Is This Really Kirby?

[Kan-Man]

The GCD lists it as Kirby/Everett. I'm not usually one to criticize artwork, but that's not very good at all, is it? He's got like 6 sets of man boobs. And that's 6 sets too many if you ask me.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c118/Kan-Man/1443_4_085.jpg

[Cei-U!]

No, not exactly. It's Bill Everett art based on a Jack Kirby layout (i.e., sketch). And I agree, it's not one of either artist's better efforts.

Cei-U!
I fine-tune the credits!

[MichikoS]

He's got like 6 sets of man boobs. And that's 6 sets too many if you ask me. And no nipples, per the unspoken (?) comic artist convention that banned male nipples on bare chests well into the '80s, I think. Anybody remember when they saw their first male nipple clearly delineated in a comic book?

Michi

[Rob Allen]

And no nipples, per the unspoken (?) comic artist convention that banned male nipples on bare chests well into the '80s, I think. Anybody remember when they saw their first male nipple clearly delineated in a comic book?


That was one of the startling innovations introduced by Barry Smith in Conan the Barbarian in 1970, as far as I know. I ought to check Smith's Ka-Zar stories from Astonishing Tales in 1969 to see if he started drawing nipples before Conan.

[Cherokee Jack]

And no nipples, per the unspoken (?) comic artist convention that banned male nipples on bare chests well into the '80s, I think. Anybody remember when they saw their first male nipple clearly delineated in a comic book?

Michi

Hard to see, but they're there:

http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=21219&zoom=4


I think this pre-dates Conan.

[Mark Evanier]

Not Kirby.

And I do not know of any covers where Jack did layouts for another artist. Inside stories, yes...but not covers. He certainly didn't lay out this one. I'd say it's Everett all by himself.

[Kirk G]

Not Kirby.

And I do not know of any covers where Jack did layouts for another artist. Inside stories, yes...but not covers. He certainly didn't lay out this one. I'd say it's Everett all by himself.

Thank you Mark.
I had suspected as much.
Thanks for weighing in!

[Kirk G]

And no nipples, per the unspoken (?) comic artist convention that banned male nipples on bare chests well into the '80s, I think. Anybody remember when they saw their first nipple clearly delineated in a comic book?

Michi

Male or female?
Does it really make a difference?:rolleyes:















April Fools!

[Cei-U!]

And I do not know of any covers where Jack did layouts for another artist. Inside stories, yes...but not covers.

I learn something new every day around here.

Cei-U!
I stand (well, sit) corrected!

[dan bailey]

Y'know, the title of this thread scans really well to the tune of the Stevie Wonder chestnut "If You Really Love Me" ...

[Reptisaurus!]

Yeah. Definitely not Kirby-boobs. I know that man's breasts anywhere.

[MichikoS]

Hard to see, but they're there:

http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=21219&zoom=4


I think this pre-dates Conan.Them's bullet holes, not nipples! :D

Michi

[Red Oak Kid]

Hard to see, but they're there:

http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=21219&zoom=4


I think this pre-dates Conan.

Does anyone know the meaning of the Vietnam blurb on this cover?

[Paradox]

No, I don't, but I'm interested as well. Howling Commandos reunion in the 'Nam? Or Time Travel?

I'm guessing the former, since Nick's got his patch...

[dan bailey]

No, I don't, but I'm interested as well. Howling Commandos reunion in the 'Nam? Or Time Travel?

I'm guessing the former, since Nick's got his patch...

It was a 1967 reunion, though I haven't read the ish in ages & remember no details. Nor do I have Cei-U!'s invaluable Howlers index on hand ... Have you gotten to the annuals, Kurt?

[Cei-U!]

It was a 1967 reunion, though I haven't read the ish in ages & remember no details. Nor do I have Cei-U!'s invaluable Howlers index on hand ... Have you gotten to the annuals, Kurt?

All but #4. Here's the entry for #3:

Sgt. Fury Special #3
1967 $.25

Cover Art: Dick Ayers and John Tartaglione

“Viet Nam: The Valor and the Victory!” 43 pages

Gary Friedrich (Script), Dick Ayers and John Tartaglione (Art)

FC: Col. Nick Fury, Dum Dum Dugan, Izzy Cohen (still an auto mechanic), Gabe Jones, Capt. Erik Koenig (now an airline pilot), Dino Manelli (now the star of a television variety show), Pinky Pinkerton (now the manager of a London Key Club), U.S. Congressman Reb Ralston, reunited as The Howling Commandos

SC: Senator Harrington Byrd (called “Boyd” in this story), Master Sergeant Bull McGiveney, General Happy Sam Sawyer, Jasper Sitwell

SA: Lyndon B. Johnson

Intro: Izzy's unnamed wife, their daughter and two sons
Intro: Jody Manelli, Dino's daughter (mention only; no appearance)
Intro: Martin, Reb's butler
Intro: Staff Sergeant Carver, McGiveney's second-in-command

Note: First contemporary appearances of Izzy, Eric, Dino, Pinky, Reb and Happy Sam.

Is that any help?

Cei-U!
I aims to please!

[Kan-Man]

Y'know, the title of this thread scans really well to the tune of the Stevie Wonder chestnut "If You Really Love Me" ...

"Oh, is this really Kirby, won't you tell me..."

[dan bailey]

"Oh, is this really Kirby, won't you tell me..."

"Then I won't have to be/Asking around ..."

[Kirk G]

No, I don't, but I'm interested as well. Howling Commandos reunion in the 'Nam? Or Time Travel?

I'm guessing the former, since Nick's got his patch...

Talk about confusing,
At first, I thought you were still discussing the Tales to Astonished HULK cover!

Then, I thought it might have been Sgt. Fury #100, which is a trip and a half in itself!

[Rob Allen]

The GCD cover credits on TTA #85 have been changed to Bill Everett on both pencils and inks. In the Notes field, the indexer credits Mark Evanier as the source, with a link to this very thread (because I emailed them the link). Check it out:

http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=20520

One GCD editor commented, "If that's Jack Kirby's art then I'm Barack Obama."

[Kirk G]

Thanks for helping posterity, Rob.

As a kid, buying that issue used in my initial lot of Kirby comics at a school white elephant sale, the huge nipple-less Hulk did seem pretty odd to me. But as a kid of 10, I didn't know what nipples were really use for, yet....

[Kan-Man]

One GCD editor commented, "If that's Jack Kirby's art then I'm Barack Obama."

Barack posts on GCD? Now I'm definitely voting for him.

[Red Oak Kid]

Excuse me, but can we please get this thread back on the original topic of male nipple covers?

[Kirk G]

Oh, I've been disapplined! (How embarassing!)