smart comics, love your work!

Maestro
11-22-2008, 02:40 AM
Thanks for writing Incredible Hulk #347 and #377. They were really cool and stand out as my favorite issues

Not sure about the ones in between... I should pick up the trades

Samy
11-22-2008, 03:08 AM
Peter David is my favorite "deep", "mature" writer. (That sounds pretentious.) What I mean by that is he dares to approach topics like religion, sexuality, race, politics or ethics, and write about them in an intelligent, well thought-out manner. Whereas other writers who write about these topics seem to either do it for shock value, or have a preaching one-sided perspective, I can usually trust Peter to approach things in a fair, even-handed manner and make me genuinely think about the issues. There are many writers who dare to tackle these thorny types of subject matter. Take Starlin, for example, and religion. He has no hesitation to say things about religion. But with him, it's very one-sided. Religion is bad, rah-rah. He has a stance and he preaches it. But with Peter, I would expect to see a story where both the pros and cons of religion are addressed, and we'd see both positive and negative examples of religious and non-religious people. (Supergirl was a particularly good book for this type of stuff.)

If I want to be told what to think, I go to Newsarama. If I want to be taught to think on my own, I go to Peter David.

I have a lot of other favorite writers. But most of them play on my subjective preferences. Geoff Johns revitalizes characters. Dan Slott fixes continuity. Chris Claremont makes characters sound right. But those are things that subjectively excite me. They're not inherent objective literary merits I suppose. From a purely objective literary merit standpoint, I think Peter David is the single best writer we have in the industry.

P.S. I still miss the Pantheon and wish they'd appear in X-Factor. :(

Libaax
11-22-2008, 07:10 AM
I dont have a long history with PAD but i like him alot for X-Factor. He is the reasons i picked She-Hulk.

I like for his ability to write superheroes in a mature way but also make them fun with interesting characters.


To other fans of his what quality other works has he done except his famous Hulk stories ? I would like to read more of him.

Peter David
11-22-2008, 10:17 AM
See, that's the problem with these "appreciation" threads where I'm concerned; they morph into flamefests.

The last time someone started an appreciation thread centered on me, it was on Comicon.com and took barely two days for it to become a full blown flame war. I walked away from Comicon and never looked back.

PAD

obii
11-22-2008, 01:05 PM
Thank you and I hope to read more stories in the future.

Don't pee in the (Dead)pool
11-22-2008, 05:18 PM
I dont have a long history with PAD but i like him alot for X-Factor. He is the reasons i picked She-Hulk.

I like for his ability to write superheroes in a mature way but also make them fun with interesting characters.


To other fans of his what quality other works has he done except his famous Hulk stories ? I would like to read more of him.

My personal fave (besides X-Factor...) is Peter's run on Spider-Man.
He's my favourite comics writer and I would so love to see his take on Deadpool... which is no insult to Daniel Way, his version of 'pool rocks!, I just feel that Peter would write an amazing Deadpool story.

cdarlage
11-22-2008, 05:21 PM
Peter David's Aquaman was definately good, he made Aquaman cool. I also started reading She-Hulk when he took over and I enjoyed that a lot as well. To bad it is being cancelled. And finally, his Battlestar Galactica book, "Sagittarius is Bleeding" was great IMO.
Thanks for the great stories.:smile:

Don't pee in the (Dead)pool
11-22-2008, 05:23 PM
See, that's the problem with these "appreciation" threads where I'm concerned; they morph into flamefests.

The last time someone started an appreciation thread centered on me, it was on Comicon.com and took barely two days for it to become a full blown flame war. I walked away from Comicon and never looked back.

PAD

Please don't walk away from here, Peter.
It's great that you take the time out of your schedule to talk with the fans.

pariah-1972
11-22-2008, 06:07 PM
See, that's the problem with these "appreciation" threads where I'm concerned; they morph into flamefests.

The last time someone started an appreciation thread centered on me, it was on Comicon.com and took barely two days for it to become a full blown flame war. I walked away from Comicon and never looked back.

PADWow i thought you were one of those "fan favorites":confused:

tasky
11-22-2008, 09:09 PM
I first read about Peter David's work during the middle of his 12 year run on Hulk, had to immediately acquire all the back issues! You're truely an amazing writer..Still remember that poignant scene you wrote well, Rick Jone's HIV infected best friend is bleeding out, and Rick is too afraid to save him by staunching the bleeding because he doesn't want the risk of getting infected... til the HULK comes to the rescue..but what would Rick have done if Hulk wasn't there, or anyone in real life would do ?

I love your work on She Hulk, especially the issue where Superskrull was ordered to kill his own daughter . The back and forth dialogue between Shehulk and Superskrull..." ...you'll be ALONE" was amazing

I'm glad that you showed up on this board :smile:
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Spiffy
11-22-2008, 09:10 PM
Despite the war raging within the "She-Hulk Cancelled" thread, I'd like to point out Peter David is a great writer for the most part, with a few niggles here and there. I recently reread his whole Spider-Man run and thought it sublime, he was doing things with the status quoe at the time that seemed to be paving in an unfulfilled new era for the character. Definatly a candidate for ASM's regular writer if we ever go back to that formula.

What I also respect is that he doesnt take criticism lying down and is very eager to show how passionate he is at his job and how much work he puts into his efforts to please certain fans. All writers should take that defensive stance, and many of them thankfully do. It keeps the respect level from reaching a comfort-zone that would prove otherwise unhealthy.

PAD is a great writer, who's more original than most (for example his Supergirl run was miles better than any other attempt since to go a completely different direction successfully), who appreciates and uses continuity without being NUTS about it, who writes great character dialogue (most comic book writers suck at this), who uses secondary and even tertiary characters well, and who has lots of other great things about him.

The flip side of an appreciation topic though is inevitably that trolls are drawn to it. And PAD CAN be a bit, er... "tetchy" when those inevitable trolls attack. I get your point ZT4 that there are admirable things about that, because if a man can't defend himself and his own work, what's the use? But usually these folks own stupidity should crucify them, and I've seen Peter, on this and a few other forums, give them more attention than they actually deserve. And then the whole topic melts down.

A troll melts when he's ignored--that's kind of their defining characteristic. That's not to say ANY writer should be criticism proof. I've railed at certain writers plenty of times. To me, I think most folks deserve a first reply. If they respond to that first reply with increasing hostility instead of intelligent debate, then forget about them. Just my opinion, of course, but I've observed these scuffles from the sidelines for a while.