Psylocke Appreciation Thread

[Domo Goddess]

WELCOME TO A WORLD OF WONDER!

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/Tweak_Jean_to_Betsy_by_lsyw.jpg

Elizabeth Braddock has gone through many changes in her life. Supermodel. Charter Pilot. Secret Agent. Britain's premiere superhero. X-Man. Ninja Assassin. Exiled. And back home again. But through it all she has prevailed.

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Here in this haven, all things Betsy shall be discussed. From loves and mishaps, favorite moments, tried times, and lines crossed. Quotes, friendships, power switches, body swaps, and what may lie ahead.

Here in this place we shall celebrate Elizabeth Gloriana Braddock!

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Psylocke

Name: Elizabeth "Betsy" Braddock
Aliases: Lady Mandarin, Captain Briatin
Species: Mutant(Got some Otherworlder up in her too)
Team Affiliations: Lots.
Powers & Abilities: Has swicthed a lot(i.e. Crimson Dawn, precognition, psycho-blast, etc.) Right now, Telekinesis, telepathy, psychic knife.

Links to some fun Stuff:
The Psylocke Page (http://psylocke.club.fr/news.html)
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psylocke)
Psylocke: Like a Butterfly Blogspot (http://psylocke-butterfly.blogspot.com/)
Psylocke's On the Vine (http://www.comicvine.com/psylocke/29-3176/)

[Brian M.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vgsjRumiU0

Song for Psylocke

[Saturius]

British Betsy was the best. A somewhat shady character who wanted to be appreciated for her tenacity but was always held back by the perceptions people had about her upbringing and background. I loved that she had less qualms about using her telepathy in nefarious( I don;t get to say that word oftern ^_^) ways. I loved that she wanted to be a warrior but her telepathy didn't really suit that "action junkie" persona she wanted to have.

[mattbib]

I thought this (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=181530&highlight=psylocke) was the Psylocke appreciation thread... :confused:

[Brian M.]

I thought this (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=181530&highlight=psylocke) was the Psylocke appreciation thread... :confused:

Like anyone uses the Search function on CBR anymore.

[Domo Goddess]

That thread is long dead and I did search.

http://www.freewebs.com/eternaljack/1Psylocke.jpg

If it gets closed, so be it.

[gorthon616]

British Betsy was the best. A somewhat shady character who wanted to be appreciated for her tenacity but was always held back by the perceptions people had about her upbringing and background. I loved that she had less qualms about using her telepathy in nefarious( I don;t get to say that word oftern ^_^) ways. I loved that she wanted to be a warrior but her telepathy didn't really suit that "action junkie" persona she wanted to have.

I never even knew British Betsy, but she does seem more interesting than my memories of pseudo Asian Betsy.... I mean outside of my general love for asian chicks.

[Phil Hunn]

I initially liked Asian Betsy, but my hunger for back issues soon convinced me that British Betsy was leagues better, and had cooler uses for her powers than just stabbing people in the head with them. She beat Sabretooth!

That, and British Betsy pwned her team of X-Men all by herself in a training situation. Asian Betsy would probably just have got beaten up.

[Kage Kisaragi]

I don't know, I just think they went about the asian assassin body thing wrong.

I do still honestly believe a ninja like telepathic mutant can work. However switching the body to a asian ninja shouldn't make her anymore ninja-like than any non asian dressing up like a ninja.

In other words, they could have simply used her telepathy to download Sticks/Dare Devils or any other super ninja-like stealth characters training into Betsy, and let her physical get her own body into the necessary shape to pull it off. (not that it looked like she needed to.)

Anyone thinks Spoiler looks a lot like classic Betsy?

[metalgorgomon]

I dunno whether this thread will be merged with the old thread. Just hope that the thread won't be deleted..

Regarding British Psylocke.. I'd love to see this version of her. Maybe in New Exiles??

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/__hr_Page10.jpg

She's really beatiful. A bit tomboy but beautiful..:D

[Callisto]

Discuss Psylocke's accomplishments


hmmmm her complete disembowlment by sabertooth? her death at the hands of vargas? her leaving her hideous yet fragile british body to steal the bodyof a japanese sex kitten?causing every telepath to temporarilly lose there telepathy due to her idiotic battle with the shadowking? her whoring her body to fellow x-men thunderbird,warren,cyclops and possibly even gambit? the lists of things she's accomplished are endless.:rolleyes:

[Brett P]

Psylocke. She has the purple hair. Hair of the purple.

Currently fails as the puppet of CC. C of the C.

Yup.

I liked her as the telepathic asian ninja. I really don't understand why they made her a tk. She must have the most convulted history of all X characters.

[Phil Hunn]

I don't know, I just think they went about the asian assassin body thing wrong.

I do still honestly believe a ninja like telepathic mutant can work. However switching the body to a asian ninja shouldn't make her anymore ninja-like than any non asian dressing up like a ninja.

This is what really gets me. Why would Betsy become an instant ninja death-machine just through getting the body of an Asian woman?

hmmmm her complete disembowlment by sabertooth?

Because the glow didn't work anymore thanks to Wolverine shoving a claw through Sabretooth's head. Had that not happened, she'd have been fine.

her death at the hands of vargas?

This, you can have. Not creating telekinetic shields when fighting a guy with a honking great broadsword was the height of impetuous stupidity.

her leaving her hideous yet fragile british body to steal the bodyof a japanese sex kitten?

One, she didn't "steal" that body, it was forced on her by Spiral. Two, her British body was not hideous. She was a model, for crying out loud...

causing every telepath to temporarilly lose there telepathy due to her idiotic battle with the shadowking?

Which left the Shadow King imprisoned on the astral plane. Fair price to pay, I think - especially considering that every other telepath got their powers back eventually anyway.

her whoring her body to fellow x-men thunderbird,warren,cyclops and possibly even gambit?

She never had sex with Cyclops OR Gambit (thanks to Kwannon's influence, she wanted to have sex with Scott, but she never did. She kissed him once, but that was it). And I fail to see how having a long-term, loving relationship with Warren qualifies as "whoring herself out". Hell, even the Dimwit never paid her for having sex with her.

Methinks you're exaggerating just a touch...

[metalgorgomon]

I love how Grummet draws her Katana. It's not a solid one as many artists have drawn before.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/NEWEX4_5.jpg

[Don Quixote]

her whoring her body to fellow x-men thunderbird,warren,cyclops and possibly even gambit? the lists of things she's accomplished are endless.:rolleyes:

Hey, Gambit only ever alluded to dancing with and kissing her. Though he clearly had a bit of a thing for her for a while after joining the team.

I like Asian Betsy, myself. Never really saw British Betsy, though, so I don't really have a reference for her.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Regarding British Psylocke.. I'd love to see this version of her. Maybe in New Exiles??

She's really beatiful. A bit tomboy but beautiful..:D

Blond Psylocke is very hard to come by. Largely because there really weren't that many issues she was involved with before her dye job, under Alan Moore. But yes, she really should BE blond again.

[metalgorgomon]

Blond Psylocke is very hard to come by. Largely because there really weren't that many issues she was involved with before her dye job, under Alan Moore. But yes, she really should BE blond again.

Oh... I would looove to see Blond Betsy again. I just drool looking at the picture I posted in #10 (from Uncanny #256). That picture showed Betsy kinda wearing some sort of rings? Maybe it was the Mandaring rings? Would love to see this version of Betsy as Lady Mandarin as what is hinted in the solicit of New Exiles #7.

[DeniseXfrost]

Appreciate Psylocke as a telepath.

[Slung]

I really dig Psylocke when she was the British telepath. That was cool. I'm less drawn to her as the ninja. And the telekinetic ninja is even less interesting to me. Not sure why.

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/4000/3176/158058-psylocke_400.jpg

[DeniseXfrost]

^Nice shoes.

I like her with the signature butterfly effect.

[CmX]

Davis always drew Psylocke in cute dresses, I loved it.

And CC needs to quit jerking her around and just revert her to a telepath. This tk shit ain't working out.

And I severly miss the butterfly signature! It was really unique to her and a nice visual.

Ugh, whatever :(

[Christopher O]

They should bring back Kwannon and let her be Psylocke and Asian because I'm not a fan of the whole faux minority shtick. That's assuming they want to hold onto the Asian version because of wider marketability and recognition. Personally, I think the entire concept of Ninja Psylocke fails, from Dragon Lady act to lame ass psychic swords. Plus, it would free up old school Betsy for Excalibur! I love me some old school Bets!!!

[Kage Kisaragi]

I'll say it again, Telepathic Ninja's can work!! but telekinesis not so much, since it removes the necessity of having to be stealthy and or covert.

Also I think CC is leaving her with the TK powers because having TK automatically makes you a Superman, I mean think about. Not to derail the topic or anything but the minute a mutant gets TK powers it's like getting the golden ticket of mutant powers. Just look at characters like Jean Grey, Rachel Grey, Justice and Hellion. They do Superman phenomenal feats, and I think CC wants Betsy to be that uber TK chick. Didn't see once blow up a mountain with TK? I thought I remember someone saying that she did.

Powers along that nature do not promote ninja/assassin like qualities, hard TK katanas aren't helping either.

I don't know old Betsy, all I was ever introduced to was Ninja/Assassin Betsy and while like said before I DO 100% believe a telepathy empowered mutant who had ninja/assassin like training would be hot #$%^ I do concur that TK Betsy is just another flash in the pan even with her asian good looks and glowly katanas.

[Shade101]

Chris Claremont had a real problem with trying to change everyone's ethnicity. He also tried to change Ororo's ethnicity to be a "little bit of everything".

[Shade101]

Anyways, here's a Psylocke pic I drew...

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg116/Dukkus/Psylocke.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

I'll say it again, Telepathic Ninja's can work!! but telekinesis not so much, since it removes the necessity of having to be stealthy and or covert.


Powers along that nature do not promote ninja/assassin like qualities, hard TK katanas aren't helping either.

I don't know old Betsy, all I was ever introduced to was Ninja/Assassin Betsy and while like said before I DO 100% believe a telepathy empowered mutant who had ninja/assassin like training would be hot #$%^ I do concur that TK Betsy is just another flash in the pan even with her asian good looks and glowly katanas.

I come to love Psylocke when she was a Telepathic Ninja. Power-wise I think the TP kindda suits the Ninja ability. And I totally love the Butterfly Aura.

Nonetheless, I also think TK would also suits the Ninja Ability-given the right use of it.
A Ninja TK should not use TK like other generic TK users do. Usually TK-ers use TK to fly/smash/move things among other stuff. IMO, a Ninja TK should use the TK to complement their ability such as stealth/speed/secret weapons and deadly strikes. Of course they can also fly, but a ninja would prefer go running and bouncing the other places cause flying will make yourself noticeable to other parties (opponent).
I think Psylocke uses the TK to bend light and making her invisible is the right ability for a ninja. But it should be introduced waay earlier when she was first had the TK or developing it since then.


Also I think CC is leaving her with the TK powers because having TK automatically makes you a Superman, I mean think about. Not to derail the topic or anything but the minute a mutant gets TK powers it's like get draw the golden ticket of mutant powers. Just look at characters like Jean Grey, Rachel Grey, Justice and Hellion. They do Superman phenomenal feats, and I think CC wants Betsy to be that uber TK chick. Didn't see once blow up a mountain with TK? I thought I remember someone saying that she did.
.

I don't specifically know what was CC intention in making her having TK. But after ressurection she had this powerful TK (but less control)?
The powerful TK was shown once during the HOM Uncanny when she smashed an entire building by her TK Katana and in Wandering Star arc (Uncanny) when she and Rachel sync their TK to hold and deflect a Shiar Energy Beam that was suppose to destroy an entire city.

I personally do not like the idea of Psylocke having a powerful TK. Having a limited one but highly skilled in it would suits her better.
But I've heard somewhere that originally CC planned her to be in her original body when Psylocke was to be ressurected (and possibly telepath). If that's true, it's too bad since probably CC wouldn't quite get it right in writing a Ninja-TK Psylocke since he prefer the telepathic one.

The thing is.. athough Betsy has the ability of ninja (its martial arts) I don't really think that it fits her nature at all. She is always consider herself as a Warrior and IMO Warrior and Ninja contradicts each other. At heart she is more like a Samurai, a japanese martial artist that honor battles and have certain ethiquette in engaging battles. It sort of explain the 'action junkie' nature better since she doesn't even act like a ninja other than having the martial arts.

[booga]

not frivolous at all i see

[Tazirai]

That thread is long dead and I did search.

http://www.freewebs.com/eternaljack/1Psylocke.jpg

If it gets closed, so be it.

I tried to keep to alive, but I failed.

http://www.ericdsnider.com/images/fail.jpg

I just ran out of nice things to say , or rather tried to say about the Nimbo.

I gave up because of /shrug. Hell I dislike the nimbette that much.

It got depressing, reporting on her nimbotic misadventures.

I had to take a break from her.

[metalgorgomon]

C'Mon Taz... keep the spirit alive..
BTW, the old thread rocked! There are some awesome pictures of our beloved Betsy.


@Shade101, That is a lovely picture of Betsy. Any chance you have her in a long dress :) :)

[Shade101]

C'Mon Taz... keep the spirit alive..
BTW, the old thread rocked! There are some awesome pictures of our beloved Betsy.


@Shade101, That is a lovely picture of Betsy. Any chance you have her in a long dress :) :)

Lol, not at the moment. Do you mean something like evening wear?

[metalgorgomon]

Lol, not at the moment. Do you mean something like evening wear?

Yes please :) Or something that she would wear in a Royal party or something :D

You're a great artist, Shade. I think I saw some of your pics. And your Storm was just gorgeous!

[DeniseXfrost]

I love how Grummet draws her Katana. It's not a solid one as many artists have drawn before.
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/NEWEX4_5.jpg
Yeah the solid katana really annoys me, hell everything about current Betsy annoys me.

[Michael Sean]

I find Psylocke an interesting character. In comics and soap operas in general characters go through changes. Sometimes drastic changes. However usually they revert back to their original configuration.

Not so much for Psylocke. I don't know if she could get a reboot at this stage.

Though I would like her to be a telepath again and never understood why Claremont made her a tk. I mean the only explanation to the power swap was in Black Sun, and every other mention of it elsewhere seem to imply she was a latent telekinetic.

At any rate I do like Psylocke and think she's a cool character. Though she's kinda all over the place.

[Shade101]

Yes please :) Or something that she would wear in a Royal party or something :D

You're a great artist, Shade. I think I saw some of your pics. And your Storm was just gorgeous!

Thank you very very much Metal! I really appreciate that! I still have loads more pics to draw for other people. But as soon as I'm done with those, I'll be sure to work on that Psylocke for you! ;) Also, I'm participating in the CBRunway. So if you wanna see more of my work, visit some of the challenges and you'll see more of my designs!

[metalgorgomon]

I love Ninja Psylocke (but also love the British English Rose Psylocke).. The old thread posted a lot of her pics during her British days. So I'll probably post a lot of her pics after being Ninja-fied. :D
Here is one of my favorite picture of her as Lady Mandarin (UXM #257 cover) right after her transformation in Uncanny #256.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/__hr_Cover.jpg

I dunno which version of Lady Mandarin will appear in New Exiles #7. Hopefully it will be as badass as this one. A Blond one would be great

[DDM]

Though I would like her to be a telepath again and never understood why Claremont made her a tk. I mean the only explanation to the power swap was in Black Sun, and every other mention of it elsewhere seem to imply she was a latent telekinetic.



Psylocke's lost telepathy is mentioned in Uncanny X-Men #455-456 when she mysteriously turns up alive in Spain where she died; Betsy's dreamscape personifies Betsy's lost telepathy as a ruined room that has not been restored to its proper place & time. In this same dreamscape, a flash of Betsy's former self is seen in a reflection before she sees her familiar Asian-self:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97792366288.455.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97792366288.456.GIF

I would personally like Psylocke to regain her telepathy at some point soon, although I don't think it is going to happen.

[For the Good of X]

Ninja Psylocke didn't just BECOME a ninja via retcon transformation into an Asian woman.

In pre-Kwannon continuity, it's clearly stated in the Lady Mandarin trilogy (UXm 256-258, Claremont/Lee/Williams) that Betsy has undergone weeks/months of ninja training by the Hand, as well as psychic and sorcerous brainwashing transformation. Remember that Betsy's emergence from the Siege Perilous as depicted in 254/255 of Uncanny is not time synchronous with ongoing X-events at the time. The Perilous tossed the X-Men all over the place. By the time Jubilee and Wolverine make it to Hong Kong, it's been months since their escape from Austraila and Betsy's reappearance.

The Kwannon body switch thing was added by later writers, lord knows why. The original triolgy indicates that Betsy was psychically/magickally transformed into an Asian woman/warrior/ninja assassin. I suppose the body switch seemed a clever twist at the time, but it was really total nonsense that should never have been approved.

[Phil Hunn]

Ninja Psylocke didn't just BECOME a ninja via retcon transformation into an Asian woman.

Well, yeah, she did. If it's not shown on-panel, then it's been skipped over in order to get the character where the writer wants them to be. Hence Betsy did "just become" a ninja.

[DDM]

Ninja Psylocke didn't just BECOME a ninja via retcon transformation into an Asian woman.

In pre-Kwannon continuity, it's clearly stated in the Lady Mandarin trilogy (UXm 256-258, Claremont/Lee/Williams) that Betsy has undergone weeks/months of ninja training by the Hand, as well as psychic and sorcerous brainwashing transformation. Remember that Betsy's emergence from the Siege Perilous as depicted in 254/255 of Uncanny is not time synchronous with ongoing X-events at the time. The Perilous tossed the X-Men all over the place. By the time Jubilee and Wolverine make it to Hong Kong, it's been months since their escape from Austraila and Betsy's reappearance.

The Kwannon body switch thing was added by later writers, lord knows why. The original triolgy indicates that Betsy was psychically/magickally transformed into an Asian woman/warrior/ninja assassin. I suppose the body switch seemed a clever twist at the time, but it was really total nonsense that should never have been approved.

You're correct. Psylocke's telepathy also made her become a ninja assassin that much easier since she absorbed the knowledge directly from her weeks or months of mystical brainwashing, although she still had to train herself to be the master assassin the Hand wanted Betsy to be as Lady Mandarin.

Uncanny X-Men #256 also makes it clear to the reader Betsy's own body is transformed by the Hand, but the real source is actually Mojo & Spiral.

Kwannon is just one terrible migraine of a character because her purpose is to be a deus ex machina to somehow explain Betsy's transformation when the storyline is completely redundant.

[Flameworthy]

British Betsy was the bomb! Her character just went down hill after her transformation in to skanky ninja whore. Honestly, I know well never get TP British Betsy back, so I'd just rather keep in her in Exiles with CC where he can convolute her even more and just have somebody bring back Revanche and have her be the resident telepathic ninja.

[Phil Hunn]

Uncanny X-Men #256 also makes it clear to the reader Betsy's own body is transformed by the Hand, but the real source is actually Mojo & Spiral.

The one issue Fabian Nicieza doesn't own.

Funnily enough.

British Betsy was the bomb! Her character just went down hill after her transformation in to skanky ninja whore.

It's true, it's true.

*cries*

[DDM]

British Betsy was the bomb! Her character just went down hill after her transformation in to skanky ninja whore. Honestly, I know well never get TP British Betsy back, so I'd just rather keep in her in Exiles with CC where he can convolute her even more and just have somebody bring back Revanche and have her be the resident telepathic ninja.

Betsy did not become a "skank" until Chris Claremont left the X-Men books. Betsy is a former fashion model & is very beautiful; however, other writers--not knowing what to do with her--made her wallpaper & turned up the sex bomb mode with her rather than go the action junkie route.

Revanche is not a real character. She was introduced to explain Psylocke's transformation into a ninja then conveniently died of Legacy Virus months later when the so-called truth is known. Reintroducing Revanche would create more problems than anything else.

Psylocke is not really that convoluted a character once the Crimson Dawn mess & the Revanche albatross are gone.

[DDM]

The one issue Fabian Nicieza doesn't own.

Funnily enough.

Well, that's his excuse; still, it does not make the Kwannon/Revanche story any less revolting a concept.

I'm just glad Fabien Nicieza did not have to write Lady Deathstrike's origin from normal woman to adamantium cyborg when Spiral transformed her in Uncanny X-Men #205. Nicieza's idea my have come from some kind of adamantium car that talks! :rolleyes:

[Flameworthy]

Psylocke is not really that convoluted a character once the Crimson Dawn mess & the Revanche albatross are gone.

Really? So I guess becoming a ninja in the first place wasn't convoluted then? Neither was the power switch with Jean, or the her return from death thanks to Jamie?


Revanche is not a real character. She was introduced to explain Psylocke's transformation into a ninja then conveniently died of Legacy Virus months later when the so-called truth is known. Reintroducing Revanche would create more problems than anything else.


So you say, but she's still less convoluted than Psylocke, and ten times the character Betsy will ever be again.

[DDM]

Really? So I guess becoming a ninja in the first place wasn't convoluted then? Neither was the power switch with Jean, or the her return from death thanks to Jamie?

Psylocke becoming a ninja is not anymore convoluted than Rogue stealing Ms. Marvel's psyche & powers. Reading comics requires the reader to have more than a pulse. Uncanny X-Men used to be one of them.



So you say, but she's still less convoluted than Psylocke, and ten times the character Betsy will ever be again.

Revanche is Psylocke. Alan Moore, Jamie Delano, & Chris Claremont already did the hard work of developing her character. That's why Revanche is not a true character.

[Domo Goddess]

http://www.freewebs.com/eternallareine/1Psylocke.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternallareine/1Psylocke2.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternallareine/19X%2DMENpages20%2B21.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

Thank you very very much Metal! I really appreciate that! I still have loads more pics to draw for other people. But as soon as I'm done with those, I'll be sure to work on that Psylocke for you! ;) Also, I'm participating in the CBRunway. So if you wanna see more of my work, visit some of the challenges and you'll see more of my designs!

I would definitely check your work in the CBRunway, Shade. That thread is great. So many great artitsts. Good luck for the competition! I'll be looking forward for your future works, especially Betsy in an evening gown :)

[Flameworthy]

Psylocke becoming a ninja is not anymore convoluted than Rogue stealing Ms. Marvel's psyche & powers. Reading comics requires the reader to have more than a pulse. Uncanny X-Men used to be one of them.

How is becoming a ninja and switching ethnicities the same thing as Rogue gaining the Ms. Marvel abilities? Rogue's powers are to steal other people's powers. There's nothing convoluted about that.

Either way, that still leaves her power switch with Jean, which really makes no sense at all, and her revival at the hands of Jamie where she now has the added power of immunity from mind control and the like. Despite the fact that she is no longer a telepath.


Revanche is Psylocke. Alan Moore, Jamie Delano, & Chris Claremont already did the hard work of developing her character. That's why Revanche is not a true character.

Did you even read the issue's she appeared in? Once she got infected with the Legacy Virus, she was clearly shown with a separate personality different than Psylocke's. So what if she showed up in Betsy's old body. She was always her own character whether you like to think so or not.

[metalgorgomon]

Either way, that still leaves her power switch with Jean, which really makes no sense at all, and her revival at the hands of Jamie where she now has the added power of immunity from mind control and the like. Despite the fact that she is no longer a telepath.
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While I agree with you that the power switch with Jean kindda makes no sense, I would'nt call the 'close mind' as a power addition to her. She's now closed to all telephatic activity. Still unable to access her TP and cannot send or receive any telephatic calls. It's just like she is being 'disabled'. Of course it has the advantage from mind control and the like but also also has it's own disavantages.

[Flameworthy]

While I agree with you that the power switch with Jean kindda makes no sense, I would'nt call the 'close mind' as a power addition to her. She's now closed to all telephatic activity. Still unable to access her TP and cannot send or receive any telephatic calls. It's just like she is being 'disabled'. Of course it has the advantage from mind control and the like but also also has it's own disavantages.

Still I would say it's kind of needless addition for her character. Plus it just makes her come off as uber powerful and unstoppable like most of the other women CC writes.

[metalgorgomon]

http://www.freewebs.com/eternallareine/1Psylocke.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternallareine/19X%2DMENpages20%2B21.jpg

Nice images you posted there, Domo. It's always nice to see Psylocke first introduction to the X-Men. And I love her appearances with the Blue Team in the few first arcs of X-Men (2nd series) especially the one involving Omega Red. I should look later for some scans of Psylocke vs Omega Red :)

Looking at those images, whether she's British or Asian, she certainly has the same 'certain attribute'. :D

[Domo Goddess]

^ Thanks. :)

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/18Psylocke.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/236Betsy.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/271Psylocke.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

From what issue was you first pic from, Domo? So I noticed that Omega Red is you fave character :D

Here is another pic of Psylocke vs Omega Red:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/7-09.jpg

It's taken from X-Men #007 (2nd series).

[Domo Goddess]

Very nice picture!

Well, Omega Red is my second favorite character after Spiral. :D

The first scan is from X-MEN 18.
Psylocke vs. Soul Skinner is from X-MEN 19. I apologize about the quality of the third scan.

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/271Psylocke2.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

Very nice picture!

Well, Omega Red is my second favorite character after Spiral. :D

The first scan is from X-MEN 18.
Psylocke vs. Soul Skinner is from X-MEN 19. I apologize about the quality of the third scan.


No worries, Awesome picture you've just posted! It's been a while since the last time we saw Psylocke with guns.

I always wanted Psylocke to use real katana/sword instead of the TK sword. She should use the real katana and use the TP/TK creatively for other purposes.

Here's another pic from X-Men #007:
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/X-Men07p13-1.jpg

Katana + Psychic Knife = Awesome. Not to mention she also use TP to trick Omega Red.:D

[Domo Goddess]

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/271Psylocke3.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/271Psylocke4.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/272Psylocke.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/272Psylocke2.jpg

[DDM]

How is becoming a ninja and switching ethnicities the same thing as Rogue gaining the Ms. Marvel abilities? Rogue's powers are to steal other people's powers. There's nothing convoluted about that.

Psylocke's story is creative writing at its best. Here is woman who literally becomes her heart's desire to be the ultimate woman warrior, yet she betrays everything she believes to achieve her heart's desire. Since the Hand's source is an ancient, demonic evil, Betsy's physical form matches her inner transformation.

Rogue gained more than Ms. Marvel's powers in Avengers Annual #10; she literally gained a second powerful psyche--Carol Danvers--within her head. As a result, Carol Danvers would come out when Rogue was under a great amount of stress. It got to the point that Ms. Marvel would come out whenever Rogue could not handle being in charge anymore. Ms. Marvel is as different from Rogue as can be, yet they were bonded together permanently up until Uncanny X-Men #269. Rogue's story is dense due to her absorption of Ms. Marvel's powers & psyche. However, any reader with enough intelligence can figure all of these ideas out with ease.

The same applies to Psylocke.

Either way, that still leaves her power switch with Jean, which really makes no sense at all, and her revival at the hands of Jamie where she now has the added power of immunity from mind control and the like. Despite the fact that she is no longer a telepath.

Blame editorial interference. Chris Claremont has an unpublished story about Psylocke & Phoenix's power switch, but this was cancelled when Claremont shifted from Uncanny X-Men/X-Men to X-Treme X-Men. Chris Claremont then shifted this story aspect to Rachel Summers for his move back to Uncanny X-Men.





Did you even read the issue's she appeared in? Once she got infected with the Legacy Virus, she was clearly shown with a separate personality different than Psylocke's. So what if she showed up in Betsy's old body. She was always her own character whether you like to think so or not.

I read the stories. However, Revanche is still not a real character since most of her story is dependent on Psylocke; therefore, Revanche is Psylocke for all intents & purposes.

You have to ask yourself: Why was Revanche written out just as fast as she was introduced? Revanche is a deus ex machina to explain Psylocke's transformation from Uncanny X-Men #256. Period. However, in truth, Psylocke's transformation never needed to be explained because the story makes it clear in Uncanny X-Men #256 that Psylocke's body is transformed before she is brainwashed. There's no need for Kwannon to exist in the first place.

[jarrod]

The original Hand transformation was pretty straightforward honestly, and Spiral's influence being only Betsy's psychological response was intruiging I thought. It was Nicezia's heavy handed body swap/mind meld that really muddied the logic waters (both in terms of the process and for brining in Spiral full tilt to do things the Hand were fully capable of themselves) and basically destroyed Psylocke beyond recognition, nevermind Lobdell's equally nauseating Crimson Dawn animu-trash.

I thought the power swap was equally stupid and uneccesary though... I know Claremont wanted swift changes for the six month gap, but most of his Revolution concepts left a lot to be desired imo (Neo stabby Kitty, neutered priest Kurt, drug addict CeCe, Rogue touching Colossus, Thunderbird, etc).

It's a shame Claremont wasn't allowed to bring Betsy back the way he indended though in X-Treme (ie; british bodied and telepathic) though I do like that the resurrection subversively sidelined Nicezia's trainwreck (Jamie rebuilt Betsy ground up essentially, no "Kwannon" here). I'd still prefer Revanche and the Crimson Dawn being retconned away as Mojo's misdirection though...

[Tazirai]

Psylocke's story is creative writing at its best. Here is woman who literally becomes her heart's desire to be the ultimate woman warrior, yet she betrays everything she believes to achieve her heart's desire. Since the Hand's source is an ancient, demonic evil, Betsy's phystical form matches her inner transformation.

Rogue gained more than Ms. Marvel's powers in Avengers Annual #10; she literally gained a second powerful psyche--Carol Danvers--within her head. As a result, Carol Danvers would come out when Rogue was under a great amount of stress. It got to the point that Ms. Marvel would come out whenever Rogue could not handle being in charge anymore. Ms. Marvel is as different from Rogue as can be, yet they were bonded together permanently up until Uncanny X-Men #269. Rogue's story is dense due to her absorbtion of Ms. Marvel's powers & psyche. However, any reader with enough intelligence can figure all of these ideas out with ease.

The same applies to Psylocke.


I read the stories. However, Revanche is still not a real character since most of her story is dependent on Psylocke; therefore, Revanche is Psylocke for all intents & purposes.

You have to ask yourself: Why was Revanche written out just as fast as she was introduced? Revanche is a deus ex machina to explain Psylocke's transformation from Uncanny X-Men #256. Period. However, in truth, Psylocke's transformation never needed to be explained because the story makes it clear in Uncanny X-Men #256 that Psylocke's body is transformed before she is brainwashed. There's no need for Kwannon to exist in the first place.

I agree to both points.

It would have made sense for her to Become her hearts desire. But Psylocke has always been one to follow her beliefs. The transformation back to her "weak" self should have been the end result. Even though I don't consider her "weak" in regards to her Telepathy. She was top notch, and VERY resourceful.

They even hinted at her leading the X-men. Which would have made perfect sense. i wish they would have expounded on her leadership abilities more, before changing her.

[Callisto]

This is what really gets me. Why would Betsy become an instant ninja death-machine just through getting the body of an Asian woman? ...[/i]

it was clearly more then that didn't they meld her mind/body with that of sexy seductive assasin kwannon?



Because the glow didn't work anymore thanks to Wolverine shoving a claw through Sabretooth's head. Had that not happened, she'd have been fine....[/i]

so what? psylocke should have done her homework. besides shes a telepath what the hell is she doing trying to PHYSICALLY fight him anyway.



This, you can have. Not creating telekinetic shields when fighting a guy with a honking great broadsword was the height of impetuous stupidity.....[/i]


vargas is quite strong, the very slash of his sword knock over building. isn't it possible he may have broke through psylockes telekinetic shields?



One, she didn't "steal" that body, it was forced on her by Spiral. Two, her British body was not hideous. She was a model, for crying out loud........[/i]



she sure didn't seem very reluctant to the change. nor do i really remember betsy complaning once it was over. as for her british body, betsy may have been a model but shes a telepath she could have easily mentally forced people into letting her model for them. british betsy has always appeared hideous in my opinion the hairstyles facial expressions EVERYTHING.its no woner spiral and mojo felt they needed to give betsy some EXTENSIVE plastic surgery.



Which left the Shadow King imprisoned on the astral plane. Fair price to pay, I think - especially considering that every other telepath got their powers back eventually anyway.........[/i]


oh please, jean or the professeur could have easily dealt with the shadowking and caused much less of a ruckus.


She never had sex with Cyclops OR Gambit (thanks to Kwannon's influence, she wanted to have sex with Scott, but she never did. She kissed him once, but that was it). And I fail to see how having a long-term, loving relationship with Warren qualifies as "whoring herself out". Hell, even the Dimwit never paid her for having sex with her.[/i]



thanks to kwannons influence? or so betsy claims, judging from her whorish ways even after the whole kwannon mess i highly doubt it. infact i personally would not be surprised if betsy screwed cyclops behind the scenes or gambit or any other x-man really.and her "relationship" with warren didn't really last that long and didn't make much sense either really. neither did the one with the thunderbrat to be honest.

[Callisto]

Hey, Gambit only ever alluded to dancing with and kissing her. Though he clearly had a bit of a thing for her for a while after joining the team.

I like Asian Betsy, myself. Never really saw British Betsy, though, so I don't really have a reference for her.


i'm sure it was more then dancing and kissing.

[Callisto]

I'll say it again, Telepathic Ninja's can work!! but telekinesis not so much, since it removes the necessity of having to be stealthy and or covert.

Also I think CC is leaving her with the TK powers because having TK automatically makes you a Superman, I mean think about. Not to derail the topic or anything but the minute a mutant gets TK powers it's like getting the golden ticket of mutant powers. Just look at characters like Jean Grey, Rachel Grey, Justice and Hellion. They do Superman phenomenal feats, and I think CC wants Betsy to be that uber TK chick. Didn't see once blow up a mountain with TK? I thought I remember someone saying that she did.

Powers along that nature do not promote ninja/assassin like qualities, hard TK katanas aren't helping either.

I don't know old Betsy, all I was ever introduced to was Ninja/Assassin Betsy and while like said before I DO 100% believe a telepathy empowered mutant who had ninja/assassin like training would be hot #$%^ I do concur that TK Betsy is just another flash in the pan even with her asian good looks and glowly katanas.



i don't see how telepathy works with ninja abilities either. as a telepath her power pretty much realies on her not getting physical with her opponets. but with telekinesis it allows her to increase her strength plus slice objects.

[jarrod]

i don't see how telepathy works with ninja abilities either. as a telepath her power pretty much realies on her not getting physical with her opponets. but with telekinesis it allows her to increase her strength plus slice objects.
Ninjas though are more about stealth, illusion and strategy... it compliments telepathy perfectly really.

Psylocke's always been a pretty lousy ninja tbh...

[Callisto]

Ninjas though are more about stealth, illusion and strategy... it compliments telepathy perfectly really.

Psylocke's always been a pretty lousy ninja tbh...


psylocke can still be stealthy with her telekinesis [invisibility trick] the only thing you got is the illusion aspect. but i personally don't want to see betsy turn into the next lady mastermind. i like her as a tk, there are WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to many telepaths. and even though there are quite alot of tk it doesnt compare to the downright disgusting amount of telepaths.

[DDM]

I agree to both points.

It would have made sense for her to Become her hearts desire. But Psylocke has always been one to follow her beliefs. The transformation back to her "weak" self should have been the end result. Even though I don't consider her "weak" in regards to her Telepathy. She was top notch, and VERY resourceful.

They even hinted at her leading the X-men. Which would have made perfect sense. i wish they would have expounded on her leadership abilities more, before changing her.

Ninjas though are more about stealth, illusion and strategy... it compliments telepathy perfectly really.

Psylocke's always been a pretty lousy ninja tbh...

Psylocke's only real difference is she became more physical in battle, using her ninja skills to compliment her telepathy. For instance, in Uncanny X-Men #257, she used her telepathy to create the illusion she is one of the other assassin's allies then she used the Mandarin's rings to literally blast his head off. She used her telepathy again to alter the perceptions of her target once more in X-Men #2 (1991 series) then used her psychic knife to take him out.

Psylocke's telepathy is the perfect compliment with her physical ninja skills.

She did something similar before her transformation, but she would never get physical or in the heat of battle herself. Psylocke often did this with Rogue to alter her perceptions from a distance in their Danger Room sessions.

[Phil Hunn]

Either way, that still leaves her power switch with Jean, which really makes no sense at all, and her revival at the hands of Jamie where she now has the added power of immunity from mind control and the like. Despite the fact that she is no longer a telepath.

Not to mention her ability to influence other people telepathically with her telekinetic katana blade...

No worries, Awesome picture you've just posted! It's been a while since the last time we saw Psylocke with guns.

I've never seen those pics. Cool stuff :)

so what? psylocke should have done her homework. besides shes a telepath what the hell is she doing trying to PHYSICALLY fight him anyway.

Under Chris Claremont's pen, Betsy was always characterised as an action junkie. Using her martial arts instead of her powers was a typical tactic for post-Siege Betsy.

vargas is quite strong, the very slash of his sword knock over building. isn't it possible he may have broke through psylockes telekinetic shields?

In all honesty, no. If Betsy's telekinesis was as strong as CC told us, it should have weathered Vargas' blade for a lot longer than we saw the fight lasting.

she sure didn't seem very reluctant to the change. nor do i really remember betsy complaning once it was over.

She'd been given an instant martial-arts power-up, the sort of thing she'd wanted all her life. She probably should have been a touch more indignant over being so horribly abused by the Hand, but whatever.

as for her british body, betsy may have been a model but shes a telepath she could have easily mentally forced people into letting her model for them.

:rolleyes:

Reaching much?


oh please, jean or the professeur could have easily dealt with the shadowking and caused much less of a ruckus.

Well they weren't there. Betsy was.

Deal.

thanks to kwannons influence? or so betsy claims, judging from her whorish ways even after the whole kwannon mess i highly doubt it.

Whorish ways? Who'd she sleep with after Kwannon was disposed of? Let's see... oh yes, Warren and Neal. And she was engaged to Tom Lennox in Captain Britain's UK comics until he died.

Yeah, what a tramp.

infact i personally would not be surprised if betsy screwed cyclops behind the scenes or gambit or any other x-man really.

Except she wasn't, and she hasn't.

Deal.

and her "relationship" with warren didn't really last that long and didn't make much sense either really. neither did the one with the thunderbrat to be honest.

Her relationship with Warren made a lot more sense than your insistence that she was banging everything in sight.

i'm sure it was more then dancing and kissing.

Except it wasn't.

Deal.

[DDM]

I've never seen those pics. Cool stuff :)

Betsy with the machine gun is from Uncanny X-Men #272 when she convinces Commander Hodge to be a candidate for the gene-mod process; however, it's all a ruse for Cyclops, the X-Men & X-Factor to break free. Betsy provides the diversion when she uses her ninja skills on the Genoshan Magistrates.

Uncanny X-Men #271 features specifically Psylocke, Jubilee & Wolverine getting involved in Genosha & eventually reuniting with the other X-Men:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97792366288.271.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97792366288.272.GIF

Chris Claremont & Jim Lee's Uncanny X-Men #270-272 is the best parts from The X-Tinction Agenda...

[Domo Goddess]

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/1Betsy.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/2Betsy.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/3Betsy.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

Blame editorial interference. Chris Claremont has an unpublished story about Psylocke & Phoenix's power switch, but this was cancelled when Claremont shifted from Uncanny X-Men/X-Men to X-Treme X-Men. Chris Claremont then shifted this story aspect to Rachel Summers for his move back to Uncanny X-Men.


I didn't know that CC has the 'explanation story' unpublished regarding Psylocke & Phoenix power switch. Do you happen to know what was suppose to be the story is?



It's a shame Claremont wasn't allowed to bring Betsy back the way he indended though in X-Treme (ie; british bodied and telepathic) though I do like that the resurrection subversively sidelined Nicezia's trainwreck (Jamie rebuilt Betsy ground up essentially, no "Kwannon" here). I'd still prefer Revanche and the Crimson Dawn being retconned away as Mojo's misdirection though...

Indeed. It's quite a shame that he didn't get to bring Betsy back the way he wanted. That will almost kinda ruin his long term plan for the gal. And I think that it will deter his writing on her. He wanted to write the British-Telepathic Betsy but instead he has to write the Asian-TK Psylocke. I Think it sort of a lose-lose situation. IMO, it should be either the editors/Marvel granted CC to write the British-Telepathic one or they should give other writer (eg. Mike Carey) to write the Asian-TK Betsy.

it was clearly more then that didn't they meld her mind/body with that of sexy seductive assasin kwannon?

she sure didn't seem very reluctant to the change. nor do i really remember betsy complaning once it was over. as for her british body, betsy may have been a model but shes a telepath she could have easily mentally forced people into letting her model for them. british betsy has always appeared hideous in my opinion the hairstyles facial expressions EVERYTHING.its no woner spiral and mojo felt they needed to give betsy some EXTENSIVE plastic surgery.

vargas is quite strong, the very slash of his sword knock over building. isn't it possible he may have broke through psylockes telekinetic shields?



If you look closely, British Betsy body was always sexy and drawn not much different with the Asian one. The only ones that changed were the eyes, hair and her costume. They basically have the same big sexy ass :D

And I agree with you on Vargas. He's suppose to be the ultimate human and have strength above normal man. Moreover, Betsy's TK at that time was not as strong as hers after being resurrected.

[Bingo!]

My favorite Betsy has always been the Claremont/Lee Psylocke.

http://www.yanowhatimean.com/art/art_jleexact.jpg

I found her Hand outfit to be one of the best she ever wore. Her Psy-blade was such a fun concept. I loved how it was the "totality of her psychic powers." (although I got annoyed with her continually repeating that line each time she used it.)

If, and when, Psylocke is freed from Claremont's current mess, I'd love to see her come back as a strong, adventure hungry ninja. I bet she'd have been a perfect addition to X-Force.

[metalgorgomon]

Ninjas though are more about stealth, illusion and strategy... it compliments telepathy perfectly really.

Psylocke's always been a pretty lousy ninja tbh...

psylocke can still be stealthy with her telekinesis [invisibility trick] the only thing you got is the illusion aspect. but i personally don't want to see betsy turn into the next lady mastermind. i like her as a tk, there are WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to many telepaths. and even though there are quite alot of tk it doesnt compare to the downright disgusting amount of telepaths.

Psylocke's only real difference is she became more physical in battle, using her ninja skills to compliment her telepathy. For instance, in Uncanny X-Men #257, she used her telepathy to create the illusion she is one of the other assassin's allies then she used the Mandarin's rings to literally blast his head off. She used her telepathy again to alter the perceptions of her target once more in X-Men #2 (1991 series) then used her psychic knife to take him out.

Psylocke's telepathy is the perfect compliment with her physical ninja skills.

She did something similar before her transformation, but she would never get physical or in the heat of battle herself. Psylocke often did this with Rogue to alter her perceptions from a distance in their Danger Room sessions.

IMO either telepathic or telekenetic can be a complement to a Ninja on the arguments all of you've mentioned above.
But being a Ninja is not all about technique. Ninja is basically killers/assasins and they are the perfect tools for the job. They are quick/stealthy and an effective killer machine.

And Betsy doesn't suit that kind of personality. She always consider herself as a Warrior. She may have the ability/martial arts of a Ninja but she doesn't have the quality to make a Ninja since she doesn't kill and honour the code of fighting. She is more like a Samurai or a British Knight.

With that kind of personality IMO, the telephatic ability better suits the Ninja Betsy. Not that TK would not suit a Ninja since a TK Ninja would make him/herself invisible, increase their strength level and speed and be the perfect killing machine. It'll be very hardcore. Personally, I don't mind Betsy being that hardcore for once, if the story served well and make sense. But I don't think it suits her basic character. Yes, she's an action junckie but she ain't no killer.

[Tazirai]

IMO either telepathic or telekenetic can be a complement to a Ninja on the arguments all of you've mentioned above.
But being a Ninja is not all about technique. Ninja is basically killers/assasins and they are the perfect tools for the job. They are quick/stealthy and an effective killer machine.

And Betsy doesn't suit that kind of personality. She always consider herself as a Warrior. She may have the ability/martial arts of a Ninja but she doesn't have the quality to make a Ninja since she doesn't kill and honour the code of fighting. She is more like a Samurai or a British Knight.

With that kind of personality IMO, the telephatic ability better suits the Ninja Betsy. Not that TK would not suit a Ninja since a TK Ninja would make him/herself invisible, increase their strength level and speed and be the perfect killing machine. It'll be very hardcore. Personally, I don't mind Betsy being that hardcore for once, if the story served well and make sense. But I don't think it suits her basic character. Yes, she's an action junckie but she ain't no killer.

This is the Psylocke I would have loved to See.

The "Warrior" she always wanted to be.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/Niniri__s_Psykeye.jpg

[Domo Goddess]

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/18Betsy.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/18Betsy2.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/18Betsy3.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/1BetsypreX%2DMan.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

This is the Psylocke I would have loved to See.

The "Warrior" she always wanted to be.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/Niniri__s_Psykeye.jpg

THat's a very nice picture, Taz. I think I remember that picture from the old thread. Wonder whether she's telephatic, telekinetic or both? The little butterflies are cute :)

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/18Betsy.jpg


I totally love this picture. Betsy should definitely get her Butterfly Aura signature back. IMO she still could have it although being a telekinetic. Not to butterfly-ish, a bit abstract but it's there. Just like this picture.

And Thanks for the other pictures Domo.. What i love about your posts is you always post both the Ninja and British Betsy. And the British Betsy was always a badass. Hell, she's a STRIKE agent, right?

[Domo Goddess]

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/22Betsy.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

I love this next pic. Taken from Uncanny X-Men Annual 11. It's where DDM get his/her signature :D I believe this is the first time Betsy realise that her destiny and heart desire to be a warrior.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/UncannyX-MenAnnual11Page29.jpg

[Domo Goddess]

^ Very cool picture.

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/1BetsyInferno.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/1BetsyInferno2.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/1BetsyInferno3.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/1BetsyInferno4.jpg

[Phil Hunn]

I didn't know that CC has the 'explanation story' unpublished regarding Psylocke & Phoenix power switch. Do you happen to know what was suppose to be the story is?

Betsy & Jean were supposed to have switched powers while battling the Shadow King, I believe.

Indeed. It's quite a shame that he didn't get to bring Betsy back the way he wanted. That will almost kinda ruin his long term plan for the gal. And I think that it will deter his writing on her. He wanted to write the British-Telepathic Betsy but instead he has to write the Asian-TK Psylocke.

Well, CC was the one that gave her the telekinesis in the first place, so he can't have too many complaints about that.

If you look closely, British Betsy body was always sexy and drawn not much different with the Asian one. The only ones that changed were the eyes, hair and her costume. They basically have the same big sexy ass :D

I like big butts and I cannot lie.

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/1BetsyInferno4.jpg

Jean looks a little too happy here...

[DDM]

I didn't know that CC has the 'explanation story' unpublished regarding Psylocke & Phoenix power switch. Do you happen to know what was suppose to be the story is?

The power switch happens when Psylocke & Phoenix have one last encounter with the Shadow King on the astral plane; as a result, Psylocke gains Jean's telekinesis & Phoenix gains Betsy's telepathy. The Shadow King was to be affected as well, possibly resulting in his Elias Bogan persona. The story was to be published in Uncanny X-Men 2001 Annual as a second feature...

[Tazirai]

http://www.freewebs.com/eternalklaha/22Betsy.jpg

Looking at that picture makes me sad. I've also come to realize that many of the "ARTISTS" in the 90's were mad lazy. That pic of her armor is hellociously sucktastic. :(

[Domo Goddess]

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1BetsyInferno5.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1BetsyInferno6.jpg

[Shade101]

Great scans guys! I didn't realize how much of a fan I am of Psylocke!

[Domo Goddess]

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/04.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/10.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

My first exposure of Psylocke was through VIDEO GAMES!!
Here are some caps:

Psylocke in Marvel vs Capcom. Love this game!
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/psylockeMarvelvsCapcom.jpg



Psylocke in Marvel Superheroes. I was so addicted to this game.
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-MarvelSuperheroes.jpg



Just found out that British Betsy once featured in a Video Game. Wonder what the name of the game is?
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-Gameoldschool.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

More Psylocke's Video Games goodies:

Psylocke in X-Men Legend
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeX-MenLegend2.jpg


Revanche vs Psylocke:
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Revanche_vs_Psylocke.jpg


Psylocke in X-Men Mutant Apocalyse. This is exactly the Blue Team, right?
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-X-MenMutantApocalypse.gif

[metalgorgomon]

The lettered preview for New Exiles #4 is up at Comics Continuum.
Here is a page that featured Betsy:


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylockeinnewexiles45.jpg

[Domo Goddess]

X-MEN CHILDREN OF THE ATOM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgcqre_pcNc

TAS Promise of Apocalypse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT0ubgjLUUU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBjrJW0aj8U&feature=related

The name of the game that has British Betsy is X-Men 2:Fall of the Mutants.

[Phil Hunn]

Psylocke in X-Men Mutant Apocalyse. This is exactly the Blue Team, right?
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-X-MenMutantApocalypse.gif

I think that's the Blue Team without any omissions, yes. I can't recall any other members offhand...

[Divalykeprincess]

I think that's the Blue Team without any omissions, yes. I can't recall any other members offhand...



I think Rouge and Jubilee were on that team too.


(And, just because, I think the members of the gold team were: Storm, Xavier, Jean, Archangel, Iceman, Bishop, and I could be missing some people.) I miss those teams. :(

[CmX]

I think Rouge and Jubilee were on that team too.


(And, just because, I think the members of the gold team were: Storm, Xavier, Jean, Archangel, Iceman, Bishop, and I could be missing some people.) I miss those teams. :(

Me too even though the blue team was a lot cooler, ;D

[Phil Hunn]

I think Rouge and Jubilee were on that team too.

Yes, you're right. Damn my failing memory! :(

[Divalykeprincess]

Yes, you're right. Damn my failing memory! :(

Meh...No worries, it happens to the best of us. :)

[Michael Sean]

I think Rouge and Jubilee were on that team too.


(And, just because, I think the members of the gold team were: Storm, Xavier, Jean, Archangel, Iceman, Bishop, and I could be missing some people.) I miss those teams. :(

Don't forget Colossus! He was on the gold team.

Forge was also around but not an official member.

[Domo Goddess]

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1BetsyB.jpg

X-MEN Blue Team

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1BlueTeam.jpg

X-MEN Gold Team

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1GoldXMen.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/32Betsy.jpg

[CmX]

I've been looking for a new Psylocke avatar, but nothing good and I'm really bad at making them myself.

Can someone direct me to some Betsy avatars or possibly make me one? ;)

If so.. maybe add a touch of photoshop to enhance the color or background? Just no text on it.

Thanks! :)

[Domo Goddess]

Some Psylocke avatars can be found here

http://xmentas.proboards46.com/index.cgi?board=avatars&action=display&thread=1168982177

http://avatarity.com/category/87/Psylocke/

http://www.psy-strike.com/avatars.html

[Bingo!]

X-MEN Gold Team

Why the gold team? Betsy was never on the Gold team. Nor do I think was she ever seen in the pages of Uncanny while the gold team existed. I say lose 'em!

btw: thank you for giving Betsy this pleasant appreciation page. I've grown distant from her now that Claremont's toying with her.

[Domo Goddess]

People were talking about the Gold Team so I figured I should post a scan.

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1Betsyvs.Revanche.jpg

[Phil Hunn]

People were talking about the Gold Team so I figured I should post a scan.

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1Betsyvs.Revanche.jpg

I think I used to own a trading card with that image on it. It's a neat painting :)

[Bingo!]

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/pogobee/BananaAttack.jpg

Only in Excalibur would Psylocke be attacked by a banana.

[jarrod]

Me too even though the blue team was a lot cooler, ;D
I preferred Claremont's original planned teams (before Harras let the artists run wild and drove him from Marvel).

X-Men (w/Lee)
-Storm
-Wolverine
-Beast
-Forge
-Psylocke
-Rogue
-Guido
-Jubilee

Uncanny X-Men (w/Portacio)
-Xaiver
-Cyclops
-Phoenix
-Banshee
-Archangel
-Colossus
-Iceman
-Gambit

[metalgorgomon]

I've been looking for a new Psylocke avatar, but nothing good and I'm really bad at making them myself.

Can someone direct me to some Betsy avatars or possibly make me one? ;)

If so.. maybe add a touch of photoshop to enhance the color or background? Just no text on it.

Thanks! :)

I tried to make some Psylocke avatar. They may not be the best ones. Hope u like 'em:)

[metalgorgomon]

Me too even though the blue team was a lot cooler, ;D

Oh yea.. The Blue Team was definitely way cooler :D

Yes, you're right. Damn my failing memory! :(

I also forgot about Rogue :D She was a great in that team. I missed that Rogue as much as I miss Carey Rogue


I preferred Claremont's original planned teams (before Harras let the artists run wild and drove him from Marvel).

X-Men (w/Lee)
-Storm
-Wolverine
-Beast
-Forge
-Psylocke
-Rogue
-Guido
-Jubilee

Uncanny X-Men (w/Portacio)
-Xaiver
-Cyclops
-Phoenix
-Banshee
-Archangel
-Colossus
-Iceman
-Gambit

I preferred the actual Blue Team. Not too sure about having Guido on the Team. We already have 'Tank' Rogue.


Psylocke-Wolverine-Gambit, part of Blue Team in Action:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-Wolverine-Gambit.jpg

[Michael Sean]

Oh yea.. The Blue Team was definitely way cooler :D



I preferred the actual Blue Team. Not too sure about having Guido on the Team. We already have 'Tank' Rogue.


Psylocke-Wolverine-Gambit, part of Blue Team in Action:




Though the Gold Team had my favorite character in it (Jean Grey) even I have to admit the Blue Team was the cool team! Psylocke looked so good here and I thought she worked really well with that team.

If only the Gold team had been handled differently or even had their characters fleshed out a little.. but thats another discussion!

Love or dislike asian ninja besty you gotta admit she looked pretty HOT during the Blue Team days!

:cool:

[CmX]

Betsy always has the ability to look freak'n hot for some reason. :P

It's a shame the Blue/Gold teams didnt' last but what more than 10 issues ?

[Phil Hunn]

Love or dislike asian ninja besty you gotta admit she looked pretty HOT during the Blue Team days!

Not really. I like my superheroines to wear underpants when they're in costume ;)

[Don Quixote]

Not really. I like my superheroines to wear underpants when they're in costume ;)

You've got to admit, she'd have looked pretty daft wearing knickers underneath that costume, though.

To be honest, with the tightness of pretty much all superhero costumes, I doubt there's much in the way of underwear under any of them.

[Phil Hunn]

You've got to admit, she'd have looked pretty daft wearing knickers underneath that costume, though.

Which is precisely the reason why it should never have got past the planning stages. And presumably the reason why, in the free comic that came with her Marvel Legends figure, it was altered so it looked like bicycle shorts instead (although, bizarrely, the actual figure itself was not altered in the same way).

To be honest, with the tightness of pretty much all superhero costumes, I doubt there's much in the way of underwear under any of them.

All the more reason not to dress like a stripper, then ;)

[Don Quixote]

All the more reason not to dress like a stripper, then ;)

Hey, my first experience of Psylocke was opening a copy of Uncanny X-Men and seeing her thong clad arse sticking out of the page. Made a strong impression on my 12 year old mind, I can tell you.

She's far from alone in the awful costume department, though. But the most ridiculous part of that costume, for me, is that she takes the time to put all of those little bands of spandex on her arms and legs. It must take her ages to get ready for a mission.

I can just imagine the jump-suited Jean, Rogue and Storm bitching behind her back about how long they have to wait for her ass before they can go and fight the Brotherhood.

[Phil Hunn]

Hey, my first experience of Psylocke was opening a copy of Uncanny X-Men and seeing her thong clad arse sticking out of the page. Made a strong impression on my 12 year old mind, I can tell you.

Mine too. Then puberty stopped ;)

She's far from alone in the awful costume department, though.

Indeed. The Scarlet Witch fighting evil dressed like a belly-dancer takes the cake. Well, aside from the Wasp's endless craptacular costumes and Power Girl's "please look at my tits" viewing-window costume (which has led to some frightfully sexist stuff from her own bloody team-mates).

But the most ridiculous part of that costume, for me, is that she takes the time to put all of those little bands of spandex on her arms and legs. It must take her ages to get ready for a mission.

I can just imagine the jump-suited Jean, Rogue and Storm bitching behind her back about how long they have to wait for her ass before they can go and fight the Brotherhood.

LOL. Yeah, those things are really dumb. Stupid Hand costume...

[Anon_me]

She's far from alone in the awful costume department, though. But the most ridiculous part of that costume, for me, is that she takes the time to put all of those little bands of spandex on her arms and legs. It must take her ages to get ready for a mission.

Don't be silly; they were spray-painted on by a special machine she kept in her room. Speaking of Jean, I always wondered what function those metallic panels on her thigh served; they were usually coloured the same colour as the pants so they weren't even there for contrast.


To be honest, with the tightness of pretty much all superhero costumes, I doubt there's much in the way of underwear under any of them.

Now now....all the men have boxer briefs or briefs on under the spandex; as evident in the multiple instanced where they've been captured and stripped search by their enemies.

[Jordan D. White]

Psylocke-Wolverine-Gambit, part of Blue Team in Action:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-Wolverine-Gambit.jpg

Oh man...

I've seen this picture many times before, but for some reason, this was the first time I actually thought about the fact that Betsy is walking through RAW SEWAGE wearing that costume. Her bare skin is touching SEWAGE. Above the knees.

[Phil Hunn]

Oh man...

I've seen this picture many times before, but for some reason, this was the first time I actually thought about the fact that Betsy is walking through RAW SEWAGE wearing that costume. Her bare skin is touching SEWAGE. Above the knees.

Clearly, at the time it was published, Marvel had misunderstood the meaning of the term "dirty girl" :p

Or it was hoping to make all of Betsy's teenage-boy fans fantasise about her cleaning herself off in the shower.

One of the two...

[Callisto]

Well they weren't there. Betsy was.

Deal..


and what? betsy should have had sense to call them instead of causing a complete psionic disturbance.





Whorish ways? Who'd she sleep with after Kwannon was disposed of? Let's see... oh yes, Warren and Neal. And she was engaged to Tom Lennox in Captain Britain's UK comics until he died
Yeah, what a tramp...


you forget to mention cyclops and gambit and any other male x-man who psylocke has flirted with. it's only a matter of time before its revealed in th pages of x-men that she even screwed charles himself!


.

Deal.


NO,DEAL.




i adored betsy in the x-men 90's animated series. i personally thought it was quite cool how powerful she seemed with her two psionic knives eve harming physical objects.

[metalgorgomon]

Oh man...

I've seen this picture many times before, but for some reason, this was the first time I actually thought about the fact that Betsy is walking through RAW SEWAGE wearing that costume. Her bare skin is touching SEWAGE. Above the knees.

And your post that actually making me see from that perspective :D Well, at least that won't be a problem anymore since she wears pants now.
It's good to see you posting here, Jordan. Regarding Betsy's new costume, was it Grummet's design or someone else, J? Love his art so far..

[Don Quixote]

You forget to mention cyclops and gambit and any other male x-man who psylocke has flirted with. it's only a matter of time before its revealed in th pages of x-men that she even screwed charles himself!


Flirting hardly makes someone a whore, does it? Besides, she rarely flirted with Gambit anyway. He flirted with her, and usually got stony silence in response.

That stuff with Cyclops was a bit weird, but in hindsight, it seemed to be a set up for the Revanche introduction, and the resulting doubt in Betsy's identity. But she never slept with Cyclops, either.

She was in a long term relationship with Warren for most of the 1990s, and then there was that nonsense with Thunderbird III. Then she died. She's not had any action since then, has she?

They're in the Danger Room in that panel, aren't they? From X-Men #1. So it's only a simulation of sewage. Unless Xavier anticipated the need for a sewer filled with human effluence when he built the place.

[metalgorgomon]

They're in the Danger Room in that panel, aren't they? From X-Men #1. So it's only a simulation of sewage. Unless Xavier anticipated the need for a sewer filled with human effluence when he built the place.

OMG, you're right :o Here's the explanation picture from X-Men #1. This time with Rogue, Gambit, Colossus, Iceman, Archangel and our own Miss Betsy. I absolutely love the 'blue' Archangel with the metal wings in this image.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/X-Men01p16a.jpg

[Anon_me]

But didn't she traverse the sewers a couple of issues later with Sabertooth, while under the control of Matuseo, looking for Wolverine? =p

[Tazirai]

You've got to admit, she'd have looked pretty daft wearing knickers underneath that costume, though.

To be honest, with the tightness of pretty much all superhero costumes, I doubt there's much in the way of underwear under any of them.

Yeah they hinted on this in the Empowered comic. Was pretty damn funny to.
Talking about "no respectable female heroine wears underwear; under a costume that clingy." "AN NO THONGS EITHER!"

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1BetsyInferno5.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1BetsyInferno6.jpg

This is the Psylocke I loved right there. In a one on one, she had no chance against arclight. Physically anyway. but her use of Her mind and "supposed" weakness, allowed her to TAKE OUT 2 Marauders. Two of the more lethal ones at that. The best part is, they don't even appear in the follow up book.

The other Marauders took blows, but came back. Psylocke took her foes. OUT of the fight. That's something she doesnt do anymore.

[Tazirai]

I've been looking for a new Psylocke avatar, but nothing good and I'm really bad at making them myself.

Can someone direct me to some Betsy avatars or possibly make me one? ;)

If so.. maybe add a touch of photoshop to enhance the color or background? Just no text on it.

Thanks! :)

Heres a couple I made from some of the pics on my other thread.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/Katelockewebava-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/webava1-1.jpg

[Tazirai]

couple more.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/psysmashed.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/newava1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/psy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/psyA.jpg

[Tazirai]

Thought this was a cool find.
Someone created a Classic Psylocke doll.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/psylockebjhhjh-1.jpg

[Domo Goddess]

Very nice images. I especially love the Psylocke doll.

I'll see if I can find a few more Psylocke pictures.

[Phil Hunn]

and what? betsy should have had sense to call them instead of causing a complete psionic disturbance.

Time was of the essence, as I recall. If she'd waited for Chuck or Jean to show up, the Shadow King could have done even more permanent damage than the temporary hiccup she caused.

you forget to mention cyclops and gambit and any other male x-man who psylocke has flirted with. it's only a matter of time before its revealed in th pages of x-men that she even screwed charles himself!

This statement is made of fail.

Flirting with somebody doesn't automatically mean that Betsy had sex with them. People flirt with each other all the time, with no intention of taking it any further. Flirting is a fun distraction from the norm.

Hell, I've flirted with married women, who flirted right back at me - and guess what? We never slept together. Ever.

But didn't she traverse the sewers a couple of issues later with Sabertooth, while under the control of Matuseo, looking for Wolverine? =p

Yeah, but that's mind-control for you. It makes you do crazy things :)

[Domo Goddess]

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/18Elisabeth.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/32Elisabeth.jpg

[CmX]

Fabian wrote Asian Betsy with personality, I think Lobdell was the one who really made her lose all character.

[LittleMissVixen]

Fabian wrote Asian Betsy with personality, I think Lobdell was the one who really made her lose all character.


As he did with Storm and Jean too, IMO.

[Tazirai]

Fabian wrote Asian Betsy with personality, I think Lobdell was the one who really made her lose all character.

I agree 10000%

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Fabian wrote Asian Betsy with personality, I think Lobdell was the one who really made her lose all character.

As he has with 90% of all the X-Related characters he's manhandled, sadly... :(

[DDM]

Fabian wrote Asian Betsy with personality, I think Lobdell was the one who really made her lose all character.

Fabien, unfortunately, is responsible for the Kwannon/Revanche abomination; therefore, he gets a negative for literally making Psylocke's origin a mess. Scott Lobdell did not help matters when he created the whole Crimson Dawn mess...

Both men are equally responsible for deconstructing Psylocke's character into the awful disaster her character became throughout the mid-to-late 1990's...

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[metalgorgomon]

Fabien, unfortunately, is responsible for the Kwannon/Revanche abomination; therefore, he gets a negative for literally making Psylocke's origin a mess. Scott Lobdell did not help matters when he created the whole Crimson Dawn mess...

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Fabian wrote Asian Betsy with personality, I think Lobdell was the one who really made her lose all character.

While i agree that Fabian was partly responsible messing up Psylocke's origin with the unnecessary retcon, I think his characterization of her was very good. It's just too bad he wrote Betsy on a wrong ground. Nevertheless Betsy showed some strong personality on his particular run of the X-Men.

@CMX, congrats on the new Psylocke avatar. I really like it!

[Tazirai]

Couple more Armored Avatars.

[metalgorgomon]

Couple more Armored Avatars.

As much as I love Ninja Psylocke, I also missed Armored Psylocke :)

Nice Armored Psylocke avatars, Taz. It would also be nice if you also make the ones with the butterfly aura :) (Hope I didn't sound too demanding :D)

[Jordan D. White]

Regarding Betsy's new costume, was it Grummet's design or someone else, J? Love his art so far..

That was all Mr. Tom Grummett's design.

[Jordan D. White]

Thought this was a cool find.
Someone created a Classic Psylocke doll.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/psylockebjhhjh-1.jpg

That's awesome! That's actually my favourite Psylocke look. I think I am probably in the minority.

[booga]

definitely has fake boobs

[LittleMissVixen]

Ohhh Betsy....How I pray for you to be release from Claremont, and into the hands of Mike Carey...

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/shatterstar07/psylocke.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

That was all Mr. Tom Grummett's design.

Thanks for the answer, Jordan. I certainly love Mr Grummets design for Psylocke. But it'd better if she'd lose the gloves or have a simple ones :)

That's awesome! That's actually my favourite Psylocke look. I think I am probably in the minority.

Are we gonna see that version of her in the third arc of New Exiles?? :D


http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/shatterstar07/psylocke.jpg

That is an awesome picture! I think I've seen it somewhere before but this picture has better coloring. Love it.

[CmX]

That was all Mr. Tom Grummett's design.

Give him kudos for me if ya can! He did a great job it's a refreshing fun look for Psylocke. :)

[CmX]

That's awesome! That's actually my favourite Psylocke look. I think I am probably in the minority.

Nah you're not, it was cute on her all in pink. Showed her femininity and vulnerability IMO.

I'm probably the one in the minority that liked her hair puff the one Davis drew on her since the Cap Britain series. Not saying I'd ever want it to return!
But it was cute back in those days.

[Anon_me]

I wonder if her hair was naturally puffy or if she had to blow-dry it.

[Tazirai]

As much as I love Ninja Psylocke, I also missed Armored Psylocke :)

Nice Armored Psylocke avatars, Taz. It would also be nice if you also make the ones with the butterfly aura :) (Hope I didn't sound too demanding :D)

Not a Problem. Theres a few I can piece together in short order.

[CmX]

I wonder if her hair was naturally puffy or if she had to blow-dry it.

I'm sure she used to buy a lot of hairspray for that look! It was the 80s afterall. ;)

[_Jayme_]

I wonder if her hair was naturally puffy or if she had to blow-dry it.

Don't be silly! Blow drying your hair takes the color out of it and I know that bitch dyes her hair!

[metalgorgomon]

I'm sure she used to buy a lot of hairspray for that look! It was the 80s afterall. ;)

LOL.. lots of haispray and foams..;)

[Anon_me]

Ah...must have been very strong spray and foam to maintain its integrity in the midst of a superhuman battle. Speaking of her hair; isn't it admirable how The Hand took the time to ensure that while they were transforming Psylocke's caucasian body into an asian one, they took the time to dye her hair the proper shade of purple to help her better integrate into her new life?

[CmX]

Don't be silly! Blow drying your hair takes the color out of it and I know that bitch dyes her hair!

lmao this is true, yeah it's all product.

[Tazirai]

a few more requested avatars.

[Tazirai]

More Requested.

[Tazirai]

The Last one.

[CmX]

More Requested.

Ooo these are neat!

[metalgorgomon]

Thanks for the lovely avatars, Taz! Gonna save them as my Psylocke avatar collection, if you don't mind..

I'll probably gonna make some of ninja Psylocke with butterfly aura, later on.

In the meanwhile:

THE BLUE TEAM BABES: ROGUE AND PSYLOCKE


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/IGNPsylockeandRogue.jpg

I previously posted the Rogue part in Rogue thread. This is the complete picture. Didn't include Jubilee since she was still a kid :D

[Domo Goddess]

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/460Betsy.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/460Betsy2.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/460Betsy3.jpg

[Xplicit Content]

^ Heh, great page I love Asian Psylocke, and I thought the Jim Lee era was Psylocke's golden age. I really hate to see what's become of her; I don't like pretty much anything they've done with her since after the Revanche situation (I didn't mind that arc)...Crimson Dawn era Psylocke was when things took a nosedive for me; it was too much "stuff" lumped on to her. I really hated that they ditched her psiblade, and then her telepathy all together. Now Claremont has her exiled...wow, poor Betsy went from A-list X-Man to Z-list. I'd really like to see her get reinvented; a good start might be ditching all the baggage (even though I love Asian Betsy) and putting her back in the Caucasian body.

[Callisto]

turning betsy into an asian woman was the best thing that ever happened to her....everything else after that wasn't so much. i did however like the crimson dawn abilities, i jus wish she didn't have that hideous scar.

[metalgorgomon]

@ Domo
What a coincidence.. I was just about to post the Betsy and Emma image from UXM #460. I like Emma. But that scene was just priceless.

This one was also taken from UXM #460, and i think it was a heartfelt reunion between Betsy and Hank. I would love to see them in a same team again. They're such good friends...

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeandBeast1.jpg

[Domo Goddess]

Cute little Psylockes!

http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/X-Men/2nd%20team/psylocke/Psylocke.htm

[metalgorgomon]

Cute little Psylockes!

http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/X-Men/2nd%20team/psylocke/Psylocke.htm

^ Those little Psylockes are the cutest things ever! LOL..

Personal favorites:

[Callisto]

@ Domo
What a coincidence.. I was just about to post the Betsy and Emma image from UXM #460. I like Emma. But that scene was just priceless.

This one was also taken from UXM #460, and i think it was a heartfelt reunion between Betsy and Hank. I would love to see them in a same team again. They're such good friends...

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeandBeast1.jpg


beast and rogue were the only ones who acctually seemed saddened by rogues death.

[Callisto]

Time was of the essence, as I recall. If she'd waited for Chuck or Jean to show up, the Shadow King could have done even more permanent damage than the temporary hiccup she caused.:)


i doubt it, a simple telepath message would have had them on the job immiediately.






Hell, I've flirted with married women, who flirted right back at me - and guess what? We never slept together. Ever..:)


lies

[Callisto]

Fabien, unfortunately, is responsible for the Kwannon/Revanche abomination; therefore, he gets a negative for literally making Psylocke's origin a mess. Scott Lobdell did not help matters when he created the whole Crimson Dawn mess...

Both men are equally responsible for deconstructing Psylocke's character into the awful disaster her character became throughout the mid-to-late 1990's...

:mad: :mad: :mad:



i love how you fail to mention your beloved claremont. he's responsible for mysteriously taking away betsy's crimson dawn powers giving betsy tha telekinesis with no explanation. aswell as the whole asian thing he didn't really explain that whole thing well either, it was very vague.

[DDM]

i love how you fail to mention your beloved claremont. he's responsible for mysteriously taking away betsy's crimson dawn powers giving betsy tha telekinesis with no explanation. aswell as the whole asian thing he didn't really explain that whole thing well either, it was very vague.

Giving Betsy telekinesis did not destroy Betsy's character when Fabien Nicieza introduced Kwannon/Revanche; likewise, the Scott Lobdell Crimson Dawn just added powers unnecessarily to Betsy's power set while she remained wallpaper for the most part. Betsy's power switch with Phoenix is logical given they encountered the Shadow King on the astral plane & had an unexpected result. I prefer Betsy with telepathy, but her telekinesis has not destroyed Betsy's characterization. In fact, Chris Claremont has done the most improvement with Betsy since she had been destroyed for the most part by other writers who had no understanding of Betsy's characterization.

You can't parallel Betsy's power switch with Jean & compare it to Kwannon/Revanche. There's no comparison.

[Divalykeprincess]

Don't forget Colossus! He was on the gold team.

Forge was also around but not an official member.



Yes! Colossus was on the gold team too. (See Phil, the failing memory thing happens to everyone :) )

[Callisto]

Giving Betsy telekinesis did not destroy Betsy's character when Fabien Nicieza introduced Kwannon/Revanche; likewise, the Scott Lobdell Crimson Dawn just added powers unnecessarily to Betsy's power set while she remained wallpaper for the most part. Betsy's power switch with Phoenix is logical given they encountered the Shadow King on the astral plane & had an unexpected result. I prefer Betsy with telepathy, but her telekinesis has not destroyed Betsy's characterization. In fact, Chris Claremont has done the most improvement with Betsy since she had been destroyed for the most part by other writers who had no understanding of Betsy's characterization.

You can't parallel Betsy's power switch with Jean & compare it to Kwannon/Revanche. There's no comparison.



spare me ddm, you simply pick and choose things that destroy psylockes character ignoring other things that didn't at alll help the devolpment of her character either because your precious claremont did them. the power switch between jean and betsy isn't at all logical in the slightest. infact it wasn't even EXPLAINED so how are you even going to try and say the power switch made sense.atleast the crimson dawn abilities were given an entire mini devoted to psylocke getting them and mastering them. where was the mini for betsys telekinesis? or the THOROUGH not VAGUE explanation of psylocke becoming asian that claremeont should have given?

[cgar]

who on the xmen teams have both tk and tp. jeans dead. emma only has tp plus that diamond bs, julian only has tk, cable lost his stuff or has minimal use. xavier doesnt matter he's never really on a team.

all they have to do to bring betsy telepathy is easy. just say kwannon dies and betsy got the tp back, the bs with her, jean, and SK happens and she gets stuck with tk but she still has tp, she's just a little messed up inside, her brother brings her back to life and fixes her up, so basically she's a renewed slate. because she hasnt used telepathy for a long time she has to get use to it and just find it. have Sage give her a freaken jump start or something. its a lame gift of her but its an easy way to get betsy tp back.

i dont get why a character can't have both. it doesnt make them deus ex. the writer just has to write them creatively.

i miss psylocke with the xmen. screw the exiles

they should just let mike carey write a little mini so we can see his characterization of her, theyd get my money

[CmX]

they should just let mike carey write a little mini so we can see his characterization of her, theyd get my money

I'd love for this to happen.. but the pitch would have to be to retcon a few things possibly Kwannon somehow and to revert her to a TP with limited precog.

And of course return her to 616.

[Flameworthy]

I'd love for this to happen.. but the pitch would have to be to retcon a few things possibly Kwannon somehow and to revert her to a TP with limited precog.


I don't think he'd retcon Revanche, since he likes her character. I'd love a mini written by him that brought both back and reverted to their original bodies.

[Flameworthy]

spare me ddm, you simply pick and choose things that destroy psylockes character ignoring other things that didn't at alll help the devolpment of her character either because your precious claremont did them. the power switch between jean and betsy isn't at all logical in the slightest. infact it wasn't even EXPLAINED so how are you even going to try and say the power switch made sense.atleast the crimson dawn abilities were given an entire mini devoted to psylocke getting them and mastering them. where was the mini for betsys telekinesis? or the THOROUGH not VAGUE explanation of psylocke becoming asian that claremeont should have given?

lol You are awesome!

[CmX]

I don't think he'd retcon Revanche, since he likes her character. I'd love a mini written by him that brought both back and reverted to their original bodies.

This is true! You're right that'd be an interesting read. Sadly it doesn't look like CC is ever going to allow Psylocke out of his grasp *shudders*

So it's Betsy and CC till he retires or all his books get canned. Which I hope both happen soon.

[Saturius]

I haven't read the X-books for a while but I liked Claremont's take on Betsy during his third run of Uncanny after she came back from the dead. I thought his characterization of her was spot on and really fun after the trainwreck that she was during the 90's (and yes, even during Claremonts return for Revolution). I haven't and don't plan on picking up the old or New Exiles that feature Psylocke, but has Claremont really been writing her crap like lately? It seems so strange because he wrote her so well in Uncanny.

[DDM]

spare me ddm, you simply pick and choose things that destroy psylockes character ignoring other things that didn't at alll help the devolpment of her character either because your precious claremont did them. the power switch between jean and betsy isn't at all logical in the slightest. infact it wasn't even EXPLAINED so how are you even going to try and say the power switch made sense.atleast the crimson dawn abilities were given an entire mini devoted to psylocke getting them and mastering them. where was the mini for betsys telekinesis? or the THOROUGH not VAGUE explanation of psylocke becoming asian that claremeont should have given?

Actually, the power switch was going to be published in Uncanny X-Men 2001 Annual, but was cancelled when Quesada became Editor-in-Chief.

Spiral also transformed Lady Deathstrike into a cyborg with adamantium claws in Uncanny X-Men #205; therefore, through Mojo's bionic camera eyes, Spiral & Mojo likewise transformed Betsy's Anglo-Saxon body into an Asian form to match her Lady Mandarin persona. There's no other explanation needed if your comprehended the story from Uncanny X-Men #256. Spiral & Mojo can literally do anything possible & impossible given their magicks & Spiral's Body Shoppe--without a deus ex machina like Kwannon to ruin everything.

Kwannon is one big monkey wrench in Psylocke's story; furthermore, she's not a real character. Kwannon is only Psylocke with a different name.

[CmX]

I haven't read the X-books for a while but I liked Claremonts take on Betsy during his third run of Uncanny after she came back from the dead. I thought his characterization of her was spot on and really fun after the trainwreck that she was during the 90's (and yes, even during Claremonts ruturn for Revolution). I haven't and don't plan on picking up the old or New Exiles that feature Psylocke, but has Claremont really been writing her crap like lately? It seems so strange because he wrote her so well in Uncanny.

Yeah I agree he wrote Psylocke pretty decent during his third run on Uncanny, and I have no idea since Exiles she's just been annoying, too powerful and he's just trying to force a little too much characterization on her (she's a chef, she loves to fly, she loves the ocean, she kicks ass at chess, she can turn invisible, Slaymaster is hunting her down because she's that much of a threat?, two men on the same team have the hots for her, the Gods adore her etc.,) it's a little too much.

And this is a complaint coming from someone who's favorite character ever is Psylocke.

This stint on Exiles is "cute", but I don't want it to last longer than it has to much like Havok was exiles in the Mutant X title I hope she'll return someday soon to 616 much like he did.

[Domo Goddess]

The only baby Psylocke picture I like from MOJO MAYHEM.

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1BabyBetsy.jpg

[Callisto]

lol You are awesome!

why thankyou mortal:)



Actually, the power switch was going to be published in Uncanny X-Men 2001 Annual, but was cancelled when Quesada became Editor-in-Chief. .



or so claremont claims, i've heard claremont use the whole "its the editors fault" compalint tme and time again, its funny how other writers still manage to write phenomenal stories and make sense of things occuring despite them having editors.


Spiral also transformed Lady Deathstrike into a cyborg with adamantium claws in Uncanny X-Men #205; therefore, through Mojo's bionic camera eyes, Spiral & Mojo likewise transformed Betsy's Anglo-Saxon body into an Asian form to match her Lady Mandarin persona. There's no other explanation needed if your comprehended the story from Uncanny X-Men #256. Spiral & Mojo can literally do anything possible & impossible given their magicks & Spiral's Body Shoppe--without a deus ex machina like Kwannon to ruin everything..


of course an explanation is needed. the whole issue where betsy becomes an asian woman is written like she's high off morphine. its hard to determine wheter psyloke is hallucinating or if the events were acctuallly occuring and some of them in reality were NOT. as for kwannon i personally didn't think that whole fiasco was that confusing at first it is, but towards the end its all pretty much explained. i remember reading those issues in excitement wondering who the real betsy was...of course i knew it would be the asian one. oh, an i really did not need you giving me another UNWANTED rundown of x-men issues and history, i swear your some kind of geeky x-men database android.

[Callisto]

Yeah I agree he wrote Psylocke pretty decent during his third run on Uncanny, and I have no idea since Exiles she's just been annoying, too powerful and he's just trying to force a little too much characterization on her (she's a chef, she loves to fly, she loves the ocean, she kicks ass at chess, she can turn invisible, Slaymaster is hunting her down because she's that much of a threat?, two men on the same team have the hots for her, the Gods adore her etc.,) it's a little too much.

And this is a complaint coming from someone who's favorite character ever is Psylocke.

This stint on Exiles is "cute", but I don't want it to last longer than it has to much like Havok was exiles in the Mutant X title I hope she'll return someday soon to 616 much like he did.


agreed, i also feel the storylines are so pathetic and mediocre in the exiles book that they degrade psylockes quality to be apart of them.

[CmX]

agreed, i also feel the storylines are so pathetic and mediocre in the exiles book that they degrade psylockes quality to be apart of them.

I totally agree! I hate how CC is all like.. "Psylocke is now part of a team that doesn't just protect 616 but all of the entire creation!!"

Like nobody cares cause these plots don't affect any other title and nobody is ever going to reference this material.

The only thing I like about her in Exiles is her new outfit. :P

But the TK has gotta go, the flying has gotta go, Sabretooth has gotta go.

[Callisto]

i must say i'm really not a fan of her flying.

[CmX]

i must say i'm really not a fan of her flying.

Me either it's so idiotic and defeats the purpose of her being a martial artists.

Why have her a fighter if she can just use her TK or fly ?

I thought that's why weaker physical fighters like Jean or Hellion had TK. But Psylocke?

I dunno CC needs to retire like five years ago.

[Callisto]

I do think he handled her telekinesis well in the earlier uncanny run during her resurrection but now hes turned her into this ninja version of rogue, i bet its only a matter of time before she starts lifting buildings and *sigh* crushing mountains.

[Phil Hunn]

That's awesome! That's actually my favourite Psylocke look. I think I am probably in the minority.

I like it too :)

Ah...must have been very strong spray and foam to maintain its integrity in the midst of a superhuman battle. Speaking of her hair; isn't it admirable how The Hand took the time to ensure that while they were transforming Psylocke's caucasian body into an asian one, they took the time to dye her hair the proper shade of purple to help her better integrate into her new life?

I think the carpet matches the drapes now, so to speak, thanks to the Hand's and Spiral's genetic tinkering (in other words, her hair is naturally purple).


lies

... the words, they fail me. Why would I lie? It's not like I have any reason to...

You can't parallel Betsy's power switch with Jean & compare it to Kwannon/Revanche. There's no comparison.

Well, no, there isn't, because the Kwannon/Revanche stuff actually took place on-panel :p

I don't think he'd retcon Revanche, since he likes her character. I'd love a mini written by him that brought both back and reverted to their original bodies.

Yeah, that would be awesome :)

[Callisto]

I think the carpet matches the drapes now:)


:eek: you filthy pervert!

[Domo Goddess]

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1BabyBetsy2.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1BabyBetsyD.jpg

[Phil Hunn]

:eek: you filthy pervert!

What? We've never seen Asian Psylocke with a bottle of hair-dye, and Kwannon, in the flashbacks, also seemed to have (apparently naturally) purple hair.

Therefore, it follows that Psylocke's head-hair is now all-purple, all the time. Which it wasn't when she was English.

[metalgorgomon]

I don't think he'd retcon Revanche, since he likes her character. I'd love a mini written by him that brought both back and reverted to their original bodies.

This is true! You're right that'd be an interesting read. Sadly it doesn't look like CC is ever going to allow Psylocke out of his grasp *shudders*

So it's Betsy and CC till he retires or all his books get canned. Which I hope both happen soon.

A mini, written by Carey..reverting both back to their original bodies.. That would be awesome!! But as CMX said, that it will most likely not gonna happen.
But I would love to see Carey write her Solo Series or a Psylocke first class.
There are so much that can be told about Betsy:

- Younger years with Brian and Jamie in Braddock Manor;
- Going to school with Brian but love seeing Jamie in car races (and eventually learning how to drive them);
- Getting University Degree;
- Fashion Model years;
- Getting Pilot license;
- Joining STIKE, doing undercover duties while took modelling jobs;
- First Love :)

Please let it happen :)

[Anon_me]

What? We've never seen Asian Psylocke with a bottle of hair-dye, and Kwannon, in the flashbacks, also seemed to have (apparently naturally) purple hair.

Therefore, it follows that Psylocke's head-hair is now all-purple, all the time. Which it wasn't when she was English.

It's her secondary mutation.

[Mwahaha]

Ahahah Psylocke is flying now? Is that true? And since when?

I dropped the Exiles book a whileeeeeeee back.
I don't think I want to get back on it again.

[Anon_me]

She started flying when she got her telekinesis, as most telekinetics are wont to do.

[metalgorgomon]

Yeah I agree he wrote Psylocke pretty decent during his third run on Uncanny, and I have no idea since Exiles she's just been annoying, too powerful and he's just trying to force a little too much characterization on her (she's a chef, she loves to fly, she loves the ocean, she kicks ass at chess, she can turn invisible, Slaymaster is hunting her down because she's that much of a threat?, two men on the same team have the hots for her, the Gods adore her etc.,) it's a little too much.

And this is a complaint coming from someone who's favorite character ever is Psylocke.

This stint on Exiles is "cute", but I don't want it to last longer than it has to much like Havok was exiles in the Mutant X title I hope she'll return someday soon to 616 much like he did.

I also agree that CC wrote her great during his third run on Uncanny. Especially the reunion with Beast, interacting with X-23, bonding with Rachel and coping with Emma being the co-headmaster.

I don't think his writing her in Exiles were that bad. They are mostly averange. And I do have some critics though.

The first arc (issue #90-#94) featured Psylocke for the first time. I love her reaction seeing Sabertooth for the first time and immediately stabbed her katana to him :D
Regarding the invisibility skill. I think it suits her. She's a ninja for crying out loud. But I don't like it when CC made it seems like out of the blue. It's too sudden. He should've shown us that Betsy is improving little by little with her telekenesis. Hell.. i would love to see Betsy doing some meditation and practising her TK.

Now Slaymaster.. I think It's good that CC pointed out that Betsy still has fears and trauma. And that was the time that she was blinded by Slaymaster. My complaint about the story is that it was introduced too soon for the book. Psylocke was just joined the team. It would be wise to have a story centered around her at least 2-3 arcs after she joined the team.
As to why Slaymaster keep hunting Psylocke across the alternate realities. I don't think it was mentioned on panel that he thought Betsy that much of a threat. I think We might know the answer on the third arc of New Exiles (issue #7-#10).

In a way.. I kinda agree with CMX that it was a bit too much of her in the first arc of her Exiles days. But for me.. I don't think that i'll never have enough of Betsy :D

Me either it's so idiotic and defeats the purpose of her being a martial artists.

Why have her a fighter if she can just use her TK or fly ?

I thought that's why weaker physical fighters like Jean or Hellion had TK. But Psylocke?

I dunno CC needs to retire like five years ago.

Now moving to New Exiles.
I don't think i read that she cook or being a chef. She actually enjoyed Mytique's cooking.
As far as I know. Betsy loves adventures. So I don't find it odd that she likes the ocean. To me, Betsy is an outgoing gal that likes to try stuff, including surfing, driving fast cars, etc. She's also an experienced pilot. So she loves to fly. Personally, I'm not to kken on her using her TK to fly. It's just too generic. She should've use it to enhance her speed and agility to complement her ninja martial arts. But in her defence (not CC, mind you) I understand that she must've love it flying in the air. Probably she even dreamt that one day she could fly (not just by using plane.. but really fly).


I do think he handled her telekinesis well in the earlier uncanny run during her resurrection but now hes turned her into this ninja version of rogue, i bet its only a matter of time before she starts lifting buildings and *sigh* crushing mountains.


Hmm.. i kinda in the middle in this matter. Now she has this 'super' TK. I personally would love to see her actually crush mountains :D. Maybe once or twice (by using a superbig Katana :eek: ) But naah.. I'd prefer to see her developing her ninja skills by using her TK.

Having said all things above, I think the best solution for her is to be reverted back to her original body and power. Not that i'm not enjoying the possibility of her using TK but IMO the telepathy suits her character best. But i just don't know whether that will ever be possible.

My wish is CC to send her back to 616 to be replaced by a blonde-british and telepathic Betsy. Two Betsy in different universes!

[Callisto]

agreed, her using her telekinesis to enhace herself physically would be much more desireable.

[Tazirai]

Me either it's so idiotic and defeats the purpose of her being a martial artists.

Why have her a fighter if she can just use her TK or fly ?

I thought that's why weaker physical fighters like Jean or Hellion had TK. But Psylocke?

I dunno CC needs to retire like five years ago.

BEST.REPLY. EVER.
http://constitutionclub.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/champagne-4.jpg

[Tazirai]

Now moving to New Exiles.
I don't think i read that she cook or being a chef. She actually enjoyed Mytique's cooking.
As far as I know. Betsy loves adventures. So I don't find it odd that she likes the ocean. To me, Betsy is an outgoing gal that likes to try stuff, including surfing, driving fast cars, etc. She's also an experienced pilot. So she loves to fly. Personally, I'm not to kken on her using her TK to fly. It's just too generic. She should've use it to enhance her speed and agility to complement her ninja martial arts. But in her defence (not CC, mind you) I understand that she must've love it flying in the air. Probably she even dreamt that one day she could fly (not just by using plane.. but really fly).



She likes to cook.. Seems as most X-men did back in the day.
The X-men aren't as fun as they used.

[Flameworthy]

This is true! You're right that'd be an interesting read. Sadly it doesn't look like CC is ever going to allow Psylocke out of his grasp *shudders*

So it's Betsy and CC till he retires or all his books get canned. Which I hope both happen soon.

Sadly yes. Carey has even commented on wanting to clean up the whole body swap story.:(

What? We've never seen Asian Psylocke with a bottle of hair-dye, and Kwannon, in the flashbacks, also seemed to have (apparently naturally) purple hair.

Therefore, it follows that Psylocke's head-hair is now all-purple, all the time. Which it wasn't when she was English.

Actually Revanche was shown with natural black hair in flashbacks. Her hair was only purple when she was in Betsy's original body.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/Dragonwing21/X-Men/Revanche.png

[Callisto]

Sadly yes. Carey has even commented on wanting to clean up the whole body swap story.:(



Actually Revanche was shown with natural black hair in flashbacks. Her hair was only purple when she was in Betsy's original body.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/Dragonwing21/X-Men/Revanche.png



maybe kwannon died it black to avoid persecution as a mutant?

[metalgorgomon]

agreed, her using her telekinesis to enhace herself physically would be much more desireable.

Here are the things I wish Psylocke could do in her current powerset:

- Ditch the TK Katana, find a real sword instead. She even could claim the Excalibur for her (before Wismdom claim it :D) and Brian, as always, keeps the Amulet. The Braddocks are suppose to be the defender of crosstime, right..

Now, she could use the telekinesis for:

- Less Flying. Yes, she love to fly but she needs to exercise her physical aspects. Should use her TK to enhance her ability to run fast (but not as fast as quicksilver). More like a car-fast. And Use Tk to help her leap/bounce around.

- Practising the invisibility skill. This one she can keep. But would love to see her practising it though, cause for her this is a new trick. She should only be able to pull this trick for a maximum 5 minutes or so..

- Using TK to enhance her strength. But don't make her like the old "miss marvel" Rogue. Use less puches but more slashes and open palm pushes. Just enough for her to slash through some metal and other materials.

- I'm not sure bout this but I would love her to display the butterfly aura around her face when using TK. The Butterfly Aura is her power signature and IMO it should stays with her. This time, the butterfly should be drawn without the 'eye'. Something a bit vague but still shaped like a butterfly.
The butterfly aura should appear when she's about to start boosting her strength and replaced by a slightly glowing aura around her hands when she's fighting.

[Kage Kisaragi]

If Psylocke were a fruit, what fruit would she be?

If Psylocke's body were a meal at MacDonald's would you Super Size it?

If Psylocke had to bust a Move what dance would she do?

[jarrod]

I haven't read the X-books for a while but I liked Claremont's take on Betsy during his third run of Uncanny after she came back from the dead. I thought his characterization of her was spot on and really fun after the trainwreck that she was during the 90's (and yes, even during Claremonts return for Revolution). I haven't and don't plan on picking up the old or New Exiles that feature Psylocke, but has Claremont really been writing her crap like lately? It seems so strange because he wrote her so well in Uncanny.
Totally agreed... people like to bag on Claremont's recent Uncanny run, but his handling of Betsy there was one of the few things he really got right, and the first time Betsy really felt like Betsy again since the Hand transformation imo. Yeah, I'd have liked her english and telepathic, but what we got was still great (probably in large part to Davis and Bachalo too).

I've been out of sight/out of mind with Nexiles tho. Betts and Tess are just boozing it up/date raping high schoolers on some tropical Vay-Cay as far as I'm concerned...

[metalgorgomon]

More scans from CC third UXM after Betsy ressurection:

Totally love this one:


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/uxm-456-20a.jpg

I also like Psylocke and X-23 interactions (not too fond of Laura's costume though). I'd love to see them in a team together. Both are (kind of) action junkie. One love to kill and the other one probably think killing as the last resort. Betsy would make a good mentor for Laura

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/uxm-456-20b.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeX23-2.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeX23-1.jpg

Domo posted a part of the last picture. But I love seeing both Betsy and Laura in the same panel

[Phil Hunn]

I also agree that CC wrote her great during his third run on Uncanny. Especially the reunion with Beast, interacting with X-23, bonding with Rachel and coping with Emma being the co-headmaster.

Betsy's interaction with X-23 was cute. I liked it a lot :)

She likes to cook.. Seems as most X-men did back in the day.

Bishop was shown cooking, too, during X-Treme X-Men.

[Bingo!]

I totally agree! I hate how CC is all like.. "Psylocke is now part of a team that doesn't just protect 616 but all of the entire creation!!"

Like nobody cares cause these plots don't affect any other title and nobody is ever going to reference this material.

The only thing I like about her in Exiles is her new outfit. :P

But the TK has gotta go, the flying has gotta go, Sabretooth has gotta go.

You've just become my favorite poster!

If Betsy wasn't in CC's clutches, which of the X-books would you want her on? I'd vote X-Force. Her dynamic in the group would be interesting. Would she kill or merely be there for the assist?

[Callisto]

i could really see betsy in x-force, and i do think i could see her killing. just not as casually, since her power don't neccessarily require her to kill like say wolverine and x-23's claws.

[Bingo!]

i could really see betsy in x-force, and i do think i could see her killing. just not as casually, since her power don't neccessarily require her to kill like say wolverine and x-23's claws.

Would you prefer TK Betsy or telepath Betsy? Her fighting style felt grittier like Wolverine's when she didn't have TK. Betsy's telepathy required her to physically confront her enemies in battle. That would work perfect in X-Force.

As for killing, Betsy's psi-blade always did a pretty good job for frying her victims brains. Maybe she could increase the intensity and melt their faces.

[DDM]

As for killing, Betsy's psi-blade always did a pretty good job for frying her victims brains. Maybe she could increase the intensity and melt their faces.

Betsy's psychic knife could kill her foes had she wanted to, but, most of the time, she used it to stun them to take them out temporarily. The first time she used to kill Cameron Hodge in Uncanny X-Men #271 it did not work since he is immortal thanks to N'Astrigh. Psylocke's psychic knife could cause the brain to have multiple strokes if she wanted to kill her foe or fry their brain. Basically, Betsy's psychic knife disrupted the cerebral neurons to keep the brain from "communicating" with the body. For instance, when the Warskrull Psylocke struck Forge with her psychic knife, Forge could not fire his weapon, although he was conscious. Psylocke's psychic knife kept Forge from firing the gun; he is also a little dazed afterwards. A normal person would have been knocked unconscious from Psylocke's blow.

[Flameworthy]

maybe kwannon died it black to avoid persecution as a mutant?

Maybe, but I would hope not. I prefer her with black hair because it sets her apart from Psylocke.

[jarrod]

If Betsy wasn't in CC's clutches, which of the X-books would you want her on?
Legacy or MI-13.

[Callisto]

Would you prefer TK Betsy or telepath Betsy? Her fighting style felt grittier like Wolverine's when she didn't have TK. Betsy's telepathy required her to physically confront her enemies in battle. That would work perfect in X-Force..

i prefer betsy wth telekinesis. there are far to many telepaths out there,atleast telekinesis isn't as greatly played out as telepathy. i personally think her as a telekinetic works alot better then her as a telepath. i always thought it was so ridiculous when psylocke physically assaulted her enemies when she easily could have sent them a psi bolt. atleast with her telekinesis her physically getting into a brawl with someone isn't so dangerous because her telekinesis increases her strength/invulernerability.

As for killing, Betsy's psi-blade always did a pretty good job for frying her victims brains. Maybe she could increase the intensity and melt their faces.

betsy could easily be one of the members WITH a remaining conscious, she could be the teammember that kills only when truly neccessary.

[Callisto]

Maybe, but I would hope not. I prefer her with black hair because it sets her apart from Psylocke.


you realise her entire creation was due to the fact that she would be connectd to psylocke,right?

[Flameworthy]

you realise her entire creation was due to the fact that she would be connectd to psylocke,right?

Oh, I know that, but I still think she was her own character in the end of it all, even if it was only for a few issues.

[metalgorgomon]

betsy could easily be one of the members WITH a remaining conscious, she could be the teammember that kills only when truly neccessary.

Agreed! I also think Betsy would be a nice addition to the X-Force. A ninja with conscious, that's who Betsy is. I think tk blade/sword should cut thru human body. Just like Sylar did in Heroes. Threfore she'd use her tk mainly to enhance her strength and agility and conjure the blade/sword only when necessary.

Personally I also would love Betsy to be in a book that's written by Carey (Legacy or Adjectiveless). He loves Betsy (and Revanche) and I think he could do wonders with her.
Given the premise of the book, she would also suit in the Cap Brit &MI:13 series. But I'm not sure yet how Cornell will handle the book.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Maybe, but I would hope not. I prefer her with black hair because it sets her apart from Psylocke.

It'd be even better if she washed the dye out, and went back to her natural hair colour, though.

Legacy or MI-13.

With Cornell returning to the very elements that spawned Betsy as a character, in Captain Britain & MI-13, it would make far more sense for her to be back home in Britain, right now. Having her on eXiles is just like Marvel basically saying the character doesn't matter to them, right now.

[CmX]

You've just become my favorite poster!

If Betsy wasn't in CC's clutches, which of the X-books would you want her on? I'd vote X-Force. Her dynamic in the group would be interesting. Would she kill or merely be there for the assist?

Uncanny where she was originally supposed to appear in if not then Legacy written by Mike Carey, PLEASE GOD PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN JESUS

[Bingo!]

Uncanny where she was originally supposed to appear in if not then Legacy written by Mike Carey, PLEASE GOD PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN JESUS

I'd enjoy seeing her in either Uncanny or Legacy. Really, I'd enjoy seeing her anywhere besides Exiles. I want her presence to matter. Shame that she had zero role in Messiah Complex.

[Bingo!]

Uncanny where she was originally supposed to appear in if not then Legacy written by Mike Carey, PLEASE GOD PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN JESUS

I'd enjoy seeing her in either Uncanny or Legacy. Really, I'd enjoy seeing her anywhere besides Exiles. I want her presence to matter. Shame that she had zero role in Messiah Complex.

[Anon_me]

TK or TP...I'd like it if she were more creative with her powers beyond the usual "Psylocke Smash".

[Phil Hunn]

With Cornell returning to the very elements that spawned Betsy as a character, in Captain Britain & MI-13, it would make far more sense for her to be back home in Britain, right now. Having her on eXiles is just like Marvel basically saying the character doesn't matter to them, right now.

She matters enough to them to give her to CC as his consolation prize for being booted from one third-tier title to another, I think.

TK or TP...I'd like it if she were more creative with her powers beyond the usual "Psylocke Smash".

Agreed. As dumb as the invisibility was, at least it was something different to smashing stuff up...

[Anon_me]

One thing I have always wondered with the Revanche/Kwannon thing...how powerful a telepath was Psylocke in the asian body before Betsy in the british body transferred that body's telepathy into asian Betsy.

[Saturius]

One thing I have always wondered with the Revanche/Kwannon thing...how powerful a telepath was Psylocke in the asian body before Betsy in the british body transferred that body's telepathy into asian Betsy.

I'd imagine her telepathy was low/mid level unitl Kwannon returned the rest of her psionic potnential to Betsy before she died, thus making her a somewhat high level psi. It's very hard to gauge Psylockes telepathic strength. In CB she was kinda powerful but it was sorta "psuedo telepathy" in it's own way. Then when CC brought her over into X-Men she started displaying standard telepathic stunts and seemed fairly powerful. But then she became Asian and all we saw her do primarily was her psi-knife, and half the time it didin't even work, thus making her look a bit weak when the focused totality of your telepathic powers isn't enough to knock out d-list villains.

[DDM]

One thing I have always wondered with the Revanche/Kwannon thing...how powerful a telepath was Psylocke in the asian body before Betsy in the british body transferred that body's telepathy into asian Betsy.

Betsy Braddock's telepathy was the same as it was in her Anglo-Saxon body; however, she manifested her psycho-blaster powers--which could dent steel--as her psychic knife, "the focused totality" of Psylocke's telepathic powers. Another example of Betsy's telepathy is in Uncanny X-Men #258 when the Hand is brainwashing Wolverine. The Hand's telepathic dampers could not hold back Betsy's formidable psi-powers; as a result, the weaker-willed Hand subjects came under Betsy's influence. Psylocke still was trying her best to brainwash Wolverine for the Hand until her psychic knife "locked" into Wolverine's madness. Once Psylocke made a rapport with Wolverine on the astral plane via her psychic knife, she broke free of the Hand's conditioning.

In the 1985 Captain Britain series, an evil Captain Britain--from Sat-Yr-9's world--called Kaptain Briton attempted to rape the Earth-616 Betsy, but Betsy's telepathic powers literally fried his brains. Kaptain Briton's corpse was unrecognizable from the neck up. This is a manifestation of Betsy's psycho-blaster powers. And the same she uses for her psychic knife.

[Flameworthy]

I'd imagine her telepathy was low/mid level unitl Kwannon returned the rest of her psionic potnential to Betsy before she died, thus making her a somewhat high level psi. It's very hard to gauge Psylockes telepathic strength. In CB she was kinda powerful but it was sorta "psuedo telepathy" in it's own way. Then when CC brought her over into X-Men she started displaying standard telepathic stunts and seemed fairly powerful. But then she became Asian and all we saw her do primarily was her psi-knife, and half the time it didin't even work, thus making her look a bit weak when the focused totality of your telepathic powers isn't enough to knock out d-list villains.

Yup, after her transformation she only had half the potential she had in her original body till Revanche's death. Revanche was only a low level empath until the body swap so in order to compensate I guess Spiral split Betsy's telepathy evenly into both bodies.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

She matters enough to them to give her to CC as his consolation prize for being booted from one third-tier title to another, I think.

Yes, but if he mattered MORE then she would BE even contemplated for such a role. She had been the only one of Claremont's pet characters which he has been allowed to take to eXiles. Then he got the chance of Sage. Now I get the feeling she'll even get sidelined for Sage.

Alternatively, she could be back in the REAL MU, as part of a title celebrating the very part of the Marvel Universe she was part of launching. There is no way that being and eXile is not a shitty deal for the character...

[Anon_me]

Two more things that I've been pondering for awhile now. One, was Betsy suppose to be stronger than average? I ask just because she did hurl that hefty barbell at Sabertooth back during Mutant Massacre when she first fought him. Two, during X-cutioner's Song when they were on the moon, she said she telepathically got the door code from the access panel of the door where Stryfe walked out with Jean and Scott...how? (and the panel of her doing that I could never decipher).

[metalgorgomon]

With Cornell returning to the very elements that spawned Betsy as a character, in Captain Britain & MI-13, it would make far more sense for her to be back home in Britain, right now. Having her on eXiles is just like Marvel basically saying the character doesn't matter to them, right now.

Agreed. For once, Marvel could actually put Betsy and Brian in a same British-based group instead of having them together for a couple of issues or a mini.
I think it'll be interesting. Having an Asian body with English Root, writers should make a interesting story and characterization about it.

Uncanny where she was originally supposed to appear in if not then Legacy written by Mike Carey, PLEASE GOD PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN JESUS

Yes, but if he mattered MORE then she would BE even contemplated for such a role. She had been the only one of Claremont's pet characters which he has been allowed to take to eXiles. Then he got the chance of Sage. Now I get the feeling she'll even get sidelined for Sage.

Alternatively, she could be back in the REAL MU, as part of a title celebrating the very part of the Marvel Universe she was part of launching. There is no way that being and eXile is not a shitty deal for the character...

Sadly, she's literally being literally exiled in New Exiles and I also think that's not good for any character, especially for someone like Psylocke. She's pretty much wasted in New Exiles. I'm probably one of a few that don't mind much with Claremont writing her (except her being beaten so many times :p ). But I do agree that she needs to go back to 616, probably soon. I'd love her to be in a high profile X-Book again.

I wish Claremont could have an alternate Betsy to play with and join the New Exiles, thus sending the original back to the Real MU. <Fingers crossed>

[CmX]

Agreed. For once, Marvel could actually put Betsy and Brian in a same British-based group instead of having them together for a couple of issues or a mini.
I think it'll be interesting. Having an Asian body with English Root, writers should make a interesting story and characterization about it.





Sadly, she's literally being literally exiled in New Exiles and I also think that's not good for any character, especially for someone like Psylocke. She's pretty much wasted in New Exiles. I'm probably one of a few that don't mind much with Claremont writing her (except her being beaten so many times :p ). But I do agree that she needs to go back to 616, probably soon. I'd love her to be in a high profile X-Book again.

I wish Claremont could have an alternate Betsy to play with and join the New Exiles, thus sending the original back to the Real MU. <Fingers crossed>

This idea is great and everyone seems to think so with the exclusion of Claremont. I'd rather much see him conjure up a Psylocke in Exiles that was still British or even Captain Britain still that'd be neat and leave Psylocke to the main core X-titles.

Maybe it'll eventually happen, but I think I'm just optimistic. :(

[Tazirai]

Two more things that I've been pondering for awhile now. One, was Betsy suppose to be stronger than average? I ask just because she did hurl that hefty barbell at Sabertooth back during Mutant Massacre when she first fought him.

In her British Body she wasn't possessed in above normal strength. That Barbell could've been around 50lbs or so. The average woman can toss that pretty easily. She was also tall enough to give it a good momentum, and that carried it towards sabertooth. So she had normal strength, she could lift her body weight somewhat , which was around 140-150ish.

Two, during X-cutioner's Song when they were on the moon, she said she telepathically got the door code from the access panel of the door where Stryfe walked out with Jean and Scott...how? (and the panel of her doing that I could never decipher).

Her powers going against Stryfe was probably a storyline macguffin. She was a pretty powerful Psi. I'd say her telepathy surpassed Jeans or was at least equal. She could do things Jean seemed to Struggle with alot. Psylocke was also less inhibited about using her powers, or wearing clothes around the outback. But with that said, Sinister batted her aside, even though mentally he was no where near as strong as she.

She may have just been groggy, I mean even in armor a Mansion blew up around you. In her asian form, I think she did lose much of her finesse and mental power. She just didnt seem as strong in mindarts anymore. So that stryfe thing was pure.. story advancement.

[Slung]

Her powers going against Stryfe was probably a storyline macguffin. She was a pretty powerful Psi. I'd say her telepathy surpassed Jeans or was at least equal. She could do things Jean seemed to Struggle with alot. Psylocke was also less inhibited about using her powers, or wearing clothes around the outback. But with that said, Sinister batted her aside, even though mentally he was no where near as strong as she.
Now, I know I'm a bit biased, but whenever Jean has had telepathy, she's been said to be leagues above Psylocke in sheer power - hence the taunts from Shadow King in Psi Wars and Jean trying to help Betsy hone her telepathy. I agree though that Betsy certainly used her powers more creatively (actually, that probably had more to do with the fact that Claremont had been writing telepaths for quite some time up to that point and was doing more interesting things with them). I was always under the impression that Betsy was an average telepath with a lot of creativity.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Agreed. For once, Marvel could actually put Betsy and Brian in a same British-based group instead of having them together for a couple of issues or a mini.
I think it'll be interesting. Having an Asian body with English Root, writers should make a interesting story and characterization about it.

Completely. It is the ultimate wasted opportunity for the character.

Although I've long since suspected that the true reason for never having both on the same team for long would be that somebody might try to address the fact that Betsy is NOT a mutant, but a feat of genetic engineering - as was always infered. I still await the day we see a story where the discovery of a hidden cave in the grounds of Braddock Manor reveals a lab full of failed 'test versions' of Brian, Jamie and Betsys... :eek:

All the Betsys will be blond, of course...

Sadly, she's literally being literally exiled in New Exiles and I also think that's not good for any character, especially for someone like Psylocke. She's pretty much wasted in New Exiles. I'm probably one of a few that don't mind much with Claremont writing her (except her being beaten so many times :p ). But I do agree that she needs to go back to 616, probably soon. I'd love her to be in a high profile X-Book again.

I wish Claremont could have an alternate Betsy to play with and join the New Exiles, thus sending the original back to the Real MU. <Fingers crossed>

The problem I have with returning her to the X-Books is a similar problem to having Colossus back. Nobody's really sure how to voice her, or wjhat to do with her. I would have loved to hae had Carey write her, but now he's doing Legacy I honestly don't see a place for her.

CB&MI:13 is the natural place, right now. And it is still an X-Book technically -It's certainly still edited by the X-Office.

[boshobosho]

In her British Body she wasn't possessed in above normal strength. That Barbell could've been around 50lbs or so. The average woman can toss that pretty easily. She was also tall enough to give it a good momentum, and that carried it towards sabertooth. So she had normal strength, she could lift her body weight somewhat , which was around 140-150ish.

I don't think tossing a 50lb. dumbell is easy under any circumstances. Just wanted to point that out.

[jarrod]

In terms of power level, I'd put Betsy around Emma's level or slightly higher. Her psi did seem to take a turn after the Hand transformation though, but that could've just as easily been psychological (she *was* a bit traumatized by it all). Then the 90s (and Fabe/Slobby) came. :/

I'd also be inclined to link Betsy's varied psychic abilities more to Otherworld directly, like her brother Brian. Maybe while he manifests the dimensional energies as enhanced physicality, she manifests as psychic phenomena, both twins then augmenting complimentary abilities and control over Otherworld's power... I'd submit that this was also the purpose of their breeding and how they'll (both, working together) eventually be able to rule Otherworld.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I'd also be inclined to link Betsy's varied psychic abilities more to Otherworld directly, like her brother Brian. Maybe while he manifests the dimensional energies as enhanced physicality, she manifests as psychic phenomena, both twins then augmenting complimentary abilities and control over Otherworld's power... I'd submit that this was also the purpose of their breeding and how they'll (both, working together) eventually be able to rule Otherworld.

That was always the plan, but Claremont's meddling in retconning Betsy into being a mutant, and his recent forgetting Captain Britain was Guardian of Otherworld, has basically messed up that storyline for a good many years. We may see it again, but I'm beginning to doubt whether Marvel will ever LET it happen.

[DDM]

Now, I know I'm a bit biased, but whenever Jean has had telepathy, she's been said to be leagues above Psylocke in sheer power - hence the taunts from Shadow King in Psi Wars and Jean trying to help Betsy hone her telepathy. I agree though that Betsy certainly used her powers more creatively (actually, that probably had more to do with the fact that Claremont had been writing telepaths for quite some time up to that point and was doing more interesting things with them). I was always under the impression that Betsy was an average telepath with a lot of creativity.

Psylocke's telepathy has been described to be as powerful as Colossus' strength in Uncanny X-Men #225; therefore, she is in league with Emma Frost & Charles Xavier in power. Furthermore, Psylocke is unique in that she was a psycho-blaster whose telepathy can manifest physical manifestations in the real world such as dent steel.

After her transformation by the Hand (via Mojo & Spiral), none of this has changed. Psylocke just used her telepathy more with her new physical skills as ninja. Psylocke's psychic knife has been compared to be as deadly as Wolverine's claws, disrupting her victim's cerebral neurons.

The Shadow King taunted Psylocke because he has more power than any other telepath save perhaps Phoenix (Jean Grey, Rachel Summers). Phoenix's powers dwarfed any other mutant since she has the universe as her power source.

[CmX]

Psylocke was originally intended as a powerful and very creative telepath, but for whatever reasons Lobdell wrote her down as a weaker TP that couldn't handle shit and would pass out left and right.

Not to mention her psyknife is supposed to as soon as it makes contact knock the person out at the very LEAST. But they'd write it as temporarily stunning the enemy and by temprarily I mean like two panels and they were up and running.

I don't think Lobdell got a great grasp on her capabilities at all.

[DDM]

Psylocke was originally intended as a powerful and very creative telepath, but for whatever reasons Lobdell wrote her down as a weaker TP that couldn't handle shit and would pass out left and right.

Not to mention her psyknife is supposed to as soon as it makes contact knock the person out at the very LEAST. But they'd write it as temporarily stunning the enemy and by temprarily I mean like two panels and they were up and running.

I don't think Lobdell got a great grasp on her capabilities at all.

I think Scott Lobdell did not like Psylocke as a character & this is the reason he wrote her like he did.

In New Mutants #46, Karma attempts to possess the injured Sunder to subdue him, but her inexperience overwhelms her; therefore, Psylocke takes over by possessing Sunder & calming Karma down at the same time. Psylocke--when Claremont wrote her--is a very powerful multi-tasked telepath.

[Phil Hunn]

Yes, but if he mattered MORE then she would BE even contemplated for such a role. She had been the only one of Claremont's pet characters which he has been allowed to take to eXiles. Then he got the chance of Sage. Now I get the feeling she'll even get sidelined for Sage.

I think we got to see that when uber-ninja Psylocke got effortlessly saved from an E-list villain's dopey henchmen by Sage.

:(

Although I've long since suspected that the true reason for never having both on the same team for long would be that somebody might try to address the fact that Betsy is NOT a mutant, but a feat of genetic engineering - as was always infered. I still await the day we see a story where the discovery of a hidden cave in the grounds of Braddock Manor reveals a lab full of failed 'test versions' of Brian, Jamie and Betsys... :eek:

All the Betsys will be blond, of course...

Psylocke: Warsong? :eek:

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Psylocke: Warsong? :eek:

Lol. I think it would be better as part of a Sir James Braddock: Captain Britain mini - let's shake out all those old skeletons from the closet. Sir James had plenty, and I find it a little hard to believe that Jamie, Betsy and Brian were his 'first goes' at creating heirs for Otherworld...

[Tazirai]

Psylocke was originally intended as a powerful and very creative telepath, but for whatever reasons Lobdell wrote her down as a weaker TP that couldn't handle shit and would pass out left and right.

Not to mention her psyknife is supposed to as soon as it makes contact knock the person out at the very LEAST. But they'd write it as temporarily stunning the enemy and by temprarily I mean like two panels and they were up and running.

I don't think Lobdell got a great grasp on her capabilities at all.

that Pissed me off to no degree. She was supposed to be powerful, yet portrayed sometimes, like Jean grey in the tv show. :mad: :mad:

Now, I know I'm a bit biased, but whenever Jean has had telepathy, she's been said to be leagues above Psylocke in sheer power - hence the taunts from Shadow King in Psi Wars and Jean trying to help Betsy hone her telepathy. I agree though that Betsy certainly used her powers more creatively (actually, that probably had more to do with the fact that Claremont had been writing telepaths for quite some time up to that point and was doing more interesting things with them). I was always under the impression that Betsy was an average telepath with a lot of creativity.

Creative she was.. That's a fact. Her weaknesses in physical combat' was more than made up for with her Creativity using her powers.
Like this below.

When she takes out Arclight and pervboy.
Feigning defeat, she lets her get close.. then the WHAMMY!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/Untitled-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/Untitled-2.jpg

[Anon_me]

In her British Body she wasn't possessed in above normal strength. That Barbell could've been around 50lbs or so. The average woman can toss that pretty easily. She was also tall enough to give it a good momentum, and that carried it towards sabertooth. So she had normal strength, she could lift her body weight somewhat , which was around 140-150ish.

That barbell looked heavier than 100 lbs to me.

[DDM]

That barbell looked heavier than 100 lbs to me.

The only time Psylocke possessed superhuman strength is when she became Captain Britain II for about a month in Captain Britain #13 (she gained the ability to fly too); otherwise, Psylocke possesses normal strength of a person who engages in regular exercise.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

The only time Psylocke possessed superhuman strength is when she became Captain Britain II for about a month in Captain Britain #13 (she gained the ability to fly too); otherwise, Psylocke possesses normal strength of a person who engages in regular exercise.

And that was only possible via the Kaptain Briton suit, certainly not via her own powers.

[CmX]

The only time Psylocke possessed superhuman strength is when she became Captain Britain II for about a month in Captain Britain #13 (she gained the ability to fly too); otherwise, Psylocke possesses normal strength of a person who engages in regular exercise.

Psylocke also occasionally uses her TK to back up her physical hits to the point of super strength.

[metalgorgomon]

After reading New Exiles #4, I think I'm very pleased with how Psylocke was written especially regarding her powerset.
I know it's a still a FAR from what I was expected from a Telekinetic Ninja .

But in this ish, she used her power creatively. And for once, She's being written as a powerful TK she's supposed to be.

Of course, she still use that TK Katana which I don't prefer:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylockeinnewexiles45.jpg

I kinda hated that she used her katana as a baseball bat. At least she could change the katana to a bat before using it as one.

But the good thing is, she also used her TK to

Attack a rival from a distant as was shown the unlettered preview art.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/NEWEX4_5-1.jpg

And I love seing her Psychic blade in this issue. I just wish she stabbed Black Panther's head with the blade.

Psylocke (together with Susan Storm) also contained a Nuclear explosion from being spread and protected the team and Namor's family. It's too bad that we didn't see it on panel. But i think it's sorta looked like when she in Rachel blocked an energy beam from Shiar aircraft Ucanny (Wandering Star arc).

I like how she's also quite vulnerable after using that much of raw Tk power, since she fainted right after doing the stunt.

Some will probably complaint on how she becoming this powerful, but since her ressurection, Jamie made her TK in such a great level and I think it's just ignorance not to write her as one.

[Domo Goddess]

^I love your avatar.

Little cards I found.

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1Betsysticker1.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1Betsysticker2.jpg

[DDM]

Psylocke also occasionally uses her TK to back up her physical hits to the point of super strength.

Jean Grey & Rachel Summers have done similar feats when using their telekinesis to enhance their strength, but this only for short periods of time. It still does not mean Psylocke has superhuman strength.

[Phil Hunn]

And that was only possible via the Kaptain Briton suit, certainly not via her own powers.

I never understood why she was so keen to wear that suit, considering its previous owner had tried to rape her...

[DDM]

I never understood why she was so keen to wear that suit, considering its previous owner had tried to rape her...

Basically, it was the only other Captain Britain suit available. However, I like the creepy undertones considering she was blinded by Slaymaster as her one & only time as Captain Britain. Betsy did not like the idea of wearing the costume either, but she was convinced by the RCX operatives since Brian disavowed being Captain Britain.

[Domo Goddess]

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1BetsyVSCard.jpg

[CmX]

That's a cool pic but shame they mis-colored her hair. I don't understand how so frequently her hair isn't purple it's like her trademark.

[Anon_me]

wow...those sure are some big girls on her.

[wonderland]

With everything happening to the xmen and mutants in general, not to mention certain invasions...Marvel need to get her back to 616. :D

[Tazirai]

With everything happening to the xmen and mutants in general, not to mention certain invasions...Marvel need to get her back to 616. :D

I second that.. and third it.. and fourth it.. etc etc etc.:D

[metalgorgomon]

For those who's been wondering since when Psylocke can fly, I believe this is the first time she was been shown flying (X-Men #103, 2000)


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-XMen103FirstFlying.jpg

[Phil Hunn]

For those who's been wondering since when Psylocke can fly, I believe this is the first time she was been shown flying (X-Men #103, 2000)


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-XMen103FirstFlying.jpg

I think you're right. The 2000 Revolution brought many firsts...