View Full Version : Secret Invasion #1 *Prologue & Preview & Webisode*
Magneto Rocks
03-25-2008, 05:23 PM
Secret Invasion Prologue on Marvel.com (http://www.marvel.com/digitalcomics/titles/Secret_Invasion_Prologue.2008.1)
8-Page Secret Invasion Preview on EW.com (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20185202,00.html)
Watch the Secret Invasion Animated Webisode on Marvel.com (http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.2983)
Not clear whether it's a short prologue issue (Though I'm 70% sure of it) or the first few pages of SI #1. (Seems a bit too low key, and the type of details Bendis promised for the tie-ins.)
Regardless, SPOILERS- a Skrull is revealed therein!
*Spoilers*
So that would mean every appearance of Dugan since Cap #25 has been a Skrull? Damn, that ruins a LOT of good interaction over in Iron Man!
CMBMOOL
03-25-2008, 05:32 PM
http://www.marvel.com/digitalcomics/titles/Secret_Invasion_Prologue.2008.1
Not clear whether it's a short prologue issue (Though I'm 70% sure of it) or the first few pages of SI #1. (Seems a bit too low key, and the type of details Bendis promised for the tie-ins.)
Regardless, SPOILERS- a Skrull is revealed therein!
*Spoilers*
So that would mean every appearance of Dugan since Cap #25 has been a Skrull? Damn, that ruins a LOT of good interaction over in Iron Man!
You got right. :(
Makes sense. Supporting characters are ideal skrull candidates.
Magneto Rocks
03-25-2008, 05:41 PM
Spoilers, obviously:
Wait, doesn't this mean that a SKRULL was in possession of a way to send ALL OF NEW YORK into the Negative Zone and destroy it in World War Hulk?
Hmmm.... This could go 2 ways. Either
A) That's a very stupid Skrull, OR....
B) There's been some really nice continuity matcing and that's how the Skrulls transport the Baxter Building into the Negative Zone for SI: FF. In which case, it's still a stupid Skrull because he could have wiped out the Avengers, FF and Hulk (Though one could argue it would have defeated the purpose), but it's still a really cool piece of intra-title continuity.
CMBMOOL
03-25-2008, 05:43 PM
Also take a look at this piece of news....
http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=146014
We must be blessed. :p
Bryson the Red
03-25-2008, 05:59 PM
Aw damnit.
I was hoping Dugan wasn't one of them... or at least that they wouldn't kill the real one.
So sad.
CaptainCanada
03-25-2008, 06:01 PM
That would explain why Quesada et al. reversed course on his seeming death in Wolverine: Origins a while ago.
Spoilers, obviously:
Wait, doesn't this mean that a SKRULL was in possession of a way to send ALL OF NEW YORK into the Negative Zone and destroy it in World War Hulk?
Hmmm.... This could go 2 ways. Either
A) That's a very stupid Skrull, OR....
B) There's been some really nice continuity matcing and that's how the Skrulls transport the Baxter Building into the Negative Zone for SI: FF. In which case, it's still a stupid Skrull because he could have wiped out the Avengers, FF and Hulk (Though one could argue it would have defeated the purpose), but it's still a really cool piece of intra-title continuity.
It's certainly something to think about. Though I suppose there are possible explanations beyond the Skrull simply being stupid (though that's not exactly a rare trait among comic book villains in general).
Maybe there's some sort of time table to the skrulls plan that sending NY into the negative zone could disrupt. Or maybe it simply took time to use the Doomsday thing, and it was resolved before then. Or maybe Hulks Stone Ship was able to counter it, the same way it did a lot of the things Stark and SHIELD had in place until Sentry took out the ship (that's probably the easiest explanation).
The whole Doomsday thing kind of vanished during the story, so it's cool that it's at least possibly showing up agian.
That would explain why Quesada et al. reversed course on his seeming death in Wolverine: Origins a while ago.
Almost makes you wonder why they would have even bothered reversing it. They could have simply replaced Duggan then.
Shyft
03-25-2008, 06:44 PM
Spoilers, obviously:
Wait, doesn't this mean that a SKRULL was in possession of a way to send ALL OF NEW YORK into the Negative Zone and destroy it in World War Hulk?
Hmmm.... This could go 2 ways. Either
A) That's a very stupid Skrull, OR....
B) There's been some really nice continuity matcing and that's how the Skrulls transport the Baxter Building into the Negative Zone for SI: FF. In which case, it's still a stupid Skrull because he could have wiped out the Avengers, FF and Hulk (Though one could argue it would have defeated the purpose), but it's still a really cool piece of intra-title continuity.
Actually im guessing that the whole thing has been on quite a strict timeline. From the previews we've seen so far, the planning the Skrulls have been hinted at having, stretching back so far...it seems just randomly sending some heroes to the N-ZOne (especially when there are portals everywhere to get back) would seriously throw their plans out of kiltre.
drwho
03-25-2008, 06:55 PM
Hell Dugan is a walking deus ex machina when it comes to deaths. I could have sworn the guy was also a cyborg awhile back.
Capt USA
03-25-2008, 07:19 PM
I think it's funny that all the people on the Bendis board are overly concerned with the comment "he loves you"
from most of the hints and interviews that Bendis has given, it appears that the Skrulls are going to have some heavy religious stuff going on in the story, and the he loves you comment seems heavily religious and will figure into the story.
Bryson the Red
03-25-2008, 07:22 PM
I think it's funny that all the people on the Bendis board are overly concerned with the comment "he loves you"
from most of the hints and interviews that Bendis has given, it appears that the Skrulls are going to have some heavy religious stuff going on in the story, and the he loves you comment seems heavily religious and will figure into the story.
Yeah, especially since we know that one of the two Skrull gods is a female.
gorthon616
03-25-2008, 07:37 PM
The is probably the first plot twist Bendis has shown me (in awhile) that I've been excited about.... Congrats!
I do wonder how this matches up with the Iron Man book though.... I'll have to re-read it and see how it matches up...
The is probably the first plot twist Bendis has shown me (in awhile) that I've been excited about.... Congrats!
I do wonder how this matches up with the Iron Man book though.... I'll have to re-read it and see how it matches up...
I'm sure the Iron Man writers knew in advance since Bendis had been plotting this for a long long time. So I'll wager once we see their ultimate plane, it'll be clearer that Skrull has been pushing Stark subtly toward whatever agenda they have.
jackolover
03-25-2008, 07:50 PM
Yeah, especially since we know that one of the two Skrull gods is a female.
If the love goddess from Agents of Atlas is a Skrull then that could figure.
stingerman
03-25-2008, 07:52 PM
I just read it, pretty good.
Could be more evidence to support that the Cap that died was a skrull.
Spoiler: In their conversation she asks Dugan if he heard from Cap but Dugan says no it was the real one. This could just show that the Skrull Plan of replacing Cap is working. That they don't know where he is but replaced him anyway.
He's underground and, at the end, going to lead the real Avengers to Victory! Avengers Assemble!
TotalWorldDomination
03-25-2008, 08:22 PM
Pretty good, though we already could figure out that you-know-who was a skrull from Tom B's Secret Invasion notes on his blog. I'm a wee bit disapointed that he was replaced back in 25 rather then after he got stabbed in the chest back in wolverine origins, but eh, that's just me. If they had made it then, we might have been able to say that with the sliding timescale it was after much of the good character-driven interation in Iron Man: Director of SHEILD. oh well...
On a reated note dose this mean that the Countess has also been replaced by a Skrull? and that Dugan can pop claws when he wants to? and that Dugan is dead??? Sheesh... if this is how they treat all the replacees then I guess we're going to see tons of ressurections over the next few years...
Bryson the Red
03-25-2008, 08:25 PM
I just read it, pretty good.
Could be more evidence to support that the Cap that died was a skrull.
It's been stated more than once that Steve Rodgers, the Captain America that was killed, was not a Skrull. Unless you believe that Brubaker is just blatantly lying.
stingerman
03-26-2008, 01:05 AM
It's been stated more than once that Steve Rodgers, the Captain America that was killed, was not a Skrull. Unless you believe that Brubaker is just blatantly lying.
Yeah, I probably wouldn't take the writers word for it...
Nubian
03-26-2008, 01:40 AM
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20185202,00.html
It is the first ten pages, by the way.
worstblogever
03-26-2008, 02:21 AM
If what everyone is saying here about Dugan is true, then there's a big concern. During the Iron Man issues in WWH, he contacted Dum Dum while a prisoner on Hulk's Stone Ship, and told him that if all else failed, he was to activate a Doomsday weapon that would put all of Manhattan Island in the Negative Zone, and detonate all life on it but stop the Hulk. The weapon never got used, but a Skrum Dum Dugull would still know of its existence, and if Tony never changed the access codes...
I'm figuring the mentioning of it back during WWH was just a lead-in for this.
trust Yu to turn Agent Brand from hotness to guy with green lipstick.
yuck.
Lombardo!
03-26-2008, 03:31 AM
If what everyone is saying here about Dugan is true, then there's a big concern. During the Iron Man issues in WWH, he contacted Dum Dum while a prisoner on Hulk's Stone Ship, and told him that if all else failed, he was to activate a Doomsday weapon that would put all of Manhattan Island in the Negative Zone, and detonate all life on it but stop the Hulk. The weapon never got used, but a Skrum Dum Dugull would still know of its existence, and if Tony never changed the access codes...
I'm figuring the mentioning of it back during WWH was just a lead-in for this.
pretty sure the second Spider-Woman dumped Skrullektra on his bedroom floor he woulda changed all the access codes. dude's been paranoid as hell ever since. and he's known SHIELD's been rotten since the first NAvengers arc
Lombardo!
03-26-2008, 03:33 AM
Dugan's face looking pretty ominous there...
i for one think Yu's art (and the colouring - who IS that?!) is fantastic - in both this AND the Prologue
Havik
03-26-2008, 03:43 AM
Looks good so far, why give away 10 pages though? Damn. I also didn't see a problem with his art, Brand looks fine IMO. Can't wait, let's just hope Rogers is back for this (I know I'm being hopeful :( ). I just want to see some kind of resolution soon here, I've been hearing about this for so long it seems.
Dr. Chaos
03-26-2008, 03:53 AM
Damn, that was pretty creepy.
As long as they're not all wearing the goofy purple outfits again, along with Yu's art (with some much improved coloring, unlike his NA work), I really hope Bendis is going for a very slight horror feel to this event.
Netley
03-26-2008, 04:27 AM
I like the quote on the first page, like it's from a Skrull Bible or something. Pretty cool.
So Dugan meets Agent Brand, nice. I'm glad Whedon/Cassaday's great creation S.W.O.R.D. (the S.H.I.E.L.D. for aliens) is going to be a part of this. It just makes so much sense!
Yu's art is perfect for this story! He draws the "sly eye" like no other. You know, the I'm-not-sure-I-trust-you-and-you-can't-trust-me-either glance! I love it. Like when Tony's looking directly at the reader, telling us "the biggest secret in the world" - that was a beautiful sequence!
So this was different than the pages Marvel.com released. I read the first few of those, but I guess you need to be a member to see the rest. I thought they both were going to have reveals (and probably the members-only pages on marvel.com did). I'M NOT ASKING WHAT THEY WERE IF THERE WERE REVEALS. I was just wondering if anyone knew if the members-only Marvel.com material was going to be included in issue 1, or if those last pages can only be read if you sign up.
drwho
03-26-2008, 04:58 AM
Art looks a lot better than I expected it to.
CMBMOOL
03-26-2008, 05:06 AM
Comparing that to the events of the Prolouge and we have ourselves some BIG intergalatic trouble. :(
scouse mouse
03-26-2008, 05:20 AM
Yu's art does look a thousand times better with a proper inker.
scouse mouse
03-26-2008, 05:22 AM
Good prologue, but I guess it looks bleak for Black Bolt and my darling Elektra if that's what they do to all the people they replace.:(
bjtrdff
03-26-2008, 05:46 AM
Was it just me, or were all of the rumored Skrulls drawn super ominously?
Mark_S
03-26-2008, 05:53 AM
Was it just me, or were all of the rumored Skrulls drawn super ominously?
I thought that too. And it looks like it is finally going to happen.
Go Skrulls!
Mark_S
Brian M.
03-26-2008, 06:08 AM
What the hell is Jarvis doing...he looks pretty damn creepy.
Asian_Invasion
03-26-2008, 06:08 AM
I can't wait...
corporategohan
03-26-2008, 06:19 AM
Yu's art does look a thousand times better with a proper inker.
/2nded
and
/3rded
Christopher O
03-26-2008, 06:20 AM
I've always hated Yu's art, but that looks incredible. Morales and Martin should always be with Yu. They pretty it up.
Magneto Rocks
03-26-2008, 06:47 AM
Also- we saw the Countess in Cap #26, set a week or so after the shooting. (We also saw Dugan, but he didn't realy do anything in that appearance) She was talking to Sharon at the time- the REAL Countess, or just a skrull? It seems clear that the Skrulls are just impersonating some people for a few minutes at a time, so the real COuntess might be out there while this Countesskrull (Or Skrulltess? Skrountess?) lures in Dugan. Or she may be dead. Damn you Bendis, you're too damn good at creating paranoia!
Rich L
03-26-2008, 07:37 AM
Contessa was also in the Union Jack mini set just prior to Civil War.
Oh, and to people who want to read the prologue you only have to register on Marvel.com - you don't need to subscribe to the digital thing.
What the hell is Jarvis doing...he looks pretty damn creepy.
I've branded Jarvis a Skrull for his nasty comment about Tigra. That's a tip off if I ever saw one.
It's good to see Agent Brand again. I anticipate scads of snark.
bjtrdff
03-26-2008, 08:34 AM
I like seeing Brand in this setting as well.
Based on the preview, I'd say there's little doubt Dugan is a Skrull, and I will throw out Jarvis and Pym as well.
I'm really liking the fact that we're going to see exactly when the skrulls replaced them as well. Since Bendis has planned this in the avengers books forever, it's going to be cool to go back and point to a certain phrase or event and say 'oh yeah....'.
Huh, I didn't even realize that this was a 'prologue' only and not in the issue. Dynamite.
TotalWorldDomination
03-26-2008, 08:35 AM
What the hell is Jarvis doing...he looks pretty damn creepy.
That's cause he's such a skrull his leavings are green and the bottom is ribbed.
Also- we saw the Countess in Cap #26, set a week or so after the shooting. (We also saw Dugan, but he didn't realy do anything in that appearance) She was talking to Sharon at the time- the REAL Countess, or just a skrull? It seems clear that the Skrulls are just impersonating some people for a few minutes at a time, so the real COuntess might be out there while this Countesskrull (Or Skrulltess? Skrountess?) lures in Dugan. Or she may be dead. Damn you Bendis, you're too damn good at creating paranoia!
Bendis doesn't have to create paranoia, he just has to throw undetectable skrulls at us and let US create the paranoia.
I'm a little interested that the Skrulls "don't hate the human race" and are going to be issuing a manifesto of sorts. Last I checked they did pretty much despise the earth men, and were less interested in manifestos and more interested in killing us all.
TotalWorldDomination
03-26-2008, 08:39 AM
I've branded Jarvis a Skrull for his nasty comment about Tigra. That's a tip off if I ever saw one.
I've branded Jarvis a skrull ever since he had the green hanky back when he was re-introduced in New Avengers. He was the only character that I was 100% sure was a skrull.
It's good to see Agent Brand again. I anticipate scads of snark.
The phrase "Scads of Snark" is going to work it's way into my regular speech patterns. Fantastic.
bjtrdff
03-26-2008, 08:43 AM
That's cause he's such a skrull his leavings are green and the bottom is ribbed.
Bendis doesn't have to create paranoia, he just has to throw undetectable skrulls at us and let US create the paranoia.
I'm a little interested that the Skrulls "don't hate the human race" and are going to be issuing a manifesto of sorts. Last I checked they did pretty much despise the earth men, and were less interested in manifestos and more interested in killing us all.
I must have missed the 'manifesto thing', where was this?
I think so far the skrulls largely seem secondary or supporting characters most of us expected. Duggan will probably take out SWORD, and Jarvis (who I'm assuming is a Skrull) will probably screw up Stark Tower. Taking out SWORD, SHIELD, and Stark basically eliminates the most obvious threats right off the bat outside of the heroes of course.
I recall Battlestar Galactica, where the Cylons easily took out the earth fleet because they all had a centralized computer system that the Cylons could cripple with one easy move. I wonder if the same can't be said for SWORD and SHIELD tech. If Stark Tech is basically running earths defenses now, I wonder if Stark doesn't have some backdoor that he put into all his tech which the Skrulls can exploit to cripple earth's defenses. I imagine between Duggan and Jarvis (again, assuming Jarvis is a skrull), they're in a pretty good position to mess with Starks stuff.
TotalWorldDomination
03-26-2008, 09:03 AM
I must have missed the 'manifesto thing', where was this?
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20186361,00.html
The Question "Why the Skrulls?" Emphisis Mine.
They don't invade because — ''Muhahaha! We need the Earth!'' — but actually on a deep, religious level they already believe Earth is part of their empire. In the past, they were written as laser-gun toting, spaceship aliens. they are shape shifters. Just think about what that means — they [could] infiltrate us and feed off our existing fears and paranoia. And it isn't government or religion that stands in their way, it's the people who have the physical [super]power to step up. [B]Once the Skrulls announce their intentions to the world, they say, ''You're destroying your world, the way you live. One of you will live in excess right next to someone who's starving, and none of you do anything about it. Our system works. Our system is complete. We're coming to give it to you.'' For some people, that's a damn attractive offer. They don't feel like they're being invaded. They think, ''Finally someone's here to save us.'' So what's right or wrong?
bjtrdff
03-26-2008, 09:16 AM
Much obliged.
HeckBoy
03-26-2008, 09:20 AM
Do I have to have a paid subscription to see the preview pages? or is there like a free, general purpose account I can sign up for on the Marvel site?
Optic Power
03-26-2008, 09:50 AM
Do I have to have a paid subscription to see the preview pages? or is there like a free, general purpose account I can sign up for on the Marvel site?
try this link
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20185202,00.html
prodigy
03-26-2008, 09:51 AM
I've branded Jarvis a Skrull for his nasty comment about Tigra. That's a tip off if I ever saw one.
When was this?
Optic Power
03-26-2008, 09:59 AM
Art is looking better then i expected from Yu.
bjtrdff
03-26-2008, 10:01 AM
try this link
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20185202,00.html
That's not the the preview where someone was revealed as a Skrull, it's the 10 page prologue accessible to anyone.
Does anyone know how to access the preview without a digital subscription?
Capt USA
03-26-2008, 10:03 AM
That's not the the preview where someone was revealed as a Skrull, it's the 10 page prologue accessible to anyone.
Does anyone know how to access the preview without a digital subscription?
it's a free signup to access the preview (the digital prologue). You have to fill out a small form and then you can access the rest of the story.
bjtrdff
03-26-2008, 10:07 AM
The prologue and preview are two different things. Are you saying the spoiler scenes involving the new Skrull are available on the ew site, or do you mean on the marvel digital comics site?
Will.S
03-26-2008, 10:12 AM
Wow this looks awesome, cannot wait!
When was this?
I don't remember the issue but Jarvis made a rather nasty comment about not wanting to clean the fur from that Tigra b____ off of the sheets again. That's totally out of character for him.
try this link
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20185202,00.html
Hmmm... I wonder who Luke Cage was calling.
I always wondered how the NA would be able to get anywhere without Strange.
Shyft
03-26-2008, 10:19 AM
This is a seperate, online only issue. this is NOT the first pages of Secret Invasion. Any chance you could change the title matt?
ShaggyB
03-26-2008, 10:27 AM
Its all be merged with the preview and the prologue in here.
Prologue is on Marvel.com
Features a skrull replacement
Preview is on http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20185202,00.html
Features 10 pages.
Things to note, these 10 pages arent the first 10. Otherwise wed see electras full body on the table as thats a two page spread. (as seen in last weeks marvel comics.)
it's a free signup to access the preview (the digital prologue). You have to fill out a small form and then you can access the rest of the story.
Are you sure? The only options I see are $4.99/month (annual subscription) and $9.99 a month (monthly subscription).
Hmmm... I wonder who Luke Cage was calling.
I always wondered how the NA would be able to get anywhere without Strange.I got the feeling he was calling Black Panther, but everyone seems to forget that Danny is rich, even though they're all sitting in his apartment.
ShaggyB
03-26-2008, 10:32 AM
Are you sure? The only options I see are $4.99/month (annual subscription) and $9.99 a month (monthly subscription).
yeah its free but every 2nd or 3rd page flip it tries to ask you to pay 4.99. just flip back and flip forward again and it should go away. Poor Poor Dugan
I got the feeling he was calling Black Panther, but everyone seems to forget that Danny is rich, even though they're all sitting in his apartment.
Yeah, off the top of my head the only people I could think of is either Black Panther or maybe Nick Fury. Or maybe Logan can borrow a Black Bird... but i that were the case it probably wouldn't be Cage making the call.
We know Danny has a plane... that's how they got to Japan. But since none of them can actually fly, they basically have to take the bus to the air port.
TotalWorldDomination
03-26-2008, 10:49 AM
Yeah, off the top of my head the only people I could think of is either Black Panther or maybe Nick Fury. Or maybe Logan can borrow a Black Bird... but i that were the case it probably wouldn't be Cage making the call.
We know Danny has a plane... that's how they got to Japan. But since none of them can actually fly, they basically have to take the bus to the air port.
And lets not forget that Tony isn't a moron (hard I know, depending on who's writing him). After the whole confrontation at the Rand corporation where Danny's lawyer (who is clearly a skrull) I'm sure SHEILD is watching his planes like hawks eying injured field mice.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20186361,00.html
Once the Skrulls announce their intentions to the world, they say, ''You're destroying your world, the way you live. One of you will live in excess right next to someone who's starving, and none of you do anything about it. Our system works. Our system is complete. We're coming to give it to you.'' For some people, that's a damn attractive offer. They don't feel like they're being invaded. They think, ''Finally someone's here to save us.'' So what's right or wrong?
Didn't Skrull Bolt say that their people would die so that his own people may live? Maybe there are two or more conflicting parties between the skrulls themselves?
bjtrdff
03-26-2008, 12:22 PM
yeah its free but every 2nd or 3rd page flip it tries to ask you to pay 4.99. just flip back and flip forward again and it should go away. Poor Poor Dugan
Doesn't work for me. Would anybody be a kind young squire and give a brief description of how Dugan gets replaced?
TotalWorldDomination
03-26-2008, 12:22 PM
Didn't Skrull Bolt say that their people would die so that his own people may live? Maybe there are two or more conflicting parties between the skrulls themselves?
I'd wager it's more like when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says he doesn't have anything against the jewish people, just the jewish state. Or when Al Queda says they just want the US to withdraw from the middle east. Or when the Nazi's said if we just gave them one tiny piece of Czechoslovakia they'd be happy and we could all live in harmony. Deep down you know they are just evil psychos that want to eliminate there hated enemies, but if they can get some people who "just want to live in piece" to side with them, all the better. from the pitch that the Skrulls are giving looks like they are trying to appeal to old-school liberals and blue collar workers.
ShaggyB
03-26-2008, 12:43 PM
So i was doing some digging and found that Marvelb0y has spoiled some other aspects of issue 1. Ill not repeat them here, but lets just say if hes really dead on i cant wait.
Im already pumped from the prologue and the 10 pages were great, now after reading all that stuff that was leaked, man o man. 1 week to go till we find out
gorthon616
03-26-2008, 12:51 PM
I'm sure the Iron Man writers knew in advance since Bendis had been plotting this for a long long time. So I'll wager once we see their ultimate plane, it'll be clearer that Skrull has been pushing Stark subtly toward whatever agenda they have.
I suppose it wouldn't be inconsistent in retrospect.... if they Skrulls are trying to take over the Earth, they wouldn't necessarily want it decimated. So in the short-term they might support "heroism" (ala in IM or WWH), because they don't want their new home ruined.
Red Lotus
03-26-2008, 12:52 PM
So i was doing some digging and found that Marvelb0y has spoiled some other aspects of issue 1. Ill not repeat them here, but lets just say if hes really dead on i cant wait.
Im already pumped from the prologue and the 10 pages were great, now after reading all that stuff that was leaked, man o man. 1 week to go till we find out
I saw that. So far it looks like every thing he said is going to happen.
ShaggyB
03-26-2008, 01:29 PM
I saw that. So far it looks like every thing he said is going to happen.
Funny, at first i thought it was some weird viral marketing thing, but currently i think dude is for real. He may not get everything spot on but i think hes got access to info that shouldnt be outside marvel home offices.
Maestro
03-26-2008, 01:35 PM
Things to note, these 10 pages arent the first 10. Otherwise wed see electras full body on the table as thats a two page spread. (as seen in last weeks marvel comics.)
It is the first 10 pages... first 12 actually, with cover and credits.
Inhumanoid
03-26-2008, 01:38 PM
That preview has done nothing but reaffirm my apathy towards this storyline.
I was hoping Bendis might put the same gusto into this story as he did Ult. Spidey's first few arcs but that writing seems so incredibly typically banal.
ShaggyB
03-26-2008, 01:39 PM
It is the first 10 pages... first 12 actually, with cover and credits.
my bad you are correct. though i must ask, why is reed so suprised, didnt he see the skrull up close in Illuminati?
Red Lotus
03-26-2008, 02:16 PM
my bad you are correct. though i must ask, why is reed so suprised, didnt he see the skrull up close in Illuminati?
I dont know maybe he is a Skrull maybe he is trying to fool Hank.
bjtrdff
03-26-2008, 02:25 PM
Bendis has said that this IS NOT the first ten pages. It's a free online preview. There's a link to his board earlier in the thread where he says it (in nice capital letters).
Orin GA
03-26-2008, 02:35 PM
I wonder if he is really dead. Im betting that the skrulls need to keep them alive to transfer memories into their duplicates and it might have to be done on a regular basis.
What did the skrull mean by "Dont Worry, he loves you" ?
desanth
03-26-2008, 04:31 PM
Isn't Cloak still active? If so, I'm guessing that's who Powerman called.
I suppose it wouldn't be inconsistent in retrospect.... if they Skrulls are trying to take over the Earth, they wouldn't necessarily want it decimated. So in the short-term they might support "heroism" (ala in IM or WWH), because they don't want their new home ruined.
Also, it probably simplifies things.
For example, I'm wondering if it wasn't the skrulls that sicked SHIELD and the MA on Doom just so that they wouldn't have to worry about dealing with him when they finally make their move.
Isn't Cloak still active? If so, I'm guessing that's who Powerman called.
Cloak is a pretty handy guy. He was the team teleporter in House of M and in Civil War... so making him the team teleporter in Secret Invasion fits the pattern.
I dont know maybe he is a Skrull maybe he is trying to fool Hank.
Perhaps he's just play acting a little, since no one is suppossed to know that the Illuminati meet up.
I imagine Hank in particular would be pretty upset that Reed and Tony were doing this since he was part of their three man brain trust recently.
Though if there's a skrull in there, it's probably Hank.
Magneto Rocks
03-26-2008, 04:40 PM
Though if there's a skrull in there, it's probably Hank.
Because we know for a fact Tony's not and it's 90% certain Reed's not? (Given a combination of FF: SI solicits, the whole Millar/Hitch thing, the Illuminati special and the simple fact that Bendis has talked a lot about how much the Skrulls hate him?)
ShaggyB
03-26-2008, 04:56 PM
Bendis has said that this IS NOT the first ten pages. It's a free online preview. There's a link to his board earlier in the thread where he says it (in nice capital letters).
yeah but you do realize the released the first 10 pages today online as a preview. We all know the dugan story is a prologue online only issue not found in #1
Brock
03-26-2008, 05:00 PM
yeah but you do realize the released the first 10 pages today online as a preview. We all know the dugan story is a prologue online only issue not found in #1
Its a fair bet they'll include it in the eventual Directors Cut edition of Secret Invasion #1, and in the trade.
CMBMOOL
03-26-2008, 05:09 PM
Perhaps he's just play acting a little, since no one is suppossed to know that the Illuminati meet up.
Which I think the Skrulls will reveal this info to the heroes later on during this event as well, and makes them question the trusting issue of Tony stark and co further. :p
ShaggyB
03-26-2008, 05:12 PM
Its a fair bet they'll include it in the eventual Directors Cut edition of Secret Invasion #1, and in the trade.
oh man i hope so, but i was posting because i think the guy hasnt seen the preview just the prologue.
Bryson the Red
03-26-2008, 05:24 PM
Which I think the Skrulls will reveal this info to the heroes later on during this event as well, and makes them question the trusting issue of Tony stark and co further. :p
I think you're just indulging in wishful thinking. I'm pretty sure we're well past the point of anyone giving a care about the Illuminati.
I think you're just indulging in wishful thinking. I'm pretty sure we're well past the point of anyone giving a care about the Illuminati.
No... I think Bendis will milk that one when the time is right. There's no point in having a secret society manipulating events behind the scenes if no one cares. There's potential drama there, and the Illuminati still hasn't been exposed yet.
Magneto Rocks
03-26-2008, 05:32 PM
No... I think Bendis will milk that one when the time is right. There's no point in having a secret society manipulating events behind the scenes if no one cares. There's potential drama there, and the Illuminati still hasn't been exposed yet.
I dunno, they effectively have.
Skrull- "These guys formed a secret cabel behind the scenes!"
Sue- "ZOMG? THEY DID? Who was in it!?"
Skrull- "Black Bolt, your husband, Iron Man, Doc Strange and Namor!"
Sue- "...So pretty much the guys who shot Hulk into space plus Namor?"
Skrull- "....Yes."
Sue- "So what did they do?"
Skrull- "Well, they... um... attacked us after we attacked you and... er... they.... SHOT THE HULK INTO SPACE!"
Sue- "Yes, I know that. What else which was as bad as that?"
Skrull- "Um.... well... they kinda... umm... yeah..."
Not much point exposing them when they've already paid for what was by far their most morally dubious deed.
Red Lotus
03-26-2008, 05:35 PM
Also, it probably simplifies things.
For example, I'm wondering if it wasn't the skrulls that sicked SHIELD and the MA on Doom just so that they wouldn't have to worry about dealing with him when they finally make their move.
Yeah I think the Skrulls did use this to take Doom out. No matter what would happen it was going to be a plus for them.
I dunno, they effectively have.
Skrull- "These guys formed a secret cabel behind the scenes!"
Sue- "ZOMG? THEY DID? Who was in it!?"
Skrull- "Black Bolt, your husband, Iron Man, Doc Strange and Namor!"
Sue- "...So pretty much the guys who shot Hulk into space plus Namor?"
Skrull- "....Yes."
Sue- "So what did they do?"
Skrull- "Well, they... um... attacked us after we attacked you and... er... they.... SHOT THE HULK INTO SPACE!"
Sue- "Yes, I know that. What else which was as bad as that?"
Skrull- "Um.... well... they kinda... umm... yeah..."
Not much point exposing them when they've already paid for what was by far their most morally dubious deed.
The point really isn't that they necessarily did anything that was bad (though a lot of what they did seemingly ended up backfiring and making things worse). The point was that they did things behind everyone's back. It's a trust thing.
Maybe I'm wrong... but I do think Bendis has built up this secret, and he likely wants to milk a bit of drama out of it down the road. It was sort of hinted at in WWH... but I think Bendis wants to save any real fireworks for something he's writing himself. But we'll see.
Bryson the Red
03-26-2008, 05:42 PM
The point really isn't that they necessarily did anything that was bad (though a lot of what they did seemingly ended up backfiring and making things worse). The point was that they did things behind everyone's back. It's a trust thing.
Maybe I'm wrong... but I do think Bendis has built up this secret, and he likely wants to milk a bit of drama out of it down the road. It was sort of hinted at in WWH... but I think Bendis wants to save any real fireworks for something he's writing himself. But we'll see.
I don't know. I just don't think it'll be a big deal. After the whole Hulk thing, and that no one will trust each other anyway because of Skrull... I don't see how it could be more than a splash in a hurricane.
I don't know. I just don't think it'll be a big deal. After the whole Hulk thing, and that no one will trust each other anyway because of Skrull... I don't see how it could be more than a splash in a hurricane.
Given that several Illuminati members are already mistrusted and only now rebuilding that trust, it's more about adding fuel to the fire than starting a new one.
Since several Illuminat members aren't even in books that Bendis writers, for THEM it likely will be a splash. But for Tony, it could have more long term consequnees as far as the trust of his teammates.
Shyft
03-26-2008, 06:14 PM
Cloak and Dagger need to join the NA, and this is the perfect time, assuming Cloak was who Luke was calling. Cloak brings the teleportationg lost with the departure of Strange, Dagger brings the altheticism and ranged attacks of Spiderwoman, not to mention rebalancing the sexes on the team.
CMBMOOL
03-26-2008, 06:47 PM
The point really isn't that they necessarily did anything that was bad (though a lot of what they did seemingly ended up backfiring and making things worse). The point was that they did things behind everyone's back. It's a trust thing.
Maybe I'm wrong... but I do think Bendis has built up this secret, and he likely wants to milk a bit of drama out of it down the road. It was sort of hinted at in WWH... but I think Bendis wants to save any real fireworks for something he's writing himself. But we'll see.
I can see Bendis revealing the real truths behind the Illuminati group as sort of an epiolouge for Secret Invasion.
Sort of a get together with ever remainding hero and heroine in the Marvel U and Iron Man addressing the real history of the group, along with the Hulk's exile.
I can also see this as the start of trying to rebuild the trust issue within the Marvel U once all the secrets are let out. :p
ShaggyB
03-26-2008, 06:51 PM
No... I think Bendis will milk that one when the time is right. There's no point in having a secret society manipulating events behind the scenes if no one cares. There's potential drama there, and the Illuminati still hasn't been exposed yet.
I thought they had been exposed by the Hulk in World War Hulk. Also Bendis hasn't stated the Illuminati will play a role, in that the skrulls are at least reacting in the way they are due to the hand the Illuminati dealt them.
I thought they had been exposed by the Hulk in World War Hulk. Also Bendis hasn't stated the Illuminati will play a role, in that the skrulls are at least reacting in the way they are due to the hand the Illuminati dealt them.
They were sort of exposed. It was revealed that they exiled the Hulk. I don't think it's been revealed that they've been doing this since the Kree-Skrull War. Again, this is Bendis thing... so I'm sure any reveal will REALLY be done in one of his books rather than in one of Paks.
ShaggyB
03-26-2008, 07:00 PM
Cloak and Dagger need to join the NA, and this is the perfect time, assuming Cloak was who Luke was calling. Cloak brings the teleportationg lost with the departure of Strange, Dagger brings the altheticism and ranged attacks of Spiderwoman, not to mention rebalancing the sexes on the team.
I like it. They should do that
ShaggyB
03-26-2008, 07:02 PM
They were sort of exposed. It was revealed that they exiled the Hulk. I don't think it's been revealed that they've been doing this since the Kree-Skrull War. Again, this is Bendis thing... so I'm sure any reveal will REALLY be done in one of his books rather than in one of Paks.
Oh yeah im sure it will be big, hell the only one thats trust worthy is Strange and his powers and mystic stuff make him hard to trust. Though i still think hes having major issues and may in fact be a skrull.
Time will tell. And what of Xavier with the bullet in his head and shattered mind?
Oh yeah im sure it will be big, hell the only one thats trust worthy is Strange and his powers and mystic stuff make him hard to trust. Though i still think hes having major issues and may in fact be a skrull.
Time will tell. And what of Xavier with the bullet in his head and shattered mind?
I think a bullet to the head will overshadow most of the issues the X-Men may have with Xavier over the Illuminati thing.
Honestly, most of them already view him as a shady bastard at this point... so his revelation won't be huge. They can get away with minimizing it in the Xbooks since they already largely view him as a jerk anyways.
ShaggyB
03-26-2008, 07:11 PM
I think a bullet to the head will overshadow most of the issues the X-Men may have with Xavier over the Illuminati thing.
Honestly, most of them already view him as a shady bastard at this point... so his revelation won't be huge. They can get away with minimizing it in the Xbooks since they already largely view him as a jerk anyways.
True, cyke runs the show now, though from todays wizard comics magazine cover i have to wonder about the skrull on the xmen team
jobies201
03-26-2008, 07:25 PM
can someone tell me what happened in it? I can't view it. And I don't just mean the ____ a Skrull thing, I mean everything. Thanks.
ShaggyB
03-26-2008, 07:28 PM
can someone tell me what happened in it? I can't view it. And I don't just mean the ____ a Skrull thing, I mean everything. Thanks.
which thing? the prologue or the preview?
Preview is first 10 pages of next weeks book.
Prologue has Dugan's apparent death at the hands of a skrull. Seems hes been replaced and it happens right after Cap is killed. Basically putting the Skrull in iron-mans ear all through his director of shield book and World War Hulk. Not much really happens in it, Except that Dugan is stabbed and looks to be dead, the skrull who kills him shape shifts into him..... the end.
joemagnum611
03-26-2008, 07:54 PM
I called it all along. Jarvis has to be a Skrull. The way he walked in the room when Spider Woman was on the phone has to be a tell tale. Like I said what better way for the Skrulls to get info by posing as the unasuming butler and most trusted friend of Tony Stark.
IronStarks
03-26-2008, 08:04 PM
I called it all along. Jarvis has to be a Skrull. The way he walked in the room when Spider Woman was on the phone has to be a tell tale. Like I said what better way for the Skrulls to get info by posing as the unasuming butler and most trusted friend of Tony Stark.
at first i was against this idea, but after reading the preview i can definitly see this happining. Most definitly
at first i was against this idea, but after reading the preview i can definitly see this happining. Most definitly
I'm only against it if the Skrulls are killing the people they kidnap. As long as Jarvis is alive and in one piece somewhere, I'm cool with him being a Skrull.
Bryson the Red
03-26-2008, 08:19 PM
I'm only against it if the Skrulls are killing the people they kidnap. As long as Jarvis is alive and in one piece somewhere, I'm cool with him being a Skrull.
I feel sure Dugan will be back eventually, but I'd be so pissed if they killed Jarvis.
I feel sure Dugan will be back eventually, but I'd be so pissed if they killed Jarvis.
Well, Duggan has been killed before. So I suppose I'm a bit less worried about him.
Ullar
03-26-2008, 08:48 PM
Do you have to subscribe to read it?
Bryson the Red
03-26-2008, 08:50 PM
Do you have to subscribe to read it?
You have to register an account, but you don't need to pay.
Inhumanoid
03-26-2008, 09:01 PM
I'm only against it if the Skrulls are killing the people they kidnap. As long as Jarvis is alive and in one piece somewhere, I'm cool with him being a Skrull.
Well, either all the people who have been replaced are dead or all this "change" stuff Marvel has been talking about it s crock.
Bryson the Red
03-26-2008, 09:08 PM
Well, either all the people who have been replaced are dead or all this "change" stuff Marvel has been talking about it s crock.
They don't have to kill everyone they replace, and even if they didn't kill any of them that doesn't mean there will be no change. Personally Bendis said it well in the latest interview: Look at the track record. They say change, "no more mutants", they say change, Caps dead and Iron Man is in charge or SHIELD. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt at this point.
TotalWorldDomination
03-26-2008, 09:28 PM
On second readthrough, Spider-Woman is a skrull. A skrull or a moron. A skrull a moron, or someone unaware that JARVIS IS STANDING 2 FEET AWAY FROM YOU!
She calls the NA's and says "I trust you more then Stark". Jarvis is watching. Listening. He's been tony stark's loyal butler for years and you call the rebels. You call the rebels and badmouth stark. In front of his oldest friend. So either the Jarvis super-skrull has the Invisible Woman's powers, Skrull-Jarvis (Skrullvis?) and Spider Woman are working together, or she's just dumb.
Bryson the Red
03-26-2008, 09:32 PM
On second readthrough, Spider-Woman is a skrull. A skrull or a moron. A skrull a moron, or someone unaware that JARVIS IS STANDING 2 FEET AWAY FROM YOU!
She calls the NA's and says "I trust you more then Stark". Jarvis is watching. Listening. He's been tony stark's loyal butler for years and you call the rebels. You call the rebels and badmouth stark. In front of his oldest friend. So either the Jarvis super-skrull has the Invisible Woman's powers, Skrull-Jarvis (Skrullvis?) and Spider Woman are working together, or she's just dumb.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
Dr. Chaos
03-26-2008, 09:53 PM
Loved the picture quality in the prologue.
Why can't all the comics in Marvel's DCU (or atleast some of them) look this good in the viewer?
As for the SI preview, being only a week away from #1, theres no way in hell I'm reading that.
TotalWorldDomination
03-26-2008, 09:55 PM
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
I really hope your wrong. Sad thing is you're probably right.
Ullar
03-26-2008, 10:04 PM
You have to register an account, but you don't need to pay.
I tried but it requires a credit card which I don't have.
Dr. Chaos
03-26-2008, 10:07 PM
This is the same kind of crap that happened when they promoted Cap#25 on the site for free, except the opposite.
There might be some sneaky business bait and switch dickery going on here but with the constant problems that seem to pop up for this service, it might just be another kink in the system.
TotalWorldDomination
03-26-2008, 10:14 PM
I tried but it requires a credit card which I don't have.
It seems they have switched and changed it from free to pay at some point during the day. Seems pretty jerky to me.
torippu
03-26-2008, 10:23 PM
You have to register an account, but you don't need to pay.
I'm running into the same issue. There is nothing free about this...each time I try to sign up for an account, it requests a credit card.
Dr. Chaos
03-26-2008, 10:28 PM
From a headline on Marvel's site:
Marvel released a seven-page prologue to "Secret Invasion" today, available exclusively to subscribers of Digital Comics Unlimited!
Tricky, tricky Marvel.
Luckily I was able to read it before they changed it.
TotalWorldDomination
03-26-2008, 10:35 PM
Tricky, tricky Marvel.
Luckily I was able to read it before they changed it.
Ditto. Either marvel made a horrible mistake that let wonderful folk like me and you read it without pay, or they are nasty folk that have seduced the unsuspecting with promised of Skrullvelations (Skrull Revelations, I know it's terrible, sue me). I'd wager on the former.
IronStarks
03-26-2008, 10:40 PM
lol glad i got to read it while it was still free ;)
Maestro
03-26-2008, 10:52 PM
The prologue will be free after a week so no worries.
stingerman
03-26-2008, 11:09 PM
lol glad i got to read it while it was still free ;)
Me, too. When the username/password thing popped up I used the one for the message boards and it worked.
*yeah it doesnt work now, I just tried it. I bet they screwed up and you were supposed to pay for it/be a member.
Dr. Chaos
03-26-2008, 11:22 PM
Well, Bendis was originally promoting it on his message board as completely free so I'm guessing it turned out to be a bait and switch after all.
On second readthrough, Spider-Woman is a skrull. A skrull or a moron. A skrull a moron, or someone unaware that JARVIS IS STANDING 2 FEET AWAY FROM YOU!
She calls the NA's and says "I trust you more then Stark". Jarvis is watching. Listening. He's been tony stark's loyal butler for years and you call the rebels. You call the rebels and badmouth stark. In front of his oldest friend. So either the Jarvis super-skrull has the Invisible Woman's powers, Skrull-Jarvis (Skrullvis?) and Spider Woman are working together, or she's just dumb.
Saying that she doesn't trust Stark as much as the NA isn't really that much of an insult... I'll wager Jarvis is quite aware that Stark has done a few things in recent months that have deteriorated the trust between him and many other members of the hero community.
But as far as talking right in front of Jarvis... perhaps she suspects him of being a skrull and is baiting him to see i there's a reaction. If he is a skrull (which I think he is), it might motivate him to play his hand. If he's not... no harm done. It's no secret she has trust issues with the guy. And if the NA can get their sooner, all the better.
TotalWorldDomination
03-27-2008, 08:17 AM
Saying that she doesn't trust Stark as much as the NA isn't really that much of an insult... I'll wager Jarvis is quite aware that Stark has done a few things in recent months that have deteriorated the trust between him and many other members of the hero community.
But as far as talking right in front of Jarvis... perhaps she suspects him of being a skrull and is baiting him to see i there's a reaction. If he is a skrull (which I think he is), it might motivate him to play his hand. If he's not... no harm done. It's no secret she has trust issues with the guy. And if the NA can get their sooner, all the better.
I'm hoping you're right. Jarvis, at least in my mind, is clearly a skrull. For SW to bait him would be perfect.
However, if she doesn't suspect him of skrullyness, I think it's a stupid thing for her to do simply because I think, skrull or not, Jarvis is going to tell tony what she did. This means that not only dose she screw with tony's plans, making him trust her less, but it means that she's in contact with the New/Secret Avengers. In either case, it's going to piss tony off, and with her recent power upgrade, it implicates her as a skrull all the more.
It will let you view it if you log in for free as a Marvel.com memeber on the main page. It just worked for me.
I'm hoping you're right. Jarvis, at least in my mind, is clearly a skrull. For SW to bait him would be perfect.
However, if she doesn't suspect him of skrullyness, I think it's a stupid thing for her to do simply because I think, skrull or not, Jarvis is going to tell tony what she did. This means that not only dose she screw with tony's plans, making him trust her less, but it means that she's in contact with the New/Secret Avengers. In either case, it's going to piss tony off, and with her recent power upgrade, it implicates her as a skrull all the more.
I honestly doubt asking for help from the NA will bother Tony THAT much. The NA and MA have worked together before. And if the NA can get there sooner, it might be a good thing. Not exactly sure why anyone would think they could get there sooner... I guess Jessica is more aware of Cages resources than a lot of the readers are.
To me anyways, the fact that she did what she did out in the open right in front of Jarvis lessens the implication that she's a skrull.
Ullar
03-27-2008, 11:53 AM
It will let you view it if you log in for free as a Marvel.com memeber on the main page. It just worked for me.
I just tried that and it didn't work. Can anyone who is a member print it out and scan it or something?
jobies201
03-27-2008, 01:21 PM
which thing? the prologue or the preview?
Preview is first 10 pages of next weeks book.
Prologue has Dugan's apparent death at the hands of a skrull. Seems hes been replaced and it happens right after Cap is killed. Basically putting the Skrull in iron-mans ear all through his director of shield book and World War Hulk. Not much really happens in it, Except that Dugan is stabbed and looks to be dead, the skrull who kills him shape shifts into him..... the end.
Thank you! Wow! I hope that's not happens to all of them!
Inhumanoid
03-27-2008, 02:00 PM
Marvel has released a new "Webisode" of Secret Invasion. Not sure how to embed on this board so here's the link-
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid271543564/bctid1476709301
It's actually pretty good. Almost makes SI look intresting. If Bendis wasn't writing this I'd bite.
Wish they'd do this kind of thing for truly epic and entertaining events like Annihilation.
scouse mouse
03-27-2008, 02:14 PM
That was brilliant! I can't wait for next week!
TotalWorldDomination
03-27-2008, 02:15 PM
Marvel has released a new "Webisode" of Secret Invasion. Not sure how to embed on this board so here's the link-
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid271543564/bctid1476709301
It's actually pretty good. Almost makes SI look intresting. If Bendis wasn't writing this I'd bite.
Wish they'd do this kind of thing for truly epic and entertaining events like Annihilation.
That was pretty darn good. I wonder if there list of "Infiltration: Sucess" targets is cannon. I mean I'd assume it is, but that means the NA's do have a Skrullerific member.
StoneGold
03-27-2008, 02:16 PM
You know, way back when, I probably would have been pissed of if certain mustachioed characters were killed. But he's so illogically old now, I don't really mind that much.
marvelboi77
03-27-2008, 04:46 PM
http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.2983
It's pretty cool, enjoy.
Asian_Invasion
03-27-2008, 05:33 PM
The skrull's chin always gets me.
stingerman
03-27-2008, 10:03 PM
http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.2983
It's pretty cool, enjoy.
That was pretty cool. Spoilers: So someone in the Mighty Avengers and Fantastic Four are skrulls?
IronStarks
03-27-2008, 10:58 PM
That was pretty cool. Spoilers: So someone in the Mighty Avengers and Fantastic Four are skrulls?
Im going to go out and say i think Sue is the Skrull in the Baxter building
b_sinning
03-28-2008, 07:23 AM
Jarvis is a Skrull! Or Luke Cages baby!
CMBMOOL
03-28-2008, 09:29 AM
Man, all these pieces of news over this event does bring a little hpe into my heart that this may be Bendis best idea yet.:o
StoneGold
03-28-2008, 01:17 PM
Sudden funny though - Dum Dum didn't really die, it was an LMD.
Marvel has released a new "Webisode" of Secret Invasion. Not sure how to embed on this board so here's the link-
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid271543564/bctid1476709301
It's actually pretty good. Almost makes SI look intresting. If Bendis wasn't writing this I'd bite.
Wish they'd do this kind of thing for truly epic and entertaining events like Annihilation.
This was a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to SI finally starting. I've honestly grown bored with all of the hype and the months (years?) of build-up leading to this, but SI looks like it's going to be a great story.
Crimson
03-31-2008, 03:17 AM
Seems a bit of a waste to kill Dugan off in Origins by having him stabbed by Wolverine-Lite, bringing him back and then stabbing him in the chest again.
I like Dugan, so I hope Fury and co grabbed him when the Skrull left.
Karl H
03-31-2008, 03:29 AM
Ha.
One line from Cage. That's why I love the man.
Obviously it'll all go horribly wrong but frankly I don't care.
wilsonRfrost
04-01-2008, 11:39 AM
does anyone knows if and where it got published?
the free seven pages prolouge to the Secret Invasion?
Will.S
04-01-2008, 11:58 AM
It's web exclusive and isn't going to be published with the first issue of Secret Invasion.
Most likely it'll be put into a trade or hardback.
Rahul
04-01-2008, 12:00 PM
Link please?
I'm totally staying off the web with regards to SI, but this prologue I gotta read!!!
Will.S
04-01-2008, 12:04 PM
Link please?
I'm totally staying off the web with regards to SI, but this prologue I gotta read!!!
http://www.marvel.com/digitalcomics/titles/Secret_Invasion_Prologue.2008.1
Should be free and accessible now to anyone. No more annoying log in messages.
Rahul
04-01-2008, 12:09 PM
Thanks Will!
Rollo_Tomasi
04-01-2008, 02:25 PM
is CBR creating a "Secret Invasion" board?
bjtrdff
04-01-2008, 06:31 PM
They desperately need to. If they make one for WWH, and keep one for Hulk and his once every 2 months book, they should have one for this.
Will.S
04-01-2008, 07:48 PM
is CBR creating a "Secret Invasion" board?
Not that I know of.
They desperately need to. If they make one for WWH, and keep one for Hulk and his once every 2 months book, they should have one for this.
Nahh, I think we'll be ok without a dedicated forum. The thing with Secret Invasion is that it's sooooo spread out over the MU, check it out.
Avengers forums:
New Avengers (SI tie in)
Mighty Avengers (SI tie in)
Avengers: The Initiative (SI tie in)
Ms. Marvel
Marvel forum:
Secret Invasion (main mini series)
Secret Invasion: Fantastic Four
Secret Invasion: Inhumans
Secret Invasion: Runaways/Young Avengers
Secret Invasion: Who Do you Trust? One-Shot
Captain Marvel (SI tie in)
Captain Britain & MI:13 #1 (SI tie in)
New Thunderbolts (SI tie in)
New Warriors (SI tie in)
Black Panther (SI tie in)
Hulk forum:
Incredible Hercules (SI tie in)
She-Hulk (SI tie in)
Spider-Man forum:
Secret Invasion: Spider-Man (I *think* this is either getting a dedicated mini series or it's going to be another New Avengers spotlight issue during Secret Invasion)
X-Men forum:
Secret Invasion: X-Men
X-Factor (SI tie in)
It's insane! Plus I think the Civil War boards got too incestuous for it's own good which turned me off from participating in it later on unless it was about the CW mini series proper.
bjtrdff
04-01-2008, 09:28 PM
Every other event has gotten it's own forum, including civil war, which encompassed as many other books, if not more. So I would argue that the 'so spread out' rationale doesn't really apply.
There's still room for discussion in individual forums, but there should be a main 'Secret Invasion' forum. It's not like it's insanely hard to make or obtrusive, and it lets people get to where they want instead of combing through 18 different threads in 5 different forums.
Bryson the Red
04-01-2008, 09:43 PM
Really I'm fine with whatever. I think I would prefer that SI got it's own forum, because of the spread out thing. I think it would make it easier on people, especially new comers to just pop into one forum to see all the different books involved in SI instead of hunting each one down. I know I joined around Civil War time and I thought it was so cool, and so much easier to just drop into Civil War forums to find all the info I was interested in at the time. I can also see how the mods might not want the extra work.
TotalWorldDomination
04-01-2008, 09:59 PM
Really I'm fine with whatever. I think I would prefer that SI got it's own forum, because of the spread out thing. I think it would make it easier on people, especially new comers to just pop into one forum to see all the different books involved in SI instead of hunting each one down. I know I joined around Civil War time and I thought it was so cool, and so much easier to just drop into Civil War forums to find all the info I was interested in at the time. I can also see how the mods might not want the extra work.
Agreed. The presence of the CW forum was crucial to my enjoyment of the forum when I started out here. I hope they decide to do a SI forum.
madrox1977
04-02-2008, 05:45 AM
Can someone do a good recap of what happened as i have signed up for marvel digital comics and now nothing comes up when i try to load the prologue....... getting really annoyed with marvel.
TotalWorldDomination
04-02-2008, 08:20 AM
Ok- Starts out with some SHEILD agents getting plastered in a bar shortly after the events of Cap 25.
Namless SHEILD Agent One is pissed that Cap is dead and lays the blame on Nick Fury "Abandoning them". He claims that if fury was still around, none of this would have happened, hence, this is all fury's fault. Nameless SHEILD Agent Two tells him to quiet down cause Dum-Dum Dugan is at the same bar and he was Fury's right hand man. Dugan storms out.
Dugan runs into the Contessa, Fury's Deputy Director during much of his tenure at SHIELD. She asks fury where Dugan is, he says he assumed Fury was with her, that they "Ran off together" after years of sexual tension. She says no, he inisists that he dosn't know what happened to fury. She manifests wolverine's claws, kills him, warps into him and (we are left to assume) replaces him.
EDIT- It might be important to note that the New Skrull-Dugan (Skrugan? Dugull? Skrum-Skrum?)'s last words are "Don't Worry. He Loves You." I'd assume he/she/it was talking about God, but who knows?
bjtrdff
04-02-2008, 08:23 AM
No skrull could successfully imitate a moustache that full and manly.
TotalWorldDomination
04-02-2008, 08:25 AM
Newsarama's got a list of things from Bendis to keep in mind for Secret Invasion.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=152226
Why the man insists on making it seem like Stark might be a skrull when Brevehoort said point blank he wasn't is beyond me...
TotalWorldDomination
04-02-2008, 08:27 AM
No skrull could successfully imitate a moustache that full and manly.
Well, that was our first clue. His mustache has wilted and become 70's-ish in demeanor in recent years rather then it's full barbershop Handlebarian potential. Meanwhile, Electra's mustache disappeared completely, and not because of her frequent waxing, just after her replacement. It may be odd, but the skrulls just don't get facial hair...
bjtrdff
04-02-2008, 09:43 AM
*nods in agreement
And I must say, that version of Captain American that briefly appeared with a long, curly moustache seemed vaguely unsettling for some reason.
ShaggyB
04-02-2008, 10:33 AM
Is this the thread for spoilers, itching to know if Mr. Anonymous was right.
gorthon616
04-02-2008, 10:48 AM
Newsarama's got a list of things from Bendis to keep in mind for Secret Invasion.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=152226
Why the man insists on making it seem like Stark might be a skrull when Brevehoort said point blank he wasn't is beyond me...
Maybe it's a double entendre on "Who do you trust?" i.e. it's not just referring to the story but also to Bendis and Brevehoort.... which would be the most clever thing about the storyline so far... :rolleyes:
I kid. From what I've seen so far there are things I don't like about the storytelling, but I must say I've taken a 180 on how interested I am in this thing.
bjtrdff
04-02-2008, 10:48 AM
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=152235
Newsarama has a spoiler thread. I haven't read the book yet, but I'm don;t want to be the one to transfer it over and have 50 people whine and cry about how they were innocently reading an internet message board thread about secret invasion and had it shockingly spoiled.
ShaggyB
04-02-2008, 11:05 AM
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=152235
Newsarama has a spoiler thread. I haven't read the book yet, but I'm don;t want to be the one to transfer it over and have 50 people whine and cry about how they were innocently reading an internet message board thread about secret invasion and had it shockingly spoiled.
no worries i transfered it over.
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?p=6618861#post6618861
Remember the link contains spoilers.
bjtrdff
04-02-2008, 01:08 PM
Oh God, Why Would You Spoil It!?
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