Psylocke Appreciation Thread

[peopleofpaper]

Is Rogue, Psylocke's personal whipping girl?

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/PsylockeTraining239-16.jpg


i want someone to draw psylocke in that outfit (sans hood) romantically draping colossus in his bikini x-briefs. how romantic.

[psycwave]

LOL! Yes, that last sequence (Rogue flying headfirst into rocks) happened when they were on Muir Island together. Thanks for the anthology of Rogue beatdowns, Psyc :wink:

Yes. Psylocke has beaten Rogue back so many times it doesn't even make sense. I can't find my scan of her making Rogue crash into the rocks though. If anyone has it, scans would be much appreciated. <3

[eurazn]

Yes. Psylocke has beaten Rogue back so many times it doesn't even make sense. I can't find my scan of her making Rogue crash into the rocks though. If anyone has it, scans would be much appreciated. <3

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/psylockevsrogue.jpg

[psycwave]

Exquisite! <3 Raz. Rogue was soooooooooo Betsy's prison bitch.

[eurazn]

Exquisite! <3 Raz. Rogue was soooooooooo Betsy's prison bitch.

Right?!?! Telepathy or not, Asian body or not, that hierarchy is a canon-established CONSTANT.

[psycwave]

Right?!?! Telepathy or not, Asian body or not, that hierarchy is a canon-established CONSTANT.

Totally. I wonder if Prof Carey will remember that when he has them both in Legacy.

[Havok83]

yuck! That was back when Rogue was the fugliest X chick around. She was just begging to get beat down

[Drey]

Lovely scans, Betsy rocks in both forms with both powers. <3 <3 <3 <3

[KMar]

Is Rogue, Psylocke's personal whipping girl?

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/PsylockeTraining239-16.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/0000-5.jpg

And of course that other training session where she made Rogue go head first into some rocks.

lol at Rogue looking like she's giving Betsy a titty twister in the first pic

[slacker]

Hi people. Long time lurker, read this thread up n down. :evilsmile:

I got a youtube channel with Psylocke videos in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 if anyone's interested in the game. =).
http://www.youtube.com/user/BraddockManor

I'm so glad she's becoming more and more a significant presence in the X universe!

Psylocke whoops ass. Psylocke is gorgeous. Psylocke whoops ass while looking gorgeous.

[CmX]

Hi people. Long time lurker, read this thread up n down. :evilsmile:

I got a youtube channel with Psylocke videos in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 if anyone's interested in the game. =).
http://www.youtube.com/user/BraddockManor

I'm so glad she's becoming more and more a significant presence in the X universe!

Psylocke whoops ass. Psylocke is gorgeous. Psylocke whoops ass while looking gorgeous.

Welcome!

Post more often. :)

[Drey]

Welcome to the boards slacker, don't be a stranger! :smile:

[psycwave]

Hi people. Long time lurker, read this thread up n down. :evilsmile:

I got a youtube channel with Psylocke videos in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 if anyone's interested in the game. =).
http://www.youtube.com/user/BraddockManor

I'm so glad she's becoming more and more a significant presence in the X universe!

Psylocke whoops ass. Psylocke is gorgeous. Psylocke whoops ass while looking gorgeous.

I like you. Welcome Slacker.

[slacker]

Thanks guys, I'll definitely be posting as often as I can. :tongue:

[jeansbff]

Hi slacker, love your avatar. Lol if betsys in a bad mood she can just beat the crap out of rogue. :biggrin:

[jeansbff]

I loled for ages there! I looked at a page w all the british things betsy could do like drink tea and say bloody hell a lot. It would be funny if she was sitting at a table w scott and emma sipping at her tea and then she shouts at them " Fancy a bicky ? " She could have freshly baked scones every morning complete with damson jam and clotted cream. I'm gon' get me some scones!

[slacker]

http://i36.tinypic.com/xnvon4.jpg

Guess we're gonna find out about logan's intentions for hitching a ride to Japan soon eh?

!!

[.LuckyStar.]

I love that we're getting Wolverine/Psylocke in both Psylocke and Uncanny! All I need is Jubilee now.

[psycwave]

And she(Jubes) is coming back in Nation X. The Madripoor Trio returns!!!!

<3<3<3

[jarrod]

I love that we're getting Wolverine/Psylocke in both Psylocke and Uncanny! All I need is Jubilee now.
We're also getting Logan/Betsy(+Kurt) in Weapon-X soon. <3 <3

[runsliketurtle09]

I was kind of bummed when I first saw the cover for Psylocke #4, because I was disappointed that Wolverine would be butting in on Betsy's long awaited mini. But I noticed he is in his X-Force uniform. Maybe this could be her path to joining the team?
Her goal of killing Matsuo shows her willingness to use lethal force, the team doesn't have a telepath, and in Psylocke #1, Wolverine says that he trusts Betsy more than most. Plus we know that Yost likes the character. Heck, if she joined the team, she would also get a new costume, which a lot of people on this thread seem to want.

[.LuckyStar.]

And she(Jubes) is coming back in Nation X. The Madripoor Trio returns!!!!

<3<3<3
I don't remember Fantomex that much. Will he get along with Betsy?

We're also getting Logan/Betsy(+Kurt) in Weapon-X soon. <3 <3
In Legacy too!

I'm not mad. I think it makes perfect sense for Wolverine to be part of this story. He's probably Betsy's closest male friend. He was there for her when the body swap happened. And he has very personal issues with Matsu'o as well. I can't wait for their interaction!

[psycwave]

I don't remember Fantomex that much. Will he get along with Betsy?


He is faux french. He and Betts can trade stories of their race baiting ways. I'm sure they would get along seeing as how Fantomex is rather chummy.


In Legacy too!

I'm not mad. I think it makes perfect sense for Wolverine to be part of this story. He's probably Betsy's closest male friend. He was there for her when the body swap happened. And he has very personal issues with Matsu'o as well. I can't wait for their interaction!

Yeah I love the fact that Wolvie is in it. I mean he had a quick appearance in issue one and isn't gonna be seen again until the end, and even then they are gonna fight/scuffle. It's gonna be great.

[jeansbff]

Why do logan and betsy fight when betsy can pour them a nice cup of tea? They could have a teddy tea party too if thats what they wanted. Psylocke could bring her barbie doll with purple hair of course and logan could bring his piece of jean greys hair. Thats the end of the tea jokes from me, if i make anymore ill rofl through the roof. They could have a packet of custard creams too. What the hell is stopping them? Now its over!

[CmX]

I'm not bad about Wolverine being involved in the story either, I'm actually thrilled. I have always liked their dynamic and think it's way past due that they interact and go on adventures again.

My only gripe is the mediocre cover, I think it could have been done different a number of ways. Psylocke looks weird and scared.

[jarrod]

In Legacy too!
Words can't express how psyched I am for that arc. I just wish that was Carey's ongoing cast. :(

[pharoahe22]

The only thing I ca even see them bickering over is who gets to kill Matsu'o...bc Wolverine's been cutting off a piece of Matsu'o every year on the anniversary of Mariko's death (since he was responsible for it)...but even still I can't really see it. If Yost has Wolverine defending Matsu'o for any reason at all I'll be pretty pissed. I've always loved the Wolverine/Psylocke Dynamic...good to see them interacting in this, Uncanny, and Weapon X

[PsylockeSpears]

Yeah the Psylocke and Wolvie team up is always a winner with me.They just work well together.They never make it a secret of the strong friendship they share either,and i LOVE the fact its a balanced friendship between a man and a woman (espically since wolvies back catalogue of asian hotties and X-women,not alone those both factors combined together) that never ventures on romantic.

Im really not sure what they could draw blood about tho.

[jarrod]

Wolverine doesn't want to kill Matsuo. He wants him alive and suffering.

[rawhidekid]

Wish there would have been a mini where Wolverine didn't show up. :(

Anyways the cover is missing something and I don't like it. It needs more Psylocke butt.

[PsylockeSpears]

Wish there would have been a mini where Wolverine didn't show up. :(

Anyways the cover is missing something and I don't like it. It needs more Psylocke butt.


thought u wouldnt be interested in psychic ninga butt with that username lol

[rawhidekid]

thought u wouldnt be interested in psychic ninga butt with that username lol

Ha. Yeah not many get that. I like rawhidekid cause whenever I sign up for something online that login is never taken.

[Tazirai]

Loved the shots of her ownin rogue. Makes me feel good to see her in that suit.

Damn MUST Wolverine pop up in EVERY comic book?

http://wolverine.x-knights.com/fullsize/wolverine62.jpg
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/WOLVERINE.jpg
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/earthwolverineevery1.jpg

[CmX]

Yes. He will be in Psylocke and it'll be great. I can't wait. :)

[slacker]

Yes. He will be in Psylocke and it'll be great. I can't wait. :)

Whoa whoa whoa.

Yeah I can't wait either!! That earlier theory of her joining X-Force sounds nice.

[Drey]

I'm not bad about Wolverine being involved in the story either, I'm actually thrilled. I have always liked their dynamic and think it's way past due that they interact and go on adventures again.

My only gripe is the mediocre cover, I think it could have been done different a number of ways. Psylocke looks weird and scared.

She just caught a whiff of Wolvie's breath. Not good.

I agree that the cover isn't the best.

[CmX]

Whoa whoa whoa.

Yeah I can't wait either!! That earlier theory of her joining X-Force sounds nice.

hahahahaha I meant to edit in Psylocke #4, but was eh.

[Bolebeau]

I don't mind Wolverine being in Psylocke's mini. He's was deeply involved in her Asian body's origin story, and has a long-running history with the man Psylocke is trying to kill.

Plus, maybe she'll have another opportunity to kick his ass. Fighters with minor telepathy have been able to give Wolverine a lot of trouble, and Psylocke has the added benefit of being more skilled/powerful a telepath AND has telekinesis.

Really, if she doesn't kick his ass, it would be criminal.

[PsylockeSpears]

Yeah for once i think Wolvies apperance in another comic is justified.The story actually allows for an organic apperance.

[Havok83]

For the most part I hate her Revolution costume but this has to be about the best Ive ever seen it

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1466/poster54.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/i/poster54.jpg/)

[CmX]

For the most part I hate her Revolution costume but this has to be about the best Ive ever seen it

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1466/poster54.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/i/poster54.jpg/)

That's the worst look Psylocke has ever had IMO. It has too much going on, I don't like the top, and the hair is short.

If it was tweaked it could probably work.

[Selene]

Whilst I didn't think Revolution was as bad as people criticized it,I,too,think that Betsy was dreadful around that era.The costume,the power-set,"Dunderbird"(I prefer addressing him as such)...Everything.

[CmX]

Whilst I didn't think Revolution was as bad as people criticized it,I,too,think that Betsy was dreadful around that era.The costume,the power-set,"Dunderbird"(I prefer addressing him as such)...Everything.

That's probably why I dislike it so much. It was a very bad time to be a Psylocke fan, plus her death soon followed which lead to many years w/out a mention of her.

[Selene]

That's probably why I dislike it so much. It was a very bad time to be a Psylocke fan, plus her death soon followed which lead to many years w/out a mention of her.
That(Psylocke's mistreatment),the introduction of Dunderbird,Magneto(sod-off,Lobdell)and the Neo(lousy villains)were my only complaints about Revolution.I enjoyed the rest;Rogue gained her inner strength back,Jean and Scott finally became interesting as a couple and Cable joined the X-Men fold.

Bloody hell...And if Betsy's downfall started by 2000 that means she spent ten years of horrific handling as a character...Well,seven,if you exclude the period when she was dead.

[CmX]

And if Betsy's downfall started by 2000 that means she spent ten years of horrific handling as a character...Well,seven,if you exclude the period when she was dead.

Her downfall began with the body swap IMO, then it got much worse with the crimson down and then finally her unexplained telekinesis just topped it off.

[Talisman]

Her downfall began with the body swap IMO, then it got much worse with the crimson down and then finally her unexplained telekinesis just topped it off.
I'd have to agree. While I love Revanche, I just think the other X-writers didn't know what to do with her, and tried making her Jean lite, but with an edge. I think if Lobdell had written her as snarky as he did Emma in Generation X, she wouldn't have had nearly as many problems as she's had since the 90's.

[Selene]

Yes,I dispised the retcon with Revanche,but I wouldn't say Psylocke was mal-written during Nicieza's run...She displayed a lot of inner strength,plus,I adored her relationship with Warren.I certainly agree,however,Nicieza complicated unnecessarily her background story.And-please,don't attack me-I happened to be amongst the few who really liked the Crimson Dawn aspect of Betsy.Psylocke,as a woman who explored her mystical side and struggled to maintain the balance between her good and her evil side,was wonderful,in my opinion.

Perhaps,if her acquiring Jean's telekinesis had been shown in panel,people might have accepted it...Never-the-less,I wouldn't have.

I think her downfall was culminated with the Sisterhood arc.It was supposed to be a story that focused on Betsy,yet she was nothing more than a plot-device.

[Talisman]

Yes,I dispised the retcon with Revanche,but I wouldn't say Psylocke was mal-written during Nicieza's run...She displayed a lot of inner strength,plus,I adored her relationship with Warren.I certainly agree,however,Nicieza complicated unnecessarily her background story.And-please,don't attack me-I happened to be amongst the few who really liked the Crimson Dawn aspect of Betsy.Psylocke,as a woman who explored her mystical side and struggled to maintain the balance between her good and her evil side,was wonderful,in my opinion.

Perhaps,if her acquiring Jean's telekinesis had been shown in panel,people might have accepted it...Never-the-less,I wouldn't have.

I think her downfall was culminated with the Sisterhood arc.It was supposed to be a story that focused on Betsy,yet she was nothing more than a plot-device.
That could be said for all the characters in Fraction's run, other than Emma and Scott.

[Bolebeau]

she was nothing more than a plot-device.

You'd think there'd need to be more of a coherent plot for any character to serve as a plot-device.

[Selene]

That could be said for all the characters in Fraction's run, other than Emma and Scott.
Yes,but as I said,Psylocke was supposed to be the major X-Man in the Sisterhood arc.Colossus was the protagonist of Fraction's previous arc and he recieved adequate character progression,as opposed to how poorly Betsy was used in "Sisterhood".

[Selene]

You'd think there'd need to be more of a coherent plot for any character to serve as a plot-device.
Excellent point. :smile: The enormous number of plot-holes and the fast pace of that story were certainly great factors of the bad usage of characters in that story.

[jarrod]

Sisterhood was awful, but I actually haven't minded Fraction's Betsy since. Even when she's (literally) talking out her ass. <3

Body Swap and Crimson Dawn were harder to swallow imo. And I HATED the "sloppy seconds" romance with Warren. Ugh, 90s Betsy sucked.

[GambitXRemy]

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.10319.FIRST_LOOK%7Ecolon%7E_Psylocke_ %232
previews to next psylocke issue

[jarrod]

Is Betsy fighting Yukio!!?!

[Talisman]

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.10319.FIRST_LOOK%7Ecolon%7E_Psylocke_ %232
previews to next psylocke issue

<3<3<3BUTTERFLY EFFECT!!!<3<3<3

[Havok83]

Im like one of the few that actually liked the Crimson Dawn. I loved Betsy with the shadow powers. Psi-War is by far my favorite Psylocke story and it made good use of the enhancements she got from the CD. I loved her being able to teleport in shadows and her astral shadow form rocked.

[psycwave]

Body Swap and Crimson Dawn were harder to swallow imo. And I HATED the "sloppy seconds" romance with Warren. Ugh, 90s Betsy sucked.

Agreed. The romance with Warren was nice in the beginning but looking back it was terrible and so UGH.

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.10319.FIRST_LOOK%7Ecolon%7E_Psylocke_ %232
previews to next psylocke issue

HOLYSHIT! AMAZING! <3<3<3<3<3

[CmX]

Holy hell that preview looks incredible! It really perked me up after finding out that Ms. Marvel is cancelled. :'/

Go Betsy Go!

[psycwave]

I think this may be my favorite page of the preview:
http://marvel.com/images/606318./from/content.story.10319
It's everything you would expect from Betts. Sneaky, deadly, powerful. Love it! <3

[CmX]

It looks like she's using her TK to back up her hits in a few of those panels.

[Drey]

Im like one of the few that actually liked the Crimson Dawn. I loved Betsy with the shadow powers. Psi-War is by far my favorite Psylocke story and it made good use of the enhancements she got from the CD. I loved her being able to teleport in shadows and her astral shadow form rocked.

I first got into comics during the Crimson Dawn Limited Series and immediately fell in love with Psylocke. She was a combination of everything I liked. She was trying to find her identify, which I could relate to being a teenager and all. Then she was a ninja and I used to practice martial arts. She had telepathy which was one of my favorite powers and she had a mystical connection thru her family and the Crimson Dawn--and at that time I was curious about stuff like that...had to stop that I think that stuff kinda works.

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.10319.FIRST_LOOK%7Ecolon%7E_Psylocke_ %232
previews to next psylocke issue

OMG!!! OMG!! <3 <3 <3 Everything looks great!! Thanks for posting that!! <3

Holy hell that preview looks incredible! It really perked me up after finding out that Ms. Marvel is cancelled. :'/


WHAT??!! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! :frown:

I can't even be happy for a minute. :frown:

[Selene]

Agreed. The romance with Warren was nice in the beginning but looking back it was terrible and so UGH.
Uh,how? :smile:

By the way,did you notice that she headbutts Yukio in the second panel? :biggrin:

http://marvel.com/i/content/10319new_storyimage-98474417|527.2030651341x800.jpg

[jeansbff]

I love the way tolibao draws the knife and the butterfly. Hes one of my fav betsy artists now. Was that Yukio? The knives are her thing and all...

[Selene]

I first got into comics during the Crimson Dawn Limited Series and immediately fell in love with Psylocke. She was a combination of everything I liked. She was trying to find her identify, which I could relate to being a teenager and all. Then she was a ninja and I used to practice martial arts. She had telepathy which was one of my favorite powers and she had a mystical connection thru her family and the Crimson Dawn--and at that time I was curious about stuff like that...had to stop that I think that stuff kinda works.
My thoughts exactly. :smile:

(By the way,the very first comic I purchased with Betsy was Uncanny X-Men #258. :smile: )

[Bolebeau]

Psylocke has been BLESSED with such an awesome looking mini-series. Let's pray that it will actually end up as a solo series (with the same creative team) if the sales for the mini are high enough. There's so many awesome stories to be told with Betsy.

Im like one of the few that actually liked the Crimson Dawn. I loved Betsy with the shadow powers. Psi-War is by far my favorite Psylocke story and it made good use of the enhancements she got from the CD. I loved her being able to teleport in shadows and her astral shadow form rocked.

I loved her Crimson Dawn powers too. The shadow teleportation fit her character nicely (the ninja thing), and her astral form did look great. I also really did love Psi-War. It was my first comicbook story that featured Psylocke as well, so I might be biased. God knows the teleportation had me confused at first, since I only knew her as a telepath before that.

[psycwave]

Uh,how? :smile:


Just never really saw any depth in the relationship. They never had a real reason as to why they were in a relationship together. They were two people who were both "broken" at the time and never really made their way up together. They were always going through their own drama and when one tried to help the other, the person who needed the help was pushing away. Being cold, angsty, emotionless. They had a few "moments" but nothing that ever really made me say these two should be together. Plus, they didn't really have that much in common personality wise.


By the way,did you notice that she headbutts Yukio in the second panel? :biggrin:

http://marvel.com/i/content/10319new_storyimage-98474417|527.2030651341x800.jpg

I did and its lovely.


I loved her Crimson Dawn powers too. The shadow teleportation fit her character nicely (the ninja thing), and her astral form did look great. I also really did love Psi-War. It was my first comicbook story that featured Psylocke as well, so I might be biased. God knows the teleportation had me confused at first, since I only knew her as a telepath before that.

I actually did like the shadow port powers of the Crimson dawn just didn't like the confusion and added craziness it brought with it.

[Bolebeau]

I actually did like the shadow port powers of the Crimson dawn just didn't like the confusion and added craziness it brought with it.

- Psylocke almost dies;
- A mystical force is used to save her;
- Psylocke gains new abilities because of her exposure to the magical force.

It's not nearly as complicated as her body swap.

[Tazirai]

Her downfall began with the body swap IMO, then it got much worse with the crimson down and then finally her unexplained telekinesis just topped it off.

I agree with you on this. i also agree that Wolverine is part of her history in an intimate way. But i'm also sick of Seeing Wolverine.

now wheres that link

[psycwave]

- Psylocke almost dies;
- A mystical force is used to save her;
- Psylocke gains new abilities because of her exposure to the magical force.

It's not nearly as complicated as her body swap.

True.
Not really complicated just excessive and unneeded IMO. But then again that is the X-men's way. Plus I didn't care for the crimson dawn eye mark.

[CmX]

- Psylocke almost dies;
- A mystical force is used to save her;
- Psylocke gains new abilities because of her exposure to the magical force.

It's not nearly as complicated as her body swap.

It's not that it's confusing, but it adds another layer to her characters history which I felt wasn't needed. Another power, a change in her appearance. I just didn't ever enjoy it. I felt it was only done because Lobdell had no other idea what do with her and shortly after she pretty much faded away until Claremont returned. So it was a pointless move.

[Tazirai]

Here we go...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WolverinePublicity

"I stopped reading X-Men about the same time they started putting Wolverine on the cover of comics in which he didn't actually, technically, appear."
—Lore Sjöberg, The Book of Ratings, "Marvel Supervillains (Part I)"

"He's the best there is at what he does, and what he does is make gratuitous guest appearances."
—The Transformers Wiki on Wolverine

Certain popular characters within a fictional universe get used in gratuitous and/or inappropriate ways to enhance marketing.

Superhero teams in comic books constantly change. Characters join and leave so often that any given superhero team is often unrecognizable within a year. Other superhero teams have a Heroes Unlimited setup, where there are Loads And Loads Of Characters and no two issues will have the same group. As a result, there are a lot more fans of particular comic-book characters than there are fans of particular comic-book teams or comic-book titles. Fans will like a new team book not if it has a name they recognize, but if it has characters they recognize. A new title will often sell based on whether it has already-popular characters in it, and existing characters will often be made more or less powerful based on how popular they are with readers.

This leads to one of the most overused tricks in comic-book marketing. When a character is very popular, they will often get Wolverine Publicity: appearing in every comic book title and format possible until the fans get sick of them. The character will often have a flood of mini-series which desperately search for something new to do with them ("in this issue, Wolverine visits Turkmenistan!").

[jarrod]

No Yukio talk?


- Psylocke almost dies;
- A mystical force is used to save her;
- Psylocke gains new abilities because of her exposure to the magical force.

It's not nearly as complicated as her body swap.
But it's just as racist and twice as sexist. <3

[Selene]

Just never really saw any depth in the relationship. They never had a real reason as to why they were in a relationship together. They were two people who were both "broken" at the time and never really made their way up together. They were always going through their own drama and when one tried to help the other, the person who needed the help was pushing away. Being cold, angsty, emotionless. They had a few "moments" but nothing that ever really made me say these two should be together. Plus, they didn't really have that much in common personality wise.
Well,they were quite charming together when they started flirting with each other.They were two souls who shared the same pain;people who had been altered physically and mentally brainwashed.And the problems in their relationship were to be expected,considering that the Crimson Dawn was meddling with Betsy's personality,but Warren did help her through it.He even sacrificed a part of his soul to help her come to her senses,so I can't see why you call their relationship "cold" and "emotionless",really.Both of them were strengthened by their relationship and Warren made peace with the loss of his wings during the Mutant Massacre incident only thanks to Betsy.Also,most couples hardly have anything in common,personality-wise.

[Talisman]

If she ever gets another mini, I hope we see someone else besides Ninjas for her to go up against. Not that I'm not loving the mini so far, but I'm a bit over her being ninjafied and that be the only thing she's known for.

[Tazirai]

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.10319.FIRST_LOOK%7Ecolon%7E_Psylocke_ %232
previews to next psylocke issue

THATS how A telepathic ninja should act. Not all direct and what not. Use her powers to amplify her stealth and use surprise. I ALWAYS hated how she would just run up to a strong foe and attack them.

This is going back to how British Psylocke used her powers to befuddle before attacking directly.

[jarrod]

Betsy and Warren was purely superficial, that's why it felt hollow. I never really got any spark between them, they were just paired up for convenience and out of similarity when you really get down to it.

[Tazirai]

If she ever gets another mini, I hope we see someone else besides Ninjas for her to go up against. Not that I'm not loving the mini so far, but I'm a bit over her being ninjafied and that be the only thing she's known for.

same as you mate.

[jarrod]

If she ever gets another mini, I hope we see someone else besides Ninjas for her to go up against. Not that I'm not loving the mini so far, but I'm a bit over her being ninjafied and that be the only thing she's known for.
Next mini should be UK centric. I want Betsy pulled into MI13 for some covert wetworky espionagy goodness. And she should wear her wetsuit. <3<3

[Bolebeau]

If she ever gets another mini, I hope we see someone else besides Ninjas for her to go up against. Not that I'm not loving the mini so far, but I'm a bit over her being ninjafied and that be the only thing she's known for.

I'd like another Psylocke mini (or solo series!) to feature her brother and Meggan. Anything less and I'll throw a diva fit.

[Selene]

Betsy and Warren was purely superficial, that's why it felt hollow. I never really got any spark between them, they were just paired up for convenience and out of similarity when you really get down to it.
Whom would you suggest as the ideal lover for Betsy,then? :smile:

[Talisman]

same as you mate.

Next mini should be UK centric. I want Betsy pulled into MI13 for some covert wetworky espionagy goodness. And she should wear her wetsuit. <3<3
That'd be hot.
I'd like another Psylocke mini (or solo series!) to feature her brother and Meggan. Anything less and I'll throw a diva fit.
I'd also like to see Jamie there. Sans speedo. What is it with the Braddock clan loving to flaunt their asses?

I'd also like to see the Mastermind sisters to show up and put a serious hurting on Psy. It's time we saw a show where her powers and intellect were put to the test rather than her physical traits.

[jarrod]

Whom would you suggest as the ideal lover for Betsy,then? :smile:
Nightcrawler, Havok, Cannonball+Iceman or Sage.

[jarrod]

Q for the Psiguard. Is Betsy technically considered a member of MI13 since she's still a UK citizen? Actually, is Pixie as well?

[psycwave]

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I get where you're coming from, but like jarrod said it was a bit superficial in my eyes. I always saw them as folks who tried a relationship but realized they were better off as friends. They have love for each other but like Warren said when he broke up with her, they don't want the same things. And yeah I get that most relationships have rarely anything in common but there has to be some similar interest.

Next mini should be UK centric. I want Betsy pulled into MI13 for some covert wetworky espionagy goodness. And she should wear her wetsuit. <3<3

Wetsuit! <3<3<3

[Bolebeau]

I'd also like to see the Mastermind sisters to show up and put a serious hurting on Psy. It's time we saw a show where her powers and intellect were put to the test rather than her physical traits.

The Mastermind sisters would make EXCELLENT foes for Psylocke. Their powers seem pretty effective on telepaths (one of them had Emma on the ropes), but that'd just make them more interesting as foes.

[psycwave]

I'd also like to see the Mastermind sisters to show up and put a serious hurting on Psy. It's time we saw a show where her powers and intellect were put to the test rather than her physical traits.

Love it.

Q for the Psiguard. Is Betsy technically considered a member of MI13 since she's still a UK citizen? Actually, is Pixie as well?

I think so. Aren't all UK supers considered members? We totally need a storyline that has that conflict of interest. maybe they come calling while she is doing X-work. Wackiness ensues.

[Selene]

Nightcrawler, Havok, Cannonball+Iceman or Sage.
No to Nightcrawler.They work well as team-mates,but that's it.I can see them as flirting friends,but nothing more than that,really.Also,Betsy isn't his type,Kurt prefers being in relationships with less troublesome girls,whereas Betsy loves danger and action.

Havok and Betsy as a couple could be charming for a while,yes.But Havok would obviously return to Polaris eventually,since his ego is so big that he doesn't support the notion of the woman being the "man" in the relationships.

Cannonball and Iceman,I can only see her with those two in a one-night-stand.Then Betsy denies it ever happened. :smile:

Sage and Psylocke,now that's a pairing I'd approve. :smile:

[jarrod]

I think so. Aren't all UK supers considered members? We totally need a storyline that has that conflict of interest. maybe they come calling while she is doing X-work. Wackiness ensues.
Could make for a good story down the line. MI13 comes to Utopia to "collect" Betsy and Megan?

[eurazn]

I'd also like to see Jamie there. Sans speedo. What is it with the Braddock clan loving to flaunt their asses?

Their asses are Omniversal, Talisman. Roma charged them with sharing their assets with the multiverse.

I'd also like to see the Mastermind sisters to show up and put a serious hurting on Psy. It's time we saw a show where her powers and intellect were put to the test rather than her physical traits.

That would be so much fun and would serve to rectify the FAIL that was the Sisterhood arc.

[jarrod]

No to Nightcrawler.They work well as team-mates,but that's it.I can see them as flirting friends,but nothing more than that,really.Also,Betsy isn't his type,Kurt prefers being in relationships with less troublesome girls,whereas Betsy loves danger and action.

Havok and Betsy as a couple could be charming for a while,yes.But Havok would obviously return to Polaris eventually,since his ego is so big that he doesn't support the notion of the woman being the "man" in the relationships.

Cannonball and Iceman,I can only see her with those two in a one-night-stand.Then Betsy dinies it ever happened. :smile:

Sage and Psylocke,now that's a pairing I'd approve. :smile:
Kurt and Betsy work as opposites attracting. He'd help center and focus her, she'd help him live a little and let his wildside out. Really, they'd be really good for each other. Plus there's already some heavy CANONICAL sexual tension. <3 <3

Alex and Betsy had some spark back in the Outback days too, though I'd tend to agree that since they've barely even interacted. This one could be tougher. I think you've got Alex wrong though, Lorna is def the "man" in that relationship. Hell, Alex is at his sexiest when being dominated by power bitches (Emma, Ororo, Lorna, Betsy, Maddie).

Betsy + Sam + Bobby would be like Y tu Mama Tambien. Betsy + Sage would be like Bound.

[Selene]

The Mastermind sisters would make EXCELLENT foes for Psylocke. Their powers seem pretty effective on telepaths (one of them had Emma on the ropes), but that'd just make them more interesting as foes.
Gah.I lost my interest in them right after Fraction turned Regan into Emma's personal punching bag.

[eurazn]

Gah.I lost my interest in them right after Fraction turned Regan into Emma's personal punching bag.

Regan is the inferior sister, anyway. Plus she stole Dazzler's AoA outfit. Her treatment at the hands of Emma was justified.

[psycwave]

Could make for a good story down the line. MI13 comes to Utopia to "collect" Betsy and Megan?

It works. Plus we could get appearances and interaction(hopefully) galore. CB/Meggan/Kurt, Wisdom/Colossus, Tangerine, etc.

Kurt and Betsy work as opposites attracting. He'd help center and focus her, she'd help him live a little and let his wildside out. Really, they'd be really good for each other. Plus there's already some heavy CANONICAL sexual tension. <3 <3

Alex and Betsy had some spark back in the Outback days too, though I'd tend to agree that since they've barely even interacted. This one could be tougher. I think you've got Alex wrong though, Lorna is def the "man" in that relationship. Hell, Alex is at his sexiest when being dominated by power bitches (Emma, Ororo, Lorna, Betsy, Maddie).


These two I like. I am an avid Burtys shipper, but the time between Betts and Alex was great too. Of course they would have to hang around each other a bit more before anything. Maybe he still holds some animosity for the whole Siege Perilous. His views on not trusting her justified, they got some stuff to work out.

[jeansbff]

Not the wyngarde sisters, they were worse than their father. If they were psylockes enemies they would probably end up fighting eachother instead of psylocke herself.

[Bolebeau]

It's sad how people forgot that the Sisters Mastermind were awesome before Fraction got his hands on them.

Such a shame.

[Selene]

Kurt and Betsy work as opposites attracting. He'd help center and focus her, she'd help him live a little and let his wildside out. Really, they'd be really good for each other. Plus there's already some heavy CANONICAL sexual tension. <3 <3
Betsy only likes flirting with him as much as she likes flirting with Beast or Bishop and Kurt likes flirting with her as much as he likes flirting with Storm,Kitty and Rachel(though,it was hinted that he has deeper feelings for Rachel after he "pecked" her all of a sudden during a combat simulation).A sexual tension between the two has never been established.
Alex and Betsy had some spark back in the Outback days too, though I'd tend to agree that since they've barely even interacted. This one could be tougher. I think you've got Alex wrong though, Lorna is def the "man" in that relationship. Hell, Alex is at his sexiest when being dominated by power bitches (Emma, Ororo, Lorna, Betsy, Maddie).
Lorna certainly has never been the "man" in her relationship with Alex,though,you are correct,Alex is always dominated by female psychics(as most Summers brothers are). :smile: As I said,they'd look attractive together for a while,but I can't say their relationship would last for long.

[Selene]

Regan is the inferior sister, anyway. Plus she stole Dazzler's AoA outfit. Her treatment at the hands of Emma was justified.
I thought Regan was an outstanding character during Carey's Adjectiveless X-Men arc.I even liked her in X-Treme X-Men.Martinique was also quite impressive in "Divided we Stand".

[CmX]

I thought Regan was an outstanding character during Carey's Adjectiveless X-Men arc.I even liked her in X-Treme X-Men.Martinique was also quite impressive in "Divided we Stand".

I hated Regan during Xtreme, then loved her under Carey and now hate her again after Fraction.

It's an emotional roller coaster for me and Regan.

"Well I don't want to brag, but yeah I've helped save the world a couple of times" - Regan ♥

[psycwave]

I actually think the Wyngarde Sisters would be a marvelous foil to Psylocke. Martinique has the subtle dark and devious manipulation factor, while Regan is more outlandish and abrasive. They both play to all aspects of Betsy's character. I could see them in their own ways trying to beat her creating a whirlwind adventure. Though I couldn't really see them working together I could see them against each other. Maybe one goes after Betsy and the other tries to get to her first out of spite.

[Selene]

I hated Regan during Xtreme, then loved her under Carey and now hate her again after Fraction.

It's an emotional roller coaster for me and Regan.

"Well I don't want to brag, but yeah I've helped save the world a couple of times" - Regan ♥
Ha,I loved her conversation with Rogue in Adjectiveless X-Men #194:
Rogue:I'm givin' you the benefit of a whole lot of doubts,Regan.
Regan:So?You looking for gratitude?
Rogue:Not hardly.I just want to get a couple of things straight.One,you're here'cause you got personal stake in this.And tow,you're only wearing that uniform because your own wardrobe amounted to one white sheet.But while you're wearing it,you'll behave like an X-Man.Or so help me I will rip it off your back and you'll walk home naked.
Regan:Like to see you try,girl.

Also,her conversation with Robert in issue #195:
Iceman:Hey,you couldn't at least have made me a guy?
Regan:If God couldn't do it,Drake,how'd you expect me to?

[.LuckyStar.]

This looks amazing. <3
I agree, I'd love the Masterminds sisters as Betsy's foes. Also Psylocke vs. Spiral is long overdue. Spiral should be Psylocke's arch-nemesis.

[Selene]

Outside the X-Universe,I'd like to see Betsy and Moonstone or Songbird as foes.

[CmX]

This looks amazing. <3
I agree, I'd love the Masterminds sisters as Betsy's foes. Also Psylocke vs. Spiral is long overdue. Spiral should be Psylocke's arch-nemesis.

I know! Too bad every time she fights her she loses. :'( Well the last few times anyway.

I remember years ago when Mojo and Spiral were slated to appear in Uncanny after Psylocke's resurrection I was soooo excited cause I thought it would an awesome fight between them or some sort of acknowledgment, but CC didn't do anything with it. Ugh. Over it.

[psycwave]

I would like to see Betsy and Moonstone or Songbird team-up!!
*swoons*

[slacker]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vmizTggXAos/SwLwlbHrTFI/AAAAAAAABTg/_7qoHpKVLgg/s1600/Psylocke02-FirstLook03.png

Jeez, the art is just getting better and better in her solo. Preview #2 on like a butterfly.

<3 <3 <3

[jeansbff]

Yeah im happy w the art in number 2 but i agree w others when they see logan on number 4s cover. Hes always in everything and hes crashing psylockes party!

[.LuckyStar.]

I know! Too bad every time she fights her she loses. :'( Well the last few times anyway.

I remember years ago when Mojo and Spiral were slated to appear in Uncanny after Psylocke's resurrection I was soooo excited cause I thought it would an awesome fight between them or some sort of acknowledgment, but CC didn't do anything with it. Ugh. Over it.

LOL. That was total WTF. "Where are your bionic eyes, Psylocke?????" CC trying to retcon Revanche away. LOL.

I'm not sure if I'd root for Psylocke or Spiral. Spiral is so crazy-sexy-cool!

[Shafcrawler]

Oh man! Can't wait for issue 2 and the variant to issue 1! Loving the butterfly effect (and the art in general)! Tolibao's work on Psylocke is such an improvement over his Ultimate X-Men stuff. Really, really loving the difficult angles he's been trying to capture his images from, as well.

[psycwave]

Psylocke V Spiral round 3 sounds wonderful. It should be it's own storyarc(or possibly a 3 issue mini) like the "Get Mystique" arc in Wolverine that Aaron wrote. Now that I think about it Aaron NEEDS to write a "Get Spiral".

[PsylockeSpears]

ooh Logan is gonna be pissed that Betts owned Yukio.that headbutt <3
The art is amazing in this issue,it looks epic,and fluid.beautiful.

Oh a Spiral showdown is most definatly needed,she needs her ass handed to her,so hopefully this miniseries will prove a market for it

Oh and my betsy pair up would be a back from the dead Cypher :biggrin:

[Drey]

Oh man! Can't wait for issue 2 and the variant to issue 1! Loving the butterfly effect (and the art in general)! Tolibao's work on Psylocke is such an improvement over his Ultimate X-Men stuff. Really, really loving the difficult angles he's been trying to capture his images from, as well.

I completely agree that his work is much better than it was in Ultimate X-men. He has a very kinetic style too, similar to Diogenes Neves' art--especially his X-men: World's Apart art.

I love the espionage tactics of Betsy sneaking around and disabling her opponents one by one. This reminds me of Betsy circa Uncanny X-men #260s. Yost has definately been good to us so far, bringing back the butterfly, the mind control, and just having Betsy utilize her telepathic skills beyond the psychic knife over and over. He's even thrown in some TK, like the force blast last issue and it looks like Psylocke is enhancing the strength of her kicks and punches in some of the panels in the previews for Psylocke #2.

[CmX]

I completely agree that his work is much better than it was in Ultimate X-men. He has a very kinetic style too, similar to Diogenes Neves' art--especially his X-men: World's Apart art.

I love the espionage tactics of Betsy sneaking around and disabling her opponents one by one. This reminds me of Betsy circa Uncanny X-men #260s. Yost has definately been good to us so far, bringing back the butterfly, the mind control, and just having Betsy utilize her telepathic skills beyond the psychic knife over and over. He's even thrown in some TK, like the force blast last issue and it looks like Psylocke is enhancing the strength of her kicks and punches in some of the panels in the previews for Psylocke #2.

Yeah I like that she is using her psyknife in one of those panels to quietly remove one of the body guards. More stealth like.

That's the way I'd like to see the knife used more often rather than her just swinging it around and missing in a battle.

[jeansbff]

Psylocke to Yukio: Your going down bitch! Finish her off for good psylocke and you ll be doing logan a favour.

[eurazn]

Psylocke to Yukio: Your going down bitch! Finish her off for good psylocke and you ll be doing logan a favour.

Storm will be most displeased. He doesn't like it when others hurt those closest to him. :evilsmile:

[psycwave]

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[CmX]

Davis' art during Reload was so good I loved it! Too bad it was cut short. His Psylocke was so cute, he did a great job in the List one-shot as well, plus he was the first to draw the butterfly again in years!

[Drey]

Yeah I like that she is using her psyknife in one of those panels to quietly remove one of the body guards. More stealth like.

That's the way I'd like to see the knife used more often rather than her just swinging it around and missing in a battle.

Yeah, I had never been more upset than when Fraction had Psylocke miss over and over with her psi-knife. Or maybe it was Land's fault? It was probably both their faults.

What's being shown right now in this Psylocke mini will definately make people remember what she's truly made of in fighting skill as well as using her telepathy in various ways. Her fight with Yukio looks glorious, especially that shot of her dodging all of those knives.

This is a good reintroduction to the character.

Edit: Nice psycwave. I don't know if anyone's noticed, but sometimes Psylocke's TK has a ring-like signature, like in that picture. Another time was in New Excalibur when she used her TK to bust thru Shadow X Iceman's ice. Then in Psylocke #1 her TK blast came with a multi-ring like outburst. I dunno, I just think it's nice. :tongue:

[CmX]

Yeah, I had never been more upset than when Fraction had Psylocke miss over and over with her psi-knife. Or maybe it was Land's fault? It was probably both their faults.

What's being shown right now in this Psylocke mini will definately make people remember what she's truly made of in fighting skill as well as using her telepathy in various ways. Her fight with Yukio looks glorious, especially that shot of her dodging all of those knives.

This is a good reintroduction to the character.

I don't think Fraction writes the fight scenes in Uncanny very well I think he leaves a lot of it up to the artist. He probably wrote, "Psylocke and Emma charge at one another" or something equally lame and that's what Land produced. Psylocke (miserably) missing Emma.

[eurazn]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/e4d0f350.jpg

Obviously, Psylocke had a precognition of what Bishop would become. She didn't understand her rage at the time, thereby erroneously attributing it to his failure to disclose their meeting in the plane of the afterlife, but all is clear in retrospect now.

[psycwave]

Obviously, Psylocke had a precognition of what Bishop would become. She didn't understand her rage at the time, thereby erroneously attributing it to his failure to disclose their meeting in the plane of the afterlife, but all is clear in retrospect now.

<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

[jeansbff]

I love the tk effect there! Alan Davis is a very good artist...

[Shafcrawler]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/e4d0f350.jpg

I just loved this entire sequence!

...and then Claremont had to ruin it by introducing them weird dino-things. Still, I think Psylocke was very well written in this era up until the Exiles mishap.

And Psylocke missing everyone with her Psychic knife during Sisterhood was nothing short of pathetic.

[psycwave]

I just loved this entire sequence!

...and then Claremont had to ruin it by introducing them weird dino-things. Still, I think Psylocke was very well written in this era up until the Exiles mishap.

And Psylocke missing everyone with her Psychic knife during Sisterhood was nothing short of pathetic.

Yes it was a sad time when she was missing everyone. And then when she did finally hit someone it didn't even do anything..

[CmX]

Yes it was a sad time when she was missing everyone. And then when she did finally hit someone it didn't even do anything..

In all fairness it wasn't Psylocke, it was the "evil murder spirit" that was actually the one missing.

When it hit Dazzler it was more of a punch rather than a direct "stab" to the head. I think that's why the effect wasn't full.

[psycwave]

This talk makes me want to bring back my "Psylocke stabs herself in the head" avatar.

[Ryan W]

I just saw the preview pages for #2.

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

SO STOKED FOR THIS!

It's nice to see the ass-kicking Betsy I first fell in love with all those years ago.

[Tazirai]

Obviously, Psylocke had a precognition of what Bishop would become. She didn't understand her rage at the time, thereby erroneously attributing it to his failure to disclose their meeting in the plane of the afterlife, but all is clear in retrospect now.

lol best answer ever.

[Havok83]

In all fairness it wasn't Psylocke, it was the "evil murder spirit" that was actually the one missing.

When it hit Dazzler it was more of a punch rather than a direct "stab" to the head. I think that's why the effect wasn't full.
visually you wouldnt know bc that was about the biggest psy-blade attack Ive seen her do

[jeansbff]

I love Dazzler. Shes always been one of the most powerful x-women and i had to lol after she blew off half of betsys face and before this she was saying what agood friendship they had. Yeah alison your a fantastic friend! Yeah the knife hit w ali looked like a bad psi blast, didn t even phase her...

[Daniel Mengsk]

ooh Logan is gonna be pissed that Betts owned Yukio.that headbutt <3

To be fair, although Yukio is a pretty darn good martial artist, Psylocke's skills at the moment are almost through the roof.

Yeah, I had never been more upset than when Fraction had Psylocke miss over and over with her psi-knife. Or maybe it was Land's fault? It was probably both their faults.

Heh, quote of the week. ;p

[jeansbff]

I love the way that yukios weapons of choice are throwing knives. And yes she can throw a good punch can t she.

[Tazirai]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/044.jpg

[psycwave]

Someone translate it for me.

[Havok83]

Anybody else want to see her join S.W.OR.D.? Not necesarily the series, but the organization. I have an idea that they can approach her and make her one of their solo agents, going on undercover missions that arent suited for a big group. I know that premise is similar to Spider-woman but it could work with Betsy too. She'd make a good agent bc it make use of her experience and skills she developed while working for S.T.R.I.K.E. It could be a good story for a future mini and/or ongoing. If not she could also appear in the S.W.O.R.D. series. It would definently expose her to more of the Marvel Universe outside of the X-men, most likely would get her a new secondary costume and show that she's not just a ninja with a nice ass

[CmX]

Anybody else want to see her join S.W.OR.D.? Not necesarily the series, but the organization. I have an idea that they can approach her and make her one of their solo agents, going on undercover missions that arent suited for a big group. I know that premise is similar to Spider-woman but it could work with Betsy too. She'd make a good agent bc it make use of her experience and skills she developed while working for S.T.R.I.K.E. It could be a good story for a future mini and/or ongoing. If not she could also appear in the S.W.O.R.D. series. It would definently expose her to more of the Marvel Universe outside of the X-men, most likely would get her a new secondary costume and show that she's not just a ninja with a nice ass

Maybe this can be the premise of her second mini. :D

Did anyone write in to next week's X-Position? Fraction will be hosting.

Here is the email...... I asked about Psylocke's future with the Uncanny team. Didn't want to be redundant and ask about her British body.. or her telepathy..

george@comicbookresources.com

X-Position is necessary in the subject line to be considered/read.

[Havok83]

Maybe this can be the premise of her second mini. :D



Hey if Kitty of all people can get a Kitty Pryde: Agent of SHIELD mini, Betsy most certainly deserves a Psylocke: Agent of S.W.O.R.D. one...lol

[Daniel Mengsk]

Here is the email...... I asked about Psylocke's future with the Uncanny team. Didn't want to be redundant and ask about her British body.. or her telepathy..


...or the thongkini.... ;)

Yes, fresh and unanswered questions this week people....which means that we shouldn't waste them on asking about future events involving Betsy - Fraction (or any X-writer for that matter) will not be answering them with anything more than a "wait and see"-answer.

I think that I know what I'll be asking this week; although I really want to know the current status of her powers/immunities, I will probably not be asking that.


george@comicbookresources.com

X-Position is necessary in the subject line to be considered/read.

Thanks CmX.

[psycwave]

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[peopleofpaper]

that panel is so brutal. i remember thinking she was a goner. but joe mad and that issue is the reason i became a psylocke fan. i love the way she looks. her hair color is perfect. i don't think anyone's ever drawn asian betsy that perfectly even though i know most people prefer Jim Lee. he made the action so real and believable.

[Havok83]

I mentioned in another thread that that was the msot gruesome and violent attack on any X-man. She was virutally slaughtered. This is the main reason why I was absolutely digusted when I heard that CC had her fall for some AR version of Sabretooth. That was just wrong on so many levels and no writer should have ever went there

[psycwave]

I like how she made him bleed out the eye.

[alf_to_the_rescue]

I mentioned in another thread that that was the msot gruesome and violent attack on any X-man. She was virutally slaughtered. This is the main reason why I was absolutely digusted when I heard that CC had her fall for some AR version of Sabretooth. That was just wrong on so many levels and no writer should have ever went there

Damn right, but Claremont will force anyone together to assert his authority. Great battle. Tragic ending. I love that issue.

[CmX]

Betsy was gorgeous in those pages! Although she was getting ripped to shreds. Hated that issue!

[eurazn]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/044.jpg

Someone translate it for me.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/psylockevsgenoshans.jpg

Psylocke REALLY should be allowed to kill more often. She could have killed Bishop before he tried to kill Hope and she could have killed these Genoshan magistrates before the whole X-Tinction Agenda. :evilsmile:

[Havok83]

well Betsy wasnt around in Messiah Complex to stop Bishop. He definetly needs to die but I dont want Betsy to do him in. Theres already a long list in front of her

[eurazn]

well Betsy wasnt around in Messiah Complex to stop Bishop. He definetly needs to die but I dont want Betsy to do him in. Theres already a long list in front of her

See below. She knew what would happen before Messiah Complex even came around! :wink:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/e4d0f350.jpg

Obviously, Psylocke had a precognition of what Bishop would become. She didn't understand her rage at the time, thereby erroneously attributing it to his failure to disclose their meeting in the plane of the afterlife, but all is clear in retrospect now.

The lady is multi-talented. It shouldn't take her but a thought to dispose of him and then continue on to Matsu'o.

[Drey]

To be fair, although Yukio is a pretty darn good martial artist, Psylocke's skills at the moment are almost through the roof.

Hehe, quite true. She's got at least 100 years of training under her belt thanks to alternate Ogun and that weird time room they were in.

Heh, quote of the week. ;p

Thank you, thank you. :smile:

I think that I know what I'll be asking this week; although I really want to know the current status of her powers/immunities, I will probably not be asking that.

I'm sure they've ditched the immunities, since Maddie and the Sisterhood were able to get past those impenetrable psi-shields. I don't mind because it really wouldn't be all that fair for Psylocke to have TP, TK, and psychic/physical immunity.

One thing I do appreciate about Fraction's handling of Psylocke after the dreadful representation of her in Sisterhood, is that he has had her use her powers in different ways, like amplifying Bobby's abilities and casting telepathic illusions. I also appreciate that he had her say that she wasn't quite used to her new powerset as of yet--so she's basically just learning by trial and error

I mentioned in another thread that that was the msot gruesome and violent attack on any X-man. She was virutally slaughtered. This is the main reason why I was absolutely digusted when I heard that CC had her fall for some AR version of Sabretooth. That was just wrong on so many levels and no writer should have ever went there

I agree. CC had her train against danger room holograms of Sabretooth when Revolution first started for some revenge. After she was resurrected she still used his hologram to kick his ass. She finally got to face a real version (albeit alternate version) and kicked his ass easily, but then she started feeling something for him? Ew. But then again in one alternate reality Betsy and Slaymaster were a couple...tho I wonder if CC knew they were gonna make Betsy a TP/TK psychic since that version of Psylocke was the first that ever displayed both powers...

As for Joe Mad, LOVE him!

[slacker]

Seriously, I don't think anyone would be disappointed if Betts was the reputed resident murderer of the X-Men. At least I wouldn't be lol, since I know there's a lot more too her than that (which maybe why that avenue isn't ventured into further, to be more accepted as a heroine on a first impression basis, to which I say: Blaaaargh).

And those Psylocke vs. Sabretooth panels make me sad =( Stupid useless biyatch in the yellow vest.

[eurazn]

Seriously, I don't think anyone would be disappointed if Betts was the reputed resident murderer of the X-Men. At least I wouldn't be lol, since I know there's a lot more too her than that (which maybe why that avenue isn't ventured into further, to be more accepted as a heroine on a first impression basis, to which I say: Blaaaargh).

And those Psylocke vs. Sabretooth panels make me sad =( Stupid useless biyatch in the yellow vest.

The bold is for the emphasis of TRUTH.

I always wondered, though, why Psylocke didn't try telepathically assaulting him from behind the safety of the observation room first, though.

[SJNeal]

I always wondered, though, why Psylocke didn't try telepathically assaulting him from behind the safety of the observation room first, though.

'Cuz she's an "action junkie"! :tongue:

[Drey]

The bold is for the emphasis of TRUTH.

I always wondered, though, why Psylocke didn't try telepathically assaulting him from behind the safety of the observation room first, though.

Because Scott Lobdell used this fight as a plot device to get Betsy injured so that he could introduce the whole Crimson Dawn storyline, which I loved--but it was unnecessary when you look at the grand scheme of things.

[Havok83]

Seriously, I don't think anyone would be disappointed if Betts was the reputed resident murderer of the X-Men. At least I wouldn't be lol, since I know there's a lot more too her than that (which maybe why that avenue isn't ventured into further, to be more accepted as a heroine on a first impression basis, to which I say: Blaaaargh).

And those Psylocke vs. Sabretooth panels make me sad =( Stupid useless biyatch in the yellow vest.
and this was the twit right after Betsy's assault. I HATED how she just picked herself up and moved on with her life, not really feeling guilty or or feeling remorseful after she left Betsy's near dead body. She got a new haircut, a new codename and she was all smiles

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7287/meltdowng.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/meltdowng.jpg/)

[SJNeal]

Because Scott Lobdell used this fight as a plot device to get Betsy injured so that he could introduce the whole Crimson Dawn storyline, which I loved--but it was unnecessary when you look at the grand scheme of things.

How so? Do you mean unnecessary in that it's now irrelevant, or that it was a dangling plot thread that never really went anywhere...? I ask because that was one of my favorite Psylocke eras, and thought it was executed pretty well up until Kelly abruptly shunted Betsy off to limbo in "Psi-War".

Btw, sorry to crash your guys convo. The scans of Uncanny #328 just got me all excited/nostalgic! :redface:

[peopleofpaper]

Because Scott Lobdell used this fight as a plot device to get Betsy injured so that he could introduce the whole Crimson Dawn storyline, which I loved--but it was unnecessary when you look at the grand scheme of things.

yeah i feel like her entire x-career was full of unnecessary power ups because people didn't know what to do with another telepath. 'hmm make her asian! make her a ninja. crimson dawn with a cool face tattoo! shadow powers! tk!'

and this was the twit right after Betsy's assault. I HATED how she just picked herself up and moved on with her life, not really feeling guilty or or feeling remorseful after she left Betsy's near dead body. She got a new haircut, a new codename and she was all smiles

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7287/meltdowng.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/meltdowng.jpg/)

i always hated her. and lol at all of those name switches. jeeze. what was the point of all those names? i used to think she and dazzler were the same person when i started reading and didn't pay much attention haha.

[Havok83]

How so? Do you mean unnecessary in that it's now irrelevant, or that it was a dangling plot thread that never really went anywhere...? I ask because that was one of my favorite Psylocke eras, and thought it was executed pretty well up until Kelly abruptly shunted Betsy off to limbo in "Psi-War".

Btw, sorry to crash your guys convo. The scans of Uncanny #328 just got me all excited/nostalgic! :redface:

I wouldnt blame Kelly for banishing Betsy to limbo. Marvel pretty much screwed up with Kelly and Seagle's plans and forced them to get rid of all the characters they were using except 4, (Storm, Wolverine, Marrow and Rogue) so they could make room from the reurning Excalibur ones. Marvel then made the 2 core books, 1 book released twice a month, featuring the same set of characters. If you remember, Kelly got fed up with Marvel restricting his creative freedom and left soon after. Forcing Kelly/Seagle off the books was when they went downhill and it took years for them to recover

[psycwave]

I wasn't expecting all this Tabby hate. What a backlash. I actually didn't mind her whole not caring thing. It was clearly a front. She was feeling terrible and never wanted to be taken advantage of again. She wanted to be a whole new person, someone stronger and more in control. That's just my opinion though. I still would have liked to have them interact after that though.

I will post more Betsy fights in a bit. I'm in a Betsy V. the world mood as of late.

[SJNeal]

I wouldnt blame Kelly for banishing Betsy to limbo. Marvel pretty much screwed up with Kelly and Seagle's plans and forced them to get rid of all the characters they were using except 4, (Storm, Wolverine, Marrow and Rogue) so they could make room from the reurning Excalibur ones. Marvel then made the 2 core books, 1 book released twice a month, featuring the same set of characters. If you remember, Kelly got fed up with Marvel restricting his creative freedom and left soon after. Forcing Kelly/Seagle off the books was when they went downhill and it took years for them to recover

While I haven't reread those issues in quite a while, I do remember disliking Alan Davis "bi-weekly" run for the most part. But didn't Joe Kelly also say that Betsy wasn't exactly a favorite of his...? Or am I taking fanboy gossip as gospel? :confused:

[psycwave]

I wouldnt blame Kelly for banishing Betsy to limbo. Marvel pretty much screwed up with Kelly and Seagle's plans and forced them to get rid of all the characters they were using except 4, (Storm, Wolverine, Marrow and Rogue) so they could make room from the reurning Excalibur ones. Marvel then made the 2 core books, 1 book released twice a month, featuring the same set of characters. If you remember, Kelly got fed up with Marvel restricting his creative freedom and left soon after. Forcing Kelly/Seagle off the books was when they went downhill and it took years for them to recover

But it was Kelly. He hated Betsy and had originally intended to kill her off. I'm glad editorial stopped him and made him sideline her.

[Drey]

How so? Do you mean unnecessary in that it's now irrelevant, or that it was a dangling plot thread that never really went anywhere...? I ask because that was one of my favorite Psylocke eras, and thought it was executed pretty well up until Kelly abruptly shunted Betsy off to limbo in "Psi-War".

I say that because it led to an unnecessary power change for Psylocke. I first knew Psylocke as the telepathic shadow porter, but I went back and collected the entire Uncanny run from 94-present and read her time as an X-man in chronological order and realized that the Crimson Dawn was an unnecessary change. I felt that she should've been left the way she was after the original body transformation storyline--with her being in her same body, getting what she desired, but just changed thru magic. I love Revanche but she was unnecessary too.

Btw, sorry to crash your guys convo. The scans of Uncanny #328 just got me all excited/nostalgic! :redface:

No worries! :smile:

And psycwave no worries, I love Tabitha! <3

[CmX]

But it was Kelly. He hated Betsy and had originally intended to kill her off. I'm glad editorial stopped him and made him sideline her.

I think if Kelly had killed her off back then, then Claremont would have resurrected her during Revolution or whenever he returned fully British. :)

[SJNeal]

I say that because it led to an unnecessary power change for Psylocke. I first knew Psylocke as the telepathic shadow porter, but I went back and collected the entire Uncanny run from 94-present and read her time as an X-man in chronological order and realized that the Crimson Dawn was an unnecessary change. I felt that she should've been left the way she was after the original body transformation storyline--with her being in her same body, getting what she desired, but just changed thru magic. I love Revanche but she was unnecessary too.


Ah. Understood.

My first X-issues were Uncanny #281 and X-Men #1, and it wasn't until the last few years actually (:redface: ) that I bothered to read any "classic" Psylocke stories. The farthest back I'd gone was X-Tinction Agenda, which of course already had ninja Betsy.

Revanche is grossly underappreciated, and yes, probably unnecessary. But then again, so many things in comics are. That's half the fun. :wink:

[Havok83]

But it was Kelly. He hated Betsy and had originally intended to kill her off. I'm glad editorial stopped him and made him sideline her.
He did? Thats a shocker bc he wrote IMO, the best Psylocke story Ive read. She rocked all shades of awesomeness in Psi-War.

[psycwave]

He did? Thats a shocker bc he wrote IMO, the best Psylocke story Ive read. She rocked all shades of awesomeness in Psi-War.

Yeah thats what makes it so crazy. But he said he didn't like her and then when you reread the Psi-War arc after that you can totally tell he was talking through the Shadow King, they way he kept taking digs at Betts. I think he was gonna kill off Storm too. Jarrod has more of the details on Kelly's run, I just know the Psylocke stuff

[eurazn]

i always hated . and lol at all of those name switches. jeeze. what was the point of all those names? [B]i used to think she and dazzler were the same person when i started reading and didn't pay much attention haha.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/disgusted-dazzler.jpg

[Daniel Mengsk]

Hehe, quite true. She's got at least 100 years of training under her belt thanks to alternate Ogun and that weird time room they were in.


I think that Yost is acknowledging to the existence of that storyline withouth actually acknowledging its existence officially.


I'm sure they've ditched the immunities, since Maddie and the Sisterhood were able to get past those impenetrable psi-shields. I don't mind because it really wouldn't be all that fair for Psylocke to have TP, TK, and psychic/physical immunity.


I just want to have it all cleared up; psi-levels, body immunity intact, mind immunity gone etc. I just want to have an official word on that.....and the hopes that her bio at Marvel will be updated soon (yes, I know that it isn't realiable - still.... :wink: ).


One thing I do appreciate about Fraction's handling of Psylocke after the dreadful representation of her in Sisterhood, is that he has had her use her powers in different ways, like amplifying Bobby's abilities and casting telepathic illusions.


You mean when she made him....ahem....?....Yeah....


... but then she started feeling something for him? Ew.

At least she got to have a "thing" with Sage too. ;p


But then again in one alternate reality Betsy and Slaymaster were a couple...tho I wonder if CC knew they were gonna make Betsy a TP/TK psychic since that version of Psylocke was the first that ever displayed both powers...


I think that he knew about those plans; remember in SotB when he had an alternate version of Betsy with both TP and TK?

Btw Justin - I thought that you liked the CD...didn't you? (confused now)

[psycwave]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/PsylockevsSpiral-NMutantAnn2-1.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/PsylockevsSpiral-NMutantAnn2-2.jpg

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[Drey]

LOL Giles. Oh and I do like the Crimson Dawn as well as Crimson Dawn Psylocke (hated how big the tattoo got tho), but I can't deny that it was an unnecessary change done to Psylocke. I grew to love TK Betsy, but that was unnecessary too.

[Tazirai]

Maybe this can be the premise of her second mini. :D

Did anyone write in to next week's X-Position? Fraction will be hosting.

Here is the email...... I asked about Psylocke's future with the Uncanny team. Didn't want to be redundant and ask about her British body.. or her telepathy..

george@comicbookresources.com

X-Position is necessary in the subject line to be considered/read.

Here's what I asked.

Hey guys just a quick question. What will ultimately happen to Psylockes physical changes? Will she remain strictly asian, or will you amalgamate her into a more eurasian form, as a way to appeal to both Fans of her British and asian natures.
Also When will she be getting an updated costume? I mean EVERY X-man and woman has gotten one but her, isn't it time for the thongkini to go?

[Tazirai]

God I hate Kuberts art. EVERYBODY was always looking like they were yelling or mad or something. Revanche woulda looked so much better under Silvestri.

[jarrod]

God I hate Kuberts art. EVERYBODY was always looking like they were yelling or mad or something. Revanche woulda looked so much better under Silvestri.
Ugh so true. His proportions also make my eyes hurt.

[Tazirai]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/disgusted-dazzler.jpg

LMAO. I stilllike Boom Boom. So no worries, I dig them both.

[Havok83]

God I hate Kuberts art. EVERYBODY was always looking like they were yelling or mad or something. Revanche woulda looked so much better under Silvestri.

I always preferred Adam Kubert's art over Andy

[psycwave]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/ad-12.jpg
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http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/aaa-5.jpg

[Aguja]

So many of these scans belong in the bad ass thread.

[Henry T.]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/PsylockevsSpiral-NMutantAnn2-1.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/PsylockevsSpiral-NMutantAnn2-2.jpg


Psylocke looks Phoenixy in those pages.

[psycwave]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/ac-7.jpg

[PsylockeSpears]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/ac-7.jpg

Jeez,i remember being so sad as a kid when Betts was in that bed.

[coveredinbees]

Why did the doctor leave her exposed?

[PsylockeSpears]

Why did the doctor leave her exposed?

Oh yeah and i forgot to mention BOOBS!

[psycwave]

Why did the doctor leave her exposed?

That's what I thought when i first read the issue.

[Havok83]

Why did the doctor leave her exposed?
haha I never even noticed. Probably bc they couldnt expose her rear?

[zaionay]

The bold is for the emphasis of TRUTH.

I always wondered, though, why Psylocke didn't try telepathically assaulting him from behind the safety of the observation room first, though.


from what i remember,creed was immune to ALL telepathic assault around that time. if psylockes telepathic blade couldn't do the trick which is apparently the sum totality of her telepathic abilities then a mind blast wouldn't work either.

[Havok83]

from what i remember,creed was immune to ALL telepathic assault around that time. if psylockes telepathic blade couldn't do the trick which is apparently the sum totality of her telepathic abilities then a mind blast wouldn't work either.
Psylocke ddint know that. I think what she is getting at is why did Betsy even engage him in a phsyical battle? It wouldt have been easier to just shut him down mentally as soon as she saw the situation between him and Tabitha getting heated. Of course after doing so, she would realize that it didnt work. That also would have given her a chance to use her TP to call for some backup

[Tazirai]

from what i remember,creed was immune to ALL telepathic assault around that time. if psylockes telepathic blade couldn't do the trick which is apparently the sum totality of her telepathic abilities then a mind blast wouldn't work either.

A Psi bolt woulda failed, but her Psycho blast affects mental and physical things. He woulda felt that at the least.

Psylockes Second battle with sabretooth.
went MUCH better than her third.. Action Junkie mode.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/Untitled-3-1.jpg

First use of Psychoblast on Sabretooth, but it's not at full strength.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/clp2.jpg

Failure of Psibolts.. Only affects Sabrestooths mind, which was getting a "HIGH" from being zapped. Remember Birdy?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/clp3-1.jpg

[Tazirai]

Psycho blast in action
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/lastscan2.jpg

Vs jugernaut.. It hurt him even through his Telepathically immune helmet.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/clp9.jpg

[Daniel Mengsk]

LOL Giles. Oh and I do like the Crimson Dawn as well as Crimson Dawn Psylocke (hated how big the tattoo got tho), but I can't deny that it was an unnecessary change done to Psylocke. I grew to love TK Betsy, but that was unnecessary too.

The CD was okay, and the shadow teleportation was great (yes, I liked it, don't judge :wink: ), but the tranformation made Betsy turn into this boring ice-queen with the emotional range of a Borg. And Kuragari was the lamest piece of crap for a villain up until Vargas came along.

God I hate Kuberts art. EVERYBODY was always looking like they were yelling or mad or something. Revanche woulda looked so much better under Silvestri.

LOL Yeah, her boobs, legs and arms are all over the place when Kubert draws.

psycwave, I love the scans of Betsy fighting the Brood/GR hybrid, it shows what a badassed warrior that Betsy is, most people would die on the spot in terror if they ever saw this (and yes, I am most people). Do you have a scan of her confrontation with Death's Head II?

[zaionay]

I say that because it led to an unnecessary power change for Psylocke. I first knew Psylocke as the telepathic shadow porter, but I went back and collected the entire Uncanny run from 94-present and read her time as an X-man in chronological order and realized that the Crimson Dawn was an unnecessary change. I felt that she should've been left the way she was after the original body transformation storyline--with her being in her same body, getting what she desired, but just changed thru magic. I love Revanche but she was unnecessary too. ! <3

but when you think about it, alot of changes that have happened to characters are unneccessary to begin with. rogue being depowered then repowered with fire abilities? moonstar becoming a valkerie then her numerous power changes then being depowered then temporarily repowered? husk changing her entire form when she husked only later on being retconned to just changing her skin and the the list goes on. it's not only psylocke who has had fluctuating powers or transformations done to her character. psylockes transformations seem to be the most dramatic because it seemed that every time psylocke was reintroduce after a long limbo period she would return with some poorly explained transformation.

[eurazn]

from what i remember,creed was immune to ALL telepathic assault around that time. if psylockes telepathic blade couldn't do the trick which is apparently the sum totality of her telepathic abilities then a mind blast wouldn't work either.

Psylocke ddint know that. I think what she is getting at is why did Betsy even engage him in a phsyical battle? It wouldt have been easier to just shut him down mentally as soon as she saw the situation between him and Tabitha getting heated. Of course after doing so, she would realize that it didnt work. That also would have given her a chance to use her TP to call for some backup

Yes, Havok stated what my intent was with my previous statement. Actually, the easiest solution (which would still be in line with Psylocke's character/history) would have been to seize control of Boomer's mind and force her to leave the cell as soon as Betsy mentally sensed what Tabatha was about to do.

[.LuckyStar.]

There's been a lot of horrific images in X-Force, but Harvey Tolibao may have beat them all in Psylocke 3. So freaking disturbing.
http://twitter.com/yost

!!!

[psycwave]

http://twitter.com/yost

!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PsylockeSpears]

http://twitter.com/yost

!!!


Oooh im cited now

[slacker]

Ooooo. Maybe Psylocke and Jin have a reeeaally dirty/brutal fight. Ending badly for Jin. Like, baaadly.

[Drey]

Maybe Psylocke's gonna go all "scanners" again like she did with Kaptain Briton? :evilsmile:

[scouse mouse]

http://twitter.com/yost
There will be no Psylocke/Elektra face off in the mini:frown: . I would have liked to see these two face off.

[Havok83]

classic Larocca Psylocke

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4262/psylockecrimson.png (http://img204.imageshack.us/i/psylockecrimson.png/)

[Psychic Illusion]

My fav x-artist imo still draws the fiercest psylocke I have ever seen. I miss larocca. He needs to come back.

[Seccruz]

My fav x-artist imo still draws the fiercest psylocke I have ever seen. I miss larocca. He needs to come back.

His art at the beggining of XXM was sooo cool...right now his art really doesn't work for me

[Psychic Illusion]

His art at the beggining of XXM was sooo cool...right now his art really doesn't work for me

It seems most artists that draws x-men are like that. Its like they blow up and then start slacking. Marc silvestri, jim lee, and joe mad are some to name a few. Alan davis is the only one who can still wow me just by looking at his art.

[zaionay]

Psylocke ddint know that. I think what she is getting at is why did Betsy even engage him in a phsyical battle? It wouldt have been easier to just shut him down mentally as soon as she saw the situation between him and Tabitha getting heated. Of course after doing so, she would realize that it didnt work. That also would have given her a chance to use her TP to call for some backup



how do we know betsy didn't try that? she might have tried to telepathicly sway him and noticed it didn't work and then decided that her highly charged psychic knife would be the only way to subdue him?around that time it had become quite apparent that creed was immune to all telepathic mind asssault since logan popped him with the claws. betsy may have tried other forms of telepathic persuasion noticed it didn't work and went for the more physical/ lethal approach. it makes sense and i choose to believe thats how it went down...instead of psylocke feeling over confident about her fighting skills once again and getting her ass handed to her.

A Psi bolt woulda failed, but her Psycho blast affects mental and physical things. He woulda felt that at the least.

Psylockes Second battle with sabretooth.
went MUCH better than her third.. Action Junkie mode.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/Untitled-3-1.jpg

First use of Psychoblast on Sabretooth, but it's not at full strength.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/clp2.jpg

Failure of Psibolts.. Only affects Sabrestooths mind, which was getting a "HIGH" from being zapped. Remember Birdy?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/clp3-1.jpg


this was all before sabertooth got the brain surgery from logan.

[jeansbff]

It seems most artists that draws x-men are like that. Its like they blow up and then start slacking. Marc silvestri, jim lee, and joe mad are some to name a few. Alan davis is the only one who can still wow me just by looking at his art.

To me alan davises artwork can be quite amateurish at times...

[Havok83]

how do we know betsy didn't try that? she might have tried to telepathicly sway him and noticed it didn't work and then decided that her highly charged psychic knife would be the only way to subdue him?around that time it had become quite apparent that creed was immune to all telepathic mind asssault since logan popped him with the claws. betsy may have tried other forms of telepathic persuasion noticed it didn't work and went for the more physical/ lethal approach. it makes sense and i choose to believe thats how it went down...instead of psylocke feeling over confident about her fighting skills once again and getting her ass handed to her.
.

Bc we didnt see her do that. Those scenes were pretty clear. She only used her telepathically to communicate with Boomer. Even if she did use it on Creed and noticed it didnt work, it would have been smarter at that point to use her TP to call for backup or stop Boomer from using her bombs bc really thats what freed Sabretooth to maul her

[PsylockeIsLegend316]

Now this is a thread I can get behind!. Psylocke has always been my favorite X-Men of either gender and IMHO has always been been poorly treated for years.....Elisabeth Braddock represents everything an X-Man should and is pound for pound one of the toughest and most skilled of all the X-Men of any generation...I would personally love to see her be named leader of an X-branch [I]and [I] get her own solo title. If there was any woman on the team that could Betsy could!



Oh and am I the only one that wants her to get back together with Warren?:wink:

[jeansbff]

Hey there PL316! Welcome to the boards. Thumbs up to the psylocke solo title! If her mini is successful enough marvel should seriously consider it. Anyone want to see a jean grey mini next year? Shes my fav character and i would love if she got her own solo title too.

[CmX]

Now this is a thread I can get behind!. Psylocke has always been my favorite X-Men of either gender and IMHO has always been been poorly treated for years.....Elisabeth Braddock represents everything an X-Man should and is pound for pound one of the toughest and most skilled of all the X-Men of any generation...I would personally love to see her be named leader of an X-branch [I]and [I] get her own solo title. If there was any woman on the team that could Betsy could!



Oh and am I the only one that wants her to get back together with Warren?:wink:

Welcome! Post more. :)

I'm happy to see all these new people joining the forum for their Psylocke love!

I too am a fan of Psylocke and Warren as a pair.

[jeansbff]

Psylocke and Warren are history, Psylocke and Cypher are now!

[Aguja]

Dough looked pretty hot upon is resurrection so I could get behind this. Plus he's legal now. And I could see Betsy being a cougar.

[CmX]

Psylocke and Warren are history, Psylocke and Cypher are now!

Not completely. Apparently Warren still has a thing for Betts. She looks good so we can't blame him entirely.

[CmX]

His art at the beggining of XXM was sooo cool...right now his art really doesn't work for me

Yeah I agree. I haven't enjoyed his art in a very very long time. I think it was around the time he was drawing Milligan's X-Men during that Apocalypse arc. Larroca debuted his new "style" which was uber realistic and everyone just looked weird and leathery.

His art hasn't recovered since. And I am not a fan anymore which is a shame.

[jeansbff]

Do you know who elses artwork i don t like anymore... terry dodson. He should be arrested for the way he draws women!

[Drey]

Do you know who elses artwork i don t like anymore... terry dodson. He should be arrested for the way he draws women!

Terry's still better than Greg Land and he can create decent fight scenes. I love Terry's work, though sometimes his women can look a bit masculine because he tends to draw them with strong jawlines at times. Sometimes the eyebrows are a bit too high also, like there's one picture of Jean out there in her Phoenix costume somewhere that reminds me of a drag queen lol.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Do you know who elses artwork i don t like anymore... terry dodson. He should be arrested for the way he draws women!

His women are worse than Land's, frankly. Unforgiveable.

I know everyone rails on and on about Land (and quite justifiably), but Dodson is just as complicit in the shoddy art dept.

When Yanick Paquette can step in for an issue on Uncanny (as he did recently) and blow the current art team away, you know something's seriously amiss.

[CmX]

Have you guys seen the preview for New Mutants #7 yet?

Doug has a flash of his memory and there's a woman that might resemble Betsy?

I'm not entirely sure can you guys check it out and let me know which scene that is referring to? The preview is up at the main page sorry I didn't grab the link. :/

[.LuckyStar.]

I think that's Kitty. I'm not sure though. I've never read New Mutants. :/

[Ryan W]

That scene is with Kitty. It's almost a direct quote from an Uncanny issue. :smile: But that doesn't mean the Betts love can't still happen!

[CmX]

I think that's Kitty. I'm not sure though. I've never read New Mutants. :/

Ew. What a let down.

[jeansbff]

Hey guys whats your opinion on psylockes current power set. I know shes done great things w the tk but its not hers and it was a mistake to give it to her in the first place. I think betsy should lose the tk and keep the tp, all she does w the tk now is to summon her katana and increase her strength. Its like kwannon when she gained tp, all she did w it was create a sword and cloud peoples minds. W jean coming back soon i dont want betsy to have both powers, thats jeans thing...

[Daniel Mengsk]

Ew. What a let down.

Yeah, a huge letdown. I mean, why the hell would Doug remember 'Bullets' rather than his cougar-lover Betsy? Such a fail....

[psycwave]

I love the tk. I love how she uses it to increase her strength/fighting ability. I love the tp. Its the classic. I love the current powerset. No more changing or alterations please.

[Talisman]

I love the tk. I love how she uses it to increase her strength/fighting ability. I love the tp. Its the classic. I love the current powerset. No more changing or alterations please.
I hate the tk. When she loses it for good, then I'll be pleasantly pleased.

[.LuckyStar.]

Ew. What a let down.

LOL. But Betsy is Kitty's big sister!

I'm fine with both TK and TP as long as they aren't uber-powerful.

[Psychic Illusion]

I want her to be a psychic powerhouse again. Her TK should be mild to week. She should be a powerful telepath like she was before and we need the psycho blasts to return. I think the focused totality of her telepathy and telekenesis combined should result to the psycho blasts returning again.

[psycwave]

I hate the tk. When she loses it for good, then I'll be pleasantly pleased.

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[Daniel Mengsk]

CmX, is it to late to send in X-Pos. questions to Fraction?

[CmX]

CmX, is it to late to send in X-Pos. questions to Fraction?

No I don't think so. But the odds of you getting your question aren't great if you send it in this late. Worth a try anyway. :)

[Daniel Mengsk]

No I don't think so. But the odds of you getting your question aren't great if you send it in this late. Worth a try anyway. :)

The odds are never good for me, but I'll give it a try. ;)

I'm not sure what to ask though; I told CIB that I would ask a Betsy-Xavier question, but now I'm not so sure that I want to know anything Xavier-related for the moment.

[Talisman]

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo181/Juno_18_2008/deidra2.gif
She's a hotter mess than J.Lo was at the AMA's last night.

[joshtylen]

Yeah I want powerhouse ninja TP Psylocke back. She’s doing really well and kicking a@@ with just the TP and ninja skills in her mini. Hope they keep it that way and lose the TK for good. Can’t wait for #2.

[psycwave]

She's a hotter mess than J.Lo was at the AMA's last night.

OMG I had to turn my television off during that horrid performance.

Yeah I want powerhouse ninja TP Psylocke back. She’s doing really well and kicking a@@ with just the TP and ninja skills in her mini. Hope they keep it that way and lose the TK for good. Can’t wait for #2.

She used tk in the mini too.

[CmX]

The odds are never good for me, but I'll give it a try. ;)

I'm not sure what to ask though; I told CIB that I would ask a Betsy-Xavier question, but now I'm not so sure that I want to know anything Xavier-related for the moment.

I asked what we could expect from future stories of Psylocke in Uncanny. If any and if we should look forward to them.

Fraction hinted awhile back that Psylocke wasn't exactly the same person she once was so I'm curious what he meant or if he's going to ever follow up on it.

[Talisman]

OMG I had to turn my television off during that horrid performance.
I was trying to get a GIF of it, but my comp was effing up. SWEET GOD, was that shit horrible.



She used tk in the mini too.
Did she? I'll have to re-read it. I don't remember her doing that.

[.LuckyStar.]

I asked what we could expect from future stories of Psylocke in Uncanny. If any and if we should look forward to them.

Fraction hinted awhile back that Psylocke wasn't exactly the same person she once was so I'm curious what he meant or if he's going to ever follow up on it.

I asked about the whole not being herself on the inside too! lol. Also if Psylocke and Warren are an item.

[timbox]

While Psylocke could relate to Warren's situation, I don't see Warren opening up to her right now, for fear of hurting her.

[psycwave]

I was trying to get a GIF of it, but my comp was effing up. SWEET GOD, was that shit horrible.


UGH i'm trying to block it out of my memory. What did you think of Whitney's performance. It was kinda below par for me.


Did she? I'll have to re-read it. I don't remember her doing that.

It was just a quick move. When she hand blasted that ninja backward. She uses it more in the second ish though.

[Talisman]

UGH i'm trying to block it out of my memory. What did you think of Whitney's performance. It was kinda below par for me.
I haven't been blown away by Whitney's live performances in years. Her best was at Divas Las Vegas with Mary J. doing No More Drama.


It was just a quick move. When she hand blasted that ninja backward. She uses it more in the second ish though.
Okay, I remember that now. I really hate the TK. If they want a TP/TK person, just bring Rachel back. Betsy has always been bad ass relying on her tp and her physical assets.

[Daniel Mengsk]

I asked what we could expect from future stories of Psylocke in Uncanny. If any and if we should look forward to them.

Fraction hinted awhile back that Psylocke wasn't exactly the same person she once was so I'm curious what he meant or if he's going to ever follow up on it.

I thought about asking if her current 'killing spree' in the mini would have any repercussions for her once she returned to Utopia. In the end I opted to ask the power question instead - I'm dead tired of not knowing the current status of her psi-powers.

[psycwave]

I haven't been blown away by Whitney's live performances in years. Her best was at Divas Las Vegas with Mary J. doing No More Drama.

Give that girl some drugs. That will put the pep back in her step.


Okay, I remember that now. I really hate the TK. If they want a TP/TK person, just bring Rachel back. Betsy has always been bad ass relying on her tp and her physical assets.

Well Ray is gross so they had to substitute.

[.LuckyStar.]

While Psylocke could relate to Warren's situation, I don't see Warren opening up to her right now, for fear of hurting her.

tim, I've just re-read Crimson Dawn. Warren says they would live happily ever after. Is he delusional?

[CmX]

I asked about the whole not being herself on the inside too! lol. Also if Psylocke and Warren are an item.

Ahh! That's a good question. They have hinted to him being attracted to her in the comic and then I forget someone in an interview said that Warren still liked Betsy a lot.

I'd like to see them get back together. IF she had to be with anyone.

[jeansbff]

I haven't been blown away by Whitney's live performances in years. Her best was at Divas Las Vegas with Mary J. doing No More Drama.



Okay, I remember that now. I really hate the TK. If they want a TP/TK person, just bring Rachel back. Betsy has always been bad ass relying on her tp and her physical assets.

Uh... hello Jean Grey! She is in a league of her own compared to rach and bets in both tp and tk. Am I the only Jean fan posting on this thread?

[Talisman]

Ahh! That's a good question. They have hinted to him being attracted to her in the comic and then I forget someone in an interview said that Warren still liked Betsy a lot.

I'd like to see them get back together. IF she had to be with anyone.
It's her slanted vagina that snags em every time.
Uh... hello Jean Grey! She is in a league of her own compared to rach and bets in both tp and tk. Am I the only Jean fan posting on this thread?
She's not alive right now.

[psycwave]

Am I the only Jean fan posting on this thread?

Yes. Plus she is dead.

[fod_xp]

I would like to see Betsy in a real costume.

No, the Elecktra ninja thong is not a real costume. Also, (sorry just occurred to me), why have none of the X-villains ever popped a boner? With all the half-to-naked women running around beating people up, not one X-Villain ever said, "You really need to put pants on Ms. Psylocke because if we continue to fight, this will get quite inappropriate."

or

"I am filing litigation for public indecency, assault, battery, and sexual harassment!"

[CmX]

Uh... hello Jean Grey! She is in a league of her own compared to rach and bets in both tp and tk. Am I the only Jean fan posting on this thread?

Shouldn't you be throwing around Jean's name in the Jean Grey appreciation thread?

This is Psylocke's thread if you haven't realized.

[Pixie_Solanas]

I would like to see Betsy in a real costume.

No, the Elecktra ninja thong is not a real costume. Also, (sorry just occurred to me), why have none of the X-villains ever popped a boner? With all the half-to-naked women running around beating people up, not one X-Villain ever said, "You really need to put pants on Ms. Psylocke because if we continue to fight, this will get quite inappropriate."

or

"I am filing litigation for public indecency, assault, battery, and sexual harassment!"

Her rear is so out in the open, it's hard not to take notice of the tangy ass-scent.

[fod_xp]

Her rear is so out in the open, it's hard not to take notice of the tangy ass-scent.

You evil WITCH, don't taunt my fragile male psyche with the thought of that. :tongue:

[jeansbff]

Shouldn't you be throwing around Jean's name in the Jean Grey appreciation thread?

This is Psylocke's thread if you haven't realized.

Oh I am darling. I post quite frequently on the Jean Grey appreciation thread. Psylockes like my fourth favourite character. Oh by the way 2010 is looking like jeans year, 2005 and 2009 were betsys years. The only thing i dont like about psylocke is that shes ripping off jeans power set again.

[Daniel Mengsk]

Oh by the way 2010 is looking like jeans year, 2005 and 2009 were betsys years.

Were?


The only thing i dont like about psylocke is that shes ripping off jeans power set again.

Again?

[jeansbff]

Were?


Again?
2005 is over and 2009 is nearly over.

First psylocke took jeans tk and now she has tp and tk. Im stoked for psylocke that she has her original powers back but the tk has to go. Im also happy that shes in uxm at the moment, sorry if i came across as an obsessive jean fan.

[coveredinbees]

I like Jean.

[samhalliwell]

Again?

I don't think limiting telekinesis and telepathy is a viable option in comics as a whole. I don't think it's logical to say anyone's ripping Jean off when those powers are so common, jeansbff.

I like Jean.

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