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TomStillwell
04-01-2008, 07:36 PM
I've been thinking about this for a while now. I feel like I've been spinning my wheels, wasting a lot of money and time, with little to show for it.

I'm just not that good at writing comics and Honor Brigade is just horrible. Awful. No one even likes or reads it. I guess I wasn't meant to make comics.

The good news is now I've free to pursue my other passion.

I'm going to become a script writer for hardcore porn.

Really nasty stuff. There will be animals of some kind and possibly foreign objects. New sexual positions will be created like the Left-Armed Llama and the Turnpike Two Step. Out with the tired old pizza boy/delivery man/plumber scenarios and in with barista/tech squad geek/pilates instructor scenarios.

God, this is so liberating!!! Finally to be fulfilling my dream of getting people off with money shots and teabagging!!!

Writing all-ages comics that kids could read? What the hell was I thinking?

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 07:44 PM
April Fool's, fuckface! Though I'd totally watch some Stillwell porn. Especially if ya' starred in it. ;)

cedardryad
04-01-2008, 07:44 PM
Go for it TOM! Porn all the way. Although I frown on the animal topic.

Tommy
04-01-2008, 07:46 PM
Isn't it every writer's dream to work in porn?

Sabrinaset
04-01-2008, 07:50 PM
Most people who post in YABS tend to get a lot of experience in writing or posting pictures of porn anyways.

Tommy
04-01-2008, 07:55 PM
Most people who post in YABS tend to get a lot of experience in writing or posting pictures of porn anyways.

I thought you missed the Justin Hartley Fantasy Off?

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:00 PM
Most people who post in YABS tend to get a lot of experience in writing or posting pictures of porn anyways.

don't forget all of the niche markets out there...i happen to dabble in albino lesbian amputee midgets...so if you're ever in the mood let me know and i'll hook ya up...;)

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:00 PM
I thought you missed the Justin Hartley Fantasy Off?

that was like one of the best nights of posting, ever!!

Tommy
04-01-2008, 08:03 PM
don't forget all of the niche markets out there...i happen to dabble in albino lesbian amputee midgets...so if you're ever in the mood let me know and i'll hook ya up...;)

You know I've been filming all African American Albino gang bangs in my basement. We should really pool our resources. And by pool I mean sex in a pool.

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:12 PM
You know I've been filming all African American Albino gang bangs in my basement. We should really pool our resources. And by pool I mean sex in a pool.

does this include the midgets??

Tommy
04-01-2008, 08:13 PM
does this include the midgets??

Yes, what on earth shouldn't include midgets? But we should probibly dress them up like the seven dwarves.

Corrina
04-01-2008, 08:16 PM
Oddly, I am actually currently working on a porn submission.

But I think I need to throw it all away for comics. :)

Ben Morgan
04-01-2008, 08:17 PM
Well it's about time!

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:17 PM
Yes, what on earth shouldn't include midgets? But we should probibly dress them up like the seven dwarves.

or john wayne gacey...

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:18 PM
Oddly, I am actually currently working on a porn submission.

But I think I need to throw it all away for comics. :)

would that make you like the bizarro tom?? :eek:

SUPERECWFAN1
04-01-2008, 08:26 PM
yEAHHH !!! If Tom gets a job as a writer in porn I plan to give up my career in construction to take part in a Tom Stillwell porno. Now to be fair ...I don't do barnyard animals. They are beneath me !

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 08:27 PM
Yes, what on earth shouldn't include midgets? But we should probibly dress them up like the seven dwarves.

Saw it. Been made. That chick should've gotten a medal.

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:28 PM
Saw it. Been made. That chick should've gotten a medal.

no one was talkin' to ya, you donkey hole...:mad:

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 08:29 PM
no one was talkin' to ya, you donkey hole...:mad:

I'll donkey hole you! :evilangry

Sabrinaset
04-01-2008, 08:29 PM
yEAHHH !!! If Tom gets a job as a writer in porn I plan to give up my career in construction to take part in a Tom Stillwell porno. Now to be fair ...I don't do barnyard animals. They are beneath me !

I guess now we KNOW why you always liked Val Venis ...

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:33 PM
I guess now we KNOW why you always liked Val Venis ...

cause it rhymes w/ penis??

Tommy
04-01-2008, 08:33 PM
I'll donkey hole you! :evilangry

SAVE IT FOR WHEN THE CAMERA IS RUNNING!

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 08:34 PM
SAVE IT FOR WHEN THE CAMERA IS RUNNING!

I can't keep it in my pants. :( I have a problem!

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:35 PM
I can't keep it in my pants. :( I have a problem!

i don't think you should be so brazen about what's in your repertoire...

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 08:36 PM
i don't think you should be so brazen about what's in your repertoire...

I think everyone should live by "if ya' got it, flaunt it." Whether "it" is excellent writing talent or a big dong. ;)

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:37 PM
I think everyone should live by "if ya' got it, flaunt it." Whether "it" is excellent writing talent or a big dong. ;)

hey man, manute bol was like 8' tall...but he still played like shit...

SUPERECWFAN1
04-01-2008, 08:38 PM
I guess now we KNOW why you always liked Val Venis ...

cause it rhymes w/ penis??

"Hellllllllllloooooooooo Ladies...."

Ben Morgan
04-01-2008, 08:40 PM
Great, now Super's in his element

Tommy
04-01-2008, 08:41 PM
I think everyone should live by "if ya' got it, flaunt it." Whether "it" is excellent writing talent or a big dong. ;)

That's just a trick of the camera angle.

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:42 PM
"Hellllllllllloooooooooo Ladies...."

are you shakin' your money maker??

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 08:43 PM
hey man, manute bol was like 8' tall...but he still played like shit...

Basketball and donkey holin' are completely different! :rolleyes:

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:43 PM
That's just a trick of the camera angle.

*ha!*...used lots of vaseline huh??

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:44 PM
Basketball and donkey holin' are completely different! :rolleyes:

the correlation is actually between you an manute...:rolleyes:

Sabrinaset
04-01-2008, 08:45 PM
cause it rhymes w/ penis??

Now YOU know the glory that is Vince Russo!

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 08:45 PM
*ha!*...used lots of vaseline huh??

Yeah, some Vaseline wouldn't hurt. ;)

the correlation is actually between you an manute...:rolleyes:

I'll correlate you! :mad:

Tommy
04-01-2008, 08:46 PM
Basketball and donkey holin' are completely different! :rolleyes:

Well I find that both involve ten men and last for forty-eight minutes.

Tommy
04-01-2008, 08:47 PM
Yeah, some Vaseline wouldn't hurt. ;)

I thought it was supposed to hurt? How else are we supposed to get the S&M crowd?

Sally Sensational
04-01-2008, 08:49 PM
Sk sez . . .

Y'all better be careful or we'll be up to our asses in Midget Activists!'

They're called LITTLE PEOPLE!

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:50 PM
Now YOU know the glory that is Vince Russo!

the super bowl guy??

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 08:50 PM
Well I find that both involve ten men and last for forty-eight minutes.

And lots of balls bouncing around, right? Right!? :D

I thought it was supposed to hurt? How else are we supposed to get the S&M crowd?

Nipple clamps! I'll share with Aggie if she wants. ;)

Sk sez . . .

Y'all better be careful or we'll be up to our asses in Midget Activists!'

They're called LITTLE PEOPLE!

"Little people porn" doesn't roll off the tongue, though...

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:51 PM
Sk sez . . .

Y'all better be careful or we'll be up to our asses in Midget Activists!'

They're called LITTLE PEOPLE!

tell 'er that's pretty much the point...;) :p :evilsmile

Tommy
04-01-2008, 08:51 PM
They're called LITTLE PEOPLE!

And this is called a big world!

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:51 PM
And lots of balls bouncing around, right? Right!? :D



Nipple clamps! I'll share with Aggie if she wants. ;)

dude...i'm a dom not a sub...:cool:

Aggie
04-01-2008, 08:53 PM
Well I find that both involve ten men and last for forty-eight minutes.

this is sig worthy!!

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 08:54 PM
dude...i'm a dom not a sub...:cool:

Well... I guess I'll have to have sex with Tommy, then. :o Unless he's a power bottom, then we're gonna have to find me one hot "little person." ;)

Tommy
04-01-2008, 08:56 PM
Well... I guess I'll have to have sex with Tommy, then. :o Unless he's a power bottom, then we're gonna have to find me one hot "little person." ;)

Everyone knows I'm way too controlling to be a power bottom.

Corrina
04-01-2008, 09:00 PM
As an aside, does anyone know what kind of oil/lubrication that northeastern Native American tribes circa 900 AD might have used?

I gave it a floral scent from wildflowers but I'm thinking it's corn oil.

Aggie
04-01-2008, 09:01 PM
Everyone knows I'm way too controlling to be a power bottom.

well somebody's gotta wear this ball gag and horse's saddle...:rolleyes:

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 09:01 PM
Everyone knows I'm way too controlling to be a power bottom.

Damn! Then I'm gonna need, like, at least five midgets.

Aggie
04-01-2008, 09:02 PM
As an aside, does anyone know what kind of oil/lubrication that northeastern Native American tribes circa 900 AD might have used?

I gave it a floral scent from wildflowers but I'm thinking it's corn oil.

solaris might now, i think she was doing some research on native americans recently.

Tommy
04-01-2008, 09:03 PM
Damn! Then I'm gonna need, like, at least five midgets.

Well Aggie has them locked up in her shed.

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 09:04 PM
well somebody's gotta wear this ball gag and horse's saddle...:rolleyes:

Duh, that's why we got the midgets? Jeez. :p

Sabrinaset
04-01-2008, 09:04 PM
As an aside, does anyone know what kind of oil/lubrication that northeastern Native American tribes circa 900 AD might have used?

I gave it a floral scent from wildflowers but I'm thinking it's corn oil.

Corrina, you scamp! :p Dare I ask why?

solaris might now, i think she was doing some research on native americans recently.

Well, I think Solaris said it had something to do with fish oil scraped off of newly sewn fishnets!

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 09:05 PM
Well Aggie has them locked up in her shed.

Safe a place as any for a gaggle of midgets!

Tommy
04-01-2008, 09:06 PM
Safe a place as any for a gaggle of midgets!

http://www.costumersnetwork.com/prodimages/FW8071.jpg

Just make sure you take your pimp cane.

Aggie
04-01-2008, 09:06 PM
Well Aggie has them locked up in her shed.

well we don't want them to end up like those poor little chinese children in your coloring book factory

Sally Sensational
04-01-2008, 09:07 PM
As an aside, does anyone know what kind of oil/lubrication that northeastern Native American tribes circa 900 AD might have used?

I gave it a floral scent from wildflowers but I'm thinking it's corn oil.

I know that the Ancient Egyptians used crocodile urine for birth control purposes. I don't think it would be impossible that the early tribes used some sort of animal oil. Although a vegetable oil is much more palatable to today's audience.

Tommy
04-01-2008, 09:07 PM
well we don't want them to end up like those poor little chinese children in your coloring book factory

HEY! Those kids made almost four cents a page! High pay for a high risk job.

Corrina
04-01-2008, 09:07 PM
Why?

I'm writing a three-way (guy/girl/guy) set in Northeastern USA, circa 900 AD or so. And one of the guys is pretty big. It occurs to me that lubrication is needed for, you know, realism.

Sabrinaset
04-01-2008, 09:07 PM
power bottom.

Hey, Kris!

No. Just no.

Aggie
04-01-2008, 09:07 PM
Corrina, you scamp! :p Dare I ask why?



Well, I think Solaris said it had something to do with fish oil scraped off of newly sewn fishnets!

awww..i heart that you used the word "scamp"...*heart melts*

Tommy
04-01-2008, 09:09 PM
I know that the Ancient Egyptians used crocodile urine for birth control purposes. I don't think it would be impossible that the early tribes used some sort of animal oil. Although a vegetable oil is much more palatable to today's audience.

That would take quite a contraption. And then you'd have to sit there under it for forever until it urinates...

What if it pooped first?:confused:

Sabrinaset
04-01-2008, 09:09 PM
Why?

I'm writing a three-way (guy/girl/guy) set in Northeastern USA, circa 900 AD or so. And one of the guys is pretty big. It occurs to me that lubrication is needed for, you know, realism.

Well, this is a real letdown. I always thought Corrina was as sweet and innocent as I am!

Tommy
04-01-2008, 09:10 PM
a three-way (guy/girl/guy)

Why aren't all threesomes guy-guy-girl or guy-guy-guy?:confused:

Corrina
04-01-2008, 09:12 PM
What can I say? Porn is where the money is, babe!

Yeah, Sally, I think animal-based oil might ruin the fantasy. Though I think I may be going about it wrong, a bit. I keep wondering how bad their breath smells without toothpaste and all. And how long there is between showers.

Must create natural hot spring, i think.

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 09:14 PM
I'm writing a three-way (guy/girl/guy) set in Northeastern USA, circa 900 AD or so.

Aw, nuts. That's way too early for the guys to bust out the Eiffel Tower.

Bo Bo
04-01-2008, 09:14 PM
Well, this is a real letdown. I always thought Corrina was as sweet and innocent as I am!

Ever since I read Sabrinaset3 comments in lynxland, no one in comparison seems sweet and innocent to me anymore.

Did you know she's a virgin?

Aggie
04-01-2008, 09:15 PM
What can I say? Porn is where the money is, babe!

Yeah, Sally, I think animal-based oil might ruin the fantasy. Though I think I may be going about it wrong, a bit. I keep wondering how bad their breath smells without toothpaste and all. And how long there is between showers.

Must create natural hot spring, i think.

what about good ol' fashioned saliva?? it don't get no realer than that...and yes i know that's not a real word...but that's how i roll...
and *ha* bree thought cor was sweet and innocent...*laughs*...boy you really are a blond...:p ;)

Aggie
04-01-2008, 09:16 PM
Ever since I read Sabrinaset3 comments in lynxland, no one in comparison seems sweet and innocent to me anymore.

Did you know she's a virgin?

look at you burnsie...all full blown YABS nutter...say, you think tom intended this to be the new party thread??

Corrina
04-01-2008, 09:16 PM
Saliva is enough for guy/guy anal sex when one of them is quite large?

I'm thinking lubrication might be a help but then...okay, nevermind what I was going to say.

Tommy
04-01-2008, 09:17 PM
Saliva is enough for guy/guy anal sex when one of them is quite large?

In large quantities, with rimming and fingering.:evilsmile

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 09:18 PM
what about good ol' fashioned saliva?? it don't get no realer than that...and yes i know that's not a real word...but that's how i roll...
and *ha* bree thought cor was sweet and innocent...*laughs*...boy you really are a blond...:p ;)

Yep, all natural spit. Nothin' beats it better than spit. ;)

Bo Bo
04-01-2008, 09:18 PM
look at you burnsie...all full blown YABS nutter...say, you think tom intended this to be the new party thread??

He invoked porn of various kinds. This is YABS, what else would he thought could have happened?

Corrina
04-01-2008, 09:18 PM
But spit is so...messy.

And oil glistens so prettily on bodies in the firelight...

Well, so long as they don't get too close to the fire. :)

Aggie
04-01-2008, 09:18 PM
who says the internet ain't educational...:rolleyes:

Aggie
04-01-2008, 09:19 PM
He invoked porn of various kinds. This is YABS, what else would he thought could have happened?

you get points for using the word "invoke" makes it sounds like the work of nefarious beings and such...pretty snazzy i think...

Sabrinaset
04-01-2008, 09:20 PM
I believe during the Greek civilizations ... or maybe the Roman Empire ... they used rags soaked in fat as lubricants for wheels, but besides that, all I can think of would be canola, palm, or sunflower seed oil as lubricants that might have been used.

TomStillwell
04-01-2008, 09:21 PM
I know that the Ancient Egyptians used crocodile urine for birth control purposes. I don't think it would be impossible that the early tribes used some sort of animal oil. Although a vegetable oil is much more palatable to today's audience.

I use crocodile urine to wax my car. It's hard to get, but baby, what a shine!!!

Oh, I just invented another new sexual position: The Astronaut's Jello Blender

Bo Bo
04-01-2008, 09:22 PM
you get points for using the word "invoke" makes it sounds like the work of nefarious beings and such...pretty snazzy i think...

thanks, I'm pretty proud that I could use such a big word....

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 09:22 PM
But spit is so...messy.

And oil glistens so prettily on bodies in the firelight...

Well, so long as they don't get too close to the fire. :)

I think the messiness will add to the same. Make sure there's a lot of spit. And not just, like, drooling saliva, but a big ol' haaaaaaaaaaaaach-ptooie on the butthole kinda spit. ;)

Sabrinaset
04-01-2008, 09:23 PM
I don't think there were too many crocodiles roaming the American Midwest around 900 AD to get any urine outta them! Now, maybe ancient Joisey ...! :p

Aggie
04-01-2008, 09:23 PM
I believe during the Greek civilizations ... or maybe the Roman Empire ... they used rags soaked in fat as lubricants for wheels, but besides that, all I can think of would be canola, palm, or sunflower seed oil as lubricants that might have been used.

i knew the movie "caligula" was inaccurate in that donkey holin' scene w/ that big vat of margarine...

Aggie
04-01-2008, 09:25 PM
thanks, I'm pretty proud that I could use such a big word....

it's not the size of the word that matters...it's how you use it...:evilsmile

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 09:26 PM
it's not the size of the word that matters...it's how you use it...:evilsmile

That's why the bitches love Hawking. ;)

Sabrinaset
04-01-2008, 09:26 PM
i knew the movie "caligula" was inaccurate in that donkey holin' scene w/ that big vat of margarine...

http://overthetop.beloblog.com/archives/fabio

"I can't believe it's not butter!"

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 09:29 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/longbarreljones/butterlubeky3.jpg

"I can't believe it's not butterlube!"

Aggie
04-01-2008, 09:29 PM
That's why the bitches love Hawking. ;)

yes, bitches like him...
http://overthetop.beloblog.com/archives/fabio


i love ya blond bear..twas perfect...:evilsmile

Tommy
04-01-2008, 09:31 PM
URBAN LEGEND!

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5057/urbanlegendfilmri6.jpg

TomStillwell
04-01-2008, 09:35 PM
What about buffalo lard? That's hawt!

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 09:38 PM
You're makin' me feel weird in my pantsplace, Tom! More than usual. :o

Tommy
04-01-2008, 09:39 PM
You're makin' me feel weird in my pantsplace, Tom! More than usual. :o

Quick remove them STAT!

Sabrinaset
04-01-2008, 09:40 PM
Quick remove them STAT!

I'll get the tweezers!

Jack Zodiac
04-01-2008, 09:53 PM
I'll get the tweezers!

No need! I don't actually wear pants. I call it my pantsplace since, if I wore them, that'd be the place for 'em.

Sabrinaset
04-01-2008, 09:55 PM
No need! I don't actually wear pants. I call it my pantsplace since, if I wore them, that'd be the place for 'em.

So you're like the YABS version of Ted Kennedy?

CutterMike
04-01-2008, 10:04 PM
As an aside, does anyone know what kind of oil/lubrication that northeastern Native American tribes circa 900 AD might have used?

I gave it a floral scent from wildflowers but I'm thinking it's corn oil.

I would actually assume an animal fat. I don't recall ever hearing about anything like a method of pressing vegetable oils.

Besides - lubin' up with bear grease just sounds so much more studly than corn oil!

hellokittykat
04-02-2008, 07:38 AM
I would actually assume an animal fat. I don't recall ever hearing about anything like a method of pressing vegetable oils.

Besides - lubin' up with bear grease just sounds so much more studly than corn oil!

I think bear grease is the most accurate. I'm going to the Lenape res in a couple weeks and I can ask there. :)

Yeah, they'll love that. I haven't visited in a year and then I show asking about ancestral sex lube. :rolleyes:

hellokittykat
04-02-2008, 07:39 AM
And that is an awesome band name now that I think about it! Ancestral Sex Lube. :p

They'd be a great opening band. :D

Bo Bo
04-02-2008, 07:39 AM
I think bear grease is the most accurate. I'm going to the Lenape res in a couple weeks and I can ask there. :)

Yeah, they'll love that. I haven't visited in a year and then I show asking about ancestral sex lube. :rolleyes:

What's not to love, your trying to find out more about your heritage! :p

hellokittykat
04-02-2008, 07:57 AM
What's not to love, your trying to find out more about your heritage! :p

Oh sure, I can already hear the coversation:

"Hello, Grandfather."
"Hello, White Rabbit. Long time no see!"
"Don't I know it! Hey, Grandfather, could you please tell me a little about our heritage?"
"Sure! What would you like to hear about? Our matrilineal socitey? Our war with the Susquehanna? The Treaty of Fort Pitt?"
"No, I'd like you to tell me about ancestral sex lube."
"......."

:p

hellokittykat
04-02-2008, 07:58 AM
God, I'm such a dork because I am roaring at my own bad jokes. :D :p

Corrina
04-02-2008, 08:04 AM
Well, hey, I did pick the Lenape because they are matriarchal and thus, women can have teh hawt threesome sex and be in charge.

Bear grease. I had a feeling that would be it. Well..it still glistens nicely.

hellokittykat
04-02-2008, 08:08 AM
Well, hey, I did pick the Lenape because they are matriarchal and thus, women can have teh hawt threesome sex and be in charge.

Bear grease. I had a feeling that would be it. Well..it still glistens nicely.

Get out! You're really using the Lenape nation? Awesome! :D If you need any background let me know. :)

Jack Zodiac
04-02-2008, 08:22 AM
Or, y'know, if ya' need any ideas on how the Lenape have hot sex. For the sake of writing, I'd be willing to volunteer my time and energy, too. ;)

Corrina
04-02-2008, 08:22 AM
Yeah.

I know, the whole thing sounds like a joke but basically, a few years ago, I wrote this alternative history where the Roman Empire survives and colonizes North America. It's about circa 900 AD.

But the Vikings are already there, in small numbers, and they settled near the Lenape tribes. Intermarriage & all. One generation late, sickness took most of the women (I'm using a poisoned water supply to the women's hut, where they went during their periods) and the mixed tribe of Lenape/Vikings are basically really messed up and about to fall apart.

And sex is healing...and the men outnumber the women about five to one at this point. It sounds kinky and no doubt it is, but the idea is that the women would take the power to choose before the men get all Viking macho and start killing each other over them.

The difficulty that I've found in research is that 900 AD is still a murky period in Native American studies. Around 900 AD, the native American tribes could have been less spread out--the Iroquis/Algonquin could have been very similar at the time---it's unclear. But they both had matriarchal societies, which works, and I'm more familiar with the Lenape, as I spent some time years back at the simulated village in New Jersey, the one in northern Morris county. (And remembered the women's hut.)

So the sex becomes more of a sacred sharing. And I'm trying to come up with a ceremony that's an amalgam of Norse/Lenape mythology for calling on the gods and asking for fertility.

And, anyway, the original book is already written but I was poking around and found one of the erotica publishers looking for three ways, so I'd thought I'd write the story of the original sharing, which takes place before the book I've written. (That book is from the Roman perspective.)

And ya'll thought it was an April Fool's joke. Hah!

Shisho
04-02-2008, 08:33 AM
Just when I though YABS couldn't get any weirder, you loonies had to go an make me laugh. Thanks again. :D

Yeah.

I know, the whole thing sounds like a joke but basically, a few years ago, I wrote this alternative history where the Roman Empire survives and colonizes North America. It's about circa 900 AD.

But the Vikings are already there, in small numbers, and they settled near the Lenape tribes. Intermarriage & all. One generation late, sickness took most of the women (I'm using a poisoned water supply to the women's hut, where they went during their periods) and the mixed tribe of Lenape/Vikings are basically really messed up and about to fall apart.

And sex is healing...and the men outnumber the women about five to one at this point. It sounds kinky and no doubt it is, but the idea is that the women would take the power to choose before the men get all Viking macho and start killing each other over them.

The difficulty that I've found in research is that 900 AD is still a murky period in Native American studies. Around 900 AD, the native American tribes could have been less spread out--the Iroquis/Algonquin could have been very similar at the time---it's unclear. But they both had matriarchal societies, which works, and I'm more familiar with the Lenape, as I spent some time years back at the simulated village in New Jersey, the one in northern Morris county. (And remembered the women's hut.)

So the sex becomes more of a sacred sharing. And I'm trying to come up with a ceremony that's an amalgam of Norse/Lenape mythology for calling on the gods and asking for fertility.

And, anyway, the original book is already written but I was poking around and found one of the erotica publishers looking for three ways, so I'd thought I'd write the story of the original sharing, which takes place before the book I've written. (That book is from the Roman perspective.)

And ya'll thought it was an April Fool's joke. Hah!

I hope that gets published and makes you tons of money.

hellokittykat
04-02-2008, 08:33 AM
Yeah.

I know, the whole thing sounds like a joke but basically, a few years ago, I wrote this alternative history where the Roman Empire survives and colonizes North America. It's about circa 900 AD.

The difficulty that I've found in research is that 900 AD is still a murky period in Native American studies. Around 900 AD, the native American tribes could have been less spread out--the Iroquis/Algonquin could have been very similar at the time---it's unclear. But they both had matriarchal societies, which works, and I'm more familiar with the Lenape, as I spent some time years back at the simulated village in New Jersey, the one in northern Morris county. (And remembered the women's hut.)

And ya'll thought it was an April Fool's joke. Hah!

I didn't think it sounded like a joke-it sounded interesting. :)

And the Lenape nation is a "grandfather" nation to the Iroquis and Algonquin, so if you find info on either of those that you'd like to use, you could easily take some artistic liberty and apply that to the Lenape nation.

Shisho
04-02-2008, 08:37 AM
I didn't think it sounded like a joke-it sounded interesting. :)

And the Lenape nation is a "grandfather" nation to the Iroquis and Algonquin, so if you find info on either of those that you'd like to use, you could easily take some artistic liberty and apply that to the Lenape nation.

Alternative history is always fun to play with, because the canvas is so huge. It's like "I wonder what could have happened if..." I'm listening to a podcast by this guy named Dan Carlin ("Hardcore History") and he has a whole show on history's "what ifs." If you're into podcasts, that one is pretty entertaining.

Corrina
04-02-2008, 08:44 AM
I didn't think it sounded like a joke-it sounded interesting. :)

And the Lenape nation is a "grandfather" nation to the Iroquis and Algonquin, so if you find info on either of those that you'd like to use, you could easily take some artistic liberty and apply that to the Lenape nation.

Thanks. And I may take you up on research. Wish I'd known earlier. Do you know how hard it is to separate out the research and find the original names for the Lenape nation, not ones applied by the French or the English--like Algonquin & Iroquis, for instance. Gah. No, need original tribal names.

At least the Viking stuff was easier. Skraeling, for instance, works well for Native Americans. And the Vikings called themselves Vikings.

So far, I'm just using Lenape and Mahican.

hellokittykat
04-02-2008, 08:54 AM
Thanks. And I may take you up on research. Wish I'd known earlier. Do you know how hard it is to separate out the research and find the original names for the Lenape nation, not ones applied by the French or the English--like Algonquin & Iroquis, for instance. Gah. No, need original tribal names.

At least the Viking stuff was easier. Skraeling, for instance, works well for Native Americans. And the Vikings called themselves Vikings.

So far, I'm just using Lenape and Mahican.

Sure! I'd be happy to help. :) Shoot me a PM if you have anything you want to know.