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Chris Nowlin

04-01-2008, 01:00 PM

jobies201

04-01-2008, 01:01 PM

Why'd you do this?

Paradox

04-01-2008, 01:03 PM

I couldn't do it. I had to go completely cold turkey. I don't dare go NEAR a comic shop.

Chris Nowlin

04-01-2008, 01:04 PM

I realise I'd read like 2 montly comics in the last year or so. It was time to reevaluate strategies.

I got my last issue of All Star Superman. It was good. I'll get the trades.

Liberty Belle Fan

04-01-2008, 01:05 PM

So no more monthlies and only trades from here on out?

Jack Zodiac

04-01-2008, 01:15 PM

I could do that for most of what I read. Maybe not All-Star Superman, only because the book itself only comes out every, like, four months, the trades would come out every couple years, and I need my Morrison/Quitely fix. But some other titles I'm getting might not make it to trade one day, so I'm picking them up so long as their entertaining.

Marvel and DC, though, for the most part, I could probably live with picking up as trade paperbacks.

jessecuster3

04-01-2008, 01:27 PM

Yay! I did the same thing, a while ago. If you feel like it you go to the shop every couple months and pick some stuff up.

jobies201

04-01-2008, 01:30 PM

Wow. I could never do that. You guys = nuts. Love monthlies.

Liberty Belle Fan

04-01-2008, 01:31 PM

Since I moved there is no LCS in this area so I've picked trades up online and I've been saving a considerable amount of money with online discounts. I saved about $30 on the Captain America Omnibus.

Brandon Hanvey

04-01-2008, 01:41 PM

You'll get used to it, Chris.

I go to my store once a month pick up 2 to 3 trades/gns, and I'm good.

Once you break the habit of going every week to pick up monthlies, you just get used to reading comics differently.

Paul McEnery

04-01-2008, 02:32 PM

howyadoin

04-01-2008, 03:11 PM

Chris Nowlin

04-01-2008, 03:14 PM

Any Spider-Man collection with the Clone Saga in it is nowhere near perfect.

Oddly enough, that's part of why it's only almost perfect. I don't have the complete "Planet of the Symbiotes" story that ran through all the Super Specials. And that's part of the Clone Saga.

Have the rest of the Clone Saga though. Including the good bits.

howyadoin

04-01-2008, 03:17 PM

Paul McEnery

04-01-2008, 03:24 PM

"Perfect" and "complete" are not necessarily synonymous.

"Perfectly bloody awful" and "completely bloody awful" seem cognate.

mattx110

04-01-2008, 03:54 PM

I am rapidly approaching the next stage of evolution on this.

I'm getting so that I wait for the entire run of graphic novels to be published.

Reading all ten of the available Fables is not a satisfying experience. More!
I want the writer to come to my house and read the scripts, while the artist takes a dry-erase marker and some tissues, and illustrates the whole story in real-time!

mgs

04-01-2008, 03:58 PM

I'll try to do what Bret does and drop into the comic store and see what looks good.

that's what I do. works out most of the time. and allows me to keep a fairly controllable collection. the trick is to find a place that regularly stocks comics of all kinds, not just, per order, stuff.

Brandon Hanvey

04-01-2008, 04:04 PM

I want the writer to come to my house and read the scripts, while the artist takes a dry-erase marker and some tissues, and illustrates the whole story in real-time!

The funny thing is Sergio Aragones does this during the Quick Draw panel at comic con.

Reptisaurus!

04-01-2008, 06:00 PM

Saver?

I just got a pull list for the first time this year. Small town, not getting stuff I wanted. Stuff like Reich, Lucky, a bunch of the Ignatz books. No Marvel or DC right now, 'cause I figure the shop will have extra copies of 'em anyway. (And I'm in every week.)

I have already complained about how they wouldn't let me get "Everything with Pirates in it." Bastards.

Mac Danny

04-01-2008, 06:04 PM

Yup. After 8 years as a saver, 18 years of following some comics monthly, I said to drop them all. Including Amazing Spider-Man. Which will kill my near perfect Spider-Man collection. *sigh*

I'll try to do what Bret does and drop into the comic store and see what looks good. Or maybe I'll just only buy trades from now on. We'll see.

Ive been doing it now for a little over a year. I still wander into barnes and Noble and read some trades I don't want to buy. I buy trades here and there, but I am now very careful about what I purchase.

Therefore I recommend the Captain America Omnibus and the Last Iron Fist Story if you never read them.

SUPERECWFAN1

04-01-2008, 06:21 PM

Oddly enough, that's part of why it's only almost perfect. I don't have the complete "Planet of the Symbiotes" story that ran through all the Super Specials. And that's part of the Clone Saga.

Have the rest of the Clone Saga though. Including the good bits.

I have all those Super Specials and I agree...there was some good Clone Saga stories. Amazing Spiderman #400 was a good issue. But surronded by the shit that was the Clone Saga ...its hard to find good issues in it.

I'm not shocked to see ya drop ASM. I gave Slott and them a shot with the issues I found for cheap. But it reads like its trying to be Ultimate Spiderman in a sense and Peter's 23 going on 16 again...

berk

04-01-2008, 08:29 PM

I follow so few comics that I don't mind paying for the monthlies on the ones I do follow, like Love & Rockets. But more & more I'm getting into the trades as well, especially since I'm still catching up on a lot of stuff I missed in the 90s. Just on Book 6 of The Invisibles right now, in fact, and after that I still have a lot of Morrison, Ellis, Ennis, etc to try out. Not to mention Rushkoff's Testament and I don't remember what else. So yeah, they could scrap the monthly comic for all I care. Even the trades are overpriced, really, for the amount of time they take to read.

mattx110

04-01-2008, 08:32 PM

The funny thing is Sergio Aragones does this during the Quick Draw panel at comic con.
That sounds awesome, he rocks!

Chris Nowlin

04-01-2008, 08:33 PM

Even the trades are overpriced, really, for the amount of time they take to read.

More than anything, price is getting to me.

For $3, I can get the latest Spider-Man which will take me minutes to read and probably be mediocre at best, or I could pick up a Heinlein novel at the used book store which will last me most of the week at the rate I read.

Reptisaurus!

04-01-2008, 09:02 PM

More than anything, price is getting to me.

For $3, I can get the latest Spider-Man which will take me minutes to read and probably be mediocre at best, or I could pick up a Heinlein novel at the used book store which will last me most of the week at the rate I read.

You know, it wasn't that many years ago that Spider-man was really solid. Jenkins, early JMS, Ultimate, Tangled Web (which I freaking loved)

Now it's just so... eh. Or it was before the revamp, which I'm fine with. But most of the reviewers I read are collectively "Eh"-ing that, too.

SUPERECWFAN1

04-01-2008, 09:07 PM

You know, it wasn't that many years ago that Spider-man was really solid. Jenkins, early JMS, Ultimate, Tangled Web (which I freaking loved)

Now it's just so... eh. Or it was before the revamp, which I'm fine with. But most of the reviewers I read are collectively "Eh"-ing that, too.

Pretty much spot on with how I feel. Jenkins did a lot of heart felt type Spidey work. It wasn't CHANGE THE UNIVERSE shit. But I did love the Baseball issue where Peter and Uncle Ben went and watched the Mets every opening day for years. I got choked up on that one.

Michael P

04-01-2008, 09:10 PM

I liked that weird little dog Peter's neighbor had. They should bring him back.

mattx110

04-01-2008, 09:12 PM

I liked that weird little dog Peter's neighbor had. They should bring him back.
Barker! Bring back Caryn too... Totally cool gal.

SUPERECWFAN1

04-01-2008, 09:12 PM

I liked that weird little dog Peter's neighbor had. They should bring him back.

If he came back he would be dog burned or dog raped. Thats current Marvel and DC now. ;)

Michael P

04-01-2008, 09:14 PM

If he came back he would be dog burned or dog raped. Thats current Marvel and DC now. ;)

If they were smart, they'd bring him back for Secret Invasion, and Spidey would think he's a Skrull, but he'd really be some kind of dog-alien sent to Earth to stop the Skrulls.

Reptisaurus!

04-01-2008, 09:14 PM

I liked that weird little dog Peter's neighbor had. They should bring him back.

Yeah!

I miss all of 'em. Jenkins was doing really good work building up a functional, and fun supporting cast. But everybody else ignored him.

Forgot to mention I haven't personally read any of the thrice monthly Spidey. So I can't actually judge if it's any good.

Not to mention Rushkoff's Testament and I don't remember what else.

Is that good? I just got the first trade out of the library. I don't think I've heard anyone talk about it, ever.

Gilda Dent

04-01-2008, 09:16 PM

You'll find that once you get used to going for trades, you get used to it pretty quickly. I'm reading all the ongoing series I follow in trade, and using the money I save from not buying comics I don't read to get trades and hardcovers that are much more durable and look a lot nicer on my bookshelf.

Also, there's tons of good stuff I didn't read the first time through to go back and enjoy.

berk

04-01-2008, 09:35 PM

More than anything, price is getting to me.

For $3, I can get the latest Spider-Man which will take me minutes to read and probably be mediocre at best, or I could pick up a Heinlein novel at the used book store which will last me most of the week at the rate I read.I have to think that this is one of the reasons for the drop in readership. I can afford to buy comics now because I'm a working adult, but if comics had been priced this high (adjusting for inflation, obviously) back when I was a kid, most likely I'd never have gotten into them at all. I just wouldn't have had the money, and I don't think many kids would at that age.

Paradox

04-01-2008, 09:46 PM

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Saver?

First time I've heard that word used in this context, too.

I just got a pull list for the first time this year. Small town, not getting stuff I wanted. Stuff like Reich, Lucky, a bunch of the Ignatz books. No Marvel or DC right now, 'cause I figure the shop will have extra copies of 'em anyway. (And I'm in every week.)

I have already complained about how they wouldn't let me get "Everything with Pirates in it." Bastards.

I had the opposite problem. "Look, I just wanted JLA, not everything with JLA on the cover..."

FunkyGreenJerusalem

04-01-2008, 10:45 PM

FunkyGreenJerusalem

04-01-2008, 10:47 PM

I have already complained about how they wouldn't let me get "Everything with Pirates in it." Bastards.

Of course not, they'd have to read ALL of Previews for that - and it's a big fucking book.
Who could be bothered?

Reptisaurus!

04-01-2008, 10:53 PM

Of course not, they'd have to read ALL of Previews for that - and it's a big fucking book.
Who could be bothered?

Yeah, but it's not like I'm gonna know.

I'd have to read all of Previews for that. And that honker's BIG.

FunkyGreenJerusalem

04-01-2008, 10:56 PM

I'd have to read all of Previews for that. And that honker's BIG.

You only really need to read the first half to get the good stuff!

Gilda Dent

04-01-2008, 11:17 PM

Yeah!

I miss all of 'em. Jenkins was doing really good work building up a functional, and fun supporting cast. But everybody else ignored him.

Forgot to mention I haven't personally read any of the thrice monthly Spidey. So I can't actually judge if it's any good.

Is that good? I just got the first trade out of the library. I don't think I've heard anyone talk about it, ever.

The online store I order from has pretty much everything but that as subscription options. You can subscribe by title, by title group (all X-men or Batman related titles, for example) event, have them automatically flag crossover issues for titles you're not subscribing to, subscribe to everything by a particular creator, even subscribe by trade.

Right now I'm just doing the trade thing, but the other options are pretty cool.

I'll bet if I emailed them and said, "I want everything with pirates in it," they'd do their best to flag those.

DoctorDoom

04-01-2008, 11:26 PM

Well, enjoy.

FunkyGreenJerusalem

04-01-2008, 11:31 PM

I'll bet if I emailed them and said, "I want everything with pirates in it," they'd do their best to flag those.

And you'd get winners like She Buccaneer! (http://www.shebuccaneer.com)
Whoo!

Reptisaurus!

04-01-2008, 11:32 PM

I'd definitely pull a lot more mainstreamy stuff if I could subscribe by creator here. Wish my store did that.

Online stores aren't for me, though. I'm still at least 50% on the "Ooh, shiny" system. The fact that I can flip through a book before I buy it makes up for the increased cost.

Plus if I go in on Sunday I can talk to my blog-mate.

You only really need to read the first half to get the good stuff!

But then how will I get my Dorothy of Oz Bondage Statue (Limited to 1,000 Pieces?) You're just trying to hog all the hot, hot Munchkin bondage action for yourself.

Reptisaurus!

04-01-2008, 11:36 PM

And you'd get winners like She Buccaneer! (http://www.shebuccaneer.com)
Whoo!

Already on my pull-list, actually.

It might be good.

Well, it might.

Technically.

Alright, can you conclusively proove that "Heidi Hughes" isn't a pseudonym for Alan Moore?

FunkyGreenJerusalem

04-01-2008, 11:39 PM

But then how will I get my Dorothy of Oz Bondage Statue (Limited to 1,000 Pieces?) You're just trying to hog all the hot, hot Munchkin bondage action for yourself.

I'm still scarred (and occasionally aroused) from the time my teenaged self got a previews to look through, and the first thing I saw in the latter half was a Fumetti book - The Invisible Man.
Now, they only had a pic of the cover, but from what I can gather, the book mostly contains pictures of the Invisible Man, having sex with women.
Pictures of women pretending to have sex with a man (possibly sequential pictures).
I guess an inventive and lonely person could turn it into one of those 'put yourself in the story' books with a bit of imagination (or photos of them self in corresponding positions).

Personally I would've been more interested if it was someone making some sort of post-modern comment with a photo essay of the Invisible Man, but it did teach me one thing - you can judge a book by it's cover.

FunkyGreenJerusalem

04-01-2008, 11:41 PM

Already on my pull-list, actually.

I think that's what the artist was going for in his depiction of the lead!

Alright, can you conclusively proove that "Heidi Hughes" isn't a pseudonym for Alan Moore?

I read the preview page from the site, and if it is Moore, it WildC.A.T's VS. Spawn Moore.

berk

04-01-2008, 11:54 PM

...Is that [Testament] good? I just got the first trade out of the library. I don't think I've heard anyone talk about it, ever. I don't know, I bought the first trade but haven't read it yet. The premise, as far as I undertood it, and some recommendations here convinced me to give it a try.

Chris Nowlin

04-01-2008, 11:56 PM

Sounds good to me. And I have been told it's excellent recently by Paul McEnery.

FunkyGreenJerusalem

04-01-2008, 11:59 PM

I don't know, I bought the first trade but haven't read it yet. The premise, as far as I undertood it, and some recommendations here convinced me to give it a try.

It was alright - I'd say a noble failure.

I only read the first trade, but I brought the first two - second one has annotations for both trades, I just haven't been bothered to sit down and give it another try yet.

I think the sci-fi setting, although based on extensions of the modern day, hurt more than helped the book.

Huh?

04-02-2008, 08:56 AM

I have not bought a monthly in just under a year now, and I am pretty happy with how it has worked out.

I have gone from spending $100-$150 every month on comics to spending roughly $25 every month. I go to B&N to read something when I need a fix, and I buy my trades on Amazon (they are much cheaper than LCS). What I have found is that I really don't need to read so much crap, and I am willing to wait 6 months to read something that is collected.

You have to be careful about how often you go to the comic store though, because it is really tempting when you are in there.

Reptisaurus!

04-02-2008, 09:30 AM

I'm still scarred (and occasionally aroused) from the time my teenaged self got a previews to look through, and the first thing I saw in the latter half was a Fumetti book - The Invisible Man.
Now, they only had a pic of the cover, but from what I can gather, the book mostly contains pictures of the Invisible Man, having sex with women.
Pictures of women pretending to have sex with a man (possibly sequential pictures).
I guess an inventive and lonely person could turn it into one of those 'put yourself in the story' books with a bit of imagination (or photos of them self in corresponding positions).

*Googles*

Oh. A fumetti book is a comic that uses photographs instead of art.

You know I kind of need to see this now, right? And by "need" I mean up there with food and air.

Shellhead

04-02-2008, 09:32 AM

I've never had a pull list, and I don't want to start. I have always enjoyed going to the store to physically look at the comics and decide which comics to buy.

And I just realized something... I think that I have been consistently spending about $20-25 per month on comics since about 1977. Back then, I was buying most of Marvel's monthly titles plus quite a few back issues. By the late '80s, I had mostly switched to DC and independents, and was buying maybe 15 comics a month. Currently, I'm getting 5 or 6 comics a month. The only exception was during the '90s, when a combination of factors caused me to drop to just 2 - 3 comics a month, and then finally stop completely until around 2000.

FunkyGreenJerusalem

04-02-2008, 06:03 PM

*Googles*

Oh. A fumetti book is a comic that uses photographs instead of art.

You just lost your indie nerd cred!

You know I kind of need to see this now, right? And by "need" I mean up there with food and air.

Invisible porn... a new fetish is born.

Here's a cross for all the nerds - The Invisible Man mounts Sue Richards! NSFW!

http://akvis.com/img/examples/sketch/photo-on-sketch/landscape-photo.jpg

Maybe it only really works if one person is still visible...

Paul McEnery

04-02-2008, 06:14 PM

It was alright - I'd say a noble failure.
.

Oh, better than that. It's an interesting failure, and I love those.

And worth it just for the glove puppet imagery. But even more for watching Douglas try to drag a decidedly 70s sensibility into line with his decidely 21st Century philosophy, and his static eternity spirituality in line with a linear narrative, not to mention the "no, really, I'm one of the cool kids, I know Genesis P-Orridge and Grant Morrison, look, I'm hep, I'm happening" dialogue.

Yeah, I love me some schadenfreude. But mostly I think it's a shame there wasn't some more proactive editing on the book to get Douglas more up to speed on the medium. He's got the long and short form essay down pat, but I don't think comics reward the same techniques of literary argument.

Still and all, I'm dead keen to read the last installment. And I think DC really dropped the ball on this in failing to realize this one could be a perennial for the heads and the freaks.

And I hope the team runs away with the project to IDW or somebody.

Paul McEnery

04-02-2008, 06:15 PM

Here's a cross for all the nerds - The Invisible Man mounts Sue Richards! NSFW!

http://akvis.com/img/examples/sketch/photo-on-sketch/landscape-photo.jpg

Maybe it only really works if one person is still visible...

It doesn't help that we can't see through the window.

FunkyGreenJerusalem

04-02-2008, 06:19 PM

It doesn't help that we can't see through the window.

I guess it's like a magic eye or something.. stare long enough and you'll see it.

There's indents in the grass which could be hands and knees...

berk

04-02-2008, 09:26 PM

Well, I finished the Invisibles today, and after seeing how King Mob ends up after the climax of the big adventure I think I understand a little better what Paul was saying in that YABS thread about why Morrison's working with DC, and also perhaps why Morrison didn't have much to say about any possible future independent work in the most recent interview I read.

Next up: the 1st TPB of either The Boys, Planetary, Testament, or Preacher; or maybe City of Silence, or SeaGuy. I've picked up all these TPBs over the last 3 or 4 years since getting back into mainstream comics and have finally stopped dilly-dallying and gotten round to reading them. Might have to take a bit of a break after the Invisibles, though. Pretty intense reading the whole thing over just a couple weeks. I probably need to cleanse the palate with something relatively simple.