View Full Version : Who thinks that Secret Invasion will end with the Death of the Skrulls ?
CMBMOOL
03-31-2008, 01:48 PM
Who here thinks that the Secret Invasion event will end with the Death of the Skrulls and if you do agree with me who do you think would pull the trigger and why ?
StoneGold
03-31-2008, 01:50 PM
Even if it does, there'll be a loophole for them not dying. Same with when they did it to the Kree.
CyberHubbs
03-31-2008, 01:52 PM
We could always tie it into the current Fantastic Four and the Skrulls get Nu-Earth. "We were going to use it, but you know how THAT goes," Reed says sheepishly. "Oh, hey. Here's a killer robot painted like Captain America to go with it."
Skrull: "...what?"
Comet Man
03-31-2008, 02:13 PM
Who here thinks that the Secret Invasion event will end with the Death of the Skrulls and if you do agree with me who do you think would pull the trigger and why ?
I really have no idea what's going to happen, and I'm glad.
I can't wait for the ride, though.
Will.S
03-31-2008, 02:21 PM
I think it'll end with the skrulls acquiring Counter Earth for their new Throneworld.
Hey, it could happen.
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 02:22 PM
genocide is racist
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 02:23 PM
I think it'll end with the skrulls acquiring Counter Earth for their new Throneworld.
Hey, it could happen.
Reed could shrink them down and move them all to Jersey. it wouldn't be the first time that he relocated an entire civilization.
Will.S
03-31-2008, 02:25 PM
Reed could shrink them down and move them all to Jersey. it wouldn't be the first time that he relocated an entire civilization.
Indeed.....
Scott Taylor
03-31-2008, 03:04 PM
Death of the skrulls, maybe. But it wouldn't be by any earther's direct hand. Indirectly, maybe due to some kind of plague they picked up inadvertantly perhaps. But I agree that after this event it will be a while before skrulls can be a factor again.
Secret Identity
03-31-2008, 03:07 PM
Maybe they just give the Skrulls earth and the humans take nu-earth since old earth was gonna die anyways
Tobias Drake
03-31-2008, 03:10 PM
Maybe they just give the Skrulls earth and the humans take nu-earth since old earth was gonna die anyways
That would be awesome; they hold out until just a couple days before Earth dies, then quickly retreat to new Earth, so that the Skrulls take Earth and move in just before it perishes.
LawGiver
03-31-2008, 03:55 PM
We could always tie it into the current Fantastic Four and the Skrulls get Nu-Earth. "We were going to use it, but you know how THAT goes," Reed says sheepishly. "Oh, hey. Here's a killer robot painted like Captain America to go with it."
Skrull: "...what?"
That's not a bad idea.
When the Skrulls invade just have Reed and Co. come out:
Reed: Oh you want the Earth? Well yea, you can have THIS Earth, we were gonna leave anyway.
Skrull: ...whu? Why would you earthlings leave this planet?
Reed: Oh we got a brand new that is perfect in every way. It's sooooooo much better than this Earth.
Skrull: We want that Earth. You keep this one.
Reed: No, no we don't want this one, we want Nu-Earth. See it's even got a super cool retro name.
Skrull: No, I demand you hand over that Nu-Earth or suffer.
Reed: Fine, fine, take it, we'll stay here w/ the crappy Earth.
------------
Skrulls all move to Nu-Earth.
Tony: Ok Reed, hit the self-destruct button. Dumbass Skrulls.
IronKing
03-31-2008, 09:11 PM
I can see them being decimated and reduced to all but a few.
But I doubt they'd completely eradicate the Skrulls. They're classic characters.
jackolover
07-03-2008, 03:43 PM
Since the whole formation of the New Avengers, Captain America had been promising Luke Cage to get to the bottom of who is manipulating them behind the scenes. All through the CW and it's Epilogue, the Initiative, there has been the influence of the Skrulls sullying the integrity of the MU. Nothing has been accomplished, except that somewhere, the Skrulls were involved.
I can't see this ending until Luke Cage stands over the last Skrull and saying, 'Now there's what's been bothering me this whole time, and now it's over', so yeah, I see Luke Cage killing the last Skrull. And if not Luke, then Iron Man roping in Captain America to finish off the Skrulls for Steve Rogers.
Monty_Cristo
07-03-2008, 03:59 PM
Embrace Change
jackolover
07-03-2008, 04:22 PM
Embrace Change
Yeah, I wonder how long that will last. Haven't we seen solicits for Ms Marvel post SI and things are back to normal?
Monty_Cristo
07-03-2008, 04:26 PM
Yeah, I wonder how long that will last. Haven't we seen solicits for Ms Marvel post SI and things are back to normal?
no? ..................................
Shyft
07-03-2008, 04:28 PM
I swear ive read bits and bobs that seem to imply a big change is coming; i think the Skrulls actually reach some sort of tentative victory.
Peeps
07-03-2008, 04:39 PM
i heard that skrulls all gather around a piano in powder wigs and old english costumes singing.....
but you say hes just a friend OH BABY YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
got what i need
but you say hes just a friend
but you say hes just a friend
Secret Invasion is not going to be as big as the crossover from Avengers Annual #14 & Fantastic Four Annual #19:
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/05856107888.14.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/30949298416.19.GIF
This storyline made the Skrulls lose their shapeshifting powers.
And who can forget Fantastic Four #257 when Galactus consumed the Skrull Throneworld with the help of Frankie Raye, Nova, Herald of Galactus?:
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/30929984076.257.GIF
Secret Invasion will be a blip in the Marvel Universe given Quesada's own ability to maintain continuity.
Peeps
07-03-2008, 04:51 PM
seeing those two covers makes me long for yesteryears
Shyft
07-03-2008, 05:16 PM
Secret Invasion is not going to be as big as the crossover from Avengers Annual #14 & Fantastic Four Annual #19:
it will be to those of us who werent alive to read comics in 1985. and to those of us who dont seem to hate everything about modern Marvel comics.
it will be to those of us who werent alive to read comics in 1985. and to those of us who dont seem to hate everything about modern Marvel comics.
It's hard to hate the current Marvel Comics when history & continuity means nothing. Why, just with one word & the omnipotent power of a demon who previously did not possess those same powers, everything can turn back time...to the 1970's. Joe Quesada is a small fish & a forgettable Editor-in-Chief who is more style than substance.
jackolover
07-03-2008, 06:01 PM
no? ..................................
I'll have to check this up later, because I'm at work right now. I'll get back to you.
jackolover
07-03-2008, 06:03 PM
Secret Invasion will be a blip in the Marvel Universe given Quesada's own ability to maintain continuity.
SI doesn't even rate a mention in the BP annual, or the future FF storyline by Millar, when past events were refered too.
Herr Mike
07-03-2008, 06:07 PM
Holy crap the Joe Q hate just doesn't stop. It's extremely tiresome.
Jim Thompson
07-03-2008, 06:14 PM
Secret Invasion is not going to be as big as the crossover from Avengers Annual #14 & Fantastic Four Annual #19:
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/05856107888.14.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/30949298416.19.GIF
This storyline made the Skrulls lose their shapeshifting powers.
And who can forget Fantastic Four #257 when Galactus consumed the Skrull Throneworld with the help of Frankie Raye, Nova, Herald of Galactus?:
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/30929984076.257.GIF
Secret Invasion will be a blip in the Marvel Universe given Quesada's own ability to maintain continuity.Truly, I do find this stuff far more enjoyable than what is happening in the majority of the MU today.
yadadaimhollaing
07-03-2008, 07:46 PM
It's hard to hate the current Marvel Comics when history & continuity means nothing. Why, just with one word & the omnipotent power of a demon who previously did not possess those same powers, everything can turn back time...to the 1970's. Joe Quesada is a small fish & a forgettable Editor-in-Chief who is more style than substance.
This post reeks of awesomeness :biggrin:
And to answer the origional post not a chance the skrulls are eliminated. They'll be battered and bruised but not extinct.
CyberHubbs
07-03-2008, 08:08 PM
This post reeks of awesomeness :biggrin:
And to answer the origional post not a chance the skrulls are eliminated. They'll be battered and bruised but not extinct.
It reeks of something, that's for sure.
Will.S
07-03-2008, 09:19 PM
Secret Invasion is not going to be as big as the crossover from Avengers Annual #14 & Fantastic Four Annual #19:
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/05856107888.14.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/30949298416.19.GIF
This storyline made the Skrulls lose their shapeshifting powers.
And who can forget Fantastic Four #257 when Galactus consumed the Skrull Throneworld with the help of Frankie Raye, Nova, Herald of Galactus?:
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/30929984076.257.GIF
Secret Invasion will be a blip in the Marvel Universe given Quesada's own ability to maintain continuity.
No, I've read those issues and Secret Invasion is definitely bigger than that.
Cthulhudrew
07-03-2008, 09:47 PM
Even if it does, there'll be a loophole for them not dying. Same with when they did it to the Kree.
They never killed off all the Kree. Just most of them.
Michael P
07-03-2008, 09:48 PM
They never killed off all the Kree. Just most of them.
Speaking of which, whatever happened to the Ruul?
Peter F.
07-03-2008, 09:57 PM
Speaking of which, whatever happened to the Ruul?
They got ignored and possibly retconned.
Cthulhudrew
07-03-2008, 10:30 PM
Speaking of which, whatever happened to the Ruul?
Pretty much what Seikun21 said. Which, frankly, is all to the good. The Ruul are not the best of Kurt Busiek and Roger Stern's idea, IMO. In remaking the Kree they essentially remade them into... the Skrulls.
As for the name, I doubt the "Ruul" would have kept using the name after their little ruse was up, and so the notion that they began calling themselves Kree again (especially given their proud history) isn't a huge deal.
The real issue is their evolutionary shapechanging which seemed to vanish without explanation. Peter David (the only writer to actually utilize the Kree in any capacity after Maximum Security) actually acknowledged both the Ruul name and the different features (if not their shapechanging power) in his Captain Marvel run. In the second installment of his CM run, though, they seemed to be back to being normal looking Kree for no reason given (either the artist didn't know better, or else it was decided to sweep it under the carpet).
Probably the best explanation is that when Genis and Entropy reset the universe after killing Eternity, the Kree were reverted back to the form that Genis was most familiar with and the Ruul bits were wiped out.
Flâneur
07-03-2008, 10:46 PM
Hmm, I'm getting the feeling that the Skrulls will be 'decimated' but the remainder will reach some kind of enlightenment, we've seen good skrulls before in Cadre K, Xavin, Jazinda, Replica, Hulking and the Agents of Atlas skrulls etc. and it wouldn't be out of bounds to see this faction reach dominance and reform the species.
CyberHubbs
07-03-2008, 10:55 PM
Hmm, I'm getting the feeling that the Skrulls will be 'decimated' but the remainder will reach some kind of enlightenment, we've seen good skrulls before in Cadre K, Xavin, Jazinda, Replica, Hulking and the Agents of Atlas skrulls etc. and it wouldn't be out of bounds to see this faction reach dominance and reform the species.
The Runaways/Young Avengers tie-in did reveal that Hulkling (Man, he really needs to change that codename!) could subvert Veranke's current rule if his royal heritage gets out to the rest of the Skrull fleet. I do see Teddy accepting his "fate" and leading the Skrulls into a new Age, if you will. Might be even more interesting if the Skrulls decide to remain on Earth, and perhaps get to occupy someplace like, say, Atlantis.
Mr. Earl Brooks
07-04-2008, 09:08 AM
I'd love to see a few months of a Skrull dominated Earth until next March when the next event is that upheaval that kicks them off the planet. ALL the heroes have to go underground.
That will never happen, but it's all good.
What will probably happen is the invasion will be repelled and then afterword the New and/or Mighty Avengers will follow them into space for some space shenanigans.
Nevermind, that probably won't happen either. It's too Illuminati #1ish.
hawkeye comeback
07-04-2008, 01:10 PM
It'll be the Scarlet Witch saying no more skrulls
tlunning
07-04-2008, 09:20 PM
I'd love to see a few months of a Skrull dominated Earth until next March when the next event is that upheaval that kicks them off the planet. ALL the heroes have to go underground.
That will never happen, but it's all good.
Ouh, that would be a trip! I hope there will be some really ruthless Skrull rule. For the duration of Secret Invasion at least. With these things I feel like you have to sorta accept that things will go back to a relative status quo. But what if they win?
Embrace Change! Cryptic!!!
Are the stakes high enough yet for anyone to commit genocide? Agent Brand is sneaking aboard a Skrull ship, what kind of sabotage will she be involved in? Then again, she is more of a diplomat. Will that aspect slow things down?
What do y'all think? Diplomacy or genocide?
mimic_616
07-05-2008, 06:06 AM
You just know that the Kree are gong to pop towards the end of secret invasion and were gonna have another Kree/Skrull war :rolleyes:
Sean Walsh
07-05-2008, 06:48 AM
genocide is racist
Reed could shrink them down and move them all to Jersey. it wouldn't be the first time that he relocated an entire civilization.
I don't know what's worse, really: genocide, or the Garden State... :eek:
CyberCoyote
07-05-2008, 08:41 AM
No, I've read those issues and Secret Invasion is definitely bigger than that.
Bigger because it's stretched out to the Nth degree.. but those stories although not bled for every drop they could get from 'em had the Skrull throneworld destroyed and the entire race locked in their form (does all that not happen while this SI plan is supposedly in effect??)
SI ain't over, can't say what's the more enjoyable story in the end.. but I don't think it's 'bigger' by any means. Earth's been invaded before in the MU. Heck, there were evil duplicates of every hero running around at one time. It just didn't seem that the authors of those stories were so overwhelmed by their skills and abilities at the time :cool:
Bigger because it's stretched out to the Nth degree.. but those stories although not bled for every drop they could get from 'em had the Skrull throneworld destroyed and the entire race locked in their form (does all that not happen while this SI plan is supposedly in effect??)
SI ain't over, can't say what's the more enjoyable story in the end.. but I don't think it's 'bigger' by any means. Earth's been invaded before in the MU. Heck, there were evil duplicates of every hero running around at one time. It just didn't seem that the authors of those stories were so overwhelmed by their skills and abilities at the time :cool:
Agreed. Secret Invasion is being promoted to sell books, but the substance of the fact remains it will have little effect at all given Quesada's tenuous ability to maintain continuity as status quo. I believe nothing can really challenge the destruction of the Skrull Throneworld which set the Skrulls into their own civil war to fill the power vacuum.
Quesada will simply go to next big flashy storyline & forget about Secret Invasion; he seems to have the attention span of a puppy if you look at the comic books he's releasing with his name.
tlunning
07-05-2008, 02:25 PM
Is that really Quesada's fault? We hear about those creator retreats where they plan out events, new stories and the "status quo." I don't mean to be an event-apologist, but we really don't know if Joe Q says "an event every summer! X-books in constant crossover!" It certainly could be more amicable between editors and creators, but really, who knows? It seems like fellas like Bendis and Millar get a lot of lip service and are excited about what they're putting out.
The substance certainly is fleeting. WWH is a story I may well never read again, but it was fun while it lasted! We're talking about a conflict between periodical issues vs trades/graphic novels and big events vs cohesive story which can stand alone as well as fit with a continuity or status quo.
As a fan, I feel torn. I still enjoy reading Marvel comics of course, but there is an underlying cynicism if I need to spend hundreds of dollars and invest months of waiting to understand a storyline.
tlunning
07-05-2008, 02:26 PM
It's definitely an industry-wide problem, it's not just the fault of Joe Quesada, Editor in Chief.
Is that really Quesada's fault? We hear about those creator retreats where they plan out events, new stories and the "status quo." I don't mean to be an event-apologist, but we really don't know if Joe Q says "an event every summer! X-books in constant crossover!" It certainly could be more amicable between editors and creators, but really, who knows? It seems like fellas like Bendis and Millar get a lot of lip service and are excited about what they're putting out.
The substance certainly is fleeting. WWH is a story I may well never read again, but it was fun while it lasted! We're talking about a conflict between periodical issues vs trades/graphic novels and big events vs cohesive story which can stand alone as well as fit with a continuity or status quo.
As a fan, I feel torn. I still enjoy reading Marvel comics of course, but there is an underlying cynicism if I need to spend hundreds of dollars and invest months of waiting to understand a storyline.
Yes, it's Quesada's fault. He's the Editor-in-Chief. The Skrulls had several good storylines after the destruction of the Skrull Throneworld from Fantastic Four #257 such as Fantastic Four Annual #18 (the Skrull & Kree agents fight amongst themselves during the events of Uncanny X-Men #137) while the same Skrull agent discovers the throneworld is dust, Fantastic Four Annual #19 & The Avengers Annual #14 which made the Skrulls lose their shapeshifting powers. This storyline made for other good storylines with the Skrulls trying to find ways to regain their shapeshifting powers in The Silver Surfer (1987). The Super Skrull played a key role on why he returns to Earth in Alpha Flight #9-10 given the destruction of the Skrull Throneworld. Then there's the creation of the Warskrulls from Uncanny X-Men #275-277: Skrulls who can gain the powers of their victims through artificial means.
Mister Fantastic is put on trial for saving Galactus' life from the events of Fantastic Four #242-244 when he gained a new herald, Nova; she lead Galactus to the Skrull Throneworld. Galactus, Uatu, Odin & even Eternity himself come to Reed's defense in Fantastic Four #259-260.
All of these storyline happen on the course of years. Joe Quesada will drop the storyline as soon as its over.
Jake V
07-05-2008, 04:42 PM
Agreed. Secret Invasion is being promoted to sell books, but the substance of the fact remains it will have little effect at all given Quesada's tenuous ability to maintain continuity as status quo. I believe nothing can really challenge the destruction of the Skrull Throneworld which set the Skrulls into their own civil war to fill the power vacuum.
Quesada will simply go to next big flashy storyline & forget about Secret Invasion; he seems to have the attention span of a puppy if you look at the comic books he's releasing with his name.
Every Marvel comic has his name in the credits page, and yes, things happen and change at a pretty rapid pace. Part of Quesada's goal is to show the Marvel universe to be a chaotic and unpredictable place. I'm surprised you didn't know that, given how you stalk the guy, David.
Kid Kamikaze10
07-05-2008, 04:48 PM
Every Marvel comic has his name in the credits page, and yes, things happen and change at a pretty rapid pace. Part of Quesada's goal is to show the Marvel universe to be a chaotic and unpredictable place. I'm surprised you didn't know that, given how you stalk the guy, David.
The problem is that as things happen in a rapid pace, the impact of the past event isn't truly felt. Even Civil War has suffered from this.
So, I agree with DDM to a certain degree.
jackolover
07-05-2008, 08:48 PM
The Skrulls had several good storylines after the destruction of the Skrull Throneworld from Fantastic Four #257 such as Fantastic Four Annual #18 (the Skrull & Kree agents fight amongst themselves during the events of Uncanny X-Men #137) while the same Skrull agent discovers the throneworld is dust, Fantastic Four Annual #19 & The Avengers Annual #14 which made the Skrulls lose their shapeshifting powers. This storyline made for other good storylines with the Skrulls trying to find ways to regain their shapeshifting powers in The Silver Surfer (1987). The Super Skrull played a key role on why he returns to Earth in Alpha Flight #9-10 given the destruction of the Skrull Throneworld. Then there's the creation of the Warskrulls from Uncanny X-Men #275-277: Skrulls who can gain the powers of their victims through artificial means.
Mister Fantastic is put on trial for saving Galactus' life from the events of Fantastic Four #242-244 when he gained a new herald, Nova; she lead Galactus to the Skrull Throneworld. Galactus, Uatu, Odin & even Eternity himself come to Reed's defense in Fantastic Four #259-260.
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I'm still waiting for the stories where we are made to feel sympathy for a few Skrull couples, like we did with Hudlins Black Panthers series. Why couldn't we get a book just on the Skrulls on earth. Settling in, and forming relationships with earthlings, then, when the end comes, and these Skrull couples have to be disposed of, we are torn between killing them, or saving them. That's what I'm ready to see, but nobody is going that tack in this event, so far.
I'm still waiting for the stories where we are made to feel sympathy for a few Skrull couples, like we did with Hudlins Black Panthers series. Why couldn't we get a book just on the Skrulls on earth. Settling in, and forming relationships with earthlings, then, when the end comes, and these Skrull couples have to be disposed of, we are torn between killing them, or saving them. That's what I'm ready to see, but nobody is going that tack in this event, so far.
It could be a subplot in Ms. Marvel, but it has to be something more than just settling on Earth.
Chino
07-06-2008, 10:07 AM
I'm a little late to the party so forgive me if this has been said already...but I personally hope that the Skrulls win. Earth under skrull rule could lead to some very cool stories IMO. Underground heroes and villains vs alien occupiers :biggrin:
Marvel could pull it off but it would have to effect every book in the line and would have to last at very least a full year for it to actually matter.
Jim Thompson
07-06-2008, 10:19 AM
I'm a little late to the party so forgive me if this has been said already...but I personally hope that the Skrulls win. Earth under skrull rule could lead to some very cool stories IMO. Underground heroes and villains vs alien occupiers :biggrin:
Marvel could pull it off but it would have to effect every book in the line and would have to last at very least a full year for it to actually matter.They probably like that sort of idea -- if for no other reason than it sets up next summer's super-companywide, forever changing mega event! :rolleyes:
jackolover
07-07-2008, 12:57 AM
Not sure How Secret Invasion is going to end, but here is a personal impression of what is happening. See what you think.
When you look at the Secret War, you see that it's the first assembly of the New Avengers, just after Disassembled. Not only that, but it was Nick Fury, one of the catapillas, and the New Avengers, (just like the assemblage for the Secret Invasion, in the Savage Land and Times Square).
At this point we hadn't seen any Skrull involvement in Secret War or Disassembled yet. But when you realise Secret War was the precursor to Secret Invasion, you wonder if Skrulls weren't the common link from as far flung as Disassembled, all the way through to SI.
So why would Bendis toy with a Secret Avengers team in Secret War, then, reform that same group almost immediately, (in another involvement of the Skrulls - the Raft breakout), and give Captain America all the ammunition to boast the role of providence taking a hand, when Secret War had already specifically assembled them, without providence, but the cold, hard, selection on Fury's part?
There were 2 occassions when the NA formed, and it was almost like they were pre-ordained occassions. One, without Spiderwoman and Iron Man (Secret War), and the next, with Spiderwoman and Iron Man (NA). Now you are probably wondering what possible reason would there be to reform the Secret Avengers in another guise, but include a Skrull and the next DoS?
The positioning of players, like Electra, Black Bolt, Henry Pym, Valentina, Spiderwoman, Jarvis, and Iron Man across the board of the MU, makes the events like Planet Hulk, and Civil War become manipulations, rather than random incidents, and shortened versions of the Avengers (the NA) were part of that manipulation.
You then wonder what these events (CW and WWH) would advantage the Skrull agenda, until you see that the Raft breakout, and Vibranium mining were preparations to place super villains in the community, that were Skrulls - 14 in fact; and that the stockpiling of Vibranium reduces the chances that anti-Skrull technology could be used to resist the Invasion.
With Skrull agents spread amongst the hero groups, and Skrulls amongst the villains, and anti-Skrull Vibranium removed, the Invasion of earth practically wrote itself.
The only standout incident that gives any disquiet whatsoever is a solitary Skrull shuttle crashlanding in the Savage Land.
What concievable reason could be found for a shipload of Skrull imposter heroes landing in Antarctica, that began the Invasion, in the first place? You wouldn't call it a first strike, because it didn't disable anything strategic. If anything, all you could call it was a casual distraction in a remote location, that could not tieup any forces for any reason, whatsoever.
Yet look what has been achieved. 2 Avengers teams went and met this intruder.
On opening the vehicles hatch, Iron Man was disabled.
On the escape of the imposters, the rest of the Avengers Teams became embroiled in minor skirmishes.
Spiderwoman attacked Echo
And Veranke then insinuated that Tony Stark was a secret agent of the Skrulls, effectively disabling the DoS and rendering SHIELD leaderless.
For such a minor incident, the consequent effect was totally disproportionate, leaving the cities of the world without the frontline protection of SWORD, SHIELD, and the Mighty Avengers, and BONUS!, the New Avengers.
This left the world completely unprotected, and at the mercy of a really minor Invading force, but without the protectors of the world in place, the only safeguards , the Avengers Initiative / FSI forces, were already riddled withSkrull agents, as seen in AI #14, when the Hawaii Avengers were attacked and summararily neutralised, as every FSI team must experience as soon as the Skrull agent attacks.
The Earth was less the victim of an Invasion, but more a victim of an indoctrination, because really, what happened was more a psychological realignment of humans, than an extermination of a species.
It was an ambush, with what looked like our protectors dressed in our uniforms, turning their weapons on the soldiers that should have protected the Earth from internal infiltration. It was the most swift, and complete defeat of humanity in the span of half a day.
All because a man named Tony Stark was conceited enough to decide that Idealistic concepts of global security, instead of local security, were advantageous. The singular force of the Avengers (specifically designed as a group of powerful individuals and independant operatives), was compromised (when because of the Disassembled internal rifts, rent Starks wealth and stature to a new low, and reducing his options for supporting the Avengers as strong as they could be, and settling for a much depowered version in the NA), until post-CW, returned it to the fully serviced and supported strengthened version , once again in the MA. In a sense, the Civil War regained Starks stature and wealth specifically as an Acchilles heel. The Skrulls rained down a specific vendetta against the Illuminati, replacing, or neutralising them in their positions of influence, despite the Illuminatis power.
The destruction of Atlantis and Attalan; the assasination of Reed Richards, the neutralisation of Stark; the distraction of Professor X; and the downfall of Doc Strange, was just as much an affront on the Illuminati, as the WWH was to them.
WWH was just a warmup for the defeat of the Illuminati. When the Hulk broke Stephen Stranges hands and Steve was tempted to conjure demons to fight for him, Doc Strange was forced to leave the MU arena to persue his own redemption for his sins. When Tony was made to experience a world without electrical power, the Skrulls again sapped him in the Savage Land. Reed was forced to stop exercising his incredible brain by the application of the obedience disks, and again when he was stretched flat by the Skrulls (upcoming ). Namor was unaffected by WWH, but was recently killed by his 1940's self recently in Avengers/Invaders. Black Bolt was a Skrull taken sometime yet to be announced. And Professor X lost all credibility entirely.
After this realignment of the Power set in the human species, what resistance was there left to confront the Armada of the Skrulls?
Froggy
07-07-2008, 01:55 AM
We could always tie it into the current Fantastic Four and the Skrulls get Nu-Earth. "We were going to use it, but you know how THAT goes," Reed says sheepishly. "Oh, hey. Here's a killer robot painted like Captain America to go with it."
Skrull: "...what?"
Reed: EARTHPWNED!
Skrulls: OMGWTF:?
overcomebyfumes
07-07-2008, 07:46 AM
Skrulls set up a new throneworld on Earth.
Galactus remembers how tasty Skrulls are and eats new throneworld.
End of Secret Invasion.
That's how I would write it. Galactus started it, he should finish it.
pax.
Shellhead
07-07-2008, 08:06 AM
No, I've read those issues and Secret Invasion is definitely bigger than that.
Whachoo talkin' 'bout Will S?
Secret Invasion is Skrulls invading a single planet. That earlier storyline was about an entire galactic civilization losing the ability to shape-shift. One story is global, the other is galactic. Big size difference, and not one that makes Secret Invasion look impressive in scale. Just because Secret Invasion is going to be decompressed and spread out over more issues doesn't make it a bigger scale story.
Ten bucks says it ends with Skrull Queen or leader of the Invasion or whatever in a dance-off with a resurrected, yet slightly-hipper-this-time-around Steve "Blonde Bombshell" Rogers. With Iron Man laying some phat beats.
At least, that's how I want it to end.
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