Secret Invasion #1 *Spoilers*

[ShaggyB]

ok gang here we go, this is copied from Newsarama

If it should go in another thread or room please do move it for me mods.





ok im gonna run it down best as i can, i am at work lol

a skrull ship drops in the middle of the savage land. tony stark is with reed and pym and there disecting the electra skrull when tony gets a message about the skrull shipping landing. tony calls avengers tower to rally the troops but no one is around except for jarvis and spiderwoman. he tells spiderwoman that we need to rally the troops, and since no one is around she calls luke's cell phone. luke tells the team this is it we have to head to the savage land and they call in a favor from cloak, who transports them to avengers tower. once inside they knock out black widow and steal a quinn jet( not sure if thats whats threr still called) clint makes a funny line about widow being mad he knocked her out because they use to date and someone says who havent you dated lol the secret avengers are headed to the savage land with the mighty avengers not to far behind. when lukes team arrives they find the place in the savage land where they first arrived destroyed, wolverine tells the team we cant worry aboutthis now we have other business. The secret avengers reach the skrull ship and they are ready to get inside, till the mighty team arrives and tells secret that there under arrest and to stand down and that mighty will take care of this. all the whill all the top gov agencies are on a ship in outer space meeting to asess the situation. dum dum is on board the ship as well. cage tells theothers im opening this ship and tony tells him he cant . luke responds that tony stark would know he cant hurt him but since im not sure who you are i doubt you know. as luke is ripping the ship open jarvis sends a virus to tony's armor crippling tony and all his companies he's wired into. dugan blows up the ship with all the agencies and the shield hellacarrier is going down as well. all the prisoners in the raft are freed and start to kill the guards, marvel boy says its time to leave and does so. then at thunderbolts mountain captain marvel attacks and blows up the room housing osmond and the thunderbolts. this is where it gets fuzzy, cause reed was suppose to be with pym dissecting the body of the skrull when we see him at the ff buliding giving a tour with his glasses on. one of the people giving a tour is a skrull and he turns into sue storm and walks by johnny and the kids, ignoring them and heading for reeds lab( johnny says she is suppose to be in australia) susan implodes the whole ff bulding into a white ball with torch and the kids inside, taking them all the the negative zone. now back to the avengers who are seeing to tony, they are arguing with luke calling tony a skrull and thinking its a trick, they turn around and to there shock you see all the old avengers
cap
first appearance wolverine
old ms marvel
old luke cage
old beast
old wonderman
old iron man
mockingbird
jessica jones in costume
jean grey
sue storm
the old thor
old spidey
old white queen
hawkeye
scarlett witch

and there lines are is this it?? did we make it back to earth?? wolverine from the ship says "yeah i was just about to say that cuz....i know who i am but who are you guys suppose to be exactly " while looking at the modern day avengers. wow!! then it shows a bunch of skrull ships invading andback to the dissecting table with pym taking over reed and when a skrull does this they all say he loves you! the pym skrull tells reed that he even loves you after scrabbling poor reed.lol hope it makes sense.



There are a few theories floating arround involving misdirection and Skrulls everywhere.

[HeckBoy]

Well hot damn, the advance spoilers were true...

[ShaggyB]

yep even some of Marvelb0ys were true. Coming months will be telling on him....

[We R. Venom]

God, Sick ass movie, oh I mean comic. the art was beautiful and Bendis just knows what he is doing. I have no question. I'm just gonna read it again!

[Brian M.]

This was great. The double page reveal at towards the end will make this place crash so many times...but still, awesome issue, awesome art, great start. Gemme more Bendis.

Also...one thing I'm curious on, Jarvis is a Skrull, we know that...but that look on his face and Spider-Woman's in the beginning...no freaking way she's a Skrull, but still, they lingered on that for a while.

Also, great job spoiling Captain Marvel #5 Marvel.

I know those characters who crashed can't possibly be the actual characters though...I mean Wolverine? Captain America? 70's Spider-Man? No way they retcon Spidey's history and then retcon it AGAIN. Those characters have to be skrulls.

[Iron_Stark]

first of all Luke Cage is a f**king tool, who the hell does he think he is by telling Stark he can't hurt him? Does he not remember the two ass kickings he got from Tony during CW?

What a doring, bland, lame ass character, he's not Avengers material, can't wait until he's off the team, maybe then I'll start buying NA again.

second, good issue, kinda expected some to be Skrulls, didnt' expect others.

[ShaggyB]

Im just happy the leaked info wasnt fake. Mainly cause i liked what i heard and it would be weird to pick up the issue and it not be the case.

[frog]

I know those characters who crashed can't possibly be the actual characters though...I mean Wolverine? Captain America? 70's Spider-Man? No way they retcon Spidey's history and then retcon it AGAIN. Those characters have to be skrulls.

When I saw the cover with those characters escaping from the ship, I pegged them all for Skrulls sent to make everyone doubt whether or not the characters they are posing as are the real thing, and how long the Skrulls have been infiltrating the organizations.

It's a great way to make everyone that much more paranoid!

[Sanctus]

Great issue. Really looking forward to seeing what happens because like many people have said, all those people can't be Skrulls (though bendis did say that some Skrulls did not know they were Skrulls).

Luke is not a tool, but a great guy (though I would not mind him being a Skrull so we can annul his marriage and have him get with someone a little more interesting than Jessica, like Maya Lopez but Clint got her first so maybe Angela Del Toro or Scorpion).

[TheAmazingSpidey]

Simply awesome.

[drwho]

Okay, this issue was average at best. Especially when they pull the old Tony is out of control again in his armor and crashing helicarriers. Same old crud way too close to all the other crud. I mean the art was decent. I didn't really think they needed to show so many reveals right away. Plus this he loves you garbage is a dumb line no matter how religious these skrulls are. At least it gives the impression the Sue thing copy cat was pretty recent. Also seemed like they made all the action in the spinoff stories go much faster compared to what happened in the main story with the Avengers. I wonder where the last issue of Ms. Marvel fits in with this. The time line seems all screwy. Also there was some screwy dialog by someone in the quinjet saying what is this place. Everyone else knew about it but maybe not Ecko it just seems like a dumb speech bubble.

[BGRED37]

Does anyone have any theories WHEN the 70's superhero switch couldhave occurred? Around what events and time in Marvel history?

[hysang]

This is the first "Marvel Event" besides World War Hulk that I think I'm going to really get a kick out of. :D I just hope it ships on time.

I hope that ONE of the characters isn't a Skrull, because I wouldn't mind seeing his version come back.

Hint: he's blue and furry. ;)

Also, I didn't get the impression Tony was causing the system failures. The Skrull sleeper agents were. Tony was just the tip of the iceberg.

[Exo]

First issue sounds great. I'd thought that it would be (skrull)Reed who would knock Pym out, but either way the real Pym is yet again left out of a major marvel event.

[drwho]

This is the first "Marvel Event" besides World War Hulk that I think I'm going to really get a kick out of. :D I just hope it ships on time.

I hope that ONE of the characters isn't a Skrull, because I wouldn't mind seeing his version come back.

Hint: he's blue and furry. ;)

Also, I didn't get the impression Tony was causing the system failures. The Skrull sleeper agents were. Tony was just the tip of the iceberg.

Only problem with that is that turns the genius sage into a big moron. I mean I find it hard to beleive she wouldnt be able to tell that wasn't the real Beast.

[frog]

Only problem with that is that turns the genius sage into a big moron. I mean I find it hard to beleive she wouldnt be able to tell that wasn't the real Beast.

It would turn the Skrulls into morons as well. If you are going to try to secretly sneak an imposter onto a team, why would you change the appearance of who you are trying to impersonate?

[ShaggyB]

Does anyone have any theories WHEN the 70's superhero switch couldhave occurred? Around what events and time in Marvel history?

Dont jump the gun yet, just because a bunch of 70s characters show up, doesnt mean all of them arent skrulls. Perhaps 1 or 2 are real but id bet alot are skrulls or sleeper skrulls.

[Dagger]

I really enjoyed this issue! I can't wait for next months' installment! I hope we get a return to ape-man Beast myself. Also, I really miss the old Ms. Marvel costume. I was kinda hoping Ultra Girl would start wearing it. That would be awesome imo.

[bjtrdff]

You forgot one thing Banner..........I filled the balls with a funnel.

[Scipio72002]

So, what about Nightcrawler? I read the issue and he was not discussed that I could see, but I heard he was supposed to be revealed. Any help would be apprciated:D

[Swashbuckler]

First issue sounds great. I'd thought that it would be (skrull)Reed who would knock Pym out, but either way the real Pym is yet again left out of a major marvel event.

Actually, with Pym being replaced I wouldn't be suprised to see him as part of some calvary that escapes the clutches of the Skrulls and comes to rescue the remainer of the heroes on earth. Didn't Pym just get killed in Avengers:Initiative by that crazy MVP clone?

[ShaggyB]

You forgot one thing Banner..........I filled the balls with a funnel.

lol... But lisa, this is the most clever thing your father has ever done....

[OMGIMSOCRUNK]

Dont jump the gun yet, just because a bunch of 70s characters show up, doesnt mean all of them arent skrulls. Perhaps 1 or 2 are real but id bet alot are skrulls or sleeper skrulls.


I'd say so too. Here's a look at who was on the ship that crashed (SPOILERS):

cap - 0% chance he's the real deal. Brubaker has been very clear that the Cap that died at the end of Civil War was the genuine article.

first appearance wolverine - probably a skrull too. I seem to recall reading that there weren't any Skrulls on the New Avengers roster. Still, he's been replaced before and maybe there's a reason why our "Wolverine" can't smell the "new" Skrulls. Maybe a 5% chance.

old ms marvel - Seems like this one's probably fake too. Not only does her own book make it seem like she hasn't been replaced (multiple Carol's running around, at least one of them seems like the real deal), but I feel like Marvel has spent too much time over the last decade making her into an "A" lister just to retcon it. 2%

old luke cage - See Ms. Marvel. Too much development of his character since the beginning of NA to just be thrown out. Plus, he's one of Bendis' favorites. 0%

old beast - I guess this one could be the genuine article, but I'm skeptical. I'd say something in the neighborhood of 10% chance he's real?

old wonderman - this one could be interesting. Simon hasn't really gotten a lot of face time in MA, he hasn't been used that much since the 90's, and it seems like his powers wouldn't be THAT hard to replicate (or at least create a passable facimile thereof). If any of theseb "evacuees" is the real deal, I think it's probably him.

old iron man - 0% chance. Bendis has said as much and why have Skrullvis go to the trouble of disabling him if he's a Skrull?

mockingbird - 0% chance. She's in hell with Mephisto. Doubt he'd have any difficulty telling her soul from a Skrull's.

jessica jones in costume - Could be. Maybe that's why Luke and her have a Skrull baby. Maybe it's half Skrull... Maybe 15% chance she's real.

jean grey - God, I hope not. Let the poor woman rest in peace for a while. Plus, if she'd been replaced, what was with all the Phoenix/White Hot Room stuff at the end of Morrisson's run on New X-Men. Seemed genuine to me. 0%

sue storm - Don't really keep up with the FF, so I'm not sure. Frankly, the whole thing is probably just a Skrull tactic to further erode the heroes trust in each other.

the old thor - 0%. I have a hard time believing a Skrull is out in Oklahoma right now recreating Asgard. I have a hard enough time even believing an Odin force powered Thor could make something of that hellhole.

old spidey - 0%. I didn't read OMD and don't read BND, but, again, I think Mephisto could probably tell Peter from a Skrull. Also, again, I seem to remember hearing that there weren't any Skrulls on the NA.

old white queen - haven't followed the X-Men that much, but again, it just seems to me like too much time and energy went into redesigning her character to throw it all away.

hawkeye - I guess if I'm wrong and there is a Skrull on the NA, he'd be the most likely choice, but I don't buy that this one's real either. Maybe 10%?

scarlett witch - 0% chance. If the Skrulls were able to duplicate her powers during House of M, couldn't they just use them again to make Earth the way they want it to be?


Anyway, just my two cents.

[bjtrdff]

I don't know....Bendis' interview about 'how people would be mad because they've gotten attached to these characters since he started writing them' was pretty slanted towards Cage or Spider-Woman, who are basically the two main characters he did that with and elevated. That was my take on it anyway.

[ShaggyB]

So, what about Nightcrawler? I read the issue and he was not discussed that I could see, but I heard he was supposed to be revealed. Any help would be apprciated:D

please refrain from throwing up spoilers from future stories in this discussion of issue 1. (please go back and use the spoiler tags as i did on your post) You heard what many have heard from anonymous sources and Mravelb0y, until it is shown its not to be believed as 100% true. More will come as more issues come out. (also the power set of the skrulls is telling but not totally a dead give away that said spoiler is true)

[Oblivion87]

I agree with the assessments above, I wouldn't be if all does turned out to be skrulls.

[ShaggyB]

I'd say so too. Here's a look at who was on the ship that crashed (SPOILERS):

cap - 0% chance he's the real deal. Brubaker has been very clear that the Cap that died at the end of Civil War was the genuine article.

first appearance wolverine - probably a skrull too. I seem to recall reading that there weren't any Skrulls on the New Avengers roster. Still, he's been replaced before and maybe there's a reason why our "Wolverine" can't smell the "new" Skrulls. Maybe a 5% chance.

old ms marvel - Seems like this one's probably fake too. Not only does her own book make it seem like she hasn't been replaced (multiple Carol's running around, at least one of them seems like the real deal), but I feel like Marvel has spent too much time over the last decade making her into an "A" lister just to retcon it. 2%

old luke cage - See Ms. Marvel. Too much development of his character since the beginning of NA to just be thrown out. Plus, he's one of Bendis' favorites. 0%

old beast - I guess this one could be the genuine article, but I'm skeptical. I'd say something in the neighborhood of 10% chance he's real?

old wonderman - this one could be interesting. Simon hasn't really gotten a lot of face time in MA, he hasn't been used that much since the 90's, and it seems like his powers wouldn't be THAT hard to replicate (or at least create a passable facimile thereof). If any of theseb "evacuees" is the real deal, I think it's probably him.

old iron man - 0% chance. Bendis has said as much and why have Skrullvis go to the trouble of disabling him if he's a Skrull?

mockingbird - 0% chance. She's in hell with Mephisto. Doubt he'd have any difficulty telling her soul from a Skrull's.

jessica jones in costume - Could be. Maybe that's why Luke and her have a Skrull baby. Maybe it's half Skrull... Maybe 15% chance she's real.

jean grey - God, I hope not. Let the poor woman rest in peace for a while. Plus, if she'd been replaced, what was with all the Phoenix/White Hot Room stuff at the end of Morrisson's run on New X-Men. Seemed genuine to me. 0%

sue storm - Don't really keep up with the FF, so I'm not sure. Frankly, the whole thing is probably just a Skrull tactic to further erode the heroes trust in each other.

the old thor - 0%. I have a hard time believing a Skrull is out in Oklahoma right now recreating Asgard. I have a hard enough time even believing an Odin force powered Thor could make something of that hellhole.

old spidey - 0%. I didn't read OMD and don't read BND, but, again, I think Mephisto could probably tell Peter from a Skrull. Also, again, I seem to remember hearing that there weren't any Skrulls on the NA.

old white queen - haven't followed the X-Men that much, but again, it just seems to me like too much time and energy went into redesigning her character to throw it all away.

hawkeye - I guess if I'm wrong and there is a Skrull on the NA, he'd be the most likely choice, but I don't buy that this one's real either. Maybe 10%?

scarlett witch - 0% chance. If the Skrulls were able to duplicate her powers during House of M, couldn't they just use them again to make Earth the way they want it to be?


Anyway, just my two cents.

I like it but i disagree about the NA not having a skrull on its team.The only presidency for this was Stranges spell to reveal those that wished to do them harm. If any are sleeper agents as the skrull in Captain Marvels book indicates exists, they wouldnt know they were out to harm each other yet and the spell would have passed them by and that is assumen you buy into Stranges spell working considering his issues lately (or was he a Skrull and covered for the others on the team.)

Ive heard a few spoilers for that but ill not display them here. Just the fact that anyone could be one, likewise any of the 70s could be fake or real and ill add that the ending of NA with Echo leaves it open that she could be and that whole fight with a skrull was to trick wolvie. It also leaves it open that a skrull is already on her team and gets to her.

I like this so far.

[BGRED37]

I'd say so too. Here's a look at who was on the ship that crashed (SPOILERS):

old wonderman - this one could be interesting. Simon hasn't really gotten a lot of face time in MA, he hasn't been used that much since the 90's, and it seems like his powers wouldn't be THAT hard to replicate (or at least create a passable facimile thereof). If any of theseb "evacuees" is the real deal, I think it's probably him.

mockingbird - 0% chance. She's in hell with Mephisto. Doubt he'd have any difficulty telling her soul from a Skrull's.

jessica jones in costume - Could be. Maybe that's why Luke and her have a Skrull baby. Maybe it's half Skrull... Maybe 15% chance she's real.

hawkeye - I guess if I'm wrong and there is a Skrull on the NA, he'd be the most likely choice, but I don't buy that this one's real either. Maybe 10%?



Anyway, just my two cents.

I disagree with Wonder Man. SW brought him back from the dead. I don't think she'd be able to pluck a WM from the dead. I mean maybe he's one in MA now. But I don't think his replacement dates back to the 70's era.

Mockingbird? I think she was so out of the spotlight for so long that I can see Marvel wiggling her story around to fit their needs.

Jessica Jones. I feel like she's the real deal here. I don't know why, but that baby's a Skrull and I think she's the reason why. Sad because Alias is sorta completely invalidated and I know how much people loved that book even though I never got the chance to read.

Hawkeye--Another one that was touched by SW. I think there's too much with Wanda's power I would hope woudln't be touched as far the Skrulls are concerned. It already is conviluted as is. I don't think Wanda would just be bringing Skrulls back as replacements.

The rest I really feel like couldn't feasbly be replaced given their involvement and interactions with specific events. I understand a Skrull wouldn't know they were a Skrull, but there's been many instances where they've been tested/challenged/violated/powers gone out of control/changed/been given capability that I feel a Skrull couldn't be without being exposed indefinitely.

[XPac]

I sort of wonder how those 70's heroes will be changing the sides.

Since there's a duplicate Cage and Spidey in addition to a duplicate Tony, I'm guessing that the non-70's versions will be in agreement that the ones on the ship are the skrulls. I'll be interesting to see if all their teamates agree... or those without duplicates end up believing the 70's version and end up hunting down the ones that do.

That's one way to get Cage and Tony on the same side I suppose.

[XPac]

I like it but i disagree about the NA not having a skrull on its team.The only presidency for this was Stranges spell to reveal those that wished to do them harm. If any are sleeper agents as the skrull in Captain Marvels book indicates exists, they wouldnt know they were out to harm each other yet and the spell would have passed them by and that is assumen you buy into Stranges spell working considering his issues lately (or was he a Skrull and covered for the others on the team.)

Ive heard a few spoilers for that but ill not display them here. Just the fact that anyone could be one, likewise any of the 70s could be fake or real and ill add that the ending of NA with Echo leaves it open that she could be and that whole fight with a skrull was to trick wolvie. It also leaves it open that a skrull is already on her team and gets to her.

I like this so far.

The Secret Invasion trailer already revealed that their attempted to replace Echo was a failure. So assuming the trailer can be trusted, I'm assuming Echo isn't a skrull.

The fact that they would try to replace Echo could indicate there there aren't any skrulls on the NA... though it's not impossible to assume they would want more than one on the team I suppose.

[ShaggyB]

Jessica Jones. I feel like she's the real deal here. I don't know why, but that baby's a Skrull and I think she's the reason why. Sad because Alias is sorta completely invalidated and I know how much people loved that book even though I never got the chance to read.


Why would she leave the NA team then. You have to consider that the skrulls want to inflitrate the teams. If jarvis is already a skrull as shown in this book, why would another skrull leave a team which might not feature one Skrull.

So if she is a Skrull who else is on the New Avengers team? Otherwise, She'd stay.

[ShaggyB]

The Secret Invasion trailer already revealed that their attempted to replace Echo was a failure. So assuming the trailer can be trusted, I'm assuming Echo isn't a skrull.

The fact that they would try to replace Echo could indicate there there aren't any skrulls on the NA... though it's not impossible to assume they would want more than one on the team I suppose.

really, hadnt seen that.Read above theory on why Jessica isnt a Skrull and "that 70s skrull" has to be.

[worstblogever]

Also, great job spoiling Captain Marvel #5 Marvel.


Actually did they?

Is Captain Marvel a Skrull? Is he being misled to attack because he thinks he's a Skrull sleeper agent? Or...

has he just figured out that whoever's running the Thunderbolts, or one of the team is a Skrull?

That may be the red herring in the whole issue. Wait for #5 to pass judgement. But if you're right... yeah. That'd be lame.

[CMBMOOL]

This is the first "Marvel Event" besides World War Hulk that I think I'm going to really get a kick out of. :D I just hope it ships on time.



I liked World War Hulk too, but I'm letting Bendis just tell his story and if it's good, then maybe I consider buying up the TPB. :p

[XPac]

Why would she leave the NA team then. You have to consider that the skrulls want to inflitrate the teams. If jarvis is already a skrull as shown in this book, why would another skrull leave a team which might not feature one Skrull.

So if she is a Skrull who else is on the New Avengers team? Otherwise, She'd stay.

Assuming for a second she was a skrull, perhaps she left because she thought the Hood and his gang were going to kill them.

I honestly don't think Jessica is a skrull either... just playing devil's advocate.

[ShaggyB]

Actually did they?

Is Captain Marvel a Skrull? Is he being misled to attack because he thinks he's a Skrull sleeper agent? Or...

has he just figured out that whoever's running the Thunderbolts, or one of the team is a Skrull?

That may be the red herring in the whole issue. Wait for #5 to pass judgement. But if you're right... yeah. That'd be lame.

or

is Captain Marvel not even the one pictured here? remember there are more than one Invisible Woman and Mrs Marvel due to Skrully impostors

[Josef F.]

I think that BOTH cage and Jessica are Skrull
But neither of them know it.
Oh that'd be another example of hilarious Skrull Ineptitude

I also miss the tiara.
and It could have some Iron fist repurcussions. And more Iron fist is Always good.

[ShaggyB]

Assuming for a second she was a skrull, perhaps she left because she thought the Hood and his gang were going to kill them.

I honestly don't think Jessica is a skrull either... just playing devil's advocate.

Nah id figure if you are a Skrull sent to infiltrate a team and send info back from that team that its pretty much a if you are caught you die but stay with your prey. Basically she'd be a hero to the skrulls and go down with the ship. (if she survived shed report they were all dead and be re-assigned.)

[Swashbuckler]

Wonderman is an obvious choice too be the real deal in my opinion. When did he quit being made of Ioinic energy? Is he still? I remember when Wanda first brought him back he was an energy being for the most part, now he seems back to plain old Wonder Man.

I also thin BOTH Luke and Jessica Jones may be Skrulls, it would me there story extremely sad. The two of them were drawn together but the real reason why was internal programming. Tragic. Their baby could then hang out with the X-Men's Messiah Baby and be all wierd and out of place.

And then there's the White Queen. God I'd love if she was a Skrull. She isn't, but I wish she was. I'm suprised a retro Storm didn't get off that ship. She has got to be a Skrull.

Also, why didn't Jarvis's eyes turn green like everyone elses?

[worstblogever]

I think the best way to take #1 of Secret Invasion would be, "OH S#&@, IT JUST HIT THE FAN!"

I mean, think about the chaos the Skrull Invasion just left them to deal with in one issue...


*Jarvis the Skrull within Stark Tower, wreaking havoc.
* S.W.O.R.D.'s installation left adrift in orbit, with its few agents (like Agent Brand) left with but ten minutes of air.
* Either a Skrull Captain Marvel attacking the Thunderbolts, or Captain Marvel trying to fish out a Skrull Thunderbolt.
* Reed Richards is temporarily in a world of hurt after being shot in the face at close range.
* The Baxter building had a Negative Zone implosion occur in it, possibly trapping the Human Torch, Valeria and Franklin Richards in the Negative Zone, or at least the rubble of the Baxter Building.
* Tony Stark having a crippling series of seizures.
* The New Avengers and Mighty Avengers facing off with possible replacement Skrull sleepers of themselves, or their real counterparts in the Savage Land, and far away from civilization.
* Every Stark Enterprises factory, and base is infected with a computer virus, and useless.
*The Helicarrier looks to be crashing into the middle of New York City.
*Breakouts of every incarcerated superhuman (villain or hero) at the Raft and the Cube.
* A Skrull fleet approaching the Earth, and in a hurry.



They fit all this into SI #1. NUMBER ONE. I mean, there's still seven issues of action left, everybody. Get your seats to the upright position, but keep in mind, you'll only be using the edge of them, most likely.

9/10.

[Animalia]

The Issue was soooo good it made me pee my pants!

[timomcshade]

I have not read a single spoiler before this book came out so this is all my theory from reading #1 and some other events.

Yeah I think it will be interesting to see which of the 70's characters are Skrulls and which current characters are. I like the whole sleeper agent idea but I also vaguely remember someone, Bendis I think, saying that you can tell some of the Skrulls by the way they act. It's not in character for them. If this true then I gotta say I think current Spidey and current Iron Man are "sleeper" Skrulls. That would explain a lot like Stark's actions since CW AND Spidey's stupid decision in OMD.

Also I think the still missing Nick Fury may be a Skrull and he knows it and he has been pulling strings. Maybe he is the supreme leader of the Skrulls on Earth amd he knows who they all are. What better way to get one of your "sleepers" into your position to start events in motion than by going underground.

As for Skrullvis I think he knew he was a Skrull but is unaware that IM is one...if my theory is true that is.

So to date we know the following people are or were Skrulls:

*****spoiler*****

Elektra
Jarvis
Hamk Pym
Sue Richards(someone impersonating her)
Blackbolt
Dum Dum Dugan
Captain Marvel(maybe)
*****spoiler*****

Just my 2 cents.

[Brian M.]

I agree on the who from that ship is actually the real deal.

I highly doubt Thor, Captain America, Jean Grey, Spider-Man, Iron-Man are Skrulls.

Wolverine's been done.

The rest...I could actually see being real.

[Animalia]

I agree on the who from that ship is actually the real deal.

I highly doubt Thor, Captain America, Jean Grey, Spider-Man, Iron-Man are Skrulls.

Wolverine's been done.

The rest...I could actually see being real.

Jean is obviously a skrull. Because the real Jean is dead.

[Monty_Cristo]

Bendis seriously needs a ghost writer. his dialogue makes me want to punch someone in the throat? "in the throat?" "in the throat." "seriously." "seriously." "in the throat." "....." "undetectable." "?"

[Bingo!]

Also, great job spoiling Captain Marvel #5 Marvel.


Since this is a spoiler thread, do we still need spoiler tags?

Just in case...
We don't yet know why Captain Marvel is visiting the Thunderbolts. Could be an attack, could be misdirection by the writers. I'm still looking forward to CM #5. I see CM as story of a resurrected Kree attempting to reclaim his heroic identity. How will he react to information stating his identity is completely different? The loneliness of the title come through the artwork so gently.

Was there any doubt that Mar-vell might not have been a Skrull?

If you were reading the Captain Marvel title, you should already know the answer.

[worstblogever]

Since this is a spoiler thread, do we still need spoiler tags?

Just in case...
We don't yet know why Captain Marvel is visiting the Thunderbolts. Could be an attack, could be misdirection by the writers. I'm still looking forward to CM #5. I see CM as story of a resurrected Kree attempting to reclaim his heroic identity. How will he react to information stating his identity is completely different? The loneliness of the title come through the artwork so gently.

Was there any doubt that Mar-vell might not have been a Skrull?

If you were reading the Captain Marvel title, you should already know the answer.

Glad to see we're thinking alike. (see my first post in this thread.) ;)

[frog]

I can't really see the White Queen or Beast being Skrulls because there has been so much character development that would be undone.

[Bingo!]

Glad to see we're thinking alike. (see my first post in this thread.) ;)

The Captain Marvel title has been so rewarding. I don't believe SI#1 would give away their series end.

The way Captain Marvel has been going I bet Mar-vell is a Skrull. The Captain Marvel persona he received was so strong-willed, that that aspect of him will persist and remain. Fun stuff. :D

[timomcshade]

I highly doubt Captain America


Yeah I agree. Please correct me if I am wrong but if you know you are a skrull, like the ones revealed in Issue #1. your eyes will supposedly turn green. It seems that if you are a sleeper Skrull, aka Elektra, once you are killed you revert to your Skrull form as we saw with Elektra. If you go by that logic that CAP is Definitely NOT a Skrull as when Steve Rogers dies he did not change shape. If those are characters from the 70's then that Cap has to be Steve Rogers amd we know he wasn't a Skrull.

You know, earlier I said I thougt IM was a sleeper Skrull but I think I could be missing something. I still think he is but maybe HE knows he is or else why would he know that there are more Skrulls among them based solely on Elektra? If that is the case then reverse my earlier ****spoiler****Iron Man/Jarvis****spoiler**** theory.

[Brian M.]

I think #1 disproves IM as a Skrull. Why would Jarvis/Skrull attack the Stark system w/ a virus if Tony Stark himself was a Skrull? Isn't the whole point of the virus to disable all of Stark's toys? If they already had Stark converted than there would be no need for the virus, they would have control of his systems and could use them.

[Jackob]

Oh yea, I know she ain't a skrull.

ya jean cant be a skrull because the baby is jean:D

[Brian M.]

ya jean cant be a skrull because the baby is jean:D

You do charish your life don't you?

[Random Remarks]

Apologies if this has been allready been asked/answered:

Was Ms Marvel with the Mighty Avengers?

The impression I get from interviews is that she is left in New York but can someone confirm if this is the case

[Don Quixote]

I'm going to predict that it's the real Mockingbird, and Bendis just wanted to bring her back. The others, I think will be mostly Skrulls. Too many characters there that Bendis doesn't really have free licence to mess with too much, in my opinion. Perhaps Beast or Wonder Man could be the real deal, too.

Despite all of the hype about Skrulls, I just don't think Marvel has the bottle to wipe out years of character continuity and say "that book you've been reading for years, with Cap/Iron Man/Wolverine? Forget it all, it w]asn't really him. If any major characters are Skrulls, they've surely only been replaced very recently.

Besides that, it seems like it's going to be an interesting storyline. It still has the potential to be either very good or very bad. And if it does bring the main Marvel-verse into closer contact with the cosmic stories, then that can only be a good thing.

[scouse mouse]

We don't get our comics till tomorrow in the UK, but from what Ive read in here, all of Mr Anonymous's spoilers have been correct! Which means that its highly likely that the other two big Skrull reveal spoilers are true as well. Namely that Spider-Woman and Night Crawler have also been replaced. If the first one is proven true than I will have a lot of respect for Bendis and that really anybody could be replaced.

[worstblogever]

I'm going to predict that it's the real Mockingbird, and Bendis just wanted to bring her back. The others, I think will be mostly Skrulls. Too many characters there that Bendis doesn't really have free licence to mess with too much, in my opinion. Perhaps Beast or Wonder Man could be the real deal, too.

Despite all of the hype about Skrulls, I just don't think Marvel has the bottle to wipe out years of character continuity and say "that book you've been reading for years, with Cap/Iron Man/Wolverine? Forget it all, it w]asn't really him. If any major characters are Skrulls, they've surely only been replaced very recently.

Besides that, it seems like it's going to be an interesting storyline. It still has the potential to be either very good or very bad. And if it does bring the main Marvel-verse into closer contact with the cosmic stories, then that can only be a good thing.

Well... There's been issues where Mockingbird's soul has been shown in Hell with Mephisto. And it wasn't a Skrull soul.

[Jack Zodiac]

It had its moments. For about the first fifteen pages, I was just waiting for somebody to go Skrull. Figured for Pym and Dugan, and I'm waiting for the Maria Hill reveal, but the scene between Jarvis and Spider-Woman, it was unusual. At first I thought he was going to attack her, but after she made that call, it's pretty clear, they're both Skrulls. And I really like how everybody was just completely duped and blindsided by all of this. Jessica, obviously a Skrull, infiltrating HYRDA and SHIELD, sewing more Skrull seeds, turncoating after the Elektra reveal, knocking Stark back with the big reveal, and then bam! Random Skrull ship crashes to Earth, everyone looks, and then a whole effin' fleet of 'em show up. Earth's Mightiest, but not Earth's Brightest.

Also, Yu's art was a whole lot better than usual, though I like his rough, sketchy style from before, just not for superheroes. It was a lot cleaner here. Still, though, forty pages, four dollas and I still don't feel like enough happened. I think I'm gonna sit the rest out and wait for the trade.

[Don Quixote]

We don't get our comics till tomorrow in the UK, but from what Ive read in here, all of Mr Anonymous's spoilers have been correct! Which means that its highly likely that the other two big Skrull reveal spoilers are true as well. Namely that Spider-Woman and Night Crawler have also been replaced. If the first one is proven true than I will have a lot of respect for Bendis and that really anybody could be replaced.

If Spider-Woman has been replaced, then I think the most likely time would have been just before Civil War. I may have missed something, but I don't know why Jessica Drew was seemingly drunk in a motel when S.H.I.E.L.D sent in the Fury LMD to trap her. Why wasn't she with the other Avengers?

Though maybe this is just hope on my part, as I enjoyed her character so much in the NA issues up to Civil War.

As to Mockingbird's soul with Mephisto, I don't think that would stop Bendis bringing her back in this way. Hey, if living characters don't know they're Skrulls, perhaps it's just that her soul doesn't know it's a Skrull, either

[Camron Amaya]

Maybe some of the heroes from the ship are real. Maybe the ones that have been replaced by Skrulls....

[sodarobber]

Well I'm sold, looks like I'll keep buying it then.

[Jack Zodiac]

If anyone from that page is not a Skrull, I'd say Mockingbird, only because almost everyone else has had some decent roles in recent books or have their own monthlies. No way in hell are Wolverine, Captain America, Ms. Marvel, Spider-Man, et. all Skrulls. Maybe Beast and maybe Wonder Man, but not very likely.

EDIT: And maybe, maybe, Jessica Jones, only because Bendis has been the one to handle her primarily over the years, and he'd probably be more willing to !@#$ up his own character over a bunch of other peoples'.

[mushroom2703]

Excellent excellent issue. Some very cool stuff. I like the cyclon-ish "he loves you" as the skrulls prepare to pwn. I don't get this perception that if say, Jessica Jons is revealed to be a skrull and the one from the ship is real, that it will totally #### her character up, or throw alias out the window, or make it less relevent. Bendis has explained to us some will be sleeper skrul and don't know they are skrull; that means the character we read about and followed still did all that stuff and felt the things they felt. It just adds a twist that somewhere under there they are a skrull.Some will turn I expect, some will remain heroes. But all that stuff still happened and made for great characters. It would just mean there would also be a character they could do a "what if X person was absence for the last 30 years (real time)? What would their reaction be; what would they do?". We've had superb alternate reality characters before, there's no reason why this couldn't be the same but with a skrully twist. I'm in for the whole thing now.

[NMoline]

He Who Walks Behind The Rows.

[Camron Amaya]

If anyone from that page is not a Skrull, I'd say Mockingbird, only because almost everyone else has had some decent roles in recent books or have their own monthlies. No way in hell are Wolverine, Captain America, Ms. Marvel, Spider-Man, et. all Skrulls. Maybe Beast and maybe Wonder Man, but not very likely.

EDIT: And maybe, maybe, Jessica Jones, only because Bendis has been the one to handle her primarily over the years, and he'd probably be more willing to !@#$ up his own character over a bunch of other peoples'.

That Thor couldn't be a Skrull either. Him ESPECIALY cuz of his mystical magical aspects.

Can't tell me a Skrull went through Ragnarok and Odin never knew and all the major stuff that's happend since 70's. Walt Simonson's run, the Reigning.

I can't wait to see Sentry beat this Skrull Thor so Sentry fans can go SEE SEE! SENTRY IS BETTER THEN THOR!!!

[InsaneGame]

This was a good read.

And the scene of teh "heroes" I need to quote Admiral Ackbar.

"IT"S A TRAP!"

[Toboe]

This was a great read, despite Bendis sometimes annoying dialogue.

I'm glad he's using Agent Brand, but I have no idea how she's going to get back to Earth now.

Dragging the Avengers into the Savage Land and then blocking their communications and Iron Man's armor was a well thought plan on the skrulls part.

Spider-Woman is totally a skrull. She tricked Luke Cage's Avengers into going there, tht weird looks with Jarvis, her sudden powers upgrade on Mighty Avengers... And they totally spoiled Pym on the solicits Inititative cover.

As for the heroes arriving at the end, the only I can see being the real deal are maybe Beast and Wonder Man. Jessica Jones might be a possiblity because of her not breastfeeding Danielle, but there might be lots of reasons for that and Danielle's skrully eyes might be a result of skrull milk. It would be neat if Mockingbird came back, I don't really like Echo and Clint together.

One thing kept bothering me. Where was the Wasp?

[GMan12]

Hmm, cool issue, though I couldn't help but think of Lady Stix's followers in Countdown To Adventure, everytime someone said "He loves you."

[Corey Dalton]

I've been drifting away from Marvel and DC for quite a while now, buying just a couple of Marvel comics and maybe one DC comic every month. I was really hoping that Secret Invasion would suck me back into the Marvel fold, but, man, did I find this to be a boring first issue. Everything seemed so obvious and uneventful. Bleh. I won't be following along. Maybe Morrison can pull me back into DC with Final Crisis?

[worstblogever]

Everything seemed so obvious and uneventful. Bleh. I won't be following along.

Fine by me. If you found this boring, I'd love to hear what you'd think exciting was. This was bedlam for the landscape of the current Marvel U.

[Red Lotus]

Love this issue. I'm pretty much hooked now. I'm glad that Bendis played up Spider-man smart side by having him figure out what was going on with Stark.


I like it but i disagree about the NA not having a skrull on its team.The only presidency for this was Stranges spell to reveal those that wished to do them harm. If any are sleeper agents as the skrull in Captain Marvels book indicates exists, they wouldnt know they were out to harm each other yet and the spell would have passed them by and that is assumen you buy into Stranges spell working considering his issues lately (or was he a Skrull and covered for the others on the team.)

Ive heard a few spoilers for that but ill not display them here. Just the fact that anyone could be one, likewise any of the 70s could be fake or real and ill add that the ending of NA with Echo leaves it open that she could be and that whole fight with a skrull was to trick wolvie. It also leaves it open that a skrull is already on her team and gets to her.

I like this so far.

Yeah they are going to have a Skrull on their team. It just depends on how long they have been on the team is it one from NA 1 or some one who came to the team after that.

[Camron Amaya]

Fine by me. If you found this boring, I'd love to hear what you'd think exciting was. This was bedlam for the landscape of the current Marvel U.

Yea, seriosly. How was all of this completly preidctable?

[unkiedev]

It was great, but the parallels between this and Battlestar Galactica are starting to bother me. For example, taken from the Season 1 B.G. opening:

They Evolved.

They Look...And Feel...Human.

Some are programmed to think they are Human.

There are many copies.

And they have a Plan.

Maybe I've just got B.G. on the brain, as the season 4 opener is this Friday.

[trickster]

Never mind the haters: this one is ... wow. You have to see it. Damn what a cliffhanger.

[mushroom2703]

It was great, but the parallels between this and Battlestar Galactica are starting to bother me. For example, taken from the Season 1 B.G. opening:

They Evolved.

They Look...And Feel...Human.

Some are programmed to think they are Human.

There are many copies.

And they have a Plan.

Maybe I've just got B.G. on the brain, as the season 4 opener is this Friday.


Why does it bother you though? Sure there's parallels but even if it is somewhere Bendis drew inspiration from, its implimented on a completely different set of people, under completely different circumstances, in a totally different universe. Bendis could frankly have just taken the cylon idea and it would still be good, because this is all abou tthe marvel heroes, and their reactions, and how they're going to cope with this. The skrull invasion is just superb idea that ccreates these events and lets us see how the heroes cope.

On the record anyway, i don't think he ripped off BSG anyway, this goes all the way back to tales of the body-snatchers - its a common idea in sci-fi; anyone saw terminator before? The only thing that i think he may have seen on BSG and taken is the sleeper ideal thats very like the new cylons, not necessarily knowning they are cylons. Otherwise i just think its a sci-fi idea thats been used all over the palce before; this jsut works so well as its in the MU.

Oh, and no BSG spoilers please XD i only jsut finished watching season 1!

[CyberCoyote]

Never mind the haters: this one is ... wow. You have to see it. Damn what a cliffhanger.

I hope every single one of the 70's characters is the real deal. Won't happen, but at least I could prove Pete never did that. Some of 'em would be painful to give up on.. maybe some of them will fall but the Skrulposters will resume their roles in their honor or something.

[stormy2k8]

SPOILER:



I think the Iron Man on the ship and the Iron Man being attacked by the virus may BOTH be the real deal. How?

What if the Ship Iron Man/70's Iron Man armor actually has the real Jim Rhodes inside?!?

[stingerman]

SPOILER:



I think the Iron Man on the ship and the Iron Man being attacked by the virus may BOTH be the real deal. How?

What if the Ship Iron Man/70's Iron Man armor actually has the real Jim Rhodes inside?!?

That would be pretty sweet, good thinking.

http://www.bringbackwendell.com/pskrull.png

[Clea]

Loved this! What a terrific opening to this event. Bendis promised that he'd open the series with a bang and he certainly did. :cool:

[unkiedev]

Oh, and no BSG spoilers please XD i only jsut finished watching season 1!First off, I would NEVER do that. I take my B.G. seriously.

-You have a point that a good story is a good story, no matter what its influences are...but keep watching B.G. It tells this story so well I wonder what Room Bendis thinks he'll find in it.

[stormy2k8]

That would be pretty sweet, good thinking.

http://www.bringbackwendell.com/pskrull.png

Thanks--wouldn't put something this sneaky past Bendis. . .

[Chino]

Awesome!

I really hope that some of the crashed heroes are actually the real ones and have no clue of the invasion. That would be so fun. I cant wait to see an all out brawl, how will they tell who's who :eek:

[Brian M.]

I gotta comment on the art...it's sooooooooo much better. Laura Martin can make anything look pretty. Mark Morales's inks are perfect for Yu's art, it cleans up nicely.

[PamGrierOverdrive]

The parallels between this and BSG also bug me a little bit as well, and I think it's primarily the fact that this aspect of the Skrulls' evolution is something that is suddenly coming out of left field. But, despite the fact that I was going to avoid this event, it does sound damn good, and I can't wait to read it either.

[Sanctus]

Love the story. Love the art. Hope that Cage is a Skrull although he is one of my favorite Characters in the MU.

[Corey Dalton]

Fine by me. If you found this boring, I'd love to hear what you'd think exciting was. This was bedlam for the landscape of the current Marvel U.

I'm glad that its fine by you.

[bjtrdff]

I like how now that BSG has caught on, people want to throw it into every single internet conversation about anything. Like seriously people, that in itself is based on a show that is based on about 40 movies. I'm a big fan too, but come on...

[Toboe]

Doesn't anyone think it's odd that the Wasp was not with the Avengers?

[PamGrierOverdrive]

I like how the minute anybody says anything remotely critical of something, fanboys need to get pissy. Didn't BSG catch on, like what, 3 years ago now?

[mushroom2703]

I like how now that BSG has caught on, people want to throw it into every single internet conversation about anything. Like seriously people, that in itself is based on a show that is based on about 40 movies. I'm a big fan too, but come on...

God forbid we discuss two things we enjoy, and some of the similarities (and not so similarities) between the two. Grow up man. Its not like we brought up lord of the rings in relation to it. Someone brought up a relevent comparison, and those who know about the show responsed, nothing more.

Doesn't anyone think it's odd that the Wasp was not with the Avengers?


I actually completely missed that, but I haven't got to picking up the first mighty trade yet, so I forgot sh was on the team haha. A conenction here with Pym maybe? If anyone was going to twig he wasn't himself it'd be here. Maybe they felt she needed replacing :D

[jackolover]

First issue sounds great. I'd thought that it would be (skrull)Reed who would knock Pym out, but either way the real Pym is yet again left out of a major marvel event.

To me it doesn't explain how Pym got killed in AI but is alive in SI.

[jackolover]

Dont jump the gun yet, just because a bunch of 70s characters show up, doesnt mean all of them arent skrulls. Perhaps 1 or 2 are real but id bet alot are skrulls or sleeper skrulls.

Why do people keep saying some of the 70s returnees are not Skrulls? Why aren't they all Skrulls?

[worstblogever]

To me it doesn't explain how Pym got killed in AI but is alive in SI.

Because on the last page he's revealed not to be Hank Pym, but a Skrull? Kind of an easy explanation. They replaced Hank just after he's killed/incapacitated by KIA at Camp Hammond. The "Crusader" switches them out, or reports to Skrull command and tells them to send a "Hank Pym Skrull" to replace him since he was neutralized by another target.

[Animalia]

I know this is highly unlikely, but if the Scarlet Witch that emerged from the ship is the real one.....I will be very pleased :D

[stillanerd]

So, both Marvel_b0y and SCWAHP'S!!! "Mr. Anonymous" were right, huh? And considering how possible future Skrulls were Nightcrawler, Spider-Woman, and even Nick Fury not to mention nearly all the "70s Avengers" as I'll call them on that Skrull ship (think about it, not only does it sow doubt and suspicion into the ranks of the Mighty and New Avengers teams, but while they're being distracted and pointing fingers at each other, the Skrull's are already starting to take over Earth) well, draw your own conclusions.

Also, does anyone realize that this is the second time Hank Pym has been impersonated by a Skrull with a span of two years? First it was Hulkling (who is half-Skrull) in Civil War, and then it's this issue? Then, again, what makes it even more ironic is that Hulkling could have been impersonating a Skrull who was impersonating someone else.

[Animalia]

Doesn't anyone think it's odd that the Wasp was not with the Avengers?

GREAT OBSERVATION! I didn't notice that and just checked the issue and realized she wasn't there. I smell a skrull, woulden't you agree?

[Toboe]

Also, does anyone realize that this is the second time Hank Pym has been impersonated by a Skrull with a span of two years? First it was Hulkling (who is half-Skrull) in Civil War, and then it's this issue? Then, again, what makes it even more ironic is that Hulkling could have been impersonating a Skrull who was impersonating someone else.

Maybe the skrulls replaced him during Civil War, while Hulkling was taking his place?

[Monty_Cristo]

Because on the last page he's revealed not to be Hank Pym, but a Skrull? Kind of an easy explanation. They replaced Hank just after he's killed/incapacitated by KIA at Camp Hammond. The "Crusader" switches them out, or reports to Skrull command and tells them to send a "Hank Pym Skrull" to replace him since he was neutralized by another target.

Crusader's thought bubbles make this scenario unlikely. plus, he's busy trying to find his severed hand. could be that Pym has been a skrull since Tales to Astonish.

SPOILER:



I think the Iron Man on the ship and the Iron Man being attacked by the virus may BOTH be the real deal. How?

What if the Ship Iron Man/70's Iron Man armor actually has the real Jim Rhodes inside?!?

good thinking. that makes another pill-popper a skrull.

[protogarrett]

The whole purpose of this is to simplify Wolverine's background and bring back Jean Grey. =P

[Dr. Chaos]

Hopefully, they will milk that skrull Pym for all he's worth, and not just have him replaced months ago or just a few years ago.

Retcon the **** out of Yellowjacket, and I mean that literally.

My current crazy SI conspiracy theory: Marvel Boy (the kree) is the "He".

He's not right in the head, I'm telling you, and it would be so deliciously ironic to see him leading the skrulls to their salvation.

[Monty_Cristo]

I've been drifting away from Marvel and DC for quite a while now, buying just a couple of Marvel comics and maybe one DC comic every month. I was really hoping that Secret Invasion would suck me back into the Marvel fold, but, man, did I find this to be a boring first issue. Everything seemed so obvious and uneventful. Bleh. I won't be following along. Maybe Morrison can pull me back into DC with Final Crisis?

you should watch Battlestar Galactica and just come back to Marvel after Secret Invasion is over.

If anyone from that page is not a Skrull, I'd say Mockingbird, only because almost everyone else has had some decent roles in recent books or have their own monthlies. No way in hell are Wolverine, Captain America, Ms. Marvel, Spider-Man, et. all Skrulls. Maybe Beast and maybe Wonder Man, but not very likely.

EDIT: And maybe, maybe, Jessica Jones, only because Bendis has been the one to handle her primarily over the years, and he'd probably be more willing to !@#$ up his own character over a bunch of other peoples'.

hah! tell that to Scott Lang!

[PamGrierOverdrive]

Theres

There's

like 20 other people that didn't use spoilers and your

you're

on like the seventh page of the posts. If you haven't realized people are talking about the issue openly by now, you should think again ass.

again, ass.

[Animalia]

There's



you're



again, ass.

^_^ Thank You!

[frog]

There's



you're



again, ass.

It doesn't matter that the grammar is incorrect. The point is still perfectly valid. If the fact that Spoilers is in the thread title doesn't alert you to the possibility spoilers will be in the thread you need to work on your reading comprehension.

[Animalia]

It doesn't matter that the grammar is incorrect. The point is still perfectly valid. If the fact that Spoilers is in the thread title doesn't alert you to the possibility spoilers will be in the thread you need to work on your reading comprehension.

My Point exactly Frog, thanks. Now back to the skrull issue, I liked how Agent Brand was in it alot. I've missed her since Astonishing X-Men and I hope we see more of her.

[frog]

My Point exactly Frog, thanks. Now back to the skrull issue, I liked how Agent Brand was in it alot. I've missed her since Astonishing X-Men and I hope we see more of her.

Yes, I like her too. I'd like to see her become a regular player in the Marvel Universe.

[jackolover]

You know, earlier I said I thougt IM was a sleeper Skrull but I think I could be missing something. I still think he is but maybe HE knows he is or else why would he know that there are more Skrulls among them based solely on Elektra? If that is the case then reverse my earlier ****spoiler****Iron Man/Jarvis****spoiler**** theory.

Why do people think Iron Man is a Skrull, when Skrull Jarvis fried his circuits? It doesn't make sense.

[Optic Rage!]

I loved every panel of this.

I was actually buzzing with pure...buzz when i was reading it.

That has not happend in a long long time.

[jackolover]

One thing kept bothering me. Where was the Wasp?

I don't like giving Jan credit, since I disliked her portrayal in Civil War, but Jan might smell a rat, and went pint size to spy on them.

[Dr. Chaos]

And on another note, Drew won alot of points back with me after helping Luke and The Avengers stay ahead of Stark and his goons.

I'm almost hoping she isn't a skrull now.

[_Jayme_]

I loved how in the beginning Stark was just all "I know this...", "I'm right no matter what!"

I loved seeing Agent Brand for once. Usually she just annoys me, but I guess not seeing her has made me miss her...:confused:

[Monty_Cristo]

And on another note, Drew won alot of points back with me after helping Luke and The Avengers stay ahead of Stark and his goons.

she led them into a trap. and the new avengers were there mere seconds before the mighty avengers showed up.

I don't like giving Jan credit, since I disliked her portrayal in Civil War, but Jan might smell a rat, and went pint size to spy on them.

if so, i hope she beats the hell out of skrull-Pym.

[Toboe]

And on another note, Drew won alot of points back with me after helping Luke and The Avengers stay ahead of Stark and his goons.

I'm almost hoping she isn't a skrull now.

I believe she is indeed a skrull, and that was a trick to get all of the Avengers in the Savage Land.

[Dr. Chaos]

she led them into a trap. and the new avengers were there mere seconds before the mighty avengers showed up.
They knew the MA would be there, she was just trying to help them get there first, this is a no brainer, she could have left them in the dark but she didn't.

I don't think pissing off and slowing down Stark really helps her or the MA out.

Of course, if she's a skrull, it takes on a completely different context but if it's her, no, she didn't purposely lead them to a trap, she lead them to the same thing Tony was gunning for and they did get to it before him.

[InsaneGame]

Might contain spoilers and well I dont know how to do spoiler tags.

I'm not sure if this should be posted here or not, But with the talk about how hulking impersonated Pym in Civil War didn’t Stark or Reed say he was completely undetectable?

This led me to thinking isn’t Fury working with the young avengers? And maybe he found away to detect them.

[stingerman]

Might contain spoilers and well I dont know how to do spoiler tags.

I'm not sure if this should be posted here or not, But with the talk about how hulking impersonated Pym in Civil War didn’t Stark or Reed say he was completely undetectable?

This led me to thinking isn’t Fury working with the young avengers? And maybe he found away to detect them.


Just highlight the text and choose underneath the Big Black A (colors)- LemonChiffon for the color. It will look like something like this: [removethesewordsCOLOR="LemonChiffon"]spoiler here[removethesewords/COLOR]

[Scipio72002]

I personally cannot wait until they actually explain each person, when it happened and how. I want to see if Elektra is still around, and how long ago she was replaced.

[Jack Zodiac]

and I mean that literally.[/B]

You don't want Yellowjacket to have ever taken a dump, ever? :confused:

hah! tell that to Scott Lang!

Or Jack Hart. :p

[Dr. Chaos]

About Wasp being MIA, thats definitely alarming..

Kind of strange, in the middle of all this, Tony didn't seem to notice or mention how one of his veteran Avengers was nowhere around.

[Monty_Cristo]

You don't want Yellowjacket to have ever taken a dump, ever? :confused:

i'd believe it. he seems sort of constipated.

[Dr. Chaos]

And about Pym's "death" in AI, don't buy it.

He used his shrinking powers to escape a massive explosion right when he was in the very middle of it in AI#2, sub atomic level or some crap like that, I believe he did the same recently to save his own ass from KIA.

Whether the skrulls realized this or not, they might have taken advantage of it anyway.

Who knows, he could be dead though, we can only hope.

[Wally_West]

Just got off work and read this issue. Holy bejeebus...I have major wood.:o

First impression, this was an excellent start. Can't wait till I find out if my theories are right or not.

[Monty_Cristo]

And about Pym's "death" in AI, don't buy it.

He used his shrinking powers to escape a massive explosion right when he was in the very middle of it in AI#2,

assuming that he actually survived that and wasn't replaced with a skrull at that point. his suicide offered the best opportunity to replace him.

[earth3luthor]

double post, oops

[earth3luthor]

Looking at NA #1 - 6, I would say the Wolverine that suddenly appears out of nowhere in the Savage Land to join the team could be a Skrull. I wonder if Skrullverine has been hanging out with the NA at the same time that the real Wolvie has been hanging out with the X-Men and his own book.

I don't read Wolverine books too much. Does he mention being a member of the NA in any of his books or the X-Men titles?

[Jack Zodiac]

Just got off work and read this issue. Holy bejeebus...I have major wood.:o

Yeah, I get like that around Mr. Fantastic, too.

[CaptainCanada]

Looking at NA #1 - 6, I would say the Wolverine that suddenly appears out of nowhere in the Savage Land to join the team could be a Skrull. I wonder if Skrullverine has been hanging out with the NA at the same time that the real Wolvie has been hanging out with the X-Men and his own book.

I don't read Wolverine books too much. Does he mention being a member of the NA in any of his books or the X-Men titles?
Yes; House of M, among many, many others.

There's no way whatsoever that a Skrull Wolverine could run around with the Avengers for years and the real Wolverine wouldn't notice.

[IronStarks]

ugh so awsome, definitly better then the last few events, so much happeing that i had to reread it twice to take everything in!

[longshot3]

Looking at NA #1 - 6, I would say the Wolverine that suddenly appears out of nowhere in the Savage Land to join the team could be a Skrull. I wonder if Skrullverine has been hanging out with the NA at the same time that the real Wolvie has been hanging out with the X-Men and his own book.

I don't read Wolverine books too much. Does he mention being a member of the NA in any of his books or the X-Men titles?


I thought the same thing, about him just happening to be in the savage land in that NA arc. I just don't believe it because Skrull-Wolverine has been done (not real proof though). As far as mentionioning being a member of the NA and X-Men, the only place I remember this being addressed was House of M #1, of course I don't read every single book.

What happened at the Baxter Building was bat-sh!t insane

[Dr. Chaos]

assuming that he actually survived that and wasn't replaced with a skrull at that point. his suicide offered the best opportunity to replace him.
Good point.

[bjtrdff]

So, anyone still think Marvel boy was a marvel viral marketing campaign?

[XPac]

Looking at NA #1 - 6, I would say the Wolverine that suddenly appears out of nowhere in the Savage Land to join the team could be a Skrull. I wonder if Skrullverine has been hanging out with the NA at the same time that the real Wolvie has been hanging out with the X-Men and his own book.

I don't read Wolverine books too much. Does he mention being a member of the NA in any of his books or the X-Men titles?

It's been mentioned in a few places.

As mentioned elsewhere, during House of M the X-Men and Avengers come together. Xavier mentions that Wolverine told Xavier about it when the Illuminati met during New Avengers.

We may be dealing with multiple Logans (as he's all over the place especially these days), but I think the real Wolverine had to have joined the team. There's no way the real one wouldn't eventually find out that there was another Wolverine on the NA (or vice versa) for this long.

[SnakeEater]

i was rereading New avengers issue one because at the end of this book they were hyping breakout and saying to reread it.
well i do think now more then ever that Spiderwoman IS A SKRULL. i saw this because as she is speaking to foggy nelson, luke cage and daredevil she says "dont worry youre surrounded by 3 super humans" or something to which daredevil says he isnt daredevil.
now they were looking for the sentry so technically isnt he a "fourth" hero? if so doesnt that strike anyone as odd. This is what i dont liek about bendis, HE IS TOO GOOD!!!!
and maybe thats why spiderwomans own title hasnt come out yet, because she is a green mean dog of a woman.

[TotalWorldDomination]

Might contain spoilers and well I dont know how to do spoiler tags.

just put the word spoil in tags and then do a backslash tag at the end.

[*spoil][/spoil*] just take out the stars, and you're set.

assuming that he actually survived that and wasn't replaced with a skrull at that point. his suicide offered the best opportunity to replace him.

I think that the key to replacing people was vacations. Jarvis took a vacation after Dissembled and came back a skrull. Hank and Jan went off to europe after dissembled and came back skrulls. Jessica Jones went on vacation to Canada during CW and came back with a skrull baby (at the very least). Hawkeye went looking for scarlet witch, they both were on holiday and... well that last one is a guess. but I'd bet on it.

With all this evidence only one thing is clearly infiltrated. The Walt Disney Company. They've already found the perfect place to store everyone in the small world ride. FEAR DISNEY WORLD PEOPLE! IT'S ALL A SKRULL PLOT!

[TotalWorldDomination]

So, anyone still think Marvel boy was a marvel viral marketing campaign?

Yes.

Mr. Anonymous was not, however. that stupid jerk was 100% right.

[Thursaiz]

It will be interesting to see what villains are Skrulls, and if they come together to fight for the greater good. Until Doom or Thor just decide that the Skrulls have been on earth long enough and stops them all.

[Jackob]

It will be interesting to see what villains are Skrulls, and if they come together to fight for the greater good. Until Doom or Thor just decide that the Skrulls have been on earth long enough and stops them all.

i bet that most of the escaped villans from the raft are skrulls, i think that that was implide.

[Monty_Cristo]

Armadillo's a skrull

[SnakeEater]

It will be interesting to see what villains are Skrulls, and if they come together to fight for the greater good. Until Doom or Thor just decide that the Skrulls have been on earth long enough and stops them all.

hmm now that you mention it, i reread issue two just now and i just recalled the controversy behind one thing - when jigsaw broke spidyes arm.
now remember the villians are all doped up, and jigsaw was always a non super power - just mafiaso. that seems HIGHLY ODD/IRREGULAR that a non super power mafia guy is on a super powered prison and breaking spideys arm. then he never mentions it in the Hood storyline? seems fishy

[TheAmazingSpidey]

Man. You know the world sucks when you can't go on vacation without getting snatched by some Skrulls as part of their plot to take over the world. :(

"I got replaced by some Skrulls and all I got was this stupid T-shirt...and an anal probing."

[joemagnum611]

Why would she leave the NA team then. You have to consider that the skrulls want to inflitrate the teams. If jarvis is already a skrull as shown in this book, why would another skrull leave a team which might not feature one Skrull.

So if she is a Skrull who else is on the New Avengers team? Otherwise, She'd stay.

She would leave cause not only do they want to infiltrate the teams but they want to create mistrust and doubt. Cage already didn't trust his team and if his wife left him for the other side he would end up doubting himself also. If he's not confident then how can his team function properly.

[XPac]

hmm now that you mention it, i reread issue two just now and i just recalled the controversy behind one thing - when jigsaw broke spidyes arm.
now remember the villians are all doped up, and jigsaw was always a non super power - just mafiaso. that seems HIGHLY ODD/IRREGULAR that a non super power mafia guy is on a super powered prison and breaking spideys arm. then he never mentions it in the Hood storyline? seems fishy

I think they Finch actually admitted that the Jigsaw thing was a mistake on his part. I beleive it was suppossed to be Piledriver.

That said, making him a skrull is an easy way to explain the mistake.

[SnakeEater]

I think they Finch actually admitted that the Jigsaw thing was a mistake on his part. I beleive it was suppossed to be Piledriver.

That said, making him a skrull is an easy way to explain the mistake.

i wasnt around for the first three issues of new avengers when they first came out. i had no idea until issue 4 or so and by then had to hunt down the first three issues and that hype was already dead.
sigh bendis is too genius, i hope this doesnt bomb like HoM. speaking of which anyone reread that yet to see anything?

[Kirk G]

The Captain Marvel title has been so rewarding. I don't believe SI#1 would give away their series end.

The way Captain Marvel has been going I bet Mar-vell is a Skrull. The Captain Marvel persona he received was so strong-willed, that that aspect of him will persist and remain. Fun stuff. :D

Yes, I agree with this entirely.
It's Marvel's way to return a CM to the 616 and add drama and conflict tot he character.

I predict an ongoing series out of S.I. for him/it...

[Monty_Cristo]

Yes, I agree with this entirely.
It's Marvel's way to return a CM to the 616 and add drama and conflict tot he character.

I predict an ongoing series out of S.I. for him/it...

i think it's more likely that Noh-Varr will replace him as Captain Mar-Vell; probably by ripping his heart out.

[jackolover]

Looking at NA #1 - 6, I would say the Wolverine that suddenly appears out of nowhere in the Savage Land to join the team could be a Skrull. I wonder if Skrullverine has been hanging out with the NA at the same time that the real Wolvie has been hanging out with the X-Men and his own book.

I don't read Wolverine books too much. Does he mention being a member of the NA in any of his books or the X-Men titles?

That's a very good point. And Wolverine does mention to the NA, while on the plane back from Japan, that he himself would be a prime candidate for a Skrull, because he appears in so may different locations. It is a classic piece of misinformation, of someone trying to hide in open view.

[jackolover]

Yes; House of M, among many, many others.

There's no way whatsoever that a Skrull Wolverine could run around with the Avengers for years and the real Wolverine wouldn't notice.

They are the secret Avengers, and Wolvy went awol during CW to track down Nitro. So, maybe the question never came up.

[Kirk G]

May I go on record that the flash of light that Mar-Vell sees in the Negative Zone at the end of C.M #4 is probably the Baxter Building being sucked into that world, and that he's going to step in to stop or rescue it... thereby proving that he's a hero, despite his background/genetics. That's the way they get Johnny & kids out of the jam.

[Dr. Chaos]

Despite the skrull reveals, the biggest "wow/woah" moment in this issue for me came in the form of Captain Marvel pulling a Kool-Aid man on the wall of Norman's office.

After having plot points like the baxter building implosion and return of 70s heroes spoiled in interviews and covers, that took me off guard.

Epic page.


So, anyone still think Marvel boy was a marvel viral marketing campaign?
Indeed I do.

[Monty_Cristo]

May I go on record that the flash of light that Mar-Vell sees in the Negative Zone at the end of C.M #4 is probably the Baxter Building being sucked into that world, and that he's going to step in to stop or rescue it... thereby proving that he's a hero, despite his background/genetics. That's the way they get Johnny & kids out of the jam.

so why's he attacking the Thunderbolts' base?

[Mani]

damn, this issue was crazy, i've been stoked about this starting up for the last week and it didn't disappoint. cap marvel, the baxter building implosion(!), the 70's heroes coming out of no where...damn, i can't wait to see what happens next.

[HaroldAllnut]

Am I the only one who hopes that Spidey or Mephisto are Skrulls? :eek:

[HaroldAllnut]

DOUBLE POST!

so why's he attacking the Thunderbolts' base?

Maybe he thinks Norman was somehow responsible? Maybe the real Marvel is heading off to save the FF while a Skrull impostor is attacking the T-Bolts?

[Mani]

Am I the only one who hopes that Spidey or Mephisto are Skrulls? :eek:

even though i normally hate retcon stuff like that (seems to cheapen the value of both stories, to me) OMD was just too much for me and i don't even really read much spidey.

as long as tony and cap aren't skrulls, anyone else is fair game in my book.

[Dr. Chaos]

Yes, I agree with this entirely.
It's Marvel's way to return a CM to the 616 and add drama and conflict tot he character.

I predict an ongoing series out of S.I. for him/it...
I am hoping he is a sleeper skrull.

In it's own way, it's actually an interesting enough way to bring back Captain Marvel for a lil bit without cheapening his real death.

That said, I wouldn't mind seeing him die in SI to save a couple of lifes, I'm not a Captain Marvel fan but he's been surprisingly badass lately.

[bulbasteve]

I know the 70s stuff was cool and all, but come on guys, more talk about the ending!

It totally made the kinda korny "he loves you" line totally worth it, and man...the teeth and eyeball...gross!

[Mani]

I know the 70s stuff was cool and all, but come on guys, more talk about the ending!

It totally made the kinda korny "he loves you" line totally work it, and man...the teeth and eyeball...gross!

yeah that kinda shocked me, reed got pwned pretty hard, that was some gun. must have been some like kinetic super pistol, more of a squisher and smoosher than a piercer.

[Dr. Chaos]

Actually, that line worked for me the minute skrull Dugan gutted him in the dead of the night.

That creeped me out, I think it's turned out to be surprisingly effective.

In any case, I'll take it over the typical "Prepare to die, feeble humans! Your planet is now the skrulllls!!" alien monologue.

[HaroldAllnut]

http://www.ifanboy.com/ has a great lil' spoiler-filled video on Secret Invasion #1 for those of you who are interested.

Anyhow... the significance of "He loves you?"

Some people at the Pulp Secret Forums have been saying that the "he" in "He loves you" is the Super Skrull, but I sincerely disagree, seeing that he was more or less in a disgraced state during Anihillation. Not only that, but there's more than one Super Skrull anyhow [see the newest issue of New Avengers for more on that], including one with the powers of the X-Men.

:D

The only thing that illicited a bigger emotional response from me today was Walking Dead #48. My fellow Kirkmaniancs, you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Anyhow, back to Earth 616... Do you guys think Sue was replaced, or is this just an infiltrator-double walking around despite Sue's presence on Earth?

[mikekerr3]

so why's he attacking the Thunderbolts' base?


Isn't beating up villains what Heroes do? Possibly he just doesn't care that they wear a badge as they commit their crimes.

Seems right but we will see, what ever reason they deserve to get trashed for enough reasons already that even if his isn't valid it's still a good idea. I would be fun to Se old Norman try to "Green Goblin" him.

[Dr. Chaos]

Highly doubt he's that far up the chain if the Super Skrull is involved.

If the Skrulls ever make an appearance in a FF sequel (which hopefully will not happen if the past two were anything to go by), this is exactly how I want to see the transformation.

The whole vine/veinish covering the skin thing is just a damn cool visual.

[Tater]

I wondered myself who the he was. Since Bendis said this is a religious thing for the skulls, I think they mean God. Maybe I'm reading into it too much. Typical over the top bible thumpers are usually shown saying similar things though. It would make sense if the Skulls saw people like Tony as evil sinners or something and thats why they said it.

[TotalWorldDomination]

so why's he attacking the Thunderbolts' base?

I'd wager the skrulls are messing with the good captain and have convinced him that Norman Osborn ect, al. are skrulls. After all, the thunderbolts are going to be a big target for the skrulls. They're the last line of defense against superhuman lawlessness (with the avengers being the first line). The skrulls must fear the Thunderbolts quite a bit...

[Dr. Chaos]

I wondered myself who the he was. Since Bendis said this is a religious thing for the skulls, I think they mean God. Maybe I'm reading into it too much. Typical over the top bible thumpers are usually shown saying similar things though. It would make sense if the Skulls saw people like Tony as evil sinners or something and thats why they said it.
That would be the simplest answer and makes most of the sense, as we've been told this is all happening becuase of a religious prophecy.

But what I'm hoping for, even though the God answer is what I'm expecting, is a surprising leader behind the machinations of all this.

Something a lil more exciting than a random skrull leader.

[DeadMuskrat]

What if the He in "He loves you" is Hulkling. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the Skrulls who are invading the same skrulls that believe in the prophecy that Hulkling is the Emperor who will unite them all?

Would make an interesting development if you ask me.

[jackolover]

Actually, that line worked for me the minute skrull Dugan gutted him in the dead of the night.

That creeped me out, I think it's turned out to be surprisingly effective.

In any case, I'll take it over the typical "Prepare to die, feeble humans! Your planet is now the skrulllls!!" alien monologue.

Ummm. Did Dugan gut somebody in SI #1? I hadn't heard that mentioned before.

[joemagnum611]

Who are these Mr. Anonymous and Marvel boy guys and how a can I read their blogs?

[Dr. Chaos]

Ummm. Did Dugan gut somebody in SI #1? I hadn't heard that mentioned before.
Secret Invasion prologue.

Check Marvel.com

[joemagnum611]

Ummm. Did Dugan gut somebody in SI #1? I hadn't heard that mentioned before.

The Skrull Dugan Gutted the real one in the prolouge

[Secret Identity]

Do you guys think Sue was replaced, or is this just an infiltrator-double walking around despite Sue's presence on Earth?
I think, if I had to guess, that that was just an infiltration. If Sue had been replaced by that Skrull then it wouldn't have needed to sneak in through the tour. I think it was just a needed at the moment copy like the Daredevil clone when they were trying to get Echo.

[TotalWorldDomination]

What if the He in "He loves you" is Hulkling. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the Skrulls who are invading the same skrulls that believe in the prophecy that Hulkling is the Emperor who will unite them all?

Would make an interesting development if you ask me.

YES. That would be very interesting. I realy hope that's what it is. Cause they would be sparing them from death because there beloved emporor genuinely loved the people of earth. Wow. That would be fantastic. even if it probably is incorrect.

[Wally_West]

What if the He in "He loves you" is Hulkling. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the Skrulls who are invading the same skrulls that believe in the prophecy that Hulkling is the Emperor who will unite them all?

Would make an interesting development if you ask me.

That would explain why he looked like a Skrull to me when I was reading CW. In fact, prior to CW I'd never heard of Hulkling...so I really did think it was a Skrull.

[TotalWorldDomination]

That would explain why he looked like a Skrull to me when I was reading CW. In fact, prior to CW I'd never heard of Hulkling...so I really did think it was a Skrull.

And you were right. Or half-right realy. Check out his wikipedia page, he's a pretty cool character. Son of Captian Mar-Vell of the Kree and a princess of the Skrull.

[Dr. Chaos]

Wouldn't be the worst idea I suppose but I'm really hoping Hulking doesn't take that big of a focus outside of the RA/YA mini and they keep the "he's our messiah" dangling plotline over there.

[Tater]

I'd prefer Xavin to be the leader behind it all. I'm a runaways fan and not much of a Young Runaways one. I should read Young Avengers I guess. Hulking is better known though.

[Dr. Chaos]

I'd prefer Xavin to be the leader behind it all. I'm a runaways fan and not much of a Young Runaways one. Hulking is better known though.
If it means he gets to die a horrible and brutal death then sure.

Xavin is probably just about my least favorite recurring Marvel character right now.

[Wally_West]

And you were right. Or half-right realy. Check out his wikipedia page, he's a pretty cool character. Son of Captian Mar-Vell of the Kree and a princess of the Skrull.

-____-

Theres so much of marvel I don't know...

Wouldn't be the worst idea I suppose but I'm really hoping Hulking doesn't take that big of a focus outside of the RA/YA mini and they keep the "he's our messiah" dangling plotline over there.

I agree, and I honestly don't know much about Hulkling, but this just feels like a weak cop-out for a story plot imo.

[Mani]

I think, if I had to guess, that that was just an infiltration. If Sue had been replaced by that Skrull then it wouldn't have needed to sneak in through the tour. I think it was just a needed at the moment copy like the Daredevil clone when they were trying to get Echo.

i agree and it sounded like johnny had seen the real sue earlier that day anyway.

[Tater]

I'm not Xavin's biggest fan either. I'd just prefer a character I'm more familar with to be the big guy here. It'd make sense for him too as he was training to be a superskull and is royality I believe. Maybe even let the runaways be the one to stop him. Well I can hope anyways.

[MarvelFreak]

In captain marvel's mini series i think it was either issue 3 or 4 he was interviewing the skrull and the show a flash back to when marvel was captured during the kree skrull war, in the flash back a skrull comes in a fires a gun and their is an explosion and marvel appears in the negative zone. maybe marvel was replaced by a sleeper skrull then and the sleeper skrull got cancer and died and the real marvel was found floating in the negative zone during the civil war that would explain his memory loss and allow marvel to bring him back to the current 616 ... just a thought

[TotalWorldDomination]

In captain marvel's mini series i think it was either issue 3 or 4 he was interviewing the skrull and the show a flash back to when marvel was captured during the kree skrull war, in the flash back a skrull comes in a fires a gun and their is an explosion and marvel appears in the negative zone. maybe marvel was replaced by a sleeper skrull then and the sleeper skrull got cancer and died and the real marvel was found floating in the negative zone during the civil war that would explain his memory loss and allow marvel to bring him back to the current 616 ... just a thought

Possible, but it would officially defecate all over one of the greatest stories of all time.

That being said, I've never read said story so I'd be ok with this turn of events.

[mikekerr3]

Possible, but it would officially defecate all over one of the greatest stories of all time.

That being said, I've never read said story so I'd be ok with this turn of events.

Defecating over great stories is Joe Q's latest gimmick. See Spider-man for proof.

[longshot3]

That line, "He Loves You" really creeped me out :eek:

[Dr. Chaos]

Defecating over great stories is Joe Q's latest gimmick. See Spider-man for proof.
If Joe Q did nonthing else at Marvel, I would still forever be in debt to him for bringing Amazing back to life.

He's finally cleaned the cob webs out of Peter's personal life and made the book more readable than it has been in many years.

Of course, thats a different discussion entirely.

[mandog]

What a great issue. The month long wait thats ahead is going to be painful.

[gunz]

i gotta say (i'm sorry i didn't read all the posts so this was probally said already) i loved it except for luke cage. Luke cage came of as a jerk and who is he to bark at tony, but other than that, loved it.

The wholw thing really got me..... excited. I'm excited to see what happens and i want to read more. Marvel might actually know what there doiing (cept for OMD but that is for another thread) and have actually been building this up for a while. Praise to bendis on this one because not only did i like this, but now I'm actually thinking about what marvel has been doing the last couple of years and saying, "DAMNIT they got me"

[gunz]

i gotta say (i'm sorry i didn't read all the posts so this was probally said already) i loved it except for luke cage. Luke cage came of as a jerk and who is he to bark at tony, but other than that, loved it.

The whole thing really got me..... excited. I'm excited to see what happens and i want to read more. Marvel might actually know what there doing (cept for OMD but that is for another thread) and have actually been building this up for a while. Praise to bendis on this one because not only did i like this, but now I'm actually thinking about what marvel has been doing the last couple of years and saying, "DAMNIT they got me"

[jackolover]

Secret Invasion prologue.

Check Marvel.com

Can't get into it unless you pay, so I missed that. I hope they bring it up in the event, and show this in a book.

[Dr. Chaos]

Luke cage came of as a jerk and who is he to bark at tony.
Considering what an A-hole he's been, I don't think Tony (who was the one doing the barking in that scene) really has a leg to stand on.

Luke did what any other superhero should do when a law enforcer with mismatched priorities tries to stop them from saving lives, tell them to shut the hell up and let you do your job.

[HaroldAllnut]

What if the He in "He loves you" is Hulkling. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the Skrulls who are invading the same skrulls that believe in the prophecy that Hulkling is the Emperor who will unite them all?

Would make an interesting development if you ask me.

:eek:

That would indeed, especially if Wiccan were to be his queen. That would be perfect.

But, I sincerely doubt that Hulkling is evil. SINCERELY doubt it.

[Dr. Chaos]

Can't get into it unless you pay, so I missed that. I hope they bring it up in the event, and show this in a book.
It's free again now.

They changed it before but it's pretty much free promo material once more.

[jackolover]

It's free again now.

They changed it before but it's pretty much free promo material once more.

Thanks Dr. Chaos

[Saviors_Tragedy]

XD I loved this, a good opening for hopefully a fantastic storyline. I just prey marvel executes this story well and not wuss out on us.
*coughCivilWarcough*

*raises a hand* Now I just ask both for you to be gentle and to forgive me but why do Skrulls say "He Loves You" just before they accomplish suicidal missions?


I'M NEW! don't hurt me >_<

[IronStarks]

So how many Caps are running around now????

I count 4 if you include the Invaders crossover coming soon.

[InsaneGame]

XD I loved this, a good opening for hopefully a fantastic storyline. I just prey marvel executes this story well and not wuss out on us.
*coughCivilWarcough*

*raises a hand* Now I just ask both for you to be gentle and to forgive me but why do Skrulls say "He Loves You" just before they accomplish suicidal missions?


I'M NEW! don't hurt me >_<
The he loves you thing is going to be explained later im guessing becuase well I have no clue what it could be refering to besides one of hte skrull gods.

[Will.S]

Considering what an A-hole he's been, I don't think Tony (who was the one doing the barking in that scene) really has a leg to stand on.
Heh well I can't say I blame Iron Man after Luke and the NA stole their quinjet ;)

BTW did Ronin's nunchucks actually come *back* to his hand boomerang style or am I just interpreting that wrong?

[ForEverAncien]

I hope that our sakes, this does not become a mental mess for the entire run.

[CyberCoyote]

So how many Caps are running around now????

I count 4 if you include the Invaders crossover coming soon.

And how many Invisible Women? Toronto Sue/Skrull Sue/ Skrash landing Skravage Land Skruttle Sue..

And there's a couple pairs of Nega Bands out there, too.

As for Mar-vell, if he's a dupe I think he's still on the side of the angels. He didn't say He loves You, someone in T-Bolts has him pissed off and he's there to rip their Skrull head off, probably Osborn. That he has cancer in his body but he's NOT sick from it as the Cobalt Skrull pointed out in Capt Marvel#4 I think says he's not the real deal but an imposter of some sort.

Jarvis almost seemed hypnotized or possessed more than Skrully.

Overall it was very entertaining. Would have preferred someone more capable drawing big team scenes on this (worst looking Thor EVER.. gotta kill that sucker fast), and the presence of some of those 'returning' heroes makes it seem none of them are real deals. Thor particularly.

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I think #1 disproves IM as a Skrull. Why would Jarvis/Skrull attack the Stark system w/ a virus if Tony Stark himself was a Skrull? Isn't the whole point of the virus to disable all of Stark's toys? If they already had Stark converted than there would be no need for the virus, they would have cont