The Batman WB Kids Series CANCELLED! [Archive]

TMM Writes Lego

03-28-2008, 02:46 PM

The Kids WB animated tv show, The Batman was cancled two weeks ago. I don't know if anybody cares, because it wasn't really known to be the best series on CBR. The last episode was Lost Heroes, an offical The Batman movie. Well, there probaly will be a better one coming up, maybe a new Justice League or an animie Batman series, like the one in Child of Dreams(I pray for a animie Batman series)

I am just guessing but--
***Since there was a Justice League at the end of the series, they will probaly come back with the same cast and get new suits, I really hope they will.

ShAdOwgHoST

03-28-2008, 04:17 PM

damn, that's too bad. I enjoyed it whenever I woke up early enough to catch it.

Sean Whitmore

03-28-2008, 04:24 PM

Kinda old news, but yeah, it's over. Impressive run, though, with five seasons.

SEAN

TMM Writes Lego

03-28-2008, 04:28 PM

Kinda old news, but yeah, it's over. Impressive run, though, with five seasons.

SEAN
Do you remember me? I use to be Legionair:D

PamGrierOverdrive

03-28-2008, 04:44 PM

This series was awful.

Rattlehead

03-28-2008, 04:49 PM

Last season was a vast improvement, but too little to late. I think Kid's WB being dissolved has more to do with this than it is an indictement of the quality of the show.

vazel

03-28-2008, 04:55 PM

Good riddance. Although there's no denying the series was a success when it came to ratings and merchandising unfortunately.

TMM Writes Lego

03-28-2008, 05:02 PM

4th season was the best. I watched it for fun at season 5

Mia

03-28-2008, 05:42 PM

I liked the first two seasons. But I became turned off when they added the kids, and stopped watching.

HeckBoy

03-28-2008, 06:10 PM

Kinda old news, but yeah, it's over. Impressive run, though, with five seasons.

SEANWow, that long already? I vaguely remember watching one of the first episodes hoping it would be like some of the stuff from the Timm-verse. Needless to say, I was sorely disappointed and that was the first and last time I bothered with that series. Then again, this series was definitely geared toward the younger, Saturday morning cartoon type audience so I shouldn't be surprised. I guess it's just a bit disappointing to see how bland today's cartoons are (not to mention the horrible art) when you compare it to the heyday of the Timm-verse Batman/Superman/Beyond as well as Marvel's X-Men and Spider-man.

Froggy

03-28-2008, 06:21 PM

Kinda old news, but yeah, it's over. Impressive run, though, with five seasons.

SEAN

the last episode was great too

Sean Whitmore

03-28-2008, 08:06 PM

I guess it's just a bit disappointing to see how bland today's cartoons are (not to mention the horrible art) when you compare it to the heyday of the Timm-verse Batman/Superman/Beyond as well as Marvel's X-Men and Spider-man.

I wouldn't include Spider-Man and X-Men in any discussion about the heyday of comic toons. They were both standard, middling Saturday-morning fare.

SEAN

vazel

03-28-2008, 08:23 PM

I wouldn't include Spider-Man and X-Men in any discussion about the heyday of comic toons. They were both standard, middling Saturday-morning fare.

SEAN
Are you kidding? X-Men was the finest example of strong continuity in an American animated series and being faithful to its source. Spider-Man also but to a lesser extent.

mattx110

03-28-2008, 08:23 PM

I wouldn't include Spider-Man and X-Men in any discussion about the heyday of comic toons. They were both standard, middling Saturday-morning fare.

SEAN
Gargoyles totally owned 'em!

Sean Whitmore

03-28-2008, 08:33 PM

Are you kidding? X-Men was the finest example of strong continuity in an American animated series and being faithful to its source. Spider-Man also but to a lesser extent.

Continuity between a boring episode in the first season and a boring episode in the third season doesn't thrill me.

They were fine for what they were; bog-standard Saturday morning cartoons. No better or worse than Ninja Turtles or Xiaolin Showdown or most of the current shows that adults decry nowadays.

SEAN

vazel

03-28-2008, 08:34 PM

We must've watched different shows.

Greg Anderson

03-29-2008, 09:26 AM

Yeah, I'm disappointed that the show ended. I used to be one of the biggest bashers when it started out but eventually the episodes started to become really good. Especially the first episode with Robin. One of the best and the Black Mask episode was really great too. The best episodes overall usually had to do with the Riddler and the Joker became a blast having around.

I think people judged it too much because of the Batman series before. Once you got used to this show it was in fact quite entertaining. Heck, now I could watch the earlier episodes of the show and enjoy it.

HaroldAllnut

03-29-2008, 04:26 PM

damn, that's too bad. I enjoyed it whenever I woke up early enough to catch it.

Same here. Damn it.

rick

03-29-2008, 04:32 PM

The Batman was not the worst cartoon ever, and in fact it wasn’t even the worst Batman cartoon. But coming on the air so soon after the end of the classic Timm series of DC toons, the new series just couldn’t compare quality wise and most fans really held that against it.

I won’t care one way or another about it being gone, but I’ll tell you what, I saw someone suggest an Anime Batman series, and I have got to say that in my own, not so humble opinion, that sounds like a really terrible idea for a series.

Of course I’m not a real Anime fan to begin with, but still, Robin with big eyes and upskirt shots of Batgirl just don't seem right to me.

the-wolf

03-29-2008, 06:35 PM

I demand a CGI version Batman along the lines of Starship Troopers.

Starba

03-29-2008, 11:29 PM

Normally I would have liked The Batman for what it was, but I thought it was seriously lacking in soul and risk. I also thought a lot of the "humor" was mean-spirited. Good riddance.

Sean Whitmore

03-30-2008, 12:23 AM

I also thought a lot of the "humor" was mean-spirited.

How was the humor "mean-spirited"?

SEAN

ZT4

03-30-2008, 03:53 AM

Normally I would have liked The Batman for what it was, but I thought it was seriously lacking in soul and risk. I also thought a lot of the "humor" was mean-spirited. Good riddance.

The best comedy is mean-spirited.

Lacking in soul and risk? You clearly havent watched any of the series at all, especially season four, which had some of the darkest episodes of any Batman series

The Batman

03-30-2008, 07:08 AM

The best comedy is mean-spirited.

Lacking in soul and risk? You clearly havent watched any of the series at all, especially season four, which had some of the darkest episodes of any Batman series

I thought season four was a vast improvement over earlier seasons and was when an alright though great looking Batman cartoon got really enjoyable but some of the darkest episodes of any Batman series?

You're thinking the zombie episode aren't you?

Nics23

03-30-2008, 09:01 AM

did enjoy the show. Not as good as the 90a Batman but if you just watch it as a standalone show without comparing the two it was pretty good. I love the JL in it int the last season. I would love to see them do a JL show with that lineup.

sir_snikt'alot

03-30-2008, 09:37 AM

it sucked,they made the joker a monkey man with stupid childish plans,the riddler was a boring marylin manson lookalike and every other episode was about lame assed clay face or the penguin,who for some reason was able to beat batman with two stupid anime ninja women and birds.

as for batman he was like every other fake american anime rip-off character,he didnt do any detective work or use his intelligence,he just backflipped and twirled everywhere like he was in naruto,it was terrible! and character wise he was far to chirpy and smiley for someone who was fighting a war on crime to avenge his family's death!

bruce timm series-classic

the batman-over stylish movie cash in tosh.

The Xenos

03-30-2008, 10:21 AM

I have to admit I never bothered with the show. Yes, it was not fair that fans shunned it just because they compared it to the 90s and 00s toons. Then again, I don't think it was fair to fans that the JLU and Batman TAS were junked by AOL Time Warner in favor of this new cartoon.

I won’t care one way or another about it being gone, but I’ll tell you what, I saw someone suggest an Anime Batman series, and I have got to say that in my own, not so humble opinion, that sounds like a really terrible idea for a series.

Of course I’m not a real Anime fan to begin with, but still, Robin with big eyes and upskirt shots of Batgirl just don't seem right to me.

Way to judge a whole country's output by a bunch of stereotypes. Funny, we used to say the Japanese were slanty eyed. Now the stereotype is to call their cartoons big eyed.

Though maybe the upskirt comment is right. Japan does love its panties.

rick

03-30-2008, 10:26 AM

Way to judge a whole country's output by a bunch of stereotypes. Funny, we used to say the Japanese were slanty eyed. Now the stereotype is to call their cartoons big eyed.

Though maybe the upskirt comment is right. Japan does love its panties.

Anime characters do have big eyes, but hey, who doesn't love panties.

As for my view on anime, without getting into a big argument about styles and genres, I'll just say that after all these years the only anime that I have managed to enjoy was Astroboy and that was back in the 60's when I was around 8.

The visual language of anime is just not my cup of tea.

AndersonT

03-30-2008, 02:33 PM

Way to judge a whole country's output by a bunch of stereotypes. Funny, we used to say the Japanese were slanty eyed. Now the stereotype is to call their cartoons big eyed.

I don't see what 'rick' said, as being racist, why do you? Perhaps uninformed of the many styles of animation available in Japan, but certainly not racist. :/

Back on topic: The Batman is running on Boomerang...every night of the week. :confused: I think it's on after Justice League, which isn't helping me in terms of accepting it. I guess I'm so used to the Timm version, it's hard to accept much anything else. As someone suggested above, perhaps if there were more time between airings of the series'?

Sean Whitmore

03-30-2008, 02:35 PM

I don't see what 'rick' said, as being racist, why do you?

It feeds into his need to be self-righteous about something.

SEAN

vazel

03-30-2008, 02:35 PM

Even if it weren't for the '90s Batman:TAS The Batman would still suck. It's not Timm's fault The Batman has bad writing.

And yes I know The Batman is meant for kids and some of you approach it in a cheap popcorn fun kind of way but there is no reason it can't be enjoyable for the older crowds without insulting their intelligence. Many animated series in the '90s proved as much.

ZT4

03-30-2008, 03:00 PM

Even if it weren't for the '90s Batman:TAS The Batman would still suck. It's not Timm's fault The Batman has bad writing.

The Batman may never be as memorable as the almighty (and in season three' case, hopelessly overrated), Batman: TAS, but when it was good, it was up there with anything Timm did. Greg Wiesman wrote for the first two seasons, and the DCAU team took over for season four. If you're calling The Batman s*it, you're calling your heroes of the DCAU s*it.

And yes I know The Batman is meant for kids and some of you approach it in a cheap popcorn fun kind of way but there is no reason it can't be enjoyable for the older crowds without insulting their intelligence.

...Wow, you SERIOUSLY didnt watch seasons two and four...

I thought season four was a vast improvement over earlier seasons and was when an alright though great looking Batman cartoon got really enjoyable but some of the darkest episodes of any Batman series?

You're thinking the zombie episode aren't you?

You dont get much darker than smacking Batgirl over the head with a wrench and killing everyone with nerve gas before your own son's death makes you realize your crime and you prevent it from happening (Seconds)

But "Strange New World" is as much a highlight as any

But let the DCAU veterans moan and whine. Like most unobjective nostalgia-blind freaks, theyll never be diverse enough to enjoy anything except what THEY watched at a young age, and that's not only typical, it's pathetic

Sean Whitmore

03-30-2008, 03:04 PM

there is no reason it can't be enjoyable for the older crowds without insulting their intelligence.

Maybe your intelligence is just thin-skinned. Plenty of adults (some right here in this thread) weren't insulted by it.

SEAN

ZT4

03-30-2008, 03:07 PM

the batman-over stylish movie cash in tosh.

Batman: TAS was created to cash in on Batman Returns

The New Batman Adventures was commisioned to cash in on Batman and Robin

MAN, you people need an education...

mattx110

03-30-2008, 03:16 PM

It feeds into his need to be self-righteous about something.

SEAN
The best anime, sadly, is atypical of the rest. Same probably stands for American and European cartoons too.

And TAS threw Barbara off a building onto her father's car with a crash and a few cracks.

Hitting someone with a wrench?

HA!

mattx110

03-30-2008, 03:16 PM

Batman: TAS was created to cash in on Batman Returns

The New Batman Adventures was commisioned to cash in on Batman and Robin

MAN, you people need an education...
"you people"... That sounds a bit racist...

Froggy

03-30-2008, 03:55 PM

Baron Banter

03-30-2008, 05:34 PM

Shame this show suffers because the CW decides to do things on the cheap the way Fox did and license out the cartoon division. And worse to the same company.

This, The Legion, and Spider-man were pretty good. I also liked the one episode that I saw of the new Tom and Jerry show that started at like 8:30. But then I'm weird and like funny animal comics too...

Greg Anderson

03-30-2008, 05:35 PM

forget what everyone else says. call it "Teh crapman" if you will..I thought it was anice series

season one was alright, not that many episodes interested me, the dracula movie neither, but as it progressed i grew to like it

When The Batman vs Dracula movie came out, I was bashing the series as I found it crap at the time. But the Batman/Dracula movie was fantastic. I seriously wasn't expecting it to be any good. And I loved Joker in it. Just when you thought you couldn't make him any more crazier in the show, Dracula turns him and Joker proves you wrong on how crazy they could make him.

Froggy

03-31-2008, 01:40 AM

When The Batman vs Dracula movie came out, I was bashing the series as I found it crap at the time. But the Batman/Dracula movie was fantastic. I seriously wasn't expecting it to be any good. And I loved Joker in it. Just when you thought you couldn't make him any more crazier in the show, Dracula turns him and Joker proves you wrong on how crazy they could make him. i'll admit that part was cool

that and i'm awtching episodes i never got to see the end of on youtube

like Strange New World

AndersonT

03-31-2008, 10:33 AM

It feeds into his need to be self-righteous about something.

Ah, gotcha. :confused:

Originally Posted by ZT4 View Post
Batman: TAS was created to cash in on Batman Returns

The New Batman Adventures was commisioned to cash in on Batman and Robin

MAN, you people need an education...

"you people"... That sounds a bit racist...

That's pretty funny.

I think The Batman lost it for me when they changed the Clayface origin. The only saving grace for me, as a fan of 'Anime', was the bishie Riddler they brought in. Oh, and the Bat-Wave, that didn't work for me either. :/

Volume11

03-31-2008, 10:56 AM

BYC

03-31-2008, 11:27 AM

Robin with big eyes

I prefer the term...ocular gigantism.

The Batman

03-31-2008, 11:31 AM

You dont get much darker than smacking Batgirl over the head with a wrench and killing everyone with nerve gas before your own son's death makes you realize your crime and you prevent it from happening (Seconds)

But "Strange New World" is as much a highlight as any

But let the DCAU veterans moan and whine. Like most unobjective nostalgia-blind freaks, theyll never be diverse enough to enjoy anything except what THEY watched at a young age, and that's not only typical, it's pathetic

Well throwing Batgirl off a building is darker than whacking her with a wrench but yeah that was a great episode. The Miller geek in me loved the DKR nod that season too. What makes "Seconds" work is the whole bit about taking responsibility for the consequences of our actions and recognizing the true causes of our problems. That was a great episode comparable to anything in the TAS run.

The Batman vs. Dracula movie was surprisingly good too because up until that point the series had been visually engaging and the animation had a nice dynamic quality to it, but storywise it left alot to be desired. Only with the DVD movie, the last bits of season three and then seasons four and five do I think we got to the quality you're talking about.

sir_snikt'alot

03-31-2008, 12:11 PM

hate crime!!

and how can the batman be a cash in of batman and robin when batman and robin is from the 90's and batman begins came out,what,2005? makes more sense for it to be connected to batman begins dont you think.

filthysize

03-31-2008, 02:02 PM

Sean Whitmore

03-31-2008, 02:46 PM

and how can the batman be a cash in of batman and robin when batman and robin is from the 90's and batman begins came out,what,2005? makes more sense for it to be connected to batman begins dont you think.

B:TAS was inspired by the Burton movies as the change to New Adventures of Batman and Robin was inspired by Schumacher as The Batman was inspired by Begins.

SEAN

Mon-el

03-31-2008, 06:02 PM

My experience with The Batman, and I didn't even know the show was cancelled until this thread.

I watched a couple of the shows (maybe 1-2) the most the first season. My time is very limited and waking up early on Saturday mornings is not a luxury for me. I would occassionally go through CBR Film boards and see what the general comic reading audience thought of it. Boy was that a mistake. I read pages and pages of fans heated about it with disgust. Generally from posters that I didn't quite see Eye to Eye on things, after occassionally going back to that thread I eventually gave up to see if those fans would generate change in actually liking it.

Then My older Brother gave me Seasons 1-3 on dvd(because he had liked it, and he's 46). The first two seasons was just average for my taste. No better, no worse than what was it was. Season 3 really clicked with me right away though. I found myself actually enjoying it with each new episode. I think with the inclusion of Batgirl the show began to really gain intrest with me. So that made me go out and buy Season 4 on dvd when it was released and I found that Season 4 was even better than Season 3. Then when Legion came on I actually found myself actually only getting a few hours of sleep and getting up to actually watching cartoons on Saturday mornings(something that I haven't done in a couple of decades).

I caught most of the Season 5 when time allowed. I found the team-up's with the Justice League to be quite remarkable. I watched the season ending movie only a couple of weeks ago as it was recorded by a friend of mine.

So I really enjoyed the show from season 3 on.

The Xenos

03-31-2008, 08:28 PM

B:TAS was inspired by the Burton movies as the change to New Adventures of Batman and Robin was inspired by Schumacher as The Batman was inspired by Begins.

And Family Guy invented the song Rock Lobster. Is it fun living in the backwards time universe?

Batman Begins came out after The Batman. The only similarity is that they both feature Batman early in his career. Begins is very realistic and The Batman is very cartoony. Even the old cartoon was less of a cartoon and more realistic. It also didn't have Bat-tech or whatever that failed toyline was worked into the cartoon, but that's just another complaint.

I check out some of The Batman during its first season and I just didn't care for it. I didn't like changes, not just from the previous series, but from the books. Even if it got better late on, it was too little too late.

Oh and the changes in the new series were not due to Batman & Robin. The animation and designs were redone to make for easier animation. Plus the Superman had been a bit more stylized and streamlined already, so part of that helped matched the Superman toon too.

I don't think it was even called New Adventures of Batman and Robin. They did that even before the animation change. That, the title change, may have been due to the horrible Shumacher movie. Though it might have also been just because they wanted to focus more on Robin and make it seem more kid friendly.

There's an amazing behind the scenes book called Batman: Animated (http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Animated-Paul-Dini/dp/006107327X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207017159&sr=1-1). It covers the development of both the original show and the redesigned later seasons.

Sean Whitmore

03-31-2008, 08:35 PM

Batman Begins came out after The Batman.

That's right, I forgot Begins was conceived of, written, shot, and released all in 2005.

I don't think it was even called New Adventures of Batman and Robin. They did that even before the animation change. That, the title change, may have been due to the horrible Shumacher movie.

Yeah, I know. That was what I was referring to.

Though it might have also been just because they wanted to focus more on Robin and make it seem more kid friendly.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

SEAN

The Xenos

03-31-2008, 08:38 PM

I caught most of the Season 5 when time allowed. I found the team-up's with the Justice League to be quite remarkable. I watched the season ending movie only a couple of weeks ago as it was recorded by a friend of mine.

Have you seen any of the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited toon? Those were remarkable too. It baffles me that Warners put two shows with the same characters competing against each other and stepping on each others feet.

Actually, three shows if you count Teen Titans. Here you have three shows using the same damn characters. None of the creators are working together. They keep blocking each other because their parent company won't let each other use certain characters. It's asinine.

Personally, among these three shows, Justice League was the best. On that show they were forbidden from using Batman villains due to The Batman. Meanwhile The Batman had to not use Robin early on due to Teen Titans.

What an ass backwards way to run a company and use their characters. Then again their live action films are an even bigger mess somehow.

Greg Anderson

03-31-2008, 09:11 PM

I seriously do not see the purpose of that. That stupid Bat-embargo crud. From what I remember, Scarecrow couldn't be used on The Batman because he was suppose to be in Batman Begins and I read somewhere that there were a few characters from Teen Titans that they wanted to put on JL but couldn't, etc. Once again, I don't see the whole purpose of that whole thing.

Astonishing X-Fan

03-31-2008, 10:18 PM

While the show was okay, BTAS and JLU blow it away. The Timmverse should still be here in some way. The Batman certainly did have it's moments of greatness, though.

But I think WB/DC is stupid with their whole "we can't have the same character on two different shows!" mentality.

ZT4

04-01-2008, 03:39 AM

Since I'm white, I have the right to restate that as "you crackers need an education";)

Starba

04-01-2008, 09:41 AM

The best comedy is mean-spirited.

Yeah...that's a matter of taste.

Lacking in soul and risk? You clearly havent watched any of the series at all, especially season four, which had some of the darkest episodes of any Batman series

Oi.

As a matter of fact, I went out of my way to watch every episode of the first 3 seasons of the show (and the Dracula movie) to give it a chance. And then I watched some season 4 episodes on the recommendations of some of my friends. I never felt compelled to go back to watch a single episode twice, and a lot of the time I had to fight the urge to fastforward through the filler in every episode.

The show was slick, I'll give it that. It was a well-produced, episodic, cartoon. The fangirl in me even found the premise behind several episodes, like Batman's visit to the Joker's brain, quite promising.

The empty husk of the cartoon still creeped me out more than a crazy vampire in a blood bank ever could, though. I couldn't tell you a specific scene or episode, really, as pretty much all the seasons I saw made me feel unfulfilled. I don't think a couple of scenes about the Justice League or Batgirl getting hit by a wrench (yay?) is going to change that.

vazel

04-01-2008, 11:00 AM

Well I watched five episodes from Season 5 wondering if the series did get better but nope, sorry it's just as bad as ever. I did see Alan Burnett as producer in the credits so I had hope. Maybe it's too much for him without Bruce Timm and Paul Dini(writing one episode for Season 4 doesn't count) or it's the higher ups mandating things that are the ones responsible for the quality of the series. The series is just too childish. And the generic music is horrible, it doesn't set the mood at all. I also don't like the voice actor for Batman.

colossus34

04-01-2008, 11:11 AM

Good RIDDANCE to bad garbage....everything in the show was awful. I watched episodes form every season trying to give them a chance but everything form the poor music choices, to weak voice acting, childish plots, and lame characterizations made this one of the worst modern interpretations of Batman in any medium. Now that's the truth.

David Walton

04-01-2008, 11:35 AM

Continuity between a boring episode in the first season and a boring episode in the third season doesn't thrill me.

They were fine for what they were; bog-standard Saturday morning cartoons. No better or worse than Ninja Turtles or Xiaolin Showdown or most of the current shows that adults decry nowadays.

SEAN

In hindsight, the really annoying thing about the Marvel Fox cartoons was the pacing. The Spider-Man series especially was like one reaaaaaaaaaaaaally long episode. While it's okay to have events play off one another, it's nice to have some quiet self-contained episodes for contrast...

And "The Batman" has had that.

Bat-Reader

04-01-2008, 11:36 AM

Good, it was a piece of crap.

Mon-el

04-01-2008, 11:55 AM

Have you seen any of the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited toon? Those were remarkable too.

Yes, I have seen and own every Justice League and JLU, and Batman Beyond 3 seasons, Batman the animated series all 4 volumes, Superman the Animated Series, all the animated movies,Superfriends Vol 1 Challenge of the Superfriends,Superfriends Vol 2 Challenge of the Supefriends, Superfriends the 1 hour episodes,The Super Powers team Galatic Guardians, Superfriends The Legendary Super Powers show, Scooby Doo meets Batman, Dc The New Frontier, The New Adventures with Batman (1977 with Bat-Mite)............actually the short list of it all I own everything that Dc has produced to the video market and a short list of things that hasnt even been released yet. And basically it's all irrelevant because it's bascially apples and oranges when talking about The Batman. I do not wish to get into a debate about comparing and contrasting shows.

The Xenos --- I do not wish any rude or any will feellings on the subject, but I must confess that you have been on my ignore list for years. You are one of the people that I was referring to that I will never see eye to eye with. First it started out about Identity Crisis(a touchy subject around CBR,especially to this day, it caused forum wars, people still in bitter disagreeement about) you admitted reading the comic (admitting to not buying them because of your disgust) and then you rush right home to make 400 posts on why you hated and you have continued to do so for years on here. The next thing you would do would be bash DC constantly over the years. For every post about HUSH, Jason Todd, Judd Winick, Anime and Manga and varying degrees, you sounded like a broken record repeating the same spills and rants over and over again. I have read hundreds, maybe thousands, of your posts over the years(As I used to read every thread in CBR, yes that counts YABS too). Every now and then I would read your posts from time to time to see if you have changed.

You have not.

1 season of The Batman? and it was too little too late?

Again, I mean no ill feelings towards you. I just think we are at the opposite side of the spectrum when discussing comics/cartoons and the such. It's not a bad thing per se. It is just that we basically disagree alot differently. I tend to lump you in the class of "90's" kid.

MattXG

04-01-2008, 11:24 PM

The Spider-Man cartoon became REALLY good to me with the Venom story.

Still my favorite version of Venom to this day. :D

Also, I'd like to see another Batman series set in the modern Batman comics setting and involving the whole Bat family (Tim Drake Robin, Jason Todd Red Robin, NightWing, Catwoman, Cass Cain Batgirl, Oracle, Huntress, Black Canary ect..)

Den

04-02-2008, 08:06 PM

I gave the first few episodes a shot, and didn't like it. It just didn't hold a candle to Batman:tAS or JLU.

Glad to hear it improved, but I didn't have the patience to wait for it to do so.

The Sharpshooter

04-02-2008, 10:01 PM

Personally I found the first season great. Then Robin came. I dont' know, maybe I just hate whiny preteen sidekicks or something, but as soon as Robin the Boy freakin' wonder showed up I hated the whole thing.

TMM Writes Lego

04-06-2008, 04:45 PM

TMM Writes Lego

04-06-2008, 04:48 PM

the episode with black mask was my fav, it talked more about gcpd. I really wish they would come out with a show based all on gcpd. If any animater producers are reading this please make this into a series and on wb too! please i am waiting!!!

TMM Writes Lego

04-06-2008, 04:49 PM

B:TAS was inspired by the Burton movies as the change to New Adventures of Batman and Robin was inspired by Schumacher as The Batman was inspired by Begins.
SEAN
yeah, i thought that too.

Sean Whitmore

04-06-2008, 04:58 PM

I always wondered why no Two-Face.

I figure Scarecrow and Ra's were off limits because of the movie, but it couldn't have been the same deal with Dent could it? I mean, they used Joker.

SEAN

TMM Writes Lego

04-06-2008, 05:12 PM

I always wondered why no Two-Face.

I figure Scarecrow and Ra's were off limits because of the movie, but it couldn't have been the same deal with Dent could it? I mean, they used Joker. SEAN
On a commentary they said they were only expanding the Batman family so that is kinda getting me the impression for another batman series like how bruce timm did that with batman tas and then batman tnas. I didn't really like the first season of batman tas, robin came in way way to fast, just saying

Sean Whitmore

04-06-2008, 05:17 PM

Funny thing about TAS is Robin was already semi-retired the first time we saw him. He was in college, and by his own admission, didn't get to fight crime as much.

Of course, this was before it was mandated that Robin be in every episode. I can only imagine how his grades suffered that year.

SEAN

The Xenos

04-06-2008, 10:16 PM

It could be worse.. it could be that new Brave and the Bold cartoon

Greg Anderson

04-08-2008, 01:26 PM

mosdef

04-09-2008, 02:07 PM

Mia

04-09-2008, 05:34 PM

What about Batgirl? She was introduced before Robin. I couldn't stand the eps with her.

Tell me about it! I really had to wonder if I was watching Batman or the cartoon version of Veronica Mars. And I too found Robin/Dick Grayson obnoxious.

TMM Writes Lego

04-13-2008, 05:48 PM

Here are some pictures of what a future hush, tim drake, and batman would look like, its fake though

The Xenos

04-13-2008, 08:48 PM

What about Batgirl? She was introduced before Robin. I couldn't stand the eps with her.

And she looked like the one from the 60s Batman show. Now I love Yvonne Craig. Crap, watching reruns of that as a kid likely gave me a thing for redheads. Still, we didn't need to revisit that old costume design.

Tell me about it! I really had to wonder if I was watching Batman or the cartoon version of Veronica Mars.
Wait... no way The Batman was that good. Also.. Whose bus do I have to blow up to get a cartoon version of Veronica Mars?