View Full Version : Should Midnight Sun join the new Guardians of the Galaxy?
Blade X
03-30-2008, 09:02 PM
I'm a HUGE fan of Midnight Sun and I would like to see him be used more. He's a cool character and one of Marvels very few black (of African descent) cosmic characters. I think he would make a great addition to the new GOTG team. What do you guys think? Should he join the team or remain in limbo?
The Avenging One
03-30-2008, 11:18 PM
I voted yes. The character has great potential.
DaeJi
03-30-2008, 11:22 PM
Too many villains have become heroes in recent years. I would like to see him back, but as a supervillain.
Blade X
03-31-2008, 12:00 AM
Too many villains have become heroes in recent years. I would like to see him back, but as a supervillain.
MS was always a conflicted villain from the very beginning. He pretty much reformed in last appearance in the SILVER SURFER comics. So he hasn't been a villain (or even seen for that matter) in over 15 years.
StoneGold
03-31-2008, 12:14 AM
Too many villains have become heroes in recent years. I would like to see him back, but as a supervillain.
Last we saw him, he had reformed and was hanging with the Inhumans, to see if they could cure him of his being horribly ugly and dead.
Cthulhudrew
03-31-2008, 01:42 AM
Yes, absolutely yes.
In fact, given where we last saw him, I'd like to see him and Star-Thief II (Ditmil Pirvat) both join up with the GotG. They could very easily have gotten to know one another during their mutual time with the Inhumans, and would have had something in common- both from Earth, both not quite fitting in with the Inhumans. They've pretty much been in Limbo ever since they went to the Moon (despite Attilan's popping on and off of that place several times in the intervening years, no less.)
Attilan is the Marvel Universe's equivalent of sending characters off to school in Soap Operas. It's where you shuffle characters away that you don't want hanging around anymore.
freddy1428
03-31-2008, 05:05 AM
I really hope Midnight sun join the guardian of galaxy, I really love thE two fights against the silver surfer, I like his design, but also the character himself, very sad, very charismatic and dark, I really hope Marvel show him again.
marshal99
03-31-2008, 06:11 AM
First , before anything else , Midnight sun should return to earth and beat the living crap out of shang chi since he started off as a villain of shang chi. Then he can join the GOTG. ;)
Expletive Deleted
03-31-2008, 07:16 AM
A guest appearance could be cool, but the team's big enough as it is, I think.
Comet Man
03-31-2008, 07:33 AM
They're protecting the cosmos, and the cosmos is infinite. They should be based somewhere, Titan would be great, live in a big citadel, and have as many members as possible. Sure, not all the members would get the spotlight all the time, but at least it's not like they're in limbo, and I think the potential would be limitless. Nova Corps is gone; the Guardians could fill that void.
I voted yes.
agrich
03-31-2008, 07:47 AM
If they make the team larger, it should be with a member or recurring character who might reduce the chances of the book being cancelled. Silver Surfer or Thanos (yes, yes, he's dead, whatever) spring to mind. Midnight Sun does not.
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 09:05 AM
wow, "midnight sun?" i'm surprised they didn't just call him black sun or something more on-the-nose. is not even space free of racism? next you'll tell me that they have a cosmic being who looks just like Whoopi Goldberg.just kidding.
PamGrierOverdrive
03-31-2008, 09:21 AM
Relax. He was a product of the 70s.
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 09:26 AM
Relax. He was a product of the 70s.
i know. that's why i threw the whoopi joke in there.
Will.S
03-31-2008, 09:34 AM
I'd revamp his costume a bit such as removing those stupid metal plates off of his hands and feet. I think the team is big enough as it is though, they already have Drax and Gamora who are insanely skilled and powerful melee fighters.
PamGrierOverdrive
03-31-2008, 09:55 AM
I'd change his name to Coffee Supernova, and have him be an intergalactic pimp on Bespin.
Blade X
03-31-2008, 10:05 AM
wow, "midnight sun?" i'm surprised they didn't just call him black sun or something more on-the-nose. is not even space free of racism? next you'll tell me that they have a cosmic being who looks just like Whoopi Goldberg.just kidding.
I could be wrong, but I think one of the reasons why his creators gave him the "Midnight" part of his name is because he is supposed to be a ninja like character. Although it's obvious that the creators at that time didn't know that ninjitsu is a Japanese martial art and not a Chinese martial art. Of course it is possible that Fu Manchu had MS and his Si Fan agents trained by an actual Japanese ninja master.
Blade X
03-31-2008, 10:08 AM
If they make the team larger, it should be with a member or recurring character who might reduce the chances of the book being cancelled. Silver Surfer or Thanos (yes, yes, he's dead, whatever) spring to mind. Midnight Sun does not.
I hate to break it to you, but putting SS and Thanos in the book will NOT reduce the chances of this book being canceled.
agrich
03-31-2008, 10:12 AM
I hate to break it to you, but putting SS and Thanos in the book will NOT reduce the chances of this book being canceled.
I realize I could have said "Wolverine" or "Spider-man," but I decided to stick with cosmic characters.
Certainly Silver Surfer's own recent track record disputes the idea he could prevent the book from being cancelled, but nonetheless, I continue to believe that adding two of the most recognizable cosmic characters on a recurring basis at the very least will not hurt. At various points in their histories, Surfer and Thanos have been popular enough to sell books due to their presence. If done properly -- always a big if, I grant you -- that could happen again.
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 11:35 AM
i still think they should build up Delroy Garret. he's more of a blank slate/easier to update imo.
StoneGold
03-31-2008, 12:08 PM
As for MS joining the team, hey, if Abnett and Lanning have an idea for him, sure. He's a cosmic character with a funky look. And martial arts skills powerful enough to annoy the Silver Surfer for a minute or two. And he looks like if Snake Eyes joined a jazz dance troupe.
GalactaSurfer
03-31-2008, 12:43 PM
As for MS joining the team, hey, if Abnett and Lanning have an idea for him, sure. He's a cosmic character with a funky look. And martial arts skills powerful enough to annoy the Silver Surfer for a minute or two. And he looks like if Snake Eyes joined a jazz dance troupe.
lol!
Im surprised no one has posted a pic of Midnight Sun yet :confused:
Although i like the character and all i dont think he should join GotG but i would love it if he made an apperance or 2 or if they do a 3rd installment of Annihilation maybe he can play some sort of roll, after all this event is about dusting off unused cosmic charaters.
StoneGold
03-31-2008, 12:48 PM
lol!
Im surprised no one has posted a pic of Midnight Sun yet :confused:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/MidnightSun01.JPG
Will.S
03-31-2008, 12:55 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/MidnightSun01.JPG
Argh, friggin plates annoy me so.....much.
StoneGold
03-31-2008, 12:57 PM
Argh, friggin plates annoy me so.....much.
Really? I like those. For me, it's the hat and the voluminous cape that I have a love/hate relationship with. Because they are both cool and goofy at the same time. Who the hell wears a fedora in space? Space Indy?
Will.S
03-31-2008, 01:06 PM
Really? I like those. For me, it's the hat and the voluminous cape that I have a love/hate relationship with. Because they are both cool and goofy at the same time. Who the hell wears a fedora in space? Space Indy?
Like it would be cool if he could retract them into his palms or into his feet but it's gotta suck for him do to anything with his hands like make a sandwich or pee.
Dagger
03-31-2008, 01:37 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/MidnightSun01.JPG
WTF. That is all.
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 01:47 PM
the hat and cape are a very strange combination. if he comes back, he needs to look nothing like that.
mightiness
03-31-2008, 01:47 PM
I definitely can live with the discs on his hands and feet but I cannot stand that god awful cape and hat. Let the guy return to being a street level martial artist.
StoneGold
03-31-2008, 01:48 PM
Like it would be cool if he could retract them into his palms or into his feet but it's gotta suck for him do to anything with his hands like make a sandwich or pee.
I don't think he always had them on. I think. It's been a long time since I read the books. But it makes sense from a space martial artist's POV. You can't punch a dude in space, or you'd go flying backwards. Having his propulsion units on his hands and feet would allow him to fight without accidentally sending himself flying into space
StoneGold
03-31-2008, 01:49 PM
the hat and cape are a very strange combination. if he comes back, he needs to look nothing like that.
But I also kind of like him like that. It's an odd combination that is both total crap and genius at the same time. And he'd fit in standing next to the tree and the raccoon.
Zero Hunter
03-31-2008, 02:02 PM
He just needs to change his name to Space Pimp. All he needs is a fly cane to complete that funky outfit.
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 02:08 PM
But I also kind of like him like that. It's an odd combination that is both total crap and genius at the same time. And he'd fit in standing next to the tree and the raccoon.
this is quickly becoming Great Lakes Cosmics.
Comet Man
03-31-2008, 02:10 PM
The hat and cape gotta stay.
It's cool, and weird.
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 02:12 PM
The hat and cape gotta stay.
It's cool, and weird.
and dorky as all get out. is he afraid of getting rained on out in space?
Comet Man
03-31-2008, 02:17 PM
and dorky as all get out.
I disagree. I think it's weird, and cool.
is he afraid of getting rained on out in space?
Maybe.
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 02:18 PM
I disagree. I think it's weird, and cool.
Maybe.
then maybe he should wear a cosmic shower cap.
Comet Man
03-31-2008, 02:20 PM
then maybe he should wear a cosmic shower cap.
Now you're going too far.
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 02:21 PM
Now you're going too far.
you haven't seen too far! he should trade in his hand plates for bath sponges. and his costume should be Mr.Bubbles pink!!
Comet Man
03-31-2008, 02:24 PM
you haven't seen too far! he should trade in his hand plates for bath sponges. and his costume should be Mr.Bubbles pink!!
You have a very fertile imagination.
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 02:27 PM
You have a very fertile imagination.
and my impotence is unmatched!!
Comet Man
03-31-2008, 02:29 PM
and my impotence is unmatched!!
ROFLMAO!!
Glad to see that you're honest, and proud of your little handicap.
Cthulhudrew
03-31-2008, 02:52 PM
Like it would be cool if he could retract them into his palms or into his feet but it's gotta suck for him do to anything with his hands like make a sandwich or pee.
He's kind of undead, so he may not have to eat or pee. :)
I like the look, myself. I can see maybe providing some way of retracting them like you suggest, but otherwise keep both the disks and the hat and cape.
Agent_Torpor
03-31-2008, 03:00 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/MidnightSun01.JPG
Christ, that's him?
**** no. Excuse the french.
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 03:13 PM
he's as goofy looking as that dude with the skiis. why do black characters always have to be the testing ground for bad designs.
Cthulhudrew
03-31-2008, 03:18 PM
why do black characters always have to be the testing ground for bad designs.
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1683/captainultraca0.gif (http://imageshack.us)
^^^^^
Not black.
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 03:49 PM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1683/captainultraca0.gif (http://imageshack.us)
^^^^^
Not black.
if you mixed all of the colors in his costume together....
Blade X
03-31-2008, 05:52 PM
Really? I like those. For me, it's the hat and the voluminous cape that I have a love/hate relationship with. Because they are both cool and goofy at the same time. Who the hell wears a fedora in space? Space Indy?
that's exactly how I feel about the hat and cape. I like the cape, but I'm torn on the hat. On one hand the hat looks kind of unique and some what cool. On the other hand, the hat looks stupid as hell.
Blade X
03-31-2008, 05:53 PM
Like it would be cool if he could retract them into his palms or into his feet but it's gotta suck for him do to anything with his hands like make a sandwich or pee.
I like the discs, but I also agree with you that he should be able to retract into his palms and feet.
Blade X
03-31-2008, 06:08 PM
he's as goofy looking as that dude with the skiis. why do black characters always have to be the testing ground for bad designs.
I disagree. I have seen far worse costume designs for black characters then this costume for MS. Take away the cape and the hat, and MS looks like a more streamlined version of Snake Eyes.
Speaking of Snake Eyes, it should be noted that MS appeared about 8-10 years before SE did. And he was doing the whole scarred silent ninja master thing before SE.
StoneGold
03-31-2008, 06:08 PM
that's exactly how I feel about the hat and cape. I like the cape, but I'm torn on the hat. On one hand the hat looks kind of unique and some what cool. On the other hand, the hat looks stupid as hell.
I think you'd still need to tweak the cape. At least the collar. It looks too much like if there was an issue of Dr. Strange if he became a private eye ninja.
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 07:22 PM
I disagree. I have seen far worse costume designs for black characters then this costume for MS. Take away the cape and the hat, and MS looks like a more streamlined version of Snake Eyes.
that's not disagreeing with me.
firstnovaprime
03-31-2008, 08:09 PM
I still wish Nova would join them. But it would be interesting if the Guardians
get involved with the Skrull invasion, and Ultra-girl decides to join them, seeing that she is Kree, and SHRA is stupid as hell.
firstnovaprime
03-31-2008, 08:12 PM
I still wish Nova would join them. But it would be interesting if the Guardians
get involved with the Skrull invasion. Both Justice because he ends up in
space in the future and Ultra-girl because she is Kree join them, and because
the SHRA is stupid as hell.
Monty_Cristo
03-31-2008, 08:28 PM
I still wish Nova would join them. But it would be interesting if the Guardians
get involved with the Skrull invasion, and Ultra-girl decides to join them, seeing that she is Kree, and SHRA is stupid as hell.
i think it's more likely that Ultra-Girl is loyal to the Initiative and spying on the other former New Warriors. the girl has been leading the junior guardsmen afterall. plus, i could easily see her teaming up with Triathlon (the skrull hunter) during the invasion.
Blade X
03-31-2008, 11:42 PM
that's not disagreeing with me.
I was actually disagreeing with the part of your post where you said that MS costume looked as goofy as the Black Racer's (or Door Man's) costume.
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