Psylocke Appreciation Thread

[Phil Hunn]

Dude, relax. It's going to be great.

http://www.wax-work.com/psylek.jpg

Nice work :biggrin:

What a terrible dress. I wept a little inside. Poor Betsy ... she's had such horrendous outfits over the years ...

Hey, at least she was covering up her cootchie with something other than a handkerchief and a prayer. That's a small victory, right?

There was a panel during her fake STRIKE training. She was wearing fatigues and beating on some chump.

Makes me giggle when I see it. Considering..:biggrin: :biggrin:

Yes, I never quite got that either. If she was an awesome battle-babe as English Betsy... why would she need to be ninja-fied at all?

[wonderland]

If Psylocke returned to the 616MU what would she do? a lot of things have changed...The Xmen as she knew them are gone..

Cyclops' Xmen Psylocke is certainly one of the more combative mutants but would she follow Cyclops new mantra..+ her and Emma really dont like each other.

Xavier Its been said she doesnt have much of a connection with Xavier but a big chunk of her life was spent at the mansion..The same could be said about her relationship with others (lets call them xmen exiles) such as Gambit, Rogue, Rachel etc. would she try and find them?

Cpt Britain Family is family and home is where the heart is..

Other...

[The Sword Is Drawn]

If Psylocke returned to the 616MU what would she do? a lot of things have changed...The Xmen as she knew them are gone..

Cyclops' Xmen Psylocke is certainly one of the more combative mutants but would she follow Cyclops new mantra..+ her and Emma really dont like each other.

Xavier Its been said she doesnt have much of a connection with Xavier but a big chunk of her life was spent at the mansion..The same could be said about her relationship with others (lets call them xmen exiles) such as Gambit, Rogue, Rachel etc. would she try and find them?

Cpt Britain Family is family and home is where the heart is..

Other...

Joining up with Captain Brotain & MI:13 would be the most sensible option.

[Sindel]

The Fake retconned training?:rolleyes:

LMAO. In her Original writings, the Only Work she did for Strike was their Psy-Ops division.

Then later she gets some training from a Captain Britain Corps member.

Then she joins the X-men, and is NEVER presented as a strong physical threat.
She threw exactly one punch as the caucasian Psylocke. That was against Jean Grey during the Inferno thingee.

Next thing you know, she's retconned inton this Fighting Machine from Strike, who was also a secret spy...:rolleyes:
Who Tessa stunned into obedience and made her run away.

Her hisory seriously got screwed.:tongue:



and im glad the era of the week hideous british slut psylock is DEAD to be twisted and molded as any writer sees fit. long live asian psylocke!

[Phil Hunn]

and im glad the era of the week hideous british slut psylock

... British Betsy was a slut? Since when?

No, seriously, since when? Point me in the direction of issues where she slept around.

[eurazn]

and im glad the era of the week hideous british slut psylock is DEAD to be twisted and molded as any writer sees fit. long live asian psylocke!

I would think the Asian version would embody that monicker moreso than the British version. The former had flirtations/relations with Angel, Thunderbird III, and Cyclops, but I can't think of anyone she paired up with in her Brit form, other than the kiss she shared with Havok before entering the Siege Perilous.

I wouldn't call EITHER version by that name, to be honest. I think the X-Gents have had more partners than the X-Women on the whole.

[Tazirai]

and im glad the era of the week hideous british slut psylock is DEAD to be twisted and molded as any writer sees fit. long live asian psylocke!

Just because you can't hold your own in a physical fight, doesn't make one weak.
As has been stated, she was one of the few x-men who routinely took on more foes, and came out on top. She used her powers in ways other telepaths, including Jean Grey didn't.

I can fight In real life, But I can't shoot worth a damn. Does that make me weak?
No it makes me tactical. I use what I have to make sure the guy /gal with a gun doesn't get me.

And lord know's i've ben in enough fights in my life.. to have learned something.:biggrin: :biggrin:

[Phil Hunn]

I would think the Asian version would embody that monicker moreso than the British version. The former had flirtations/relations with Angel, Thunderbird III, and Cyclops, but I can't think of anyone she paired up with in her Brit form, other than the kiss she shared with Havok before entering the Siege Perilous.

During Alan Moore's run on Marvel UK's Captain Britain title, Betsy had a relationship with a guy called Tom Lennox, who she was engaged to (and she was devastated when he died). She had a deep affection for Doug Ramsey... but since he was below the age of consent, she never did anything.

Also, British Betsy incorporated underpants into her costume :biggrin:

[eurazn]

During Alan Moore's run on Marvel UK's Captain Britain title, Betsy had a relationship with a guy called Tom Lennox, who she was engaged to (and she was devastated when he died). She had a deep affection for Doug Ramsey... but since he was below the age of consent, she never did anything.

Also, British Betsy incorporated underpants into her costume :biggrin:

Ooooh, so she was a potential cradle robber, I love that. Too bad she never got to show him the focused totality of her telepathic powers ...

[Sindel]

I can fight In real life, But I can't shoot worth a damn. Does that make me weak?
:


yes. but perhaps calling british psylocke a slut is far to harsh...she was definitely much more of a pedophile.doug ramsey couldn't have been more older then 13 when she attempted to show him how her "carpet" matches the drapes.

[DDM]

Ooooh, so she was a potential cradle robber, I love that. Too bad she never got to show him the focused totality of her telepathic powers ...

Betsy Braddock did show the focus totality of her telepathic powers against Kaptain Briton in Captain Britain #5-6:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/14671172664.5.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/14671172664.6.GIF

Kaptain Briton tricked the Technet into believing he was Brian Braddock, Captain Britain when he switched costumes in the mele. The Earth 616 Brian Braddock was given to Mastrex Opal Lun Sat-Yr-9 as they were paid to do, then Kaptain Briton tried to rape Betsy; she used her psycho-blaster powers to effectively fry his brain & pretty much fried Kaptain Briton's head & neck, despite one of the Technet muffling Betsy's psi-powers. Betsy then asked where is Brian...

He was escaping Sat-Yr-9's earth to go back home. She went further insane when the Technet released Pandora, the sentient slime mold to kill her guards.

[Phil Hunn]

Ooooh, so she was a potential cradle robber, I love that. Too bad she never got to show him the focused totality of her telepathic powers ...

Colossus has the market cornered when it comes to cradle-robbing, I think :wink:

[Anon_me]

Colossus has the market cornered when it comes to cradle-robbing, I think :wink:

Kitty was 13 but Peter was still in his teens as well, no? Betsy, on the other hand, was what? late 20s? and Doug was maybe 15 so she's still up on Petey =p But, you know, if Doug had lived, Betsy and him might have made an interesting couple now.

[Mundungus]

I think, visually, Psylocke is really cool. I just think that she needs to be handed around to a few quality writers for awhile. I understand that Claremont really likes her, but I know Mike Carey has expressed interest in writing her.

So, yeah.

[Tazirai]

Kitty was 13 but Peter was still in his teens as well, no? Betsy, on the other hand, was what? late 20s? and Doug was maybe 15 so she's still up on Petey =p But, you know, if Doug had lived, Betsy and him might have made an interesting couple now.

naw Betsy was more like late 20's early 30's..
She should be nearing 40 or so right now.


But Marvel time is BEYOND wonky.

[pryde15]

I think, visually, Psylocke is really cool. I just think that she needs to be handed around to a few quality writers for awhile. I understand that Claremont really likes her, but I know Mike Carey has expressed interest in writing her.

So, yeah.

I doubt Claremont will be giving up Psylocke anytime soon, same goes for Sage. He has his pet characters, and he will never let them go. :frown:

Although seeing Carey write Betsy would be awesome.

[Phil Hunn]

Kitty was 13 but Peter was still in his teens as well, no? Betsy, on the other hand, was what? late 20s? and Doug was maybe 15 so she's still up on Petey =p But, you know, if Doug had lived, Betsy and him might have made an interesting couple now.

Colossus was 18 at the time, and he actually touched Kitty (maybe not in her no-no place, but he still touched her). Doug did see Betsy naked (at the end of New Mutants Annual #2), but that was by accident (Mojo was clearly being the fat old perv we know he is), and he never actually entered into a relationship with her.

naw Betsy was more like late 20's early 30's..
She should be nearing 40 or so right now.


But Marvel time is BEYOND wonky.

Yes, apparently Betsy's birthday was some time in 1956 (according to one of the 80s X-comics), which should make her a year older than my mum. Actually, Jean Grey's birthday is also some time in 1956, according to her first tombstone. She doesn't have a second tombstone, just that memorial saying "She Will Rise Again". Which is probably safer for all concerned right now...

[cgar]

yes. but perhaps calling british psylocke a slut is far to harsh...she was definitely much more of a pedophile.doug ramsey couldn't have been more older then 13 when she attempted to show him how her "carpet" matches the drapes.

yah who cares a 13 would still hit that if he had that chance

[metalgorgomon]

If Psylocke returned to the 616MU what would she do? a lot of things have changed...The Xmen as she knew them are gone..

Cyclops' Xmen Psylocke is certainly one of the more combative mutants but would she follow Cyclops new mantra..+ her and Emma really dont like each other.

Xavier Its been said she doesnt have much of a connection with Xavier but a big chunk of her life was spent at the mansion..The same could be said about her relationship with others (lets call them xmen exiles) such as Gambit, Rogue, Rachel etc. would she try and find them?

Cpt Britain Family is family and home is where the heart is..

Other...

Joining up with Captain Brotain & MI:13 would be the most sensible option.

I kinda agree with TSID here.. Captain Britain & MI:13 seems like a good place for her upon returning to 616. Good writer, good art and she's going to be back home to England.

I also would love seeing Betsy in Astonishing X-Men. Astonishing is the best selling X-Book at the moment. It'll great for Betsy to be featured in that book. She deserves to be in the spotlight again.

[metalgorgomon]

Just want to share a picture of Psylocke/Lady Mandarin in the New Exiles #9 cover.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/NEWEXILES009_cov.jpg

I absolutely LOVE it!! That is the Psylocke i want to see. Telepathic-ninja-armored-sword wielding Betsy (even the CD mark looked good). Eventhough that's not our 616 Betsy, I think that cover is one of the best Psylocke cover ever. Credit to Alexander Garner for drawing a great Psylocke.
Hopefully CC will keep this version in New Exiles and send the real one back to 616.

[CmX]

It's like CC is teasing us by introducing the ideal Psylocke.

Instead what we have is a telekinetic Psylocke with immunities up the asshole and making out with Sabretooth, oh and she flies wtf.

[eurazn]

Just want to share a picture of Psylocke/Lady Mandarin in the New Exiles #9 cover.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/NEWEXILES009_cov.jpg

I absolutely LOVE it!! That is the Psylocke i want to see. Telepathic-ninja-armored-sword wielding Betsy (even the CD mark looked good). Eventhough that's not our 616 Betsy, I think that cover is one of the best Psylocke cover ever. Credit to Alexander Garner for drawing a great Psylocke.
Hopefully CC will keep this version in New Exiles and send the real one back to 616.

Beautiful! Can we please have that Psylocke instead??

It's like CC is teasing us by introducing the ideal Psylocke.

Instead what we have is a telekinetic Psylocke with immunities up the asshole and making out with Sabretooth, oh and she flies wtf.

It makes the martial arts and tele-katana rather useless, doesn't it? FAIL.

[metalgorgomon]

It's like CC is teasing us by introducing the ideal Psylocke.

Instead what we have is a telekinetic Psylocke with immunities up the asshole and making out with Sabretooth, oh and she flies wtf.

I think your partly right. CC's idea of the ideal Psylocke is the telepathic one. Love your avatar, btw.

Beautiful! Can we please have that Psylocke instead??


I don't really mind. Even if she keeps being evil in 616.

[DDM]

Just want to share a picture of Psylocke/Lady Mandarin in the New Exiles #9 cover.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/NEWEXILES009_cov.jpg

I absolutely LOVE it!! That is the Psylocke i want to see. Telepathic-ninja-armored-sword wielding Betsy (even the CD mark looked good). Eventhough that's not our 616 Betsy, I think that cover is one of the best Psylocke cover ever. Credit to Alexander Garner for drawing a great Psylocke.
Hopefully CC will keep this version in New Exiles and send the real one back to 616.

Telepathic Psylocke is the best. I wonder what Betsy's going to do when she has to literally fight herself?

I agree; it is a great comic book cover. Does she also possess the Mandarin's rings since she is going by the Lady Mandarin name? In this universe, apparently Betsy remains under the spell of the Hand or worse, she broke free, & found being evil much better than being a hero...:eek:

[Phil Hunn]

I kinda agree with TSID here.. Captain Britain & MI:13 seems like a good place for her upon returning to 616. Good writer, good art and she's going to be back home to England.

Betsy arriving in that book would be ten kinds of awesome. I'd love to see her interaction with John the Skrull, for one thing :biggrin:

[Tazirai]

Just want to share a picture of Psylocke/Lady Mandarin in the New Exiles #9 cover.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/NEWEXILES009_cov.jpg

I absolutely LOVE it!! That is the Psylocke i want to see. Telepathic-ninja-armored-sword wielding Betsy (even the CD mark looked good). Eventhough that's not our 616 Betsy, I think that cover is one of the best Psylocke cover ever. Credit to Alexander Garner for drawing a great Psylocke.
Hopefully CC will keep this version in New Exiles and send the real one back to 616.

Outside of the Crimson dawn scar.. I LOVE IT.

Armor....yes^^:biggrin:
Telepathy...yes:biggrin:
Sword.. A real one...eek:
Pretty British looking.:tongue:

[jarrod]

So... what do Psylocke fans miss more, her telepathy or her caucasian ethnicity? Would you rather have Betsy asian and telepathic or british and telekinetic if given the option?

[HellFrost]

So... what do Psylocke fans miss more, her telepathy or her caucasian ethnicity? Would you rather have Betsy asian and telepathic or british and telekinetic if given the option?

Asain and telepathic. I don't think TK fits her. She's supposed to be a ninja which I think is a lot more interesting a combination with TP.

Although I still prefer British/TP/Precog/Psycho-Blaster Elisabeth over all of them...

[metalgorgomon]

I missed her telepathy more than anything else.

Be it British or Asian, she was feared by her opponent for being a telepath. Even after her ninjafication, she used her telepathy creatively such as illusion, telecomunnication and psychic knife. The psychic knife was one of her coolest skill, IMO along with the Butterfly Aura.
And I think she did more damage being a telepath compared than a telekinetic.

After being a telekinetic she did nothing but boring stuff, such as flying and the TK sword. Hell.. the tk sword hasn't done anything really interesting, IMO. No real damage to her opponent. She is presumably one of the strongest Tk user at the moment. And that will not do anything good for her character. Since it can be used as deus ex thingy or it can only be used for boring stuff (holding a nuke explosion, reflecting beam etc).

Psylocke has always been an active character, especially in battles, even when she was still a telepath. She used her TP actively when engadged to a battle. Now she only used her TK for the lame TK sword. And that sword hasn't done anything good but ripping the clothes of her opponents.

[Phil Hunn]

So... what do Psylocke fans miss more, her telepathy or her caucasian ethnicity? Would you rather have Betsy asian and telepathic or british and telekinetic if given the option?

Probably her telepathy more than her ethnicity. She was creative with her telepathy a lot of the time (at least before she was reduced to "focused totality blah blah blah... now I kick people in the face", anyway), and could definitely make the power seem unique in her hands.

Now she's just a smashing machine (outside of baffling moments like being able to telepathically stun people with her TK blade, and using her telekinesis to turn invisible), and that makes me a sad panda.

Although English Betsy was still the best. Mostly because she wore underpants...

[sHayden]

1 thing to say. 1992 Marvel Masterpieces.

[Flameworthy]

So... what do Psylocke fans miss more, her telepathy or her caucasian ethnicity? Would you rather have Betsy asian and telepathic or british and telekinetic if given the option?

That's a really hard choice, and although I loved Betsy with telepathy far more than I ever will would with TK, I'd rather she be in her caucasian body, because 98% of the time she's been drawn/written as nothing more than a sex object in the asian body.

[Phil Hunn]

That's a really hard choice, and although I loved Betsy with telepathy far more than I ever will would with TK, I'd rather she be in her caucasian body, because 98% of the time she's been drawn/written as nothing more than a sex object in the asian body.

Sad but true. She's effectively been reduced to whacking material for geeky teenagers.

[Venom Melendez]

I love Betsy, though it did irk me that she instantly gain Ninja-skills when she got her asian body.
I wish she was in M:13 with her bro instead of exiles.

Though that Exiles cover rocks.

[Phil Hunn]

I love Betsy, though it did irk me that she instantly gain Ninja-skills when she got her asian body.

That, and she suddenly gained an increased appreciation for "honour", despite the fact that ninjas didn't adhere to it at all.

But hey, facts never got in the way of a stereotype before, right?

I wish she was in M:13 with her bro instead of exiles.

Though that Exiles cover rocks.

Yeah, I'd much prefer for her to be with Cap in MI-13, too. But she'll be with CC until he retires, I imagine...

[DDM]

That, and she suddenly gained an increased appreciation for "honour", despite the fact that ninjas didn't adhere to it at all.

But hey, facts never got in the way of a stereotype before, right?

This whole ninja honor thing came about after Chris Claremont left the X-Men books. Previously, under Chris Claremont, no such honor garbage is brought into the conversation. Betsy is just worried she might have an alligence to the Hand while Wolverine is going crazy...

[Phil Hunn]

This whole ninja honor thing came about after Chris Claremont left the X-Men books. Previously, under Chris Claremont, no such honor garbage is brought into the conversation. Betsy is just worried she might have an alligence to the Hand while Wolverine is going crazy...

The point I was making was that ninjas didn't adhere to a code of honour. Samurai did, while ninjas were used as assassins and spies. You wouldn't have much need of an honour code if your job description was to stab someone in the back or slit their throat while they're sleeping.

So Betsy wittering on about that kind of thing made very little sense...

[metalgorgomon]

That, and she suddenly gained an increased appreciation for "honour", despite the fact that ninjas didn't adhere to it at all.

But hey, facts never got in the way of a stereotype before, right?



This whole ninja honor thing came about after Chris Claremont left the X-Men books. Previously, under Chris Claremont, no such honor garbage is brought into the conversation. Betsy is just worried she might have an alligence to the Hand while Wolverine is going crazy...

The point I was making was that ninjas didn't adhere to a code of honour. Samurai did, while ninjas were used as assassins and spies. You wouldn't have much need of an honour code if your job description was to stab someone in the back or slit their throat while they're sleeping.

So Betsy wittering on about that kind of thing made very little sense...

I always consider Betsy as a warrior. She surely has the ninja skills but in heart she's alwyas a warrior, hence the appreciation of honour. Back when she's still caucasian, she looked at herself as a warrior and that hasn't changed even after her transformation.

On the other hand, Kwanon was a ninja that didn't has the same code of honour as Betsy does.

[Phil Hunn]

I always consider Betsy as a warrior. She surely has the ninja skills but in heart she's alwyas a warrior, hence the appreciation of honour. Back when she's still caucasian, she looked at herself as a warrior and that hasn't changed even after her transformation.

Well, that does make a lot of sense, but she never really had any qualms about fighting dirty as English Betsy, so far as I could see. Not that I have a problem with that, you understand, but it didn't seem very similar to Wolverine's code of honour - although that's a tenuous description at best, considering some of the things Logan's done over the years (like stabbing Viper in the gut and threatening to let her bleed to death unless she granted him a divorce).

[Tazirai]

oopsie on the multi posts.

[Tazirai]

oopsie on the multi posts.

[Tazirai]

oopsie on the multi posts.

[Tazirai]

psylocke sig I just made..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/PsylockeEvolutionsSigbutterfly.jpg

This is called Evolutions.. Showing her evolve from her beginnings, into the Armored Telepathic Warrior.

This one is due to the Lingerie she always wore.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/PsylockeSig.jpg

enjoy.

[psycwave]

So... what do Psylocke fans miss more, her telepathy or her caucasian ethnicity? Would you rather have Betsy asian and telepathic or british and telekinetic if given the option?

Of course I would love telepathic Betsy back, if she was returned to her british body(make it happen marvel!!!) and kept her telekinesis i wouldn't be completely upset(considering the writer uses it well). As a warrior Betsy should be using her tk to make herself stronger, faster, gliding(Crouching Tiger Style!!). Plus, if she must have a tk sword have it able to affect the physical like a real sword since tk is more of a physical force while her tp was mental. I also like that idea of tk butterrfly shurikens someone said earlier. If shes going to be an action junkie make her a worthy action junkie but still throw in a little of that tactical sense she showed in the prebody swap days.

[Askani's Flame]

So... what do Psylocke fans miss more, her telepathy or her caucasian ethnicity? Would you rather have Betsy asian and telepathic or british and telekinetic if given the option?

I miss her telepathy most. She was revered as being a formidable telepath, especially with her psychoblaster. The butterfly effect was a favourite of mine. I don't like this TK nonsense, and that she is so skilled with it all of a sudden. I see the lame excuse why she is so powerful, but power doesn't equal skill. All of a sudden being able to fly and become invisible, when you could barely pick up a dime before, is a bit much.

Secondly I miss her original body. While it was interesting to see her as a telepathic ninja, I prefer her as British.

[Phil Hunn]

I miss her telepathy most. She was revered as being a formidable telepath, especially with her psychoblaster. The butterfly effect was a favourite of mine. I don't like this TK nonsense, and that she is so skilled with it all of a sudden.

Yes, especially since it was made very clear from the outset that although she could smash mountains with her TK, she couldn't pick up a penny because her power wasn't suited to fine motor control. Going from that to being able to use it to turn invisible and stun people with her TK katana is... a bit of a leap, to say the least.

[jeannie]

I really preferred her as a telepath too. I liked how she developed armor to protect her weaker physical body in Australia and I liked how she evolved to become a formidable fighter who complimented her ninja skills with mental powers, which effectively made her a warrior on both the mental and physical realms. The butterfly effect was nice too.

[Dagger]

I miss both because I miss this girl who always wanted to run with the big boys, but couldnt' physically handle it. Making her a ninja was one of the worst things that could have happened to her.

[Tazirai]

I miss both because I miss this girl who always wanted to run with the big boys, but couldnt' physically handle it. Making her a ninja was one of the worst things that could have happened to her.

That's why I made the evolution gifs/sigs. You can see the progression from Rookie to Warrior.
She may not as been as tough as the others, but she was far from helpless.

[psycwave]

If Psylocke and Elektra were to go toe 2 toe without powers, who would win?

[Saturius]

If Psylocke and Elektra were to go toe 2 toe without powers, who would win?

Very hard to tell. Probably Elektra though. Even though a lot of people don't take the ratings Marvel uses to rate their various characters fighting ability, almost all of them have Elektra's fighting abilities above Psylocke's. Not that it matters cause Psylocke is much cooler.

[SunfireX]

If Psylocke and Elektra were to go toe 2 toe without powers, who would win?

I always pictured Elektra to be one of the most amazing hand to hand warriors in the MU and while Betsy can be badass I don't think she has close to as much training or warrior drive as Elektra

[Cyclopsj316]

Psylocke as an asian ninja was the best thing that ever happened to her. Though i loved the telepathy, that psychic knife is enough to satisfy my betsy needs.

Hot Asian psylocke with Psy-Knife gets my vote !!!

[Phil Hunn]

Psylocke as an asian ninja was the best thing that ever happened to her.

She suffered over a decade of being the X-Men's resident porn-star pin-up who pranced around wearing no underpants and warbling on about the focused totality of her psychic powers, instead of actually doing anything worthwhile. That's a good thing?

[pryde15]

Psylocke as an asian ninja was the best thing that ever happened to her. Though i loved the telepathy, that psychic knife is enough to satisfy my betsy needs.

Hot Asian psylocke with Psy-Knife gets my vote !!!

Seriously? She was much more compelling in her british body with telepathy. From our brief encounters in threads, it is very apparent that our taste differ GREATLY. I think Asian Ninja + Psi-Knife is full of fail.

[Cyclopsj316]

She suffered over a decade of being the X-Men's resident porn-star pin-up who pranced around wearing no underpants and warbling on about the focused totality of her psychic powers, instead of actually doing anything worthwhile. That's a good thing?

you forgot x-men issue # 18, where she goes to freezing cold, snow covered, russia - while prancing around in scantly clad said, "no underpants"... :biggrin: yep. DEFINITELY cool...


Seriously? She was much more compelling in her british body with telepathy. From our brief encounters in threads, it is very apparent that our taste differ GREATLY. I think Asian Ninja + Psi-Knife is full of fail.

yes, it is very apparent that our taste vary drastically. in the span of the last 2 minutes, i've seen that :

- i like asian psy-knife psylocke. you don't.
- i like scott and jean together. you don't.

dayum, i just got here, and it looks like well be butting heads for the foreseeable future. :tongue:

who knows, maybe well both come together in our mutual love for howard the duck. ( don't you dare say he is NOT cool...)

[Cyclopsj316]

on top of all this love for asian psylocke, imma have to add...

i hope she hooks back up with archangel.

whew. thats bound to stir things up... but who cares, i mean it. :biggrin:

i'm still waiting for thunderbird to show up again, so warren can tear him a new one...:evilsmile:

[pryde15]

you forgot x-men issue # 18, where she goes to freezing cold, snow covered, russia - while prancing around in scantly clad said, "no underpants"... :biggrin: yep. DEFINITELY cool...




yes, it is very apparent that our taste vary drastically. in the span of the last 2 minutes, i've seen that :

- i like asian psy-knife psylocke. you don't.
- i like scott and jean together. you don't.

dayum, i just got here, and it looks like well be butting heads for the foreseeable future. :tongue:

who knows, maybe well both come together in our mutual love for howard the duck. ( don't you dare say he is NOT cool...)

As long as you don't hate Kitty Pryde I will have nothing against you. And I don't hate Scott & Jean together. I just think that after awhile writers have no idea what to do with them anymore, so it has become very stale. I feel like it's been like this for years.

I feel are main points of difference will be is. You are obviously a 90s fan. I am obviously an 80s fan.

[Cyclopsj316]

As long as you don't hate Kitty Pryde I will have nothing against you. And I don't hate Scott & Jean together. I just think that after awhile writers have no idea what to do with them anymore, so it has become very stale. I feel like it's been like this for years.

I feel are main points of difference will be is. You are obviously a 90s fan. I am obviously an 80s fan.

90's were great. i still love the 80's actually. huge jim lee fan on top of that, and fell in love even more with the x-men after the siege perilous plot... although i had to suffer losing longshot and dazzler... i got asian psylocke!!! :biggrin:

anyways, kitty is one of my favorites, and im bummed with her "passing", but i know shell be back. more bummed with her and piotr not moving forward with their relationship.

piotr and kitty are my 4th favorite x-couple, mind you. lol

scott and jean
alex and lorna
warren and betsy
piotr and kitty

but... you havent answered... HOWARD THE DUCK? any love fer da quack ???

[pryde15]

90's were great. i still love the 80's actually. huge jim lee fan on top of that, and fell in love even more with the x-men after the siege perilous plot... although i had to suffer losing longshot and dazzler... i got asian psylocke!!! :biggrin:

anyways, kitty is one of my favorites, and im bummed with her "passing", but i know shell be back. more bummed with her and piotr not moving forward with their relationship.

piotr and kitty are my 4th favorite x-couple, mind you. lol

scott and jean
alex and lorna
warren and betsy
piotr and kitty

but... you havent answered... HOWARD THE DUCK? any love fer da quack ???

oh no. You like the Kitty & Colossus relationship? :frown:

I apparently, am one of the few who doesn't of the Kitty Litter. And I was going to ask you if you were a fan of Jim Lee lol. But since this is a Psylocke Thread.

I will have to say Angel is second favorite character and I would love to see him back with Betsy, it definetly had potential, but I didn't feel like we got to see enough of it.

[Cyclopsj316]

oh no. You like the Kitty & Colossus relationship? :frown:

I apparently, am one of the few who doesn't of the Kitty Litter. And I was going to ask you if you were a fan of Jim Lee lol. But since this is a Psylocke Thread.

I will have to say Angel is second favorite character and I would love to see him back with Betsy, it definetly had potential, but I didn't feel like we got to see enough of it.

what was it that didnt do it in fer ya on piotr ?

was it the weird "old guy hittin on a kid" thing from the late 70's, early80's? I have to admit, i was weirded out at first, but then after kitty pretty much grew up and became more of a woman over in excalibur, i got over it, and enjoyed it blossom over time...

jim lee? Don't get me started on my collection of his... lol

[pryde15]

what was it that didnt do it in fer ya on piotr ?

was it the weird "old guy hittin on a kid" thing from the late 70's, early80's? I have to admit, i was weirded out at first, but then after kitty pretty much grew up and became more of a woman over in excalibur, i got over it, and enjoyed it blossom over time...

jim lee? Don't get me started on my collection of his... lol

Oh no that didn't bother me at all. Since Peter was still a teen as well (he was like 17 or something). But Colossus cheated on Kitty, more than once. And they both decided that it was finished. That is was nothing more than a childhood romance. And of course you know who was a big fan of that childhood romance (Whedon). And in trying to make his run a classic (WHICH HE DIDN'T) he resurrected a classic romance that is a great piece of both characters backstories. But that's where is should've stayed. In there backstories. I felt like Whedon was writing the 13 1/2 year old Kitty Pryde that he fell in love with, and bringing back her relationship with Piotr was just another way of doing this.

But I am sitll bitter.

And I feel really bad talking about Kitty on a Psylocke appreciation thread! lol. I shoudl really make a Kitty Appreciation Thread one of these days, But I must collect pictures and write a nice entry for the first post. :biggrin:

But I do love Betsy, but after she moved to her asian body and lost the telepathy I lost alot of my interest for the character. And it's sad because at one point I would've described her as one of my favorite characters ever.

[Cyclopsj316]

i only had two major gripes with betsy.

- when she tried to play homewrecker with scott and jean.
- when she dissed warren for neal of all lousy characters... ugh...

other than that, asian betsy is my favorite x-female of all time. closely followed by jean and M. ( M. i know, left field eh? lol )

[pryde15]

i only had two major gripes with betsy.

- when she tried to play homewrecker with scott and jean.
- when she dissed warren for neal of all lousy characters... ugh...

other than that, asian betsy is my favorite x-female of all time. closely followed by jean and M. ( M. i know, left field eh? lol )

Neal is probably one of the most hated characters on these boards. WELL actually we did a poll a few months ago on our favorites and our most hated. I would have to look for the thread.

English Betsy was badass, I loved her costume lol. And I loved the butterfly effect.

[Cyclopsj316]

Neal is probably one of the most hated characters on these boards. WELL actually we did a poll a few months ago on our favorites and our most hated. I would have to look for the thread.

English Betsy was badass, I loved her costume lol. And I loved the butterfly effect.

extreme x-men would have been great without neal shahara. slipstream and lifeguard were also unnecessary, but when neal swooped in from left feild and took betsy from warren, that was the low point for me over betsy, especially how she broke it to him.

now that i think about it... it was very emma like. M like even.

snap, imma start a poll. who's "colder".

- betsy
- emma
- M

that's a hard choice... lol

[metalgorgomon]

sorry.. multiple posts

[metalgorgomon]

sorry.. multiple posts

[metalgorgomon]

I think both the English-Telepathic and Asian-Ninja-Telephatic Betsy are great.

Both has its different. English Betsy was portrayed as a complex character with rich background. Although the Asian-Ninja one has the same background, but (especially) in the 90s, she was portrayed as a simple action and sexy chick. And I dont think its bad at all. Although I agree that the telepathy needs to be back since the TK hasn't been adding any favour for her.

I think after the period of getting her known by the readers in the 90s, writers should dig more to her characterization. And I do think she's in that direction right now. And I do really hope that CC can pull it off. She's his creation after all.

Having said that, I think Psylocke needs to be differentiated, in terms of character, with the other X-Woman. Right now, like it or not, Emma Frost is
'the' main telephatic lady of the X-Man. And I think that British Betsy has quite the similar architectur character as Emma. I'm not saying they are the same character. But both are sort of british, excellent in telepathy, member of Helfire Club, etc.
Hence, IMO the Ninja telepathic (or maybe Telekinetic) Betsy characterization should be explored more.

Claremont has been known as the writer that writes classic superhero comic. His (mega) plot was excellent. And his stories remain as one of the best comic story of all time. But right now, the comic readers are alot smaller than it used to be (in the 90s).
Many people nowadays tend to care more about 'the character' than the plot itself.
And I certainly would love to see Psylocke to be written in a comic book that has strong characterization of its characters.

[wonderland]

After a long time away from the main x-line of books, when Betsy does come back she'll be in a great position for some great stories...I really hope Mike Carey has enough pull when she becomes available to get her in one his books..His expressed an interest in writing Betsy before and in my opinion he is the best
x-writer at the moment.His done great stuff with Gambit, Rogue, Xavier etc

[psycwave]

on top of all this love for asian psylocke, imma have to add...

i hope she hooks back up with archangel.

whew. thats bound to stir things up... but who cares, i mean it. :biggrin:

i'm still waiting for thunderbird to show up again, so warren can tear him a new one...:evilsmile:

Ahh who didnt love the Warren/Betsy relationship. I would love to see her come back and Warren gets that stirrin in his loins for ole Betts which sets Paige off and Betsy has to kick her in the face. Good times. Of course if Betts did date someone else who: Gambit, Wolvie, Colossus, Havok(they did kinda have that thing in the outback days), so many choices but which one is right?

[CmX]

After a long time away from the main x-line of books, when Betsy does come back she'll be in a great position for some great stories...I really hope Mike Carey has enough pull when she becomes available to get her in one his books..His expressed an interest in writing Betsy before and in my opinion he is the best
x-writer at the moment.His done great stuff with Gambit, Rogue, Xavier etc

He writes Gambit badass again, who would have thought Gambit could still be cool?? And that's because he doesn't even like Gambit and he writes him so well!

And considering Carey has a big thing for Psylocke, my head explodes just thinking how kickass he can make Psylocke again after all these years. Let her go CC!! ARugh!! You already have freak'n Sage, sheesh!

[HellFrost]

I have a question. What if Betsy were to travel through the Siege Perilous again? Would that be powerful enough to undo Jamie's whammy? I just read the MI13 and saw that it made an appearance and just remembered what it did to her last time. It basically cause the whole damn Asian mess in the first place.

[Cyclopsj316]

Ahh who didnt love the Warren/Betsy relationship. I would love to see her come back and Warren gets that stirrin in his loins for ole Betts which sets Paige off and Betsy has to kick her in the face. Good times. Of course if Betts did date someone else who: Gambit, Wolvie, Colossus, Havok(they did kinda have that thing in the outback days), so many choices but which one is right?

betsy kickin paige in da face. thad be great. then paige could go run off back to jono, and everything would be just peachy.

as fer betsy and havok? it could work... but alex has to get over betsy "tele-forcing" him into the siege perilous... lol.

[Phil Hunn]

you forgot x-men issue # 18, where she goes to freezing cold, snow covered, russia - while prancing around in scantly clad said, "no underpants"... :biggrin: yep. DEFINITELY cool...

I think you may be mistaking the word "cool" for the word "stupid". Apparently she thought she could stop her no-no-place from freezing just by wearing a tiny jacket.

Neal is probably one of the most hated characters on these boards. WELL actually we did a poll a few months ago on our favorites and our most hated. I would have to look for the thread.

He's very possibly my least favourite character ever.

Which didn't stop me writing three fanfics about him, all of which were greeted with more enthusiasm than his canon appearances. Sad but true.

I really would have got less worked up about the break-up of Warren & Betsy if it had been over a character who was actually worth reading about, and wasn't rubbish in every way, shape or form.

Ahh who didnt love the Warren/Betsy relationship.

Chris Claremont, for one.

[Cyclopsj316]

I think you may be mistaking the word "cool" for the word "stupid". Apparently she thought she could stop her no-no-place from freezing just by wearing a tiny jacket.



no-no place ???

lol. never heard that one before. :biggrin:

for me, it's a yes-yes place... but only with my wife of course. :wink:

as for the freezing? hmm... maybe she had a psy-shield in the no-no place ? lol, i don't know !!!

[Anon_me]

If Psylocke and Elektra were to go toe 2 toe without powers, who would win?

Elektra, I'd say.

[Phil Hunn]

no-no place ???

lol. never heard that one before. :biggrin:

I picked that up from the late, lamented Uncanny X-Sprites webcomic a few years back. It's served me well ever since then :smile:

Elektra, I'd say.

Agreed. Elektra has been studying martial arts for years longer than Betsy ever has, and actually acquired her skills from something other than information-implantation.

Betsy might put up a good fight, but she'd still get beaten to a pulp...

[Anon_me]

Agreed. Elektra has been studying martial arts for years longer than Betsy ever has, and actually acquired her skills from something other than information-implantation.

Betsy might put up a good fight, but she'd still get beaten to a pulp...

Yep, I like Betsy but she seems to get routinely beat up by non-canon fodder alot when it comes to hand-to-hand. I mean, Forearm sneaked up on her, for god's sake.

[Phil Hunn]

Yep, I like Betsy but she seems to get routinely beat up by non-canon fodder alot when it comes to hand-to-hand. I mean, Forearm sneaked up on her, for god's sake.

And to think, she once mentally flummoxed Omega Red and psychically bitchslapped Magneto (although that was only because Fabian Cortez had boosted her powers to insane levels, admittedly). How the mighty have fallen :frown:

[pryde15]

She held her own against Sabretooth without any combat training. Now you can't tell that isn't impressive.

[fitditz]

I love Psylocke and i totally hate the fact that she's (psy)locked into CC's world. :tongue: She has to be released back into the X-books (a turn in X-Force would be gold) already!

[Saturius]

She held her own against Sabretooth without any combat training. Now you can't tell that isn't impressive.

Actually I think you can say that it isn't that impressive. She psycho-blasts him and then runs. She throws a barbell at him, he catches it and throws it back at her. She jumps out a window, he claws her and she falls to the floor. She attempts to use a knife on him but he punches her and she is about to be killed until Storm comes. I don't think it's as impressive as other people make it. She basically just outran (to be fair, with some cracked ribs, but..) him over a short distance, which isn't that big a deal to me, and he was obviously toying with her. She didn't really fight back. It showed her courage but it didn't leave me thinking "Wow, she can hold her own. Maybe she's tough enough afterall" Her best moments where when she schooled people with her telepathy like Sabretooth during Inferno.

[pryde15]

Actually I think you can say that it isn't that impressive. She psycho-blasts him and then runs. She throws a barbell at him, he catches it and throws it back at her. She jumps out a window, he claws her and she falls to the floor. She attempts to use a knife on him but he p\punches her and ishe s about to be killed until Storm comes. I don't think it's as impressive as other people make it. She basically just outran him over a short distance, which isn't that big a deal to me, and he was obviously toying with her. It showed her courage but it didn't leave me thinking "Wow, she can hold her own. Maybe she's tough enough afterall"

lol well it gave me that impression. :biggrin:

But how you described it, it does seem like he was toying with her. I would have to go read it again. But I am not in the mood.

[CmX]

Actually I think you can say that it isn't that impressive. She psycho-blasts him and then runs. She throws a barbell at him, he catches it and throws it back at her. She jumps out a window, he claws her and she falls to the floor. She attempts to use a knife on him but he punches her and she is about to be killed until Storm comes. I don't think it's as impressive as other people make it. She basically just outran (to be fair, with some cracked ribs, but..) him over a short distance, which isn't that big a deal to me, and he was obviously toying with her. She didn't really fight back. It showed her courage but it didn't leave me thinking "Wow, she can hold her own. Maybe she's tough enough afterall" Her best moments where when she schooled people with her telepathy like Sabretooth during Inferno.

I guess it's just impressive that she survived and wasn't killed or at least brutally beaten by him not everyone can do that. I guess it was neat to see her quick thinking and be on her toes considering it's the first time she ever even met the murderer.

[DDM]

Actually I think you can say that it isn't that impressive. She psycho-blasts him and then runs. She throws a barbell at him, he catches it and throws it back at her. She jumps out a window, he claws her and she falls to the floor. She attempts to use a knife on him but he punches her and she is about to be killed until Storm comes. I don't think it's as impressive as other people make it. She basically just outran (to be fair, with some cracked ribs, but..) him over a short distance, which isn't that big a deal to me, and he was obviously toying with her. She didn't really fight back. It showed her courage but it didn't leave me thinking "Wow, she can hold her own. Maybe she's tough enough afterall" Her best moments where when she schooled people with her telepathy like Sabretooth during Inferno.

Betsy did more than run. She was willing to sacrifice herself to save the remaining Morlocks, Doctor MacTaggert, & Nurse Sharon Friendlander from certain death! Her psi-bolts had no effect because of the psi-shields created by Mister Sinister; however, she was trying with what she had. Betsy also slipped into Sabretooth's mind when he fought Wolverine. She again thought selflessly. A coward would have run out of the mansion & never returned. Betsy did the opposite.

[pryde15]

Betsy did more than run. She was willing to sacrifice herself to save the remaining Morlocks, Doctor MacTaggert, & Nurse Sharon Friendlander from certain death! Her psi-bolts had no effect because of the psi-shields created by Mister Sinister; however, she was trying with what she had. Betsy also slipped into Sabretooth's mind when he fought Wolverine. She again thought selflessly. A coward would have run out of the mansion & never returned. Betsy did the opposite.

that's basically what they said. That it showed her courage and that she wasn't a coward.

[DDM]

that's basically what they said. That it showed her courage and that she wasn't a coward.

They also said that Psylocke did not have any bravery what she did; she was the bait for Sabretooth & almost died as a result. The other X-Men came to her aid. What she did embodies bravery & being a hero.

[pryde15]

They also said that Psylocke did not have any bravery what she did; she was the bait for Sabretooth & almost died as a result. The other X-Men came to her aid. What she did embodies bravery & being a hero.

If you read towards the bottom it said it showed how much courage Betsy had. And Satirus never said Psylocke had no bravery. I have no idea where you got that little tidbit from. But whatever.

[Tazirai]

Seriously? She was much more compelling in her british body with telepathy. From our brief encounters in threads, it is very apparent that our taste differ GREATLY. I think Asian Ninja + Psi-Knife is full of fail.

Been gone for a couple days.. But I agree.
on this.. full of

http://alansblog.co.uk/images/fail.jpg

[Tazirai]

Actually I think you can say that it isn't that impressive. She psycho-blasts him and then runs. She throws a barbell at him, he catches it and throws it back at her. She jumps out a window, he claws her and she falls to the floor. She attempts to use a knife on him but he punches her and she is about to be killed until Storm comes. I don't think it's as impressive as other people make it. She basically just outran (to be fair, with some cracked ribs, but..) him over a short distance, which isn't that big a deal to me, and he was obviously toying with her. She didn't really fight back. It showed her courage but it didn't leave me thinking "Wow, she can hold her own. Maybe she's tough enough afterall" Her best moments where when she schooled people with her telepathy like Sabretooth during Inferno.

Here she whupped him without running..
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Straight Owned him...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/Untitled-3-1.jpg

[pryde15]

Been gone for a couple days.. But I agree.
on this.. full of

http://alansblog.co.uk/images/fail.jpg

hahaha. loves it.

[metalgorgomon]

I don't get the hatred towards the Asian-Telepathic-Ninja Psylocke, especially coming from Psylocke fans themselves.

I love both of them. And I think they both have their own virtue. I understand that 90s (aka Asian/Ninja) was often used as sex object.
But power-wise, aside of becoming more active fighter, she used them the same way as British Betsy: telepathic communication/butterfly effect, Illusion, etc. The other notable difference was the psychic bolt (non ninja) vs the psychic knife (ninja).
I personally loved the psychic knife and I think it's one of her 'iconic' moves.

Any other reason for disliking the Asian-Telephatic-Ninja Psylocke?

[Tazirai]

I don't get the hatred towards the Asian-Telepathic-Ninja Psylocke, especially coming from Psylocke fans themselves.

I love both of them. And I think they both have their own virtue. I understand that 90s (aka Asian/Ninja) was often used as sex object.
But power-wise, aside of becoming more active fighter, she used them the same way as British Betsy: telepathic communication/butterfly effect, Illusion, etc. The other notable difference was the psychic bolt (non ninja) vs the psychic knife (ninja).
I personally loved the psychic knife and I think it's one of her 'iconic' moves.

Any other reason for disliking the Asian-Telephatic-Ninja Psylocke?

I dont hate her for being Asian. Having lived in Japan for 3 years and dating Japanese women. I dont hate her asianess. I hated all that came with it.

1) Every asian chick is hot
2) Every asian chick is a martial artist.
3) Every asian chick is running around being a Sex Object for americans.
4) Every Asian chick is Japanese, except when they are Chinese.
5) Every female Superhero has to kick as much ass as her male counterparts.
6) Number 5, but in the EXACT Same way.
7) Every Female superhero must pose oddly in backbreaking stances.
8) I must monologue the same Phrase over and over again.
9) I must go from being a Complex, yet not complicated character into a Summers family member, with a convoluted History.
10) My powers which has been telepathy for Decades, must go thru changes as much as my body does.
11) I must be brutalized in every conceivable way, and forget that I am a Ninja.
12) Even though I am a Ninja, I don't act ninja-e.
13) I must wear the EXACT same costume in a variety of environments which makes no sense whatsoever.
14) I must go from being a forthright Lady to a tramp.
15) I must die or inexplicably vanish from various roles periodically.
16) Since I am "Popular" I must be Asian (Japanese or Chinese.. since there are no other asian societies. that seemed to be deemed hot anyway.) In EVERY SINGLE ALTERNATE UNIVERSE THAT EXISTS.
17) Even though I am soooo extremely popular.. Jubilee gets her own book.
Co-Leads her own team. Has an appearance on an animated series that lasts years. Has a major Mini and I get killed( AGAIN) In my one movie role ( I don't even speak.) And I get manhandled by a Time traveler and kidnapped, during said animated series.. Of which I appear in two episodes.

18) I rock at Marvel vs Capcom.( That she does), but my breasts heave so heavily, my foes are to entranced to fight back.:biggrin: ( Compliment.)

19) theres more but It's 4 am..er 4:39 AM.

So in essence I don't hate Psylocke.. I hate the Caricature she's become. To Me the 90's made Women Superheroes as a whole, into something horrible. Yet the nasty aftertaste lingers a decade later.:tongue:

[Flameworthy]

I dont hate her for being Asian. Having lived in Japan for 3 years and dating Japanese women. I dont hate her asianess. I hated all that came with it.

1) Every asian chick is hot
2) Every asian chick is a martial artist.
3) Every asian chick is running around being a Sex Object for americans.
4) Every Asian chick is Japanese, except when they are Chinese.
5) Every female Superhero has to kick as much ass as her male counterparts.
6) Number 5, but in the EXACT Same way.
7) Every Female superhero must pose oddly in backbreaking stances.
8) I must monologue the same Phrase over and over again.
9) I must go from being a Complex, yet not complicated character into a Summers family member, with a convoluted History.
10) My powers which has been telepathy for Decades, must go thru changes as much as my body does.
11) I must be brutalized in every conceivable way, and forget that I am a Ninja.
12) Even though I am a Ninja, I don't act ninja-e.
13) I must wear the EXACT same costume in a variety of environments which makes no sense whatsoever.
14) I must go from being a forthright Lady to a tramp.
15) I must die or inexplicably vanish from various roles periodically.
16) Since I am "Popular" I must be Asian (Japanese or Chinese.. since there are no other asian societies. that seemed to be deemed hot anyway.) In EVERY SINGLE ALTERNATE UNIVERSE THAT EXISTS.
17) Even though I am soooo extremely popular.. Jubilee gets her own book.
Co-Leads her own team. Has an appearance on an animated series that lasts years. Has a major Mini and I get killed( AGAIN) In my one movie role ( I don't even speak.) And I get manhandled by a Time traveler and kidnapped, during said animated series.. Of which I appear in two episodes.

18) I rock at Marvel vs Capcom.( That she does), but my breasts heave so heavily, my foes are to entranced to fight back.:biggrin: ( Compliment.)

19) theres more but It's 4 am..er 4:39 AM.

So in essence I don't hate Psylocke.. I hate the Caricature she's become. To Me the 90's made Women Superheroes as a whole, into something horrible. Yet the nasty aftertaste lingers a decade later.:tongue:

That's too funny and you're absolutely right.

[Come To Deathstrike]

How to fix Psylocke and make her my favourite chraacter again.

1) NO NEXILES NO.
2) Oh look, for some reason I'm english again.
3) Oh look wow, I'm not a ninja that's completely pointless.
4) Oh look wow, I'm wearing something good.
5) Oh wow, I'm in England in Captain Britain and MI:13.

HURRAY.

[eurazn]

I dont hate her for being Asian. Having lived in Japan for 3 years and dating Japanese women. I dont hate her asianess. I hated all that came with it.

1) Every asian chick is hot
2) Every asian chick is a martial artist.
3) Every asian chick is running around being a Sex Object for americans.
4) Every Asian chick is Japanese, except when they are Chinese.
5) Every female Superhero has to kick as much ass as her male counterparts.
6) Number 5, but in the EXACT Same way.
7) Every Female superhero must pose oddly in backbreaking stances.
8) I must monologue the same Phrase over and over again.
9) I must go from being a Complex, yet not complicated character into a Summers family member, with a convoluted History.
10) My powers which has been telepathy for Decades, must go thru changes as much as my body does.
11) I must be brutalized in every conceivable way, and forget that I am a Ninja.
12) Even though I am a Ninja, I don't act ninja-e.
13) I must wear the EXACT same costume in a variety of environments which makes no sense whatsoever.
14) I must go from being a forthright Lady to a tramp.
15) I must die or inexplicably vanish from various roles periodically.
16) Since I am "Popular" I must be Asian (Japanese or Chinese.. since there are no other asian societies. that seemed to be deemed hot anyway.) In EVERY SINGLE ALTERNATE UNIVERSE THAT EXISTS.
17) Even though I am soooo extremely popular.. Jubilee gets her own book.
Co-Leads her own team. Has an appearance on an animated series that lasts years. Has a major Mini and I get killed( AGAIN) In my one movie role ( I don't even speak.) And I get manhandled by a Time traveler and kidnapped, during said animated series.. Of which I appear in two episodes.

18) I rock at Marvel vs Capcom.( That she does), but my breasts heave so heavily, my foes are to entranced to fight back.:biggrin: ( Compliment.)

19) theres more but It's 4 am..er 4:39 AM.

So in essence I don't hate Psylocke.. I hate the Caricature she's become. To Me the 90's made Women Superheroes as a whole, into something horrible. Yet the nasty aftertaste lingers a decade later.:tongue:

You missed one:

20) She's the "placeholder" for the token Asian character across all the X-teams even though she's not really Asian.

[jarrod]

How to fix Psylocke and make her my favourite chraacter again.

1) NO NEXILES NO.
2) Oh look, for some reason I'm english again.
3) Oh look wow, I'm not a ninja that's completely pointless.
4) Oh look wow, I'm wearing something good.
5) Oh wow, I'm in England in Captain Britain and MI:13.

HURRAY.
This.

Maybe they could go some way to splitting Betsy and Kwannon again? That way Cornell could take british, psychic Betsy for MI:13 and Carey could take empathic ninja Kwannon for Legacy.

If Claremont wants a Psylocke, he really has a whole multiverse of options to choose from... give us back our Betsy though.

[pryde15]

English body & telepathy is what I want for Betsy. Getting off of Nexiles is always a bonus though.

[Tazirai]

You missed one:

20) She's the "placeholder" for the token Asian character across all the X-teams even though she's not really Asian.

It was 4 Am ish.. hehe. :biggrin:

[CmX]

English body & telepathy is what I want for Betsy. Getting off of Nexiles is always a bonus though.

This is my biggest concern right now. :(

[jarrod]

I don't mind the teke honestly... don't even mind the asian ninja junk really, I just want her back in 616 (on Legacy, MI:13, X-Force, Uncanny, whatever).


Tessa too. :(

[Phil Hunn]

I love Psylocke and i totally hate the fact that she's (psy)locked into CC's world. :tongue: She has to be released back into the X-books (a turn in X-Force would be gold) already!

That book already turned Archangel back into a dismal caricature, and the characterisation of the other members of Stabby Force is minimal at best, considering that Kyle & Yost are falling back on their one way of advancing a plot: killing lots of stuff and splashing everybody involved with gallons of blood.

Betsy should stay away.

I dont hate her for being Asian. Having lived in Japan for 3 years and dating Japanese women. I dont hate her asianess. I hated all that came with it.

1) Every asian chick is hot
2) Every asian chick is a martial artist.
3) Every asian chick is running around being a Sex Object for americans.
4) Every Asian chick is Japanese, except when they are Chinese.
5) Every female Superhero has to kick as much ass as her male counterparts.
6) Number 5, but in the EXACT Same way.
7) Every Female superhero must pose oddly in backbreaking stances.
8) I must monologue the same Phrase over and over again.
9) I must go from being a Complex, yet not complicated character into a Summers family member, with a convoluted History.
10) My powers which has been telepathy for Decades, must go thru changes as much as my body does.
11) I must be brutalized in every conceivable way, and forget that I am a Ninja.
12) Even though I am a Ninja, I don't act ninja-e.
13) I must wear the EXACT same costume in a variety of environments which makes no sense whatsoever.
14) I must go from being a forthright Lady to a tramp.
15) I must die or inexplicably vanish from various roles periodically.
16) Since I am "Popular" I must be Asian (Japanese or Chinese.. since there are no other asian societies. that seemed to be deemed hot anyway.) In EVERY SINGLE ALTERNATE UNIVERSE THAT EXISTS.
17) Even though I am soooo extremely popular.. Jubilee gets her own book.
Co-Leads her own team. Has an appearance on an animated series that lasts years. Has a major Mini and I get killed( AGAIN) In my one movie role ( I don't even speak.) And I get manhandled by a Time traveler and kidnapped, during said animated series.. Of which I appear in two episodes.

18) I rock at Marvel vs Capcom.( That she does), but my breasts heave so heavily, my foes are to entranced to fight back.:biggrin: ( Compliment.)

19) theres more but It's 4 am..er 4:39 AM.

So in essence I don't hate Psylocke.. I hate the Caricature she's become. To Me the 90's made Women Superheroes as a whole, into something horrible. Yet the nasty aftertaste lingers a decade later.:tongue:

LOL. It's not funny because it's true.

English body & telepathy is what I want for Betsy. Getting off of Nexiles is always a bonus though.

Word to that.

[Anon_me]

I don't get the hatred towards the Asian-Telepathic-Ninja Psylocke, especially coming from Psylocke fans themselves.

I love both of them. And I think they both have their own virtue. I understand that 90s (aka Asian/Ninja) was often used as sex object.
But power-wise, aside of becoming more active fighter, she used them the same way as British Betsy: telepathic communication/butterfly effect, Illusion, etc. The other notable difference was the psychic bolt (non ninja) vs the psychic knife (ninja).
I personally loved the psychic knife and I think it's one of her 'iconic' moves.

Any other reason for disliking the Asian-Telephatic-Ninja Psylocke?

I don't hate her as an Asian telepathic ninja. I just think that it's really too bad that she became a very one-dimensional "look at me and my knockers before I use the sum totality of my telepathy" ninja (who incidentally got defeated more often than not when it came to physical combat) when she was a much stronger and creative character before the change.

And I really dislike her telekinesis; I wish she was telepathic again.

[heretic]

If Psylocke and Elektra were to go toe 2 toe without powers, who would win?This is what we call on CBR a... no, I will be fair, Betsy is good enough to put up a fight but she is not wuite in Elektra'a class in terms of pure skill.

Psylocke as an asian ninja was the best thing that ever happened to her. Though i loved the telepathy, that psychic knife is enough to satisfy my betsy needs.

Hot Asian psylocke with Psy-Knife gets my vote !!!Actually, it started off very interesting as the prim veneer Betsy acknowledged and had a great deal of didain for was stripped away by the Hand and Spiral. Her coming to terms with that would have been a great story.

Then Chris left and they ran Psylocke (alongside several other, mainly female, characters) into the ground for romance/cheesecake.

HTG (Greatly preferred Warren/Charlotte)

[heretic]

oh no. You like the Kitty & Colossus relationship? :frown:

I apparently, am one of the few who doesn't of the Kitty Litter. And I was going to ask you if you were a fan of Jim Lee lol. But since this is a Psylocke Thread.

You are not alone. I always felt they (like Hank and Janet over on the Avengers) worked better as friendly exes, mainly because the distaff part grew up after the breakup in both cases (although Shadowcat did not tend to regress like the Wasp was prone to when the old pair was ressurected).

I think both the English-Telepathic and Asian-Ninja-Telephatic Betsy are great.Whereas I get annoyed when writers forget that the latter is indeed the outgrowth of the former. And yes I too would like to see the telekinesis developed.

HTG

[heretic]

She held her own against Sabretooth without any combat training. Now you can't tell that isn't impressive.It is telling and sad that when the BadassNinja version of the character faces off agaisnt Sabretooth she was casually gutted. Said a great deal about the X-Books of the Era.

HTG

[wonderland]

Just read the Yost interview on CBR......Psylocke joining x-force, he didnt rule it out :biggrin: fingers crossed.

Plus the lack of Betsy in the Exile solicits for september??????

[Tazirai]

Just read the Yost interview on CBR......Psylocke joining x-force, he didnt rule it out :biggrin: fingers crossed.

Plus the lack of Betsy in the Exile solicits for september??????

GREEAT.. another stabby in stabby force.

[psycwave]

I wouldnt mind it. Maybe she could finally put all her ninja trainig to good use. Though to be in x force I suspect she will need a real sword instead of a telekinetic one that does telepathic stuff...

[Phil Hunn]

I wouldnt mind it. Maybe she could finally put all her ninja trainig to good use.

Yeah, because that's exactly what she needs: to be reduced to being a pointless, blood-splattered engine of destruction like the rest of Claw Force.

She deserves better than to be stuck on an infantile book, doing absurdly violent things in a fashion that was old in the early 1990s.

[cgar]

Yeah, because that's exactly what she needs: to be reduced to being a pointless, blood-splattered engine of destruction like the rest of Claw Force.

She deserves better than to be stuck on an infantile book, doing absurdly violent things in a fashion that was old in the early 1990s.

better than being stuck in lame Nexiles. Where anything she does is irrelevant because its not part of 616. and no other writer will reference

[psycwave]

Yeah, because that's exactly what she needs: to be reduced to being a pointless, blood-splattered engine of destruction like the rest of Claw Force.

She deserves better than to be stuck on an infantile book, doing absurdly violent things in a fashion that was old in the early 1990s.

IMO the members of x force may all be "blood-splatteres engines of destruction" but they still have immense characterization going for them(so far). Betsy would be good there espiecially with her friendship with Wolvie and past with Warren

[CmX]

better than being stuck in lame Nexiles. Where anything she does is irrelevant because its not part of 616. and no other writer will reference

Totally agree, she's better off anywhere other than fuckin Exiles. It's such a waste of time for her character and IMO is only making her even less appealing to future writers and fans.

[Tazirai]

If claremont can get her to a stable body/power/history and back into 616 im good.

But her character needs/DEMANDS, good characterization.

[Leogam]

I think it would be great if they made her british again (with blue eyes like her twin brian & blonde hair which she continues to dye purple) except now she would retain her ninja skills & become the english warrior she always strived to be. In addition to maintaining her powers of telepathy & low level premonitions

[Phil Hunn]

better than being stuck in lame Nexiles. Where anything she does is irrelevant because its not part of 616. and no other writer will reference

That's like saying getting punched in the teeth is better than being kicked in the balls.

IMO the members of x force may all be "blood-splatteres engines of destruction" but they still have immense characterization going for them(so far).

What, like X-23 cutting herself again? I'll pass.

[booga]

i dunno, i quite like a chick slashing herself, adds some definition

[cgar]

That's like saying getting punched in the teeth is better than being kicked in the balls.



What, like X-23 cutting herself again? I'll pass.

No its not because New exiles sucks, its is far worse then X-Force. Why would you want one of your fave characters in a irrevelant book. Once she's back in 616. Mike Carey could snatch her up for all we know.X-Force isn't even bad. I can tolerate the writing and it not like the Purifiers don't deserve to get chopped up to pieces. Biased opionions.

[Tazirai]

No its not because New exiles sucks, its is far worse then X-Force. Why would you want one of your fave characters in a irrevelant book. Once she's back in 616. Mike Carey could snatch her up for all we know.X-Force isn't even bad. I can tolerate the writing and it not like the Purifiers don't deserve to get chopped up to pieces. Biased opionions.

I hate the Purifiers.. And the Way Marvel kills mutants for no other reason than to kill them. Like they have a hard on against mutants or so..
The writing and art in stabby force is great.. But after the Purifier arc. I won't stay around for it unless they go in a certain Authority style or Planetary direction.

[psycwave]

I was just on wikipedia reading Elektra's bio and it said that there was a hint(this was after Wolverine had overcome his brainwashing by the Hand) that she might be in Eastern Europe probably starting her own militia similar to the Hand. IMO I think that would be a great way for her and Psylocke to meet up and possibly do battle. Hell maybe even Psylocke will help her set up the London branch. Elektra and Lady Mandarin(or the Psylocke, whatever)...yeah I like that.

[Phil Hunn]

No its not because New exiles sucks, its is far worse then X-Force. Why would you want one of your fave characters in a irrevelant book.

That wasn't what I was saying. Getting punched in the face and being kicked in the balls are both equally unpleasant notions, yes?

So it follows that neither X-Force nor New Exiles are places I want Betsy to be right now.

[psycwave]

For those of you who question why Psylocke became asian...although we know how it unfortunately was explained later on...

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/014.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/010.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/011.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/012.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/021.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

That wasn't what I was saying. Getting punched in the face and being being kicked in the balls are both equally unpleasant notions, yes?

So it follows that neither X-Force nor New Exiles are places I want Betsy to be right now.

Well.. i certainly much prefer Betsy to be in X-Force than New Exiles. Though I kinda understand your point.. at the moment I can't find any motivation for her being in the Cyclops death squad except for having the 'deadly' skills.

What really bugged me is, at the moment Betsy has every reason for going back to 616. The X-Men was disbanded and Her homeworld are being invaded by Skrulls. The US, Britain, the Otherworld.. all places that related to her origin were currently being invaded and she's not even there. Moreover, the person she's more close to than anybody, her brother - Brian Braddock, is currently dead. She really missed it this time. BIG TIME!!

Bring her back to 616!!!!!!

[Phil Hunn]

For those of you who question why Psylocke became asian...although we know how it unfortunately was explained later on...

A very good reason to hate the Acts Of Vengeance crossovers, this...

[CmX]

Well.. i certainly much prefer Betsy to be in X-Force than New Exiles. Though I kinda understand your point.. at the moment I can't find any motivation for her being in the Cyclops death squad except for having the 'deadly' skills.

What really bugged me is, at the moment Betsy has every reason for going back to 616. The X-Men was disbanded and Her homeworld are being invaded by Skrulls. The US, Britain, the Otherworld.. all places that related to her origin were currently being invaded and she's not even there. Moreover, the person she's more close to than anybody, her brother - Brian Braddock, is currently dead. She really missed it this time. BIG TIME!!

Bring her back to 616!!!!!!

Psylocke missed out on Civil War, Messiah Complex, Secret Invasion and now the big move to San Francisco and we can all thank Claremont.

For trying to move Betsy away from all the "bad" things going on right now and by sheltering her from bigger and better things by making her fight an evil version of fuckin Sue Storm and the god damn Slaymaster. Who gives a shit.

[cgar]

what are Nick Lowes, Quesada's, and Alonso's email address. i really want to email them i have this whole thing in my head that i want to say to them. and then i want to see who responds. such a disservice to her fans.

[Tazirai]

Psylocke missed out on Civil War, Messiah Complex, Secret Invasion and now the big move to San Francisco and we can all thank Claremont.

For trying to move Betsy away from all the "bad" things going on right now and by sheltering her from bigger and better things by making her fight an evil version of fuckin Sue Storm and the god damn Slaymaster. Who gives a shit.

with ya on that..

[wonderland]

Psylocke missed out on Civil War, Messiah Complex, Secret Invasion and now the big move to San Francisco and we can all thank Claremont.

The only plus side to the fact that Psylocke has missed all these events is that when she does return they'll be alot of great stories to tell...imo she'l be one of the most powerful mutants who kept her powers, i can imagine that alot of people will want to sway her to their side..

still hoping when she does come back that it'll be with Carey and whatever Legacy becomes.It looks like Mike Carey is establishing his own little all-star xmen lineup: His already got Xavier, Gambit and Rogue.

[Phil Hunn]

what are Nick Lowes, Quesada's, and Alonso's email address. i really want to email them i have this whole thing in my head that i want to say to them. and then i want to see who responds. such a disservice to her fans.

I can only remember Joe Quesada's email off the top of my head, and it is joeydaq@aol.com (unless he has changed it after the debacle that was One More Day).

[psycwave]

Much like my beloved Psylocke this thread has been forgotten.:frown: A shame since there are so many hot button topics to touch up on(or bitch about) with UXM 500 and the move to Sanfran around the corner.

[CmX]

Much like my beloved Psylocke this thread has been forgotten.:frown: A shame since there are so many hot button topics to touch up on(or bitch about) with UXM 500 and the move to Sanfran around the corner.

I don't even like talking about what could've been since it's so pointless and only makes me more upset. I can only hope that New Exiles won't last a year longer and that she'll be sent back home soon.

Psylocke also appeared in Genext #2 if anyone cares, lol She appears alongside Emma, Cyke, Beast and some other women I couldn't identify she had chopsticks in her hair though. Whatever.

I wish Marvel would can New Exiles and just make Genext an ongoing so that way CC still had something to write and create his own little universe in that title and leave Psylocke alone. Especially since it's set in an alternate future.

[psycwave]

I don't even like talking about what could've been since it's so pointless and only makes me more upset. I can only hope that New Exiles won't last a year longer and that she'll be sent back home soon.

Psylocke also appeared in Genext #2 if anyone cares, lol She appears alongside Emma, Cyke, Beast and some other women I couldn't identify she had chopsticks in her hair though. Whatever.

I wish Marvel would can New Exiles and just make Genext an ongoing so that way CC still had something to write and create his own little universe in that title and leave Psylocke alone. Especially since it's set in an alternate future.

Qouted for truth...

[metalgorgomon]

Psylocke also appeared in Genext #2 if anyone cares, lol She appears alongside Emma, Cyke, Beast and some other women I couldn't identify she had chopsticks in her hair though. Whatever.


She did? I read the issue and thought that the lady with the chopsticks might be her.. but not that sure. It is confirmed that the woman is indeed Betsy?

I don't even like talking about what could've been since it's so pointless and only makes me more upset. I can only hope that New Exiles won't last a year longer and that she'll be sent back home soon.

I wish Marvel would can New Exiles and just make Genext an ongoing so that way CC still had something to write and create his own little universe in that title and leave Psylocke alone. Especially since it's set in an alternate future.

Well.. I don't know about canning the New Exiles. I think the book should continue cause it has a different and unique concept. The writer of the book on the other hand.... could change due to some factors (falling sales number, editorial mandate, etc.)

What left me wonder is whether the current Psylocke is so bad that even her biggest fans couldn't stand her?
My biggest problem with her is at the moment she's not in the main X-books. Regarding her character.. I think Claremont wrote her just okay. Not great nor outstanding. But yeah.. I really want to read/know/understand more about her character other than her power-set and the Slaymaster stuff. But I'm looking forward Betsy arc at the conclusion of the NEX arc and hope that the Slaymaster thingy will be concluded once and for all.

Regarding from the variant cover of UXM #500, I was quite surprise to see Betsy in it along with the other 4 ladies. Guess Marvel still consider her as one of the main X-Ladies. Let's hope that she's still important enough to be featured in the main X-books sometime in the near future.

[psycwave]

Yes I believe Betts was included because no matter where she is shipped off to she is still a very important part of the X men mythos. Plus she has been in almost all the video games. Okay I have an idea. "You tell the story" How would you as a writer retcon the Psylocke/revanche debacle. What would you change, improve upon, keep the same. I'd like to hear what everyone has to say...

[CmX]

Yes I believe Betts was included because no matter where she is shipped off to she is still a very important part of the X men mythos. Plus she has been in almost all the video games. Okay I have an idea. "You tell the story" How would you as a writer retcon the Psylocke/revanche debacle. What would you change, improve upon, keep the same. I'd like to hear what everyone has to say...

Even though I like Kwannon. ........ I'd say it was some sort of sick idea of Mojo and Spiral's and that she was just a clone or some sort of experimentation and all her backstory and everything was fake, I'm sure Carey or someone could come up with some plausible idea as to why that'd to that to begin with.

The idea that it's not Psylocke at all just her mind really irks me to no end.

And the main things that bother me about Psylocke at this moment is she's a telekinetic, she's too strong, she's seemingly interested in AoA Creed (total WTF) and she's literally exiled from the 616 universe.

And metalgorgomon: The lady with the chopsticks in her hair isn't Psylocke, the woman next to her is. Just look at her costume it's the hand outfit.

[psycwave]

Yea i don't really get the whole attraction to Sabretooth. "wow you look just like this guy who almost killed me, but your still hot!!"

[metalgorgomon]

Yes I believe Betts was included because no matter where she is shipped off to she is still a very important part of the X men mythos. Plus she has been in almost all the video games. Okay I have an idea. "You tell the story" How would you as a writer retcon the Psylocke/revanche debacle. What would you change, improve upon, keep the same. I'd like to hear what everyone has to say...

For me, the whole Kwannon thing is not that relevant anymore since she's already dead and Betsy was resurrected back from scratch by Jamie.
Personally, while I think the Kwannon story was a total mistake, I really dig how Fabian Nicieza wrote Betsy (and Kwannon).



And the main things that bother me about Psylocke at this moment is she's a telekinetic, she's too strong, she's seemingly interested in AoA Creed (total WTF) and she's literally exiled from the 616 universe.

And metalgorgomon: The lady with the chopsticks in her hair isn't Psylocke, the woman next to her is. Just look at her costume it's the hand outfit.

I totally missed her appearance in GeNext #2. I thought that woman was X-23 since she was featured in issue #1. But looking closely at the costume, yeah.. it's Betsy. And still in the Hand swimsuit costume.. in her 50s :biggrin: . Thanks for clarifying it for me, CMX.

It kinda irks me that Betsy's very strong in raw TK power. I wonder whether other writers will make use/address her level-mountain-TK, if say she's coming back to 616. I prefer her having less powerful but use it creatively to compliment her ninja skill.

Would love her to get the TP back... but I think it's a bit too much to ask at the moment not to mentioned involving yet another power-switch.

[CmX]

For me, the whole Kwannon thing is not that relevant anymore since she's already dead and Betsy was resurrected back from scratch by Jamie.
Personally, while I think the Kwannon story was a total mistake, I really dig how Fabian Nicieza wrote Betsy (and Kwannon).




I totally missed her appearance in GeNext #2. I thought that woman was X-23 since she was featured in issue #1. But looking closely at the costume, yeah.. it's Betsy. And still in the Hand swimsuit costume.. in her 50s :biggrin: . Thanks for clarifying it for me, CMX.

It kinda irks me that Betsy's very strong in raw TK power. I wonder whether other writers will make use/address her level-mountain-TK, if say she's coming back to 616. I prefer her having less powerful but use it creatively to compliment her ninja skill.

Would love her to get the TP back... but I think it's a bit too much to ask at the moment not to mentioned involving yet another power-switch.

I think that's exactly why it hasn't happened yet because they (I don't know if it's the editors or CC who doesn't want to do it) don't want yet another change to occur to Psylocke.

But if you think about it, it's not a huge change it's simply Psylocke reverting to something she once was.. not a complete and total different new power she'd be gaining. And besides CC has since she's returned made her TK stronger, made her mind locked, invisible to computers, immune to magic/spells, and immune to any sort of reality warping, so instead of all that bull why couldn't he have just resurrected her as a telepath?

[psycwave]

I completely agree or if he cant do that then at least return her to her british body. Some of my fondest memories of Betsy are the old "Outback" days. I wish she could be like that again. O and CmX and Metalgorgomon, I just want to say that we three have some kickass avatars!!!:biggrin:

[psycwave]

X-MEN CHILDREN OF THE ATOM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgcqre_pcNc

TAS Promise of Apocalypse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT0ubgjLUUU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBjrJW0aj8U&feature=related

The name of the game that has British Betsy is X-Men 2:Fall of the Mutants.

This is an old post but i had to bring it back up the first youtube link leads to a video of Psylocke V Sin Cyclops....If you look at the related videos there is a battle between she and jean that is completely unfair and must be rectified.. check it out. I love those moves those. the psi-strike she sent out as a telepathic butterfly could actually work as a telekinetic attack...

[Tazirai]

Much like my beloved Psylocke this thread has been forgotten.:frown: A shame since there are so many hot button topics to touch up on(or bitch about) with UXM 500 and the move to Sanfran around the corner.

it hasn't been forgotten It's just that with her out of Mainstream Marvel. It's hard to keep posting new Information.
Storm is ALL OVER the place in the MU. Same with Invisible woman, We just have to wait for her to re appear somewhere.

With her in 1 book, it kinda hurts.

[Nevets F]

EDITED

Thanks

[psycwave]

Edited.

Good times.

[Nevets F]

Edited

thanks

[jarrod]

Um, edited...


Anyway, I'm hoping for...

1) Betsy's not really a mutant, it was all Roma tears
2) she joins MI:13, where she obvs belongs

[Phil Hunn]

Yea i don't really get the whole attraction to Sabretooth. "wow you look just like this guy who almost killed, but your still hot!!"

Clearly, it's the sideburns. Why do you think Logan gets so many girls? :wink:

[cgar]

wait so whats going on in January?

[Phil Hunn]

wait so whats going on in January?

People are eating lots of left-over Christmas turkey? I got nothing...

[psycwave]

wait so whats going on in January?

Since steven will give no answers we must abide by the age old "wait and see"

[CmX]

Yay! January is my birthday, :)

[psycwave]

Im already giving myself an anurism trying to think of what will happen....January is so far away...:frown:

[psycwave]

Steven I want hints as to what will become of my beloved Psylocke...anything even if its just a hair change.

[metalgorgomon]

OMG.. I missed something here.. January??? It would be a quite a logical timing for Psylocke to be back to 616, since it ends the first 18 issues of New Exiles from CC.

Steven... you have to give us some hints!! :biggrin:

[Phil Hunn]

Im already giving myself an anurism trying to think of what will happen....January is so far away...:frown:

It'll be here before you know it :biggrin:

[CmX]

It'll be here before you know it :biggrin:

No kidding! I mean we're already half way through the year.. how insane is that.

[Phil Hunn]

No kidding! I mean we're already half way through the year.. how insane is that.

Life goes faster the older you get, it seems. Stupid time :frown:

In any case, I think I shall try to get myself a Psylocke sketch at San Diego next month, and will endeavour to put it online for you all to see. There's a reason to actually hope July goes fast :biggrin:

[psycwave]

here go some pics of Psylocke(can't remember the artist though)

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/RA_WolvPsylocke.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/RA_Psylocke_Elektra.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

here go some pics of Psylocke(can't remember the artist though)

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/RA_WolvPsylocke.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/RA_Psylocke_Elektra.jpg

Niiice pics. Haven't seen them before. Thanks for posting them, psycwave!!

[cgar]

i don't care. i will always love jim lee's psylocke

[img=http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/876/lad7c3fe45fa01ee5d5c789dy2.th.jpg] (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lad7c3fe45fa01ee5d5c789dy2.jpg)

[Swashbuckler]

Me too, I like my Psylocke slutty and in a thong. Esspecially when she goes to places with LOTS of snow and it looks totally ridiculous.

[psycwave]

The guy who drew the first pics was Ron Adrian here is another by him
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/RA_Psylocke2.jpg

Here is one by Scott Rosema
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/Psylocke-art.jpg

[CmX]

i don't care. i will always love jim lee's psylocke

[img=http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/876/lad7c3fe45fa01ee5d5c789dy2.th.jpg] (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lad7c3fe45fa01ee5d5c789dy2.jpg)

Me too! I'll always love Jim Lee's rendition of all the X-Men!

That's a fuckin badass sketch! Jim Lee still draws a badass Psylocke! Too bad he'll never draw the X-Men again. :(

[CmX]

The guy who drew the first pics was Ron Adrian here is another by him
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/RA_Psylocke2.jpg

Here is one by Scott Rosema
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/Psylocke-art.jpg

who is Ron Adrian? His style looks kinda familiar. And do you think he's a fan of Psylocke? Or are those just commissions ?

The second one is a lot like Ron Frenz (Spider-Girl) style.

Nice! Where'd you guys find these at?

[psycwave]

who is Ron Adrian? His style looks kinda familiar. And do you think he's a fan of Psylocke? Or are those just commissions ?

The second one is a lot like Ron Frenz (Spider-Girl) style.

Nice! Where'd you guys find these at?

I actually don't know who ron adrian is but his style does look familiar. I got the pics when i stumbled across this site:

http://www.comiconart.com/RonAdrian.html

[Tazirai]

Think we know which version of her I like..

Paul Bryan
http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_21718/subcat_38114/Psylocke.jpg

Another by Parke

http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_6939/subcat_37758/Psylocke%20-%20Pink%20-%20Parke.jpg

[Phil Hunn]

Me too, I like my Psylocke slutty and in a thong. Esspecially when she goes to places with LOTS of snow and it looks totally ridiculous.

"Let's see... we're going to Siberia for this mission. Shall I wear some trousers and some underpants?

Nah, I'll just wear this tiny jacket and I'll be totally protected!"

Silly Betsy :frown:

[CmX]

I loved the pink outfit that British Betsy first wore, I don't care if it was prissy or too pink, I loved that shit.

[metalgorgomon]

Although not a complete collection, I think I have quite a number of Psylocke's related X-books and read some of her Cap Brit appearances.

That lead to my question.. Has she ever been depowered before?
What do you think if she's depowered? Do you think she could be more interesting being depowered?. Storm was awesome when she's depowered, Rictor is doin' very good now eventhough he's depowered.

IMO, by being depowered we might see more of her personality/character. And I think it can be used to 'retcon' her being a 'mutant'. Moreover at anytime afterwards (hopefully not soon) any writer can repower her using connection with the otherworld.

What do you guys think?

[jarrod]

After the Psi-War she had to close down her telepathy to trap the Shadow King... but she still had the dumb CD shadow porting, so she wasn't totally powerless I guess.

the way Betts like to punch things, I dunno if powers would make all that much difference. Not like she's really used her psi to the best of it's abilities for the past two decades anyway. :/

[metalgorgomon]

the way Betts like to punch things, I dunno if powers would make all that much difference. Not like she's really used her psi to the best of it's abilities for the past two decades anyway. :/

That's what i think too. Psylocke, at least in her Asian/Ninja, she didn't use much of her psy ability. She rely too much on her martial art skills.

I like the concept of Psylocke is kinda a warrior with a flaw. During her British days, she craved to be that warrior but do not have much physical skills to back it. So she make use of her psy ability (and her armor) to be able to fight.

Psylocke in her current incarnation, is very much like the 'Ultimate Weapon'. Skillful in martial artist and having powerful (if not super) TK should make her one of the most powerful mutants left. But that's the theory... the fact that she was beaten so many times just kinda neglect the concept of the 'ultimate weapon'.
I don't know what long term plans CC has for her. Will she going to be that Ultimate Warrior she's always wanted?


Guess, the reason i rise the 'depowered subject' cause I want to see what she would do in her casual days and maybe other superheroes role than X-Men. What kind of job will she have? Will she back at modelling? Working as Fashion Editor maybe? Or maybe working as (British) government agent? Be a part of the initative?

[jarrod]

Guess, the reason i rise the 'depowered subject' cause I want to see what she would do in her casual days and maybe other superheroes role than X-Men. What kind of job will she have? Will she back at modelling? Working as Fashion Editor maybe? Or maybe working as (British) government agent? Be a part of the initative?
MI:13, naturally. :cool:

[Phil Hunn]

I don't know what long term plans CC has for her. Will she going to be that Ultimate Warrior she's always wanted?

One hopes she won't end up as insane as the real Ultimate Warrior :wink:

[psycwave]

My main hope for Psylocke other than to be returned to 616 is to actually win a fight. you can't be all ultimate warrior if you're always getting the ultimate beatdown...

[Phil Hunn]

My main hope for Psylocke other than to be returned to 616 is to actually win a fight. you can't be all ultimate warrior if you're always getting the ultimate beatdown...

But that's just ridiculous! You can't expect a woman with turbo-ninja skills to actually win a fight!

... oh, how I long for the days when she could lay a decent beatdown on Omega Red :frown:

[jarrod]

Betsy only likes to wins fights if she can potentially embarrass Rachel. Otherwise she throws them.

[psycwave]

Another scan of Betts and Elektra. These two should team up and start their own European branch of the Hand.....
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ELEKTRA_AND_PSYLOCKE__V_2_by_joseph.jpg

[DDM]

Another scan of Betts and Elektra. These two should team up and start their own European branch of the Hand.....
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ELEKTRA_AND_PSYLOCKE__V_2_by_joseph.jpg

Why is Elektra stabbing Betsy's boob? The poses just are off since they appear to be two different pictures fused together, although they are not. Psylocke's psychic knife also is strange given she is manifesting it under Elektra's crotch.

[Nevets F]

There is nothing at all wrong with that picture.

[Leirus]

There is nothing at all wrong with that picture.

Umm... technically not, it is well drawn, but I honestly think it is a bit over-sexualized...

That is why I prefered british betsy over ninja betsy... a lot of writers just see the "hot ninja chick" instead of the character I love :frown:

[metalgorgomon]

Regardless the over-sexualized picture, i like it a lot. Espesially Betsy. She was drawn very pretty. Thanks for posting them, psycwave.

And I think I'm one of the few who already miss the hand-ninja outfit......(not that the current one is bad though)

[CmX]

Why is Elektra stabbing Betsy's boob? The poses just are off since they appear to be two different pictures fused together, although they are not. Psylocke's psychic knife also is strange given she is manifesting it under Elektra's crotch.

Um you need a girlfriend.

[Slung]

Um you need a girlfriend.

Unless said girlfriend has rippling pecs, biceps the size of a watermelon and a bulging leather thong, I don't think DDM is all that interested.

Just saying.

[Nevets F]

Unless said girlfriend has rippling pecs, biceps the size of a watermelon and a bulging leather thong, I don't think DDM is all that interested.

Just saying.

LOL...very nice indeed.

[themightyjbowski]

Why is Elektra stabbing Betsy's boob? The poses just are off since they appear to be two different pictures fused together, although they are not. Psylocke's psychic knife also is strange given she is manifesting it under Elektra's crotch.
LMFAO! And here I thought I was preverted...course, I actually "DO"
need a girlfriend! lol I'm suprised that no one went the whole "Lesbian"
route on that one! lol I do agree, they oversex the asian Psylocke.
But there is something about a hot asian chick with a british accent... :p

[DDM]

Um you need a girlfriend.

Another scan of Betts and Elektra. These two should team up and start their own European branch of the Hand.....
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ELEKTRA_AND_PSYLOCKE__V_2_by_joseph.jpg


Why is Elektra stabbing Betsy's breast? Why is Psylocke manifesting her psychic knife right at Elektra's crotch? They are also grabbing the same bow in the same pose. The whole pose is off. I think this artist needs a girlfriend given his highly sexualized pose of these two characters.

Technically, nothing is wrong with the picture; however, the poses are completely weird in a very strange, disturbed notion.

[Swashbuckler]

Elektra and Psylocke need a third woman to complete their group. I nominate Opal Tanaka who will have cyborg implants thanks to her cousin. She would dominate. I will post scans later of her in her geisha garb with the cyborgs.

[psycwave]

Elektra and Psylocke need a third woman to complete their group. I nominate Opal Tanaka who will have cyborg implants thanks to her cousin. She would dominate. I will post scans later of her in her geisha garb with the cyborgs.

Yes Psylocke, Opal, And Elektra. These three Femme Fatales star in their own tales of adventure, deception, and HUGE PANTS!!!!!!! With the talents of Carey and Mike Choi......

[psycwave]

A few quick scans of Betsy and Rogue(being operated by Carol Danvers) during the Outback days.....see Betts reaction to the costume.....
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/073.jpg


http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/075.jpg


http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/076.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

^^^ I remember that issue.
Haven't realised that Betsy's hair was so curly back then..
It's quite ironic that Betsy'll wear something similar to the Miss Marvel suit, after the transformation.

[CmX]

Cool beans! I didn't know Betsy ever interacted with Carol. I love Ms. Marvel. :)

[metalgorgomon]

Cool beans! I didn't know Betsy ever interacted with Carol. I love Ms. Marvel. :)

I kinda confused back then :confused: Whether it's Carol's soul or just her psyche in Rouge's body

[CmX]

I kinda confused back then :confused: Whether it's Carol's soul or just her psyche in Rouge's body

I think she was possessing Rogue wasn't she? So it was Carol in Rogue's body for a moment? I'm not sure...

[DDM]

I kinda confused back then :confused: Whether it's Carol's soul or just her psyche in Rouge's body

Carol's personality "lived" within Rogue mind since Avengers Annual #10. However, usually Rogue's mind kept the Ms. Marvel psyche locked up deep within her subconscious mind & would only come out when she heard something from Carol's past such as Michael Rossi (Uncanny X-Men #182) or Rogue could no longer handle being dominant (Uncanny X-Men #235-238).

However, Carol Danvers herself existed as Binary. Rogue just possessed everything Carol was up to Avengers Annual #10. In other words, Carol Danvers existed in two places: Binary & a second personality within Rogue's mind. The real Carol did not die in Uncanny X-Men #269 though. This was the Carol Danvers-Ms. Marvel psyche given a body by the Siege Perilous. The real Carol Danvers was still in deep space as Binary.

[CmX]

Carol's personality "lived" within Rogue mind since Avengers Annual #10. However, usually Rogue's mind kept the Ms. Marvel psyche locked up deep within her subconscious mind & would only come out when she heard something from Carol's past such as Michael Rossi (Uncanny X-Men #182) or Rogue could no longer handle being dominant (Uncanny X-Men #235-238).

However, Carol Danvers herself existed as Binary. Rogue just possessed everything Carol was up to Avengers Annual #10. In other words, Carol Danvers existed in two places: Binary & a second personality within Rogue's mind. The real Carol did not die in Uncanny X-Men #269 though. This was the Carol Danvers-Ms. Marvel psyche given a body by the Siege Perilous. The real Carol Danvers was still in deep space as Binary.

Oh okay!

*takes a nap*

[cgar]

So what do you guys think about Warren Ellis writing Psylocke? I would be happy if she got on a book with that much spotlight on it. Plus i like the interactions his done. Mike Carey or Warren Ellis. Oh man im sad she's not in 616

[Phil Hunn]

^^^ I remember that issue.
Haven't realised that Betsy's hair was so curly back then..
It's quite ironic that Betsy'll wear something similar to the Miss Marvel suit, after the transformation.

Yeah, it's sad that she thought the Ms Marvel suit was so awful, yet she got stuck in something even worse for an entire decade...

[jarrod]

So what do you guys think about Warren Ellis writing Psylocke? I would be happy if she got on a book with that much spotlight on it. Plus i like the interactions his done. Mike Carey or Warren Ellis. Oh man im sad she's not in 616
Ellis would do an AMAZING Psylocke. Loved her in DOFTense. <3 <3

Personally though, if she heads back to 616 I really, really, really want Cornell to have her. Ditto for Meggan.

[Nevets F]

I think Cornell would do amazing...

I also think she would be great in X-Force. ;)

[metalgorgomon]

I think Cornell would do amazing...


I also think Cornell would do great with Betsy. As long as he doesn't kill her like he did with the other Braddock...

[metalgorgomon]

Cameo by alt-British Psylocke in New Exiles #8 preview:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/New%20Exiles%20Pictures/NEX8pg3-1.jpg

She's looking fiercee

Is one of her alt wearing Marvel Girl suit (the red one with mask)?

[Saturius]

Cameo by alt-British Psylocke in New Exiles #8 preview:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/New%20Exiles%20Pictures/NEX8pg3-1.jpg

She's looking fiercee

Is one of her alt wearing Marvel Girl suit (the red one with mask)?

OHHHHHH!!!! Psylocke, how I miss your telepathy and your butterfly aura. How ironic is it that a butterfly made Betsy so fierce! It's madness I tell you! Delicious madness! :biggrin:

[metalgorgomon]

OHHHHHH!!!! Psylocke, how I miss your telepathy and your butterfly aura. How ironic is it that a butterfly made Betsy so fierce! It's madness I tell you! Delicious madness! :biggrin:

I missed the butterfly aura so much! Hopefully Betsy'll gain the butterfly aura back instead of the CD mark..

[psycwave]

Cameo by alt-British Psylocke in New Exiles #8 preview:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/New%20Exiles%20Pictures/NEX8pg3-1.jpg

She's looking fiercee

Is one of her alt wearing Marvel Girl suit (the red one with mask)?

OMFG!!!!!! My beautiful British Betsy!!!!*sobs* Wait is that supposed to a variation of Betsy as Marvel Girl in the background....

[CmX]

OMFG!!!!!! My beautiful British Betsy!!!!*sobs* Wait is that supposed to a variation of Betsy as Marvel Girl in the background....

I think so lol that's pretty cool.

There's even an alien Betsy!! Coolness.

I hope to God she somehow keeps Lady Mandarin's telepathy.. so it IS the real Psylocke that is on that gorgeous cover in August? I thought for a second that it was the Lady Mandarin that was killed.. nice

[metalgorgomon]

^^^ LOL.. We have the same avatar, Cmx. She rocked in that pic!

Yours is better, IMO..
And I agree.. hopefully she'll keep the TP from Mandarin. She even use the Psy-knife instead of the Psy-sword in those previews.

[psycwave]

^^^ LOL.. We have the same avatar, Cmx. She rocked in that pic!

Yours is better, IMO..
And I agree.. hopefully she'll keep the TP from Mandarin. She even use the Psy-knife instead of the Psy-sword in those previews.

I was going to make it my avatar but then i saw you two already had it. But if she does keep the telepathy it would be so badass. She might even keep her tk. I hope that she doesn't get the crimson dawn abilities back though

[Phil Hunn]

Is one of her alt wearing Marvel Girl suit (the red one with mask)?

You might be right. Certainly looks like a Marvel Girl outfit...

[CmX]

^^^ LOL.. We have the same avatar, Cmx. She rocked in that pic!

Yours is better, IMO..
And I agree.. hopefully she'll keep the TP from Mandarin. She even use the Psy-knife instead of the Psy-sword in those previews.

Well it's not the first time Psylocke has shown/used a psychic knife before as a teke. She used it during Xtreme XMen, and has been on tons of covers with it.. so it doesn't mean anything at this point. (She even tried to use it against Black Panther in New Exiles #4)

But yeah.. It seems like that's where this is going at least I think/hope it is! Especially since she gained the Crimson Dawn (although that's most likely temporary).. I hope she gains her TP as well.

[metalgorgomon]

Well it's not the first time Psylocke has shown/used a psychic knife before as a teke. She used it during Xtreme XMen, and has been on tons of covers with it.. so it doesn't mean anything at this point. (She even tried to use it against Black Panther in New Exiles #4)

But yeah.. It seems like that's where this is going at least I think/hope it is! Especially since she gained the Crimson Dawn (although that's most likely temporary).. I hope she gains her TP as well.

Yup.. you're right. Well.. maybe I just much prefer the psychic-knife than the psychic-sword :biggrin: Just give her a real sword, please. And of course use the psychic knife and butterfly aura again.

As much as i want the telepathy to come back, I don't think she'll get it anytime soon. But i really hope that in this arc, Betsy will improve the way she use her psy-skills, especially to complement her martial arts (which apparently she love to use so much).
And of course.. going back to 616!!

[CmX]

Just give her a real sword, please. And of course use the psychic knife and butterfly aura again.

As much as i want the telepathy to come back, I don't think she'll get it anytime soon. But i really hope that in this arc, Betsy will improve the way she use her psy-skills, especially to complement her martial arts. And of course.. going back to 616!!

One of these things will be happening soon enough thankfully.

[wonderland]

I'd be happy with any 'powered variant' of Betsy back in the 616....:smile:

[Phil Hunn]

I'd be happy with any 'powered variant' of Betsy back in the 616....:smile:

I agree. She's become less than an irrelevance while stuck in New Exiles.

It'd be good to get her reactions to the SHRA, Tony Stark: Agent Of SHIELD, and the new police-state Marvel Universe, for a start...

... and maybe her presence could help fix Archangel after his reversion to Metal-Wings hell.

[CmX]

I agree. She's become less than an irrelevance while stuck in New Exiles.

It'd be good to get her reactions to the SHRA, Tony Stark: Agent Of SHIELD, and the new police-state Marvel Universe, for a start...

... and maybe her presence could help fix Archangel after his reversion to Metal-Wings hell.

I really want to see Psylocke interact with Warren again, it's so dumb how they never even did when she returned. I know their relationship is over but they had a huge history and it seems as though it never occurred.

Yeah Psylocke has missed out a so many events in the small time she's been with the Exiles it's so sad. :( Oh well who knows what else she's going to miss out on while she's over in New Exiles.

[psycwave]

More of the good ole days with Betts and Brian from Excalibur(vol.1) issue 55
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/183.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/184.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/185.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/186.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

^^^ Can't believe i missed reading that issue. Very good training session with Brian. Can't help smiling with the way Brian (almost) beat Betsy. Very clever.. and very Brian :smile:

[CmX]

I've always loved how Davis drew Psylocke.

Hey have you guys seen that new Psylocke figurine by Hasbro? It's a miniature toy it's two pack included with Wolverine it's called Super Hero Squad? (Google it)

Well I ordered it and got it today! It's really cute, I thought it was much bigger but it's only about 2 1/2 inches, it's really cute though. It's Betsy in her hand outfit and she has her psychic knife and Wolverine is in his classic yellow/blue outfit. It was only $4.99. Just thought I'd mention it, they also have tons of other characters.(So far from the other X-Ladies they have Jean, Storm, Rogue with Psylocke being the latest) I think they have a Ms. Marvel coming out soon not sure who she's paired up with though.

[metalgorgomon]

Aww.. those figurines are cute!!!

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-40479410507135_2008_43118164

[CmX]

Aww.. those figurines are cute!!!

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-40479410507135_2008_43118164

Yeah they are really cute and I love mine! It's sitting on my computer desk, you guys should try to get one also!

I wish they'd make a disco Dazzler one that'd be really cute.

[metalgorgomon]

Disco Dazzler would be cool..
Wait.. they also have Emma figurine in this one :smile: :

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-40479410507135_2006_8659443

[CmX]

Yeah I forgot to mention her as well! I really want that figure, but not Magneto, another Wolverine and Colossus. =/

[psycwave]

Aww.. those figurines are cute!!!

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-40479410507135_2008_43118164

Awwww.

Disco Dazzler would be cool..
Wait.. they also have Emma figurine in this one :smile: :

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-40479410507135_2006_8659443

HA!! Emma is a hooker even in baby toy form

[Phil Hunn]

Aww.. those figurines are cute!!!

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-40479410507135_2008_43118164

Superhero Squad figures are awesome, and really addictive. They're so cheap that you can amass a huge collection of them in a very short space of time.

Disco Dazzler would be cool..
Wait.. they also have Emma figurine in this one :smile: :

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-40479410507135_2006_8659443

Yeah, I've got that one, too. I haven't put Wolverine and Colossus into their "fastball special" pose that they can do, though...

[psycwave]

Brian and Betsy reunion
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/brian004.jpg

Wolverine Can be such a jerk sometimes.....
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/049.jpg

[CmX]

So was that bitchy cashier! Rudeness!

[psycwave]

So was that bitchy cashier! Rudeness!

True. Betsy should have slapped her two times tuesday....

[Tazirai]

My main hope for Psylocke other than to be returned to 616 is to actually win a fight. you can't be all ultimate warrior if you're always getting the ultimate beatdown...

lol


Betsy only likes to wins fights if she can potentially embarrass Rachel. Otherwise she throws them.

Man you guys are killing me. But unfortunately it DOES seem that she loses on purpose. The thing that kills me is . She loses fights to nobodies, then she takes on a "BOSS" and wins. Even Xavier had issues with the ShadowKing. Betsy pretty much owned him.

[Tazirai]

LMFAO! I do agree, they oversex the asian Psylocke.
But there is something about a hot asian chick with a british accent... :p

ALOT.!! Considering that I lived in japan for 3 years, and dated JP women. It does amaze one's sense when they speak a foreign tongue.

I still miss my Butterfly lady.

[Anon_me]

My main hope for Psylocke other than to be returned to 616 is to actually win a fight. you can't be all ultimate warrior if you're always getting the ultimate beatdown...

Indeed, it's a poor showing when being this really good ninja is an integral part of your character and you can't even sneak up on Fabian Cortez or actually beat anyone who isn't cannon fodder at hand-to-hand.

[Tazirai]

Cameo by alt-British Psylocke in New Exiles #8 preview:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/New%20Exiles%20Pictures/NEX8pg3-1.jpg

She's looking fiercee

Is one of her alt wearing Marvel Girl suit (the red one with mask)?

YES!!!!!!!!! Love that pic.. Heres hoping an Aussie armor shot appears.

[psycwave]

Psylocke and Shadow King
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/156.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/158.jpg

[psycwave]

Would psylocke fans like to see her in a costume similar to THE END costume or something new. What type if ideas for a new costume would you want. Frilly and Pink, Armor all, nijafication, a combo of the three, or something totally new?
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/141157-139928-psylocke_super.jpg http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/aj-1.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ai-2.jpg http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ak.jpg

[psycwave]

Some more costume references....
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ah-2.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ad-3.jpg http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ae-2.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/76401-134231-psylocke_super.gif

[metalgorgomon]

Would psylocke fans like to see her in a costume similar to THE END costume or something new. What type if ideas for a new costume would you want. Frilly and Pink, Armor all, nijafication, a combo of the three, or something totally new?
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/141157-139928-psylocke_super.jpg

The THE END costume was not bad at all. My favorite is the Dragon Lady (HOM) followed by the Armors (both Aussie armor and British armor)..

[Tazirai]

The THE END costume was not bad at all. My favorite is the Dragon Lady (HOM) followed by the Armors (both Aussie armor and British armor)..


A mixture of the Armors lady Mandarin and Aussie styles.
NOT a katana for her weapon. Take her back to roots. Give her a Longsword.

[wonderland]

The HOM costume is my favourite but i wouldn't mind the psionic armor for special occasions...

[Flameworthy]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ak.jpg

I've always loved this pic! If Betsy ever returns to her British body (which I highly doubt), I would love to see her in something similar to this. That fact that its a mix of her pink costume, her armor, and her hand outfit makes it awesome.

[CmX]

I really love that costume too it's gorgeous! It's very feminine and that's how I like Betsy depicted.

But honestly I like what she's in right now the one by Grummett it's a fresh look that she's been needing for years and my second fave look for her was the HoM outfit even though it only lasted about four issues.

[Anon_me]

I like the revolution(?) one; the one with the red hankerchief.

[Shade101]

I like that picture too. And the color is nice. Burgundy looks pretty good on Psylocke. I'm not to sure about the pink parts though, but I could see them working.

[CmX]

I like the revolution(?) one; the one with the red hankerchief.

That's the costume I've always hated the most. She looked like some sort of lesbionic pirate. It was so horrible IMO good thing it only lasted like six issues or whatever and the short hair looked really bad on Betsy too.

Flameworthy I LOVE your avatar! Nice!

[Nevets F]

lol...My fav Psylockeoutfit is the Armor...with the Revolution as my second fav. Alas, it seems most Psylocke fans did not care for it.

[Leirus]

I've always loved this pic! If Betsy ever returns to her British body (which I highly doubt), I would love to see her in something similar to this. That fact that its a mix of her pink costume, her armor, and her hand outfit makes it awesome.

OOOhhh this pic is awesome !!!

I have ever wondered what would have happened if Betsy had had an "iconic" enough look before the asian version, so someone could think about to re-british her. But it seems even the armor (which I loved, BTW) had nothing to do against the ninja vibe...

I would like her back in her original body, and with a cool outfit like that one

One doubt, thought, why Revanche? I though Revanche was Kwannon?

Mmm... That pic is of Kwannon in Betsy´s original body?

[Tazirai]

I have ever wondered what would have happened if Betsy had had an "iconic" enough look before the asian version, so someone could think about to re-british her. But it seems even the armor (which I loved, BTW) had nothing to do against the ninja vibe...

I think the Armor was her Iconic look before the Asianification of her. MANY people on various forums remembers her in that Armor. So I tend to think it's just as important and iconic as her Hand outfit.

[CmX]

OOOhhh this pic is awesome !!!

I have ever wondered what would have happened if Betsy had had an "iconic" enough look before the asian version, so someone could think about to re-british her. But it seems even the armor (which I loved, BTW) had nothing to do against the ninja vibe...

I would like her back in her original body, and with a cool outfit like that one

One doubt, thought, why Revanche? I though Revanche was Kwannon?

Mmm... That pic is of Kwannon in Betsy´s original body?

Yeah he redesigned a look for Kwannon, but that outfit is so much more suited for Psylocke IMO.

I loved Kwannon cause she always wore full body suits it made her look pretty deadly.

[Flameworthy]

Flameworthy I LOVE your avatar! Nice!

Thanks! Glad you like.:biggrin:

Yeah he redesigned a look for Kwannon, but that outfit is so much more suited for Psylocke IMO.

I loved Kwannon cause she always wore full body suits it made her look pretty deadly.

I agree. Honestly, I never thought of Kwannon as the type girl to go around wearing bright pink and purple. I think the only reason she chose that color scheme was because she had thought of herself as Betsy at the time. I could see her wearing something more along the lines of black and dark purple though.

Double agree about the body suits!

[CmX]

Thanks! Glad you like.:biggrin:



I agree. Honestly, I never thought of Kwannon as the type girl to go around wearing bright pink and purple. I think the only reason she chose that color scheme was because she had thought of herself as Betsy at the time. I could see her wearing something more along the lines of black and dark purple though.

Double agree about the body suits!

I think Psylocke should join Captain Britain's team or the Uncanny team and if Kwannon were ressurected and cleaned up a bit she should join X-Force that'd be so sweet!

But I highly doubt either of those will be happening.

[.LuckyStar.]

is it me or did they change Betsy's hair colour for good? I mean, as of late it is either dark blue or black.. kinda sucks because I like it very purple :frown:

[Anon_me]

is it me or did they change Betsy's hair colour for good? I mean, as of late it is either dark blue or black.. kinda sucks because I like it very purple :frown:

No time for a dye job while dimension hopping, I guess.

[metalgorgomon]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ak.jpg

I've seen this picture before but did not really pay that much attention.
Now.. I just think this outfit rocked!!! It's really gorgeous and have many elements of her previous costumes; the pink outfit, the armor, the Hand and even the current New Exiles costume.

The color scheme is a bit too feminine though, Maybe a little color change might actually work for asian/ninja Betsy. I really think she'll look good in this costume.

[metalgorgomon]

I found these two pics quite similar :biggrin:

courtesy of our own Anon_me
Bring back the psionically ionized atmospheric butterfly effect

http://www.sionglewis.com/postings/Psylocke_05.jpg

and the lovely drawing by Grummet

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/New%20Exiles%20Pictures/NewExiles7-FlyEarth.jpg

Well.. not really similar but she kinda flew outta space in both pictures.

Wonder whether she literally flew out of space (the New Exiles one) or the artist just made a point that she flew very fast...